January 16, 2025 • 31 mins
Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan, joins us here today to talk about the pardons we should expect in the final days of “No Show Joe” - and while Joe attempted to use words and say goodbye, the House Judiciary Committee was releasing the transcripts related to the investigation surrounding Hunter and the Big Guy. Imagine that, transparency.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, well, come in.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Then tell.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
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I come along.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
What might to pardon myself for?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
No, I have no contemplation pardon myself.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
End there.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Let's just get the facts and let's get them out quickly.
Let's stop the finger pointing. Let's just assess the truth.
I'm not interested in who's to blame.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I want to know what happened.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
I have prided myself as a leader of respecting people,
being professional.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
That is the balance of mind.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm not a perfect person.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
As is been acknowledged, saved by the grace of God,
by Jesus and Jenny.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Freedom is back in style. Welcome to the revolution.
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Speaker 6 (01:20):
Donald Trump will be sworn in as the forty seventh
President of the United States, and with it comes an
entirely different cabinet philosophy, ideology. It's interesting to watch all
of these these confirmation hearings. I think one of the
more interesting ones today Scott Bessent is as Treasury Secretary.
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I mean, he just schooled Democrats on the economy. It
was that was pretty entertaining to watch. I thought Pam
Bondy had a particularly great performance. She didn't take crap
from anybody. And what really comes out of this is
that all that they have done by abuse the Department
of Justice and weaponizing it and politicizing our intelligence community
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and politicizing the FBI, it is amazing to watch people
that sat by idly and silently all these years and
allowed this all to unfold and to happen. Their great
fear is that what they did to Donald Trump and
the people around him would be done to them. I mean,
that's what all of this comes down to. I mean,
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for Pam Bondy to remind the congenital liar conspiracy theorist
Adam Schiff that he was the one that had a
censor by Congress. It was pretty amazing, and pointing out
that seventy two percent of Americans have lost faith in
the Department of Justice, and robberies in his state are
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eighty seven percent higher than the national average, and I
found that particularly entertaining. Blumenthal implied that Bondy was lot
was lying. This is a guy that lied about serving
in Vietnam. That became pretty entertaining as well, Senator Rano
during the hearing, you know, as nominees slamming, you know,
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Pam Bondi slammed the Senator during the hearing for refusing
a courtesy call, which I thought when that went pretty
viral actually by the end of the day. And you know,
she is being very very clear as this steady. I mean,
she was the Attorney General of Florida for two terms.
She was elected by one of the whitest margins ever.
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And this is before Florida was as readed as it
is now. And she vowed that there will never be
an enemy's list, and she throws down, you know, with
a lot of these people. She flipped the script on
Senator white House on the you know, suggesting that she
will weaponize the Department of Justice, and you mean you
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mean like with Donald Trump anyway. Now we are officially
on preemptive pardon watch. Names that keep getting circulated. Jim
Biden's name, Joe's brother. We keep hearing about Liz Cheney,
we keep hearing about Benny Thompson, we keep hearing about
Anthony Fauci. I would not be surprised if all of
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these people end up getting a preemptive pardon. We'll talk
to Congressman Jim Jordan in a second. But here's Joe
Biden saying that he's not going to pardon himself. And
also remember Biden and Kareem Jean Pierre that repeatedly they'd
never pardon Hunter Biden, and of course they did.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
And also, sir, have you ruled.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Out a pardon for yourself or any other additional members
of the family. For myself, yes, sir, what what I
pardon myself for? That's what I'm asking No, I have
no contemplation to pardoning myself for and that I didn't
do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter
what it is.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yes, And have you ruled out a pardon for your son? Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You have.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Does the president have any intention.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Of pardoning him? We've been asked that question multiple times.
Our answer stands, which is, now, is there any possibility
that the president would end up pardoning his son? You know,
I just said no, and I.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Am satisfied that I'm not going to do anything. If
I said, I by the jury decision and I will
do that and I'll not pardon him.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I can speak for the president and he said he
would not pardon his son, and I'm just going to
leave it there, leave it there, and then of course
he ends up pardoning his son. He is the chairman
of the very important House Judiciary Committee. They've done phenomenal
work exposing the weaponization of justice in America. Jim Jordan
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is with us. Refresh my memory. Didn't Joe Biden say
that he never once talked to his son, as brother
or anybody about their foreign business deals. And didn't he
leverage a billion taxpayer dollars to get the prosecutor in
Ukraine fired who was investigating his son and the big
energy giant. And isn't there a WhatsApp message with the
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energy giant in China called CEFC where Hunter claims he's
sitting next to his father, and that they'd be pretty
much held to pay if they didn't pony up money
and wasn't money delivered within days after that exchange.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
All that is all that is accurate, Not to mention
the dinners, the other dinners he showed up to with
folks from CFC and of course with Varisma. It was
leveraging your tax money, sewan your listener's tax money, American
tax dollars he used American tax dollars, held that up
and said, unless you fire the guy who's putting the
pressure on the company, my son sits on the board
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of where I got a call from my son a
few days ago talking about this suson, unless you do that,
you're not getting the money, and shazam, the guy got fired.
So yeah, he definitely wag in.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And on Hunter's laptop.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Doesn't he refer to multiple occasions where money is that
he was making with no apparent services or skill set
for money from a Russian oligarch, money from Barisma, running
money from CEFC Kazakhstan, and et cetera. Doesn't Hunter implicate
his own father saying half his income goes to pops.
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Didn't he have exhaustive exchanges with his accountant about which
account they were going to take his money out of
to pay for pops home repairs. And weren't there multiple
images now that we have of Joe and Hunter with
their foreign business partners.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Am I wrong on any of that?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Not wrong on any of that? Again, I always use
a barifan example because I think it's the most distinct one.
