November 12, 2025 • 28 mins
Sean Hannity leads a high-stakes discussion with Bill O'Reilly, diving into recent Democratic election results, migration out of blue states, and Senator Schumer's leadership. Hannity frames the nationwide dissatisfaction with Democratic policies especially in New York and New Jersey while O'Reilly argues demographic shifts and economic hardship are key factors in recent GOP losses. The conversation also highlights O'Reilly's recent media blitz, including a memorable appearance on Bill Maher, and his #1 bestseller Confronting Evil. With sharp disagreements and friendly wagers on the future of New York politics, this bold exchange captures why these shifting trends matter for 2024 and beyond.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, Leonard skinnered simple man. That could only mean
one thing on this radio program, and that is all
things self proclaimed simple man and Lido. What does that mean?
All things Bill O'Reilly. That means all things Bill O'Reilly
dot com. By the way, number one New York Times bestseller,
Confronting Evil, Assessing the worst of the worst. Mister O'Reilly, Sarah,
(00:24):
I've got two topics that we are going to get
into today. First, did I or did I not warn
you you're wasting your time going on Bill Maher's show.
Did I not warn you?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, that was your opinion, But boy I got a
lot of currency.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Out of that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
All right, Well you know your definition of currency, am I?
It's all right. Let me play one segment and then
I'm gonna go over your analysis of the election, which
I usually we are in full sync agreement, and I'm
going to tell you why I think you're wrong in
the nice way because we're friends and we can have
a discussion. But here's part of the discussion that you
(01:01):
had with Bill Maher.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I watched your program, and you are disenchanted and correct
me if I'm wrong, which I very rarely am, so
you probably won't.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Have to do that.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You're disenchanted with the far left wing of the Democratic parties, okay,
because you believe that it's poisoned the well for everybody else,
like the congressman here, because they never met anything that
was counterintuitive that they didn't love. Right, So they want
to put trans people in here, and they want to
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do this, and it just dilutes the message that the
Democratic Party has traditionally had that we're for the workers,
we want to improve the lives of the backbone of
the country. Now you're into all this fringe garbage that
Americans don't want. I think that's your posture, and I
wouldn't put it that way, but go ahead, okay, but
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you might want to rethink because that's a good way
to put it. Well, I'm still on the air and
you're not, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I expect you that, all right. First, I gotta tip
my hat to you. I thought you were very funny,
very glib. I tipped my hat to you. Did a
great job. But the problem when you debate a comedian,
and and there's something about Mare I like. I think
there's a level of honesty in him and John Stewart
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that does not exist in the rest of these late
night comics and like John Stewart just deviscerated Democrats on
the shutdown. Here's here's my point, though, is that it
just for me. I'm like as well as you did.
I'm like, why you have to fly out to California?
(02:51):
Why now? If he would go to your place, I
could see, you know, maybe doing it in that environment.
But the crowd is on an You won them over
more than I thought you would. You have this side
of you that enjoys getting pounded by the opposition.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But I didn't just pounded. The joust was went my
way and as you pointed out, the crowd which was
his crowd at the end, they were my crowd. But
I didn't even care about that. The reason I went
to the West Coast was to sell Confronting Evil, so
we did Mark.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, it's already a number one New York Times bestseller.
I mean, you already have been crushing it. What's all
in that book? Because it honestly, because it's a great book.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I read a cover to cover, thank you, and I
have an obligation and I take it seriously to My
publisher pays me a lot of money to sell as
many books as I can. That's what I do. But
I did Howie Mandel, I did Dana Carvey, I did
Billy Bush. I did all of these programs in a
day and a half and it went all over the
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world and on Billowilly dot com. We as you know,
at premium membership through the roof because we can't reach everybody,
particularly people who don't agree with us our point of
view on life through our own vehicles. You have to
go into the enemy camp. And I'm pretty confident I
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can hold my own with anyone. So anyway, that's why
I did it. It worked our way. I thought it
was worthy, it was entertaining. It's not the Hannity radio program,
but you know that's the top, so I go down
from there.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
All right, So now let's go to your analysis of
election day, because you were very, very very critical of
the losses that took place. And here's my argument back
to you. If you read the New York Post yesterday,
it had that New York over two million New Yorkers
have fled in the last number of years. You had
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in the last three years. Is he a quarter of
a million people have left? Over five hundred thousand have
left in recent years, and that's from the last election
that Chitarelli came very close to winning. He got one
hundred and fifty thousand more votes than he did the
last time. I would argue all of those people that
left would have been inclined to vote for Chitdarelli, not
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for Mikey Cheryl. And so migration has played a very,
very big role in shaping making these these these blue states,
deep blue states, even deeper blue. And I don't think
there's any coming back from it. And you seem to
think that in what is a typical off year election
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cycle where we were expected to win nothing, And I
would argue that the one outlier four years ago was
Glenn Younkin. But it was a great candidate, way of
super above average, and the issues and the timing could
not have been more perfect for him and win. Some
is I did not feel round a good campaign, So
I'm trying to understand why anything surprised you on.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Election night didn't surprise me. My analysis is based on
going forward. So I made three essential points. Number one
that the vote last week doesn't have anything to do
with the midterms coming a year from now. On November third,
twenty twenty six, because it'll be a completely different country.
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Then that's how fast things are moving in America. Number Two,
that the reason the Jersey thing shifted, and you make
an excellent point about demographics, is because of high prices
in the Northeast, particularly for insurance and not all food,
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but a lot of food. And if you look at
and study the exit Polly in Jersey, the Republicans lost
a lot of Hispanic votes and those are working class votes.
