November 16, 2023 • 31 mins
Former Vice President Mike Pence joins us with his daughter, Charlotte Pence Bond to discuss their new book Go Home for Dinner, Advice on How Faith Makes a Family and Family Makes a Life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Thanks Scott Chennon and Hour two Sean Hannity's Show.
Thanks for being with us. Right down our toll free number.
It's eight hundred and nine foot one, Seawan if you
want to be a part of the program. We are
in beautiful Nashville, Tennessee, music City for tonight's Fox Nation
Awards and the Patriot Awards. Some of the people that
they honor are just unbelievable, just really pleased and proud
(00:21):
to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And it's just such a different place.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You like you've ended entered America circa nineteen fifty Again,
We're kind of as normal. I guess I'm so used
to the insanity that is New York and all these
big cities unfortunately that I've been stuck in. It's nice
to see people say, out of nowhere, how are you doing,
Nice to talk to you, have a good day. I mean,
(00:47):
it's kind of crazy, but anyway, we welcome back to
the program. Former Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter.
By the way, Charlotte Penn's Bonda is with us. They
have a new book out together. It's Go Home for Dinner.
Advice on how faith makes a family a family.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hang on.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Go Home for Dinner, advice on how faith makes a
family and a family makes a life.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's, you know, terrific.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's on Amazon dot Comhannity dot com, and bookstores all
around the country, mister Vice President, and Charlotte Penn's bond.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Are you.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Just great? Sean? Thanks for having us on today.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know you you come from Indiana, so I think,
and you've traveled the country, and you've traveled the world.
I've had you in studio in New York. I mean,
what is it like for a guy from Indiana to
end up in New York, San Francisco, Chicago and some
of the worst parts of the country and then go
back home to Indiana. You know, it's like going back
(01:50):
down home where people are just a lot different.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's it's amazing, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, it's one of the great things about you know,
I had hope for a better outcome in my campaign
for president, but I don't regret a minute of it
because traveling all across this country, just like you're experiencing
today in Nashville before the patrioty Wards is you know,
this is a country of good, decent, hard working, idealistic,
(02:16):
generous and kind people, and you know, all the travels
that have taken us around the country. My daughter lives
on the West Coast where she and her husband are
stationed in the military. But it's always great to be
back home to the heartland, and it's fun to hear
you get a breath of that today in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well you may not know this, but if you go
down sixty five out of Nashville south into Alabama, there
is an exit.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It has a cracker barrel, which I fell in love
with when I was in the South.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You know, I spent a lot of years, you know,
travel around the world as in my radio career, and anyway,
I arrived in Athens, Alabama, my first professional radio gig
in nineteen nine. Now the town all of a sudden,
here's a guy with a thick New York accident.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Welcome to talk radio, the Sean Hannity Show, and people Sean,
how you doing, man, Welcome to Huntsville because it's right
next to Huntsholds, the Huntsville market, And I'm like, how
you doing. Good to talk to you, you man, You
talk funny, they'd say, but it made it kind of
made me notorious in a way. And you know when
I left two years later to spend four great years
(03:27):
in Atlanta, they they did editorialize goodbye to the talk
show host from Hell. I actually had a framed I
was so proud of that. I guess I've made I
guess I had an impact on the market. Right, I'm
still here, I'm still doing it.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
We're proud and grateful for your career. And you know,
I spent some of those early years for you. I
was I was working in small town Indiana talk radio.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But by the way, you did a great job on
talk radio, got a very successful run at it. I
know people knew you as a congressman, as governor, as
vice president for four years. I mean, what a journey
you've been on. And well, let me ask you. I
know because I also talked to Tim Scott this week.
I spoke to you privately this week. I won't divulge
(04:16):
to the nature of the conversation, but we've known each
other so many years, and you know, as vice president,
I'll never forget. I was having a pretty tough time
and it was in the public and you picked up
a phone. You're the vice president of our country, and
you just called to say, hey, I'm praying for you,
thinking about you. I could ever do anything let me know.
(04:37):
And I'm like, why would the vice president ever think
of calling me? And it meant a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, you're very kind, Sean, but I'm sure that there
are millions of people around the country if they had
your number, they'd have called you to and in lots
of different circumstances. We're just a family that appreciates you,
appreciates who you are. I appreciate your voice. But I
will tell you, you know, as I said, you know, we
we came to the conclusion, as my friend Tim Scott
(05:05):
did a couple of days ago, that this was not
my time but to get out across this country to
spend time with the American people. It really did renew
my faith in the people of this country and in
my determination. Whatever the future holds for me and my family,
(05:26):
we're going to continue to fight for all the same
conservative values that have defined your career and have defined
our years of service.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know, it's an amazing thing. You're right about one thing.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's you know, when we talk about making America great
and making America great again, and the four years the
great I thought it was a great partnership with you
and President Trump. It's kind of sad to me that
it didn't end well because everything else did pretty much
go well, certainly dealing with COVID the last two years
(05:59):
or view administration. You know, we've never faced the pandemic
like that in one hundred years. Made things very complicated,
very expensive, very difficult, very controversial. But at the end
of the day, those policies, those conservative policies that we
hold near and dear when they are implemented. You did
it as a congressman, you did it as a governor,
(06:20):
you did it as vice president, and the country and
the people were better off. You know, we now have
sixty percent plus of American citizens live in paycheck to paycheck.
We have people getting bare necessities and having to put
things on their credit card. You know, at twenty one
percent interest rates, we're now paying nearly double what we
paid for a gallon of gasoline. When you were vice president,
(06:44):
our borders were secure. They're wide open. Eight million people
came into this country, and I'm sure among them are
people that have nefarious intentions for the American people.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
They have.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
There's been no vetting, no background checks, there's no stay
in Mexico policy, there's no building of any wall, and
it's just sad to me that we've gone backwards. Never mind,
you know, the Joe Biden I believe, abdicating our role
on the world stage as the leading country for the
force of freedom.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, look, you're you know, I'm incredibly proud of the
record of the Trump Fence administration. And I'll say that
for the rest of my life. And as you said,
it did not end the way we wanted it to.
