April 29, 2025 • 32 mins
Erika Donalds, Chair of America First Policy Institute’s Center for Education Opportunity, talks about today’s case before the Supreme Court of the United States.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, News round Up and Information Overload hour toll
free on numbers eight hundred and ninety four one sean
if you want to be a part of the program.
Probably one of the most consequential transformational acts that will
prove itself over time that the President has made since
he's been elected is eliminating the Department of Education and
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that will result in all likelihood block granting money to municipalities.
The President was very clear not states, but like different
areas of state, so that they can better ascertain how
to spend federal tax dollars on your child's education. And
I think this just opens up a whole variety of
options for parents, not the least of which is, you know,
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you can get a coalition of five parents and let's
say they're in New York State, they get thirty five
grand a year. You know, that's two hundred and eighty
thousand dollars for parents, and add another parent. You could
hire a teacher, and you know, for five kids, pay
a teacher a great amount of money, great benefits and
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have you know, the interpersonal interactions that you want with
kids and socialization that you want with kids, but they're
going to focus I would bet my last dollar on reading, writing, math, science,
history and computers and not a woke agenda and not
you know, the the insanity of the left and their indoctrination.
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And so I think this opens up so many different opportunities.
And we saw, for example, I mean, we paid and
this is the worst part, we paid more for capita
for student on education than any other country in the
industrialized world, and we have the worst results. We have
failed our kids spectacularly. And if you don't get a good,
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solid education. I keep going back to Morgan Freeman and
that great scene on Lean On Me, you will be
shut out. The rungs to the ladder of success will
be ripped out from under you, and you're out. And
it is we're robbing these kids of all the talent
God gave them when they were born. And it is
unconscionable what we're doing. And we see this case for
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example in Maryland argued last week before the Supreme Court
over the idea that that parents don't even have and
this was dealing with with nursery, school and kindergarteners and
books that we're dealing with trans issues and you know
LGBTQ issues, hindergarten and nursery school. I mean, I can't believe.
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I've never thought i'd hear Supreme Court justices reading passages
from books that are read to these kids. That is like,
you know, over the top. And the argument is that
parents have the right to opt out. I think it
was very clear based on and I never want to
get ahead of where judges are going to go, but
it's it's pretty clear where this case is headed, and
that means that parents will have the right to opt out.
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I personally prefer how about we opt in. How about
during the school day you focus on reading, writing, math, science, history, computers,
and then if parents want to opt in after school
and let you know, some teacher you know educate their
kids on trans issues, sexual content, etc. Then let parents
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opt in after school and stop wasting precious school time.
That's my idea. Now, in Oklahoma, they have a statewide
charter school board versus Drumming case that is now going
and anyway, Oklahoma should be able to choose the best
schools for their charter school program. The constitution prevents the
state from excluding schools simply because they are religious and anyway,
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Oklahoma law creates a charter school program. It invites private
organizations to apply to operate charter schools in the state,
except the state law says religious groups cannot participate. US
Supreme Court repeatedly is said that a state violates the
free exercise clause of the First Amendment if it establishes
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a program but excludes otherwise qualified religious organizations. By the way,
in that case in Maryland, you had an interesting coalition
of different faiths, of people of the Christian faith, people
that were Muslim, people that were Jewish, all combining, all
agreeing on the principle that parents that lee should have
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the option to opt out. We have Ericadonalds who's going
to join us in a minute. He goes through the
importance of the Supreme Court and how they must uphold
the right of parents in this particular case in other cases. Listen, well,
this case.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Is so important to uphold, as you said, the rights
of parents to direct the upbringing of their children, whether
that is religious, moral, character building, academic. We believe that
parents must be in the driver's seat. They have to
be decision made, and in this particular case there was
an opt out, but so many parents opted out of
this controversial curriculum which was being given to pre K
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through sixth graders with radical gender ideology.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It was disruptive to the school day.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But instead of addressing the controversial curriculum and respecting parents' rights,
Montgomery County decided to take the opt out away completely
and fight it all the way to the Supreme Court. Really,
we should address that these are not age appropriate books
and why are they being embedded into the English curriculum
instead of a specifically sexual content curriculum that parents can
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opt out of. There is an ideological bent here that
the school district is allowing through public tax dollars. Let's remember,
but this is why parents are opting out in a
different way and plummeting a district enrollments. Across the country,
fifty five percent, according to Gallup, are dissatisfied with the
American public school system. Parents are losing faith in the
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ability to trust the public school system to uphold their
values and respect their religious liberties.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I lost faith in them a long time ago, anyway.
Erica Donalds is the chair of America First Policy Institute's
Center for Educational Opportunity. Welcome back, Erica let's talk about
this case more importantly, the importance of educational freedom, parental rights,
equal treatment of religious people and organizations.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, thanks again for having me Sean. It's always great
to talk to you, and I really appreciate you talking
about this important issue of upholding the rights of parents
to make decisions for their children. This is yet another
case that reinforces the fact that parents must be in
the driver's seat. The case I was just talking about
is the government schools trying to implement their own value
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system and ideology into children's lives in a compulsory manner.