We're having trouble now with the exorbitant amount of insurance
premiums they're being facing. The Republics have got to deal
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with that. And the third analysis was that when you
have a system where people are angry, and there were
two drivers of that anger, what was the government shut down?
And people didn't understand it and they didn't really know
what the Democrats were doing by manipulating Obamacare this way.
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They didn't understand it. And not be as supercilly as
or arrogant, they just didn't get it. But they were
angry about that, and they were angry about paying a
lot for hamburgers. And when you have anger, the incumbents
always take it. Those are the three points that I made.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Okay, so you acknowledge what I'm telling you. And here's
where the country is going to change dramatically is when
we have the next census data come in, which is
twenty thirty, which will pack to twenty thirty two election,
You're going to see a dramatic decrease in electoral votes
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in blue states because they have driven people out. I
believe in the end, Mamdani's going to drive people out.
There are more JP Morgan Chase. Is there any more
identifiable with New York City than JP Morgan? There are
more employees in the state of Texas than there are
in New York City. You heard you know JB. You
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heard the head of Goldman Sachs. They're building out an
eight hundred thousand square foot facility Citadel Ken Griffin, multi
multi billionaire. He is headquartered in my free state of Florida.
Every major bank, every private equity firm, every Wall Street
firm now has major office space in South Florida. Period
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end of sentence. That migration now that Mamdani has been
elected is only going to accelerate. And I would argue
it's going to happen in New Jersey. It's going to
continue to happen in California, It's going to continue to
happen in Illinois. What's going to happen. We're gonna have
a census this time. We're not going to include the
illegal immigrants. And guess what, You're going to see a
massive change in terms of the electoral map in this country.
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There might not be a need for a future Republican
candidate to sweep the blue wall to win the election.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, you're looking at a lot. I mean, I think
that Hogel in New York is going to lose to
uh Stephonic next November, and that will stop a little
of the hemorrhaging here. I think Mandanni is going to fail.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Will your dreaming? I am as of today, and I
love Elie Devonic. I think she will make it close.
I think pathy Holkle is hated. But as of now,
odds are that Democrats win that election because if if
in fact, she does what I expect, which will be
to capitulate to Mamdani and give give him what he
wants to get his support, he will he will drive
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out the vote in the city that will overcut all
of the rest of the state that would vote against her.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I see it differently. I don't think that. If you
look at the vote in New York, half of the
voters didn't show up. Half registered voters didn't vote in
a mayor or election, if you can imagine that, And
that's going to go down and down and down and
down because you have low awareness voters. But in the
rest of the state, people are shut up. And I
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think that a good campaign is going to dethrone her
because she's going to be attached to Mandan who's going
to fail in a very spectacular way. There's not going
to be a quiet failure here. There's going to be
a blood in the street failure. And once people see
that non ID logs, and that's most Americans, they're going
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to recoil again.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, you're basically saying that the people that were perfectly
fine with the summer of twenty twenty riots, five hundred
and seventy four of them where dozens of Americans were
killed and thousands of injured and billions in property damage,
and they didn't care one lick. You're telling me that
all of a sudden, uh, they're not at that base
is not going to be embolden. Everybody that was going
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to vote against Mamdani went out. They did, and a
lot of them switched from Curtis to Cuomo, thinking all right, well,
so combined Mamdanni be Curtis and Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Correct because they were bad candidates. But I'm telling you
that the people who ordinarily wouldn't bother with politics, I.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Don't think they were bad. Cat Well, I think Culomo's
damage from his previous tenure as governor. I think cat
I think I think the problem is is that New
York is so radical left that this is this is
what you would expect as an outcome.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I didn't look if you had a charismatic independent running
against Mandanni, I think it would have been. But you didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Who like a Bloomberg?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh see, Andrew Cuomo always looked like a vampire out there.
And Curtis, who you know. Look, I like Curtis and
I agree with what he is point of view is,
but he just didn't have it. But anyway, I think
that that the worst things get it.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It doesn't ate the simple math bill. There's no Republican
that can be mayor of New York City. It's not
happening in our lifetime. It's over.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I listen, I'll put big money on this for you.
I think the Republicans will take Albany and that'll turn
things around. But here's the most important thing.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I'll take that bet today. How much do you want
to go in for bell?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You want to go ten grand to your best charity?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Done?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'm in Okay, everybody.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Marked this market. Listen, But I'll say that nothing would
make me happier than to give money. I know you
know we both are aligned with a lot of charities.
Nothing would make me happier than to cut you that check,
and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But I'm going to tell you that there's a lot
of anger in the air. And if President Trump can
turn the economy in the next three or four months
into a much more favorable price.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Situation second quarter of next year, if he does it
by then, it's a game changer for the midterms.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's everything, And that's okay in fact New York City.
That will let me tell you what.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Listen, go look at what the date that Reagan passed
his tax plan. It was too late into his first
term to have any discernible impact that people felt in
the economy, and he lost twenty six seats in the midterm.
He came back two years later, the economy turned around,
twenty one million new jobs, longest period of peacetime economic growth.