But every single day before that, we left America stronger
and more prosperous. But I would tell you I'm just
very confident that the American people, looking at the way
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Joe Biden has weakened this country at home and abroad,
are going to give us a fresh start. And you know,
we haven't decided what, if any role that will we'll
play in that public debate going forward. But I just
have great confidence in the people of this country. But
you know, this book my daughter and I came out
with we started writing about a year ago, but it
ends up almost providential timing for us. I wouldn't have
(08:04):
I wouldn't have scheduled a book a few weeks after
we suspended our presidential campaign on purpose, But it was
a book that I was inspired to write after word
of my autobiography became public because a friend came up
to me, Sean and said, said, you know, I'm looking
forward to reading the story of your political career and
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your service, but he said, the story I really want
to read is how do you have a family like
you and Karen have living the life that you've lived,
And that's where I go home for dinner. Was born
because we've tried to put into practice and basic principles
that I think are common to every family in the
country that's been able to thrive in these uncertain times.
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And I'm someone that believes that the faith and families
of this country are the ultimate wellspring of our strength.
So we hope this little book is an encouragement to people.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And by the way, Charlotte, I promise you I'm not
ignoring you. I just wanted to get a couple of
political questions into your dad, which I knew you knew
about ahead of time. Here's my first question, because I
think I know your dad and I know your mom
really well, but I'm just curious who is the tougher
parent who is the disciplinarian, was a mom or dad.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
You know, I don't know, they're kind of equal, but
I think I think my mom is definitely uh, you know,
she's she's she's I don't I don't know, she's We
call her a hummingbird because she just kind of she
just goes and goes and goes and goes. So I
think both of them I try to emulate, but I
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think my mom and I are similar, I hope in
that in that way. And she that's actually in the book.
We have a chapter all about her, so really, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So it's funny what I'll do, Charlotte, when I when
I have a couple around me and the kids are there,
I'll go to their kids. All right, let me ask
you a question. Who gives you more junk food? Mom
or dad? And then the parents, you know, every time
they're like on edge, it's me being a talk show host.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I can't help myself.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And you know, then the kid will give an answer, Oh,
definitely dad, who spoils you more?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Mom or dad? You know, and they'll give the answer.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And then I'll ask a couple other questions, like, Okay,
who's scarier when they get mad mom or dad. And
then the last question is easy, who's better looking mom
or dad? Nobody's ever messed up that question. But it's
got to be hard when your dad is in the
public eye, and you know the fact that he's criticized
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all of us in the public eye. That's it goes
with the territory. I've experienced it my entire career. I
am grateful that both my children are kind of numb
to it. They don't even care. I asked my daughter
maybe six months ago what time my radio show was on,
and she gay said noon to three. She didn't even know,
And that's and that actually made me happy that she
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didn't really know, because she doesn't follow or read this
stuff about her dad. Well, did it ever become hard
for you to read things about your dad or things
that are said about your dad, or maybe things you
watch on TV?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You know?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I think that it's always kind of hard. I mean,
obviously somebody's people are talking negatively about your uh, you know,
your loved ones. But at the end of the day,
I mean, I feel like, you know, I'm I'm not
a victim. I mean, my parents and raise me to
think of myself that way. I mean, you're in public life,
your family's in public life, and you're going to have,
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you know, have things happen and have have people say
nasty things, and you just have to kind of move on.
I think it inspires you to not make it your
whole life, not to be so susceptible to you know,
other people's opinions on Twitter. Just kind of leave, leave
the Twitter sphere and get back to your real life.
And I think it just encouraged you to do that more.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, all right, quick break, We'll come back more with
former Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's bond,
the new book Go Home for Dinner. You can get
it at Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores all
around the country. More with them on the other side
than your calls, eight hundred and ninety four to one,
sean our number as we continue from beautiful Nashville, Tennessee,
(12:30):
for tonight's Patriot Awards. All right, we continue with former
Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's bond
and they have their new book out, Go Home for Dinner,
Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores, now all around
the country. I took I've read the title of the book,
and Charlotte, I'll let you answer first, because your dad
gets to answer a lot more than you do. And
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it's go home for dinner and advice on how faith
makes a family and a family makes a life. And
I think back to my own own life as both
as a kid and raising my own kids. I'm now
with my twenty eighth year on the Fox News Channel.
Every year of their life growing up, I was at work.
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I was not home for family dinners. Now we did
make We always had family dinner on weekends, and I
always did a special day with my daughter, we called
a Daddy daughter Day. And that consisted of her picking
one store anyone she wanted, and she can go buy
whatever she wanted in that one store, and she had
ten minutes to do it because I hate to go shopping.
(13:35):
And then the second part of it was that she
would pick wherever we're going to eat, and for ten
years of my life she chose Subway, and I don't
like I'm not the biggest Subway fan. And Daddy Sunday
was we go buy all guy food, we cook it together,
and then we watch football that was Daddy Sunday. So
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you know, think back, what did these family dinners mean
to you because your dad was home a lot more
than I was home.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Well, you know, we kind of.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Talked about in the book really just how you know,
obviously not everybody can be home for dinner, especially not
every night. The idea is really the sentiment behind it,
kind of what you described a little bit just being
there for your family, letting them know that you're you're
there for them, that you put them first. I think
that that was always communicated to me as a kid.
I don't think that I was ever you know, thinking,
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oh my dad, you know, doesn't want to hang out
with me, he wants to go to work, he wants
to go be doing that. I never felt that way,
and I know that that was I know now that
was very intentional on the parts of my parents. So
I think family dinners, of course, but we talked about
having a family night, you know, once a week. We
did that on Friday nights where our family would hang
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out together and we kind of did a little Bible
lesson when we were little kids, and it was just
a way to kind of get together at the end.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Of the week.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
So there are different ways people can do it. I mean,
my husband's in the military, so he's he's not home
for dinner a lot of nights, So there are definitely
other ways you can live this out, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Quick break, Welcome back, More with former Vice President Mike
Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's moond the new book
Go Home for Dinner. You can get it at Amazon
dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores all around the country.
