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July 1, 2024 • 32 mins

Rose Tennent sits down with Paster Jack Hibbs to talk about the news of the day including why it's so important we pray for America.

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Speaker 4 (00:21):
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the total band on, the total initiative relative to what
we're gonna do with more border patrol and more asybum officers.
President Trump, I really don't know what he said at
the end of this, and I don't think he knows
what he said either.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
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Speaker 7 (01:07):
From coast to coast, from border to border, from sea
to shining sea. Sean Kennedy is.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
On Thank you for joining me today as I guest
host for Sean Hannity. He is taking the week off
to celebrate the nation's birthday. That's my kind of guy.
I believe in spreading the birthday out for at least
a week at least. My name is Rose, and as
you know, I love spending time with his audience. You
guys are the cream of the crop. Speaking of the

(01:42):
cream of the crop, I'm kind of a fangirl here
and I've had him on before when I posted for Sean.
He's the founder and senior pastor of Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills.
He's dedicated over three decades to spreading the word of God.
I appreciate him because he doesn't back down from the
truth ever. Please welcome Pastor Jack Hibbs.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
How are you, Rose, I'm doing good.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Thanks you so much, No, thank you honestly, you know what,
because oftentimes I hear from people they can't find a
church home. They want to hear the truth and it's
so sugarcoated anymore, and you always deliver that. And by
the way, I wanted to point out that you can
check Jack Hibbs out at Real Life with Jack Hibbs
podcast YouTube sermons available online. I listen the other time.

(02:29):
In fact, I remember once watching a sermon and texting
you right afterwards. Sorry it was a Sunday, But anyway,
I enjoy your deliveries. I really do that.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Thank you all.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Right.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
So let's start with the Tennessee governor who signed a
proclamation calling for thirty one days of prayer and fasting
in his state. But that has caught on, and I
noticed that you are You said you are going to
dedicate your time to every day reminding everyone that we
should be praying and fasting for this name. And I

(03:01):
love that. It Wasn't that a great idea he had.
I don't think he knew it was going to catch
on like this.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, let's tell you we have friends and contexts in Tennessee.
And so when that proclamation was made, I immediately it
just so happened on the day of the week that
it fell. I was to be in the pulp the
next day, and so what I said was, Hey, everybody,
did you see this headline? And we put it up

(03:28):
on the screens, and then I said in that in
just promptu moment, I just said, you know what, on
July first, let's all become tennesseean here in California, let's pray.
Let's be the same. And I began to find out
from others in other states, dister saying we're going to
do the same thing. So Governor Bilt to something, and
of course it's historic, it's accurate, it's something that is

(03:51):
what is foundational coordination. You know, there's people kicking back
on this, But what's very funny, Rose, is the people
kicking back on it have knownledge of American history. They
don't have any idea that Congress, under the encouragement of
Benjamin Franklin, was the one who initiated, for example, congressional prayer.
Even before that, we had various governors of the colonies

(04:16):
declaring a time of humiliation, fasting, and prayer to God.
And so what Governor Bill Lee did should cause every historian,
every American, if even if they're an atheist, to be
able to say, right on, you know what, we've hit
rock bottom. We're on the precipice of absolute societal and

(04:39):
cultural destruction. What else is left? Why not cry out
to God? And that's what we're going to do. In Rose,
I know you're going to be doing it as well.
So we're thrilled and thankful for Governor Bill Lee.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
I am too. And this isn't, as you said, unusual,
because at least early on in this country, we relied
on God and we saw him out for the good
of our country. I mean, what we're asking for to
the naysayers are those who want to criticize, is we're
asking for the good of the country. Look, one of
the things he said is seek God's hand of mercy

(05:13):
and healing on the nation. And when we talk about
the nation, we talk about crime. He said, violence against
its citizens, the evil of human trafficking, and fentanyl. I mean,
what's so wrong about praying about those things? Pastor Jackibbs, Well,
see you hit.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
The nail on the head Rose. This is what's actually happening.
I love what you're saying, because this is kind of
like a lamb experience experiment that we're conducting, and we're
finding out the facts what I mean by that. So
Bill Lee calls for this prayer and fast, and the
state of Tennessee is thrilled, and others in the other

