More On The Balloon - February 6th, Hour 2

Dr. Weifeng (WAY-FUNG) Zhong (ZONG) who is a Senior Research Fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University and Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse of China and The Great U.S.-China Tech War, discuss the Chinese spy balloon that took an unfettered national tour of our country.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our two Sean Hannity show toll free. It's eight hundred
and nine for one Sean if you want to be
a part of the program. I mean some of the
comments of some people on the left, their mind numbing
to me. You know, one of the geniuses out there
is Anna Navarro. China loves that the GOP turned the
Chinese balloon situation into a big drama. This is what

(00:21):
she said. He knows he is not the biggest expert
one he had. He's not the one that knows the
most about a particular subject matter. Well, so Marco Rubio says,
if we send a balloon to China, Beijing, I guarantee
you would shoot it down. I think this was about
China sending a message, right, and that is that is
a serious issue because I think they are establishing themselves,
have established themselves as now a major world power, and

(00:45):
they want to show their strength. Do you think they
wanted to show Biden's weakness as well? They want to book.
They love this, They love that remember that Republicans turned
this into this big drama. That you know that there's
senators and people shootings. This is this is about you know,
exercises exercises in the South China seas. This is satellites
all over the place. This is they wanted this thing

(01:07):
to be spotted. If you're going to spy, you're not
going to send a giant balloon all across the United
States for a week, right. I mean, the Chinese know
how to spy. They you know, they can do it better.
They wanted to create a crisis, a national crisis and
international crisis. They wanted it to be elevated and can
be visible and be talked about, and they got it.

(01:27):
And I agree, well, it should be a big deal,
and it is a big deal. And the fact that
it was allowed to continue day after day after day
after day and they did nothing the whole time is
incomprehensible to me. Anyway. Joining us now, Gordon Chang is
with us, author of the Coming Collapse of China and
the Great US China Tech War. Gordon, welcome back to

(01:50):
the program. How are you, sir? I'm fine showing him.
Thank you so much. Well. I see this very differently
than Anna Navarro. I see it as a moment where
it's the American people better wake up to the fact
that they are our number one geopolitical threat. They better
wake up to the fact that they're buying our farmland,

(02:10):
our ranch land near military installations. They better wake up
and understand that Joe Biden selling our strategic petroleum reserves
to the communist Chinese. That would be insane. They better
wake up to the fact that these these governors all
around the country have picked up on something that I
would imagine is likely right and that TikTok it can

(02:33):
be used as some kind of spy operation. And they
better pick up that we better deal with the Chinese
and a more adversarial way because they have chosen that path,
not us. You're absolutely right. I couldn't agree with you more.
And the other thing to add is that this balloon

(02:54):
incident indicates that the problems with China are not like
next year or the year after that. They are right
now because obviously something is wrong in the Chinese regime.
It's become much more belligerent. We don't know exactly why,
but none of the explanations are good. For instance, this
could have been an intimidation move on the part of

(03:15):
the Chinese show the rest of the world that we're incapable,
or it could have been the Chinese military freelancing on
their own, or it could very well be that people
wanted to derail cooperative relations with the US. But whatever
it is, Sean, it means we could be very much
in a war with China very soon. You're talking about

(03:37):
a cold war, You're talking about a real military conflict.
I'm talking about a real military conflict because at the
moment China thinks it that a war with us, but
it's that unrestricted warfare that all intellectual properties, all the
rest of it. But I was talking about a kinetic
war as it is called, largely because the Chinese military

(03:59):
right now looks like it's slipped the leash, and we've
got to be very concerned that we are going to
be in battle with the Chinese. Look, Sean, we know
in general China is mobilizing the war. Not only mobilizing
it's military, but also it's civilians. It's trying to sanction
proof the regime because it knows what's coming down the road.

(04:20):
There are signs that this is going to be a war,
and it could very well be soon. And by the way,
if we don't do anything to stop this, we will
be in a war. Because the drift is that way
it's up to Biden, it's up to the American people
to try to stop China. We can do it, but
we can't do it if the administration continues on the

(04:41):
current path. So let's look at everything in one big picture. Here,
they're buying all our farmland, range land, They're buying land
near military installations. They're also according to experts, I don't
know much about TikTok, but they're telling us and states
are banning TikTok because they believe it as a spy
element to it. And then of course we have COVID.