More with them on the other side than your calls.
Eight hundred and ninety four to one, Shawn our number.
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phone calls right after this with former Vice President Mike
Pennce his daughter Charlotte Penn's bond. The new book is
Alcoholme for Dinner, and it's on Amazon dot com, Hannity
dot com, bookstores around the country.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Now in the book, and maybe mister Vice President, you
can describe this that when you were young and you
had family dinners, the kids were not allowed to talk.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I found that to be very interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Well, I don't know how it was when you were
growing up, but when we were young kids growing up
in a little house on thirty first Street in a
small town in Indiana, it was you know what, you'd
hear mom or dad call out the back door, or
at the end of the day you knew you need
to come in, get cleaned up, put on a presentable shirt,
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be at the dinner table. And you're right, kids were
seen and not heard back again.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But now, my mom was a prison guard, work in
sixteen hour shifts every day. My dinner was whatever I
got at the deli or the local piece of place.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, and you know it's for us, it was, you know,
but it was a time for us to really observe
my three brothers and two sisters, really observe our parents,
to listen in on the periphery, and then the older
that we got teenage years, then you're in on the conversation.
And to me, that's the principle behind our book Go
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Home for Dinner is just it's about making a decision
and often times, you know, for us it's grounded in
our faith to just simply put our family first, because
it doesn't just happen. I mean, the reason you have
the kind of great relationship you have with your kids
is because you're intentional about it, just like we're describing
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on those special days. We got a whole chapter entitled
take your Daughter to Breakfast, where Charlotte and I recount
how from the time she was five years old, we
established the habit of have taken it and I took
her out to breakfast on her birthday every year and
uh in the day that she got married at the
at the vice President's residence in Washington, d C. I
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stood up with with with tears in my eyes, and
I told her new husband that he was now the
man in her life and there was one thing for
certain that he had to do, and that was he
needed to take her to breakfast on her birthday. And uh,
I was expecting him to do it. And so it's
just those those little deposits that we make in the
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lives of of our our kids, of our spouses, where
they see the continuity and the consistency that really at
the core of go home for Dinner, and it's made
difference in our life.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Let me let me just remind her everybody it's called
go home for Dinner. Advice on how faith makes a
family and a family makes a life. Amazon dot com,
Hannity dot com, bookstores around the country, and by the way,
perfect time to read it heading into Thanksgiving next week
and the Christmas season. Anyway, I really enjoyed having you
back on, mister Vice President. Look forward to more conversations
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in the future. Charlotte penns Bond, God bless you too
and your young kids.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Thanks Sean, appreciate all.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Right, appreciate it. Eight hundred and ninety four one. Sean
is our number if you want to be a part
of the program. Steve in Pennsylvania, what's up, Steve?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
How are you? My friend?
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Sean Hennity. Great to talk to you. It's an honor.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Gianna's all mine. Welcome to beautiful Nashville, Tennessee. Guessa, Tennessee
has no income tax anyone that gets income taxes? Smart
that pays no income taxes?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Smart?
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Amen on that one, sir?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
The reason why I'm calling it, I've been talking to
a lot of my Republican buddies and it worked trying
to figure out together, since we're in control as far
as the major party of the Congress, how do how
do we stop from our taxpayers money going to terrace
such as I iron and stuff like that. I just
heard that Joe Biden literally just sent them another check
(21:18):
for I can't remember the amount.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Ten million, ten no, no, no, ten billion? Did you
say million or billion? Ten billion dollars?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I said them both. It's a lot of money where
I come from.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
By the way, isn't it an amazing We've got no
time in life? We have thirty what five six trillion
dollars in debt and you know, millions, billions, trillions, these
these numbers, you know, people's eyes gloss over, but trillions.
And we're now paying annually over a trillion dollars on
interest on the debt alone before in other words, before
(21:52):
we can pay for one other thing we have. We
need a trillion dollars just to open up the government
just for debt, and it's only getting worse.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Crazy, Yeah, yeah, I just kind of concerned, how do
we pull our text. If we're in charge of the perset,
why can't we stop the payment on those checks that
are going over there. That's that's pretty much my question.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Look, I understand people. You know, some people are mad
at the new speaker, Mike Johnson, with these two separates.
He ares, but the plan is to get back to
the proper order, which is appropriations bills the fiscal year
for our government and September thirtieth, the new fiscal year
begins October one, and going forward, he has pledged and promised,
(22:39):
and we're going to hold him accountable for it that
he will have the appropriations bills done on time, vote
on them on time, so we avoid these continuing resolutions
and these insane omnibus bills like we got last holiday season.
That's not going to happen this holiday season. That's maybe
the one plus out of all of this. And and
(23:01):
you know, we got to give him time. He's got
to get his footing. And frankly, for the Republicans to
really be effective on spending, we need more conservatives elected.
There's too many moderate Republicans out there, rhino Republicans that
don't have any principles.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
I concur with that, sir. Yeah, so I and I
thank you for your time, and God bless you and
your family, and have a good holiday.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You two, my friends, Steve, God bless you and your family.
In spite of all the horror around the world. And
you know the difficulties that many families are experiencing.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And I've been there, I've lived there. It's not fun.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
We have so much to be grateful for, and we
do have an opportunity together in front of us, and
that's to get this country back on track. And that's
the one thing that I hope people will be thinking
about all year long and getting ready for all year long,
because the stakes, frankly, they just can't be any higher
(23:57):
than they are right now I be he phones eight
hundred ninet four one, Shawn.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Uh, Mimi, California. What's up? Mimi? How are you glad?
You called?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Afternoon?