(05:49):
forty nine states are thrilled. And then we have the
decision made by Oklahoma to put up the Ten Commandments
in public schools and people are cheering. And then we
have what was it most recently there was the Louisiana

(06:09):
recently last week or week and a half ago. Also,
the governor made a declaration regarding the teaching of the
Bible and public schools to be initiated. If someone is
an absolute atheist, why would they voice opposition to these things?

(06:32):
If they don't believe in God and they think we
are a bunch of fools and we're talking into thin air,
So why should it bother them? But isn't it interesting
Rose that there are so many people who are professing
atheism saying that there's a violation a church and state
with all that's going on. Well, what's funn is our
founding fathers never figured that out? Because I just recently

(06:54):
this year opened up Congress and prayer at the request
of Congress. And so this argument of well, we can't
have religion in the public square, well, okay, listen, we
took religion out a long time ago, basically since nineteen
sixty three. And how has it gone for us? How's
our schools? How is our educational system? How is our

(07:17):
public safety? And how's the homedoing? Now? Allow us maybe
a year, everybody, How about if we let the Ten
Commandments be posted in a public school, some kid might
think twice about bringing the shot into class and doing
something terrible. So what's wrong with that?

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Nothing that I know of honestly. And you know it's
interesting too, because you know, I started out this show
you never know how it's going to take on its
own form. And I had Calsey Grammar on earlier and
we talked about George Washington because Calsey Graham is doing
Calsey Grammer, I'm sorry, is doing this docu series on

(07:55):
Fox Nation about George Washington and Pastor Hibbs. All comes together,
doesn't it. He was the father of this country. He
loved God, and he loved those who served under him
in the army. He felt for those at Valley Forge.
He cared so much about this country. He gave so
much to the beginnings of this new United States of America.

(08:18):
And it's kind of cool that we got to talking
about that at the same time, talking about how God
is the one who's established our freedoms. It's God and
God alone, not man, because as we've seen in the past,
if our freedoms were given to us by man, then
man can take them away. And that is not at
all how it was ever intended to be. I mean,

(08:39):
from the day one, between us and God. Okay, but
even for the birth of this nation.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
You know, Rose, I'm standing here. You can't see me,
I can't see you, but I'm standing here in my
office and I'm looking at a rare reproduction of the
famous Prayer at Velle. For that's what it's called, the
Prayer at Valley Forge. And the reason why my copy
on my wall is unique is because Friedburg, the actual

(09:10):
painter of that great painting where Washington is kneeling down
in the snow and he's praying beside his horse. Well,
a descendant of Freyburg gave me this remarkable painting. What's
the point that I'm making. It's inscribed here part of
Washington's prayer, And somebody might say, and I get it. Oh,

(09:30):
how did somebody know that Washington prayed that prayer when
he's praying in secret in the snow and Valley Forge. Well,
there was a man by the name of Potts, Isaac Potts,
who was spying on Washington, saw him, heard him pray,
wrote it down, and now we have that in our
history books. My point is regarding Washington himself. If I

(09:53):
encourage everybody to go to Mount Vernon and at Washington's tomb,
you'll see his four favorite Bible verses. A lot of
people don't realize that Washington arose every morning at five am,
and his first order of duty was to pray. He
would write in his journal, and then they would break camp.

(10:14):
They would march for ten miles, have breakfast, and then Washington,
by general orders it's called, would host a devotion before
they went on with their day of marching. These are
things that are in the records of our nation. I'm
not making it up. It's in the National Archives. It's

(10:34):
our nation's history Smithsonian Institute. But who knows this anymore?
People don't teach the truth about our nation. And when
you come to the end of his political career, when
he's saying goodbye to the presidency, which was amazing, Rose,
you know this America wanted to make him king and
he said, Nope, two terms and that's it. And his

(10:57):
closing farewell address should make people weep. But it's so
beautiful how he recognizes God in his providence over the
birthing of this nation. And again, if we don't study history, Rose,
we will just be absolutely lost in darkness, lost in ignorance.