He won forty nine out of fifty states. And once
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the economy turns, we have all of the manufacturing, the
trillions of manufacturing that is going to get online, energy,
money online, largest tax cuts in history. Reagan doubled revenue,
cutting taxes. It's all going to get. It's all got
to click hit at once, and we'll have a new
fed share.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's the hope for the Republican Party and for President
Trump's legacy that it has to kick in. I would
say by April. The trends are that way down. On
the No Spin News tonight, about every blanket product you
could think of in the grocery store, and seventy five
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percent of them are down.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
All right, quick break, right back, all things simple man,
Bill O'Reilly on the other side. Then we'll get to
your calls eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if
you want to be a part of the program, I
want to get to the bottom with Bill O'Reilly here
on this issue. Apparently he was invited on what is
the name of Bill Marris podcast? Random Okay, I've seen it,
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and he does smoke weed on the show. Just did
you smoke? Did you smoke weed with Bill Mark?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's an interesting question because he wanted me to do
his podcast in addition the show, but he smokes pot
on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You weren't going to join. You didn't want to get
a contact high.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, as you know, Hannity and I have listening audience
doesn't know this. We don't drink or take drugs. We're
not in that world at all.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And Trump is I don't think you don't drink at all.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Right, No, but I've never seen you buzzed.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, I'm really I can drink, you know, And I
don't really feel it. I mean, I have this weird
reaction that nobody else has, but I don't really bother that.
What's the point. I remember being at dinner once and
at the dinner was you President Trump, Mark Levin, the
great one, thank me, God bless us, another mutual friend
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of ours, and Heraldo and we all had dinner together
and the only people that had a glass of wine
was me and Heraldo. And I looked around the table
you might recall this, and I said, none of you
drink too? And you all said no, and I said,
of all the people in the world that I know
that really probably should drink, it's all four of you.
And I think it got a little chuckle out of everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah. And then Roll though, got naked and ran around
a white house.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I think he did something I don't remember. I don't recall.
I was not a part of any of it. Anyway,
Bill O'Reilly, all things, simple man, all things o'reiley Billoreilly
dot com. Bill, we appreciate you. Thanks having me all right,
simple man, Bill O'Reilly going where most people wouldn't there
go who's conservative anyway, although I give him a lot
of credit for doing that. All right, let's get to
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our busy phones, Meg and my free state of Florida.
Meg high, how are you? Thanks for checking in? Glad
you called.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yes, Thanks, Sean. I just wanted to say as much
as I love you, and I really do, and I'm
glad you're here in Florida. Please stop inviting people here
because you are all pricing us. All the New Yorkers
are pricing as natives and people who have been here
for like thirty years, like right out.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I hate to tell you, it's just the if you've
been here and you're a native. And I've had property
now in Florida, I probably going on thirty years myself. Right,
I've always wanted to be down here. Just was a
matter of timing and where I had to work and
my kids being raised and all that. No, just the opposite.
If you've been here a long time, your property values
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have skyrocketed through the roof. People have benefited financially because
of people coming. Now, registration among Republicans, you know, we're
now net advantage like one and a half million. It
used to be a purple state. Trust me, the liberals,
the left is not coming here. They're staying in their
beloved New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California. God bless them.
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Let them stay there. If you're liberals, stay where you are.
You're not allowed to come. I don't want you to come.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Let me just say we had a sinkhole property and
we had the eight years in court, A long story,
but we sold it. We're sort of remediator. We took
a break. I'm buying because it was just like, oh,
we need to break. We rented, moved closer to where
we worked, trying to get back in the market. We're
retired veterans. I'm disabled veteran. We are not finding anything
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that we could comfortably afford. It's ridiculous. And because prices
my neighbor's house with eighty nine thousand dollars five years ago,
then it went to like two hundred thousand. Now they're
selling that same nineteen fifty block construction home, three bedroom,
one bath for five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.
There's nowhere people who don't have the kind of memes
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that some people in New York haven. Let's get realistic.
New York money goes a little farther down here. What
you can sell for up there. You can still find
cheaper stuff down here in comparison, But people who live here,
with the wages we have here, if you're not making
you know, seven hundred thousand dollars a year, you're about
priced out of most of these areas.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Some let me give you some numbers, and then I
want to address your individual situation. New York lost because
of migration out of New York over five hundred and
seventeen billion, California three hundred and seventy billion, Illinois three
hundred and fifteen billion, Florida gained is the number one
gaining state with over a trillion dollars in revenues in
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terms of new income to the state. Now, with that said,
you're describing a very real problem. Now I have to
ask a couple of personal questions if I want, if
you want me to help you. However, if you don't
want to answer them, I totally understand, and man, maybe
we'll talk offline one day. But here's my question. What
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part of Florida do you live in.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
We're in the Tampa Bay metro area.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, Tampa's very expensive, Tampa clear Water. I know the
area very well. I have friends there. How close are
you to the water?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
We're pretty close, within a mile and a half. And
the reason is because we work on mcdil Air Force Base,
so we live there.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
The further out that you're a able to commute. For example,
when I first bought my first house in Long Island,
when I started at Fox, I had an hour and
a half commute each way. And the reason is I
wanted a nicer house that I could afford, and I
was willing to make that sacrifice. And I don't want you
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to travel an hour and a half to get to
work every day, then you might not be able to
based on what you do for a living. And thank
you for serving your country. Have you ever gotten your
VA loan, which I believe you get a one time
shot out. Have you guys gotten that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
We have and you don't necessarily get a one time shot.
And we lived at the time there was a thirty
minute commute. We actually lived in Pasco County for ten years.
That one who the sinkhole home was, and we moved
down here to be closer to work because the commute
went from being thirty minutes to get down here in
the morning to taking hour an hour and a half
to two hours each way going down here and going home.