This case, or where I will be in front of
the Supreme Court tomorrow at the rally. The Drummond case,
which would allow parents to choose a religious virtual charter school,
is basically the opposite. It's allowing parents to opt into
a value system, a religious belief that they want their
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children to learn. And so instead of Oklahoma siding with
parents and their ability to choose a high quality educational
environment for their children, they want to trap them in
an environment that they don't want, that is not working
for their students. We know the best thing is to
give parents the multitude of options that they deserve well.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think this is a no brainer when you when
you heard the Supreme Court and the arguments that will
put for forward in the Maryland case, and you hear
justices you know, reading from these books that are designed
for pre k and kindergarten, and the sexual content and
controversial content of even transgenderism and LGBTQ. I mean to me,
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values should be instilled by parents, not by school, not
by not by teachers that have an agenda. I mean,
I don't want people that have values that it are
contrary to mine instilling them in our kids. Now, they
have a right to demand the kids behave, but short
of that, that's not their job. As parents were not
potted plants, and yet.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Their messages were the experts. Parents, you don't belong here
in the school board chambers, in the classrooms telling us
what to teach and how to teach it. But parents
have had enough. They saw during COVID the ideology that
was being pushed upon their young children, and they don't
want it. I have long said that if you think
there's no quote religion taught in public schools, you're crazy.
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They're teaching their own brand of progressive religion. Progressive values
on our children, and we absolutely had not only have
the ability to opt out of that and take the
funding with us, but.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To choose why do we have to opt out? Well,
why are we giving up our kids can't read and write?
They you know, there are schools all over the country
where kids are not at grade level in reading and
writing and math, And why are we taking precious time
away from those core subjects that will create the foundation
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for them to be successful in their lives and wasting
time on a moral agenda that in many cases contradicts
the values of parents. Why are we wasting that time?
How about you opt in after school? Then you're going
to have all the transgenderism the parents want to opt into.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Absolutely, I have run classical charter schools, and I can
tell you there is more classic literature in existence than
you can fit into thirteen years. Non controversial teaching values
that everyone can agree. We want our children to have resilience, courage, honesty.
There's plenty of those types of books to put into
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the schools that would not be controversial. But that's not
their goal shot. Their goal is social engineering. They've been
doing it for decades. Wei and I you know, the
collective we conservatives have been asleep at the wheel. We've
been allowing it to happen. Now we've got to root
it out completely. Trump has done an amazing job over
the first one hundred days with a lot of his
executive orders and setting the tone from the top. But
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it takes those of us on the ground, going to
school board meetings and fighting these case by case every
time it shows itself to do exactly what you said,
opt in or opt out completely of the public schools
and take your money elsewhere to a private education for
your child.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know, I was fortunate, especially in the grammar school
years of my kids, to send them to a private school.
And you know, because they were athletes, I ended up
sending them to a very good public school system. But
I always supplemented the education they got in school, and
they dedicated a lot of time to their sports, which
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paid off for both of them in I think significant ways,
and had tutors and all they focused on they' then
focus on, you knowvocism or transism or the Green New
Deal or LGBTQ plus anything. That's my job. I'm the parent,
and I instill my values in my kids, and then
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when they become adults. They either accept it or reject it.
And goodness, my kids agree with everything I say. Not
really but mostly.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
And Sean, every parent should have that opportunity. That's why
we fight so hard for school choice and true education
freedom in every state. Kudos to Texas that just passed
a huge school choice build is going to get signed
by the governor on Saturday. But more and more states
are turning to school choice to allow parents that same
opportunity to choose a private school environment that's best for
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their child. Maybe homeschool, maybe online school, maybe some micro
school or co op. That is the direction that we
need to go in this country. And when parents are
choosing between options, not only will academic performance increase, which
has been proven through numerous studies, but they will also
be competing for aligning with the parents' values. Just as
we've been talking about, a school that a parent can
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opt out of is not going to pull this kind
of crap hiding things from parents putting in controversial curriculum
because they'll lose the students and they'll lose the money.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I know you have to run, but we really appreciate
your time as always, Erica Donalds, thank you so much.
For being with us.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Thanks for having me, Sean, anytime.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
All right, quick break right back. A lot more of
your calls coming up straight ahead. Toll for you. It's
eight hundred and nine to four one, Sean. If you
want to be a part of the program, we'll get
to our busy telephones. Big time AJ Houston, Texas. What's
going on, baby? How are you?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Big time Shan Hennydy?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
What how's my buddy Joe Pegs doing after he got squatted?
What a story?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Oh my god, Sean, Cleaveborne guy he said he didn't
uh uh you knowne Bighten was the best guy on
the planet. Trump had the best one hundred days. Brighton
had the worst four years and he said he never
met him. But wait a minute, he campaign for him.
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And then you got all these judges on for all
this crazy crap with the illegals. Sean, we can't go
on and on and talk about how dirty rats these
people are and how they just let the country down.
Thank God for Donald Trump. That man is of God,
saying man, and the Good Lord know we needed him
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like a bad habit because of the fact that what
the Democrats did to this country the four years Biden
was in there. The media just slipped it red under
the bus.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I put it this way.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The media didn't take the banana out of the tailpipe.