(11:18):
But you know, I think there's an awakening taking place,
not only in the real church in America, but we're
seeing really good people elected to office. And know its
gonna sound crazy, but in California, we're seeing a ground
swell of great people being elected to local and state government.
Sometime's up and I thank God. And so we're very

(11:39):
encouraged this month of July to pray, dedicate ourselves to pray,
and then on my Facebook page, Rose It's a private
Facebook page, but I'm praying live on Facebook every morning
for whoever wants to join me. And we're lifting up
this country. We're a great niece.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
That's great is that Jack Hibbs Facebook page. Just Jack
Hibbs is what they're looking for.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's corrects.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Okay, you know one more thing too. I mean, you
talked about that crazy thing that's happening in California and
we just recently had a debate, and I don't even
want to get into all of the politics of it
right now because one of the things I really want
to drive home today with this audience is that it
is not one man or one woman that is going

(12:23):
to change the course of our nation. And we just
went through the list. You know, we're looking at the
fentanyl over Jose's, We're looking at crime, violent crime, child trafficking, women,
being trafficked, and then you know, there's just the list
goes on and on. There is a lot to be
concerned about. There is no one man or one woman
who is going to save us from all of this.

(12:45):
There is one who will, but it's no man. It's
no one we're going to elect. Because this is really
up to us as a nation. We have a responsibility. Actually,
very much like the in seventeen ninety nine when President
John Adams we talked a little bit about the history
of going back back to those days. He called for
that day of solemn humiliation. One of the things that
the lawmakers invited people to do is have the resolution

(13:08):
read through during church services and then examine their lives
in light of God's word and confess their sins. Ooh,
that reminds me of Second Chronicles, because if you want
to save a nation, there are things that you need
to do. And just like Benjamin Franklin when he answered
that woman, do you wanted to know if it was
a monarchy or a republic? He said, a republic if

(13:30):
you can keep it, it is up to us. It
is up to us.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
That is so good. And you know, I didn't know
how this interview would go. So I happened to have
in front of me the original prayer that I offered
up in Congress on January thirtieth. And it's really funny
because I've taken so much heape for it. But what's funny, Rose,
is that three quarters of this prayer I lifted from
previous clergy from seventeen seventy four on and basically plagiarized,

(14:03):
so to speak, their prayer right, I mean, I reissued
or re uttered or are set again their prayers. And
twenty six congressmen and women condemned me for doing that
because they didn't recognize it. They said it was not
the proper thing to do in the house. And yet
those words were uttered in the house. And my point
is this that this nation, if you like it or not,

(14:27):
this nation was founded upon Judeo Christian worldview values. Here's
what I find so wonderful, Roads, is that our founding
fathers were so forward thinking that they gave everyone the
same equal rights under the law that the Constitution and
this republic that we live in.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
You gotta go, I have to, I always say, but
you are making a great point. I'm sorry, this is
a very I went the longest I could go on
this segment Pastor Jackibbs Real Life with Jackibbs, check him out.
You make an excellent point. I appreciate all you do.
Thank you. Welcome back to the Sean Handedy Show. My
name is Rose, and I welcome your input. Today. It's

(15:09):
one eight hundred and ninety four to one Sean. We've
got Rick calling from Florida.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Hey, Rick, Hey, Rose, thanks for taking a call. Just
want to touch base real quick. Why would we even
need to tell everyone or post it saying it's the
ten Commandments, it's the out of the Bible ten commands.
Why do't we just say commandments to live life by
and say this is what we need to do as
a guide to start teaching all our young people and

(15:36):
teach everybody else. This is the way that the world
will be a better place. And actually, oh, listen, out
of the.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Bible, you actually told the screen caller life principles instead
of commandments. If that bothers people, I like that too, Rick,
good thinking, because and thanks for your call, sweetie. Because
you know, listen, I don't care what faith you are.
If we can demonstrate and be models of our faith
and bring that into our character and our education system

