Sean Hannity As A Guest

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I'm Greg Jarrett's sitting in for Sean Hannity today over

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the course of the next three hours. Why because Sean
is down in McCallum, Texas, with President Donald Trump. Trump
is there meeting with US Border Patrol agents, He's participating
in a round table on immigration and border security. He's
visiting the Rio Grand River and receiving an in person

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briefing on border security efforts. And Sean will be sitting
down with the President for an exclusive one on one
interview with President Trump. And as soon as Sean finishes
that interview, he'll be calling in here to his own show,
and Sean and I will be talking about what the
President said, what the President intends to do next, And

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be sure to tune in on the Fox News Channel
at nine o'clock Eastern time on Hannity because the entire
one on one interview with President Trump, conducted by Sean
Hannity will air in its entirety tonight on The Hannity
Show on Fox News Channel. That's nine o'clock Eastern time.
So lots to talk about here. Let's begin with what

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the president has done and what he may do next.
He met on Capitol Hill yesterday with Democratic leaders of
the House and the Senate other congressional leaders, and he
offered to sign all of the bills they proposed to
reopen the partial government shutdown in exchange for their consideration

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of funding. And the President didn't demand a specific amount,
but he'd like to have five billion dollars, but consideration
of some funding of a barrier. And as you know,
the President of the other night in his Oval Office address,
he was even willing to say, all right, it doesn't

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need to be a wall, it doesn't need to be concrete.
How about a metal or steel barrier, an olive branch
that the President extended to his critics and political opponents
on Capitol Hill, the Democrats who control the House, Nancy Pelosi,
Pelosi their speaker, and Pelosi said yesterday along with Schumer, no,

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I'm not going to do it. So the only offer
so far by Nancy Pelosi visa v. The wall is
one dollar. That's literally what's on the table. She jokingly said,
I'll give you a dollar, mister President, and that's where
she stands. The President is willing to compromise, has offered

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various options, and Democrats say, absolutely not, We're not going
to do it. So the Democrats are to blame early
the shutdown, partial shutdown of the federal government. So what
does the president do next? Here is what the president
should do. He should, as his predecessors before him, exercise

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the right to declare a national emergency and then direct
under a specific federal statute the construction by the military
of the wall that he proposes on our southern border.
Now can the president do that? Of course he can
do that. First of all, the Constitution provides the president

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with broad executive power to wage war, not against just
foreign foes, but to wage war against emergencies. In fact,
if you know your history, and I'm sure you do,
that was the basis upon which Franklin Roosevelt in nineteen
thirty three. Is soon as he took over the presidency,

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he assumed jurisdiction over all banks in America. And he
did so because it was an emergency. There was no
specific statute or constitutional provision that says you may do that. Instead,
there are inherent powers within the Constitution that gave him

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that right, that power, that ability. It's long been established
that the president's principal duty, after all, is to protect
the lives and the safety and the security of American citizens.
No one doubts that if President Trump declares that illegal
entry into the United States is jeopardizing the health and

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security of Americans, their very lives, he may act. So
is that illegal immigration jeopardizing lives? Look at the statistics
provided by the Department of Justice. In the last two
years alone, criminal aliens have been responsible for approximately two

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hundred and thirty five thousand violations of law, four thousand homicides,
thirty thousand sex crimes, over one hundred thousand violent assaults.
In just two thousand and eighteen, seventeen thousand individuals with
criminal records were apprehended at the southern border. And it

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goes beyond that. The crisis is also that of drugs.
We are experiencing an acute opioid crisis in America. Three
hundred Americans are killed every single week from heroine, and
ninety percent of that heroine is flooding across our southern border.

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So is there a crisis our lives in jeopardy? Of course,
So beyond the inherent powers of the president to declare
an emergency, the president also has specific constitutional authorities. Look
it up. Article two, Section three. The president quote shall

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take care that the laws be faithfully executed. End of quote.
Since crossing the border without government permission is against the law,
it's a crime, the president is empowered to take action,
such as building a wall, to halt that law breaking.
And if you have any question at all about whether

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a barrier at the southern border, whether it be a
fence or a steel barrier or a concrete wall, works,
just listen to the Secretary of Homeland Security the other day.
She stood in of telephones and microphones and television cameras

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and said, in places where a wall exists on our
border with Mexico, ninety to ninety five percent of illegal
immigration is reduced. So it works ninety to ninety five
percent of the time. But beyond the inherent powers of

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the Constitution, there's something else. In nineteen seventy six, Congress
passed the National Emergency's Act, vestings specific authority in the
president to decide if and when a national emergency shall
be declared, and permitting the president to issue an order
pursuant to what he deems to be an emergency. Congress

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waived its veto power over his decision to determine what
constitutes an emergency, and by the way, that was affirmed
by the West Supreme Court in nineteen eighty three. The
Emergency Act gives the President greater authority to take actions
that he might otherwise be constrained to take. He can,

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for example, redirect funds money on an emergency basis to
meet the crisis. So it's a two step process. First,
the President declares a national emergency, and then he's authorized
under a specific federal statute passed by Congress. I don't

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want to get wonky on you, but here it is
ten USC. Twenty eight o eight. I have it in
front of me. It's really simple, one page long, three paragraphs.
I'm going to read it to you. In the event
of the declaration by the President of a national emergency,
in accordance with a National Emergency Act, the Secretary of Defense,

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without regard to any other provision of law, may undertake
military construction projects, and may authorize the secretaries of the
military departments to undertake military construction projects not otherwise authorized

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by law. In other words, it doesn't have to be
a specific authorization from Congress to build a wall. The
President may direct the Secretary of Defense start building the
wall using military contractors. And the president not only has
the power to issue that order, no one can stop him. Now,

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will somebody file a lawsuit? Of course, you know in America,
anybody sadly can file a lawsuit, regardless of whether it's
legally merited. Senator Kamala Harris, who's surely going to be
announcing very soon she's running for president of United States,
Democrat from California, has said on the record she will

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sue the President to stop him from using his emergency powers.
But remember, since Congress conferred and in fact abdicated its
authority to the president for handling emergencies, her lawsuit and
any other one like it will be very difficult to

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sustain because they have no legal basis to complain. I mean,
if Congress intended to have some say in what constitutes
an emergency, it failed to place any limiting language in
the National Emergencies Act. Congress gave the president unfettered power

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and determination. And by the way, you know, this is
a president who would be doing very much what other
presidents have done since the passage of the National Emergencies Act.
Presidents have utilized the authority. Bill Clinton seventeen times, George W.
Bush twelve times, Barack Obama thirteen times. And in fact,

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there are currently thirty one emergencies still in effect, dating
all the way back to President Jimmy Carter's emergency declaration
punishing I ran back in nineteen eighty and many of
those I have a list here. But almost all of
these declared emergencies deal directly with foreign threats, and the

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same certainly can be said of illegal border crossings from
Mexico into the United States. But you know, you hear
people in the media who are among the dumbest people
I know, who say, well, where's the crisis? Crisis? What crisis?
Reminds me of the Supertramp album? You know that was

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one of my favorite albums in young people these days
go Supertramp? What's Supertramp? One of the great albums was
what Crisis? And that's the media these days. But they
weren't complaining when Barack Obama issued a national emergency declaration

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to block the property of certain persons contributing to the
conflict in Central African Republic. Same thing contributing to the
situation in Burundi and South Sudan. If you ask the
average American do you think Burundi and South Sudan and

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the Central African Republic constitute US national emergencies? The average
person would say, are you kidding me? Burundi and South
Sudan and the Central African Republic are not a national
emergency to the United States, And yet no one complied

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and when Barack Obama declared them national emergencies. But here
we have, as I outlined a serious life or death
crisis at our border, and I gave you the statistics
a moment ago, and you still have members of the
media saying, well, it's not really a crisis. Um, I

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want to play this cut here of commentary of individuals
saying this is not a crisis and other individuals explaining
how they're wrong. This is cut eighteen. Take a listen.
But the big scam of the whole address was that
there's a crisis. There's not a crisis. Ninety being in

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a red car. What is the overdocing on? I think
my neighbor and her sister wrote overdo the victim appeared
to have been executed and left in the street. We
were able to identify a group of emas thirteen gang
members who we believe are responsible in a suspect in
a series of brutal crimes is a gang member and
illegal immigrant who's been deported four times. Tommy Vladim Alvarado

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Ventura is accused of stabbing two women and sexually assaulting
a two year old girl. We saw from Trump today
the typical lying, the nonsensity spinning of crises out of
whole class ms. Thirteen gang members were rounded up this morning,
charged in three murders. Sixteen year old Kla Quavis and
her fifteen year old best friend, Nissa Mickens brutally beaten

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to death. Miguel Albarez Flores and Diego Hernandez Rivera both
based aggravated kidnapping and murder charges for allegedly killing a
teenage girl during a Satanic ritual last month in Texas.
America's overdose crisis is worse than ever before because of
the synthetic opioid fentel. It is deadlier than a heroin overdose,
so that we have almost double this time last year.

