Remembering Molly - 8.24 - The Sean Hannity Show

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seventy four days, I've been telling you, and we've been right.
We've been ahead of the curve where there's no hyperbole,
no exaggeration, the single most important mid term in our lifetime,
and it's all coming to fruition. They couldn't stand Trump.

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They mocked, they ridiculed him the minute he and Milania
came down the escalator in at Trump Tower. They laughed
at the idea that he was running. They laughed at
the idea he'd win the nomination. They couldn't They couldn't
fathom any scenario. Even on even November, they couldn't fathom

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that Hillary would lose. The eggs of Poles showed that
Donald Trump lost everything. He lost Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina,
he lost Michigan, he lost Wisconsin, he lost he lost
it all. It was a wipe out the media. Well,

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we have an uncold authority that the plan that the
exampos was showing that. Well, it looks very good for
Hillary Clinton today, not even close. He did the impossible.
He won North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. And
guess what we're benefiting as a country. But that doesn't matter.

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It's always been and we had no idea these deep
state operatives were involved in all the shenanigans they were
involved in. And now it's become what I've told you
Now it's become what I've been saying for months. This
election is about five major things. They want to impeache Trump,

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but they're not telling you what they want to do that.
It's about Obamacare, how did that work out for you?
EEP and your doctor your plan and paying less? Good
luck with that. It's about they want the crumbs back.
Pelosi said it, Elizabeth Warren has said it that their crumbs,
nothing but crumbs. If their crumbs, why can't we keep

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the crumbs? You know what, sometimes, if you're hungry, crumbs
might not be so bad. I mean, there's a reason
that if you have dogs and love dogs like I do,
that if the crumbs fall from the table. The dogs
are loving it. And if that's all you got, crumbs,
you're gonna take the crumbs. That's the way it's gonna roll.
And of course we know they want to eliminate Ice,

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they want to open borders. They think there's a lot
of voters that will come into the country that will
be Democrats. That's their hope there. And then, last, but
not least, all their friends that are involved in all
of this corruption that we have been literally out on
a limb exposing. They want all their friends protected. Remember

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if Hillary one, you wouldn't know the name struck Page,
Comy McCabe, Yates, you wouldn't know any of this. None
of this would be known. And the fact, you know,
just go through everything that we know, because it's breathtaking,
it's staggering. You can't even really even believe that it's America,

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that all of this is happening in the United States
of America. But here it is. Every day we talk
about it, every day, we tell you about it. Every day.
There's no information about it. Every day the media ignores it.
And all they do is they go on whatever the
whatever the talking point of the day is stormy, stormy, stormy, Russia, Russia, Russia.

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But they are very very specific things that they want
to do if they are elected, and they one of
them is to get rid of the deep state. And
I sent this question, you know, with all the talk.
All right, we got Manafort. We got him on not
paying us to five tax fraud charges. It didn't file

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his taxes the right way from two or whatever onwards,
two thousand and nine onwards. And then of course he
lied on loan applications. Then we get Michael Cone this week,
we got taxi medallions and the same issue with taxes
and the same issue with loan applications. There are lessons
we can take away from all of this. Don't lie

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to the FBI. Or even if you don't lie to
the FBI, like General Flynn, and they illegally survey you,
they're gonna basically make you sign a plea agreement because
you run out of money and you have to sell
your house. Maybe that's the way the special counsel. You know,
thanks people for their service. Thirty years of plus of
serving the United States of America. You don't get the

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benefit of the doubt. Even though the FBI interviewers and
James Comey and Peter Struck all thought that General Flynn
was telling the truth. But we'll make him sign that
paper otherwise, well, we're gonna have to go after your family,
and like what father is not gonna dive on the
sword and say I'll take the hit for my kids
and my wife and every everybody else. So then you're squeezed.

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Oh excuse me. They put the screws to you and
the hopes you sing or compose like like Judge Ellis said,
So then you can prosecute or impeach Trump, which has
always been their goal. But back to the point. So
we've got everything out of the way about lying to
the FBI. Everything out of the way. But you gotta
pay your taxes. I advise you all to pay your taxes.

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And if you're applying for a loan, don't make up
bs on the loan application. That's all a bad idea.
And that's what we learned this week. Did we learn
anything about Russia Nope? Anything about collusion in two sixteen nope.
Did we learn anything about campaign irregularities are Donald Trump? Nope? Well,

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Michael Cohen did say that he did it at the
at the direction of Donald Trump, but he's had said
just the opposite, which I'm sure was part of the
plea deal. He got a better deal. But as that
was in the plea deal, those words probably saved him
five years in jail. And at that point, who complained,
Michael Cone, We're gonna get to Lannie Davis's stuff and
in just a second here, but these are the five

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things that are going to impact this election. That they
want to impeach the president. They want their crumbs back,
they want to keep Obamacare, they want open borders, and
they don't want to be exposed because we know that
there were people in the highest levels of the FBI
and d o J that rigged an investigation into Hillary

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Clinton and other words, that they literally were writing an
exoneration in May of sixteen, written by Struck and comey
Um before they ever interviewed Hillary or seventeen other key witnesses.
They didn't interview her until July, and come exonerated her
on on the on the fifth of July, three days

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after li second of July five. You know, and I'm
asking the Department of Justice this week, you know, with
all this back and forth with the Attorney General, and
the President. Does the Attorney General think that Hillary Clinton
violated the law. It's either legal or illegal to have
a private server with top secret classified information on it,

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or it's not. It's either a crime and a violation
of the law and a felony. Is the Espionage Act
says to destroy such information. I don't recommend that if
any of you are ever subpoenaed by Congress, by a
quarter or by anybody, that you delete your emails and
that you wipe your hard drives clean, and that you

(08:37):
bust up your devices where maybe those emails landed with
a hammer. I don't advise it. I don't think it's
gonna end well for you. And that's what I'm asking
the Department of Justice. That's what the President is saying. Well,
I agree with Jeff Sessions. We don't want to politicize
the Department of Justice. But these are fair questions. Are
these crimes are not? You know, is the Attorney General

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concerned about the exoneration before investigation? You know, then we
can move on to the FISA issue. You know, does
the Attorney General believe FISA court judges were lied to?
Now that we know the bulk of information, Grassley Graham
new Nest memos told us that the bulk of information
presented to the FISA courts was the steal dossier that

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Hillary Clinton bought and paid for by funneling money through
a law firm so it doesn't show up as a
op research expense, then funnel to Fusion GPS, then the
hiring of a foreign national. I thought that was bad.
We shouldn't have foreign nationals influencing our elections. That then
results in a dossier full of Russian lies that even

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the author of the dossier doesn't stand by when he
was pressed under the threat of perjury and Great Britain
in an interrogatory. Oh, I don't know if it's true.
It's just ray intel maybe fifty fifty you guess, you know.
Flip a coin. How did that become the basis of
a Fizer warrant to spy on an American not just
any American in the middle of a presidential campaign of

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Trump campaign associate American? And is the is the a
g concerned that these applications to spy on this quote
American that they never revealed even though they knew that
Hillary Clinton in the d n C paid for those
lies through the funneled money to the op research firm,
to the former spy, and the foreign influence in the

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campaign is. As the Attorney General concerned, Nobody involved in
these fis A warrants ever even bothered to independently verify
corroborate the salacious contents details in the dossier used to

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obtain the FISER warrants. The people in other words, that
signed off on it, the people that when they put
their name on it, as Rod Rosenstein did on the
last application, the third subsequent application, the third renewal application
for in total. You know, and he said in May,
what did he say that, Oh, we have an oblope,
we put our name to it. We've got to know

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that it's true. Well, there wasn't true, and we know not.
And even Lannie Davis is saying that the comments about
Michael Kohn aren't true, you know, being improgue, not true,
you know, but they all signed their name to it,
it all signed off on it. Steve Steals to he
Steel doesn't even believe his own dossier. And you still

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have people in the media still pushing this. We don't
know that it's thet Yeah, we do know it's debunked.
You got the guy's passport. It doesn't have PROD stamped
on it. Lie. There's no evidence of Hooker's peeing in
a bed in the ritz Carlton in Moscow. Wrong lie debunked.
Why is that bad? Well, good question, Hannedy. Why is

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it bad? It's bad because is at dossier. Those Russian
lies were designed to literally lie to everybody, all the
American people. So when they leaked the contents of the
dossier and the rumor, the lies, the propaganda, the misinformation,
the distortion, They're meant to influence your vote with Russian

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lies so you'll vote a certain way. And it didn't
work out for any of them, and all those people.
Just to bring a full circle, they're now piste off.
All their efforts, all they're conspiring, all of these activities
never gave them the result that they wanted. In the
words of Peter Struck, we will stop him. They didn't

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stop him. Now we're in the insurance policy point in
this whole thing. Now I'm gonna tell you how it's
gonna end. You want to know how this whole thing
I think is gonna end and when it's gonna end,
because I think I know the answer, but I'm not
gonna tell you right now because I gotta take a break. Well,

(13:06):
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We'll continue fighting the trumpat liberal media one day at

