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December 12, 2025 27 mins

In this episode of the Sean Hannity Show, Sean delves into the current economic climate, highlighting frustrations with the Democrats' narrative on affordability while critiquing their impact on the economy. He discusses the effects of energy policies and inflation, pointing out the significant rise in gas and grocery prices and the challenges that families face. Guests Tim Stewart, Daniel Turner, and Faith Burns join Sean to explore the success of recent energy policies and their long-term benefits for American households. Tune in for a comprehensive analysis of how political decisions shape your economic reality!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our two Sean Hannity show told free it is eight
hundred and nine point one Sean, if you want to
be a part of the program. It is frustrating to
me in terms of, you know, the Democrats trying to
push this narrative of vote affordability when they made everything

(00:20):
worse in terms of the economy. But you know, that's
who they are, that's what they do. And of course
the ultimate goals to persuade you to rely on them,
depend on them for every want, need, desire you have
in life. They will take away all of your fears,
all of your anxiety, the stress of life to go out,

(00:41):
work hard, dig deep, produce on your own. And it
gets frustrating. And then the big lie is that, you know,
Biden said earlier this week, which is unbelievable, that we
lowered the price of everything. No, but if you paid
for gas, you saw how high gas prices went. You

(01:03):
saw how inflation went to nine plus percent. Uh, you know,
decades high numbers. Home prices you know, went up a
whopping thirty eight percent. We have a home crisis affordability
issue in large part because of the unvetted illegals that
came into the country and they were competing for you know, apartments,

(01:27):
and in terms of you know, demand increased significantly and
as a result, that raised prices. You know, supply and
demand crisscross and that dictates the price, and grocery prices
went through the roof.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
The President addressed this, he said, I inherited the mess
from the Biden administration. He's right, the highest gas prices
in our country ever that we've ever seen. And he's right,
he said, affordability thirteen months ago was an unmitigated disaster,
and now things are coming down. Prices are coming down,
energy prices, oil prices, gas prices the lowest in five years,

(02:05):
inflation the lowest in five years. And the stock market,
for those of you that use that as a barometer, okay,
it hit an all time record high again yesterday, I
think like the forty fifth record high under Donald Trump.
And he's asking, when am I going to get credit
for anything? No inflation. The greatest economy now is emerging,

(02:27):
and when you factor in all that we have talked
about on this program, and a lot of that has
to do with trillions of dollars in manufacturing, which also
is good for national security because we will produce our
own pharmaceuticals, will produce our own semiconductor chips. We're bringing
back automobile manufacturing. And the President has opened up energy

(02:50):
dominant policies, which we already see are seeing an impact
on because of the low price of energy in the country.
That's the lifeblood of the world's economy. It's incredible, and
you know, the President saying when will people understand what
is happening. I think people will begin to see it
in the new year. And while Scott Bessen, the Treasury Secretary,

(03:12):
thinks that this is, you know, probably going to hit
or infuse the bloodstream of our economy sometime by the
end of the first quarter of next year, I think
it's probably the end of the second quarter if what
Reagan and Trump did in their respective times in office
previously are any indication. And I think that it's just

(03:32):
frustrating because if you improve the economy by twenty percent,
and the president before you reduce the economy and growth, etc.
By forty six percent, it's it's hard to get credit
when people are still underwater from where they initially were,
and that gets frustrating for people. And I totally understand it. Anyway,

(03:52):
here is the Energy Secretary Chris Wright talking about the
success of the president's energy policies in the first ten months.
Pay attention to this because this is the lifeblood of
the world's economy. This is what every single family is
impacted by.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
The biggest determinant of the price of energy is politicians,
political leaders and policies. That's what drives energy prices. Under
your leadership, what we've seen in the United States is
just a steady drop in the price of gasoline, a
huge consumer costs for Americans, as you mentioned early on,

(04:30):
well below three dollars a gallon right now and trending downwards.
There are a number of stations in the heartland of
America with dollars ninety nine signs flying two day. That's
simply impossible without the leadership and changes you've brought.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Of course, you can go to California, where the average
price of gasoline is between four point fifty and five
dollars a gallon two day in California. That's just bad
political leaders there and bad Paul Season. California taxes and
taxes taxes they.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Charging gasoline are just insane.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Terrible, And electricity prices is a very parallel story, but
it's a it's a bigger moving ship, so the changes
are a little bit slower. But Americans are outraged at,
you know, a roughly thirty percent rise in the average
price of electricity across this country. But everything we are
doing together is going to reverse that, not just stop