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A synthetic opioid fentyl is causing carnage like America has
never seen. Overdoses are now the leading cause of death
for Americans under the age of fifty. Let's start out
with this idea of crisis. The President use that word
several times in the speech. Just because you say it's
a crisis, George, doesn't necessarily make it once. Suffolk County
Police announcing the arrest of seventeen gang members after a

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series of violent incidents, including the massacre of four young men.
If Haro was the epidemic, fentenol's the plague, and the
plague is here process by the way, it feels like
it's a colossal waste of time. So he can deliver
on a chant he began three years ago at some
of his rallies. It's all about nothing. I'm Greg Jared

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is as we speak down of the border near McAllen,
Texas and the Rio Grand and he is with President
Donald Trump, and he'll be interviewing President Trump one on
one sit down interview, and as soon as he finishes it,
he'll be calling into this program to talk to us
about what the President said and what he intends to

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do next. Will he declare a national emergency and direct
the military to begin construction of a wall in areas
where it is needed. And the President has requested funding
from Congress, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer refuse to budge,
And that interview, by the way, will be played live,

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well live to tape in its entirety tonight at nine
o'clock on Hannity on the Fox News channel. So you'll
want to be sure to tune in then to see
all of the interview. But Sean's going to call in
over the next couple of hours and give us an
update on what the President said. And I'd like to
put the question to you, and I would hope that

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you would give me a call and tell me what
you think. The number, by one, by the way, is
eight hundred and nine four one. Sean, that's eight hundred
nine four one seventy three twenty six. Will be getting
to your calls in just a moment. We have quite
a few standing by. But the question is this, should
the President declare a national emergency and order the Secretary

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of Defense, as authorized by law, to begin construction of
a border wall in places where it is needed. The
president has absolute authority to do this. Other presidents have
declared national emergencies for a whole lot less. And when

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you think of what's at stake here, criminal aliens, in
the last couple of years have committed two hundred and
thirty five violations of the law, including four thousand homicides,
thirty thousand sex crimes, over one hundred thousand violent assaults,
and ninety percent of the heroine that luds across our

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southern border, killing three hundred Americans every single week. Does
that not constitute an emergency a crisis? It does, that's
my opinion. What are your thoughts. Let's go to our
phone lines. Drew stands by in Daytona Beach. Drew, what

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do you think? Great? My question is, assuming that the
President does declare a national emergency, he's gonna have to
use military funding to construct the wall. Would it be
possible for Kevin McCarthy to add in that dollar figure,

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whatever it is, into the continuing Resolution and still get
that funding back again for the military basically to kind
of sweep this all together in one deep little well.
He could, but Pelosi would stop him from doing so,
and since she's now the Speaker of the House and
controls the majority in the House, that's probably unlikely. But

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the president doesn't need that. Look, there is a budget
for the military construction projects of one hundred billion dollars,
So you're only asking for five billion to be diverted
from existing military construction projects to wall funding, So that
would seem to be the logical choice. And again, the

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President is authorized not just by the National Emergencies Act,
but by the statute that I recited earlier, which is
a ten USC twenty eight o eight. Specifically, Congress passed
the laws saying you can do this, and plus on
top of that, how could the Democrats possibly complain? Because

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they pass the Secure Fence Act of two thousand and six,
empowering the Homeland Security Department to build a physical barrier
enhancement along the border. And you know Democrats have long
fought for a barrier that separates Mexico from the United States.
I want to play you a clip of what many

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prominent Democrats once said about building a wall in what
they now say an absolute hypocritical flip flop. Here it is,
I voted numerous times when I was a Senator to
spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent

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illegal immigrants from coming in. And you voted for in America,
where we build bridges, not walls. People who enter the
United States without our permission are illegal aliens, and illegal
aliens should not be treated the same as people who
entered the US legally. To so many Americans, we do

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not want the wall to be a symbol of America,
much preferring the Statue of Liberty be that symbol. Those
who enter our country illegally and those who employ them
disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in
an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we cannot
allow people to pour into the US undetected, undocumented, and unchecked.

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If there are disruptions in these countries, that there's conflict,
if there's bad governance, if there's war, if there's poverty
in this new world that we live in, we can't
isolate ourselves. We can't hide behind the wall. All of
us agree that we need to have comprehensive bipartisan immigration
reform that can only begin strong border control. We must

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have that. We must control our borders. But the wall
is an immorality. It's not who we are is So
how do you explain that? I'll tell you how I
explain it. Hypocrisy born of stupidity is endemic on Capitol Hill.
These are people who opposed who are opposing the wall,

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who once supported the wall, and they're only opposing it
now because Donald Trump wants it, and they don't want
to give anything Donald Trump wants because they hate him.
It's as simple as that. They hate him as a person,
they hate his policies, they hate what he stands for.
They're unabashed scorn and visceral hatred of the president is

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reflected in their decision making now opposing the wall that
they have long fought in favor of. They have advocated
for a barrier, and now they're against it only because
Trump is in favor of it, and there's no other
way of looking at it. That is the plane unadulterated truth.

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Let's go to our next caller. Max joins us from Utah. Max. Hello,
I think the Democrats are opposing this wall because their
way for donations from across the border, the drug card
tells will pay handsomely to stop the wall. You know,
you could fund the wall if you just used all
of the seized assets of El Chapo. There's a better way,

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and that's what I call it about. He can build
the wall, he can make the Mexicans pay for it
with already existing funds that he has of his disposal.
Which funds are those? Okay, everybody in the world, nobody
pays taxes to the federal government except for US citizens.
Had people to hold a green card, so it's called

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legal aliens. The illegal aliens. When they pay taxes, they
do so with unverified so security numbers with unverified names.
Now they can't because they can't bear it. All this
fun beam that is paid by these people working here
in the United States goes into an account called the
donation account. Okay, because they can't verify it. And we're talking, well,

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who controls who controls that account? Oh, the Federal Reserve.
And since their incarnation, the Federal Reserve has never been audited.
You can ask Ron Paul about this. He went on
and on about how they knew that the Federal Reserve
if you where our money actually go, you know, I
like the idea. Maybe we need to get Ron Paul
on the telephone. Next. This got our next caller, Richard

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joins us from New Jersey. Richard, how are you hey,
how you doing today? Thank you for having me on.
I think I have a little kind of unique perspective
on things. First of all, I'm a government contractor who's
out of work, so I can speak about that. But
the also thing that is something that happened to me
just this morning. Well, whenever are you, are you out
of work because you were furloughed or out of work

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because for other reasons for furlough Yeah, I'm part of
the government for okay, Friday. Friday was my last day
I was able to work. Do you support the President's position? Nonetheless? Yeah? Absolutely?
Why and um, well, just as an example, this morning,
I went through was taking my daughter to school and
was passed by two police vehicles screaming by, and found

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out just earlier today that a young man had overdosed
and fatally just this morning, a few blocks from my home.
And staystically speaking, probably what twenty five thirty of the drugs. Um,
there's a chance that the drugs that he took actually
came across the Mexican board. Yeah, it depends on the drugs.
I mean, yeah, as we indicated before, the vast majority

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of the heroine in the United States is coming across
our southern border, meth cocaine. I mean, who knows, but
point point well taken Richard in New Jersey. Richard, thanks
very much, appreciate that let's go to Rob in Pennsylvania. Rob,
you're on the air, right, you know, just as desperately
as we need a border wall, as we need dams
and levees and sea walls as infrastructure to keep out

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things that are dangerous coming in and control the flow.
But you're you're citing some US Code and there are
laws that are never ever enforced, and I don't understand why.
And you will be familiar with Title eight thirteen twenty
four of US Code, which makes it a crime to
encourage or help people to get here illegally, and also
makes it a crime, a felony as a matter of fact,

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to harbor them, house them, or transport them. Those laws
just aren't enforced exist federal law. There is no ninth
Circuits going to overturn existing federal law. I don't think
it's never enforced. You can't harbor one, you can't house them,
you can't transport them, and you can't aid them to
get here. You know, you're absolutely right. I am well

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familiar with that specific statute in the criminal codes, and
it makes it a crime to harbor, harbor, or shield
anyone who is here illegally, and the punishment is up
to five years behind bars. And if somebody is killed
as a consequence of you're enabling in harboring and shielding

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an illegal alien who commits that crime, the punishment is
life behind bars. So you know, you think about the
sheriff in San Francisco, the mayor in San Francisco, who
were harboring and shielding the illegal alien who came here
and murdered a young woman on the pier in San Francisco.