(14:39):
a time. Is the Sean Hannity Show. I got, I

(15:09):
got friends and what you know that really sucks? What
you just did? I said what you know? I'll tell
you where it's gonna end right after this message. I'm
not I didn't do it on purpose. I have a
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V and h I O and car MG. They just
get it. They have a very strict trafficking weather together
schedule that I can't miss. Um, this is where it's
gonna end. I know the media is recycling all news
old news all the time, and I know that you've
heard a lot in the last couple of days. Oh
my gosh. Uh, this guy David Packer of of the

(15:54):
National Enquirer and Dylan Howard. Dylan has been on this
program before. We like Dylan. We gotta along with Dylan
and the Dylan and they've both got immunity. Did you
see it, Hannay? You didn't see the news? And then
we find out that the you know, Trump c CFO
got immune. Let me let me calm everyone's hearts here.
It's old news. It was all a part of the

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lead up to the Michael Cohen plea that took place
this this week. Now, that doesn't answer the question where
is this gonna end. It's gonna end this way. In
my opinion, I think the fight is still ongoing. But
Mueller knows at this point, especially after the the whole
release that the White House Council Don McGann has spent

(16:41):
thirty hours with Mueller. Well, that's ostensibly talking to the president. Now,
in thirty hours, let's say they do get an interview
with the president and the president is says one or
two or three things that conflict with Don McGann's recollection. Now,
this goes back a while that Don McGann testified, and
they're acting like this is new news. It's not. They

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recycle the old news all the time, big breaking news.
Look at this like it's not big breaking news. It's
like they're lying to you because they want to artificially
pump this up. So the president would be in a
perjury trap. And what when Rudy said, well, truth is
in truth. What he's saying there is if the president's
recollection of something doesn't exactly match, say Don McGann's recollection

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of something, then it will be up to the special
prosecutor to determine who is telling the truth. Now, let's
say Don McGann's i'm not making it up, his recollection
was wrong, and the president's was right. They we already
know they hate Trump. He can't win. They are the
deciders in that moment, and in that sense, lying to

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the you know, lying on the oath them becomes a play,
and that's the perjury trap. How it ends. I'll get
into more details, but this is the summary. Robert Mueller
at this point, my guess is he does insubpoena to
the president, but he might still out there. He writes
a report. It is going to be an impeachment road

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map should the Democrats win in seventy four days. You
don't think this is the most important mid term in
your life, think again, I'll pick it up here when
we get back immediately thereafter. There's gonna be a Julianni report,
is my guess, and then it's gonna be okay, the
American people decide the top of the one Sean is

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our number. You want to be a part of the program. Um. Look,
that's the way I think it's gonna end. Do I
know for sure? No? Am I following it closely? Yes?
Am I worried and concerned. Absolutely. Uh. I'm not one
that ever takes for granted the vote of the people.
And if you want to know how I think this end,

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I would argue that based on the team that Mueller
is put together, the action that he has taken, the
fanaticism of the people on his team. You know, how
how do you get away with hiring Genie Ray, once
an attorney for the Clinton Foundation, to be part of
your special council team? Now that seems abusively biased to me,

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But what do I know, especially considering, oh, this is
the guy that beat Hillary Clinton, and the fact that
we've gotten gone so a far from where we were.
You know that the mandate has exceeded anything to do
with Russia, to the point where Judge Ellis says, okay,

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considering a filing of the Mantaphor campaign, that that Mueller
had exceeded his mandate and jurisdiction by even getting into
taxes and and real estate loans with money that had
nothing to do at all with Russia, which preceded any
relationship with Donald Trump, which had nothing to do with

(20:03):
the twenty sixteen campaign. But then after Judge Ellis views
the information, he concludes, Yeah, the mand aids that broad
and that wide. It's basically like take it. Let's say
you'll live on a bay, and let's say you can
see the other side of the bay, and that would
be like taking a net from one side and putting

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it all the way down to the bottom and going
all the way across. You're gonna catch everything. Anything that's there,
you're gonna catch. That's a fishing expedition. That's what we've
we've seen happen here. You know, remember Papadopoulos and General
Flynn and Paul Manafort and Michael Cone. There's no Robert
Mueller and there's no Trump collusion ridiculousness. Then we don't

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get here. You know, think of all the people that
have worked in the White House. You remember whole picks
worked in the White House. I guarantee, I don't know
for sure, I'm just guessing, but I guarantee you that
the legal bills for people that worked with Donald Trump
this is would include rights previous and Steve ben I

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forget about the personalities. Whether you like this one don't like,
that doesn't matter. I guarantee you the legal bills alone
for each one of those individuals probably exceeded whatever they
were getting paid to work in the White House to
the point it's not worth working in the White House

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anymore for anybody. And this is person after person after
person after person. Now I understand the thinking of of
you know, Ty Cobbs and John Doubt and maybe they're
gonna be proven to be right in the end, because
maybe I couldn't understand or wrap my mind around the
idea that the White House counsel who represents the president

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is there to represent the president would ever talk to
a special counsel, which makes zero sense to me to
this day, except that maybe that is the secret sauce,
along with a one point four million documents they sent
over in the hopes that this would put things to
rest pretty easy. You know, maybe that's what ends it.

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But it's gonna end. I think now, I don't know
about the subpoena issue. I don't think that the special
counsel of My guess is the following. My guess is
Robert Mueller wants the subpoena. You don't hire Andrew Weissman
with his background and track record of what tens of
thousands of Americans losing their jobs when he was doing
the in Ron case because and that all ended up,

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you know, a loser in the U. S. Supreme Court
nine zero, same guy that put maryal executives in jail
for a year, but that was overturned by the Fifth Circuit.
I guess people don't really give a rip if it's
not them. And but those people went to jail for
a year. I'm sure it was hell. I'm sure it

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sucked for the years leading up to this and the
defense and the decision of the deal whichever it was
at the time. I'd have to bring Sydney Powell back on,
who wrote all about this. But why do you put
somebody like that on your team if you're trying to
be fair and balanced? How does Bruce or have a job?
Random thought? At this point, he's been demoted twice. We

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know seventy contacts that he's had with Christopher Steele before
and after the election. Uh, we know he's anti Trump,
we know his wife or a profusion GPS. I mean,
can you get any more and can this get any
more insane? Now we've gone from Russia collusion, then we
go to taxicabs huh, what is what? And and tax

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filings from years before Donald Trump ever really thought he'd
run for president, And and then what do we got?
We got taxed, we got tax fraud lying on bank
loan applications. Good grief. It is just unbelievable. Now, my
guess is that that the Special Council probably wants to
subpoena of the President, which could lead to another year

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eighteen month fight, although others say it could be quite
much faster. They probably could even expedite that. But even
in an expedited fashion, it's gonna be a constitutional war
if it happens, And I don't think Trump's attorney has
ever given nor do I think I think at this point,
I don't think Trump will talk to them. Why should he?
It's a perjury trap. Who wants to be in a

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perjury trap. Don McGann talks to the Special Council for
thirty hours. Okay, he gives his best recollection. I'm not
questioning his integrity. I'm just questioning why they would ever
give up that privilege that they have. He didn't have
to testify, they didn't have to hand over a single document.

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But they're cooperating. They're trying to get this behind us.
Most exculpatory evidence comes from James Comey himself in this case,
when he puts in his notes that Donald Trump said
to him or I didn't have anything to do with
any collusion, but if anybody around me did, well, we
need to get to the bottom of that. Anyway, so

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he can't testify, So there could be a fight over that,
but probably there's got to be some sense of of desire.
I just I've got to believe that even though people
have views that's so alien to my own, that there's
got to be some thought here on the impact of
the country, what the hell is going on here and

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how divided the country is. I'm just guessing, you know,
at the end of all of this, it's not gonna
be whoever works for Mueller's name on this history. It's
gonna be Mueller's name on this So if he wants
that's a pedo fight, we'll see what happens. It'll go
to the Supreme Court at some point. White Democrats are
trying to use it. We can't confirm Brett Cavanan, Yeah

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you can. Brett Cavanaugh can be yes, he can be objective,
Yes he can. Um But I think that Mueller is
going to write a report, and I think that it
is going to be for the Democrats their roadmap, and
I think the roadmap is one of how to impeach
Donald Trump, how to overturn the election. This is the

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insurance policy on steroids unfolding before our eyes, and I
don't think it's gonna have anything. They'll mention Russia a
lot in the report, and they're gonna talk about the
the the the equivalence of the Russian formerly KGB of Russia,
the Russian intel people that they indicted that will never

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ever come to America and be put on trial. These
are indictments that are meaningless. They're put in place just
to say Russia, I believe, and I believe just like
the Russian bot companies, they're put in place just to
say Russia, Russia, Russia. I don't think Muller and his
team ever thought these bot companies, and I believe they're real.

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I but there's no doubt Russia as a hostile regime,
There's no doubt Putin is a is a corrupt actor
on the world stage and an antagonist of the United States.
Is not our friend. Doesn't mean we have to be
at war with them, doesn't mean we can't have understandings
with him. You want to defeat Putin and Russia, it's simple.