Hunter Biden gets put on the board. Hunter Biden wasn't
qualified to be on the board. He told us so himself.
The head of the company asked Hunter Biden keny way
and with your dad to relieve the pressure we are
under from the prosecutor in Ukraine. Hunter Biden calls his
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father the big guy. And then a few days later,
as I said, he leverages American text dollars to get
accomplished exactly what he's not asking him to accomplish, that capsule.
And then there's all those other examples you described, which
shows how this thing operates, which tells me that the
pardons aren't probably going to just end with Hunter Biden.
It's probably going to go to his brother Jim Biden
as well. And then who knows what else he does
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relative to Minnie Thompson, doctor Falci, Loz Cheney, Adam Shipp,
all the other people who've been mentioned for this amazing
new thing called preempted partners.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Okay, so my next question for you is if I
did any of these things, or Donald Trump did any
of these things, what is the likelihood that that would
be investigated as a possible crime.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Of course it would be because when you don't do
things wrong, you get investigated, you and you get censored.
You've been censored by the left coming after you. That
they've they've done that President Trump, what they've done to
him for doing nothing wrong. Maybe go Cole back to
go back eight years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
They fight on his campaign.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Then it was Mueller, then it was impeachment. Then it's
the foreign diictments to state to federal, then it's the
raid on his home. Then it's trying to use the
fourteenth Amendment to keep him from running. And he beat
all that because it was all based on politics. Law,
fair ridiculous stuff, partisan stuff. And that's why Pam BONDI
can say we're not going to have any ende of
his lists. We're going to enforce the law, equal treatment
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under the law, follow the Constitution. We're going to do that,
and yet these guys are still scared, which should tell
you something about what they were engaged in and why
they're seeking preemptive punts.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Okay, so let's assume that that Joe Biden will pardon
his brother. That means that both Hunter and his brother
will no longer have the ability to plead the fifth.
Do you believe an investigation into Joe and his conduct
is warranted based on their foreign business dealings.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well, we've got everything on the table, and remember we
we just got David Wife's report. By the way, Shawn,
his report was like some devastating the Special Council. David
Wife his report on the Hunter Biden situation. In that
whole investigation, it was like some junior high book report
that think where you forget you got to report the
next day and you started a left. It was twenty
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seven pages. Well, I mean rock Mower's report was three
hundred pages. You got Durham, her all these other special
councils give you a real report. This was twenty seven pages.
For goodness stakes. So we're going to look at some
of the things that went on there as well as
Jack Smith. We're going to look at all that information
and dig into this because we think that's important.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Has there been a preservation order for jack Smith, for
Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Is that in place?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, there's a preservation order for all of the material Jacksonith.
And I'm actually I'm sitting at my desk right here
where I'm starting to go through Jacksonith's report because we can.
There's the ones public on the January sixth activity that
part of his investigation, and of course the one with
the classified documents in Florida that's that's being kept under
steal uh because there's still a couple of dependents in
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that case. But yeah, we're going We're going through that
and we've ask him to preserve all information.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Well, I think that's important. I mean, how do we
define weaponization? Because the one thing that it became very
very clear in the questioning of Pam Bondy and I'm
sure the same questioning we'll go to Cash Fattel and
the hostility towards Pam Bondy, which I found inexcusable yesterday
but predictable.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It seems to focus.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
On Democrats have a fear that that that which happened
to Donald Trump. His supporters, his friends and his allies
will happen to them. Do you do you suspect that's
where it's coming from, Well.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That I guess that maybe they're they're you know, what
they think. But we're going to follow the facts, Pam
Pam Bondy is that we're going to follow the facts
in the law. It's not about going after people. It's
about equal justice under the law, equal administration of the law,
following the Constitution. That's what she's going to do. That's
what Todd blanche is going to do. That's what Cash
Totel's going to do. They're going to do it. They're
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going to operate these agencies the way they're supposed to.
Here's what I think is so good about the people
President Trump is nominated for these key positions. They reflect
the attitude the American people voted for a November fifth,
when the American people said, we don't want people leading
the government agencies where they're coming after us, the tax payers.
They're supposed to work for us. They're not supposed to
be weaponized against us or against their political opponents. And
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that is the attitude President Trump, the American people voted for,
and the attitude that is reflected the people President Trump
is nominating, whether it's Pete Hagksa's Pam BONDI cash to tell,
Todd Blanch you name it, up and down the line,
good people who are going to follow the law and
follow the constitution.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
All right, click break more with House Judiciary Committee Chairman
Jim Jordan, and your calls coming up as well. Eight
one hundred and ninety four one. Shawn is on number.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Can take.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
You know, he is the head of the very powerful
House Judiciary Committee. Him Jordan is with us. What did
you make of the farewell address last night? And this this,
you know, Jill Biden taking a partying shot at Nancy Pelosi.
We were friends for fifty years. And a report out
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in the Wall Street Journal today that Kamala Harris is
upset that Biden keeps saying that he would have beaten
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, I mean, this is what happens when you're the
party that's got all kinds of crazy policies and you
play the games that they did where they said, oh,
Joe Biden's totally capable of running the office when everyone
could see that he wasn't. And then you make the
switchlight they did, you're going to get this kind of finding,
and frankly, I think it's because they got their tails cake.
Seventy seven million Americans said we want President Trump back
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in the White House. They put Republicans in charge of
the Senate, kept Republicans in charge of the House because
they want to make America great again. They want common
sense policies, not the crazy stuff that the left pushes
that is now unfoture dominates the Democrat Party, and you're
starting to see a switch with some Democrats. Sean, this
is the encouraging thing. The Lake and Riley Act, which
passed this week in the House, we had forty some
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Demo I think forty eight Democrats vote for that bill.