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Why weren't they criminally prosecuted back then? I argued vociferously
that they should have been, But at the time it
was the Obama Department of Justice. They took no action.
I encouraged Jeff Sessions to take action. He suggested generally
he might, and the feckless incompetence Sessions never did. We

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to start enforcing the laws on the books. We're gonna pause,
take a quick, great time. Greg Jared in for Sean Hannity.
He has an interview with President Trump. He is going
to be calling in very shortly to tell us what
the President said. You can watch the entire interview tonight
on Hannity on the Fox News Channel. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to the Sean Hannity, Shawn, I'm filling in
for Sean. I'm Greg Jared by the way, the Fox
News Channel, legal analyst, former lawyer, author of the number
one New York Times best selling book, The Russia Hoax,
and we'll be talking about that at the top of
this next hour in a few minutes. But I'm here
because Sean is down at the border. He is with
President Trump as he meets with border security agents getting

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a briefing on illegal immigration and border security. As soon
as the Sean finishes is one on one interview with
the President, he'll be calling in to this program, so
stay tuned for that. He'll give us an update on
what the President said in tonight at nine o'clock Eastern
on the Fox News Channel on Hannity, you can watch

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the entire interview with President Trump. In the meantime, we're
taking your telephone calls. Got a couple of minutes left.
Want to go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, you're a
police officer, as I understand, and and God bless you
and thank you for your service as a law traishman official.
Appreciate it. Thanks. Greg. How are you today? I'm well,

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I just you know, I wanted to lead off by thaying,
we're even in Pennsylvania here, we're affected by a lot
of the illegal aliens, mostly here working on the farm.
But the reason I'm not a police officer anymore is
because I was injured by one who was attempting to
get away from me and you know, erect my police

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cruiser and he was never deported even after he was caught. Unbelievable,
which was very frustrating. I did have a question, just
as a teaching moment. I am newer into politics, but
did did Nancy and Chuck and all of them use
the border funding in the past as a way to

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get elected or yeah, that's the first place. Well, you know,
some of it was built, some of the fence was built.
But yeah, I mean, you know, there is nothing that
happens on Capitol Hill, especially among people like Chuck. I'd
walk a mile for a camera, Schumer and h Nancy.
We've got to pass the bill to find out what's

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in at Pelosi. There's nothing that they do that doesn't
directly extend to their own benefit, and that is their
perpetuation of power on Capitol Hill, which is sad, empathetic
and tragic, but that's the truth of the matter. Bill
from Pennsylvania, Thanks very much. Sean Hannity will be calling

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in to give us an update on his conversation with
a president down at the border. Stay tuned for that.
I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean on the Sean
Hannity Show. Stay with us, and welcome back to the
Sean Entity Show. On Greg. Jared's sitting in for Sean
today is down in McCallan, Texas, near the border the
Rio Grand River, where the President has been getting a

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briefing from border security on illegal immigration and how to
stop the illegal crossings into the United States and all
of the crimes that come with it, not to mention
the American deaths by virtue of the illegal drug traffic
across our border, mostly heroine, which is claiming three hundred

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lives of Americans a week. Those are facts. Those are statistics.
You can find them from the Department of Justice and
other law enforcement agencies. But to those who say crisis,
what crisis. There isn't an emergency. This doesn't have anything

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to do with national security in the safety and security
of Americans. Tell that to the family of Officer Ronald Singh.
Gunned down by an illegal immigrant just after Christmas Day.
His five month old son will never know his father.

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And that, ladies and gentlemen, his life and death. Or
tell that to the family of Pierce Corkran. A few
days later, December twenty nine, he was killed by a
suspected illegal immigrant driving without a license, without insurance, on
the wrong side of the road. Pierce was only twenty
two years old. Tell that to his family. There is

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a crisis. And a few minutes ago, the President was
standing in front of television cameras briefly and said, this
is common sense. As the Secretary of Homeland Security said
the other day, the wall works ninety to ninety five
percent of the time in places where we have it.

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It prevents illegals from coming across our border with drugs
and with crime. And so, you know, all of the
people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who have long
advocated for a barrier on our southern border now don't
want it because Trump wants it. And that is nothing

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but petty partisan politics. And haven't we had enough of
that in the United States? And the President repeated just
minutes ago that if Pelosi and Schumer and other Democrats
will not come to the table and offer some kind

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of a compromise, and he has offered several options over
the last twenty days of the federal shutdown. Then the
President said he would in a national emergency under the
National Emergencies Act authorized by Congress, and then employ another

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specific statute that I've been talking about ten USC twenty
eight h eight that says the military can use their
existing funds to start construction of a different project not
authorized by Congress. That's the law. It's plain and simple.

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Let you get the opinion of a terrific lawyer in America,
civil liberties attorney David Schoen, who joins us now to
discuss this important aspect of American life right now, a
partial government shutdown, furloughed workers because Democrats refuse to come
to the table to offer some sort of a compromise. So, David,

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you know I've laid out in the last hour the
very specifics of the National Emergencies Act, and I also
explain ten USC. Twenty eight OA emergency powers that specifically
include constructing any unauthorized construction project by the military at

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the direction of the Secretary of Defense, who is directed
by the President of United States, So the president, do
you agree David does have a legal basis for taking
unilateral action? Yes, I do, and I think frankly, they've
done their homework to make the case to the American

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public for it for the exercise of those powers, putting
aside the complete chaos created by this shutdown. They have
the statistics now that they've marshalled about the numbers trying
to come across the border and the threat that that
poses to national security. I also think, you know, there
is another issue. It seems to be at least if

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the president is dealing in this case with a foreign
power power that is Mexico, the president certainly has the
authority unilaterally to act in matters of foreign affairs. I
think this also is another justification for him to act
if that's what it takes. But it shouldn't come to that. Again.
Congress has to relearn how to work by consensus. It

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hasn't happened this entire administration, and so it only becomes
about ego, about who's going to own a problem rather
than fixing a problem, and we see it with issue
after issue after issue. You know, I'm glad you brought
that up because I have in front of me the
list of the thirty one existing national emergencies, beginning with

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Jimmy Carter, then on to Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush,
Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama. And I don't
see any, frankly, that don't deal with foreign threat. But
you know what's interesting is a lot of these foreign

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threats in which national emergencies are declared, most Americans wouldn't
consider to be foreign threats or national emergencies. Somalia, Libya, Yemen, Ukraine,
South Sudan, Burundi, the Central African republic A, Cuba. Um,
you know, the most Americans are, what a minute, where's

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the national emergency there? Uh, Nicaragua, El Salvador, I mean Burundi.
Really it's a national emergency. I mean I said that
to the other day to my wife, and she said, really,
you gotta be kidding me. And yet no, that was
a Barack Obama national emergency blocking property of certain persons

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contributing to the situation in Burundi November twenty third, twenty
and fifteen. So you know, it's completely erroneous and specious
for people to say, oh, you know, Max, because not
a national emergency. Yeah, it is. Can you imagine if

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Congress would martial forces with the President to come up
with the optimal security fence wall whatever the answer is.
The President is not locked into concrete versus Steele versus
something else. They paid them that way in the media.
If they could just come to consensus with the best
experts about what kind of barrier would be the best,
that would serve the American people the best, That's how

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government should function. The folks on the other side of
the president all say not all, mostly say they believe
there is a national security threat involved here and that
border security has to be enhanced. So we're really shutting
down the government because they don't like the president's idea
on how it's best to be enhanced. It's just an

(40:51):
absolute absurdity. And five billion dollars, you know, the money
that they waste. Take away twenty million from the Mueller
investigation for starters. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Speaking
of which, I want to get your reaction to something else.
And before I do that, let me just tell our
listeners that Sean's going to be calling in. He is
doing an interview with President Trump down of the border.

