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March 16, 2023 31 mins

Sara Carter, Fox News Investigative Journalist and Lt. Chris Olivarez, spokesmen, with the Texas Department of Public Safety discuss the Border Patrol Chief, Raul Ortiz’s, testimony before the House Homeland Security Committee yesterday, that we have no control over what is happening at the southern border. 

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The head of the US Border Patrol on Wednesday yesterday

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told lawmakers the agency does not have operational control of
the US southern border, and he also said that the
migration levels were at a crisis level anyway. The chief's
name is Ryule or Tease, and he was testifying before
Congress and speaking at the House Homeland Security Committee hearing
in McAllen, Texas, and was asked a lot of questions,

(01:53):
and he also said that they made a mistake by
not finishing the border wall that was started by Donald Trump.
I want to place some of his testimony from yesterday
where he testifies that we have three hundred and eighty
five thousand, quote, goataways at the border since the beginning
of this fiscal year. Now, remember last year, we have
one hundred and sixty seven people on the terrorists watch

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list that we caught. How many goataways got in that
were on that list, we don't know. I guarantee you
there were some. Then he pointed out and testified that
Biden's policies are the reason for the border crisis. And
then he said that they don't have the DHS does
not have operational control. Then Morgan Latrelle, a congressman from Texas,

(02:40):
was questioning the border patrol official Stephen Cajun over an
explosive device at the border, saying that the Biden administration
is lying to us, and I know the media is
all over Marjorie Taylor Greenfresk in the same question, who
you could you know? I'd like an answer to this question.
Let me play all this for you. This is one

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of the issues I see between they and I respect
everything that both of you do and every way there
works for you. But the breakdown of communication and the
silos that we work in is which detrimental to this
country right now? And if there is an explosive device,
if the car tales are using explosive device against our agents,
that changes the narrative. So can I answer, My job
as the assistant director over Transational organized crime is not

(03:22):
domestic operations. Our domestic operations. Folks that work in the
field day in and day out are the ones that
communicate with the border patrol. I'm saying me personally, I
do not know. I can get back to you and
let you know whether HSI as a whole nose and
our domestic operations knows. I just wanted to clarify them,
thank you. So I would assume that the two individuals

(03:45):
that you report to, Sir, have reported to Secretament may
orcus about this explosive device, which tells me that mayorcus
Is reported this to the President and nothing has been
said or done to the American public, and Congress had
no idea this was going on. Now, if this is
the case, and we're surging money hundreds of billions of
dollars across the seas to secure everybody else and we're

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not doing anything here, in my stating, in our southern border,
that's a problem because that means that they're lying to us.
All right, joining us now, investigative reporter, Fox News contributor,
our good friend who knows the border better than anybody,
Sarah Carter. Also joining us, Lieutenant Chris Oliverez, a spokesperson
with the Texas Department of Public Safety. Anyway, thank you

(04:29):
both for being here now. Sarah, you at this committee
hearing yesterday. Tell us how you felt it went and
where are we Well, it was a fiery hearing, Sean,
and you laid it out pretty clearly. I mean when
Chief Board Keys, I've had an opportunity to speak with
him in the past. Remember, he works for the Biden administration.
He's the head Customs and Border Protection, the border Patrol.

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He is walking a really fine line and he's not
gonna lie about. And I think that's what everybody was
so in with. They were so impressed with the fact
all the lawmakers that chief or teens. Although he walked
that fine line, when it came down to the nitty gritty,
he admitted it. He said, we have absolutely no control,
basically operational control over our nearly two thousand mile border

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with Mexico. And he's having issues up north as well,
and all of this, And this is where I thought
it was the most important point. He said, this was
a policy crisis, and I thought that's where he just
immediately went after the Biden administration, his own administration. He said, look,
this is a policy crisis, not necessarily a humanitarian off

(05:38):
the top or national security. The policy crisis is what
led us to this. And you talked about Marjorie Green,
Marjorie Taylor Green, as well as Congressman Latruelle talking about
this device. I went ahead and I did a little
bit investigating. I had a chance to talk to Congresswoman Green.
I also spoke to other congressional members there, and I