Where we did we increase the number of Democrats. We
had a number of Democrats vote for peace legislation to
the data says if you're an illegal migrant and you
do some some domestic violence crime or some some hateful
thing against uh women, you're you're gonna you're gonna be gone.
We had a number of Democrats vote with us today
on that bill. So I do think there's there's a
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movement in a in a common sense direction, even with
some of the even with some of the Democrats.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Yeah, I tend to agree as well. I think you're
going to have a very busy time. And uh, I
think this could be the most consequential and transformative period
in American history. Do you believe Republicans will stick together,
especially in the House.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We have to, We just have to. We have to
realize and I said this two years ago when we
started that Congress. Any differences that exists in the Republican
Conference in the republic can party pale pale in comparison
to the differences between Republicans and the radical left, which
now unfortunately controls the Democrat Party. So let's remember that.
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Let's stick together. Let's do what we told the American
people we were going to do. President Trump's committed to
doing that. We need to have that same attitude in
the House and in the Senate. And if we do,
we're going to get good things done for this great country,
the greatest.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Nation ever, no doubt about it. We're glad you're there.
What percentage of the vote did you get in Ohio?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
We got what sixty eight, fifty eight, sixty nine, So.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You're beginning to slip, Congressman, you may need my help
next time.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
If you'd have been running, you to hit seventy.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
But I doubt it. I don't think anyone can talk.
I don't think anyone can top Jim Jordan anyway. Congressman,
we appreciate you more than you know. Keep up the
great work. We'll be in touch a lot throughout the year.
Eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn on number. If
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you want to be a part of the program, all right,
bucke up. It is official. Twenty twenty five. We could
be in for a seriously bumpy ride. Democrats they're going
to be themselves. They revert to form, but it's going
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to take time for the Trump policies to work. We
got a new president, thank god, and yet he's got
a heavy lift ahead of him to get the economy
back on track. And we see the stock market with
all its volatility, credit card default soaring thanks to Joe
and Kamala global conflicts. Hopefully they'll come to an end,
but they're not over yet. The national debt, I mean,
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Com two Day a great Company. Our buddy Stephen A.
Smith is on Hannity tonight. I'm not sure what to
make of his comments about pathetic Joe Biden. What's so
funny to me is it was the typical Biden last night, mumbling, bumbling,
stumbling and just flat out lying and then and talking
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about oligarchs, which I thought was a little bit of
ironic considering it was his son Hunter that did business
with like the former first Lady of Moscow and oligarch
and got three and a half million dollars and then
millions more invested in some real estate venture. And I'm
sitting here listening to this, and I'm like, oligarchs, Oh,
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you mean like the people that that Hunter does business
with that you said you knew nothing about except pictures
show that you were lying through your teeth.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I mean those the people you're talking about anyway. So
Steven A.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Smith had this observation about Biden's farewell speech last night
that it made him sad.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Listen, I was, guys, I was sad.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Of course, the president is entitled and he should give
a farewell speech, there is no question about that. But
different times invade us all. And when you see the
times that we live in, sometimes you see something and
you just say silence or a simple goodbye would suffice.
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And that's how I felt about the president tonight. I
have heard throughout my entire life, what a good and
what a decent man he is, what a family oriented
in the visual that he is, some of the tragedies,
the unspeakable tragedies that he has suffered, and our hearts
go out to him, and we recognize the fact that
he was in the Senate for decades and that he
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served this country to the best of his ability. But inevitably,
that old Janet Jackson's song what have You done for
Me Lately? Comes to mind, And when we see what transpired,
when we witnessed what has transpired over the last year plus,
and you were supposed to step away, You were supposed
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to be a transitional president, and you didn't do that,
and you decided that you wanted to stay in the race.
And then you got exposed because you showed up on
a debate stage June twenty seventh, and you were not
what people on the left have purported you to be.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
There's a lot of people out there.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
That didn't want to hear what he had to say
months ago when he was president. And unfortunately, maybe not me,
maybe not you two, but unfortunately there's not a lot
of Americans that were interested in hearing what he had
to say tonight. And that's sad.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
It's been sad from the get go. If you go
back and Steve and I and I we'll talk a
little bit about this. Okay, he had personal tragedies. Yeah,
my heart goes out anybody that goes through a personal tragedy.
But if you ask yourself about his record, what has
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he done to help the American people have a better economy,
to pay less?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Nothing?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
What can he point to that he can say, I
was successful in this area. I brought more safety and
security at home and abroad.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Nothing.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
The only reason the deal happened with Israel and the
hostages is because Donald Trump was going to unleash hell
at his command had they not made that deal. And
Joe Biden says, this is a joke. Wasn't a joke anyway,
We'll get to that tonight. Let's get to our busy phones.
So many of you standing by Danny Is in Maryland,
Danny High, how are.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
You glad you called.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Hi, Sean.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
What's going on, Danny? How are you?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
It's nice to talk. I've been a long listener of
your show.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
They've on the Eastern Shore, great crabs. But anyway, what
they did to Pian Bondy and Peter had set, it's
a shame what they're doing.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Well, it's what they tried to do because I don't
think they were successful against either one. As a matter
of fact, I think they failed miserably and in the
end didn't lay a glove on either one of them.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's my take.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
No, they don't understand we American people voted for change.
They just doesn't get it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
They're never gonna get it.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
They're never gonna do They're not gonna wake up in
the morning and say, you know what Donald Trump's plan
to secure the border and to deport you know, illegal
immigrants and criminals and rapists and murderers and terror and
cartel members. They're not going to wake up and say,
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you know what, drilling will make the country rich. We're
going to support energy dominance. They're not going to wake
up and say we need a strong military. They're just
never they are who they are.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
They want us to get stuff from our enemies, to
hate our guts.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, pretty much. I mean, listen, they don't.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
They reject the idea of America having the pre eminent
role in the world as the leader of the free world.