(41:13):
That interview will air in its entirety tonight on Hannity
on the Fox News Channel. Tune in then, but stay
tuned here because Sean will be calling in and he
he'll tell us what the President had to say, give
us a preview of the entire interview tonight on the
Fox News Channel. But the other news that's broken over

(41:34):
the course of the last hour is news that Michael Cohen,
presidents one time now disgraced personal attorney, will apparently be
testifying before the House Oversight and Reform Committee on February seventh. Now,
of course Democrats control that committee. Now, Elijah Cummings is
the chairman of the committee, and in his statement, Cohen

(41:56):
said he accepted the invitation from Cummings quote furtherance of
my commitment to cooperate and provide the American people with answers.
I look forward to the privilege of being afforded a platform.
Blah blah blah blah Michael Cohen, who is an admitted
prodigious liar and a considerable confessed criminal. So you know,

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I don't believe anything Michael Cohen ever says. You know,
once a liar, always a liar. And you know who's
to say he won't be lying in front of the committee.
What do you think. I have a couple of thoughts
about it. One is I think that Michael Cohen is
going to speak publicly, ought to get his playbook straight

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on what his motivation is, because we heard originally, you know,
he'd take a bullet for the president. Then he's had
enough of this. His family comes first. Everything he does
from now on is for himself and his family. Now
all of a sudden, is for the American people and
the good of the American people. So first off, I
think he has to get his motivation straight. We're gonna
speak about it publicly. But secondly, can you imagine how

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the Democrats would scream bloody murder if when the Republicans
had the House, a House committee had subpoenaed to testify
an ongoing witness in the Mueller investigation. They would have
said obstruction, they would have said complete interference with the
Muller investigation. They would have screamed bloody murder. And now

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Cohen is still trying to earn himself points by cooperating
with Muller. In fact, they said they had to check
with Mueller to make sure nothing he said would interfere
directly for the investigation. All these folks are working together.
That's the collusion to steal a word, and it's just
the hypocrisy once again raises its horrible heads. You know,

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Cohen's the kind of guy if you put a statement
in front of him that said I am Carrie Grant
aka Archibald Leak signed Michael Cohen, he would sign that
happily if if there, if there was some benefit to him, right.
I mean, this is the kind of narcissistic, self absorbed

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in a sociopathic liar that Michael Cohen's record demonstrates. And
so I mean, I'm you know, what do you really
get out of listening to this guy in front of
the Oversight Committee? I just don't know. Just grandstanding, just
show voting, same thing that goes on with all of
these so called investigations, whether it's buy the Muller team

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or buy the Democrats in the house. Unfortunately it's a
public show. You know. Interesting. I don't mean to switch
subjects too much on you, but I note something today
just completely it fanomizes this. There was you know, Attorney
General nominee bar was on the hill meeting with Democratic

(44:55):
senators today. So Feinstein, for example, said that she's interested
in knowing what was the genesis of the memo that
Attorney General to be Barr wrote about the Muller investigation.
So then someone said, well, did you ask him when
you met with him? She said, no, I didn't ask
him that when I met with him. I want to
ask him that in public. Do you want the information

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or do you just want a grandstand? It's just unbelievable.
Oh my god. You know, Diane Feinstein, I you know,
I don't know how she thinks for that, Brandon Hurst,
I really don't, you know. And it's one of the
problems by having a non lawyer on the Judiciary Committee. Um,
but you know there she is for a lawyers. Lawyers
do a bad enough job. You're right. I don't know

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if you can distinguish among them. They really do. They're
awful there. It's unbelievable. All right, um, listen, can I
hold you over because I want to talk to you
about the imminent departure of Rod Rosenstein. I wrote a
column about it on Foxnews dot com. Um, and I'd
love to get your reaction to Rod Rosen's n's departure

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and what will happen next with soon to be Attorney
General William Barr. David Shones with us. Our telephone number,
by the way, is one eight hundred nine four one Sean.
That's one eight hundred nine four one seven three two six.
We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Shawn,

(46:21):
Greg Jarrett. Sean will be calling in very shortly with
his interview of President Donald Trump down of the border
in McAllen, Texas, Elier in its entirety tonight on Hannity
on the Fox News Channel. In the meantime, let's talk
for a moment about Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General
who will thankfully leave the Department of Injustice and so

(46:46):
we may get a reprieve and hope of reform at
the DOJ. David Shones with US Civil Liberties Attorney David,
what do you think? I think to your article today
is phenomenal and says it all. You eat on every problem,
almost every problem. I don't know if everybody knows all
the problems they have arisen with Rod Rosenstein in this
positions called Greg Jared why Rosenstein's departure will help restore

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the rule of law at the Justice Departments today on
Fox dot Com. Everybody's got to read that. That says
at all. Listen, the guy who's been a disaster, he
shouldn't have been in a position to the first place.
It's a very mediocre sort of person who I think
was it was just a mistake to appoint him. But
since then, as you point out in your article, I mean,
the guy has never seen a conflictive interest that he

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didn't love. It would seem he you know, as you
point out, he's a fact witness for the Muller investigation.
He wrote the memo justifying Komey's departure, but then he
fell all over himself to indulge Komey by appointing Mueller.
He's got no business in this position. He's leaving now,
you know, I've read a piece the other day. Nobody

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seems to know whether he's got control of the Mueller
investigation or Whittaker does. Whittaker has the authority to have
control over it. We should have seen some affirmatives depths
by him to rein in the misconduct by those investigators.
I think we will with Bill Barring there. I got
about forty seconds left. But what's your opinion of Bill Barr.
I think he is the man for the job right now.

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You know, this is who the President picked after careful consideration.
It's the role now of the legislators to consent to
that after ask him the questions they want to ask.
I saw the Senator Klubischer said that she thinks it's
being rushed. This is being rushed. You have a Department
of Justice and complete chaos. You need a man with
a person with experience to take the helm now and

(48:33):
write the ship. The Great David Sean, civil liberties attorney,
and he's going to stay with us for the next
segment to talk a bit more about Rod Rosenstein. And
we're waiting for Sean to call in his interview one
on one with President Trump down at the southern border.
We'll be right back and it is back on the
radio right now, and in fact, Sean will be on

(48:55):
the radio in just a few moments, we hope, as
soon as he finished is his interview with President Donald
Trump down at the border in McAllen, Texas, where the
President is being debriefed by security officials there, Sean will
join us and tell us what the President told him
in a one on one interview that you can watch
in its entirety tonight on Hannity on the Foxnews Channel

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nine o'clock Eastern Time. In the meantime, we've been talking
about the imminent departure of Rod Rosenstein, and I wrote
a column. You can look at it on foxnews dot
com the opinion section. It's entitled why Rosenstein's departure will
help restore the rule of law at the Justice Department.

