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few minutes, I'll be joined by Peter Schweitzer, who is
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one of the best authors when it comes to political corruption.
He's the author of the book Blood Money, Red Handed,
Throw Them Out Profiles, and Corruption Secret Empires. My favorite
is actually Clinton Cash, which was an eye opening book
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into what I think is you know, Clinton, Hillary Clinton corruption,
and in fact so much so that I quoted it
pretty extensively in the first three or four chapters of
my book of the Russia Hoax that came out in
two thousand and eighteen. Speaking of the Russia Hoax, so
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there obviously. A couple of days ago the news broke.
Fox News exclusively had it that the Department of Justice
and the FBI have launched a criminal investigation into James
Commy and John Brennan, and it arises out of the
pernicious lie that Donald Trump colluded with Russia to the
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twenty sixteen presidential election in his favor. And the principal
piece of so called evidence was a document infamously known
as the Dossier. It was secretly financed by Hillary Clinton.
In fact, she invented the hoax. And then you know
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it was the dossier was written by Christopher Steele, this
foreign agent, ex British spy with a checkered pasted in espionage.
As I said, either yesterday today, maybe both. You know,
this is a guy who thought he was James Bond,
but he was Inspector Clouseau. And then of course Comey
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and Brennan and Clapper and the whole gang brokeered it
to collaborators all over the place, the Fbiica, Department of Justice,
of course, the Trump hating media, and the dossier was
complete garbage. The FBI debunked it almost from the outset.
They fired Christopher Steele, who was a human source for
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the FBI. Why did they fire him? Because he was lying?
And you know, but the Bureau and Comey concealed those
inconvenient facts and exploited the document as a pretext to
go after Trump with a vengeance, first to prevent him
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from getting elected. When that failed, they doubled down to
drive him from office. And a guy who knows a
lot about this is Peter Schweitzer. As I mentioned, he's
president of the Government Accountability Project, host of the Drill
Down podcast, New York Times best selling author. I mentioned
five or six of his books just a moment ago.
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They're all must reads, and Peter joins us now live
on the Sean Hannity Show. Peter, thanks so much for
being with us. So what is your general reaction to
the news that Comy and Clapper are under investigation? Excuse me,
Comy and Brennan are under investigation.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's great to be with you as always. Greg. Yeah,
you were on the on the you know, the front
of this story. Really. I remember when you and I
talked about this in twenty seventeen, when the initial news
was breaking about these allegations about Trump, and you know,
there was a moment when I thought, man, these are
such serious charges. They seem to have detail, and you
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know you told me, you said, look, there's another shoe
that's going to drop about you know how this is
all fake and made up. And look at what it
put our country through, you know, in twenty sixteen, really
up until the present time. And the question is should
there be a price or consequence paid for that by
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senior intelligence officials. And the fact of the matter is,
if you break the law, doesn't matter what your role is.
And I think that just on the issue of lying
to Congress, the evidence seems overwhelming. I always defer to
you on the on the legal part of this, but
you know, lying to Congress is actually supposed to be
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a serious crime, and not just if you or I
were to do it, if the head of the CIA
or the head of National Intelligence has done it. And
I think that is where it's going to begin, but
I think the investigation is going to expand beyond that
because you had a misbuse of misuse or a abuse
of power by both of these individuals. And the thing
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we know about Washington, Greg is if you allow things
to fester, if you allow people to get away with
this kind of conduct, it will be imitated. And it
has in fact been imitated. So you have to if
they've broken a law, which I think they clearly have,
to make an example and demonstrate to people this is
not the sort of behavior that will can allow are
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elected our officials to do to put our country through.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know, Democrats and and Brennan himself is a classic projection.