(05:27):
the rises, but start a downward trajectory and electricity prices.
We're going to stop closing power plants. We've already done that,
of course, stop closing the coal power plants and natural
gas plants that were shut down. You've got over thirty
gigawatts of generators just sitting there today not allowed to run.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Of course, we're fixing that immediately.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
All right. So gas prices now plunge to no multi
year low, and they are trending lower. Here to discuss
all of this, Tim Stewart. He's the president of the
US Petroleum and Gas Group. Dannuel Turner is the founder
executive director of Power of the Future, a national nonprofit organization.
They advocate for American energy jobs. Those are high paying

(06:10):
career jobs. Faith Burns is a fellow for energy policy
at Americans for Prosperity and at the federal level. She
served as a Legislative Council on a US Senate staff
handling of energy and environmental issues. Welcome all three of you.
Let me say, Daniel, I'll start with you. I mean,

(06:32):
this is a dramatic This will have a dramatic impact
long term on the economy. I think people do feel
it in the short term, unless you live in California
where you're still paying four dollars plus at gallina gasoline.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, oh absolutely, and seawan in addition to run and
power the future. I have a sheep and cattle farm
in Shenandoah, Virginia, and so one of the things that
people complain about are the price of beef, for example,
And I tell people all the time, you know, the
beef you're eating today on Ada ridge in America is
four years old, and that beef for that cow was
fattened on grain that was harvested at seven dollars a

(07:07):
gallon diesel into the Biden administration, so it took four
years for beef prices to actually be felt. Now gas
is getting cheap, diesel is getting cheap, and so you
will see food prices come down, but it takes a
little while for that to be felt in the market.
And that's what happens when you tinker with energy outside
of your wheelhouse. And that's what the Biden administration did,

(07:28):
and President Trump is catching the blame for it.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, good point. Let's get your take, Tim Stewart.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Five gris Daniel. You know, Sean, compared to two thousand
and eight, that percentage of household costs on energy is
decreased by ten percent. That's because of the shale revolution.
What that's done is overall, it saved American families I
think probably twenty five dollars a year for family at
four in energy costs that had been limited a reduced
over time, again thanks to the shale revolution. But as

(07:59):
you know, four years ago, go like Dan. You know,
I come from a ranching family as well. Four years
ago my brothers were paying seven and eight dollars per
gallon per diesel based on COVID and then the Biden
administration horrible energy policies that constrained the refining and the
production and the use of fossil fuels. We're finally catching

(08:20):
up to that. But he's exactly right. We're paying the
price now, American shilpaining the price now of bad ideas
and decisions were made four years ago.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know, and faith when you really look at it,
I mean, people don't fully understand the impact on their lives.
That means it costs less to heat and cool your
home in the winter in summertime. That means that when
you get on a commercial airliner and they're paying less
per gallon a lot less per gallon for jet fuel.

(08:51):
That means airlines can lower prices and offer discount prices.
That means less money for you to get back and
forth to work if you're community every day. So I
mean it impacts every aspect of our life. That also means,
you know, whatever you're paying in your house, you know,
for gas oil, whatever you happen to use, that is
going to be like a massive tax cut for most families.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
You're exactly right, and I would echo what the two
gentlemen have said before me, and I would always also
point to what you had indicated previously that President Trump
had a mess to dig out from, and we don't
need to underestimate the gravity of the mess he had
to dig out from. And from day one, his policies
have been to unleash domestic energy production, and that's what

(09:37):
has been occurring every day since his administration has been
in office.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh, I agree with all of that. Look, you're advocating
for American energy jobs. We had a program on this.
We did something when we had the last energy boom
during the last Trump administration, is we partnered with energy
companies in North Dakota, in Oklahoma, in Texas, and we

(10:02):
would put out there that the jobs that were available
for people if they were willing to, you know, move
and get up and change their lives a little bit
because they want an opportunity. But at that time, they
were paying people that they would train to be truck
drivers or to work in the oil fields. You know,
they start them close to one hundred grand a year