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got in touch with some of the border patrol agents
that were actually at the location when the device was found.
The device so Marjorie Taylor Green and the other congressman
all Latreuelle or telling the truth, and the media lied
and said that they were wrong. Did the Biden administration

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deny it too? Well, this is the thing they were
told by Border Patrol agents that were on scene when
they located this apparent device, that the device the Border
patrol agents set and it looked life and explosive device.
They believed it to be an explosive device. They watched
someone walk out to this area called No man's land

(06:43):
set the device down, and that's when everybody went in
to see what was going on with this device. What
I think is so interesting to me, Sean, and what's
so important here is that the device doesn't need to
be an actual activated device for it to not be
a threat. I spoke to a lot of people, you know,
in US intelligence. I worked in war zones a lot
of times. Cartel's terror members they will go ahead and

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plant a false device to watch what our law enforcement
personnel will do, how will they respond, what will they do,
where will they come from? And that's part of watching them.
And I know we've got Lieutenant all of our us
here on the line as well, and he and I
talked about this at length, but this is definitely something
that the cartels do as well, just to kind of

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see how we're going to react. So the questions were legitimate.
Marjorie Taylor Green, the congresswoman, as well as the Congressman Latrelle.
They were not lying about this. They just wanted answers.
And the interesting thing was Chief or Teeth said, oh,
I had been briefed about this in a skiff, which
is a highly classified location, and I don't think we

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should talk about it publicly. And then within like twenty
minutes after the hearing, he issues a twitter, you know,
he sends out a tweet and issues a message saying, hey,
this was just a ball with Stand and leaves it
at that. Well, you know, that didn't answer my question.
They didn't answer the congressional woman's questions, and neither the
rest of the congressional members that were there. I think

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that there's a lot more to this, And if it
was just stand, why not say it, you know during
the hearing. That's a great point. Why did it it
was only sand? Why did you need to be briefed
in a skiff? That doesn't make sense either. Lieutenant Chris
Oliver is, let's get your take on this, hey, Sean, Yeah,
so great to be with you. So yeah, of course.
I mean I think that here yesterday actually exposed the

(08:31):
reality of this current border situation, the fact that we
have failed policies that have caused potentially this border crisis.
And you order from the chief from the Border Patrol
who actually came out and said that this situation is
happening because of failed policies, and we knew that from
the very beginning, and that's why we saw this increase
of people coming across a border, and not just so
much asylum seekers, but also the gataways. We have all

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the one point four million known gataways that have made
it past law enforcement that are in the country right now.
We don't know whether at and what their attentions are.
That's not only a national security pit but also public
safety to it as well. And you think about the
amount of drugs that have come across unlicit drugs, meth
and fed I mean, even fetinal having to deal with
a fetinal crisis now where you have tens of thousands

(09:16):
of Americans that are dying because of this crisis, and
the fact that there's no acknowledgement or accountability from the
federal government to go after these criminal organizations, to designate
the cartails as terrorist organizations. Governor Abbott did it last
year at the state level, but this requires a federal
response and the question needs to be raised is how
many more Americans are going to die because of fetinal

(09:38):
poison until this government takes action and go after these
organization and stop the flow of drugs that are coming
across our Polish border. Right now. I mean, these are
unbelievable times where live in Gotta take a quick break
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to most folks. Like a crisis, well, look it's way
down now. We've now gotten control precisely that the border

(10:22):
is closed nor could I have been clearer and continued
to be so. Which is, the border is closed. The
United States will continue to enforce our laws and secure
our border. The border. We are working to make the
border more secure. You're confident at this border secure. We

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have a secure border in that that is a priority
for any nation, including hours in our administration. We agree
that the border is secure. All right. We continue at
Sarah Carter and also Lieutenant Chris oliveraz about Biden's disaster
at the Order where we learned yesterday that the DHS

(11:03):
has no operational control of the border. Another reason why
Mayorca should be impeached. Sarah, you have chronicled this so well,
and that is all the fetinel that's coming across that border,
the human trafficking, the cartels, you know, the treatment of
even young women and girls is beyond the evil. Then

(11:24):
you got cocaine, Then you got heroin and opioids and
metha and fetamine. It's basically a wide open border, and
we're on track this year it appears to break a
record of last year, and last year was over five
plus million illegal immigrants entering the country. That I mean,
that's ostensibly wide open borders. Sean's it's a war zone.