(16:04):
that planted those godly principles, and how the church and
the clergy they all played a part in pursuit of
freedom and independence. And I just feel like that, you know,
it's up to us too as parents to educate our
children and to remind them, you know, what's most important,
and it certainly is in social media, and we'll talk
about that coming up. In fact, after the break, don't

(16:25):
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Speaker 1 (17:04):
You know, breaking news straight from the source. This is
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Speaker 6 (17:16):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose,
and I welcome your inputs that we're going to take
your phone calls. I'm going to talk about the debate
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(17:36):
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(17:57):
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(18:21):
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to give back to everybody. You know, we were talking
about the debate, and I'll tell you what. Ethan's got
this great montage of some of the highlights, if you will,
if there actually were any during the debate. Let's take
a listen to those making.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Sure that we're able to make every single solitary person
eligible for what I've been able to do with the
with the COVID, Let's keep me with dealing with everything
we have to do with. Look, if we finally beat medicare.

(19:02):
The third time is between the doctor, I mean between
the women and the state. The idea that the politicians,
that the founders wanted the politicians to be the ones
making decisions about women's health is ridiculous. Only terrorists who've
done anything across the border is one who came along
and killed three, and his administration killed an ol Kaida

(19:23):
person come in and his administration everyone from the Union
Nation Security Council straight through the G seven to the
Israelis and now himself have endorsed the plan that put forward.
And in addition to that, we find that the impact
on the choice that black families have to make relative

(19:47):
to childcare is incredibly difficult. Number three, we found ourselves
in a situation where if you take a look at
what Trump did in Ukraine, this guy told Ukraine told
Trump do what whatever you want, and do whatever you want.
And that's exactly what Trump did to food and encourage him,
do whatever you want. And he went in and listen

(20:09):
to what he said when he went in. We have
one thousand trillionaires in America, I mean billionaires in America,
and what's happening. They're in a situation where they in
fact paid eight point two percent in taxes. If they
just paid twenty four percent or twenty five percent, either
one of those numbers, they raised five hundred million dollars
billion dollars.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
I should say, I have to say one of the
lines that I thought was so and I didn't even
find it funny. I found it sad that it had
to be said, but it did when former President Trump said,
I don't think I understand that last sentence, and I'm
not sure he does either.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I changed out in the way that now you're in
a situation where they're forty percent fewer people coming across
the border illegally. That's better than when he left office.
And I'm going to continue to move until we get
the total ban on the the total initiative relative to
what we're going to do with more border patrol and
more as President Trump, I really don't know what he

(21:09):
said at the end of this, and I don't think
he knows what he said either.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Look, we had the safest border in the history.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Of all right, well let's stop it there. I appreciate
the way he did that. It wasn't sarcastic. He didn't
roll his eyes at him, look at he. I think
that he really represented this seriousness and both the sadness
of the situation. I mean, this really wasn't a debate,

(21:35):
and I appreciate that that was the only thing that
was said, but in fact it was very relative to
everything he had been hearing and all of us had
been hearing that night. Now I still talk to people
and look, I get it. Hey, nobody's asking you to
date Donald Trump. Okay, he's not available anyway, he's married,

(21:56):
but nobody's asking you to date him. I'm not looking
for boyfriend here. These are the two choices that you have.
That's it. I know and understand a lot of people
would prefer two other people to be running right now.
But that's not what you have. That is not what
you have. A friend of mine was talking to me

(22:17):
the other day and he said, it's like this, Rose,
think of it. Look this way. You're walking down an alley. Right,
things are a little scary all around you. You're in
a bad environment, Okay, lots of stuff going down. There's crime,
there's this, there's that fentanyl, all this stuff going down,
threats of war, war, You're in an alley, there's thugs