I'm being nice.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
The media didn't take the banana out of the tailpipe,
and you're being nice. There's one way to put it.
You are a wordsmiths big time, no doubt about it.
But listen, I don't think what he's done more importantly.
And we have his greatest visible success on the borders
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obviously and securing them and the deportation orders that keep
going out, but he has laid the foundation for American
economic success. I do believe we'll get to the issue
of free and fair trade. He's been willing to take
on that issue that no other president's been willing to
take on for fifty or sixty years. I do believe
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we're now seeing the benefits of his energy programs. News
about that earlier today, which I touched on briefly in
the program. I mean the idea that America now is
producing more energy already than they have before. And I
just think that, you know, given time, the President's going
to have a lot of wins and rack up a
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lot of points with the American people. I think it's
going to be, you know, a very very exciting time
for the country to get back on track and return
to constitutional order. Anyway, my friend, great to hear your voy.
We appreciate you as always, big time. AJA Houston, Texas. Hey,
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it is getting obnoxious to the point I can't take
it anymore. Joe Biden's cognitive decline was obvious to everybody.
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We were the first to go hard at it, and
we were brutally, you know, attacked for it at the time. Linda,
You remember it wasn't that long ago. This was before
the twenty twenty election, and Joe Biden was not the
same Joe Biden we had previously known. He was a
cognitive mess from the get go, and it got progressively
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worse and more obvious during the four years he was president,
to the point you just never would hardly ever see
or hear from him. And it was pathetic. And one
of his closest friends when he was a senator and
vice president was Chris Coons of Delaware. And now everybody
is being asked after the the what do you call it?
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You know, that stupid White House correspondence dinner where you
have did you see the pictures of poor Humpty Dumpty
on the train and he took his shoes off and
was walking around and Amtrak specifically says you can't walk
around with your shoes off. Wait on the train he
did that. I didn't see that. Oh yeah, oh you
got to see the pictures. There are priceless. I'll send
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them to you. I know, I was going to show
it on TV less and I'm like, nobody even know.
They called them Humpty Dumpty in the post. It was
pretty funny. And you know, this is a guy that
just was obsessed with Fox twenty four to seven. He's
like a stalker anyway. But Chris Coogan's you know, claimed,
oh it was only Biden's debate performance that was the
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first time he'd seen any obvious cognitive decline. I call
complete and total BS on all of them. They all
saw it, they all were worried about it. They all
they all lied and covered it up because they just
didn't want Republicans to win, or Donald Trump specifically to win.
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That's what really happen. And anyone that says anything else,
I just call complete BS on all of them. Here's
Chris Coon's well.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
John, Obviously, if I had any idea that President Biden
was going to perform as poorly as he did at
that debate, I would have been advising him differently and
advocating differently. That debate performance was the first time I
saw anything like that out of President Biden. He had
been and was a strong and capable president, and he
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still had strong public performances, interviews, and just the next
day went to North Carolina and spoke forcefully at a rally.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But I was shocked.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
I was genuinely surprised by that performance that even center
and was wrestling with what it meant for our path forward.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh, struggling wrestly. Yeah, looks.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Some of the political players and some of them, let
me ask rhetorical.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Question, it was that bad, and it was that bad
for years. It's amazing we survived this, and then you
got little Chucky Todd. I guess you know no longer
at MSDNC, and I guess trying to create relevance. He's
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so angry at a right wing manufactured claim that the
media covered up Biden's decline. They did cover it up,
they hit it, they didn't focus on it. If it
was Donald Trump, you know they would have Listen.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
This is not a media failure. This is a failure
of the Democratic Party. And I just sort of sort
of the virtue signaling that some people have done to
try to say that the media missed the story. They
didn't miss this story. David Ignatius wrote, I just refuse
to accept this, this stupid premise, because it's a right
wing manufactured, right wing premise in order to stay in
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the media, the media has got plenty of things to
attack them for. And there are MSNBC and CNN and
pundits that absolutely carried water for Joe Biden. But they're
not journalists. They're former strategists that carried water for Joe Biden.
The journalist David Ignatius wrote a very high profile column
in October of twenty three saying, is he really running again?
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This doesn't seem like a good idea. People like me
were promoting Dean Phillips's campaign because he was running set
So you know, it's not like this. This isn't WMD's
where the White House worked with the mainstream media to
manufacture a story that did not exist. That was a
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press failure, massive press failure. This was not that failure.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
This is an.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Attempt by some to virtue signal and it's this horrible
sort of pitting different news organizations against each other, when
ultimately the people at fault are Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi,
Jill Biden, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, every elected member of Congress.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
By the way, he's no Tim Rusher. That's why he's gone.
This isn't and it's pretty pathetic. Eight hundred nine one,
Shawn is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. All right, let's get to our
busy phones as we say hi to Ted and Arizona. Ted, Hi,
how are you glad you.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Called sean king of the world.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Man, I'm not the king of anything. I'm the king
of my own mind. What's going on? Only one king
that's Jesus, not me.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I know he is the savior.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Hey man, what's going on.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
They've got to stop the deportations. Please stop the deportations.