Oh this is vengeance, retribution. It's politically driven, and of
course he's accusing Republicans are doing exactly what democrats did. So,
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as I say, it's classic, you know, psychological projection. But
you know, I talked to new Gingrish about this yesterday, Peter,
and he said, well, if you find out that somebody
has broken the law, what are he's supposed to do? Say, oh, well,
you know you're a Democrat, so have a nice stay,
no problem, will look the other way. No, you can't
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do that. You have to enforce the law, and it
doesn't matter whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. I
mean that's the way I see it. I suspect you
see it that.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Way too, absolutely. And look, here's the thing, especially these
guys that are in the intelligence world. Look, we need
people in the intelligence world. Everybody acknowledges that we need
people keeping track of our enemies. We need to be
able to engage in COVID actions. But what you really
had here was a COVID action carried out against the
United States in the United States, and that's not something
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that these intelligence agencies are supposed to be doing. And
I think in your introduction you laid it out really well,
which is they knew that the dossier was fake. They
use it as a predicate to expand the investigation. There
was all this garbage that was put out, Remember the
whole thing about Alpha Bank, that somehow Trump had some
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back channel to Alpha Bank, which was totally ridiculous. The
New York Times covered that story based on quote unquote
intelligence leaks. This was a dirty op that was carried
out on the American people, and it was targeted, as
you said, it was targeted against a particular individual, Donald Trump.
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And it's the classic example of corrupt behavior. You know,
they used. The definition was the definition of a dirty cop.
A dirty cop says I've found the man. Now I'm
going to find the crime. In other words, I don't
like this guy. I want this guy gone, So I'm
going to figure out some way to concoct something to
put him away. And that's what they did to Donald Trump.
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So the question becomes, what do you do in that
kind of scenario. Does anybody want to live in a
country where both sides or up to this point has
been one side, but both sides are doing this to
each other. No, that's why you have to bring clarity
to this, and you have to again demonstrate that intelligence
operatives cannot, under any guys be carrying out these kinds
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of COVID operations within our borders, to try to manipulate
an election, to try to overturn an election by you know,
getting a president compeached, and that was their goal, I
think along First it was to defeat him in the
ballot box. That didn't happen in twenty sixteen. Then it
became we've got to get this guy out of power
by any means necessary.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And you know, they were so clever and conniving about it.
When I wrote my first two books, particularly the second book,
I laid out what I thought was Hillary Clinton's role,
that she was behind it all, And of course I
knew then that she had financed it her campaign and
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the Democratic National Committee had paid for the dossier. And
you know, Christopher Steele was triple dipping money from the
Hillary campaign, money from the Democratic National Committee, money from
James Comey's FBI. But what I didn't know is that,
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and it came out the year after witch Hunt was published,
there was a secret meeting in the Oval Office with
President Barack Obama and Loretta Lynch, the Attorney General, was there.
Joe Biden was there Vice President at the time, and
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James Clapper, who was the DNI and Brennan shows up
and he tells them that we have found out that
Hillary Clinton has approved a plan pitched to her by
her accolytes to smear Donald Trump as a Russian agent
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to rig the twenty sixteen election. Now was totally made up,
and her motivation was to distract from her own email scandal,
which was damaging her campaign. And somebody came up with
the idea and again she approved it that we can
shift the attention away to a greater scandal involving Donald Trump's.
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So Obama knew about it, Biden knew about it, obviously,
Brennan Comy knew about it, and almost simultaneously, the you know,
dossier began to appear. The dossier was actually handed over
on July fifth, so before the July twenty eighth Oval
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Office meeting, was handed over the FBI in London. And
you know, I didn't know then, but we now know
now that Hillary Clinton was behind it. And I bring
it up because you wrote the book Clinton Cash, and
it just dovetails with the schemes of the Clintons, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It does, Greg right, And by the way, which Hunt
was just superb in sort of laying out the ins
and outs of the evolution of this. There's also interesting
confirmation from another source, Greg, and that is a guy
that you to write for The New York Times named
Jeff Girth. He wrote a piece in Pro Publica, which is,
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you know, left wing funded in part by Soros, at
least it used to be, and he wrote a long
essay in the origins of the Steele dossier, and he
came to the same conclusion. And in fact, what he
points out is that the Clinton campaign after Clinton Cash
came out, and you and I talked a lot about that,
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and you really helpful and spreading the word about the
uranium one story, the fact that you know, the Clinton
Foundation had taken money from investors who were involved in
helping Russia Rosatom to acquire these US uranium minds. Girth
found that the Clinton campaign had actually done polling and
found that one of the most damaging things to her
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with voters was uranium one. And Girth in his article
says that one of the reasons they wanted to finger
Trump as a Russian acta said, was to flip the narrative.