(10:23):
while they were training them. All the overtime they can
handle often housing them. And it helped people go from
thirty forty thousand dollars a year dead end jobs where
they couldn't make ends meet into a point where they
could buy their own home and get a nice pickup
truck or whatever they wanted to drive, and it would
transform their lives. Tim, let me get your thoughts on it.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
Yeah, the USO and the industry supports three point six
million jobs. It's almost a half a trillion dollars in
GDP to the economy. And you're exactly right.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
This is this is not.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
This is These are jobs that cut all across the
education spectrum and all across socio economic value, the socio
economic families, and frankly in rural communities. You know, I
spent let's spend my weekends. I'm from Utah. Originally there's
a little town called Richmond, Utah, populations three thousand, and

(11:16):
I was talking to somebody. I asked what they were doing,
and he says, well, I work for the Island gas industry.
And he added little that little town in Richmond, Utah
runs a two hundred and fifty million dollar a year
business in Texas that he manages out of Utah, and
that what that business is is in the construction industry,
building pipelines and fences and roads and sheds for the
Island gas industry. It's astounding the supply chain, in the

(11:39):
reach of the of the employment capacity of our industry
all across the country, in the states and in communities
of different sizes. It's something that we're really really proud.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Of now that the President Daniel has has put these
jobs online gotten these policies in place. He's basically said
that companies that means oil, gas, coal to go, you're
not being regulated and you don't have the you know,
the the high heel of government on your neck preventing

(12:13):
you from growth. What does that mean for job creation
for Americans? Again going back to, you know, partnering with
energy companies around the country and high paying career jobs
that they will train you in. And that was transforming
lives at the time, and I'm hoping that we might
be able to do it again.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Absolutely, And it shows the power of freedom and free markets.
And President Trump believes in that. It was not very
long ago that you had Democrats like Elizabeth Warren and
Bernie Sanders hauling all the oil and gas executives before them,
screaming at them about price gouging and profiteering and greed. Suddenly,
no one's greedy anymore, right, The oil and gas industry

(12:54):
is now a bunch of devout Christians all of a sudden. Well, no,
nothing has changed, right. What's changes that there isn't It
is allowing freedom to operate. And when you allow freedom
to operate in free markets, you get more of a
product at a lower price point for a greater number
of people, and all those accusations of greed, all that
was was deflecting for the fact that Biden's policies were

(13:16):
a boot on the neck of the Indiator disaster.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Right, Yeah, and everybody suffered. Last word, faith Burns will
give it to you.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:25):
Well, first of all, everybody doesn't need a PhD. There
is still a place in the American economy for folks,
men and women to go out and work with their
hands and work hard.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
And make a decent living. And President Trump is providing
the opportunity for folks to do that.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
All right, Daniel Turner, Faith Burns, and Tim Stewart, thank
you all for being with us. We'll talk more on
this on the other side. We'll get to more of
your calls this Friday eight hundred. You know, I'm going
to tell you some things that really really pissed me
off of us. I'm in a bad mood today in
case I could hardly tell Yeah, what do you mean
you could hardly? What does that mean? You always say
I like when you're mad. I like when you're pissed off,

(14:03):
you do a better show. It's you pissed off. Good
pissed off last segment too. I'm gonna tell you why,
because I'm sick and tired. You know, gas prices were
nearly five freaking dollars a gallon, and nobody even notices.
Oh geez, But it's below two dollars, you know in
some cases, in some states, it's below two dollars a
gallon of gasoline in freaking Colorado, who whatever expect Colorado?

(14:27):
You know it's below if no, the dollar sixty nine
a gallon is low in some places, you know. But
now we have the average price of gas. He used
to be under Biden, over four bucks a gallon. Now
it's below three dollars a gallon. That is a massive,
massive drop. That's a massive tax cuts for people. That's

(14:48):
thirty seven states, and it's below two dollars and seventy
five cents a gallon in twenty two states, and below
two hundred two dollars and fifty cents a gallon in
five states, and below two dollars a gallon in four states. Thanks,
the only thing, and I'm paying next to nothing. I
have one gas powered vehicle, and I have a Tesla.