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It's a war zone. I remember just sitting there at
the hearing, listening to everybody talk talking about this device,
talking about the fentanyl poisonings that are happening across our nation,
over one hundred thousand deaths, and Chris, all of ours
and I when we're out on the border, all of
the children that are intercepted by thank god, by law enforcement,

(12:07):
by the Texas GPS and others who are out there
trying to save children, and you know, trying to save
our own children, trying to save their children. And let's
not forget, let's not forget that we have China, an
adversary of the United States that is threatening us openly
right now, along with Russia, and they're taking advantage of

(12:28):
this wide open border, and we're sitting here completely exposed,
completely exposed. It is a beyond a national security threat.
And now you have Obrador, the President of Mexico, saying, oh,
you guys don't have we don't have set in all here.
He is literally lying, well, it's even worse than that.

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He says, it's safer in Mexico than it is the US,
which is such an insulting dig at the US, but
it is rooted in some reality and that was you know,
as a result of defund dismantle Nobel laws. We do
have unsafe cities and towns all across the country. We
did have five hundred and seventy four riots in the

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summer of twenty twenty, and nobody seemed to give a dam.
There's no hearings on that. They only cared about the
one hearing where they would ignore major intelligence that was
not adhered to. That they wouldn't even listen to the
Capitol Police Chief's request for the National Guard. They just
wanted a bludgeon Trump, so that that's the only one
they cared about. But it is insulting by the Mexican president.

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I will say that, oh absolutely. And I think that
you know, even with a Lieutenant Olive ours, you can
talk about how DP has Operation Loan Starts, had to
take on literally the job of the federal government. And
you know, right now what we're seeing is a full control.
We're seeing not just the pseudo narco state, but an
actual narco state operation in Mexico. Literally, we are living

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next door to anarco estate because the government of Mexico
refuses to take any action against these terrots. Yeah, let's
get your final word, a Lieutenant Chris Olivers, Well, I
feel you se I mean, of course, you know, if
it wasn't for where Governor Abbitt did back in March
or twenty twenty one, this crisis first started by launching
Operation none Star, which is a statewide comprehensive board operation.

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There's no telling how many more criminals will be getting
by our border patrol agents. So many more drugs will
beginning by our borders, especially criminals. We have seized over
three hundred and sixty five million lethal doses of fetinal
just in the state of Texas. These are drugs that
already made it pass. And by the way, just what
we have been able to confiscate, how many Americans can
we kill? How many times over? Well, that's being a

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sixty five million doses, that's being sixty five million people
that could potentially die from the amount of fetinale that
we have seized. So we can kill essentially every single
American in this entire country, just based off what we
seized in the state of Texas. So again, if it
wasn't for Dominor Rabbits stepping in, taking that practice approach
and doing a job or the federal government. We would
see this continuous illicit drugs coming across our borders, and

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we talk about the cartels Sean. The cartels have evolved
into a parallel government. You think about how there's no action,
especially in Mexico to go out to these organizations because
they've been able to expand their criminal network throughout the
United States, especially now more so in the past two years,
because there's no consequences. They recognize that we have weak leadership,

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so they take full advantage of that. They take full
advantage of the fact that we have a forest border.
There's vulnerabilities, and that's why you see so many people
coming across that border as well as drugs, and yet
there's no action being done on the federal level. So
that's why these cartels have been able to operate with impunity.
They continue to obtain military grade weapons both on the
US also weapons that are being imported from Guatemalath, these

(15:47):
armories that are being that are being purchased through Iran,
through South Korea. These weapons are being obtained and its
ruggle in to Mexico to the piate cartels. These cartels.
Have you know forty Millis grenades, skitty caliber machine guns.
You think about the RPGs, all the weaponry they have,
that's that's This is a tinderbox. This this can explode