They view it as a sort of imperialism. They view
it as a sort of dominance. Unfortunately, what they're failing
to recognize is that evil exists, and our enemies have
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been on the move because of the weakness of Joe
Biden and Ran would not be acting way they've been acting.
And they won't act that way with Donald Trump as president,
and the same with China and the same with Russia.
The world order has already shifted, as evidence by Hamas
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all of a sudden now willing to make a peace
deal and release hostages.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's not an accident.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
And so you know, why do they believe in this
socialist utopia under the guise of environmental radicalism.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Anytime socialism has been tried, it has failed. I wrote
a whole chapter about it and live free or die.
But you know, we have a lot to look forward to.
With all that said, though, it's going to be hard
to keep Republicans in line. They need to recognize that
the agenda that the American people voted for was really
the Trump agenda. And that's why I'm hoping Republicans are
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going to stand strong together and and push through that
agenda and get that job done, and get it done expeditiously.
And we're going to help them do it. And if
we have to put pressure on them, we'll give out
phone numbers and you can respectfully call elected officials and
tell them what you want them to do. They are
supposed to be your servant. Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
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Eight hundred ninety four one Shawn. All right, quick break,
right back to our phone calls. Eight hundred ninety four
one Shawn, our number if you want to be a
part of the program. Right back to our busy phones.
Eight hundred ninety four one Shawn, our number, if you
want to be a part of the program. Lewis Alabama
next on the Sean Hannity Show. Where are you at Alabama?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Lewis? I'm in both note at Alabama? Know it well?
What's going on, sir?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, First of all, I want to thank you and
people like Jim Jordan for opening people's eyes to what
liberal progressiveness what it actually is. Socialist communists fashion them
done to this country, all.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Right, but no it's our pleasure.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
To my point an angle, I haven't heard anybody go
towards as far as these blanket pardons. Is it married
there be a way to go after the Biden crime family,
which is what they are, who have in some cases
been treated us is they're no way. I know they
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can't go to jail for anything that's coming to loose time.
But even people that aren't found criminally, sometimes they face fives,
they face penalties, they face monetary damages. If it's possible,
go after the family's money, the money they have gained
criminally by doing things that morally they shouldn't have been doing.
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And I don't even as far as going to jail,
I don't even care about that. What's done is done,
but go out.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Well, Unfortunately, the only way you could do it is
through a legal process or a civil process. But you know,
they would have to be some legitimate claim that somebody
was harmed and that they'd be validity to it. You know,
I know this is hard for people to understand here.
Although the preemptive pardon has never really been challenged in
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terms of the courts. But my interpretation and legal scholars
that I have talked to their interpretation seems to be
in sync with mind, is that the power of the
pardon is absolute. And I would not even begin to
challenge whatever Joe Biden does in these final hours of
his presidency in terms of preemptive pardons. My response is,
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let it stand as on Let it stand wide open
to the American people to make their own determination on it.
I wouldn't bother challenging it. In the end, Democrats, you know,
at some point down the line, probably I hope not
anytime soon. I hope not even in my lifetime, but
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they're going to be back in power. And if you
think that this unholy alliance between radical environmentalism and status
Marxism socialism has somehow died and buried and gone away,
forever you're dreaming it will re emerge in another form,
that people have not changed their minds and their hearts.
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And you know, as we have been witnessing the last
two days, they have been gone right back. They revert
to form, and they just you know, they go, they
go on the attack, and in this case, the smears,
the slanders, the personal attacks, the I hate Trump. You know,
vindictiveness is on full display. So it's a it's a
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never ending battle for the hearts and minds of the
American people. You know, we've got to continue the process
of educating people and informing people as to what you know.
Give me an example of any government program that's been successful.
You know, how are your government schools doing. How's law
and order in your small town or big city. How
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good a job did they do? Control in the borders.
How's Obamacare working out for you? Social Security and medicare
headed towards insolvency. These are all government programs. They are
lofty promises and you always get disappointed. They always under deliver.
I hope that helps you.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Here to help, Reagan said the best when the government
comes and says they're here to help.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Close the door, Close the door and run away. Lewis,
thank you very quickly, same topic. Brian North, Dakota. Brian,
we have about a minute. It's all yours, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Sir, Yeah, just real quickly. I as far as looking
at from a voter's point of view, I believe an
incumbent president should not be allowed to grant pardons after
the election day. I think the laws should be changed
that if they're going to do a pardon, it should
be prior to the election. Then everybody will know how
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to vote. Right now, we have no idea what the
person's going to do until afterwards.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
There's nothing in the constitution that references any such restriction.
That's the problem. He would need a constitutional amendment to
do it, and I'm not sure we'd ever get there.
I'm not sure if I even want to get there.
I kind of liked the idea of the power of
the pardon being absolute. There's a way to transform the
power of the pardon, you know, like there are innocent
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people in jail. Alice Murray Johnson changed my thinking on
this when she was released. He was she had one
drug charge, a life sentence, thought all life was over.
He never became bitter. He started counseling young people in prison.
She spent nearly twenty five years there. Donald Trump set
her free and that result, and I think there are
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other people in prison that deserve second chances. And I
think there is disparate sentencing. You know, why would somebody
would crack cocaine versus powder cocaine get a different sentence.
There's still dealing in cocaine or there's still charged with
the same drug, except you know, one might be more
potent form. I do think there are good things you
can do with the pardon. What Joe's going to do
is protect his family, and Joe is going to protect
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those that they know we're dishonest with the American people.