I'm losing my businesses up here in the North. If
Bernie and I cannot make it happen, we're losing our employees.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Oh so you want the cheap labor, and you don't
really care if these unvetted Biden harrise the illegals. Have
you know terror associations or cartel members or gang members
or murderers or rapists. We don't know anything about them.
You want the cheap labor. I know you're being facetious
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invading taxes.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I don't have to pay taxes on them. I don't
have to. Please stop the deportations.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So you want to be your own benefit. I look,
there is some truth to what you're saying. There are
people and Republicans too, that have always wanted cheap labor,
and I get it. I understand you want to lower
your costs as much as possible. Look in a sense,
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I run my own business, and what are the things
things that I have never a practice I've never really
engaged in, is is not paying people. What I you know,
a decent, well earned wage. And I expect a lot
from people that I hire. I just do if you
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work in this industry, if you work on my radio
show or TV show, you better be ready to roll
up your sleeves and get to work every day. And
I try to, you know, be nice to people and
give them the latitude that they need to do the
things that are important to them. And you know, I
learned very quickly what people's strengths and weaknesses are. And
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you know, as long as the job gets done, I
try to be as hands off as possible, you know,
for those people that you know, if you're doing whatever,
whatever task it might be that maybe doesn't require a
lot of thought or education. I'm sorry. I just you know,
you're gonna have to pay the right and pay American
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workers and not take advantage of the system and do
things legally. That's it. You know, it's not that much
to ask. Appreciate the call ed thank you. Let's say
hi to Michael Texas. God bless Texas. Michael.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
How are you just fine? Thank you for letting me
get my voice out there on this immigration policy here
in Texas. I don't know if it's still on the books,
because I don't have access to a law library, just
to online stuff that you read. But we have a
law here that makes it illegal to hire, rent to
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or give any kind of aid. Tell somebody where to
get aid if you're here here illegally. Now, if we
took and made that a national law and find the
owners of the companies that are hiring them, say five
thousand dollars per person, the people that are renting to them,
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find them five thousand dollars per person, they would let
these people go. The people would not have any reason
to stay here, and they would self the port without
taxpayer money funding it. Now, that's pure and simple. I
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don't know why they haven't. Governor Gregg hasn't enforced this law,
But we have a lot and it is both sides
of the Isle, Democrat and Republicans. They both own ranches
and farms down here, and they all use illegals. Now,
I'm speaking as a retired forty five year construction worker,
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and every time a president gave amnesty to all of
these millions of illegals down through the year, guess what,
I was out of a job and it got so
bad that I couldn't get a job non union. So
I joined the union, and I really didn't want to
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because I'm not a socialist. I'm not a communist, but
I needed a job and that was the only place
that I could get a job. Now, if we get
rid of all of these illegals, yes, it's going to
hurt some restaurants and some packing industries for a little while.
It'll force them to raise their wages up to something
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that somebody can actually live on, and solve the problem
without our taxpayer money.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Listen, I'm just going to tell you right now, it's
very very simple. First, we do it for national safety
and security. Second, if you don't have borders, you don't
have a country. Third, we are a nation governed by
the rule of law, and if you want to come
into our country, I really have no problem with it.
I think we need a background check, knowing that there
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are enemies of our country that would like to commit
violent acts against Americans and acts of terrorism against our country.
Then after, in a post COVID world, I would say,
we absolutely positively need some type of health check, and
then then we've got a means test. People. You cannot
be a financial burden on the American people. I mean
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the amount of money that we're spending billions of dollars,
for example, on healthcare. And then you've got the impact
it's having on the educational system and the criminal justice system.
And then worse than you have people unvetted in the
country that are capable of committing you know, great murder
and another violent crimes. Oh right, so we've got to
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get control of it.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
I've had to deal with them. Go into the laundry
mat and put my laundry in to dry, and go
out and sit in my vehicles, or read a book
and go back in and lo and behold, I'm instead
of five pairs of pants I have in there, there's
only three pairs of pants. So you know, the people
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coming from poor countries basically are all thieves of opportunity.
They may not go out looking for it, but if
the opportunity rises, they will take it. But now they're
taking our jobs. And like I say, I ended up
having to join the union, and I ended up working
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at a union contractor that was actually using illegal aliens.
So if we passed the law and find the owners
of the company, not anybody else, just the owners of
the company, five thousand dollars per person. You watch them
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beat feet to Mexico in a hurry, they'll go back
across the border so fast.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Well, right now, they have an opportunity that they've given
and I forget what the deadline is, that they can
self deport, and if they self deport, they'd have a
chance to come back to the country. If they don't
self deport, they'll never have that chance again. And then
when they are deported, it's over for them. Anyway. I
have to run. I do appreciate your call. Eight hundred
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, News round Up and Information Overload hour toll
free on numbers eight hundred and ninety four one sean
if you want to be a part of the program.
Probably one of the most consequential transformational acts that will
prove itself over time that the President has made since
he's been elected is eliminating the Department of Education and
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that will result in all likelihood block granting money to municipalities.