(05:05):
Then we have horrible trade deals. Then we have a
reliance on chips and other manufacturing equipment vital to our economy,
including life saving medicines for example. Then we have the
hostility of Fenton all which you mentioned. I think that's
that's bad, a horrible, horrible intellectual property theft problem with

(05:27):
the communist Chinese. Yeah, they've become belligerent and aggressive, and
clearly they don't fear Joe Biden, do they or they
never would have done this. They don't fear Joe Biden,
and we know that from what they've been saying, because
they're propaganda. Since the beginning of the administration has been
that the US no longer deters China and we can't

(05:49):
talk to them from the position of strength. That was
Chinese word, China's words when they sent their top two
diplomats two Anchorage to meet Secretary of State Anthony Blank
and as well as National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan. This
is something that they highlighted. Just after Biden was elected,
but before he took office. There was an academic d

(06:11):
Dunc Song who gave a lecture which was live stream
to cost China November twenty eight, twenty twenty, where the
d Dunc Song said, look, China looks forward to Biden
taking the oath of office because then we can tell
the US what to do again. And d actually said
that China couldn't do that during the four years of

(06:31):
the Trump administration. This is a real indication of Chinese
mentality and it means that that's going to push them
to do something too far, which is Chinese by balloon.
Actually is an example of you suggested that maybe you
have actors kind of go in rogue against President She.

(06:53):
Do you see that type of serious, significant internal political
strife in China right now? That's a real possibility. Yes,
that the Chinese military fields that can do whatever it
wants because it's been empowered by Cijing Ping. I mean,
the other possibility is that Cijuing Ping told the military
to do this. One could also say that the military

(07:15):
told the Cijing thing that they're going to do it,
and Seed decided not to stop them. The one thing, Sean,
is that the Chinese regime over the last four or
five years has become less transparent, so it's really opaque
right now. We're just guessing as to what's going on.
But all of the possibilities are horrible. China right now

(07:35):
is extremely dangerous, and there's no sense of urgency in
the Oval Office, and there's no sense of urgency at
the top of the Pentagon, starting with Lloyd Austin and
General Milling, Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, respectively. So although we're a far
stronger society than China, China can take us by surprise,
and China can defeat us because we're not defending ourselves.

(07:58):
But China has been building up and we've called attention
to this now for well over a decade. They've they've
been massively building up their military capabilities for almost two
decades now, have they surpassed us in terms of technology
and military capability and readiness. Well, certainly in readiness because

(08:18):
we're not ready for a lot of reasons. But also
we know that China in certain areas as weapons that
are better than ours, so for instance their cruise missiles
which can take out our ships. In general, we're a
stronger military for a number of reasons, but we've got
critical vulnerabilities. But the biggest vulnerability shown is not weapon

(08:39):
for weapon, really it is leadership. And right now in
the United States, we've got a leadership that is not prepared,
and we got a China that is getting ready for war.
And it's not just their military, they are mobilizing their
civilians for war, and that's an Indian well, all of
society efforts. They've shown all of this, all of their

(09:02):
territorial ambitions with Taiwan and and talk so often about reunification.
That's their term. Obviously would not be reunification, but our
number one. Ally they've been very quick to be very
aggressive and in lecturing us about visiting our own ally
in Taiwan. I believe seventy percent of those precious chips

(09:24):
that are needed for so many Much of our technology,
including our automobiles, comes from Taiwan. Kevin McCarthy is scheduled
to make a visit. When Nancy Pelosi made it, I
mean they were there was talk about shooting her out
of the sky for crying out loud, which is insane.
And yet they're flying over Taiwan airspace every day. They
haven't made the move yet. Why haven't they? And do