That is my prediction. Anyway, my friend, appreciate you. By
the way, don't forget tomorrow. We're going to take your
calls on tomorrow's show. We're going to be taking calls
from people, what you're excited about, what your expectations are
for the Trump presidency. Tomorrow it will be three days
until inauguration day. Anyway, we'll get to those calls tomorrow
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when we come back. Caroline Glick joins us the latest
on this deal with the hostages, and much more straight
ahead as we continue
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Speaker 4 (00:18):
What might to pardon myself for?
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That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
No, I have no contemplation pardon myself.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
End there.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I didn't do anything wrong.
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Let's stop the finger pointing. Let's just assess the truth.
I'm not interested in who's to blame.
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I want to know what happened.
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That is the balance of mind.
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Donald Trump will be sworn in as the forty seventh
President of the United States, and with it comes an
entirely different cabinet philosophy, ideology. It's interesting to watch all
of these these confirmation hearings. I think one of the
more interesting ones today Scott Bessent is as Treasury Secretary.
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I mean, he just schooled Democrats on the economy. It
was that was pretty entertaining to watch. I thought Pam
Bondy had a particularly great performance. She didn't take crap
from anybody. And what really comes out of this is
that all that they have done by abuse the Department
of Justice and weaponizing it and politicizing our intelligence community
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and politicizing the FBI, it is amazing to watch people
that sat by idly and silently all these years and
allowed this all to unfold and to happen. Their great
fear is that what they did to Donald Trump and
the people around him would be done to them. I mean,
that's what all of this comes down to. I mean,
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for Pam Bondy to remind the congenital liar conspiracy theorist
Adam Schiff that he was the one that had a
censor by Congress. It was pretty amazing, and pointing out
that seventy two percent of Americans have lost faith in
the Department of Justice, and robberies in his state are
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eighty seven percent higher than the national average, and I
found that particularly entertaining. Blumenthal implied that Bondy was lot
was lying. This is a guy that lied about serving
in Vietnam. That became pretty entertaining as well, Senator Rano
during the hearing, you know, as nominees slamming, you know,
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Pam Bondi slammed the Senator during the hearing for refusing
a courtesy call, which I thought when that went pretty
viral actually by the end of the day. And you know,
she is being very very clear as this steady. I mean,
she was the Attorney General of Florida for two terms.
She was elected by one of the whitest margins ever.
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And this is before Florida was as readed as it
is now. And she vowed that there will never be
an enemy's list, and she throws down, you know, with
a lot of these people. She flipped the script on
Senator white House on the you know, suggesting that she
will weaponize the Department of Justice, and you mean you
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mean like with Donald Trump anyway. Now we are officially
on preemptive pardon watch. Names that keep getting circulated. Jim
Biden's name, Joe's brother. We keep hearing about Liz Cheney,
we keep hearing about Benny Thompson, we keep hearing about
Anthony Fauci. I would not be surprised if all of
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these people end up getting a preemptive pardon. We'll talk
to Congressman Jim Jordan in a second. But here's Joe
Biden saying that he's not going to pardon himself. And
also remember Biden and Kareem Jean Pierre that repeatedly they'd
never pardon Hunter Biden, and of course they did.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
And also, sir, have you ruled.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Out a pardon for yourself or any other additional members
of the family. For myself, yes, sir, what what I
pardon myself for? That's what I'm asking No, I have
no contemplation to pardoning myself for and that I didn't
do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter
what it is.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yes, And have you ruled out a pardon for your son? Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You have.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Does the president have any intention.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Of pardoning him? We've been asked that question multiple times.
Our answer stands, which is, now, is there any possibility
that the president would end up pardoning his son? You know,
I just said no, and I.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Am satisfied that I'm not going to do anything. If
I said, I by the jury decision and I will
do that and I'll not pardon him.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I can speak for the president and he said he
would not pardon his son, and I'm just going to
leave it there, leave it there, and then of course
he ends up pardoning his son. He is the chairman
of the very important House Judiciary Committee. They've done phenomenal
work exposing the weaponization of justice in America. Jim Jordan
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is with us. Refresh my memory. Didn't Joe Biden say
that he never once talked to his son, as brother
or anybody about their foreign business deals. And didn't he
leverage a billion taxpayer dollars to get the prosecutor in
Ukraine fired who was investigating his son and the big
energy giant. And isn't there a WhatsApp message with the
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energy giant in China called CEFC where Hunter claims he's
sitting next to his father, and that they'd be pretty
much held to pay if they didn't pony up money
and wasn't money delivered within days after that exchange.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
All that is all that is accurate, Not to mention
the dinners, the other dinners he showed up to with
folks from CFC and of course with Varisma. It was
leveraging your tax money, sewan your listener's tax money, American
tax dollars he used American tax dollars, held that up
and said, unless you fire the guy who's putting the
pressure on the company, my son sits on the board
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of where I got a call from my son a
few days ago talking about this suson, unless you do that,
you're not getting the money, and shazam, the guy got fired.
So yeah, he definitely wag in.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And on Hunter's laptop.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Doesn't he refer to multiple occasions where money is that
he was making with no apparent services or skill set
for money from a Russian oligarch, money from Barisma, running
money from CEFC Kazakhstan, and et cetera. Doesn't Hunter implicate
his own father saying half his income goes to pops.
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Didn't he have exhaustive exchanges with his accountant about which
account they were going to take his money out of
to pay for pops home repairs. And weren't there multiple
images now that we have of Joe and Hunter with
their foreign business partners.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Am I wrong on any of that?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Not wrong on any of that? Again, I always use
a barifan example because I think it's the most distinct one.
Hunter Biden gets put on the board. Hunter Biden wasn't
qualified to be on the board. He told us so himself.