(16:10):
any moment. Uh. You know the incidents with Americans being
killed near the border, that could be the canary in
the coal mine based on what you're both describing here. Anyway,
I have to run. You're right about Governor Rabbit as well.
He's done a great job. He's had to do Joe
Biden's job because Joe Biden is too busy aiding and
abetting the law breaking at the border. Sarah Carter and

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Lieutenant Chris Oliveriz, thank you so much for being one
of us. We appreciate it. Uh. Tony in Texas? What's up, Tony?
How are you glad you called? Sir Sean. I'm good things.
It's an honor to speak with you. The honor is
all mine. Well, I'm driving across the Texas Panhandle and
it's a fun fact. This is one of the only
places on Earth where the wind blows and sucks at
the same time. I'm not sure i am I'm gonna

(16:55):
even ask for an explanation. But I hear what you're saying. Hey, well,
here's the deal. You know, I've heard you say on
numerous occasions. You know, you go to war with the
army that you have, not the army that you want. Well,
yes and no, I mean it depends what we're talking about.
If you're talking about a real war. I mean, if
I say that about COVID, I'm saying, all right, we

(17:15):
don't have monoclonal antibodies, and we don't have this, and
we don't have that. But some people say that HCQ
is harmless. Experts like doctor Daniel Wallace out at Cedar
Sinai in Los Angeles said that in April twenty twenty
two that there's no harm, no risk at all. His words,
not mine. Okay, so use what you got, but you're

(17:36):
right in every case. You can wish for what you want,
but you have what you have. And I think that's
my point with this situation is we have what we
have in a geopolitical conflict. You go, you go to
that place with the leaders that you have, and sadly
we have a commander in chaos that is totally forfeited

(17:58):
our respect around the world and the fear of our opposition,
and so I'm shammocks quite frankly, I look at this
situation with the downing of the drone. I'm not sure
but what it was just a rogue pilot. I mean,
all I know about fighter pilots. It's what I learned
from Maverick on the top gun movies. Listen, you can

(18:19):
learn a lot from that. Actually, But listen, I hear
what you're saying. Let's look at both sides of this.
I mean, we've had some brilliant calls today, and yours
among them. If you look at it from both sides, Okay,
you're right, it's what we're stuck. We have an incompetent,
you know, president of the United States that is weak

(18:39):
and frankly impaired cognitively, and Russia knows it, and China
knows it. And you know, we have the balloon incident,
nothing happens. Now we've got this drone incident, and it
looks like nothing's gonna happen. And I'm saying that if
you want to stop aggression, you've got to show strength.
You're basically telling me we don't have strength in our president,

(19:02):
so we should probably just take it Am I reading
that right? No? I guess my point is granted, you know,
the only assertive, decisive action the President Biden has ever
taken is when he grabs that spoon and shoves it
into the ice cream. Other than that, he's not done
anything to take action. But I guess my question for

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you is what action should we take? You know, I
keep thinking what would President Trump do in this situation? Well,
it wouldn't have happened with President Trump, and I'm gonna
tell you why. And I had way more sources when
he was president than I have now, But I will
tell you Vladimir Putin, President she Kim Jong Un, the
Iranian Mullahs, the Taliban in Afghanistan, they all knew in

(19:46):
no uncertain terms. There was no ambiguity that they were
told directly what would happen if they did this, this
or this, And you know what, there was a little
bit of that he might be crazy enough to do
it in these leaders. You know, look, just because people
are evil doesn't mean they're dumb and stupid. You can
be evil and be very clever and smart. Unfortunately, and

(20:09):
you know you're you're raising a point here, because my
gut instinct is You've got to show some strength here,
and it should be coming from our military leaders. They
should be insisting on it, and that would be you
take down our drome, would take a down two of yours.
You can start there. Let's that's a mild response to me.
And then you're saying to me, okay, Vladimir Putin still

(20:32):
is assessing Biden's too weak and he's not going to
go any further than that, and he might retaliate, and
that is a risk you take. The question is how
much of this are we going to take as a country.
I only know one. I only adopt one philosophy, and
my philosophy is strength, peace through strength. You know, because

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I let's put it this way, because I have had
my entire adult life a license to carry a firearm,
because I've trained the mixed martial arts. I am a
minor student. Please, you know. Everyone say, oh, he's talking
about his stupid martial arts again. I'm a student. It's
a passion of mine. I share it with my audience.
I train four or five days a week, an hour