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Produce more energy and find a way to get it
to our allies in Western Europe. Check made, game over finished.
Putin's done, Russia is done. But then you have our
allies and NATO like Angela Merkel, you know, still putting
the lifeblood of their economy, some seventy five percent of it,

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in the hands of a hostile regime and a hostile
actor in Putin. It is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
We've got to figure out a way to get oil
and natural gas, which the President has now opened up
over to our allies in Western Europe. It's great for
their security and ultimately our security, and it will create
millions of high paying jobs for the forgotten men and

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women of this country. It's just basic, simple common sense anyway.
And then I would guess that after Muller writes his report,
and I believe again it is a roadmap to impeachment,
then Julianni and Jay Sekulo and that team would end
up writing their report. Again, I'm just speculating and just
watching this all unfold. It also fits the model that

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was set forth in the whole Clinton impeachment. And then
we'll get to a point where, you know, then if
the Democrats are in power, if this happens in seventy
four days, this is what is at stake. And I've
been saying for now a long time, and Hannity, you
repeat yourself, Yeah I do, because I never know. There's

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different people listening at different times. This election is about
the five things I told you. It's about. They want
to impeach the president, but they don't want to tell
you what they really want to do, and they're asking
people like Maxie Waters and other shush, just don't say

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it because we don't want to cont we're gonna act
like we have to do it, but we're gonna do it.
They've already decided, and similarly, they'll ignore all these other issues.
This is issued item to impeach the president, eliminate all
of as it relates to the abuse of power that

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exonerated Hillary Clinton from what is the most egregious case
of obstruction I've ever seen in my life, a slam
dunk if any of you ever did it. And then
of the Espionage Act, and then it gets into the
fires of Orange, it all disappears. In other words, those
people that abuse those top positions that we have exposed.

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Adam Shift shuts it down and then it will be
followed up by the way with investigation after investigation, and
the Trump, the Trump campaign, the Trump administration, NonStop investigation,
in other words, to paralyze what is now proven to
be a successful agenda that is putting Americans back to work,

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that is making the country safer, that is showing that
that eliminating burdensome regulation, lower taxes works. So they want
to impeach the president. They want to end the investigations.
They want their crumbs back. They're only crumbs, but damn
they want them back quick. They want every pennyback, and
maybe even more. They want Obamacare, that's it. And they
want open borders. Five things. And I've said for the

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longest time there were five forces working against this president.
And number one is something that probably a lot of
you had not heard about a couple of years ago.
It's the deep state. Just like many of you a
couple of years ago never heard of bleach bit. Who
ever heard of bleach pit until Hillary Clinton bleach bit.
If I'm the owner of bleach bit, I'm the happiest

(30:58):
guy in the world. That wow, leash bit is now
famous and Hannity gives us a free plug every time
he mentions it. You know, they're not paying for ads here.
And then, of course, you know you just you gotta
see this for what it is. You don't think this
mid term matters. Well, if you voted for Trump and

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you're happy with the progress, that's what's in play. If
you're ready for the country to be torn apart, and
it's gonna be a a knockdown, drag out brawl. Let me,
politically speaking, it's gonna be they, It's gonna be the
It's gonna be pretty much a declaration of a political

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war again again political it's gonna be You're gonna have
the intensity of the left that wants to bring this
man and take away the power that was given to
him a duly elected president. They're gonna want to do
that now. This interesting little sidebars by the way, the
President put talks with North Korea, little rock Man on

(32:00):
hold today because a lack of progress. Told Pompeioto canceled
this thing. Just you know, as the Democratic media is
two two times on cable TV alone in a single day,
impeachment assault on the president is backfiring. We got some
poll numbers and key midterm race is suddenly now moving
in the GOP's direction. Maybe this won't be a bad thing.

(32:22):
Washington Examiner points out Scott Walker has been trailing in
his bid for a third time. I think he's a
great governor. He won a recall election. This guy's been
through more elections than anybody. Um. The Marquette pole came
out this week showing Walker, tide and Senator Tammy Baldwin
want to tend Democrats running for re election and a

(32:43):
in Wisconsin, but she hadn't been considered especially vulnerable. She
led by seven team points um. However, she took uh
of the vote um and forty seven for her Republican opponent. Oh,
how did that happen? And we got a New Jersey
Even Robert Bernendez is leading by only six in New Jersey.

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I mean generic ballot polling is now tightening. Also, here's
another anecdotal piece of evidence. Political points out that the
RNC announced this week they notched up a record breaking
cash hall for July. The impact of Cones guilty ply
on RNC fundraising will be infinitesimal, according to some GOP

(33:26):
donors telling Politico, and the numbers bear him out. Four
team point two million in July, the best take for
a month in a mid term cycle, and almost twice
the amount of the Democratic Party and what they took it.
I hope that some hope that people are getting that
what I've been telling you forever, these five items is

(33:47):
what the elections about. Believe me, I'm gonna you're gonna
hear a lot of this after Labor Day. We're just
giving you a preview of coming attractions. All right, Sarah
and Greg, Well, when we come back, we had a
lot to get to today. Eight one Sean. Also, angel families,
people that lost loved ones to legal immigrants are gonna
tell their I mean, these stories break your heart, but

(34:08):
they're trying to warn us that it can happen to anybody.
What happendence that does Michael Cohne have that the President
knew in advance about that controversial Trump Tower meeting that
his son, his son in law, the campaign chairman at
the time, Paul Manafort, had with these Russians leading up
to the election. So again, at this juncture, I can

(34:29):
only say that he was peasant during a discussion with
Junior and Dad, and beyond that his testimony to the
Senate Intelligence and has Intelligence committees was accurate. So can
you say now whether in fact Michael Cohen has information
that President Trump was aware either before the Trump Tower
meeting that Don Jr. Was part of with the Russian

(34:51):
attorney claiming to be part from the Kremlin with Dornan
Hillary Clinton, either that Michael Cohen has information that the the
President knew about it in advance or knew about it
immediately after Senator Burn, Senator Warner read the answer to
the question about his testimony, which is that he said
he was not aware ahead of time and did not
hear um anything to the contrary, and that was the

(35:14):
testimony before the Senate as well as the House Intelligence committees,
and he said that that testimony was accurate. So Michael
Cohen does not have information that President Trump knew about
the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians beforehand, or you know,
does not. The presidents in titles of attorney generally has
faith in somebody that's qualified for the job, and I

(35:37):
think they will come to time sooner rather than later
where it will be time to have a new face
and a fresh force at the Department of Justice. Clearly,
Attorney General Sessions doesn't have the confidence of the president,
and all I can say is that I have a
lot of respect for the Attorney General. But that's that's
an important office in the country. And there after the election,

(36:03):
I think they will be some serious discussions about a
new Attorney general. All right. That was Lindsay Graham yesterday
and that made big news along with Charles Grassley, uh
Bob Corker, who's leaving Congress can't stand the President told
political he feels moves are being made to bring about
Sessions outstair from the Department of Justice. It's apparent to

(36:24):
me the President wants to do something to Attorney General Sessions.
But it's also apparent that in the interim at Sessions
owns him. Now, I'm not sure why, Why does it
have to be so personal and as much as could
it really just be? As the Attorney General clearly doesn't
like the president at this point. When he said yesterday
that the actions of the Department of Justice will not

(36:47):
be improperly influenced by political considerations, nobody's asking for political considerations.
All people are asking for is did Hillary commit crimes?
And if she did, why isn't she indicted? Did warp fights?
A judges lied to? Was false phony Russian propaganda bought
and paid for by Hillary through funneled money through a

(37:08):
law firm to hide the expense, and then funnel to
Fusion GPS to a guy named Christopher Steele, a foreign agent,
and that he present and propagate Russian lies and where
the American people lied to so they vote a certain
way before the election, And was the bulk of that

(37:28):
information the basis for not one, but four FISA court
warrants against Carter page a drum campaign associate, That's what
it is. Does he believe Hillary violated the law top
secret information on her server that she obstructed when she
deleted and and hard drives erased and device is destroyed?
You know? Is are they concerned about the exoneration written

(37:52):
before the investigation? Does Sessions think the FISA Court judges
were led to? Was there a fraud on the court?
Was it wrong not to reveal Hillary paid for that information?
Was it wrong not to say that even the guy
himself to put it together, Christopher Steele didn't even stand
by his own dossier. Is he concerned about the wave

(38:12):
of firing and resignations and the and the motions at
his Department of Justice because a rampant bias, abuse of power? Corruption?
In line? Why is Bruce or still employed there? Is
he concerned that nobody verified the information in the phony dossier? Anyway?
Here to join us on all this, Sarah Carter investigated
reporter Fox News contributor and Greg Jarrett his book YEP

(38:35):
still number one New York Times bestseller, The Russian Hoax.
Thank you both for being with us. Sarah, you wrote
extensively on this session Trump feud yesterday. Yes, and it's
obvious now that there's a point being reached in Apex
and Congress sort of speak, both in the Senate and
the House, where look, this is doing more damage to

(38:55):
the country than good. The relationship you know, between Jeff
Sessions and the president is very contentious. Obviously they don't
trust each other. The president needs somebody there, and it's
his right to have somebody there that he can count on,
somebody there that he actually has a working relationship with.
We know that relationship for now has been really damaged.