The head of the company asked Hunter Biden keny way
and with your dad to relieve the pressure we are
under from the prosecutor in Ukraine. Hunter Biden calls his
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father the big guy. And then a few days later,
as I said, he leverages American text dollars to get
accomplished exactly what he's not asking him to accomplish, that capsule.
And then there's all those other examples you described, which
shows how this thing operates, which tells me that the
pardons aren't probably going to just end with Hunter Biden.
It's probably going to go to his brother Jim Biden
as well. And then who knows what else he does
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relative to Minnie Thompson, doctor Falci, Loz Cheney, Adam Shipp,
all the other people who've been mentioned for this amazing
new thing called preempted partners.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Okay, so my next question for you is if I
did any of these things, or Donald Trump did any
of these things, what is the likelihood that that would
be investigated as a possible crime.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Of course it would be because when you don't do
things wrong, you get investigated, you and you get censored.
You've been censored by the left coming after you. That
they've they've done that President Trump, what they've done to
him for doing nothing wrong. Maybe go Cole back to
go back eight years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
They fight on his campaign.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Then it was Mueller, then it was impeachment. Then it's
the foreign diictments to state to federal, then it's the
raid on his home. Then it's trying to use the
fourteenth Amendment to keep him from running. And he beat
all that because it was all based on politics. Law,
fair ridiculous stuff, partisan stuff. And that's why Pam BONDI
can say we're not going to have any ende of
his lists. We're going to enforce the law, equal treatment
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under the law, follow the Constitution. We're going to do that,
and yet these guys are still scared, which should tell
you something about what they were engaged in and why
they're seeking preemptive punts.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Okay, so let's assume that that Joe Biden will pardon
his brother. That means that both Hunter and his brother
will no longer have the ability to plead the fifth.
Do you believe an investigation into Joe and his conduct
is warranted based on their foreign business dealings.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well, we've got everything on the table, and remember we
we just got David Wife's report. By the way, Shawn,
his report was like some devastating the Special Council. David
Wife his report on the Hunter Biden situation. In that
whole investigation, it was like some junior high book report
that think where you forget you got to report the
next day and you started a left. It was twenty
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seven pages. Well, I mean rock Mower's report was three
hundred pages. You got Durham, her all these other special
councils give you a real report. This was twenty seven pages.
For goodness stakes. So we're going to look at some
of the things that went on there as well as
Jack Smith. We're going to look at all that information
and dig into this because we think that's important.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Has there been a preservation order for jack Smith, for
Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Is that in place?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, there's a preservation order for all of the material Jacksonith.
And I'm actually I'm sitting at my desk right here
where I'm starting to go through Jacksonith's report because we can.
There's the ones public on the January sixth activity that
part of his investigation, and of course the one with
the classified documents in Florida that's that's being kept under
steal uh because there's still a couple of dependents in
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that case. But yeah, we're going We're going through that
and we've ask him to preserve all information.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Well, I think that's important. I mean, how do we
define weaponization? Because the one thing that it became very
very clear in the questioning of Pam Bondy and I'm
sure the same questioning we'll go to Cash Fattel and
the hostility towards Pam Bondy, which I found inexcusable yesterday
but predictable.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It seems to focus.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
On Democrats have a fear that that that which happened
to Donald Trump. His supporters, his friends and his allies
will happen to them. Do you do you suspect that's
where it's coming from, Well.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That I guess that maybe they're they're you know, what
they think. But we're going to follow the facts, Pam
Pam Bondy is that we're going to follow the facts
in the law. It's not about going after people. It's
about equal justice under the law, equal administration of the law,
following the Constitution. That's what she's going to do. That's
what Todd blanche is going to do. That's what Cash
Totel's going to do. They're going to do it. They're
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going to operate these agencies the way they're supposed to.
Here's what I think is so good about the people
President Trump is nominated for these key positions. They reflect
the attitude the American people voted for a November fifth,
when the American people said, we don't want people leading
the government agencies where they're coming after us, the tax payers.
They're supposed to work for us. They're not supposed to
be weaponized against us or against their political opponents. And
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that is the attitude President Trump, the American people voted for,
and the attitude that is reflected the people President Trump
is nominating, whether it's Pete Hagksa's Pam BONDI cash to tell,
Todd Blanch you name it, up and down the line,
good people who are going to follow the law and
follow the constitution.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
All right, click break more with House Judiciary Committee Chairman
Jim Jordan, and your calls coming up as well. Eight
one hundred and ninety four one. Shawn is on number.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Can take.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
You know, he is the head of the very powerful
House Judiciary Committee. Him Jordan is with us. What did
you make of the farewell address last night? And this this,
you know, Jill Biden taking a partying shot at Nancy Pelosi.
We were friends for fifty years. And a report out
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in the Wall Street Journal today that Kamala Harris is
upset that Biden keeps saying that he would have beaten
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, I mean, this is what happens when you're the
party that's got all kinds of crazy policies and you
play the games that they did where they said, oh,
Joe Biden's totally capable of running the office when everyone
could see that he wasn't. And then you make the
switchlight they did, you're going to get this kind of finding,
and frankly, I think it's because they got their tails cake.
Seventy seven million Americans said we want President Trump back
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in the White House. They put Republicans in charge of
the Senate, kept Republicans in charge of the House because
they want to make America great again. They want common
sense policies, not the crazy stuff that the left pushes
that is now unfoture dominates the Democrat Party, and you're
starting to see a switch with some Democrats. Sean, this
is the encouraging thing. The Lake and Riley Act, which
passed this week in the House, we had forty some
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Demo I think forty eight Democrats vote for that bill.
Where we did we increase the number of Democrats. We
had a number of Democrats vote for peace legislation to
the data says if you're an illegal migrant and you
do some some domestic violence crime or some some hateful
thing against uh women, you're you're gonna you're gonna be gone.