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Good afternoon? You said it right there. I hope you
know that we can be a country that's blessed again
and turns to God, because this is a we were
always a country and everybody wants to come here, but
now we don't. We're not we're forgot about God. And
but one thing I wanted to stay with my meant.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But you know what, not everybody's forgotten about God.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Not everybody, but enough enough people that we're seeing what
we see right now in our especially in our times.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, let me put this way.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I if it wasn't for my faith, my belief in
a God, our Father, our creator, I'm a Christian. If
I didn't have that as a foundation in my life,
I don't know. I don't know how people make it
through tough times without that understanding. And you know, will
we ever know the real majesty of God?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Well?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I don't think on this earth, in this dimension, but
I do believe in an afterlife. I do believe that
in a place called heaven, and I do believe that
it is paradise. And I do believe in the biblical phrase.
If you look at the phrase, I often say, let
not your heart be troubled, and it goes on to say,
in my father's house are many mansions, and I go
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there to prepare a place for you, so that where
I am, ye shall also be.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And I believe that.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I believe all of that, and that helps keep me
somewhat centered, somewhat balanced, somewhat normal, because a lot of
talk show hosts are out of their mind.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
You're right, well, there's no hope without price. So the
people who don't know Christ and don't believe in him,
they have no hope, and that's where they live the
way they live. And at a time like this especially,
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It just keeps me grounded. I've never forgotten where I
came from. I know that I've been blessed, that this
is an undeserved life I've been and I never I
always thought I'd fail in radio on TV.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I never thought i'd succeed. Ever, it makes you.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Who you are. Sean all of us going through hardships,
that's a good thing. It gives us even hard work.
But our kids today, they don't understand what real hard work.
At least a lot of them don't. The what I've
seen in the new generation that there.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Have a spoiled.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Upbringing and I'm guilty of it by myself with my
own daughter, But they don't know what real hardships are.
So it's hard for them when things like this happen,
like they really will be in disarray unless, like like
we were talking about before, Unless you unless you know
Christ and you know where you're going when you die,
then you don't have hope in this world.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
There's no hope. Well, I appreciate you call.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know, I'll often ask on this program atheists ask
him questions. Okay, you believe in a big bank theory? Yeah, okay, okay,
So if you believe in a big bank theory that
actually created we now know universes within universes within universes
to the point where we can't even see all of creation.
(27:11):
And my question is simple, Okay, so how did the
Big Bang happen? Where did the energy from the Bang
come from? Because I think as an atheist, you have
to then believe that something can come from nothing, and
I don't believe that that to me is a scientific
If we follow the science, follow the math, you can't
(27:35):
believe that all of that energy existed on its own
and collided on its own and created the heavens, the Earth,
the universes, and every living thing in it. I don't
believe that's possible. And I think in that sense, I
just think people just starting not thinking people. You don't
(27:58):
have to use the faith quotes and when it comes
to a belief that there is a God, a creator,
but we don't have to understand that. If God wanted
us to understand him more at this point in our lives,
we would understand Himore.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
But clearly that's not in the plan.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I do look forward to one day understanding more, but
I'm perfectly content waiting a lot of days before that day.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I needed it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I need a little bit more forgiveness before I get
to that point, especially Linda. Linda needs probably to live
to one hundred, maybe one hundred and ten.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I'm tell you right now, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Your pastor's mad at you. Oh yeah, why why because
you have a hate list. You brought back your hate list.
First of all, the hate list never went away, just
got shorter. The big difference. Okay, but it's gotten bigger again.
Oh yeah, I hate everybody. I feel like this, and
I think a.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Lot of Let me.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm about love God with all your heart, mind and soul,
and your neighbors, yourself.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
That's your thing. I don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That's called the Bible. It's not called my thing.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
This is the space I live in. I'm tell you
right now, I hate everybody equally. Everybody starts from the
same spot. You hate me, Well, I know you too long.
So there's things I don't like about you. But as overall,
I think you're all right.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Like if you had to grade me one out of ten,
what do I get?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
It depends on the day did you eat you? You know,
things like that.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Okay, that's true.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
I'm sorry. Overall scale of one out of ten, I
think you're fantastic.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I think you're fantastic too.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I would give you a nine point nine because that
point one percent of the time that you know what
you're talking.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
About, Adam shiff you would not.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
However, I'm giving you nine point nine.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
There are many days where you look at me, where
you're like driving me and I'm like.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Are you gonna have a stroke.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Are you okay?
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Everything all right?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
All right?
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Moving on my point in telling you this is I
hate everybody equally, and.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I believe that I am and I mean every word
of it.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
And but you know, if I finished myself, you know what.
I think.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Your mind reading abilities are getting better with every year.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
It is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Keep going.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
So this is the point where I tell you there
are people that I meet I think I don't like
that person, and then I get to know them and
they earn my trust or they do the right things,
you know, YadA YadA. And then there are people and
I said, oh, yeah, there was a reason I hated
you from the beginning.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
There we go, all right, I got it.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Can I ask a question?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Now?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
What did Jesus say some of his last words when
he died on the cross?
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Love others as you love yourself. No people as your brother.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Not on the cross? What did he say on the
cross to his father?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I don't know. They know not forgive them, for they
not giving.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Them father, for they know not what they do. How
many times did Jesus tell the apostles they should forgive others?
Speaker 6 (30:33):
I didn't say it. Didn't forgive people. I say I
hate them.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
There's a difference. Well, you can't forgive and hate them.
You can't.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Oh, I said, I hate everybody equal from the beginning.
And then people have the right to earn their their trust,
my trust, and then we move forward from there. And
I think I'm just going to say it out loud.
There's a lot of people in this world who don't
live by Christ. They live by Satan. So as far
as I'm concerned, you deserve every ounce of hatred that
I have. And when I look at people marching down
the street saying pro palace, dine and f the Jews
(31:01):
and everything else, you know what, I do hate them.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Okay, but what did you do? What they do?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
What is the example of Jesus though? The people that
murdered him, beat him, slaughtered him.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And what did he do?
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
But Christ is amazing. That's why Christ died for our
sins because we stink.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, there's one way to but it. We're all saying
we are all sinners and have fallen short. Eighth nine
four one Shaw has our number. If you want to
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Hi, Thanks Scott Chennon and Hour two Sean Hannity's Show.