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And the point here, Sean, is not about whether or
not what the President wants to interfere or doesn't want
to interfere. I think what people in the Senate and
the House are seeing, those that I've spoken with, are saying, look,
this is detrimental to the country. The best thing that
could happen is for Jeff Sessions to either resign or
to be removed. And uh, you know, and they give

(39:40):
the president all the authority to do so. The few
that are supporting him in this, I think the bigger
question is here is what a Sessions thinking what does
he want to do. I mean, well, Tommy is he
expressed himself yesterday he doesn't think much of the president.
He you know, I called over there, and to be
fair to the Department of Justice, they actually took my call.
They answered my questions and the answer was what I

(40:02):
always get from them, which I understand is what they
have to say and do. But they can comment on
any ongoing investigation or potential investigation. So in other words,
they won't you know, they won't even confirm that anything
is being looked into. And the public watches all of
the double standard, and I think most people are pissed.
They are They're angry. People are angry. Every every person

(40:25):
that writes to me, that writes to you, I'm sure,
is frustrated and angry. And this is the regular this
is America are These are the people that aren't even
involved in the Washington bubble, who are so frustrated at
watching the Mueller UH Team Special Council go after everybody
around Donald Trump offering immunity deals to everyone. And then
they look at what happened with Hillary Clinton, and they

(40:47):
look at what's been happening with the FIS abuse scandal,
and even with Rod Rosenstein and his involvement in ethical
conflicts that have arisen from him actually asking the president
to fire James Comey and ainting out very clearly in
his letter to President Trump that the reasons why Comey
should have been fired. And now somehow he's in charge

(41:07):
of overseeing the special Counsel, which is including obstruction chart
you know, wants to move into obstruction against the president.
So there's a lot of frustration here. I think the
biggest question here is what is Jeff Sessions going to do?
Is he going to force himself to sit there? I mean,
who the heck wants to work for someone who absolutely
does not trust them and he doesn't trust the president.

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So this, I think really the ball is in Attorney
General Jeff Sessions court. I know there's a lot of
people that like him, even people that want him to
leave that like him, that are saying, look, you know,
Attorney General Sessions, you've been there for two years, You've
done your job, or you haven't done your job, and uh,
it's time for you to move on. So I think that,

(41:50):
you know, according to them, the right thing for him
to do would be to just submit his letter of
resignation and you know, tell the president you know, I
think that's going to happen. And let me just bring
Greg into this discussion because I think in a weird way,
although it's not true, in a weird way, Quarker is
right because in a sense, the president is savvy enough,

(42:11):
the people around him savvy enough to know that if
the President fired Jeff Sessions, we know how it would
portray and play out in the media and play out
among Democrats. And that is a Saturday night massacre. I mean,
they mentioned two hundred and twenty two times in a day, impeachment.
This is all the media and Democrats really care about

(42:33):
at this point. Well, if Jeff Sessions had an ounce
of integrity and conscience, he would resign should have done
a long time ago. Every day Jeff Sessions is the
Attorney General, he's doing more and more damage to the
Department of Justice, to the FBI, to Congress, which is
seeking lawful documents that the d J refuses to turn over.

(42:57):
Sessions is doing enormous damage to the treat When you've
lost the confidence of the president, it is time to resign.
Any decent person I happen to be one of the
I am accurately described as Sarah, I'm a guy that
always liked Jeff Sessions. I still think personally he's a
good guy. I just don't think he's up for this job.

(43:18):
But the difference between being nice and likable, which he
certainly is, and competent, which he has proven he is not.
He should never have disqualified himself from the Russia case.
He side of the wrong regulation. When he did it,
he was duped, which sells me he's gullible and naive.

(43:38):
You know, it's easy to be one of a hundred U. S.
Senators that don't frankly, do very much, very hard to
be the Attorney General of the United States running the
Department of Justice, and of course underneath that the FBI. UH.
But for his recusal, there would never have been a
special counsel. Mueller would not have and allowed to assemble

(44:01):
a team of partisans determined to damage Trump, undo the election,
and harm the nation at large. And if you want
to point the finger of blame at anybody, Jeff Sessions
is the guy, all right? Let me well, and Sean
right on right on Gregg's point, and what you said earlier.
You know about the Dems and and those never trumpers

(44:21):
who are going to come after President Trump if he
chooses to replace Attorney General Jeff's Sessions. That what can
You can't even argue that this is a massacre because
Jeff Sessions has already refused himself from everything Russia. So
their argument is false on its face. I mean, if
he was in charge of the whole Russia investigation and

(44:43):
he was working against the president, Okay, I can see that,
But they can't make this argument that this is the
massacre when Sessions really has already refused himself from everything
Russia and it appears everything else. So this is a
problem about having the right people in place in your
administration to get the job done. And the president needs

(45:05):
to be able to communicate with his attorney general. That
is an absolute fact. Look, Eric Holder was, uh, you
know with President Obama for years. He was very close
to President Obama. They were they were allies. They stuck to,
you know, each other like glue. They were always on
the same page. This president has the right as every

(45:26):
other president to have somebody that he can work with,
and it's impossible for the president to work with somebody
when there's a broken trust. Well, I think that's all.
That's all legitimate, and and frankly, I don't think sessions
like the president. That's fine. You know, people at times
don't get along with each other. I want to get
into another issue that has come up and been reported.
It's actually four separate issues. That you have this guy

(45:48):
David Pecker, uh, Dylan Howard, they both work for a
m I and and that would be the National Enquirer
um and they're both very well known. Uh. Then we
have the report that Trump Organization CFO also has been
given immunity, that all three of them have been given immunity,
and that the Manhattan District Attorney is now looking into

(46:10):
issues involving the Trump Organization's charity, etcetera, etcetera. Well, the
first point is is that we've known for a long
time that the Trump Organization CFO testified already, and we
know that this goes back a number of months as
it relates to the National Enquirer, and what we're now experiencing,
Greg Jared is something that I keep calling recycled news,

(46:31):
as if it's pretty big breaking, earth shattering news every day.
All of this was factored into the Southern District of
New York's plead deal with Michael Cone. There's nothing new
here at all that they are reporting. This is what's
called piling on and it often happens, uh, you know,
especially in politics, when they think somebody's down, they pile

(46:55):
on top. Uh. Let's get to the heart of it
the Michael Cohen case. It's not a crime for the
president to contribute to his own campaign. Trump can spend
an unlimited amount of money on his own campaign. And
if Cohen made a payment for him with the intent
of it being reversed, reimbursed, and it was that's an advance.

(47:16):
You know. At worst, it might be a civil violation,
the equivalent of jaywalking and a five penalty, which is
nothing compared to what Obama pay three hundred seventy dollars
for two million in illegal donations. Beyond that, it's probably

(47:36):
not even qualifying as a campaign expense. He had another
purpose to it. He'd done it before, long before he
was a candidate, for personal and commercial reasons. This was
explained quite nicely by the former chairman of the Federal
Election Commission, Bradley Smith, who said, you know, these payments
are not illegal under campaign laws, but try to tell

(47:59):
that to prosecutors in the Southern District. It's like saying
he's an unindicted co conspirator, but they didn't accuse. They
didn't accuse Michael Cone of a conspiracy. That's right. There
has to be an underlying climb in any conspiracy in
their heights. Stay right there, We've got to take a
quick break. Welcome back more with Sarah and Greg. At
the bottom of this half hour, John Sale he used

(48:21):
to work for the Southern District of New York. We'll
got his take on all of the week's unfoldings, if
you will, all right, went along. In the last segment,
we continue with Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett with us. Sarah
will give you the final remarks here. I say, this
airplane lands with a Mueller impeachment roadmap. If you will.
Should the Democrats win in seventy four days? Yeah, unfortunately, Sean,

(48:42):
I would tend to agree with you on that, But look,
we can't predict the future. Uh. It looks like the
Republicans have a really good chance of keeping the House,
even if it's bia slim margin. And I think in
the end, the American people will have their final say
they're exhausted of this mole or investigation. They want the
country to move forward. It appears that even those never

(49:05):
trumpers that were in Congress are now on the President's side,
some of them at least, and they're fighting to make
this country better. And I think eventually in the end,
hopefully that plane lands and it's a different ending than
what you just said. Hopefully the plane lands in America.
Can I can't see it. Get back to business, all right,
Sarah Gregg, thank you both. Eight one sewn Uh formerly

(49:26):
a prosecutor in the Southern District of New York and
Watergate assistant prosecutor. We'll talk about all these matters and
more straight ahead. So can you say now whether in
fact Michael Cohen has information that President Trump was aware
either before the Trump Tower meeting that Don Jr. Was
part of with the Russian attorney climbing to be part
from the Kremlin with Dirdan Hillary Clinton, either that Michael

(49:49):
Cohen has information the President knew about it in advance
or knew about it immediately after. Senator Barron. Senator Warner
read the answer to the question about his testimony, which
is that he said he was not aware ahead of
time and did not hear anything to the contrary. And
that was the testimony before the Senate as well as

(50:10):
the House Intelligence committees. And he said that that testimony
was accurate. So Michael Cohen does not have information that
President Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting with the
Russians beforehand, or you know, does not. Prosecutors have said
Michael Cohen broke the law, and Michael Cohen says, the
President told me to do it. You said last night

(50:31):
as well, that you believe that every president breaks the
law during an election. I mean, really does that make
candidate violates election laws when they run. He told you
what I said, candidates violent election. Just told you I'm
going back and you can get you can get back
to make it okay violations. It doesn't. But let me
be very clear. You're not letting me make my point.