The President was very clear not states, but like different
areas of state, so that they can better ascertain how
to spend federal tax dollars on your child's education. And
I think this just opens up a whole variety of
options for parents, not the least of which is, you know,
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you can get a coalition of five parents and let's
say they're in New York State, they get thirty five
grand a year. You know, that's two hundred and eighty
thousand dollars for parents, and add another parent. You could
hire a teacher, and you know, for five kids, pay
a teacher a great amount of money, great benefits and
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have you know, the interpersonal interactions that you want with
kids and socialization that you want with kids, but they're
going to focus I would bet my last dollar on reading, writing, math, science,
history and computers and not a woke agenda and not
you know, the the insanity of the left and their indoctrination.
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And so I think this opens up so many different opportunities.
And we saw, for example, I mean, we paid and
this is the worst part, we paid more for capita
for student on education than any other country in the
industrialized world, and we have the worst results. We have
failed our kids spectacularly. And if you don't get a good,
(01:54):
solid education. I keep going back to Morgan Freeman and
that great scene on Lean On Me, you will be
shut out. The rungs to the ladder of success will
be ripped out from under you, and you're out. And
it is we're robbing these kids of all the talent
God gave them when they were born. And it is
unconscionable what we're doing. And we see this case for
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example in Maryland argued last week before the Supreme Court
over the idea that that parents don't even have and
this was dealing with with nursery, school and kindergarteners and
books that we're dealing with trans issues and you know
LGBTQ issues, hindergarten and nursery school. I mean, I can't believe.
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I've never thought i'd hear Supreme Court justices reading passages
from books that are read to these kids. That is like,
you know, over the top. And the argument is that
parents have the right to opt out. I think it
was very clear based on and I never want to
get ahead of where judges are going to go, but
it's it's pretty clear where this case is headed, and
that means that parents will have the right to opt out.
(03:00):
I personally prefer how about we opt in. How about
during the school day you focus on reading, writing, math, science, history, computers,
and then if parents want to opt in after school
and let you know, some teacher you know educate their
kids on trans issues, sexual content, etc. Then let parents
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opt in after school and stop wasting precious school time.
That's my idea. Now, in Oklahoma, they have a statewide
charter school board versus Drumming case that is now going
and anyway, Oklahoma should be able to choose the best
schools for their charter school program. The constitution prevents the
state from excluding schools simply because they are religious and anyway,
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Oklahoma law creates a charter school program. It invites private
organizations to apply to operate charter schools in the state,
except the state law says religious groups cannot participate. US
Supreme Court repeatedly is said that a state violates the
free exercise clause of the First Amendment if it establishes
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a program but excludes otherwise qualified religious organizations. By the way,
in that case in Maryland, you had an interesting coalition
of different faiths, of people of the Christian faith, people
that were Muslim, people that were Jewish, all combining, all
agreeing on the principle that parents that lee should have
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the option to opt out. We have Ericadonalds who's going
to join us in a minute. He goes through the
importance of the Supreme Court and how they must uphold
the right of parents in this particular case in other cases. Listen, well,
this case.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Is so important to uphold, as you said, the rights
of parents to direct the upbringing of their children, whether
that is religious, moral, character building, academic. We believe that
parents must be in the driver's seat. They have to
be decision made, and in this particular case there was
an opt out, but so many parents opted out of
this controversial curriculum which was being given to pre K
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through sixth graders with radical gender ideology.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It was disruptive to the school day.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But instead of addressing the controversial curriculum and respecting parents' rights,
Montgomery County decided to take the opt out away completely
and fight it all the way to the Supreme Court. Really,
we should address that these are not age appropriate books
and why are they being embedded into the English curriculum
instead of a specifically sexual content curriculum that parents can
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opt out of. There is an ideological bent here that
the school district is allowing through public tax dollars. Let's remember,
but this is why parents are opting out in a
different way and plummeting a district enrollments. Across the country,
fifty five percent, according to Gallup, are dissatisfied with the
American public school system. Parents are losing faith in the
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ability to trust the public school system to uphold their
values and respect their religious liberties.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I lost faith in them a long time ago, anyway.
Erica Donalds is the chair of America First Policy Institute's
Center for Educational Opportunity. Welcome back, Erica let's talk about
this case more importantly, the importance of educational freedom, parental rights,
equal treatment of religious people and organizations.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, thanks again for having me Sean. It's always great
to talk to you, and I really appreciate you talking
about this important issue of upholding the rights of parents
to make decisions for their children. This is yet another
case that reinforces the fact that parents must be in
the driver's seat. The case I was just talking about
is the government schools trying to implement their own value
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system and ideology into children's lives in a compulsory manner.