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And that's just twenty miles away. It is far worse
now than it was eight years though, when we moved
down to this part of Tampa.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, I mean the insurance company didn't make you whole
on that sinkhole house.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
No, we actually offered us one thousand dollars for a settlement,
which of course we rejected. We sued them in court.
That process took about eight years and we want our case,
but it was not enough to cover the what was
left on the house. So We actually put a lot
of it aside, gave them to the kids, you know,
stuff like that that they needed for college and stuff.
At that time, we were fine here. We thought we're
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just going to squirrel stuff away. And I'm one hundred
percent disabled veterans, so I get a little more benefit
with the V loan than some. However, looking at what's
out there to buy, we don't need a giant McMansion.
We don't need that, but we actually would happen.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You're not. You're looking for a nice home in a
safe neighborhood. Just a nice house, which you deserve and
I want you to have. I really, you know, I
know a lot about real estate, which is why I'm
getting a little in the weeds here. You know. It's
it's what your describing is unique and very challenging. It's
not unique that a lot of people bringing into the
home market. It used to be most people got their
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first home at thirty. Now it's up to forty. And
I think under President Trump, when interest rates come down,
you're going to see a huge uptick in sale of
pre existing homes and new home construction. We're down about
anywhere between four and a half to six million homes,
residences that need to be built in the country. I
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wish there was something I could do to help you
or give you some more confidence in it. I know
you probably don't want to be a lifelong renter. I
get that, but I will tell you overall, and again
you're a very specific case with the sinkhole, but generally speaking,
lifelong Floridians benefited from the influx of a trillion dollars
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in migrating money migrating money. But in your case, it
just worked against you because of the timing. In eight
years in court and a decade of my it was
just a perfect negative storm for you, which I'm so
sorry about.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Well, just one more comment, and that is true that
we have benefited in some ways, but I will tell
you there are certain areas like this area where we
live next to the base. It was I mean, these
are families who are working class families for decades back.
Most of them still live here if they haven't moved
into nursing homes or moved that or passed away. But
what's happening is homes that if you were to drive
down the neighborhood Shaw and you look at it and go, okay,
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that house might be two hundred thousand and four hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No one, I trust me. I follow real estate very closely.
I get it.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
So but I appreciate you, you know, telling people how
great we are. We are a great state. My only
other beef with people coming down here is we're building
a lot of houses quickly. We're taking up every piece
of green area. There's no more green areas really down
here in Tampa Bay anymore. Everything is pretty much house
off on housespon house. And you know you've got to
escape New York. I get it, But we have forty
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nine other states to go to.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Well, I'm not telling a going to come to Florida.
I'm just I'm just saying escape from the state you're in.
I just happen to like Florida the most. I'm obviously
I made that choice, but I think Texas is a
great option. Let me ask you one last question. Is
there any way you can get a transfer to a
base that you'd be happy at, or is family commitments
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keep you here in this area?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Family commitments? But also we're both contractors, so we actually
got the government were not active duties, so it's kind
of a matter of where our contract needs us.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Okay, Well, I'm praying for you. I hope, I hope
the right solution comes your way. And you know, there's
just there's going to be a transformation in the home industry.
I've seen it. I've met with the people that are
building it out. You're going to see most homes now
are going to be built by robotics, or at least
seventy percent of those homes, if not more. And it's
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going to drive down the costs of building in terms
of labor, which is the main cost. It's going to
be built faster and more efficiently, and then you hire
a contractor to finish out the thirty percent of it's
there is a new transformational time. AI is transforming every
single industry and it's not the future, it's today. I'm
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glad you called. I'm wishing you the best. I hope
you can turn this around and find the right solution
for you. It sounds tough, that's so. You know, you
buy a house sinkhole, you fight in court for eight years.
It's a disaster because she could have gotten another home.
In the meantime. All right, when we come back, we'll
hit the phones toll free. Our number is eight hundred
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(26:03):
with Sean.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
With Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
All right, let's head back to our busy phones. Eight
hundred and nine to four to one, Shawn, if you
want to be a part of the program, all right,
let's go to Mike in California. What's up, Mike? How
are you?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Sean, I'm glad you love me. On a couple things
I noticed I was watching Fox News this morning. They
had a map of all the states that did not
get SNAP benefits, and at a glance, something occurred to me,
And maybe you could correct me if I'm wrong, but
it looks like the Democrats were able to hold out
so long because the states that got SNAP benefits were
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all blue states California, Washington, Oregon, New York. They all
got their benefits, but the only one I.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Didn't notice that states were bifurcated out that way. My
understanding was that you know, when they first cut they
were able to pay half the normal benefit to everybody.
And I you know, I didn't see that any one
state was cut off completely. I thought every state just
got half their benefits. That's what I had read.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
No, No, in full, in full disclosure. I'm in California
and I'm a retired veteran.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I got my sir in full in full.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Night, okay. And when I saw that map this morning,
it dawned on me that the reason the Democrats were
able to hold out so long is they, for all
their blusters, their people were not affected.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They were you know what, I'll the good news is,
I'm hoping. I mean, there's no guarantee. I mean, there
is still some mystery, well know tonight when I'm on
the air, whether this thing is going to get through
the House. The margins the majority Republicans have is small.
And you know, if I had to guess, Marjorie Taylor Green,
Tom Massey are not going to vote for this new
(28:21):
CR And if they don't, that's I think they can
lose two. Now, some Democrats may cross over, if they're smart,
they will and they'll buck their party leadership. But we'll see,
you know. But anything can happen, and I pray to
God we get this open. It's really the longest in history. Democrats,
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for what reason, never made sense from the beginning. Anyway,
my friend, thank you. Eight and nine four one. Shaw
is on number
All right, Leonard skinnered simple man. That could only mean
one thing on this radio program, and that is all
things self proclaimed simple man and Lido. What does that mean?