Thanks for being with us. Right down our toll free number.
It's eight hundred and nine foot one, Seawan if you
want to be a part of the program. We are
in beautiful Nashville, Tennessee, music City for tonight's Fox Nation
Awards and the Patriot Awards. Some of the people that
they honor are just unbelievable, just really pleased and proud
(00:21):
to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And it's just such a different place.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You like you've ended entered America circa nineteen fifty Again,
We're kind of as normal. I guess I'm so used
to the insanity that is New York and all these
big cities unfortunately that I've been stuck in. It's nice
to see people say, out of nowhere, how are you doing,
Nice to talk to you, have a good day. I mean,
(00:47):
it's kind of crazy, but anyway, we welcome back to
the program. Former Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter.
By the way, Charlotte Penn's Bonda is with us. They
have a new book out together. It's Go Home for Dinner.
Advice on how faith makes a family a family.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hang on.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Go Home for Dinner, advice on how faith makes a
family and a family makes a life.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's, you know, terrific.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's on Amazon dot Comhannity dot com, and bookstores all
around the country, mister Vice President, and Charlotte Penn's bond.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Are you.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Just great? Sean? Thanks for having us on today.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know you you come from Indiana, so I think,
and you've traveled the country, and you've traveled the world.
I've had you in studio in New York. I mean,
what is it like for a guy from Indiana to
end up in New York, San Francisco, Chicago and some
of the worst parts of the country and then go
back home to Indiana. You know, it's like going back
(01:50):
down home where people are just a lot different.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's it's amazing, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, it's one of the great things about you know,
I had hope for a better outcome in my campaign
for president, but I don't regret a minute of it
because traveling all across this country, just like you're experiencing
today in Nashville before the patrioty Wards is you know,
this is a country of good, decent, hard working, idealistic,
(02:16):
generous and kind people, and you know, all the travels
that have taken us around the country. My daughter lives
on the West Coast where she and her husband are
stationed in the military. But it's always great to be
back home to the heartland, and it's fun to hear
you get a breath of that today in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well you may not know this, but if you go
down sixty five out of Nashville south into Alabama, there
is an exit.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It has a cracker barrel, which I fell in love
with when I was in the South.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You know, I spent a lot of years, you know,
travel around the world as in my radio career, and anyway,
I arrived in Athens, Alabama, my first professional radio gig
in nineteen nine. Now the town all of a sudden,
here's a guy with a thick New York accident.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Welcome to talk radio, the Sean Hannity Show, and people Sean,
how you doing, man, Welcome to Huntsville because it's right
next to Huntsholds, the Huntsville market, And I'm like, how
you doing. Good to talk to you, you man, You
talk funny, they'd say, but it made it kind of
made me notorious in a way. And you know when
I left two years later to spend four great years
(03:27):
in Atlanta, they they did editorialize goodbye to the talk
show host from Hell. I actually had a framed I
was so proud of that. I guess I've made I
guess I had an impact on the market. Right, I'm
still here, I'm still doing it.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
We're proud and grateful for your career. And you know,
I spent some of those early years for you. I
was I was working in small town Indiana talk radio.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But by the way, you did a great job on
talk radio, got a very successful run at it. I
know people knew you as a congressman, as governor, as
vice president for four years. I mean, what a journey
you've been on. And well, let me ask you. I
know because I also talked to Tim Scott this week.
I spoke to you privately this week. I won't divulge
(04:16):
to the nature of the conversation, but we've known each
other so many years, and you know, as vice president,
I'll never forget. I was having a pretty tough time
and it was in the public and you picked up
a phone. You're the vice president of our country, and
you just called to say, hey, I'm praying for you,
thinking about you. I could ever do anything let me know.
(04:37):
And I'm like, why would the vice president ever think
of calling me? And it meant a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, you're very kind, Sean, but I'm sure that there
are millions of people around the country if they had
your number, they'd have called you to and in lots
of different circumstances. We're just a family that appreciates you,
appreciates who you are. I appreciate your voice. But I
will tell you, you know, as I said, you know, we
we came to the conclusion, as my friend Tim Scott
(05:05):
did a couple of days ago, that this was not
my time but to get out across this country to
spend time with the American people. It really did renew
my faith in the people of this country and in
my determination. Whatever the future holds for me and my family,
(05:26):
we're going to continue to fight for all the same
conservative values that have defined your career and have defined
our years of service.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know, it's an amazing thing. You're right about one thing.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's you know, when we talk about making America great
and making America great again, and the four years the
great I thought it was a great partnership with you
and President Trump. It's kind of sad to me that
it didn't end well because everything else did pretty much
go well, certainly dealing with COVID the last two years
(05:59):
or view administration. You know, we've never faced the pandemic
like that in one hundred years. Made things very complicated,
very expensive, very difficult, very controversial. But at the end
of the day, those policies, those conservative policies that we
hold near and dear when they are implemented. You did
it as a congressman, you did it as a governor,
(06:20):
you did it as vice president, and the country and
the people were better off. You know, we now have
sixty percent plus of American citizens live in paycheck to paycheck.
We have people getting bare necessities and having to put
things on their credit card. You know, at twenty one
percent interest rates, we're now paying nearly double what we
paid for a gallon of gasoline. When you were vice president,
(06:44):
our borders were secure. They're wide open. Eight million people
came into this country, and I'm sure among them are
people that have nefarious intentions for the American people.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
They have.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
There's been no vetting, no background checks, there's no stay
in Mexico policy, there's no building of any wall, and
it's just sad to me that we've gone backwards. Never mind,
you know, the Joe Biden I believe, abdicating our role
on the world stage as the leading country for the
force of freedom.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, look, you're you know, I'm incredibly proud of the
record of the Trump Fence administration. And I'll say that
for the rest of my life. And as you said,
it did not end the way we wanted it to.