This case, or where I will be in front of
the Supreme Court tomorrow at the rally. The Drummond case,
which would allow parents to choose a religious virtual charter school,
is basically the opposite. It's allowing parents to opt into
a value system, a religious belief that they want their
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children to learn. And so instead of Oklahoma siding with
parents and their ability to choose a high quality educational
environment for their children, they want to trap them in
an environment that they don't want, that is not working
for their students. We know the best thing is to
give parents the multitude of options that they deserve well.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think this is a no brainer when you when
you heard the Supreme Court and the arguments that will
put for forward in the Maryland case, and you hear
justices you know, reading from these books that are designed
for pre k and kindergarten, and the sexual content and
controversial content of even transgenderism and LGBTQ. I mean to me,
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values should be instilled by parents, not by school, not
by not by teachers that have an agenda. I mean,
I don't want people that have values that it are
contrary to mine instilling them in our kids. Now, they
have a right to demand the kids behave, but short
of that, that's not their job. As parents were not
potted plants, and yet.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Their messages were the experts. Parents, you don't belong here
in the school board chambers, in the classrooms telling us
what to teach and how to teach it. But parents
have had enough. They saw during COVID the ideology that
was being pushed upon their young children, and they don't
want it. I have long said that if you think
there's no quote religion taught in public schools, you're crazy.
(08:39):
They're teaching their own brand of progressive religion. Progressive values
on our children, and we absolutely had not only have
the ability to opt out of that and take the
funding with us, but.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To choose why do we have to opt out? Well,
why are we giving up our kids can't read and write?
They you know, there are schools all over the country
where kids are not at grade level in reading and
writing and math, And why are we taking precious time
away from those core subjects that will create the foundation
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for them to be successful in their lives and wasting
time on a moral agenda that in many cases contradicts
the values of parents. Why are we wasting that time?
How about you opt in after school? Then you're going
to have all the transgenderism the parents want to opt into.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Absolutely, I have run classical charter schools, and I can
tell you there is more classic literature in existence than
you can fit into thirteen years. Non controversial teaching values
that everyone can agree. We want our children to have resilience, courage, honesty.
There's plenty of those types of books to put into
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the schools that would not be controversial. But that's not
their goal shot. Their goal is social engineering. They've been
doing it for decades. Wei and I you know, the
collective we conservatives have been asleep at the wheel. We've
been allowing it to happen. Now we've got to root
it out completely. Trump has done an amazing job over
the first one hundred days with a lot of his
executive orders and setting the tone from the top. But
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it takes those of us on the ground, going to
school board meetings and fighting these case by case every
time it shows itself to do exactly what you said,
opt in or opt out completely of the public schools
and take your money elsewhere to a private education for
your child.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know, I was fortunate, especially in the grammar school
years of my kids, to send them to a private school.
And you know, because they were athletes, I ended up
sending them to a very good public school system. But
I always supplemented the education they got in school, and
they dedicated a lot of time to their sports, which
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paid off for both of them in I think significant ways,
and had tutors and all they focused on they' then
focus on, you knowvocism or transism or the Green New
Deal or LGBTQ plus anything. That's my job. I'm the parent,
and I instill my values in my kids, and then
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when they become adults. They either accept it or reject it.
And goodness, my kids agree with everything I say. Not
really but mostly.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
And Sean, every parent should have that opportunity. That's why
we fight so hard for school choice and true education
freedom in every state. Kudos to Texas that just passed
a huge school choice build is going to get signed
by the governor on Saturday. But more and more states
are turning to school choice to allow parents that same
opportunity to choose a private school environment that's best for
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their child. Maybe homeschool, maybe online school, maybe some micro
school or co op. That is the direction that we
need to go in this country. And when parents are
choosing between options, not only will academic performance increase, which
has been proven through numerous studies, but they will also
be competing for aligning with the parents' values. Just as
we've been talking about, a school that a parent can
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opt out of is not going to pull this kind
of crap hiding things from parents putting in controversial curriculum
because they'll lose the students and they'll lose the money.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I know you have to run, but we really appreciate
your time as always, Erica Donalds, thank you so much.
For being with us.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Thanks for having me, Sean, anytime.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
All right, quick break right back. A lot more of
your calls coming up straight ahead. Toll for you. It's
eight hundred and nine to four one, Sean. If you
want to be a part of the program, we'll get
to our busy telephones. Big time AJ Houston, Texas. What's
going on, baby? How are you?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Big time Shan Hennydy?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
What how's my buddy Joe Pegs doing after he got squatted?
What a story?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Oh my god, Sean, Cleaveborne guy he said he didn't
uh uh you knowne Bighten was the best guy on
the planet. Trump had the best one hundred days. Brighton
had the worst four years and he said he never
met him. But wait a minute, he campaign for him.
(13:03):
And then you got all these judges on for all
this crazy crap with the illegals. Sean, we can't go
on and on and talk about how dirty rats these
people are and how they just let the country down.
Thank God for Donald Trump. That man is of God,
saying man, and the Good Lord know we needed him
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like a bad habit because of the fact that what
the Democrats did to this country the four years Biden
was in there. The media just slipped it red under
the bus.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I put it this way.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The media didn't take the banana out of the tailpipe.
I'm being nice.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
The media didn't take the banana out of the tailpipe,
and you're being nice. There's one way to put it.
You are a wordsmiths big time, no doubt about it.
But listen, I don't think what he's done more importantly.