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And let me just read one part of it here,
which really synthesizes the role Rosenstein has played over the
last two years. He has been the de facto Attorney General.
Rosenstein engineered and presided over signal abuses at the Department
of Justice, transforming the rule of law into the rule

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of lawlessness. He championed abusive double standards of enforcement and
ignored wrongdoing in his own department. In the FBI, justice
took a back seat to petty partisanship. More egregiously, Rosenstein
was an active participant in one of the dirtiest tricks

(50:22):
perpetrated in modern politics, the targeting of the president without
legal cause or evidence. David Chone rejoins this now civil
liberties attorney, and I appreciate you're reading my column and
mentioning it, David. You know, Rosenstein has so much answer

(50:42):
for him. One of the things that really sort of
chafes at me is that he has consistently resisted requests
by Congress to question him about his actions. Yeah, I mean,
I'm not sure really why he's been given the choice
so many times and why the Republicans missed some great

(51:06):
opportunities with it. He had some very aggressive committee chairs,
Devennunions did a great job in many ways. A lot
of these guys good lad but I think they left
the job unfinished. Unfortunately, bred Rosenstein got away with a
lot of it. I'm waiting to see now, though, when
Elijah Cummings will call him before his committee and we'll
hear from Rosenstein how he obviously was forced out more obstruction,

(51:27):
something like that. I hope that's not going to be
what happens. I hope he'll just you know, ride off
into the sunset. Because this has been a disastrous reign
at the Justice Department. It started when you know, mister
Sessions felt the ad to recuse himself, and from that
point forward, the emblem of the Justice Department has been
the Mueller investigation and it's gotten off track so badly everybody,

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most people in this country want to see us get
back on track with policy. Stop the Mueller investigation, move
forward with moving the country forward toward greatness economy, get
back on track with the president had it headed. You know,
Rosenstein is the one who brought us this national nightmare

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of Robert Muller and his team of partisans in their
investigation into Trump Russian collusion without any evidence, without probable cause,
and violation of the regulations. It was you know, it
was Rosenstein who who volunteered to write the memo to
Trump citing all of the reasons that Comey should be
fired for usurping the power of the Attorney General, violating

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the FBI and dj rules. So the President adopts Rosenstein's
recommendation and he sacks Comy, and Rosenstein's memo becomes public.
And then suddenly Rosenstein is upset and angry the Democrats
are blaming him, so he doesn't about face, seeks retribution.

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He secret proposes to secretly record the President in an
attempt to gain damaging information about him. He solicits, allegedly
others to wear wires, recruiting cabinet members to depose the
president under the twenty fifth Amendment. And you know there
are three top FBI officials, Andrew McCay, Lisa Page, James Baker,

(53:24):
who all have confirmed in their testimony to Congress that
these were serious and deliberate efforts by Rod Rosenstein to
remove President Trump. I mean, he's just outrageous, isn't it.
I think it's unprecedented. But I think the best way

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maybe to get snapshot of again the hypocrisy would be
just take a second closure eye and imagine that President
Obama were presidents still, and you just heard a story
about senior officials in the Justice Department and FBI trying
to say him up, record private conversations with him, and
paint him as if you were a lunatic. Can you

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imagine the public outcry. But here, because there's a sense
in the media of get Donald Trump, no matter what,
the media becomes cheerleaders for this kind of outrageous misconduct
rather than saying, these people have no business at the FBI,
no business in the Justice Department. And you're right so
much of that. Everything your article is right by the

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way about Rosenstein today and every word of it should
be read by everybody. But one of the factors is
you've just talked about a bit. Rosenstein was responsible for
one session stepped aside forgetting us this horror show of
the special counsel. He was triggered under six hundred point
one of the regulations. He had options and have you

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read one paragraph further to six hundred point two, he
could have simply had an informal investigation without appointing a
special counsel and seeing that there's no basis for this,
all of this business we hear about. Oh but mother
has gotten so many convictions, Matt convictions for what we
were told this investigation was. For most of them are
subsidiary crimes because Muller felt people lied to him, turn

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the screws to them and they pled guilty to it.
It's like Alice in Wonderland, all of this business and
Rob Rosenstein's in the heart of it. So the point
is that you were making is Rosenstein has a conflict
if you're going to appoint the special Council under six
hundred point one, it's because in this case he found
there to be a conflict of interest for the Justice Department. Well,
not only do you have a great part of Muller's

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team made up of Justice Department people. You have Rob
Rosenstein's overseeing that investigation still at the Justice Department, but
he's a fellow who is a fact witness. He signed
a FISA warrant in this case. It's just it's outrageous.
And again, every other watchdog and any other administration would
be absolutely enraged by this, and instead anything that they

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think helps bring down the president is a good thing
and consistent with the rule of law. Somehow, you know,
in my book The Russia Hoax, I cite a myriad
of law professors and legal experts who were all in
unison aghast that Rod Rosenstein never recused himself, And I

(56:15):
point out, at my calm, think of it this way,
Rosenstein was interviewed as a as you point out, a
fact witness in the Special Council probably was interviewed by
the Special Counsel. So what if Rosenstein was lyne Well,
the only Rosenstein would be authorized to decide whether to

(56:37):
prosecute himself for line, which is exactly why the Code
of Professional Responsibility, not to mention the DJ regulations say
you can't be a prosecutor and a witness all rolled
into one and yet you're exactly right. You're exactly right.
And it's really highlighted by the way in this setting

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because under the regulations, Rosenstein has the specific authority to
determine the scope of any investigation, and he can call
off any avenue that the Special Council intends to go in.
That's expressly written into the regulation and six hundred point
nine I don't need to go through it the specific regulations,

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but that's his authority. And so you're right, he's you know, actor, judge, executioner,
and deciser over who they're going to investigate, when they're
going to investigate it, and when Mueller's tactics are appropriate
or not appropriate. I mean, you know, if this was
on an ethics exam for the bar, you know, I mean,

(57:41):
any idiot could have answered it correctly. And yet yet
Rosenstein has violated all of this with impunity. It's it's
really quite amazing. And the other thing is, you know,
the illegitimate nature of the appointment of the Special Council.
This case was a counterintelligence pro The Special Council of
Regulations allows for a special counsel in a criminal investigation,

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not a counterintelligence probe. And not only that you must
state evidence of a suspected crime. There is none that
was named or identified in the authorization order, which was
clearly defective, and yet it has gone on for a
year and a half. Last word on this, David, Yeah,

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I'll tell you the crime. The crime is stealing my
tax dollars for the public investigation. I mean, we still
don't know what their budget has been. We'll find out
one day. It literally is in the double digits of
millions of dollars. And we're how far into it now.
I mean, it's just it's gonna be two years coming up.
It's just it's got to end. The country wants to

(58:47):
get back on track with policy. Yeah, that's the real
crime right there, And yet it goes on and on
and on. David Sean, several liberties attorney. Always great talking.
You're such a wealth of knowledge and we always appreciate
your sharing it with us. David Chone, thanks very much,
Thank you very much. All Right, when we come back,

(59:08):
I'd love to hear from you about either this subject
or the President's visit down at the southern border. Sean
Hannity is with him one on one exclusive interview. When
Sean finishes, he will be calling in with an update.
So talk to us about the government shutdown, border security,
the building of a wall, or talk to us about

(59:30):
the Muller investigation and Rosenstein. Our number is eight hundred
nine four one, Sean, that's one eight hundred nine four
one seven three two six. I'm Greg jareded sitting in
today for Sean Hannity. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Shawn,
Greg Jared. I have the pleasure of sitting in for

(59:50):
Sean today because he's down to the border with President
Trump and just concluded an interview exclusively. You can see
tonight in its entirety on Hannah. But right now, Sean
joins us on the phone. Sean, good afternoon. Hey Greg, First,
thanks for jumping in. I do like this role reversals, says,
I'm always interviewing you, so it's about time you get

(01:00:12):
to throw me. Uh. Well, we're in McCallen, Texas. You know,
I've just some background. I've been down to the border
at least I think thirteen fourteen times now, and you
know when I talk to these agents that are there,
especially this is the where the Rio Grand Section is
in McAllen, Texas, and I could walk across where we

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were into Mexico and I've needed in less than two minutes,
minute and a half, depending how fast I was walking.
And after talking to all of the border patrol guys,
the ice guys, all the law enforcement guys, they are
explaining in detail, you know, all of the drugs that
are being confiscated. You know the list of countries where

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people are coming from Pakistan, Indonesia and La dash then
all over the world, and they're crossing at the Rio
Grand And we talked a lot about the human toll
of all of this, and the president's plans is and
those things. Now if they continue to spin met by
obstructionist Democrats that have changed their position from two thousand

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and six to thirteen, that he would go ahead and
declare a national emergency. And as you have written quite
eloquently and Mark Levin and all the smart legal scholars,
that is going to probably be the meaning point he
does this. It's sad that we're politicizing something that so

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important when ninety percent of America's heroin is coming from
that southern border where literally just about five minutes ago,
and we know now fet and all is coming in
in greater and greater numbers. And we know Americans are
dying it around three hundred per week because of the
coming into the country. And you know, Hollisley, Nancy Pelosi,

(01:02:04):
Chuck Schumer, everybody in the media with a little talking
point that there's a manufactured crisis. Well tell that to
police officers, things parents, or tell that who you know,
this guy Pierce Porker in the twenty two year old
and Knockville that was killed by an illegal immigrant, or
tell that to any of the families that lose a

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lot one because of heroin the heroine of abusing epidemic
in the country. The President was adamant that he's gonna
stay strong and he's gonna find any way he can
to get the job done, and there's no backtracking on
his side. I also had a chance to interview Senator
Ted Crews and Senator Cornin Uh. They are united, they

(01:02:47):
said in the Senate last night. I interviewed Kevin McCarthy.
They seem united in the House. I don't see a split.
I see full support for the president. President is basically
saying this is a life and depth issue for the
American people, and he takes his job seriously protect and
defend the homeland. Well, I'll quote you from a few

(01:03:08):
days ago, and you've said it more times than once.
Four thousand homicides, thirty thousand sex crimes, over one hundred
thousand violent assaults, all from illegals crossing our border to
the south. And that's just in the past two years alone.
So it is utterly absurd when you hear members of
the media as well as Democrats who say crisis, what crisis?