But every single day before that, we left America stronger
and more prosperous. But I would tell you I'm just
very confident that the American people, looking at the way
(07:39):
Joe Biden has weakened this country at home and abroad,
are going to give us a fresh start. And you know,
we haven't decided what, if any role that will we'll
play in that public debate going forward. But I just
have great confidence in the people of this country. But
you know, this book my daughter and I came out
with we started writing about a year ago, but it
ends up almost providential timing for us. I wouldn't have
(08:04):
I wouldn't have scheduled a book a few weeks after
we suspended our presidential campaign on purpose, But it was
a book that I was inspired to write after word
of my autobiography became public because a friend came up
to me, Sean and said, said, you know, I'm looking
forward to reading the story of your political career and
(08:24):
your service, but he said, the story I really want
to read is how do you have a family like
you and Karen have living the life that you've lived,
And that's where I go home for dinner. Was born
because we've tried to put into practice and basic principles
that I think are common to every family in the
country that's been able to thrive in these uncertain times.
(08:46):
And I'm someone that believes that the faith and families
of this country are the ultimate wellspring of our strength.
So we hope this little book is an encouragement to people.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And by the way, Charlotte, I promise you I'm not
ignoring you. I just wanted to get a couple of
political questions into your dad, which I knew you knew
about ahead of time. Here's my first question, because I
think I know your dad and I know your mom
really well, but I'm just curious who is the tougher
parent who is the disciplinarian, was a mom or dad.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
You know, I don't know, they're kind of equal, but
I think I think my mom is definitely uh, you know,
she's she's she's I don't I don't know, she's We
call her a hummingbird because she just kind of she
just goes and goes and goes and goes. So I
think both of them I try to emulate, but I
(09:45):
think my mom and I are similar, I hope in
that in that way. And she that's actually in the book.
We have a chapter all about her, so really, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So it's funny what I'll do, Charlotte, when I when
I have a couple around me and the kids are there,
I'll go to their kids. All right, let me ask
you a question. Who gives you more junk food? Mom
or dad? And then the parents, you know, every time
they're like on edge, it's me being a talk show host.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I can't help myself.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And you know, then the kid will give an answer, Oh,
definitely dad, who spoils you more?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Mom or dad? You know, and they'll give the answer.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And then I'll ask a couple other questions, like, Okay,
who's scarier when they get mad mom or dad. And
then the last question is easy, who's better looking mom
or dad? Nobody's ever messed up that question. But it's
got to be hard when your dad is in the
public eye, and you know the fact that he's criticized
(10:47):
all of us in the public eye. That's it goes
with the territory. I've experienced it my entire career. I
am grateful that both my children are kind of numb
to it. They don't even care. I asked my daughter
maybe six months ago what time my radio show was on,
and she gay said noon to three. She didn't even know,
And that's and that actually made me happy that she
(11:09):
didn't really know, because she doesn't follow or read this
stuff about her dad. Well, did it ever become hard
for you to read things about your dad or things
that are said about your dad, or maybe things you
watch on TV?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You know?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I think that it's always kind of hard. I mean,
obviously somebody's people are talking negatively about your uh, you know,
your loved ones. But at the end of the day,
I mean, I feel like, you know, I'm I'm not
a victim. I mean, my parents and raise me to
think of myself that way. I mean, you're in public life,
your family's in public life, and you're going to have,
(11:46):
you know, have things happen and have have people say
nasty things, and you just have to kind of move on.
I think it inspires you to not make it your
whole life, not to be so susceptible to you know,
other people's opinions on Twitter. Just kind of leave, leave
the Twitter sphere and get back to your real life.
And I think it just encouraged you to do that more.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, all right, quick break, We'll come back more with
former Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's bond,
the new book Go Home for Dinner. You can get
it at Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores all
around the country. More with them on the other side
than your calls, eight hundred and ninety four to one,
sean our number as we continue from beautiful Nashville, Tennessee,
(12:30):
for tonight's Patriot Awards. All right, we continue with former
Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's bond
and they have their new book out, Go Home for Dinner,
Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores, now all around
the country. I took I've read the title of the book,
and Charlotte, I'll let you answer first, because your dad
gets to answer a lot more than you do. And
(12:51):
it's go home for dinner and advice on how faith
makes a family and a family makes a life. And
I think back to my own own life as both
as a kid and raising my own kids. I'm now
with my twenty eighth year on the Fox News Channel.
Every year of their life growing up, I was at work.
(13:13):
I was not home for family dinners. Now we did
make We always had family dinner on weekends, and I
always did a special day with my daughter, we called
a Daddy daughter Day. And that consisted of her picking
one store anyone she wanted, and she can go buy
whatever she wanted in that one store, and she had
ten minutes to do it because I hate to go shopping.
(13:35):
And then the second part of it was that she
would pick wherever we're going to eat, and for ten
years of my life she chose Subway, and I don't
like I'm not the biggest Subway fan. And Daddy Sunday
was we go buy all guy food, we cook it together,
and then we watch football that was Daddy Sunday. So
(13:56):
you know, think back, what did these family dinners mean
to you because your dad was home a lot more
than I was home.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Well, you know, we kind of.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Talked about in the book really just how you know,
obviously not everybody can be home for dinner, especially not
every night. The idea is really the sentiment behind it,
kind of what you described a little bit just being
there for your family, letting them know that you're you're
there for them, that you put them first. I think
that that was always communicated to me as a kid.
I don't think that I was ever you know, thinking,
(14:27):
oh my dad, you know, doesn't want to hang out
with me, he wants to go to work, he wants
to go be doing that. I never felt that way,
and I know that that was I know now that
was very intentional on the parts of my parents. So
I think family dinners, of course, but we talked about
having a family night, you know, once a week. We
did that on Friday nights where our family would hang
(14:48):
out together and we kind of did a little Bible
lesson when we were little kids, and it was just
a way to kind of get together at the end.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Of the week.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
So there are different ways people can do it. I mean,
my husband's in the military, so he's he's not home
for dinner a lot of nights, So there are definitely
other ways you can live this out, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Quick break, Welcome back, More with former Vice President Mike
Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's moond the new book
Go Home for Dinner. You can get it at Amazon
dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores all around the country.