As you said earlier, the things that they accuse Republicans
of doing oftentimes they themselves are actually literally doing and
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that is the case here. And so it was a
a you know, clever, slick manipulation and what they were
counting on and what they got was this lovely response
of the mainstream media. Think about this, Greg, I mean,
you and I have been doing this for a long time.
If somebody came to you and said, hey, I've got
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this thing on Joe Biden and it has all these
things on Joe Biden that you want to believe, but
it's completely unsourced and some of it is just ridiculous,
totally out of character, you would just say, well, first
of all, what is the sourcing. Second of all, you know,
are there you know, multiple sources. You would ask questions.
The media didn't do any of that with the Steel dossi.
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The Steele dossier was anonymously sourced, It had ridiculous stories
in and the media ran with it hook line and sinker,
just like the Clintons expected them to do. And then
they used the mainstream media buy into reporting on these
lies to justify further investigations of Donald Trump, his family,
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people in his circle. So it's just like revolving door,
this reinforcing structure that operates all based on pedled lies,
and again, do we want to go through that again?
Do we want people to be able to manipulate that way? Again?
I don't think so. So that's why I think these
legal investigations are very very important, and I give the
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Trump administration a lot of credit for doing it. Takes
a lot of courage because this sort of thing hasn't
been done before, and by the way, it hasn't been
done before because I think it's harder to find something
more outrageous as a smear than the Steele dossier. So
it is well up to side.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
The great Peter Schweizer, Thank you so much for taking
the time.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Again.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Peter has written so many great books. My favorite Clinton Cash,
but also Blood Money, Red Handed, throw them all out,
Secret Empires, Profiles, and Corruption. The guy is all over it,
all bestsellers. You got to read him. Peter Schwitzer, Thanks
very much. We'll be right back. Give us a call,
join the program, whether your question or comments one eight
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hundred and nine four to one, Sean, We'll be right
back and we're back with the Haunt Sean Hannity Shaw.
I'm Greag Jared filling in for Sean time for your calls.
We've mostly been talking about how John Ratcliffe, the current
CI director, has declassified and released an internal agency review
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of all the machinations that helped fuel the Russia hoax,
and then he issued a statement all world can now
see the truth. Brennan, Clapper, and Comy manipulated intelligence and
silenced career professionals all to get Trump, And in an
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interview with a New York Post, he said this, this
was Obama, Comy, Clapper, and Brennan deciding we're going to
screw Trump, and that's what they did. And of course
it all turned out to be a hoax, which means
now the FBI in the Department of Justice is investigating
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two of the people, James Comy and John Brennan, false statements, perjury,
Maybe how about defrauding the government, deprivation of rights under
color of law, conspiracy. I think all of that is
in play. It should be whether or not a grand
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jury will issue indictments. Only time will tell. Time for
your I want to thank you for waiting patiently. Let's
go to our first caller, Eric's been standing by from Texas,
and by the way, our hearts and prayers go out
to the people of Texas for their horrible losses. But Eric,
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do you have a question or a comment?
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Two part question, Greg, You're doing great. Unfortunately I do
have a buddy of mine who's got a daughter missing
is horrible. So given the payment, the parties involved, and
the and the continued acts of a mission, at what
point does this is there enough there for it to
be considered treason? And then the second part is what
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are the statues and limitations on such a crime against
the United States?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well, treason is you know, efforts to overthrow the government.