(01:03:31):
How could they are? But the last time I was
down here, it was in the exact same spot. I
set through a security briefing with Victoria, Texas, and six
hundred and forty two thousand crimes were committed against Texans
alone in a seven year period. And yes, that includes

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some murders, homicides, grape, violent crimes, not all of them,
but some. And I'll be the first I would just
ninety percent of the people that want across that border
right see the city and freedom that we had, and
they wanted the life of themselves and their families. But
it's the two percent criminal elements, the drug deals, there's

(01:04:13):
the human traffickers. Those are the people that we have
open borders are hurting the country. Sean Hannity calling on
the Sports Illustrative Football Phone. We'll be right back. Welcome
back to the Sean Hannity shown. Greg Jared's sitting in
for Sean, who called in just a few minutes ago
close to the Mexican border where he interviewed President Trump.

(01:04:35):
You can watch that interview of the president exclusive interview
tonight at nine o'clock on Hannity on the Fox News
Channel nine o'clock Eastern Time. Sean sit down interview with
President Donald Trump. The President is down there to see
firsthand the situation and to talk with a border security

(01:04:57):
agents to determine the risks that Americans are facing without
a wall. And of course the President has a long
promise to build a wall. That wall's work. The Department
of Homeland Security Secretary Christian Nielsen two days ago stood

(01:05:18):
in front of television cameras and said, where the wall exists,
it drops illegal immigration by ninety to ninety five percent.
And so I'm looking forward to watching Sean's interview with
the President to hear whether or not the President decides
to act unilaterally. Given the fact that Nancy Pelosi, the

(01:05:41):
Speaker of the House and the minority leader in the
Senate Chuck Schumer are refusing to fund the wall, and
of course a partial government shutdown has ensued as a consequence.
Joining us now to talk about this is Jessica Vaughan,
who is Director of Policy Studies for the Center for
Immigration Studies. Also whether It's Jeffrey Lord, former associate political

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director and the Reggae Administration, a columnist, author of the
book What America Needs The Case for Trump. So Jessica,
let me start with you, because because you know the facts,
the stats, talk to us about the problem of illegal
immigration and specifically whether there is a crisis and whether

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walls work. Sure. Glad to be with you. Illegal immigration
has benifesting problem for decades now, and it but it
is a crisis now for a couple of reasons. Illegal
immigration is a problem because, first of all, it displaces

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Americans from job opportunities. It depresses the wages of Americans
who are in the same industries as people coming here legally.
It represents a national security threat because if people are
coming in illegally, we don't know who they are or
why they're here. And it also is a public safety

(01:07:11):
problem because for the same reason, many of the people
who are coming here. Are not coming here just to work,
but they're coming here to join gangs or traffic drugs
or be involved in other criminal activity. And of course
this is a fiscal issue as well, because when people

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settle here illegally and are working in lower paid jobs,
they are qualifying for welfare programs, and their kids are
going to school here, and so they represent and then
they're not paying taxes I should add, or at least
not enough to cover their services. And so this represents
a tax burden for Americans to support illegal immigrants who

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are not self sufficient. And search shows that each illegal
alien is a net fiscal loss of over eighty two
thousand dollars over their lifetime. So this is a problem.
It's a crisis now because of policy problems that we
have loopholes and court imposed policies that are enticing people

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to come to the border with a child that because
they know that they will be released into the country
simply by claiming a fear of return. So the people
are turning over their life savings and the promise of
future earnings to smugglers and traveling all through Mexico because

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they know that they can get away with it, that
they will get into the country released and not have
any consequences. This is dangerous. This is enriching criminal organizations
and causing problems in the communities that have to absorb them.
So it is a legitimate crisis. All right. So you've
named some important things that we should consider. Displacing Americans

(01:09:02):
from jobs, depressing wages, national security threat, safety problem. These
are the crimes, a tax burden, and of course, as
the President pointed out in his speech, coming with all
that is the humanitarian crisis that exists. So, Jeffrey Lord,
when you hear members of the media over the last
forty eight hours since the President delivered his Oval Office address,

(01:09:24):
a crisis. What crisis? How do you react to that? Well,
the first way I react is the hypocrisy of it all,
whether it's the media. I mean, you can't get into
these media institutions. You've been in them, and you work
in one, and I was at CNN, and you know

(01:09:45):
they have effectively walls to keep people from going into
the upper floors. They have security guards there, they have gates, etc.
When I began my career in Washington working in the
House and Senate, you could walk and drive anywhere on
Capitol Hill now. And I was there the other day
and drove by. You couldn't get close because they've erupted

(01:10:07):
these low concrete walls all around the US Capitol building.
They've blocked off all the streets with walls and these
iron ramps that pop up from from belowground. Well, why
are they doing that. They're doing it because they work,
and they keep the Capitol and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck
Schumer and all of their colleagues safe. So the notion

(01:10:28):
that this is and the media of course is not
going to cover that, and you know, the media pushes
an agenda, Greg, And I'll give you one quick contrast.
We all remember the Time magazine cover from last year
that had President Trump. It was photoshop, had President Trump
towering over this two year old Honduran girl who was sobbing,

(01:10:48):
whose picture was taken at the border, and they tried
to make you believe that she had been separated from
her mother, which was not true. The mother just put
her down right at her side so she could be
searched appropriately by border patrolation. Sure, where is the Time
magazine cover right now about Ronald Thing, the California police

(01:11:09):
officer who was shot to death, it doesn't exist because
there are too many to fit on a cover, too
many victims. Yes, that's right, and they're not going to
do it because they are pushing an agenda. Yeah, you know.
I want to set up our next discussion by playing
a montage of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi claiming that

(01:11:29):
experts don't want a wall, We don't need a wall.
Take a listen to this. The experts say you can
do border security without a wall, which is wasteful and
doesn't solve the problem. Your question is not about do
we need to protect our borders? Of course we do.
Is it effective to build a wall even if it
costs ten cents? Is it an answer? My name is

(01:11:50):
Brandon Jet. I'm the president of the National Bordertrol Council.
I've been a bord troll agent for twenty one years.
I can personally tell you from the work that I
have done on the South US border that physical barriers,
that walls, actually work. The experts say you can do
border security without a wall. Is it effective to build
the wall even if it costs ten cents? Is it

(01:12:11):
an answer? My name is de Gueto. I am a
vice president with the National Border putul Council. It comes
down to border security. We fully support the President and
all his efforts to secure our nations borders. Experts say,
you can do border security without a wall. Is it
effective to build the wall even if it costs ten
centse is it an answer? Once we deport these people,

(01:12:32):
these people will not stay in their country. These criminal
aliens that have been released from jail, that have been
deported will come right back into the United States. However,
we had a physical barrier, if we had a wall,
we will be able to stop that. We asked a
congressman to fund border security and fund the border wall.
The experts say, you can do border security without a wall.
Is it effective to build the wall even if it

(01:12:54):
costs ten cents? All right? You know, you know Nancy
and Chuck think they're experts on everything, but when you
actually hear from the experts who were there, who have experienced,
they say Nancy and Chuck are full of it. What
say you, Jessica, I've been to places where we have