(50:55):
The president doesn't break the law if as a candidate
he can meets to his own campaign. So if he
gave a million dollars to two women his hush money,
there would be no crime. Oh, forget about the law
and what it actually says and what it actually means
and everything else that we keep hearing. You know this,
this issue is not as small issue as it relates

(51:17):
to what was said, um, as it relates to you know,
Lannie Davis professing that, in fact, that that that Michael
Cohen knowingly knew that Trump knowingly colluded with Russia and
had knowledge of this meeting ahead of time, and then
said it, and CNN ran with it, and the Washington
Post ran with it, and then Lannie says, never mind

(51:42):
not it's like, you know, not a small detail in
any respect where please to have back John sale Is
with us and his background. Of course, he worked at
the very prestigious, important Southern District of New York, where
some of the best prosecutors in the country and out
history of actually spent time and worked there. How many

(52:03):
years you've been there? Were you there? Rather? I worked
in the Southern District four or five years. Yeah, and
you knew, uh, well, I forgot exactly what you said.
You knew Rudy had worked there, you knew my friend
Andy McCarthy had worked there, etcetera. Oh, absolutely, uh I worked.
I didn't work there when Rudy was the U. S Attorney.
He and I were prosecutors together and we prosecuted a

(52:24):
lot of cases together. As a matter of fact, you know,
a lot of people say, well, why is Rudy talking
so much? Why is Ruddy defending people so much? And
I was a little surprised once Trey Goudy actually said, well,
if you're innocent, Darnett, why don't you act like you're innocent?
And I'm thinking, if I'm innocent, I'm gonna want to
tell the world I'm innocent. That's how I would act,
That's my natural reaction. Well, there's a difference as who

(52:46):
caught the court room, and then there's a quote of
public opinion, and when you represent the president of the
United States and naive if you don't realize you're in
the quote of public opinion. Well, and I I mean
a big part of this now is going to be
an really firmly believe that at the end of the
day how this is gonna end up. And I don't
think there's gonna be anything about Russia and Russia collusion

(53:10):
at all, because I don't think it ever happened. And
I think had it happened, had there been evidence of such,
we would have heard about it a long time ago now,
So you can see that this case now has branched
off until all these different arenas. And it was very
interesting when Judge Ellis demanded after a filing by Paul
Manafort's attorneys in this most recent case that we got

(53:31):
the judgment on you know, eight counts guilty ten on
a hung jury. But when Ellis said he wanted to
see what it was in the mandate to Robert Muller
and whether or not a you know, a ten year
old tax charge, um, and a bank fraud case of
Manafort fit under the umbrella of what it is. The

(53:53):
mandate was for the special counsel. And then that's when
he made his now infamous comment about putting the screws
to Manafort. They don't really give rip about his taxes,
so he will sing or compose so they can prosecutor
and peach Trump. It seems that we're now often let's
see taxi medallions, lying on baked applications, paying not filing

(54:13):
your taxes, and paying the proper amount of tax, which,
by the way, those are all lessons people should learn
in life because you shouldn't do those things. I'm not
saying you should, but um. But it seems to be
really afar from what Russia collusion started out to be. Well,
showing then the Manifold case had absolutely nothing to do
with Russia, had nothing to do with the president. But

(54:33):
you and I can talk about this with all our
sincerity while Mr Manafort is going to be facing possibly
as much as ten years in prison for that. And
so Joe Ellis was correct in that comment he made.
Although it may have been a little bit injudicious, it
certainly was accurate. Uh. You know, this is a man's life,
a sixty nine year old man's life, and it's clear,

(54:55):
you know, the only reason he was prosecuted by the
Special Council was because of what they're doing. He could
have been prosecuted by another U. S. Attorney's office and
it would have been judged on its merits. Right, in
other words, the criminal system, we don't need a special
Counsel to go after people that didn't pay their taxes
in or whatever. Now that those are prosecuted if it's

(55:16):
the cases appropriate by the US Storney's officers every day.
But it seemed like they were dragging this out of
mouth balls that a decision had already been made back
in not to prosecute Well, I mean, the reason is,
obviously I'm not joining frankly in the characterizations of the
Mueller's offices being on a witch hunt or the Southern District.

(55:36):
But the facts are what they are. I mean, the
Manifolt case had absolutely nothing to do with Russia, so
called collusion or the president. Yet Manifolt is sitting in
a jail cell well. And then also there are people
that commit crimes, which raises a whole question that I
want to ask you about. But first I want to
ask you about Alan Dershowitz's comments a president can look

(55:57):
at the payment or the issue of the payment a
number one. I think it's atrocious that Lannie Davis. I mean,
now he's backtracking on what he had said, but it
became a huge, massive report at the time that you know,
he's out there telling people that Michael Cohen has information
that in fact he knew, that Trump knew, and Trump
was aware of and actually approved of the meeting at
Trump Tower, etcetera. With this Russian who met with Fusion

(56:20):
GPS leaders before and after the meeting, who turns out
also to be a client of Fusion GPS, I mean,
it becomes one big cluttered mess in my mind. But
but it turns out Michael Cohen didn't have such information,
and yet CNN runs with it, the news media runs
with it, and then he says, oh, never mind, that's
a big deal in terms of the press for the president. Well, uh,

(56:43):
Michael Cohen, what's very significant about him is he pled guilty,
but he does not have a plea agreement. I'm sorry,
I palm say he doesn't have a cooperation agreement, which
means it's a non cooperative play. In other words, is
what I think. That's the proper legal legal is to right. Correct,
But either way you phrase it to me, it means

(57:05):
that the prosecutors in the Southern District or not sufficiently
confident that what he's telling was the truth, or to
put it this way, they don't think he's a viable witness.
They think that he's told so many stories, so many
different ways, every which way, but sunday that they would
not use him if they bring any kind of a case.
Then why were the words inserted in that play agreement,

(57:26):
the ones that got all the attention at the direction
of and you're right, Michael had said something very differently.
I almost took it and this is just total conjecture
on my part, interpretation on my part, I took it
to mean they wanted that in there because that kind
of sticks it to the president. Maybe that helped Michael
get a better deal. Is that absolutely off the wall? No,

(57:49):
well it's not off the wall. Uh. I mean you
can say it, by the way, even though it's my show,
you can say Hannity or off the wall. A lot
of people say it every day. So it's fine. I'm
I'm showing him gonna say. I look forward to saying it,
but I can't say but I can't. But I can't
say it. If I can't say it about what you
just were saying, it wouldn't be something. In other words, well,

(58:09):
you know, look, you know we think that that happened,
and we're believing that happened, and well here's the deal.
If you say it happened, and here's the deal. If
you don't say it happened, I would that type of thing.
Is that? Well, something not possible. You know. I don't
want to say what's possible. What I want to say
is that in a case that frankly the whole world
was watching, I don't think he would have said that
as a surprise to everybody. So although I have no

(58:31):
inside information, I presume that the United States Astorney's office
knew that was going to be said, and uh be,
but it could have been part of a profer deal.
What are you gonna tell us if you tell us
that we might offer this to a sort of thing. Well,
but now, but you usually don't then say that in
the plea that's kept let's kept private. Uh it's uh

(58:53):
it clearly it was said for a purpose. Uh, and
you know that remains to be seen. You know what
crossing you just do all of them is they want
to go so called up the ladder, And what they
seem to be doing now is they're trying to make
a case going up the ladder, and up a lot
of means only one place, you see. I believe that

(59:13):
Robert Mueller. The way this ends is that Robert Mueller
writes his report because you can indict a sitting president. Um.
If I had to guess, I was leaning that he
would subpoena the president to testify. But I think I
don't think after knowing that thirty hours of testimony came
from the White House Council, I can't imagine that that
Robert Mueller wants that fight. It will become an impeachment

(59:37):
roadmap should the Democrats win in seventy four days, is
that far fetched? Uh? Well, Rob, the press has been
calling the president an unindicted co conspirator based upon what
Michael Cohen said. That's totally preposterous. First of all, what
Michael cohone said is only his accusation at the worst
case scenario, and he's not charged with the conspiracy. So

(01:00:00):
where's the conspiracy that the president could be allegedly an
unindicted copa That is so well said. I'm so that's
why it was so impressive with you when you were
on with us the last time. And yeah, I think
you're right, and you can indict a sitting president. But
more importantly, every smart lawyer I have talked to believes
the charges seven and eight in the Cone plea are