(09:47):
you think they will soon? Yeah? I can't judge intentions,
but I can say that they are preparing to take
Taiwan through force because has made it a test of
his personal legitimacy that they do so. And they actually
think the United States won't come to Taiwan's rescue, and
they are very clear about that. We don't have to

(10:08):
guess because they actually say that in their propaganda. You know,
you know, I can talk to you for ages about
reasons why they would and wouldn't. But the point is
we need to be prepared. Because they are preparing. We
should be matching their preparations. If we do that, we
can avoid war. If we don't do that, the Chinese
will think that they can get away with it, they

(10:30):
will try something, it will end up in conflict. And
that means you have conflict at both ends of the
Eurasian land mask Ukraine at one end, Taiwan at the other.
So we have our number one and number two geopolitical
threats in conflict. And what our only answer is to
supply weaponry. But we won't go as far as to

(10:50):
give Zelinski the okay for Poland and Germany to give
fighter jets. That's insane, because the best way to deter
ceasing is to defeat Vladimir Putin. There is, according to rumors,
a vice Foreign Minister of China in Moscow right now

(11:11):
talking about Sijumping's anticipated visit to the Russian capital, and
February twenty fourth, the one year anniversary of the invasion,
is coming up. There are suggestions, and this is just rumors,
that there are suggestions that Sijumping will be there at
or around that time to announce a enhanced relationship with Russia. Remember,

(11:34):
on February fourth of last year, China and Russia announced
their no Limits partnership. That was twenty days before the invasion.
We're going to see something similar, I think in the
not too distant future sometime this month. Quick break, we'll
come right back, will continue toll free. It's eight hundred
nine four one, Sean. If you want to be a
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(11:55):
other side than your calls coming up. We'll get to
your phone calls here in a minute, eight hundred nine
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a part of the program. But first we continue with
Gordon Chang, who's with us, author of the Coming Collapse
of China and the Great US China Tech War. Do
you believe that? Explain the thinking behind this balloon. You know,

(12:16):
they knew it was probably going to be identified. They
clearly controlled it. We had the best opportunity to take
it out when they first identified it over Alaska, they
didn't do so. Then through Canada, then into Idaho, then
across Montana right over our ICBM missile sites. What's going
on here A couple things. First of all, they're gathering

(12:38):
valuable intelligence that they can't get from satellites or other means,
and so Na Navart needs to go to school on
spy operations. But the second thing, there are a number
of different explanations as to why they did this. And
we don't know what the answer is, and we may
not know for quite some time. But the options are

(12:59):
this is an intimate move to tell the world that
the US is incapable of defending its own airspace, so
as to tell the rest of the world that they've
got to leave the US and work with China. That's
one possibility. Second possibility is the Chinese military, which is
very strong politically inside the Communist Party, so says we're
going to do this and we don't care what it

(13:19):
has effect on our relations, which the United States. And
the third possibility is that there are some elements in
the Chinese regime that wanted to derail Secretary of State
Anthony B. Lincoln's anticipated trip to Beijing, which was scheduled
for the fifth or the sixth. So you know, at
this particular time, I can't tell you which of those
options are. I can give you a guess, but any

(13:43):
of those options could be true. But the point is
none of these options are good. Also, of these options
point to it extremely dangerous China that probably wants to
go to war with the United States, and that means
they're thinking that they can take us, and because we're
longer they're not thinking that we're going to defend ourselves.

(14:03):
But I can't. But this can't be any type of
conventional war. I mean, I've got to believe that it's
going to be technology versus technology. Who has the superior technology. Yes,
and it also may not stay conventional. We you know,
we sort of think, well, you know, wars will stay
you know, just conventional. But the Chinese have actually been

(14:26):
threatening to use their nuclear weapons against the United States,
against Japan, against Australia, against the rest of the world.
They ramped up their threats to use their nukes after
Putin started making his new threats with regard to Ukraine
early last year. So these regimes are learning from each other,
and when one makes a threat, the others make threats.