(22:37):
all around you. Think of the thugs as like Kim
Jong un and putin see think of them that way,
these thugs, Who do you want to go down the
alley with? Who are you going down that dark alley with?
That's what you have to ask yourself.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Now.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Here's what shocked me, honestly, and I'm very rarely shocked,
but I was shocked by the number of people that
were shocked by President Biden's to debate performance. You had
Democrats who were shocked. They said that there were reports
that top donors were emailing each other asking how to
convince Joe Biden to persuade Joe to drop out. She

(23:17):
would never. I want to tell you something. After the debate,
she was having the time of her life. She was
a focused She was the focus of attention. She's up
there and she is performing, and she is loving it.
Trust me, she's loving it. She's not going anywhere. She
doesn't want him to go anywhere. Donors were wringing their
collective hands via texts and emails after the debate. Major

(23:40):
Democratic donors were asking themselves, what do we do about Biden?
That's a headline in the New York Times. Major California
donor left a debate watch party early and emailed a
friend with the subject line utter disaster donors asking for intervention.
One tech industry donor he had planned to host Biden

(24:01):
and a fundraiser reportedly canceled the event because of the debate.
Some donors said that they were skipping an event in
the Hamptons after mister Biden's disastrous performance and that debate.
So there's the Democrats that were shocked by this shocked.
Then there's the Democrat lawmakers. In a Boston Public radio

(24:22):
interview on Friday, State Senator Jason Lewis made the comparison
to a train that's headed for derailment and a fiery crash,
and he said, in your choice is to, you know,
jump off that train. It's scary, he said, we may
break a leg when we jump off, but that's a
lot better than dying in a train crash. And that's
where our party in our country are headed. On the
track we're right on now. Wow, Okay. A Democrat lawmaker

(24:51):
said this was like a champion boxer who gets in
the ring, passed his prime and needs his corner to
throw in the towel. Felt that Biden should exit the race.
And there's others that said it's time to talk about
an open convention and a new Democratic nominee. That's a
second Democratic lawmaker who had been a solid Biden supporter.

(25:16):
Then another group of people that were shocked by all
of this, And again I'm shocked that they were shocked.
Time dot Com, Time Magazine, Time dot Com it's time
for Biden to step aside and give Democrats their independence
this July fourth, clever, I like that. Carolyn Randall Williams wrote,
do the historic thing, President Joe Biden, give the Democratic

(25:38):
Party our independence. It would be the most executive order
the world has ever seen. It's utterly within your power
to give America its first woman president. Grant history that gift,
Grant your legacy that gift. It would complete a career
defining democracy. Celebrating suite of sound advice. Actually, she makes
a very compelling argument there. Tom Friedman, also The New

(26:00):
York Times, wrote that he had wept as he watched
the debate from Lisbon. Joe Scarborough, host of MSNBC's Warning
Joe and President Biden, supposedly really likes that show. He
had a similar message, saying that he loved Biden. But
he's calling his presidency and unqualify and he's called it

(26:20):
an unqualified success. But they're all calling for this, They're
all surprised by what happened. The highly respected and liberal
website The Atlantic published six articles on Friday, all arguing
for and into the Biden candidacy. The Guardian. We are
all a bit nervous about the debate, but no one
thought it was going to be as bad as it
was really. New York Times after it told him to

(26:43):
drop out of the presidential race. Following that debate on Friday,
the editorial board wrote that Biden is not the man
he was four years ago. Foreign diplomats, I don't think
they were shocked. The foreign diplomats all weighed in. World
leaders China, I ran, North Korea, Russia, they all waited in.