(01:13:14):
effective barriers and they most definitely work. Anyone who has
been to look at the barrier systems that we have.
Now that all of that, both Chuck Schumer and Nancy
Pelosi voted for at one time, knows that they work.
Of course they do. And they work from Mexico too,
because they you know, you don't get thousands of people

(01:13:38):
literally amassing by the border where there's no barrier to
try to cross undercover of darkness. It slows them down,
It drives them to places that are more difficult to cross,
and it deters people. The illegal crossings in California and
parts of Arizona and around El Paso and a few
other places have been decreased dramatically by putting up the fencing,

(01:14:03):
and it makes the neighborhoods on both sides of the
barriers much safer because the criminal cartels that control these
areas moved to other places to get people and drugs
and other contraband across the border, you know, Jeffrey the
ever oblivious and dense. CNN's Jim Acosta was mocked across
social media today for posting a video that he meant

(01:14:27):
to downplay President Trump's claims of a border crisis, but
in truth, it actually ended up supporting the President's argument
that border barriers improve security. So here's a costa. He's
walking along this steel barrier. And I'll quote him here,
but you can see the video online. It's hilarious. Here
are some of the steel slats that the President has

(01:14:49):
been talking about. Acosta said, but as we're walking along here,
we're not seeing any kind of imminent danger end of quote. No, Jim,
you're not seeing a danger because the wall is there.
You know, this kind of idiocy seems endemic among the media. Great,

(01:15:12):
I have to tell you, I know, Jim Acosta, and
when I was so astounded when I saw that that
I tweeted him and just said, simply, maybe that's because
walls work, Jesus. And he's there with his you know,
his ray band shades like he's mister cool. You know,
he's hoping to get on a late night talk show

(01:15:35):
once again. I just you know, it's it's a mindset.
And the President mentioned the other night, uh, two words
common sense and you know, at thirty thousand feet to
pull back of it. This is the problem of the
American left, in American liberalism. There is just no common
sense there about a whole range of things. But this

(01:15:56):
is the most obvious one at the moment. I mean
of horsewalls work. Of course they do this is why
they surround Jim Acosta with him when he goes into work,
so that he's safe and secure from people trying to
get in there because of CNN. I mean, it is
just mind boggling here that they can't seem to figure
this out. It's it's you know, you don't know whether

(01:16:17):
literally the laugh or crying. Yeah, well, you know he
needs to do is go to the many places along
the border that have nothing, yes, like around Laredo and
in South Texas where the President is visiting. And then
if Jim Acosta stood there long enough, there would be
legal alien adults with kids accosting him thinking, and then

(01:16:40):
he'd figured out what's going on. Acosta gets accosted. There's
your natural headline experience. Yeah, I mean, you know, but
he wouldn't go there because well, he's not smart enough
to go there. But second of all, he'd probably end
up being a victim of a crime. And you know
Jim doesn't want that, all right, he knows it's danger Yeah,
of course, you know, it's it's obvious to anybody with

(01:17:03):
an ounce of common sense and half a brain, which
excludes necessarily Jim Acosta. All right, if you guys could
stick around for just a moment. I want to talk
to you just a bit more. Going to squeeze in
a quick break. I'm Greg jared In for Sean Hannity.
His exclusive interview tonight with President Trump down at the
Border will air on Fox News Channel at nine pm

(01:17:25):
Eastern on Hannity. Back in a Flash, Welcome back to
the Sean Hannity Show on Greg jared In for Sean
Today because he is down at the border, just finished
interviewing President Trump. That full interview will air tonight on
Hannity at nine pm Eastern time on the Fox News Channel.

(01:17:47):
Back with us are Jessica Vaughan, director of Policy Studies
for the Center for Immigration Studies, Jeffrey Lord, who is
a former political director in the Reagan administration, a columnist author. So, Jeffrey,
it appears to me to be imminent that the President,
in light of the refusal of Democrats to negotiate, will

(01:18:12):
act unilaterally by invoking the National Securities Act and then
directing the military to engage in construction of a barrier
where it's needed. Should he yes? Absolutely? Should you know?
And you mentioned my time in the Reagan White House.

(01:18:35):
President Reagan was faced with a strike from the air
traffic controllers in August of nineteen eighty one, and striking
federal employees. That is illegal, And the Washington conventional wisdom
of the day said, well, you can't fire them because
there are sixteen thousand of them and will be in trouble, etc.
And Reagan said, either they show up for work or

(01:18:56):
I'm firing. They didn't show up for work, he fired them.
The union finally went bankrupt to the president of the
union found up selling real estate in Florida, all because
Ronald Reagan stuck to his guns. And I think President
Trump is made of exactly the same stern stuff, and
he's going to stick to his guns and he should.
And in fact, you wrote about it quite eloquently today

(01:19:17):
in a column entitled President Donald Gandhi Reagan And so
that'll get your attention. You can find it at a
spectator dot org. Final words from Jessica Vaughan. What about
that using the National Emergencies Act. I've read it. The
President is entitled legally to use it in a further
statute to ten USC. Twenty eight oh eight, in which

(01:19:40):
he can use emergency powers to specifically authorize construction. Yes,
I think that he has the authority to do that,
and there are some authorities in immigration law as well
that would enable him, for example, to Deppe ties other

(01:20:00):
federal law enforcement agents and stayed in local law enforcement
agencies to assist at the border. And I would prefer
that this gets done through Congress, all right, because I've
gotta leave it there. Thank you both. We'll be right back.
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. Sean's interview tonight
with President Trump will air live to tape. He did

(01:20:25):
it live about an hour ago and it was tape recorded,
and so you'll see it in its entirety tonight at
nine eastern on Hannity on the Fox News Channel. That's
why I'm here, Greg Jared sittin in for Shaun because
Sean's down at the border with the President getting a
security briefing down there from border patrol agents and others.

(01:20:47):
Have some breaking news in the last few minutes. Lindsey Graham,
United States Senator from South Carolina, prominent member of the
Republican Party. The Republican majority in the Senate, has issued
a statement quote, it is time for President Trump to
use emergency powers to fund the construction of a border

(01:21:08):
wall slash barrier end of quote, and Senator Graham cited
to Speaker Nancy Pelosi's refusal to negotiate on funding for
a barrier wall, saying the path to negotiation has now
been closed by Pelosi, and so Lindsey Graham calling for

(01:21:30):
the President to use what I explain in great detail,
citing the law a couple of hours ago, the president's
emergency powers to order the Secretary of Defense to divert
construction projects of the military to construct barriers where they

(01:21:50):
are needed on our southern border. The president has unfettered
authority to do it. He should do it. I have
been advocating for it, and Lindsey Graham has now come
out in favor of that, which quite frankly, probably means
a lot to the president. I think it's inexorable the
President will use his emergency powers. All right, Let's go

(01:22:15):
to our next caller, Greg from South Dakota, and Greg,
I want to thank you. You're a farmer there as
I understand it, and you've been holding for a long time.
I appreciate your patience. What are your thoughts. I've been
here two hours. I'm going to take my time and
get them all in. Number one is you were my
pick for Attorney general from day one, mister Jarrett, thank you.

(01:22:36):
Number two is build the wall, President Trump, because you
can use the military. They will do it faster, better, cheaper.
You're already paying them wages. You don't have that stuck on.
You'll get more wall for your money. Good point number
three And number three is homeline security. Back in December,
when that Illinois Congressman Gooder, as I believe, was shastasizing

(01:22:59):
Secretary Neil Right, the perfect comeback for him would have been.
With all due respects here, I just thank god that
Mary and Joseph were not Democrats. They'd just went to
the closest planned parenthood and aborted an inconvenience pregnancy, and
our savior never would have been born. Yeah, all right,
I'm not sure I agree with that last point, but Greg,

(01:23:21):
thank you for your thoughts. Greg from South Dakota. All right,
let's go to our next caller. And it requires a
bit of a set up here because we're transitioning now
to the Robert Muller investigation, the Muller hoax, as I
would call it. It began as the Russia hoax, and
now has evolved into the Muller Hoax, with the media

(01:23:43):
hoax and the impeachment hoax right behind it. I wrote
a book called The Russia Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to
clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. I'm proud to
say it was a number one New York Times bestseller
when it was published in July. Since then, I've updated
the book for a paperback version, which will be published

(01:24:07):
in four weeks on February twelfth. You can go to
Amazon dot com. It's already up there, the paperback version
with an updated preface and epilogue, which provides you with
additional new information that's taken place since the book went
to print in June of this last year. So same title,
The Russia Hoax, but it's an updated version of the hardback.