All things Bill O'Reilly. That means all things Bill O'Reilly
dot com. By the way, number one New York Times bestseller,
Confronting Evil, Assessing the worst of the worst. Mister O'Reilly, Sarah,
(00:24):
I've got two topics that we are going to get
into today. First, did I or did I not warn
you you're wasting your time going on Bill Maher's show.
Did I not warn you?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, that was your opinion, But boy I got a
lot of currency.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Out of that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
All right, Well you know your definition of currency, am I?
It's all right. Let me play one segment and then
I'm gonna go over your analysis of the election, which
I usually we are in full sync agreement, and I'm
going to tell you why I think you're wrong in
the nice way because we're friends and we can have
a discussion. But here's part of the discussion that you
(01:01):
had with Bill Maher.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I watched your program, and you are disenchanted and correct
me if I'm wrong, which I very rarely am, so
you probably won't.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Have to do that.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You're disenchanted with the far left wing of the Democratic parties, okay,
because you believe that it's poisoned the well for everybody else,
like the congressman here, because they never met anything that
was counterintuitive that they didn't love. Right, So they want
to put trans people in here, and they want to
(01:33):
do this, and it just dilutes the message that the
Democratic Party has traditionally had that we're for the workers,
we want to improve the lives of the backbone of
the country. Now you're into all this fringe garbage that
Americans don't want. I think that's your posture, and I
wouldn't put it that way, but go ahead, okay, but
(01:55):
you might want to rethink because that's a good way
to put it. Well, I'm still on the air and
you're not, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I expect you that, all right. First, I gotta tip
my hat to you. I thought you were very funny,
very glib. I tipped my hat to you. Did a
great job. But the problem when you debate a comedian,
and and there's something about Mare I like. I think
there's a level of honesty in him and John Stewart
(02:28):
that does not exist in the rest of these late
night comics and like John Stewart just deviscerated Democrats on
the shutdown. Here's here's my point, though, is that it
just for me. I'm like as well as you did.
I'm like, why you have to fly out to California?
(02:51):
Why now? If he would go to your place, I
could see, you know, maybe doing it in that environment.
But the crowd is on an You won them over
more than I thought you would. You have this side
of you that enjoys getting pounded by the opposition.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But I didn't just pounded. The joust was went my
way and as you pointed out, the crowd which was
his crowd at the end, they were my crowd. But
I didn't even care about that. The reason I went
to the West Coast was to sell Confronting Evil, so
we did Mark.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, it's already a number one New York Times bestseller.
I mean, you already have been crushing it. What's all
in that book? Because it honestly, because it's a great book.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I read a cover to cover, thank you, and I
have an obligation and I take it seriously to My
publisher pays me a lot of money to sell as
many books as I can. That's what I do. But
I did Howie Mandel, I did Dana Carvey, I did
Billy Bush. I did all of these programs in a
day and a half and it went all over the
(03:58):
world and on Billowilly dot com. We as you know,
at premium membership through the roof because we can't reach everybody,
particularly people who don't agree with us our point of
view on life through our own vehicles. You have to
go into the enemy camp. And I'm pretty confident I
(04:20):
can hold my own with anyone. So anyway, that's why
I did it. It worked our way. I thought it
was worthy, it was entertaining. It's not the Hannity radio program,
but you know that's the top, so I go down
from there.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
All right, So now let's go to your analysis of
election day, because you were very, very very critical of
the losses that took place. And here's my argument back
to you. If you read the New York Post yesterday,
it had that New York over two million New Yorkers
have fled in the last number of years. You had
(04:57):
in the last three years. Is he a quarter of
a million people have left? Over five hundred thousand have
left in recent years, and that's from the last election
that Chitarelli came very close to winning. He got one
hundred and fifty thousand more votes than he did the
last time. I would argue all of those people that
left would have been inclined to vote for Chitdarelli, not
(05:22):
for Mikey Cheryl. And so migration has played a very,
very big role in shaping making these these these blue states,
deep blue states, even deeper blue. And I don't think
there's any coming back from it. And you seem to
think that in what is a typical off year election
(05:43):
cycle where we were expected to win nothing, And I
would argue that the one outlier four years ago was
Glenn Younkin. But it was a great candidate, way of
super above average, and the issues and the timing could
not have been more perfect for him and win. Some
is I did not feel round a good campaign, So
I'm trying to understand why anything surprised you on.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Election night didn't surprise me. My analysis is based on
going forward. So I made three essential points. Number one
that the vote last week doesn't have anything to do
with the midterms coming a year from now. On November third,
twenty twenty six, because it'll be a completely different country.
(06:29):
Then that's how fast things are moving in America. Number Two,
that the reason the Jersey thing shifted, and you make
an excellent point about demographics, is because of high prices
in the Northeast, particularly for insurance and not all food,
(06:51):
but a lot of food. And if you look at
and study the exit Polly in Jersey, the Republicans lost
a lot of Hispanic votes and those are working class votes.
We're having trouble now with the exorbitant amount of insurance
premiums they're being facing. The Republics have got to deal
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with that. And the third analysis was that when you
have a system where people are angry, and there were
two drivers of that anger, what was the government shut down?
And people didn't understand it and they didn't really know
what the Democrats were doing by manipulating Obamacare this way.