(27:05):
If you want to check it out Fox dot com,
it's got a story on Russia, China I ran, and
the others that weighed in after the debate, they all
ceased on the debate debacle to criticize our country. Donors
in Hollywood and Hollywood, I should say several major Hollywood
donors are threatening to stop supporting Biden or his reelection

(27:28):
if he stays as the nominee. Anonymous donors supposedly have
called for Biden to drop out or they wouldn't be
giving any more money to that party. And then someone
said that this was from Variety. An anonymous Hollywood donor
said that with all the text chains I'm on, people
are basically like, if he doesn't drop out, we're not
giving any more money. Another anonymous Hollywood donor told the

(27:52):
outlet that there was a sense that the money dried up.
Last night. About ten minutes into the debate, Bill Maher
gets blunt with fellow Democrats on he's going to lose.
He said, it's a parent. What shocks me is that
they are shocked. They are shocked, and then all these
things go through my mind, and I'm thinking, why did
he Why did they let him debate? Honestly, I told

(28:14):
everyone I knew they're not going to have a debate.
He's gonna he'll be sick at the last minute or
have a cold. I mean, these are things I said.
He's not going to make it. He's not going to
make it to that debate stage. There was no way
in the world I thought they would let him do that,
and yet they did. Hmm. There's a lot of thought
out there on why they may have let him do that,

(28:37):
But I wouldn't have and I wasn't shocked by the way.
None of that shocked me, and I doubt very much
it shocked any of you who are listening today. We're
going to talk about that and more coming up. You
are listening to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is
Rose love being here with this audience. You guys are awesome.

(28:58):
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for one Seawan eight hundred nine for one Sean. Those
phone calls and a lot more. Let's to talk about it.

(29:18):
I want to talk about the border. So that came
up a lot and it should as well. It should.
We'll be back. Okay, So we're back. This is the
Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose, and we have calls.
So let's take Morgan, who's calling from Oklahoma. Hey Morgan,
how's it going?

Speaker 8 (29:36):
Hey? How are you doing well?

Speaker 6 (29:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Well?

Speaker 8 (29:41):
I this is just gas lining to its finest. The
whole world launched Joe Biden vegetate for ninety minutes. I
mean that wasn't a debate, that was a filled cognitive
function test. He should have been removed through through the
twenty fifth Amendment within thirty minutes afterwards. A person like
that should never be in charge. They should be driving

(30:02):
a bus full of kids, much less have access to
the nuclear buttons. Oh my goodness, you know, Morgan.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
That's actually a really good point. And I thank you
for your call. I mean, I like how you put that,
because you know what, it's not even so much another term.
It's like, even right now, thank you, that's a great point.
Even right now, it's scary. Forget the next term, right
this minute. It's scary stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
And what do you.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Think that world leaders are thinking when they look at
all of this, They're thinking, looks like I got a
little more time here left to take advantage of this situation.
The thugs, And again I ask you, who do you
want to go through that dark alley with where there's
thugs lurking around every corner? Putin, gee, Kim, come on who?

(30:54):
And by the way, one of the biggest issues that
night was the border and people, well, you know, I
hate it when they say Trump was lying.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
Trump.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Let's let's talk about this because just recently I talked
to Chief Chris Klem and he's a former Chief Border
Patrol Agent and you know, a couple of things that
he said to me just really made a lot of sense.
And we talked about how immigration shouldn't be conflated with
border security, and that immigration and border security are related,
they're not mutually exclusive. And one thing that he brought

(31:25):
up was that there are false choices that our politicians
give us where this is concerned now. And I've had
Tom Homan on before, on here and on on my show.
There was a system years ago, and and and as
Chris was saying to me, it was more than just walls.
There is access, roads, technology, meeting requirements of border patrol agents. Hey,

(31:49):
this is what we need. This is what we're seeing
out here taking care of that camera, sensors, all that stuff.
And one of the things I talked about is how
this has become a political issue when in fact, and
this is so true of so many issues today, this
is not a political issue. This is a humanitarian issue.
This goes beyond politics. It should anyway. I mean, this

(32:13):
has to be the worst time in the history of
the border of our country. Honestly, we had other presidents,
even Democrats, that understood the importance of national security and
our borders. This goes beyond all of that. This has
become a humanitarian issue when you have unaccompanied miners unaccounted for,

(32:33):
eighty five thousand lost children, Where are they, what happened
to them? And why do we not care? Why do
we not care? Master sculptor Saban Howard next,

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