This looks like efforts to overthrow an election, to rig
an election in favor of you know, Hillary Clinton and
against Donald try tromp back in twenty and sixteen. I'm sorry,
what was the second part of your questionnaire?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
What are the statue limitations on where to be considered treason?
And if we and then I guess maybe that fall
up to that would be is there something else that
they would likely be charged with?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Yeah, or to get.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Something on any of these parties.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So the ones I just mentioned, you know, defrauding the
government seven year statue limitations, deprivation of rights five years,
the you know, false statements is five years perjury, five years.
Here's the thing. Brennan last testified falsely I think, with
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just my opinion two years ago in twenty twenty three.
So there's no statue of limitation problems there. As for
the other ones. The seven year doesn't pose a problem.
The five year would. But the law says you suspend
the statut limitations if there's incriminating evidence, deliberately held or
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fraudulent concealment. Well, because we've just now found out this
new information that was clearly concealed over at the Central
Intelligence Agency, and I'm guessing more at the FBI, that
would toll the statute of limitations, and it doesn't start
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running until the discovery of the concealed incriminating information. So
you know, there's there are ways of getting around the
statutal limitations for the crimes that I think they're looking
at treason. I doubt very much if they'd be looking
at that. But good question, Eric, and thanks so much
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for joining us. Let me turn to Blake now from Florida. Hi, Blake,
how are you, Hi?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I Greg I'm on WKV here in Jacksonville. Great job
you're doing today. You saw to a lot of your
comments with Hillary Clinton being involved in the creation of this,
and we need to go back to the remember the
fact that Hillary Clinton was an understudy of Salolensky and
he wrote the book Rules for Radicals, and one of
the things that they deposited in that book was that
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you attack where you blame your adversary for the bad
work that you're doing. And that's exactly what's happened, and
all the way through this, from the very beginning, I
think we need to keep in mind just exactly where
this has come from, because this is their playbook that
the Democrats have been playing, have been using.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, dirty tricks. I mean, you know, it's right out
of the Dick Nixon dirty Tricks playbook as well. And
you know that's no coincidence the Nixon thing, because it
was Hillary who was a junior staffer on the Watergate
investigation when she was right out of college and law school.
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And uh, you know, I think she learned a thing
or two about the effectiveness of dirty tricks and how
to avoid the precipice that Nixon fell over and getting caught,
in other words, how to do a dirty trick without
getting caught and for the longest period of time you know,
she she didn't get caught. And the only reason we
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really know about you know, her scheme, her plan inventing
the Russia hopes approving it that was pitched to her
by her her confederates in her campaign, is because Brennan
made the mistake, I guess of putting it in writing.
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And John Radcliffe has discovered Brennan's hand written notes memorializing
that Oval Office meeting with Obama and Biden and Comey
was there, and Clapper was there, and Loretta Lynch, who
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was then the Attorney General, in which you know, Brennan
disclosed that, you know, Hillary's come up with the Russia hoax,
this smear of Donald Trump, and they knew that it
was completely phony. Did Obama's President of the United States
come forward and say, look, we've discovered this. It's wrong,
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it's unethical. You know, it may be illegal. Now he
kept quiet about it and quiet to this day. Same
thing with Joe Biden. He never disclosed it and they knew.
And you know, Hillary Clinton became very adept at things
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like that, and her track record is demonstrative of it.
Let's go to our next call. Greg joins us from
West Virginia Hi, Greg, how are you?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Hey? Greg? It's Greg.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Hey. So with Tomy Clapper, Brennan and the Clinton campaign
and I'm sure a lot of others, these people weren't
working separately.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Correct, that's correct. They seem to be working together in
a conspiracy, if you will.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Right, So, where does the RICO charge comn.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, it's interesting you bring that up.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
RICO is basically, it's a federal crime. It usually targets
organized criminal activity, and you have to prove a pattern
of racketeering activity and enterprise under the federal statute. And
you know, normally it's used to go after things like
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you know, murder, kid napping, gambling, arson, blackmail, bribery, drug trafficking.