(15:10):
And for a while I thought, oh, this is an
added benefit although you still use energy to power up
your tesla.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
Well, yeah, because we need fossil fuels to fuel the electric,
which most of our go green folks out there don't
actually understand. You think you're going electric, lovely, good for you,
plug in all you like, but at the end of
the day, it's still fossil fuels that are powering your
electric all right.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
So I saved one cut for you just because I
wanted you to be in as foul and I shouldn't
be this way we're heading into the holidays, but for
you to be in a foul mood too. It's Gavin
Newsome talking about trans and I am telling you, I
promise you if he does become the Democratic nominee in

(15:54):
twenty twenty eight, he's going to regret saying this.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Contradictions that I think I can explain. Perhaps evolutions we
didn't get into transports. That's an issue no one wants
to hear about because eighty percent of the people listening
disagree with my position on this. But it comes from
my heart, not just my head. It wasn't a political evolution.
Its being that I don't think it's fair. I want

(16:19):
to see trans kids. I have a trans god son.
There's no governance sign more pro trans legislation than I have,
and no one has been a stronger advocate for the
LGBT into meter. But you have to accommodate the reality
of those whose rights are being taken away as we
advance the rights of the trans community in terms of
the fairness of athletic competition.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Okay, if he wants to run on that in a
national election, let him run on it.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
See.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think right now he's in at the point where
he wants this nomination so bad he will say anything
to get it, and he knows that if he wants
to get it, he has to go hardcore leftist radical
extremists to satiate the insanity of the base of the

(17:06):
Democratic Party.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (17:08):
Well, I mean I think the larger picture, and you're
saying it in a roundabout way because you're polite. I'm not.
I can't stand him. I don't like anything about him
is that he doesn't have any strong positions. Oh I
hate him absolutely. Oh yeah, I got a hate list.
Absolutely all of us have fallen short, you know, and
no exception.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Talked that length on this program. How you've become a Christian.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
First of all, I did not become a Christian. I
have always been a Catholic. Then I went non denominational.
Now I'm a Catholic.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Your faith, When did you go back to being a
Catholic again?

Speaker 8 (17:43):
About four years?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Ex news long, about four years.

Speaker 8 (17:47):
I just like the Mass.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I like the structure.

Speaker 8 (17:50):
I'm a big fan, still super close to Pastor Tim,
love him, love his church.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
But I loved the structure. That's what it was.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
Yeah, listen, I didn't like you know, it didn't blend. No,
I decided I wanted to be a Catholic again. That's
what I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
I like it, big fan.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Of can't stand the Pope. I know, I do love
I'm a Catholic, but I can't stand the Pope. I can't.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
I bash him every day as much as I can
can't stand them the bishops do. They can all go
fly a kite.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Listen. The Mass to me is beautiful, it really exactly.
It is okay and communion. When you talk about you know,
the Last Supper and Jesus, you know, broke the bread,
blessed it gave thanks. You know, take this all of
you and eat from it. This is my body which
will be given up for you. And after supper he

(18:39):
took the cup again. He gave thanks, some praise. He
gave the cup to his disciples, and he said, take
this all of you, and drink from it. This is
the cup of my blood, the new and everlasting Covenant,
and it will be shed for you and for all
men for the forgiveness of sins. That part is beautiful.
What bothers me about the Catholic Church is that it

(19:02):
has institutionalized and never dealt with the corruption. It was
on a great parish level, the diocese level. The priest knew,
bishops knew, cardinals knew, Rome knew, and they never did
anything about it, and they never ended it. And I

(19:23):
take issue with the idea of that priests can't be married.
And that may sound hannay, you're gone liberal on us.
No I haven't, because eleven of the twelve apostles that
Jesus chose ended up being married. Eleven of the twelve.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
I'm not saying that this is a perfect, perfect, you know,
religion by any means, but when it comes.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
To it, first eleven hundred years of that church, maybe
twelve hundred, my math is offul little. They allowed priests
to marry and the only reason they changed it was
financial for fear of losing property in the case of
a pri getting divorced. Am I factually accurate or not

(20:03):
you are.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
I don't have anything to say as far as what
has happened in the history of Catholicism or what has
happened with the church. The Church has a history of pedophilia,
but there are plenty of other religions that do as well.
The problem is that the Catholic Church and the people
that run the Catholic Church, it's a corporation. They have charities,
they're stiphoning money, they're allocating money to the things that