More with them on the other side than your calls.
Eight hundred and ninety four to one, Shawn our number.
As we continue from beautiful Nashville, Tennessee.
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Pennce his daughter Charlotte Penn's bond. The new book is
Alcoholme for Dinner, and it's on Amazon dot com, Hannity
dot com, bookstores around the country.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Now in the book, and maybe mister Vice President, you
can describe this that when you were young and you
had family dinners, the kids were not allowed to talk.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I found that to be very interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Well, I don't know how it was when you were
growing up, but when we were young kids growing up
in a little house on thirty first Street in a
small town in Indiana, it was you know what, you'd
hear mom or dad call out the back door, or
at the end of the day you knew you need
to come in, get cleaned up, put on a presentable shirt,
(18:05):
be at the dinner table. And you're right, kids were
seen and not heard back again.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But now, my mom was a prison guard, work in
sixteen hour shifts every day. My dinner was whatever I
got at the deli or the local piece of place.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, and you know it's for us, it was, you know,
but it was a time for us to really observe
my three brothers and two sisters, really observe our parents,
to listen in on the periphery, and then the older
that we got teenage years, then you're in on the conversation.
And to me, that's the principle behind our book Go
(18:40):
Home for Dinner is just it's about making a decision
and often times, you know, for us it's grounded in
our faith to just simply put our family first, because
it doesn't just happen. I mean, the reason you have
the kind of great relationship you have with your kids
is because you're intentional about it, just like we're describing
(19:01):
on those special days. We got a whole chapter entitled
take your Daughter to Breakfast, where Charlotte and I recount
how from the time she was five years old, we
established the habit of have taken it and I took
her out to breakfast on her birthday every year and
uh in the day that she got married at the
at the vice President's residence in Washington, d C. I
(19:24):
stood up with with with tears in my eyes, and
I told her new husband that he was now the
man in her life and there was one thing for
certain that he had to do, and that was he
needed to take her to breakfast on her birthday. And uh,
I was expecting him to do it. And so it's
just those those little deposits that we make in the
(19:46):
lives of of our our kids, of our spouses, where
they see the continuity and the consistency that really at
the core of go home for Dinner, and it's made
difference in our life.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Let me let me just remind her everybody it's called
go home for Dinner. Advice on how faith makes a
family and a family makes a life. Amazon dot com,
Hannity dot com, bookstores around the country, and by the way,
perfect time to read it heading into Thanksgiving next week
and the Christmas season. Anyway, I really enjoyed having you
back on, mister Vice President. Look forward to more conversations
(20:20):
in the future. Charlotte penns Bond, God bless you too
and your young kids.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Thanks Sean, appreciate all.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Right, appreciate it. Eight hundred and ninety four one. Sean
is our number if you want to be a part
of the program. Steve in Pennsylvania, what's up, Steve?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
How are you? My friend?
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Sean Hennity. Great to talk to you. It's an honor.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Gianna's all mine. Welcome to beautiful Nashville, Tennessee. Guessa, Tennessee
has no income tax anyone that gets income taxes? Smart
that pays no income taxes?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Smart?
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Amen on that one, sir?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
The reason why I'm calling it, I've been talking to
a lot of my Republican buddies and it worked trying
to figure out together, since we're in control as far
as the major party of the Congress, how do how
do we stop from our taxpayers money going to terrace
such as I iron and stuff like that. I just
heard that Joe Biden literally just sent them another check
(21:18):
for I can't remember the amount.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Ten million, ten no, no, no, ten billion? Did you
say million or billion? Ten billion dollars?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I said them both. It's a lot of money where
I come from.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
By the way, isn't it an amazing We've got no
time in life? We have thirty what five six trillion
dollars in debt and you know, millions, billions, trillions, these
these numbers, you know, people's eyes gloss over, but trillions.
And we're now paying annually over a trillion dollars on
interest on the debt alone before in other words, before
(21:52):
we can pay for one other thing we have. We
need a trillion dollars just to open up the government
just for debt, and it's only getting worse.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Crazy, Yeah, yeah, I just kind of concerned, how do
we pull our text. If we're in charge of the perset,
why can't we stop the payment on those checks that
are going over there. That's that's pretty much my question.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Look, I understand people. You know, some people are mad
at the new speaker, Mike Johnson, with these two separates.
He ares, but the plan is to get back to
the proper order, which is appropriations bills the fiscal year
for our government and September thirtieth, the new fiscal year
begins October one, and going forward, he has pledged and promised,
(22:39):
and we're going to hold him accountable for it that
he will have the appropriations bills done on time, vote
on them on time, so we avoid these continuing resolutions
and these insane omnibus bills like we got last holiday season.
That's not going to happen this holiday season. That's maybe
the one plus out of all of this. And and
(23:01):
you know, we got to give him time. He's got
to get his footing. And frankly, for the Republicans to
really be effective on spending, we need more conservatives elected.
There's too many moderate Republicans out there, rhino Republicans that
don't have any principles.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
I concur with that, sir. Yeah, so I and I
thank you for your time, and God bless you and
your family, and have a good holiday.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You two, my friends, Steve, God bless you and your family.
In spite of all the horror around the world. And
you know the difficulties that many families are experiencing.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And I've been there, I've lived there. It's not fun.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
We have so much to be grateful for, and we
do have an opportunity together in front of us, and
that's to get this country back on track. And that's
the one thing that I hope people will be thinking
about all year long and getting ready for all year long,
because the stakes, frankly, they just can't be any higher
(23:57):
than they are right now I be he phones eight
hundred ninet four one, Shawn.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Uh, Mimi, California. What's up? Mimi? How are you glad?
You called?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Afternoon?