(14:47):
So you had, for instance, North Korea about six or
seven months ago, for the first time, threatened to use
their nuclear weapons preemptively. We had never heard that from
North Korea before, but they did that because they heard
the Russians talk about preemptively using their tactical nuclear weapons.
So this is getting very, very dangerous because these regimes

(15:09):
are getting courage from each other, false courage, but courage less.
It's what you're describing as a doomsday almost like scenario.
It's pretty chilling. We appreciate you being with us. Gordon Chang,
thank you. Eight hundred nine one, Shawn is our number.
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Warren is in Idaho. Did you see the big, beautiful
balloon flying above your state? You know, Sean, I wish

(16:59):
I could have seen it. We did see the pictures
coming from Montana, for sure, but just knowing it was
close to us is quite interesting. It's a little more
than interesting to me. It's a little chilling to me.
It's a little and on another side of this, it's embarrassing.
I think to the entire country where the United States
of America, they say they knew this thing was flying

(17:21):
over Alaska long before it got to your state of Idaho,
long before it got to Montana, long before it made
its way to North Carolina and then off the coast
to North Carolina and getting shot down, and they didn't
do a thing. And you know, they could tell us
all they want. We have the capability of jamming, disabling.
What did they know? How do they possibly know what technology,

(17:44):
maybe new technology might have been in that you know
Chinese balloon, well exactly. And like you've been saying, the
Biden family regime is so compromised that they probably got
a call and said, don't shoot that down. That's out.
And I listened to the ACLJ last week and Rick
Grnell they said they had their capabilities to take it

(18:07):
down without destroying it. So why did they not find
out what weather balloons carry? Pieces that are the size
of a couple of school bus I think you're you're
raising phenomenal questions. And I think Rick Grnell is right.
That was my first option if you were listening on Friday,
is to go up there, get the balloon and take
it down. And I don't see how something sixty thousand

(18:31):
feet in the air. If we can send people to
the moon and they can land and they can walk
around and fly back home, I would think you can
grab a balloon that's sixty sixty five thousand, you know,
at sixty sixty five thousand feet and take it back
home to Earth. I think we should be capable of
that absolutely, or even if it's if it's up there,

(18:51):
we would have the capability of rerouting it if it's
not blown, if it's being blown by the wind, why
wouldn't we not be able to reroute it. I think
it's a try. I'll run for maybe an EMP attack
and Biden and them would let it right in. I
mentioned that earlier. It's it's pretty scary to me. That
is a real possibility, and you better consider that if

(19:11):
you know the electromagnetic you know attack is what you're
talking about, and that would knock out, you know, pretty
much all of the country's communication abilities and God only
knows what else. Yeah, but where the I CBS stations
are now over there? Yeah? Good point? All right, my friend,
thank you for being there. Great observations. Uh, let's say

(19:32):
hi to Matt North Carolina. Matt, how are you? How
are you showing? Glad to speak with you? Thank you
great to speak. Did you watch the beautiful balloon gets
shot down in your state? Well, I'll watched it go
over my house. So did you take a sling shot
at least give a shot at it. Uh No, I
know the old Stewards a little bit too much for that.

(19:53):
But thoughts on this, and largely this is due to
I worked and lived in and out of for eight
years and I'm very familiar with the way they think,
how they see us, you know, from a lot of
different perspectives. In my opinion, I think what this was
was essentially two things. I think it was an intentional,

(20:17):
intentional incursion number one, and secondly that it was, you know,
a test run to see where they could go with this,
how they could guide this, whether it would go where
they wanted to go. This is preemptively, I think, due
to the fact that the payloads that these can carry
are virtually unlimited. It could be a bioweapon payload underneath.

(20:41):
It could be a bioweapons within the balloon itself, hoping
that they would shoot it down and then thereby spread
the bioweapon emp as you mentioned before, or explosives, any
of those are possibilities for future purposes. The fact that
they didn't shoot it down over the Aleutian Islands in
Alaska is believable when we know we had that capability.