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and a half a day, and I put that time aside.
That is sacred time for me because I have the
confidence in being able to defend myself. I promise you
you might see a video one day of people trying
to pick a fight with me and me walking backwards
with my hands up in a very very peaceful posture.
And then maybe, you know, when I get far enough away,

(21:36):
I would run on video and maybe look like a coward.
But you know something I'm not. You know, I just
don't want to hurt somebody, and I know I have
the ability to do it. Does that make sense? Oh?
That makes perfect sense. And the problem right now is
we cannot have that posture in that piece through strength

(21:56):
approach because we have a leader who has shown over
and over again that he is weak and he is
unwilling to take action. So I guess the question again
in my mind is with that leadership in place, well,
what are we supposed to do? I mean, I can't.
You are making a very very very intelligent, well thought

(22:19):
out point. However, we gotta believe that somebody, some high
ranking military officials are in there. Like for example, Iran
was attacking our targets in Syria. And what did Donald
Trump do? Well? He used intelligence. He got the number
one terrorist of Iran, Solomoni, and they followed him for

(22:43):
two weeks and he got off an airplane and they
had a confirmed visual on the ground and they took
that sucker out. What did he do with the caliphate?
You know, but he doesn't even get credit for beating
back the caliphate. The Caliphate grew under Biden and Obama
because of their weakness and decimated them. He bombed the
living Adams, shift out of them into oblivion. That's how

(23:07):
you fight a war. If you're gonna fight it, you
fight it quickly, you fight to win, you leave. That's it.
That's only one way. Now, if you're asking me, our
military needs to step up and tell our commander in
chief if he can focus for a second, and if
somebody can remind him that today is Thursday and we
need to there's got to be retribution here, because it's

(23:30):
all it's gonna do is incur further aggression. It's all
that's going to happen. And it's not just going to
be you know, don't forget President Chief's watching this and
he's got his plans all drawn out to take over Taiwan.
And I'm going to tell you what Joe Biden's response
is going to be. There nothing, He's not gonna lift
a finger, agreed, But yeah, I mean, let's look at this.
The military officials who have the ear of the President,

(23:52):
Millie Austin Kirby, they're all more involved and energized by
equity and inclusion. I know I'm reading this. The amount
of billions of dollars being spent on our woke military
is madness to me. And our military spending money on
climate initiatives, this is madness to me. And we're in

(24:13):
a bad spot because what you're basically rightly pointing out
is the US is in a very weakened position right
now because of weak leadership with this radical agenda. It's bad.
It's there's no real good answer here, Sean. I appreciate
to taking my call in confirming that I am not

(24:34):
totally crazy, and no, you're not crazy. It's it's but
both sides of risky here. I would err on the
side of strength. If you're asking me, and I'm taking
into account every observation that you made that is correct.
I am taking into account that we absolutely it has
been assessed by every major foreign hostile regime and actor

(24:55):
that our president is weak and frail and a cognitive mess.
So we're in a bad spot. However, doing nothing to
me is the worst option. But it's not an easy
call either. I agreed. You know, Thanks Sean, I really
appreciate it. I appreciate Listen, you're I think everybody listening
to us right now is thinking and understanding that this

(25:17):
is a real, clear present danger to our country. It
scares the hell out of me, to be honest, this
is the stuff that keeps me up at night. Then
I think about, Okay, well what about escalation. I mean,
this weakness, can you know, it can evolve very quickly
and to a worldwide you know, confrontation and these new

(25:37):
alliances that I keep talking about under Trump, we had
a great alliance that Trump built that I never thought
would be possible of my life, in my lifetime, and
that was the US, Israel, the Saudis, the Emirates, the Jordanians,
the Egyptians. Do we have some disagreements with those countries, yeah,
but they were aligned in with intelligence, they were aligned militarily,

(25:59):
and they were lined against a very evil regime that
news reports are telling us is getting awfully close to
getting nuclear capability, having nuclear weapons, and that would be
the Iranians. Now the Iranians. They are now partnering with
the Russians, and they're now partnering with China, and then
we've got North Korea on the periphery. This is not