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Good afternoon? You said it right there. I hope you
know that we can be a country that's blessed again
and turns to God, because this is a we were
always a country and everybody wants to come here, but
now we don't. We're not we're forgot about God. And
but one thing I wanted to stay with my meant.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But you know what, not everybody's forgotten about God.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Not everybody, but enough enough people that we're seeing what
we see right now in our especially in our times.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, let me put this way.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I if it wasn't for my faith, my belief in
a God, our Father, our creator, I'm a Christian. If
I didn't have that as a foundation in my life,
I don't know. I don't know how people make it
through tough times without that understanding. And you know, will
we ever know the real majesty of God?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Well?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I don't think on this earth, in this dimension, but
I do believe in an afterlife. I do believe that
in a place called heaven, and I do believe that
it is paradise. And I do believe in the biblical phrase.
If you look at the phrase, I often say, let
not your heart be troubled, and it goes on to say,
in my father's house are many mansions, and I go
(25:22):
there to prepare a place for you, so that where
I am, ye shall also be.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And I believe that.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I believe all of that, and that helps keep me
somewhat centered, somewhat balanced, somewhat normal, because a lot of
talk show hosts are out of their mind.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
You're right, well, there's no hope without price. So the
people who don't know Christ and don't believe in him,
they have no hope, and that's where they live the
way they live. And at a time like this especially,
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It just keeps me grounded. I've never forgotten where I
came from. I know that I've been blessed, that this
is an undeserved life I've been and I never I
always thought I'd fail in radio on TV.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I never thought i'd succeed. Ever, it makes you.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Who you are. Sean all of us going through hardships,
that's a good thing. It gives us even hard work.
But our kids today, they don't understand what real hard work.
At least a lot of them don't. The what I've
seen in the new generation that there.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Have a spoiled.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Upbringing and I'm guilty of it by myself with my
own daughter, But they don't know what real hardships are.
So it's hard for them when things like this happen,
like they really will be in disarray unless, like like
we were talking about before, Unless you unless you know
Christ and you know where you're going when you die,
then you don't have hope in this world.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
There's no hope. Well, I appreciate you call.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know, I'll often ask on this program atheists ask
him questions. Okay, you believe in a big bank theory? Yeah, okay, okay,
So if you believe in a big bank theory that
actually created we now know universes within universes within universes
to the point where we can't even see all of creation.
(27:11):
And my question is simple, Okay, so how did the
Big Bang happen? Where did the energy from the Bang
come from? Because I think as an atheist, you have
to then believe that something can come from nothing, and
I don't believe that that to me is a scientific
If we follow the science, follow the math, you can't
(27:35):
believe that all of that energy existed on its own
and collided on its own and created the heavens, the Earth,
the universes, and every living thing in it. I don't
believe that's possible. And I think in that sense, I
just think people just starting not thinking people. You don't
(27:58):
have to use the faith quotes and when it comes
to a belief that there is a God, a creator,
but we don't have to understand that. If God wanted
us to understand him more at this point in our lives,
we would understand Himore.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
But clearly that's not in the plan.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I do look forward to one day understanding more, but
I'm perfectly content waiting a lot of days before that day.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I needed it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I need a little bit more forgiveness before I get
to that point, especially Linda. Linda needs probably to live
to one hundred, maybe one hundred and ten.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I'm tell you right now, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Your pastor's mad at you. Oh yeah, why why because
you have a hate list. You brought back your hate list.
First of all, the hate list never went away, just
got shorter. The big difference. Okay, but it's gotten bigger again.
Oh yeah, I hate everybody. I feel like this, and
I think a.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Lot of Let me.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm about love God with all your heart, mind and soul,
and your neighbors, yourself.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
That's your thing. I don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That's called the Bible. It's not called my thing.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
This is the space I live in. I'm tell you
right now, I hate everybody equally. Everybody starts from the
same spot. You hate me, Well, I know you too long.
So there's things I don't like about you. But as overall,
I think you're all right.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Like if you had to grade me one out of ten,
what do I get?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
It depends on the day did you eat you? You know,
things like that.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Okay, that's true.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
I'm sorry. Overall scale of one out of ten, I
think you're fantastic.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I think you're fantastic too.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I would give you a nine point nine because that
point one percent of the time that you know what
you're talking.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
About, Adam shiff you would not.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
However, I'm giving you nine point nine.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
There are many days where you look at me, where
you're like driving me and I'm like.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Are you gonna have a stroke.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Are you okay?
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Everything all right?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
All right?
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Moving on my point in telling you this is I
hate everybody equally, and.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I believe that I am and I mean every word
of it.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
And but you know, if I finished myself, you know what.
I think.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Your mind reading abilities are getting better with every year.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
It is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Keep going.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
So this is the point where I tell you there
are people that I meet I think I don't like
that person, and then I get to know them and
they earn my trust or they do the right things,
you know, YadA YadA. And then there are people and
I said, oh, yeah, there was a reason I hated
you from the beginning.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
There we go, all right, I got it.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Can I ask a question?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Now?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
What did Jesus say some of his last words when
he died on the cross?
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Love others as you love yourself. No people as your brother.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Not on the cross? What did he say on the
cross to his father?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I don't know. They know not forgive them, for they
not giving.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Them father, for they know not what they do. How
many times did Jesus tell the apostles they should forgive others?
Speaker 6 (30:33):
I didn't say it. Didn't forgive people. I say I
hate them.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
There's a difference. Well, you can't forgive and hate them.
You can't.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Oh, I said, I hate everybody equal from the beginning.
And then people have the right to earn their their trust,
my trust, and then we move forward from there. And
I think I'm just going to say it out loud.
There's a lot of people in this world who don't
live by Christ. They live by Satan. So as far
as I'm concerned, you deserve every ounce of hatred that
I have. And when I look at people marching down
the street saying pro palace, dine and f the Jews
(31:01):
and everything else, you know what, I do hate them.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Okay, but what did you do? What they do?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
What is the example of Jesus though? The people that
murdered him, beat him, slaughtered him.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And what did he do?
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
But Christ is amazing. That's why Christ died for our
sins because we stink.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, there's one way to but it. We're all saying
we are all sinners and have fallen short. Eighth nine
four one Shaw has our number. If you want to
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