(01:24:31):
You can buy it on Amazon dot com right now.
You can preorder it. It'll be available in bookstores nationwide
on February twelfth. I heartily recommend the book, if I
do say so myself, because I think it lays out
better than anyone else the facts, the law, and the evidence.

(01:24:52):
So let's go to our next caller, Rick from Chicago. Rick,
how are you hello? How are you Greg? I'm well,
thank you, congratulations on your book and the work you're doing.
Thank you. I'll get to the point. I was shocked
when I read James Comey's testimony. We've been told for
a long time now that Sally Yates sent the FBI

(01:25:17):
agent to interview General Flynn on the idea that he
violated the Logan Act, which is absurd, of course, as
you know correct, but I was shocked to read the transcript.
I'm sure you did as well. One of the few
substantive things that mister Comy testified too was that number one,

(01:25:40):
Sally Yates did not send the agents, in fact, that
she called him afterwards him was upset that he had
done so, and more importantly, number two that he came
right out and said that the Logan Act had nothing
to do with the reason he sent the agents, that
it was part of his counterintelligence investigations, that General Flinn

(01:26:02):
was under investigation as part of that problem, and not
the Logan Act. So we've been told about this Logan
Act issue, which he debunked. And also I had thought
that Sally Yates was some kind of had a hand
in the interview, but apparently did not. Did you see
that yes, I did. I read both his December seventh

(01:26:25):
testimony as well as his subsequent testimony. Everybody can read
it online. It was published the day after each of
his deposition interviews before Congress. You know, I would say this,
I don't believe anything that James Cummy says. He is
completely self serving and probably deep in his heart, he

(01:26:48):
knows that he violated all kinds of rules and regulations,
first in clearing Hillary Clinton and then launching the Trump
Russia investigation without probable causing, without any evidence, and his
conduct in in the Michael Flynn debacle. You know, they

(01:27:10):
used the Logan Act as a pretext to go after
Michael Flynn, to lie to Flynn, to convince him to
do an interview with FBI agents who were just going
to come over there and have a little chat, No
big deal, no legal jeopardy, you don't need a lawyer.
They were setting him up, and they used the Logan

(01:27:30):
Act as a pretext. For people who don't know the
Logan Act, it prohibits American citizens from interfering in diplomatic dispute.
The Logan Act, which has never been successfully prosecuted in
two hundred years, has no application to Michael Flynn because
he wasn't a private citizen. He was acting in the
course in scope of his position as the National Security

(01:27:55):
Advisor for the incoming administration. So there's no Logan Act violation.
But they used that as a pretext. And now that
Comey has been exposed for erroneously and wrongfully using that,
he's trying to change his story. Oh, it's a counterintelligence investigation,
Like what why would why would there be a counterintelligence

(01:28:17):
investigation for Michael Flynn, who's doing his job. He's supposed
to be making contact with foreign officials. I mean, that's
what all transition officials do. So don't believe anything James
Comey says. That's my advice. That's my opinion of James Comey.
He has zero credibility and he is a confessed liar.

(01:28:41):
Remember he said on television that he has lied. So
you know, and by the way, the record proves that.
Let's go to our next caller, which is Bill from
Virginia High Bill. Hey, Greg, great booklet, listening to it
now through audible, fantastic, Thank you very much, Thank you.

(01:29:04):
And regarding THEO, you know, you're welcome. Regarding the Muller investigation,
that we're doing. When is the accountability what's going to
happen Rosenstein obviously everything he's done wrong. When is something
actually going to be going to happen, and when some
accountability gonna be placed? Well, with Democrats in control of

(01:29:25):
the House, people are pessimistic that justice will be served,
that there will be some fairness and objectivity associated with
the end of the Mueller investigation in his forthcoming report.
I actually am optimistic. And why because William Barr will
surely be confirmed as the Attorney General of the United States,

(01:29:47):
and I think he is a fair man who has
impeccable legal credentials, an outstanding career, an agile mind, and
experience as the Attorney general obviously, so I think Barr
will examine the conduct of Robert Muller and his team

(01:30:07):
of partisans, examine the findings of fact and conclusions of
law stated therein, and make an equitable determination as to
whether any action should be taken. Now, you know, just
look at all of Muller's prosecutions. None of them so

(01:30:28):
far have anything whatsoever to do with Trump Russia collusion
to win the election, which was the stated order authorized
by Rod Rosenstein. And so that suggests to me that
in the end, there will be nothing there that will

(01:30:49):
tie Donald Trump to Russian collusion. Now the question will be,
are there other things in that report that rabid anti
Trump Democrats will try to use to impeach him. Of course,
whether that will be a wise political move, that's up
to Nancy Pelosi and to some extent Chuck Schumer. You know,

(01:31:13):
you've got to get a majority in the House to
vote for impeachment, two thirds to convict in the Senate.
I don't think that would ever happen, But the impeachment
hoax is alive and well, so we'll wait and see
what's in Mueller's report. It'll be important to also consider

(01:31:33):
simultaneously the Trump counter report being prepared by Jay Secalo,
Rudy Giuliani and the other attorneys on Trump's team, because remember,
Mueller is a partisan. He's only going to be presenting
the prosecutor's side. He's a prosecutor, and prosecutors only present

(01:31:54):
one side of the story. It is never fair, it
is never balanced. So to accommodate that, to counter that,
you need to consider the Trump Report, which will also
be coming out. We're gonna take a quick break more
of your calls on the other side. I'm Greg Jarrett
sitting in for Sean Hannity. My paperback, The Russia Hoax.

(01:32:18):
The paperback. Updated version of the hardback comes out one
month from now. You can order it on Amazon dot Com.
We'll be right back with more of the Sean Hannity Show.
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show on Greg Jarrett
in for Sean Today. He's on his way back to

(01:32:39):
New York, but first he was down at the border
today in Texas interviewing President Trump, who was meeting with
border security officials, looking firsthand at the situation there, the crisis,
and the question now becomes, given the Democrats refusal to
fund the wall, will the President act on his own
unilaterally by invoke the National Emergencies Act and a further

(01:33:05):
statute that allows him to construct the wall through and
with the military, even though Congress has not authorized it.
Congress passed that law. President is perfectly entitled to use
that law. He's authorized and empowered and should. And Senator
Lindsey Graham a short time ago issued a statements saying

(01:33:26):
this is what the President should do, act unilaterally build
the wall on his own. Will there be lawsuits, of course,
but there's no legal basis to sustain a challenge against
the president's legal, unfettered authority to act. So you can
watch Sean's interview tonight with the President. He'll be asking

(01:33:49):
him about that nine o'clock Eastern on the Fox News channel,
the program of courses called Hannity. And I've enjoyed being
with you over the last three hours. I want to
mention again my book, The Russia Hoax, will be coming
out in a updated paperback version with new information, facts,

(01:34:10):
evidence in law that have come to light since the
hardback was published in July. You can order it now
on Amazon dot com. It's up there. It'll be available
in bookstores nationwide beginning February twelfth. The name of the
book is The Russia Hoax, The illicit Scheme to clear
Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. I want to thank

(01:34:35):
all of our guests today. David Scheung was with us,
Jessica Vaughan, Jeffrey Lord, and all of our callers who
have a lot of great points to be made and
some serious questions that were posed. You know, Muller hired
a team of anti Trump partisans and he launched an

(01:34:56):
intensive and indiscriminate search for some proof that the President
had coordinated or conspired with Russians during the election. No
evidence has emerged, so if frustrated Robert Mueller changed tactics.
He expanded his mandate beyond its stated purpose to pursue

(01:35:17):
anybody associated with Trump. The Special Council created opportunities for
crimes where none existed, and if you want to read
more about it, check out the updated paper version of
The Russia Hoax available on Amazon dot com. I'm Greg Jarrett.

(01:35:37):
Thanks for being with us.

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