(07:32):
They didn't understand it. And not be as supercilly as
or arrogant, they just didn't get it. But they were
angry about that, and they were angry about paying a
lot for hamburgers. And when you have anger, the incumbents
always take it. Those are the three points that I made.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Okay, so you acknowledge what I'm telling you. And here's
where the country is going to change dramatically is when
we have the next census data come in, which is
twenty thirty, which will pack to twenty thirty two election,
You're going to see a dramatic decrease in electoral votes
(08:08):
in blue states because they have driven people out. I
believe in the end, Mamdani's going to drive people out.
There are more JP Morgan Chase. Is there any more
identifiable with New York City than JP Morgan? There are
more employees in the state of Texas than there are
in New York City. You heard you know JB. You
(08:29):
heard the head of Goldman Sachs. They're building out an
eight hundred thousand square foot facility Citadel Ken Griffin, multi
multi billionaire. He is headquartered in my free state of Florida.
Every major bank, every private equity firm, every Wall Street
firm now has major office space in South Florida. Period
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end of sentence. That migration now that Mamdani has been
elected is only going to accelerate. And I would argue
it's going to happen in New Jersey. It's going to
continue to happen in California, It's going to continue to
happen in Illinois. What's going to happen. We're gonna have
a census this time. We're not going to include the
illegal immigrants. And guess what, You're going to see a
massive change in terms of the electoral map in this country.
(09:14):
There might not be a need for a future Republican
candidate to sweep the blue wall to win the election.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, you're looking at a lot. I mean, I think
that Hogel in New York is going to lose to
uh Stephonic next November, and that will stop a little
of the hemorrhaging here. I think Mandanni is going to fail.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Will your dreaming? I am as of today, and I
love Elie Devonic. I think she will make it close.
I think pathy Holkle is hated. But as of now,
odds are that Democrats win that election because if if
in fact, she does what I expect, which will be
to capitulate to Mamdani and give give him what he
wants to get his support, he will he will drive
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out the vote in the city that will overcut all
of the rest of the state that would vote against her.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I see it differently. I don't think that. If you
look at the vote in New York, half of the
voters didn't show up. Half registered voters didn't vote in
a mayor or election, if you can imagine that, And
that's going to go down and down and down and
down because you have low awareness voters. But in the
rest of the state, people are shut up. And I
(10:26):
think that a good campaign is going to dethrone her
because she's going to be attached to Mandan who's going
to fail in a very spectacular way. There's not going
to be a quiet failure here. There's going to be
a blood in the street failure. And once people see
that non ID logs, and that's most Americans, they're going
(10:48):
to recoil again.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, you're basically saying that the people that were perfectly
fine with the summer of twenty twenty riots, five hundred
and seventy four of them where dozens of Americans were
killed and thousands of injured and billions in property damage,
and they didn't care one lick. You're telling me that
all of a sudden, uh, they're not at that base
is not going to be embolden. Everybody that was going
(11:11):
to vote against Mamdani went out. They did, and a
lot of them switched from Curtis to Cuomo, thinking all right, well,
so combined Mamdanni be Curtis and Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Correct because they were bad candidates. But I'm telling you
that the people who ordinarily wouldn't bother with politics, I.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Don't think they were bad. Cat Well, I think Culomo's
damage from his previous tenure as governor. I think cat
I think I think the problem is is that New
York is so radical left that this is this is
what you would expect as an outcome.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I didn't look if you had a charismatic independent running
against Mandanni, I think it would have been. But you didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Who like a Bloomberg?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh see, Andrew Cuomo always looked like a vampire out there.
And Curtis, who you know. Look, I like Curtis and
I agree with what he is point of view is,
but he just didn't have it. But anyway, I think
that that the worst things get it.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It doesn't ate the simple math bill. There's no Republican
that can be mayor of New York City. It's not
happening in our lifetime. It's over.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I listen, I'll put big money on this for you.
I think the Republicans will take Albany and that'll turn
things around. But here's the most important thing.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I'll take that bet today. How much do you want
to go in for bell?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You want to go ten grand to your best charity?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Done?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'm in Okay, everybody.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Marked this market. Listen, But I'll say that nothing would
make me happier than to give money. I know you
know we both are aligned with a lot of charities.
Nothing would make me happier than to cut you that check,
and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But I'm going to tell you that there's a lot
of anger in the air. And if President Trump can
turn the economy in the next three or four months
into a much more favorable price.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Situation second quarter of next year, if he does it
by then, it's a game changer for the midterms.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's everything, And that's okay in fact New York City.
That will let me tell you what.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Listen, go look at what the date that Reagan passed
his tax plan. It was too late into his first
term to have any discernible impact that people felt in
the economy, and he lost twenty six seats in the midterm.
He came back two years later, the economy turned around,
twenty one million new jobs, longest period of peacetime economic growth.