We had a number of Democrats vote with us today
on that bill. So I do think there's there's a
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movement in a in a common sense direction, even with
some of the even with some of the Democrats.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Yeah, I tend to agree as well. I think you're
going to have a very busy time. And uh, I
think this could be the most consequential and transformative period
in American history. Do you believe Republicans will stick together,
especially in the House.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We have to, We just have to. We have to
realize and I said this two years ago when we
started that Congress. Any differences that exists in the Republican
Conference in the republic can party pale pale in comparison
to the differences between Republicans and the radical left, which
now unfortunately controls the Democrat Party. So let's remember that.
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Let's stick together. Let's do what we told the American
people we were going to do. President Trump's committed to
doing that. We need to have that same attitude in
the House and in the Senate. And if we do,
we're going to get good things done for this great country,
the greatest.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Nation ever, no doubt about it. We're glad you're there.
What percentage of the vote did you get in Ohio?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
We got what sixty eight, fifty eight, sixty nine, So.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You're beginning to slip, Congressman, you may need my help
next time.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
If you'd have been running, you to hit seventy.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
But I doubt it. I don't think anyone can talk.
I don't think anyone can top Jim Jordan anyway. Congressman,
we appreciate you more than you know. Keep up the
great work. We'll be in touch a lot throughout the year.
Eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn on number. If
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be in for a seriously bumpy ride. Democrats they're going
to be themselves. They revert to form, but it's going
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to take time for the Trump policies to work. We
got a new president, thank god, and yet he's got
a heavy lift ahead of him to get the economy
back on track. And we see the stock market with
all its volatility, credit card default soaring thanks to Joe
and Kamala global conflicts. Hopefully they'll come to an end,
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Com two Day a great Company. Our buddy Stephen A.
Smith is on Hannity tonight. I'm not sure what to
make of his comments about pathetic Joe Biden. What's so
funny to me is it was the typical Biden last night, mumbling, bumbling,
stumbling and just flat out lying and then and talking
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about oligarchs, which I thought was a little bit of
ironic considering it was his son Hunter that did business
with like the former first Lady of Moscow and oligarch
and got three and a half million dollars and then
millions more invested in some real estate venture. And I'm
sitting here listening to this, and I'm like, oligarchs, Oh,
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you mean like the people that that Hunter does business
with that you said you knew nothing about except pictures
show that you were lying through your teeth.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I mean those the people you're talking about anyway. So
Steven A.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Smith had this observation about Biden's farewell speech last night
that it made him sad.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Listen, I was, guys, I was sad.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Of course, the president is entitled and he should give
a farewell speech, there is no question about that. But
different times invade us all. And when you see the
times that we live in, sometimes you see something and
you just say silence or a simple goodbye would suffice.
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And that's how I felt about the president tonight. I
have heard throughout my entire life, what a good and
what a decent man he is, what a family oriented
in the visual that he is, some of the tragedies,
the unspeakable tragedies that he has suffered, and our hearts
go out to him, and we recognize the fact that
he was in the Senate for decades and that he
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served this country to the best of his ability. But inevitably,
that old Janet Jackson's song what have You done for
Me Lately? Comes to mind, And when we see what transpired,
when we witnessed what has transpired over the last year plus,
and you were supposed to step away, You were supposed
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to be a transitional president, and you didn't do that,
and you decided that you wanted to stay in the race.
And then you got exposed because you showed up on
a debate stage June twenty seventh, and you were not
what people on the left have purported you to be.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
There's a lot of people out there.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
That didn't want to hear what he had to say
months ago when he was president. And unfortunately, maybe not me,
maybe not you two, but unfortunately there's not a lot
of Americans that were interested in hearing what he had
to say tonight. And that's sad.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
It's been sad from the get go. If you go
back and Steve and I and I we'll talk a
little bit about this. Okay, he had personal tragedies. Yeah,
my heart goes out anybody that goes through a personal tragedy.
But if you ask yourself about his record, what has
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he done to help the American people have a better economy,
to pay less?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Nothing?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
What can he point to that he can say, I
was successful in this area. I brought more safety and
security at home and abroad.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Nothing.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
The only reason the deal happened with Israel and the
hostages is because Donald Trump was going to unleash hell
at his command had they not made that deal. And
Joe Biden says, this is a joke. Wasn't a joke anyway,
We'll get to that tonight. Let's get to our busy phones.
So many of you standing by Danny Is in Maryland,
Danny High, how are.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
You glad you called.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Hi, Sean.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
What's going on, Danny? How are you?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
It's nice to talk. I've been a long listener of
your show.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
They've on the Eastern Shore, great crabs. But anyway, what
they did to Pian Bondy and Peter had set, it's
a shame what they're doing.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Well, it's what they tried to do because I don't
think they were successful against either one. As a matter
of fact, I think they failed miserably and in the
end didn't lay a glove on either one of them.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's my take.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
No, they don't understand we American people voted for change.
They just doesn't get it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
They're never gonna get it.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
They're never gonna do They're not gonna wake up in
the morning and say, you know what Donald Trump's plan
to secure the border and to deport you know, illegal
immigrants and criminals and rapists and murderers and terror and
cartel members. They're not going to wake up and say,
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you know what, drilling will make the country rich. We're
going to support energy dominance. They're not going to wake
up and say we need a strong military. They're just
never they are who they are.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
They want us to get stuff from our enemies, to
hate our guts.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, pretty much. I mean, listen, they don't.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
They reject the idea of America having the pre eminent
role in the world as the leader of the free world.
They view it as a sort of imperialism. They view
it as a sort of dominance. Unfortunately, what they're failing
to recognize is that evil exists, and our enemies have
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been on the move because of the weakness of Joe
Biden and Ran would not be acting way they've been acting.