And we have his greatest visible success on the borders
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obviously and securing them and the deportation orders that keep
going out, but he has laid the foundation for American
economic success. I do believe we'll get to the issue
of free and fair trade. He's been willing to take
on that issue that no other president's been willing to
take on for fifty or sixty years. I do believe
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we're now seeing the benefits of his energy programs. News
about that earlier today, which I touched on briefly in
the program. I mean the idea that America now is
producing more energy already than they have before. And I
just think that, you know, given time, the President's going
to have a lot of wins and rack up a
(14:49):
lot of points with the American people. I think it's
going to be, you know, a very very exciting time
for the country to get back on track and return
to constitutional order. Anyway, my friend, great to hear your voy.
We appreciate you as always, big time. AJA Houston, Texas. Hey,
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it is getting obnoxious to the point I can't take
it anymore. Joe Biden's cognitive decline was obvious to everybody.
(19:06):
We were the first to go hard at it, and
we were brutally, you know, attacked for it at the time. Linda,
You remember it wasn't that long ago. This was before
the twenty twenty election, and Joe Biden was not the
same Joe Biden we had previously known. He was a
cognitive mess from the get go, and it got progressively
(19:29):
worse and more obvious during the four years he was president,
to the point you just never would hardly ever see
or hear from him. And it was pathetic. And one
of his closest friends when he was a senator and
vice president was Chris Coons of Delaware. And now everybody
is being asked after the the what do you call it?
(19:52):
You know, that stupid White House correspondence dinner where you
have did you see the pictures of poor Humpty Dumpty
on the train and he took his shoes off and
was walking around and Amtrak specifically says you can't walk
around with your shoes off. Wait on the train he
did that. I didn't see that. Oh yeah, oh you
got to see the pictures. There are priceless. I'll send
(20:14):
them to you. I know, I was going to show
it on TV less and I'm like, nobody even know.
They called them Humpty Dumpty in the post. It was
pretty funny. And you know, this is a guy that
just was obsessed with Fox twenty four to seven. He's
like a stalker anyway. But Chris Coogan's you know, claimed,
oh it was only Biden's debate performance that was the
(20:35):
first time he'd seen any obvious cognitive decline. I call
complete and total BS on all of them. They all
saw it, they all were worried about it. They all
they all lied and covered it up because they just
didn't want Republicans to win, or Donald Trump specifically to win.
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That's what really happen. And anyone that says anything else,
I just call complete BS on all of them. Here's
Chris Coon's well.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
John, Obviously, if I had any idea that President Biden
was going to perform as poorly as he did at
that debate, I would have been advising him differently and
advocating differently. That debate performance was the first time I
saw anything like that out of President Biden. He had
been and was a strong and capable president, and he
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still had strong public performances, interviews, and just the next
day went to North Carolina and spoke forcefully at a rally.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But I was shocked.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
I was genuinely surprised by that performance that even center
and was wrestling with what it meant for our path forward.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh, struggling wrestly. Yeah, looks.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Some of the political players and some of them, let
me ask rhetorical.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Question, it was that bad, and it was that bad
for years. It's amazing we survived this, and then you
got little Chucky Todd. I guess you know no longer
at MSDNC, and I guess trying to create relevance. He's
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so angry at a right wing manufactured claim that the
media covered up Biden's decline. They did cover it up,
they hit it, they didn't focus on it. If it
was Donald Trump, you know they would have Listen.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
This is not a media failure. This is a failure
of the Democratic Party. And I just sort of sort
of the virtue signaling that some people have done to
try to say that the media missed the story. They
didn't miss this story. David Ignatius wrote, I just refuse
to accept this, this stupid premise, because it's a right
wing manufactured, right wing premise in order to stay in
(23:03):
the media, the media has got plenty of things to
attack them for. And there are MSNBC and CNN and
pundits that absolutely carried water for Joe Biden. But they're
not journalists. They're former strategists that carried water for Joe Biden.
The journalist David Ignatius wrote a very high profile column
in October of twenty three saying, is he really running again?
(23:25):
This doesn't seem like a good idea. People like me
were promoting Dean Phillips's campaign because he was running set
So you know, it's not like this. This isn't WMD's
where the White House worked with the mainstream media to
manufacture a story that did not exist. That was a
(23:47):
press failure, massive press failure. This was not that failure.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
This is an.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Attempt by some to virtue signal and it's this horrible
sort of pitting different news organizations against each other, when
ultimately the people at fault are Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi,
Jill Biden, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, every elected member of Congress.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
By the way, he's no Tim Rusher. That's why he's gone.
This isn't and it's pretty pathetic. Eight hundred nine one,
Shawn is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. All right, let's get to our
busy phones as we say hi to Ted and Arizona. Ted, Hi,
how are you glad you.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Called sean king of the world.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Man, I'm not the king of anything. I'm the king
of my own mind. What's going on? Only one king
that's Jesus, not me.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I know he is the savior.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Hey man, what's going on.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
They've got to stop the deportations. Please stop the deportations.