He won forty nine out of fifty states. And once
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the economy turns, we have all of the manufacturing, the
trillions of manufacturing that is going to get online, energy,
money online, largest tax cuts in history. Reagan doubled revenue,
cutting taxes. It's all going to get. It's all got
to click hit at once, and we'll have a new
fed share.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's the hope for the Republican Party and for President
Trump's legacy that it has to kick in. I would
say by April. The trends are that way down. On
the No Spin News tonight, about every blanket product you
could think of in the grocery store, and seventy five
(14:27):
percent of them are down.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
All right, quick break, right back, all things simple man,
Bill O'Reilly on the other side. Then we'll get to
your calls eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if
you want to be a part of the program, I
want to get to the bottom with Bill O'Reilly here
on this issue. Apparently he was invited on what is
the name of Bill Marris podcast? Random Okay, I've seen it,
(14:50):
and he does smoke weed on the show. Just did
you smoke? Did you smoke weed with Bill Mark?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's an interesting question because he wanted me to do
his podcast in addition the show, but he smokes pot
on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You weren't going to join. You didn't want to get
a contact high.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, as you know, Hannity and I have listening audience
doesn't know this. We don't drink or take drugs. We're
not in that world at all.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And Trump is I don't think you don't drink at all.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Right, No, but I've never seen you buzzed.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, I'm really I can drink, you know, And I
don't really feel it. I mean, I have this weird
reaction that nobody else has, but I don't really bother that.
What's the point. I remember being at dinner once and
at the dinner was you President Trump, Mark Levin, the
great one, thank me, God bless us, another mutual friend
(15:50):
of ours, and Heraldo and we all had dinner together
and the only people that had a glass of wine
was me and Heraldo. And I looked around the table
you might recall this, and I said, none of you
drink too? And you all said no, and I said,
of all the people in the world that I know
that really probably should drink, it's all four of you.
And I think it got a little chuckle out of everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah. And then Roll though, got naked and ran around
a white house.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I think he did something I don't remember. I don't recall.
I was not a part of any of it. Anyway,
Bill O'Reilly, all things, simple man, all things o'reiley Billoreilly
dot com. Bill, we appreciate you. Thanks having me all right,
simple man, Bill O'Reilly going where most people wouldn't there
go who's conservative anyway, although I give him a lot
of credit for doing that. All right, let's get to
(16:37):
our busy phones, Meg and my free state of Florida.
Meg high, how are you? Thanks for checking in? Glad
you called.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yes, Thanks, Sean. I just wanted to say as much
as I love you, and I really do, and I'm
glad you're here in Florida. Please stop inviting people here
because you are all pricing us. All the New Yorkers
are pricing as natives and people who have been here
for like thirty years, like right out.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I hate to tell you, it's just the if you've
been here and you're a native. And I've had property
now in Florida, I probably going on thirty years myself. Right,
I've always wanted to be down here. Just was a
matter of timing and where I had to work and
my kids being raised and all that. No, just the opposite.
If you've been here a long time, your property values
(17:21):
have skyrocketed through the roof. People have benefited financially because
of people coming. Now, registration among Republicans, you know, we're
now net advantage like one and a half million. It
used to be a purple state. Trust me, the liberals,
the left is not coming here. They're staying in their
beloved New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California. God bless them.
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Let them stay there. If you're liberals, stay where you are.
You're not allowed to come. I don't want you to come.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Let me just say we had a sinkhole property and
we had the eight years in court, A long story,
but we sold it. We're sort of remediator. We took
a break. I'm buying because it was just like, oh,
we need to break. We rented, moved closer to where
we worked, trying to get back in the market. We're
retired veterans. I'm disabled veteran. We are not finding anything
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that we could comfortably afford. It's ridiculous. And because prices
my neighbor's house with eighty nine thousand dollars five years ago,
then it went to like two hundred thousand. Now they're
selling that same nineteen fifty block construction home, three bedroom,
one bath for five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.
There's nowhere people who don't have the kind of memes
(18:32):
that some people in New York haven. Let's get realistic.
New York money goes a little farther down here. What
you can sell for up there. You can still find
cheaper stuff down here in comparison, But people who live here,
with the wages we have here, if you're not making
you know, seven hundred thousand dollars a year, you're about
priced out of most of these areas.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Some let me give you some numbers, and then I
want to address your individual situation. New York lost because
of migration out of New York over five hundred and
seventeen billion, California three hundred and seventy billion, Illinois three
hundred and fifteen billion, Florida gained is the number one
gaining state with over a trillion dollars in revenues in
(19:14):
terms of new income to the state. Now, with that said,
you're describing a very real problem. Now I have to
ask a couple of personal questions if I want, if
you want me to help you. However, if you don't
want to answer them, I totally understand, and man, maybe
we'll talk offline one day. But here's my question. What
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part of Florida do you live in.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
We're in the Tampa Bay metro area.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, Tampa's very expensive, Tampa clear Water. I know the
area very well. I have friends there. How close are
you to the water?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
We're pretty close, within a mile and a half. And
the reason is because we work on mcdil Air Force Base,
so we live there.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
The further out that you're a able to commute. For example,
when I first bought my first house in Long Island,
when I started at Fox, I had an hour and
a half commute each way. And the reason is I
wanted a nicer house that I could afford, and I
was willing to make that sacrifice. And I don't want you
(20:19):
to travel an hour and a half to get to
work every day, then you might not be able to
based on what you do for a living. And thank
you for serving your country. Have you ever gotten your
VA loan, which I believe you get a one time
shot out. Have you guys gotten that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
We have and you don't necessarily get a one time shot.
And we lived at the time there was a thirty
minute commute. We actually lived in Pasco County for ten years.
That one who the sinkhole home was, and we moved
down here to be closer to work because the commute
went from being thirty minutes to get down here in
the morning to taking hour an hour and a half
to two hours each way going down here and going home.
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And that's just twenty miles away. It is far worse
now than it was eight years though, when we moved
down to this part of Tampa.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, I mean the insurance company didn't make you whole
on that sinkhole house.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
No, we actually offered us one thousand dollars for a settlement,
which of course we rejected. We sued them in court.