And they won't act that way with Donald Trump as president,
and the same with China and the same with Russia.
The world order has already shifted, as evidence by Hamas
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all of a sudden now willing to make a peace
deal and release hostages.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's not an accident.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
And so you know, why do they believe in this
socialist utopia under the guise of environmental radicalism.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Anytime socialism has been tried, it has failed. I wrote
a whole chapter about it and live free or die.
But you know, we have a lot to look forward to.
With all that said, though, it's going to be hard
to keep Republicans in line. They need to recognize that
the agenda that the American people voted for was really
the Trump agenda. And that's why I'm hoping Republicans are
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going to stand strong together and and push through that
agenda and get that job done, and get it done expeditiously.
And we're going to help them do it. And if
we have to put pressure on them, we'll give out
phone numbers and you can respectfully call elected officials and
tell them what you want them to do. They are
supposed to be your servant. Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
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Eight hundred ninety four one Shawn. All right, quick break,
right back to our phone calls. Eight hundred ninety four
one Shawn, our number if you want to be a
part of the program. Right back to our busy phones.
Eight hundred ninety four one Shawn, our number, if you
want to be a part of the program. Lewis Alabama
next on the Sean Hannity Show. Where are you at Alabama?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Lewis? I'm in both note at Alabama? Know it well?
What's going on, sir?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, First of all, I want to thank you and
people like Jim Jordan for opening people's eyes to what
liberal progressiveness what it actually is. Socialist communists fashion them
done to this country, all.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Right, but no it's our pleasure.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
To my point an angle, I haven't heard anybody go
towards as far as these blanket pardons. Is it married
there be a way to go after the Biden crime family,
which is what they are, who have in some cases
been treated us is they're no way. I know they
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can't go to jail for anything that's coming to loose time.
But even people that aren't found criminally, sometimes they face fives,
they face penalties, they face monetary damages. If it's possible,
go after the family's money, the money they have gained
criminally by doing things that morally they shouldn't have been doing.
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And I don't even as far as going to jail,
I don't even care about that. What's done is done,
but go out.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Well, Unfortunately, the only way you could do it is
through a legal process or a civil process. But you know,
they would have to be some legitimate claim that somebody
was harmed and that they'd be validity to it. You know,
I know this is hard for people to understand here.
Although the preemptive pardon has never really been challenged in
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terms of the courts. But my interpretation and legal scholars
that I have talked to their interpretation seems to be
in sync with mind, is that the power of the
pardon is absolute. And I would not even begin to
challenge whatever Joe Biden does in these final hours of
his presidency in terms of preemptive pardons. My response is,
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let it stand as on Let it stand wide open
to the American people to make their own determination on it.
I wouldn't bother challenging it. In the end, Democrats, you know,
at some point down the line, probably I hope not
anytime soon. I hope not even in my lifetime, but
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they're going to be back in power. And if you
think that this unholy alliance between radical environmentalism and status
Marxism socialism has somehow died and buried and gone away,
forever you're dreaming it will re emerge in another form,
that people have not changed their minds and their hearts.
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And you know, as we have been witnessing the last
two days, they have been gone right back. They revert
to form, and they just you know, they go, they
go on the attack, and in this case, the smears,
the slanders, the personal attacks, the I hate Trump. You know,
vindictiveness is on full display. So it's a it's a
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never ending battle for the hearts and minds of the
American people. You know, we've got to continue the process
of educating people and informing people as to what you know.
Give me an example of any government program that's been successful.
You know, how are your government schools doing. How's law
and order in your small town or big city. How
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good a job did they do? Control in the borders.
How's Obamacare working out for you? Social Security and medicare
headed towards insolvency. These are all government programs. They are
lofty promises and you always get disappointed. They always under deliver.
I hope that helps you.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Here to help, Reagan said the best when the government
comes and says they're here to help.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Close the door, Close the door and run away. Lewis,
thank you very quickly, same topic. Brian North, Dakota. Brian,
we have about a minute. It's all yours, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Sir, Yeah, just real quickly. I as far as looking
at from a voter's point of view, I believe an
incumbent president should not be allowed to grant pardons after
the election day. I think the laws should be changed
that if they're going to do a pardon, it should
be prior to the election. Then everybody will know how
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to vote. Right now, we have no idea what the
person's going to do until afterwards.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
There's nothing in the constitution that references any such restriction.
That's the problem. He would need a constitutional amendment to
do it, and I'm not sure we'd ever get there.
I'm not sure if I even want to get there.
I kind of liked the idea of the power of
the pardon being absolute. There's a way to transform the
power of the pardon, you know, like there are innocent
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people in jail. Alice Murray Johnson changed my thinking on
this when she was released. He was she had one
drug charge, a life sentence, thought all life was over.
He never became bitter. He started counseling young people in prison.
She spent nearly twenty five years there. Donald Trump set
her free and that result, and I think there are
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other people in prison that deserve second chances. And I
think there is disparate sentencing. You know, why would somebody
would crack cocaine versus powder cocaine get a different sentence.
There's still dealing in cocaine or there's still charged with
the same drug, except you know, one might be more
potent form. I do think there are good things you
can do with the pardon. What Joe's going to do
is protect his family, and Joe is going to protect
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those that they know we're dishonest with the American people.
That is my prediction. Anyway, my friend, appreciate you. By
the way, don't forget tomorrow. We're going to take your
calls on tomorrow's show. We're going to be taking calls
from people, what you're excited about, what your expectations are
for the Trump presidency. Tomorrow it will be three days
until inauguration day. Anyway, we'll get to those calls tomorrow
(31:27):
when we come back. Caroline Glick joins us the latest
on this deal with the hostages, and much more straight
ahead as we continue
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