I'm losing my businesses up here in the North. If
Bernie and I cannot make it happen, we're losing our employees.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Oh so you want the cheap labor, and you don't
really care if these unvetted Biden harrise the illegals. Have
you know terror associations or cartel members or gang members
or murderers or rapists. We don't know anything about them.
You want the cheap labor. I know you're being facetious
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invading taxes.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I don't have to pay taxes on them. I don't
have to. Please stop the deportations.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So you want to be your own benefit. I look,
there is some truth to what you're saying. There are
people and Republicans too, that have always wanted cheap labor,
and I get it. I understand you want to lower
your costs as much as possible. Look in a sense,
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I run my own business, and what are the things
things that I have never a practice I've never really
engaged in, is is not paying people. What I you know,
a decent, well earned wage. And I expect a lot
from people that I hire. I just do if you
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work in this industry, if you work on my radio
show or TV show, you better be ready to roll
up your sleeves and get to work every day. And
I try to, you know, be nice to people and
give them the latitude that they need to do the
things that are important to them. And you know, I
learned very quickly what people's strengths and weaknesses are. And
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you know, as long as the job gets done, I
try to be as hands off as possible, you know,
for those people that you know, if you're doing whatever,
whatever task it might be that maybe doesn't require a
lot of thought or education. I'm sorry. I just you know,
you're gonna have to pay the right and pay American
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workers and not take advantage of the system and do
things legally. That's it. You know, it's not that much
to ask. Appreciate the call ed thank you. Let's say
hi to Michael Texas. God bless Texas. Michael.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
How are you just fine? Thank you for letting me
get my voice out there on this immigration policy here
in Texas. I don't know if it's still on the books,
because I don't have access to a law library, just
to online stuff that you read. But we have a
law here that makes it illegal to hire, rent to
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or give any kind of aid. Tell somebody where to
get aid if you're here here illegally. Now, if we
took and made that a national law and find the
owners of the companies that are hiring them, say five
thousand dollars per person, the people that are renting to them,
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find them five thousand dollars per person, they would let
these people go. The people would not have any reason
to stay here, and they would self the port without
taxpayer money funding it. Now, that's pure and simple. I
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don't know why they haven't. Governor Gregg hasn't enforced this law,
But we have a lot and it is both sides
of the Isle, Democrat and Republicans. They both own ranches
and farms down here, and they all use illegals. Now,
I'm speaking as a retired forty five year construction worker,
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and every time a president gave amnesty to all of
these millions of illegals down through the year, guess what,
I was out of a job and it got so
bad that I couldn't get a job non union. So
I joined the union, and I really didn't want to
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because I'm not a socialist. I'm not a communist, but
I needed a job and that was the only place
that I could get a job. Now, if we get
rid of all of these illegals, yes, it's going to
hurt some restaurants and some packing industries for a little while.
It'll force them to raise their wages up to something
(29:39):
that somebody can actually live on, and solve the problem
without our taxpayer money.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Listen, I'm just going to tell you right now, it's
very very simple. First, we do it for national safety
and security. Second, if you don't have borders, you don't
have a country. Third, we are a nation governed by
the rule of law, and if you want to come
into our country, I really have no problem with it.
I think we need a background check, knowing that there
(30:10):
are enemies of our country that would like to commit
violent acts against Americans and acts of terrorism against our country.
Then after, in a post COVID world, I would say,
we absolutely positively need some type of health check, and
then then we've got a means test. People. You cannot
be a financial burden on the American people. I mean
(30:30):
the amount of money that we're spending billions of dollars,
for example, on healthcare. And then you've got the impact
it's having on the educational system and the criminal justice system.
And then worse than you have people unvetted in the
country that are capable of committing you know, great murder
and another violent crimes. Oh right, so we've got to
(30:52):
get control of it.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
I've had to deal with them. Go into the laundry
mat and put my laundry in to dry, and go
out and sit in my vehicles, or read a book
and go back in and lo and behold, I'm instead
of five pairs of pants I have in there, there's
only three pairs of pants. So you know, the people
(31:16):
coming from poor countries basically are all thieves of opportunity.
They may not go out looking for it, but if
the opportunity rises, they will take it. But now they're
taking our jobs. And like I say, I ended up
having to join the union, and I ended up working
(31:39):
at a union contractor that was actually using illegal aliens.
So if we passed the law and find the owners
of the company, not anybody else, just the owners of
the company, five thousand dollars per person. You watch them
(31:59):
beat feet to Mexico in a hurry, they'll go back
across the border so fast.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Well, right now, they have an opportunity that they've given
and I forget what the deadline is, that they can
self deport, and if they self deport, they'd have a
chance to come back to the country. If they don't
self deport, they'll never have that chance again. And then
when they are deported, it's over for them. Anyway. I
have to run. I do appreciate your call. Eight hundred
(32:24):
and ninety four one, Shawn is a number, and that's
a wrap things up for today Hannity. Tonight, the one
hundred daymark of President Trump, we will be joined by
Senate Majority Leader John Thune, the House Speaker Mike Johnson,
our favorite Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana will check in
with us. Also the Attorney General Pam Bondi, Jim Jordan,
(32:45):
and for the other news of the day, Clay Travis,
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