(21:02):
But I think their first and very most priority should
have been in the fact of bringing it down safely
so that they could completely dis someone and examine it. Well,
I'm hoping they can recover it, first of all. I
have faith that hopefully they get some of it, if
not all of it, and then maybe that'll put to
rest this nonsense that people are saying this was oh,

(21:24):
this was probably not used for nefarious purposes. And when
I hear that, I'm thinking, you people are so dumb,
so naive, and if you're right, it's just a lucky guess.
The Communist Chinese have made it very, very clear that
they are not our friends, you know what, because if
they were our friends, they wouldn't be pushing their fent

(21:44):
and all to the southern border in the massive quantities
that they're pushing it down there. If they were really
our friends, they would have given the world heads up
on COVID, especially when they shut down travel out of
Wuhan to any other part of China. But they didn't
shut down travel from Wuhan to the rest of the world.
That tells me that the Communist Chinese knew that to

(22:06):
protect their own country, but not the rest of the world.
And so that's frustrating too liberally. That was done deliberately.
I was in Wuhan, China when they released the first virus.
I was right down the street working from that lab,
and I know that it was done deliberately at that point.
And the funny thing that I thought was amusing was

(22:26):
that these the same excuse as the wet market the
second time around as they did the first time around.
But leave was done because they had to do something
to disrupt the elections with Trump and add to that
chaos that ensued after that. I firmly believe that China
thinks that they are going to go ahead and attack Taiwan,
and I think that'll be before the end of twenty

(22:48):
twenty four. I wouldn't be surprised at any point that
that happens. I think they've been showing nothing but clear aggression,
and they have been very aggressive in warning the United
States to pull back from our alliance with Taiwan, which
I don't think we should do. You can't allow any
country to bully you. But Hannity, they've got nuclear weapons. Well,

(23:10):
if that's the answer that anybody that has nuclear weapons
gets to get us to stand down, and we don't
remind them that we have the same threat back. That
was an ideal situation, no, but it has a name,
and it actually was successful during the Cold Wall War,
and that's called mutually a short destruction and it served

(23:30):
as they deterred, if you attack us, we will hit
you back ten times harder. And unfortunately, it's an evil
world and evil people seem to only understand one thing,
and that's military strength when you're dealing with countries, It's
exactly true. But they want to continue to interfere with everything,
and they want they're determined to take Taiwan. That's been very,

(23:52):
very clear for a number of years. Just as Gordon
Shane was stating, he knows this. I admire him tremendously.
He's a great brain on all this subject, far better
than I am. But I am familiar with them and
how they think and what they think and what their
goals are. And their goal is to take Taiwan, and
they're going to do that. And I think that our

(24:14):
response is, you know, if Biden is in office in
his administration, I think that that is a great, great
grave danger to us because I don't think that they
will hardly step up to do anything. I don't think
Biden will lift a finger, and I think we're far
too dependent on China, and that is something we were

(24:34):
beginning to resolve after COVID towards the end of the
Trump administration, but we never fully got there. The one
thing Trump did get never got a lot of credit for,
was the fact that he was the single best negotiator
and got the best trade deal that anybody had ever
gotten in history with China. And the reason it worked

(24:55):
is he put real tariffs on the importation of Chinese goods,
which worked because they want our dollars. Anyway, Matt, very informed. Call,
appreciate it. Glad you're out there. Aaron in Colorado? Aaron,
you're next. How are you? How are you doing, Sean?
I'm good, sir. I hope you had a good week up.

(25:15):
I did. But that was not a spy balloon. That
was just aerial photography of every Chinese property up there
in the North indud Dakotas and all the way up
to sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. So I think you're being
a wise ass, but you're very funny. Am I wrong?
I try? Look, you know the fact that some people,

(25:35):
some people are so quick to just dismiss this. I
believe the Communist Chinese this was for meteoro meteorological reasons.
I'm like, what's that? They were just taking pictures of
the things they own in the Dakotas. The property is
sixteen hundred Pennsylvania own it. They They seem knowing a lot,
don't they? Yeah, and wouldn't I think what has to

(25:56):
come out of this? And everyone's gonna think it's political.
It's not about political, It's about national security. To me
is I think we need a complete full disclosure from
the Bidens and maybe you can be classified for now,
and that would be any and all financial dealings that