(01:00:22):
not even a violation of law. I don't know. They
seem to be throwing or public consumption. But you know,
I have to say the brilliant words. We have to
we have to see. Yeah. Oh, by the way, can
you repeat the part about how impest you are with me?
Can you repeat the part that you look forward to

(01:00:42):
beating the crap out of me like everyone else does?
I mean, that's fine. I can handle it. Obviously, I'm
a god. I have a big dartboard on my back.
No I do. But you still haven't said anything to
enable me to do that. And so far everything you've
said has been perfectly sensible. I'm actually fascinated by all
of it. But it's sad and another sense because of
in fact I'm right, and that Mueller is going to

(01:01:03):
write an impeachment roadmap and in the lead up to
the election, probably released sometime in October, and then Rudy's
gonna release his rebuttal to it, probably not long thereafter.
I mean, I don't know. I don't think the country
is gonna have a clue what to think, except there's
not going to be anything related to Russia in it.
And I think in that sense, I wrote an article

(01:01:24):
in The Hill in which I argued that the president
should not talk to the Mueller. I want to ask
you about that when we get back, and we'll pick
up right there, stay right there. John Sale is with us.
He worked in the Southern District of New York as
a prosecutor at the time. Rudy was there. Right as
we can continue with, John Sale is with us. Formerly

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of the Southern District of New York, former prosecutor Great Insights.
You know, we were talking about what what Mueller might
do and what Rudy might do in response to it.
I do think this is about impeachment. But I want
to ask you about this strategy that secutors often used.
I called the Sammy the Bull strategy. Here's a guy
commits nineteen murders, but if he's going to testify against

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the big guy, as you were talking about earlier, John Gotti,
well we're gonna not only give you a get out
of jail free card, we'll give you a new house
in Arizona and put you in the witness protection program.
And we saw this with Rick Gates and the Mantaphor case.
He got to pretty much a get out of jail
free card. Why do I feel that's bribery? Why do
I feel that's like paying a witness to say something
that there's something of great value they're getting on the

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other side of it, When in fact, if you listen
to the jurors, the numbers alone were enough to get
Mantafort in most of their eyes show. There was a
case about ten years ago in which a federal judge
held that that is bribery. Now that was reversed by
the appellate card, but that you're giving a thing of
value in exchange for something, meaning the testimony that what's

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the thing of value? The way I think about your
freedom jail card, Yeah, your freedom and and and conceptually
it is bribery. But there is a statute which uh
would apply to everybody else other than the government, meaning
other than the US attorneys. I just don't like the
tactic to me, to me that that needs to be reformed.

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Am I am I in a minority view here. I'm
I'm a very conservative individual. I want to live in
law and order tax You're in a major minority, and
that tactic has been upheld uh uh by the Supreme Court.
And think and McCarthy thinks, I'm nuts. Do you think
I'm nuts too? Ye? That tactic is going to stay

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and it can be abused. We what we need, what
we really need is to rely on good judgment and
fairness of prosecutors. Most of the time we see that
prosecui prosecutorial discretion. Yeah, most of the time it is sad,
but you know, most of the times is not good enough.
It ought to be all the time. But it's human
imperfection and the human temptation to get a big fish.

(01:03:59):
Isn't that part of it though, isn't it that you
know what that there? It's too much, It becomes humanizing
to some. In fact, I would even argue that they
don't realize. On the other side of this, You know
these witnesses for years or longer, their families, their friends,
their lives, the stress, the money, and you know, Lieutenant
General Flynn has to sell his home. All right, John Seal,

(01:04:19):
thank you so much, and we hope you'll come back again.
Hight nining for one, Shawn told free telephone number. You
know how many more people are gonna be killed by
illegal immigrants before we don't we realize that we can't
have sanctuary cities and that we've got to obey the
rule of law and that the wall will help. Straight ahead,

(01:04:40):
coming up next our final news round up and information
overload our They have been so willing to move the
gold post every single time with this president, no matter
what he says, no matter what he does. Right the
fact that he was even sworn in its president after
the Access Hollywood tape. Let me know for a fact,
that they're Bublican Party is actually not working on behalf

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of the American people. They're working on behalf of Donald Trump.
And he's been able to bully them into their silence.
And I don't think that today change is much. Unfortunately,
I'm sure we'll hear what he has to say about
this at his his rally. A Fox News is talking about,
you know, a girl in Iowa and not this a
person has been charged with that. This person is an
undocumented immigrant, um Mike Pants. And the President has suggested

(01:05:23):
the immigration laws need to be stronger so that people
like this man who was accused of this murder, we're
not in the country. Your reaction, my I'm so sorry
for the family here, and I know this is hard
not only for the family but for the people in
her community, the people throughout Iowa. But one of the
things we have to remember is we need an immigration
system that is effective, that focuses on where real problems are. UM.

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Last month I went down to the border and I
saw where children had been taken away from their mothers.
I met with those mothers who had been lied to,
who didn't know where their children were, who had had
a chance to talk to their children, and there was
no plan for how they would be reunified with their children.
I was discussed by Senator Elizabeth Warren here and her
speak today, and what I need, what I want to

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say to her is stop lying to the American people
because you don't care what is happening to the victims
of illegal alien crime. Because if you did, you would
be standing up for us and you would be doing
something about it. That last comment was maryam Mendoza, a
longtime friend of this program, and she was taken on
Elizabeth Warren stupidity and oh the MSNBC contributed this. This

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girl in Iowa that Fox News is talking about. MARYA
Mendoza is the mother of Police Argent Brandon Mendoza. He
was killed on May the twelve and a head on
collision and the driver was an illegal immigrant. Let's see
hiah metha and phetamine and his blood alcohol content was
over three times the legal limit. Also joining us another

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friend of the program, he too lost his son, Steve
Ronnebeck is with us. His son Grant, was twenty one
years old working overnight in the convenience store, murdered while
working there in Mesa, Arizona. The killer was an illegal
immigrant who was released by ICE in after a conviction

(01:07:14):
for burglary and kidnapping involving drug dealing, if I remember correctly,
in that case, it actually held a woman hostage for
almost a week. Also joining us, Agnes Gibbey. Her son
Ronald da Silva, was murdered in two thousand and two
in California's in An Empire by illegal immigrant gang member
Louise Gonzalez, according to reports in that case, and it's

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just unbelievable. Welcome all of you to the program. Uh,
My thoughts and prayers are with all of you always. Marianne.
I admire your your your courage, your willingness to take
on the stupidity of some that really just fight basic,
simple common sense. We can protect people like your son,
who you was so proud of. And I am amazed

(01:08:00):
daily that these politicians um continue to protect illegal alien
criminals in our country. And like I said on Tucker,
you know, we have pleaded with them to please look
at what's happening to American citizens. And it's not just
the American citizens who are killed, Sean. I mean, there's
a rape epidemic going on in North Carolina. There's huge

(01:08:22):
amounts of identities aft happening right now with our military
men and women because of the leak with military information
a year or so ago, and they're being affected immensely,
and the crimes just go on and on and on
and on. It's just such a deep seated, um you know,
awful thing that's happening to us. And to think that
they would even refer to her as an Iowa girls

(01:08:45):
instead of standing up for their fellow American infuriates me.
The Iowa girl has a name, and her name is
as Molly Tibbitts. Your son has a name, Steve Ronobak's son,
Grant has a name. These are real people, real lives,
real family LEAs, And you know, I've gotten to know
many of you over time. Steve, you're one of them.

(01:09:05):
Like mary Anne, I don't even know how you do
these interviews, but you're doing it to warn other parents
that this can happen to them too. Oh absolutely, And
And you know, I just want to say, and I
know I can speak for Agnes and Maryanne, that that
from my family to the Tibbott's family, that our prayers

(01:09:25):
and condolences and we're just so sorry that they've had
to join the club that nobody should be part of,
especially at the hands of an illegal immigrants. The you know,
that just hit me like like a sledgehammer in the chest.
The other day when when they found her and then
a few hours later they said it was the illegal
alien that killed her. It just goes to show you

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that are the liberal side of our government is not
ready to put the American people first. They're not ready
to fight for American citizens. They have their own agenda.
Elizabeth Warren is disgrace. And what she said about the
Iowa girl your right. So she has a name and

(01:10:07):
her name, Yeah, that was the MSNBC contributor that said
that part. But I gotta tell you something, I found
it cruel. There's a certain you know, I have this
uncanny ability, uh Steve, that I wish I almost didn't have.
And it's called empathy. And I'm listening to you and
Mary Anne and Agnes is with us today, and I

(01:10:28):
have met so many other families, and I just somehow
I can look into your eyes, hear your stories and
see the pain that maybe maybe it lessens a little
bit here and there, but it never leaves. You're never
gonna get over the fact that you're twenty one year
old son who's working an overnight shift, he's producing, he's