(26:21):
a good and safe time in this world. I'll tell
you that, because all the territorial ambitions of all these
countries is now coming to fruition. And they're being as
bold as to send spy balloons over our airspace into
our country and we do nothing. You know, they're being
bold enough to take out a drone, a United States
drone over international waters, and we do nothing. I don't

(26:44):
know that way. I don't understand that thought process of
doing nothing. You know, if you punch me in the face,
I promise you I am going to is you better
knock me out, because if I'm not knocked out, I
am going to beat the living hell out of you.
That's all. That's how I was up. I don't ever
want to hit to anybody. I'm a very very peaceful person.

(27:05):
I will back up. You can call me any name
you want, and I will walk away, and I do
it very peacefully. Linda, why are you laughing? I'm I'm smiling.
There's a slight difference I don't know that peaceful is
the right word. I think that you are comfortable with confrontation,
which I consider to be a very positive Yeah. I
don't think that you are peaceful so much as agreeable

(27:26):
when the situation calls for it, confrontation if somebody being attacked,
right for example, like if you if you saw a
dude hitting his wife or his girlfriend or a small child,
you would I know I would, right percent. But I
think like you're one of those guys, like if you
saw two guys like trying to fight each other who

(27:46):
were drunk outside of a bar, you'd be like, all right,
just knock it off and not get involved. I probably
say that's between these two drunk idiots. You're probably you know. Um.
I've had people you know, come up to me or
they usually do what I call a hit and run.
It's usually they see me, they identify me, f you,
and then they're running out the door. They're so brave.

(28:07):
They're so brave, they really are. I admire their braveness.
I mean, it's courage. It takes a lot to run.
I was gonna say something really not nice. I'm gonna
I'll lock it up. Wait a minute, I think I
want to hear it now because it's not fec appropriate.
I know, I know what you're talking about. You know,
it's listen. I wish there was not evil in the world.
I wish there wasn't, you know, I because it complicates

(28:29):
everything on a small level. You deal with evil people
in your life. Right what it is my faith teaches
me we have to forgive people um when you can,
you know, turn the other cheek when you can. On
the other hand, if somebody is threatening, you know, let
me give it, let me be back up. People ask
me for advice, knowing that I'm I say, I'm a student.

(28:51):
People say, oh nity martial arts. It's not about me
and my martial arts. But there's a lot of discipline
behind it. The discipline of work out every day, the
discipline to listen to my sense a, the discipline to
take it on pain day, the discipline you know, to
really master at times complicated maneuverings if you will, or

(29:14):
techniques that you use. All of that is I But
I tell people when they ask me, well, what do
I do? I love For example, any woman that would
ever ask me what do I escape quickly, my first
option would be is get close to the person and
take your thumbs and drill it right into their eyeballs.
If somebody's trying to really hurt you, somebody's trying to

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hurt your child, you know, or take you and put
you in a van, or put you in a car.
You know, don't ever get in that car. Chances of
ninety nine point five percent you're not ever going to
be seen or heard from again. So if you believe
in God, go see God right there, end it right there.
But your goal is to incapacitate, So you take you
two thumbs, you dig it into their eyeballs and gouge

(30:00):
and then turn around and run. You know, I'm trying
to win the fight. You're trying to get away. And
you know there should be simple, basic things that people
know how to defend themselves, that their family, their children
that they don't know. You know, right, You give me
any we do situational self defense. You give me any situation,
and I have seven options available to me at any

(30:23):
given moment. All right, that's gonna wrap things up at
today we are loaded up tonight LJ down in Florida,
spring break madness. We'll get to that. We'll have the
latest on the banking crisis. We have Congressman Comber on
tonight as it relates to the Biden family with big
breaking developments. More Biden family members are involved. We'll tell

(30:44):
you about that. Kelly and Conway will be with us,
Tommy Lauren and Jimmy Fayla and Davia mcnowe. We'll got
a great show ninet Eastern Hannity Fox News Audience Show.
By the way, if you want tickets, Hannity dot com
is where the place to go and the tickets are free.
All right, We'll see you tonight. Say your DVR nineties
strung Fox back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this

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