You know, look what we learned in the p Diddy
Sean Combe's case, in which Comey's daughter, by the way,
was one of the lead prosecutors, and they failed n RICO.
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Why did they fail because it's exceedingly difficult to prove
a racketeering case in sort of non mafia organized crime cases.
It's so complex. You have to prove all these predicate
crimes and then you have to prove that it was
an ongoing criminal enterprise and sures really struggle wrapping their
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heads around it. You know, if it's John Gotti or
something like that, yeah, they get it. But when it's
not you know, mafia figures and organis crime, Yeah, they
have a tendency now to really comprehend or understand the
complexities of racketeering. So while it technically would qualify, and
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it's been used in political corruption cases in the past,
normally those cases dealt with things like, you know, politicians
on the take, bribery and so forth. So you know,
I suppose it's an option, It's not one that I
would recommend just by virtue if it's poor historical record.
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Let's go to our next caller. Will joins Us from Florida. Hey, well,
do you have a question or a comment?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, and thank you for taking the call. And I
was thrilled to hear that you're filling up for Sean.
I get to hear you for three hours, get into
your legal mind. But I hear everybody talking about call
me Clapper, Brennan and Hillary? Why can and they indict Hillary?
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I mean there's no pardons on her?
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Is there a statue on her?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, so you're you're going well past the normal statute
limitations because her role in it was back in twenty
and sixteen when she came up with a plan and
you know, her campaign financed it along with Democrats and
so forth. Her role was key. Obviously, she you know,
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was the instigator of the Russia hoax. I agree that
she should be interviewed, and you know that puts her
in jeopardy.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Why, okay, why wouldn't they Why wouldn't they Why.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Wouldn't they interview No, I think they should interview her.
And here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Do you think that they would?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, I think they would.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Do you think they will?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah? I do?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Really?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, He's here's the thing. If she lies in the
interview about what she did, especially in the face of
Brennan's now newly discovered handwritten notes, that it was all
her idea to smear Trump, and if she lies about that,
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she'd be charged with false statements in perjury. So she
that would therefore put her in legal jeopardy on that
basis alone. I would interview her if I were the FBI,
and I'd want to know who, among the people involved
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in your campaign was involved in providing the phony information
to the Igor Denchenko, who gave it to Christopher Steele
and who put it in the DOSSI and did you
know about that? And did you approve the payments that
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were funneled through a law firm by the name of
Perkins Cooeye that then paid Christopher Steele for the phony
anti Trump dossier? What did you know about it? And
obviously I would ask her did you approve the plan
pitched by your team on the campaign to frame Donald Trump?
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And you know, again, if she lies about any of
those things, she's in legal jeopardy. So I absolutely would
sit her down for an interview. Now, she would go
to court and fight tooth and nail against an interviewer
a deposition, But I don't, frankly, think she has a
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leg to stand on to prevent an interview pursuant to
a subpoena or whatever it takes. We're gonna pause and
take a break. We have more callers standing by. Our
number is one eight hundred and nine four one seventy
three twenty six. Give us a call again. The number
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is one eight hundred and nine four one. Sean. We'll
be right back and welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
Just a minute left. I'm Greg Jared joining us now
from Louisiana. Is Rick. Hey, Rick, do you have a
question or a comment?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yeah, sure do, Greg. I was really wanting to go
back to the lawyer that live about the carter Page
situation that actually got.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Them in to the Trump campaign from the beginning. From
my knowledge, as far as I know, he only got
a slap on the wrist. Yeah, just barred for such
a series. But they could re review that any kind
of weave.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah. His name is Kevin klein Smith. The case has
been resolved. He got probation. James bos the judge gave
him a Freebieklinesmith altered a document that said carter Page
was not a source for another US intelligence agency, when
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in fact he was. He added the word not so
basically falsified documents, and he got off pretty easy. I
doubt it could be revisited. Great question though, And that's
it for the Sean Hannity Shawn. Greg jareded it's been
a pleasure to be here yesterday and today. I hope
you have a great Thursday. Bye bye.