(01:10:50):
he's building, his life is no longer with you. Every day.
I just I don't know. I listen, I don't know
if I survived. I don't know how you few people
do it. I don't know how you make it. And
we just keep fighting, and we keep fighting to protect
other American families so that this doesn't happen to that.
And that's what keeps me going. Yeah, and Agnes, you've

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you've been through this pain too, call us about your son, Ronald. Yes,
I have, and I lived with it every day. And
first I wanted to say to Molly's family, my heart
goes out to them. I was extremely touched and moved.
It opened a huge scab on my heart. Uh. This
country should be filled with empathy, respect and concern for

(01:11:31):
American citizens and for the victims that have lost your
lives in this insanity. And uh and I agree with
with ron and Uh. Mary Anne, Senator Elizabeth One is
a disgraze and embarrassment to this country. What kind of mother,

(01:11:51):
what kind of woman is she to reduce? Uh? Molly
Tibbets to Iowa girl, that person, that girl had a family.
She ought to be ashamed of herself in our country
needs to start focusing on American citizens. As a legal
immigrant myself, I find find it incredibly offensive that this

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country is not protecting citizens in legal immigrants, but giving
every protection to illegal aliens. And another thing that really
really bothers me is how they reduce them to undocumented immigrants.
They are not immigrants, they are illegal aliens. You know,
I don't know what when you came into the country.
I keep saying, just I don't repeat myself, agness, In

(01:12:37):
case you've never heard me say it, I don't care
that people come to the country. My grandparents, all four
of them came at the turn of the last century,
poor from Ireland. I mean, nothing in their pockets, you know,
ten bucks. I only want one thing. Just do it
like you did it. You did it legally, so we
can check your background and we don't have drug trafficking,
human trafficking across our borders. I've been down there twelve times,

(01:12:59):
I've in it with my own eyes, and just to
protect the American people, and that's all we're asking. I
don't think that that's common sense to me now, and
there is a process. It took my family twirteen years.
They applied three times. The first two it lapsed. They
have to start the process all over. This is why
it's so important to vet people too. They have to

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go through full background investigation, full medical that you pay.
You have to pay out a pocket for all these things.
That's a small price to pay to come to such
a great country. But people like me, they're legally immigrated
into into the country. We assimilated, We respect and honor.
This is my home, this is my country. I didn't

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have a choice where I was born, but this is
my country of heart, and I will fight to the
end for my country. And that's why vetting is so important.
Like this guy that killed Wally Christian, he said or
he blacked out. Well, obviously if he has an anger issue,
he blacks out. We don't need people like that in
our country. Get them out. There's so many countries and

(01:14:05):
I'll throw those to marry in and um, you're right,
but there's that they have merit based immigration. But there's
also you know, we could have people that come for
a season. They can work. If you know, look at
our unemployment rate, it's so low now we actually have
more jobs available than we have people on unemployment. I mean, okay,
then maybe that's an opportunity to bring people in and

(01:14:25):
give them an opportunity. But as long as we check
out your background, we don't care where you come from.
If we build the wall, I'm all in favor of
the big door in the wall, as long as we
check people out. Just like people that grow up under Shariah,
that is the antithesis of our constitutional republic that they
grew up under. I want to know that they share
our values before they come here. It's it's hard for

(01:14:46):
them to assimilate into this country. And um, you know,
there are good people who come to our country. I
agree with that. But the criminal element and the lenient
leniency shown in our court systems to these illegals who
are giving less lesser cent sences an American citizen would
for the exact crime that you know that they have committed,
and they're an illegal alien president in our country. On

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top of it, this should be holding more of a
punishment for them. And the fact that a lot of
times all they do is deport them when we have
a purse border the way we do, I was just
down to Glenn Spencer's ranch in southern Arizona. And and
there's a bob wire fence is all that separating Mexico.
I climbed through the bobwire fans and climb back in
two seconds. These are not the protections that America needs.

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And these criminals that are deported after they've committed heinious crimes,
they're back over in a week. And because Steve and
Agnes and I are privited a lot of these articles
that aren't out in mainstream media, they're back fifteen, sixteen, eighteen,
twenty two times, and they're committing heinous crimes every time
they're here and every time they're deported. And this isn't

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you know, I'm still getting guss out of it from
a lot of people. You're a racist. This is not
a racist problem. And this is not a way that
liberals are going to deflect from this problem. They have
to face it head on. These are legal aliens, which
means they are people unlawfully present in our country. I
don't care where you've come from and what race you are,
You are illegally president in our country. And this is

(01:16:09):
what all three of us are fighting. This has to stop,
you know, uh. I want to give Steve another opportunity
to speak here because I just want people to hear
your message because you you have lived through this. You
have you know, we hear about Kate Steinley, we hear
about you know, this young woman Molly Tibbitts. And I
know people some have heard your story, but many have not.

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And there's so many others. I bet I don't know
how many you all know together. I mean, I'm sure
you've met a lot of these parents. I've met a
lot of them over the years, myself, Steve. Yeah, and
you know Marianne and I and Magnes and and Laura
Wilkerson and I know she's a friend of the show.
We've got to love her. She's amazing. Yeah. And you know,

(01:16:51):
we get to meet these people and we get to
hear their stories, and I don't think there's any one
of us that doesn't shed it here with that family
member because we know their pain. I put out a
post the other day about you know, can you imagine
the pain that this family is going through? And at
the end, I said, I can. And then you know,

(01:17:12):
there were several people that I didn't even know we're
out there. They posted a picture of their loved ones.
And and I met a woman in Indiana. She doesn't
want to do media, but it happened to her family,
you know. And by the way, we talk about separation issues,
which happened to near Obama and Donald Trump actually fixed
it through executive order, but it really needs to be

(01:17:32):
done by law. I don't think what he did through
executive order is even constitutional, but he did it um
and we need to fix the laws. And the only
thing I will say to you is, you know, there
are so many people that have literally you know, it
reminds me of Eric Bowling was on the show the
other day, Steve, and he said, my son died of
he bought a Zanex that was laced with Fenton al

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And I want people to know it can happen to them.
And he's right, and so were you a matter if
it's going to happen to you, it's a matter of
when anymore. With the amount of crime that's happening against
American citizens. And we have formed Angel Families angel Families
dot com. The website is going to be it's a
it's a shell right now, but it's being built Sean,
and we've got I mean, we have got an influx

(01:18:17):
of Angel Families that are reaching out to us so
that we can get their stories out and so that
people don't think, well, it's just Steve and Agnes and
Marianne and Laura and a few others who are out
in the news. We are bringing these people to the light,
and the American public is going to find out very
very soon how many of their fellow Americans have been
affected by illegal alien crime. All right, we'll take a
quick break. We'll come back more with Angel Families. Will

(01:18:37):
tell you more about their web We'll tell you about
their website when we get back. As we continue with
Agnes given E, Steve, Ronnebeck, and Marry M. Mendoza. Right,
as we continue Sean Hannity Show, Angel Families. Now they
have a website. We'll tell you about in a second.
Agnes giveven E, Steve, Rona Beck, Marry M. Mendoza all
lost children. Uh yeah, because of the illegal immigrants in

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this country. Real quick, Steve, I cut you off. I apologize.
That's all right. You know, it is very inset and
what I want to I want to instill in the
public is this is kind of like a rape victim,
and I hate to use that analogy, but it is
so many rape victims are afraid to come forward or
they don't want to come forward. There are so many

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of these families out there that have lost loved ones,
or they've had loved ones become addicted to heroin, or
their child may have been a rape victim to illegal
alien and they they don't want to come forward, they
don't want to go through the agony of it. But
you want to get a run that they can't listen.

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You're all amazing people, um frankly, far better than stronger
than I think I could ever be. I'm so sorry
and each one of your cases, Agnes, thank you so
much for being one of those. Steve, thank you, Maryanne.
It's always a pleasure to talk to you again. And Uh,
I know you're fighting for other parents and other families,
and I hope people hear it and we could do
things that are compassionate but tough and smart and just

(01:20:04):
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candidate that could beat Elizabeth Warren next. Alright, we're gonna
get to your calls in a second, first, I want
to introduce to you Jeff deal Is, with a Senate
candidate Massachusetts running against Elizabeth Warren Um and well, he
had some interesting comments to say about Warren's comments about
the death of Molly Tibbotts and his latest campaign. Had
My son, Matthew Genis, was twenty three years old. He

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was kind, caring, outgoing, He was more than I could
ever have hoped for and a son. My son was
killed by someone who should never have been in the country.
The only thing that has changed since Matthew's death is
the death toll. It's estimated that there are twenty people
a day killed by illegal aliens. That's over seven thousand
people every year. My son is dead because too many

(01:21:54):
politicians and local jurisdictions put illegal aliens ahead of Americans.
Very four story and the news that has to do
with Molly tibbots the young woman in Iowa who was murdered.
A person has been charged with that. This person is
an undocumented immigrant. We need an immigration system that focuses
on where real problems are. I went down to the border.