That process took about eight years and we want our case,
but it was not enough to cover the what was
left on the house. So We actually put a lot
of it aside, gave them to the kids, you know,
stuff like that that they needed for college and stuff.
At that time, we were fine here. We thought we're
(21:30):
just going to squirrel stuff away. And I'm one hundred
percent disabled veterans, so I get a little more benefit
with the V loan than some. However, looking at what's
out there to buy, we don't need a giant McMansion.
We don't need that, but we actually would happen.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You're not. You're looking for a nice home in a
safe neighborhood. Just a nice house, which you deserve and
I want you to have. I really, you know, I
know a lot about real estate, which is why I'm
getting a little in the weeds here. You know. It's
it's what your describing is unique and very challenging. It's
not unique that a lot of people bringing into the
home market. It used to be most people got their
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first home at thirty. Now it's up to forty. And
I think under President Trump, when interest rates come down,
you're going to see a huge uptick in sale of
pre existing homes and new home construction. We're down about
anywhere between four and a half to six million homes,
residences that need to be built in the country. I
(22:28):
wish there was something I could do to help you
or give you some more confidence in it. I know
you probably don't want to be a lifelong renter. I
get that, but I will tell you overall, and again
you're a very specific case with the sinkhole, but generally speaking,
lifelong Floridians benefited from the influx of a trillion dollars
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in migrating money migrating money. But in your case, it
just worked against you because of the timing. In eight
years in court and a decade of my it was
just a perfect negative storm for you, which I'm so
sorry about.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Well, just one more comment, and that is true that
we have benefited in some ways, but I will tell
you there are certain areas like this area where we
live next to the base. It was I mean, these
are families who are working class families for decades back.
Most of them still live here if they haven't moved
into nursing homes or moved that or passed away. But
what's happening is homes that if you were to drive
down the neighborhood Shaw and you look at it and go, okay,
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that house might be two hundred thousand and four hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No one, I trust me. I follow real estate very closely.
I get it.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
So but I appreciate you, you know, telling people how
great we are. We are a great state. My only
other beef with people coming down here is we're building
a lot of houses quickly. We're taking up every piece
of green area. There's no more green areas really down
here in Tampa Bay anymore. Everything is pretty much house
off on housespon house. And you know you've got to
escape New York. I get it, But we have forty
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nine other states to go to.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Well, I'm not telling a going to come to Florida.
I'm just I'm just saying escape from the state you're in.
I just happen to like Florida the most. I'm obviously
I made that choice, but I think Texas is a
great option. Let me ask you one last question. Is
there any way you can get a transfer to a
base that you'd be happy at, or is family commitments
(24:19):
keep you here in this area?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Family commitments? But also we're both contractors, so we actually
got the government were not active duties, so it's kind
of a matter of where our contract needs us.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Okay, Well, I'm praying for you. I hope, I hope
the right solution comes your way. And you know, there's
just there's going to be a transformation in the home industry.
I've seen it. I've met with the people that are
building it out. You're going to see most homes now
are going to be built by robotics, or at least
seventy percent of those homes, if not more. And it's
(24:55):
going to drive down the costs of building in terms
of labor, which is the main cost. It's going to
be built faster and more efficiently, and then you hire
a contractor to finish out the thirty percent of it's
there is a new transformational time. AI is transforming every
single industry and it's not the future, it's today. I'm
(25:19):
glad you called. I'm wishing you the best. I hope
you can turn this around and find the right solution
for you. It sounds tough, that's so. You know, you
buy a house sinkhole, you fight in court for eight years.
It's a disaster because she could have gotten another home.
In the meantime. All right, when we come back, we'll
hit the phones toll free. Our number is eight hundred
(25:40):
and nine four one, Sean. If you want to be
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(26:03):
with Sean.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
With Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
All right, let's head back to our busy phones. Eight
hundred and nine to four to one, Shawn, if you
want to be a part of the program, all right,
let's go to Mike in California. What's up, Mike? How
are you?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Sean, I'm glad you love me. On a couple things
I noticed I was watching Fox News this morning. They
had a map of all the states that did not
get SNAP benefits, and at a glance, something occurred to me,
And maybe you could correct me if I'm wrong, but
it looks like the Democrats were able to hold out
so long because the states that got SNAP benefits were
(27:07):
all blue states California, Washington, Oregon, New York. They all
got their benefits, but the only one I.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Didn't notice that states were bifurcated out that way. My
understanding was that you know, when they first cut they
were able to pay half the normal benefit to everybody.
And I you know, I didn't see that any one
state was cut off completely. I thought every state just
got half their benefits. That's what I had read.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
No, No, in full, in full disclosure. I'm in California
and I'm a retired veteran.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I got my sir in full in full.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Night, okay. And when I saw that map this morning,
it dawned on me that the reason the Democrats were
able to hold out so long is they, for all
their blusters, their people were not affected.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They were you know what, I'll the good news is,
I'm hoping. I mean, there's no guarantee. I mean, there
is still some mystery, well know tonight when I'm on
the air, whether this thing is going to get through
the House. The margins the majority Republicans have is small.
And you know, if I had to guess, Marjorie Taylor Green,
Tom Massey are not going to vote for this new
(28:21):
CR And if they don't, that's I think they can
lose two. Now, some Democrats may cross over, if they're smart,
they will and they'll buck their party leadership. But we'll see,
you know. But anything can happen, and I pray to
God we get this open. It's really the longest in history. Democrats,
(28:42):
for what reason, never made sense from the beginning. Anyway,
my friend, thank you. Eight and nine four one. Shaw
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