(26:17):
anyone in the Biden family has had, is involved in
currently or benefiting from financially in the past or present,
or perhaps down the line in the future as part
of a previous deal with the Communist Chinese. I want
to know the extent of their business dealings with China,
and hopefully we'll get to the bottom of that with

(26:39):
Jim Comer in the House Oversight Committee. I think we
have a right to know all of it. Anyway, good
call Aaron God blush a man. Let's say, how to
Bill of New Joysey, what's up Bill of New Joysey.
How are you? How are you doing? I'm from Jersey.
You from Jersey anywhe not from Jersey? How are you doing?
I know you're not. I'm doing good, but I'm actually

(27:00):
from South Jersey. Still got a slight Southern accent, but
compared to North Jersey. And what I was thinking is
with the cobalt mines and then all the other money
they got for their institutions. If you add it up,
that's over almost five billion dollars that the Bidens and
Bidens have gotten from the Chinese for other people in

(27:22):
themselves and kickbacks from it. It's like as soon as
he said, don't shoot it down, they're waiting for the
White House. I knew damn well that he is compromised
by the Chinese. I already knew it ahead of time
because of what you have uncovered, because you're a hero.
As far as I'm concerned, what's out there is because
of you and people like you that are are getting

(27:46):
the truth out, you know. And it's funny even with
the raid on Mary Laga, right, they did that on
purpose because they knew that that laptop was going to
let out a bunch of information and about the top
secret stuff that Biden had all over the place, and
they wanted to try to compare it. And I know

(28:08):
that's true because right away they're lying and saying Trump
had three Chinese balloons come over when he was president.
You know, it's it's you know, it's like, how dare
you put a twenty year moratorium on covalt in his
country at the same time you're selling the most expensive

(28:28):
mine in the world in Africa. You're getting it sold
to the Chinese. I mean, he's obviously bought and sold
by him. The guy is a trader, he's a spy
for the Chinese government. When is somebody I want to
know if he's compromised? Why why would any president who
depleted our strategic petroleum reserves? You answer this question? Why

(28:49):
would that president want to now why would he be
battling Republicans that want to prevent that from happening. Why
would you want to give the limited reserves we have
that are meant for a merger agencies in this country?
Why would you want to sell those reserves to the
communist Chinese? Can you explain that? Because that makes no
sense to me. I can explain it. He is compromised.

(29:10):
Out of that five plus billion dollars, he's probably sitting
on at least two and a half billion of it,
and to do what they want. He doesn't have a
choice because he is a spy for the Chinese government.
Bottom line, bottom line, There's no way around it. And
I don't know if he's a spy. I think he's compromised,

(29:31):
and I think that makes a big, big difference. Yeah, compromised.
But at the same time he's hurting our national security
to benefit himself. The crime family is bigger than any
crime family financially that has probably ever existed. Just the
billions that he's been taken in with his family is
like unbelievable. And any time I get a quick pro

(29:55):
quo from somebody, I'm going to say, I just did
abideen you know on you know, it's like something like
the gas company does me a favor, gets a gas
line to a house quicker than I expect. I'm going
to say, well, I let them use the property to
put some of their equipment here, so I did a biden.
You know, that's got to be a new narrative. It's
like any time anybody does your favor, you say well,

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I talked him into it. I did a Biden. Well,
because let me tell you what. Let me tell you
what the media wants to focus on. They want to
focus on, believe it or not, Stormy Daniels again. They
want to they want to focus on another New York
trial against Donald Trump on his finances. They Meanwhile, you
got the fent and All problem, You've got horrible trade deals,

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you don't have answers on COVID, you have an unbelievable
intellectual property theft. Now we have spy balloons, and I'm
convinced it was a spy balloon, you know, flying over
our country. And they are belligerent, they are aggressive, and
they have done nothing but showed hostility towards us and

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our ally Taiwan and lecturing us about what our relationship
with our allies should be like. Um, that doesn't sound
like a friendly nation to me. And you see how
they treat their own people. You see the slave labor
all throughout China. You see the treatment of the minority
weager community in China. I'm telling you this, this is bad.

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