(01:22:15):
I met with those mothers who had been lied to,
and there was no plan for how they would be
reunified with their children. And that's the latest add of
Jeff Deal, Senate candidate Massachusetts running against Elizabeth Warren. Uh, Jeff,
that's a tough ad. What's the reaction in Massachusetts been
to it? Well, Sean, thanks for having me on, and uh,

(01:22:36):
I'll say you people in Massachusetts disappointed once again with
Elizabeth Warren. Just two weeks ago, she made that comment
down in New Orleans that the entire criminal justice system,
including law enforcement, are racist. I think people were extremely
upset with that. Then to have that pretty heartless turn
from talking about the family to which she considered to
be the real problem, which was families being separated at

(01:22:57):
the border, people illegal immigrants over American citizens. That really
has caused people to get upset. Where where was she
when Obama did the same thing? And why doesn't she
applaud it? Was President Trump. I don't even think it's
constitutional as executive order, but he he passed it anyway,
he signed it anyway, now I know. And by the way, Sean,
the other sad thing is two days ago when she
made this comment, it was the seven year anniversary of

(01:23:20):
the loss of Matthew Denise. That's Maureen Maloney's son. That
was Maureen Maloney's voice in the audio you just played.
She I asked her if she would introduce me at
the convention that six months ago when I won the
Republican nomination to run against Elizabeth Warren. Maureen is an
angel mom named by Donald Trump um to that group.
So she speaks nationally about this issue about illegal immigrants

(01:23:41):
killing American citizens. Those are the ones that are separated
from their families permanently. And that's the problem with Elizabeth Warren.
She doesn't seem to even want to acknowledge or recognize
the problem. In fact, she's going the other way. She
wants to eliminate ice, and of course she's villainized law enforcement.
Let me ask you this. Look, well, I know, Bill, Well,
there's been a there's been uh Scott Brown as an example,

(01:24:03):
Massachusetts every once in a while, kind of surprises of
the country. Although let's be honest, they're more liberal Republicans.
I'm not even a member of the Republican Party. I'm
a registered Conservative in New York. But um, it's not
unthinkable even in Taxachusetts. And I lived five years on
the border with c. Konkin Swansea, Massachusetts, and I remember

(01:24:25):
it well. I lived in Rhode Island five years. Um,
but it's an uphill climb. If a Republican wants to
win in Massachusetts, why do you think you can unseat her?
Especially with her well our national fame shooting through the roof.
First of all, Sean, you remember Scott Brown being the
forty one vote against the Unaffordable Care Act. Massachusetts was
the blueprint for that plan. And yet we still send

(01:24:48):
Scott Brown because he explained how financially it wasn't gonna
bet any benefit anybody. Of course, nobody's gotten that two
five dollar annual savings. I lead in two fourteen a
repeal of the index gas tax here in Massachuset. It's
putting two billion dollars back in the pockets of people
and businesses. And uh so that's been one another indicator
of how fiscally aware voters in Massachusetts are. And I

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will tell you this, Uh, Donald Trump got more votes
in Massachusetts than our Republican governor Charlie Baker, who is
one of the more popular governors around the country. So
on paper, the votes are out there. In this ask
you this helped your campaign in your opinion, if Donald
Trump went into campaign for you. Absolutely, he's twenty Democrats
unenrolled to vote for him in the primary. I was

(01:25:31):
the only Republican who actually endorsed Donald Trump. I was
his co chair for Massachusetts. And he is delivering on
all the promises. Economically, Massachusetts has country leading low unemployment
three point five percent. We have over one point two
billion dollars in new revenue because of the job growth
and wage increases because of the tax reform bill that,
by the way, Elizabeth Warren voted against, and she called

(01:25:53):
it crumbs, just like Nancy Pelosi Massachusetts. By the way,
that just crumbs. Why does everybody want their crumbs back
so badly? If it's only crumbs, let us keep it.
People in Massachusetts will vote what's in their financial interests,
and they know with me that I've cut taxes and
I want to continue to progress that's happening in Washington,
and Elizabeth one wants to take that country back to
a socialist agenda of higher taxes as she wants. You know,

(01:26:16):
obviously government run healthcare, which doesn't work. We know the
price tag on that thirty two point six trillion dollars.
If she wants to implement that, Uh, and Elizabeth one
again is so out of touch with the reality. She's
putting the interest of people who are not citizens over
those of Americans. And I think the Tibbets family they
deserve an apology in my opinion from her for not

(01:26:37):
for being so basically unsensitive to the issue. Uh and
and really just trying to make political points out of
this whole thing. Well, so, I can't really even admit this,
but it's the truth. When I lived in Rhode Island,
I I could not get enough of watching Larry Bird
and Parish and and d J, Kevin McHale, Danny, Danny Ainge,
you know, going up against Magic Johnson and Showtime in

(01:26:58):
Los Angeles one of the greatest moment. It's an NBA
history watching that rivalry is one of the best ever. Um.
But as a New Yorker, that's the death sentence for me.
Just so you know what I'm admitting here, it's a
bad thing. Um. Well, listen, we wish you a lot, Jeff.
We're gonna follow your race. It sounds like you have
your pulse on the people of Massachusetts. I do think
it's a long shop. But if people in the era

(01:27:19):
of Trump, people need to believe anything can happen. But
we have the most important election I think in our lifetime,
this mid term, which is coming up in just seventy
four days, and we're going to follow your race closely.
Thanks for being with us well. I appreciate And people
go to Deal for Senate dot Com they can be
involved in helping me out as well. Thanks all right,
Jeff Deal running in Massachusetts eight nine one, Shawn is

(01:27:40):
our toll free telephone number. Let's say how to Kevin
is in Virginia Beach, Virginia on the Sean Hannity Show.
Happy Friday, Kevin, how are you showing? It's a pleasure
to talk to you. I'm watching our federal government fall apart.
In essence, then, I'm wondering why we're not looking at
the fact that Mueller is actually in a way holding

(01:28:01):
Uh what's the word I'm looking for? Um, maybe blackmail?
What are you saying? What are you suggesting? Blackmail? How
can we not be looking at the fact that we're
holding over someone's head, uh three hundred years in jail,
uh to get him to flip? I mean to me,

(01:28:23):
that is nothing. Well, I mean it's like Rick Gates
and the amount of four cases. The big example is
Sammy the Bull Gravano kills nineteen people, but if he
testifies against John Gotti, they'll give him a get out
of jail free card and a witness protection program home
in Arizona. I mean, there's there's something. And as John
Sale pointed out, it had once been ruled by a

(01:28:44):
corpate since overturned. The overturned that that is a former
bribery something of great worth, which is somebody's freedom. You
can't put a price on freedom. Well, what kind of
an offense can the right mount to go against? It's this,
It just seems so futile. Uh, it's just that. Guess
when you go to the voting boots, you get to

(01:29:04):
speak your mind and nobody gets to know. But but literally,
I've had people come at me because I had a
little one bumper sticker on my truck that's Tromp on it.
And it's just amazing. Listen, you want you you want
to guarantee that your life is over, I'll tell you
what you do. Let's say you get a subpoena. I
want you to delete the emails. I want you to
delete the hard drive. I want you to bust up

(01:29:25):
your devices. You want to want to know what else
you get to go before any judge. Don't corroborate the information,
just kind of make it up as you go along.
Don't perfect purposely omit key facts to the judge. See
how well those maneuvers would work out for you. Which
is the point I made in my monologue on TV
last night and on radio here yesterday, is we have

(01:29:45):
a two tier justice system, and it is The President
even tweeted a lot about this this morning. If if
you care about justice and equal justice, and if you
care about equal application of American laws, you believe in
our constitutional republic, which is is rooted in a system

(01:30:06):
of equality, we better get this right. Because if we
don't get it right, and we only selectively prosecute people
that we politically disagree with and criminalize political differences as
a country, we're done. It's intentity that that's hyperbole. It's
not hyperbole. And I'm telling you cannot use the justice

(01:30:27):
system as a weapon because you don't like somebody's political
point of view, or in the case of Donald Trump,
the Great Disruptor, you don't like his style. That's really
what it comes down. Look, he's like, as I've been saying,
you take a pool after it's been sitting all winner
and you know, you know all the algaes growing in

(01:30:48):
the spring, and you open up the pool. It's disgusting
and you gotta kill it. So what do you do?
You shocked the pool? Well, Donald Trump is a shock
to the entire poll, political insider, swamp sewer infrastructure, and
all those people that benefit from the sewer. They kind

(01:31:08):
of hate his guts, not kind that they do, and
they want to destroy him and they want to bring
him down. And Mueller is going to provide the roadmap
in his report. That's how this You want to know
how this story ends, It's gonna end with his report,
the Julianni report, and then the voters decide. That's how
I guess it ends. And then you the people. You
don't think this is an important election, Oh it is one,

(01:31:30):
Shawn told free telephone number. You want to be a
part of the program. Right. That wraps up what is
a huge and busy newsweek. But let not your heart
be troubled, because why you have the weekend. We'll come back.
We'll be ready for battle political battle on Monday. As always,
thanks for being with us. Have a great, safe, fun weekend,
and we will see you back here Monday. And uh

(01:31:52):
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