(20:27):
they're both. You know, their parishioners do not believe in
including me. But I go to a certain parish here.
I really like the way they run their church. I
like what they do in their community. They're conservative, they're
not liberal, and we believe in the Bible. We follow
the Bible, we read the Bible, we have the Gospel.
It's a very nice service, and they are not beholden

(20:48):
to the liberal ideology of Pope Leo and the bishops,
which I love.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right. Now, now that we got Linda's religious issues resolved,
let's get to our busy phones A nine bowl one.
Shawn is on number. If you want to be a
part of the program. Chris in South Carolina? What's up, Chris?
How are you glad you called Sar?

Speaker 10 (21:08):
I'm doing pretty good. First, I'm calling Aaron amazing everything
that you're doing.

Speaker 11 (21:14):
But I just want to get right to the topic
about the trans issues.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Do you agree with Gavin Newsom partly?

Speaker 11 (21:21):
Partly?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Partly? You partly agree with them? Okay?

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Explain the questions that I have is why every team
has equipment managers or support staff, the water boys, the
towel boys, the ball boys, the bat boys, the kids
that sit on the side of the tennis matches that

(21:47):
catch the balls. Why can the trans people not be
allowed to be quote unquote on the team, but only
relegated to those positions.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I don't even want to discriminate in any way in
terms of if people are trends. I think I think
Caitlyn Jenner labeled this best when she said, I don't
really care what somebody's testosterone levels are. When I care
when it's puberty and it impacts and dramatically changes their

(22:25):
their body, and if they are biological men they are
by definition physically stronger than women, and she rightly identifies it.
Do you realize she can drive the ball nearly three
hundred yards? I mean, she's that great an athlete as
Bruce Jenner when he when Bruce Jenner won the decathlon.

(22:46):
What an incredible athlete you must be to achieve that.
It's it's it's remarkable. And she even said to me,
I don't know if it was public or private, but
she could play all these golf tournaments that she wanted,
and she'd win every single one of them because she
can drive the ball that much further than any opponent
and happens to be a great athlete. But she says

(23:07):
it would be unfair. And the question here is is
if somebody in a free society chooses to identify as
quote trans that's up to them. You cannot have biological
men competing in women's sports, and it has been shown

(23:30):
that physically they dominate, and expect that to be considered
fair because it's not. There are biological differences between men
and women. That is not to suggest that men are
better than women. That is not to be in any
way discriminatory. However, there's certain biological realities that I think

(23:53):
we have to face. Is that fair?

Speaker 9 (23:55):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (23:55):
Yes, And even to that point, it's those water boys,
those towel boys, the hydration technicians are not playable athletes.

Speaker 11 (24:11):
They're on the team.

Speaker 10 (24:12):
You can dress up just like everybody else, but you're
just not allowed to be on the field in the
middle of the game.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Listen, let me make it even more simple. I don't
think biological men should be playing in women's sports, would
be in women's locker rooms, I don't. I don't agree
with Kamala Harris's position that taxpayer dollars ought to be
used to pay for illegal immigrants and surgery or convicts.

(24:41):
I don't believe with Tim Walls that trans people, you know,
and the illegal immigrant you know. I don't believe we
should be putting tampons and boys' bathrooms in Minnesota. But anyway,
I appreciate the call, quick break, right back. More of
your calls this Friday, eight hundred and nine four one
sewn our number if you want to be a part
of the program.

Speaker 12 (25:01):
As we continue, the final hour of the Sean Hannity
Show was up next. Hang on for Shawn's conservative solutions.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
All right, let's get back to our busy phones eight
hundred and nine four one sean, if you want to
join us Bill in my free state of Florida. What's up, Bill?
How are you good, sir?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
How are you doing? Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Happy Friday, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I was gonna call and try to make a point
and then a suggestion. I'm gonna go to the suggestion. First,
these blue ridden cities that don't want Trump's health, you
know that's just full of crime, full of crime, instead
of forcing themselves in there and the rest of the
population in that city because of the liberal media doesn't

(25:55):
really know what's going on. Why can't they erect billboards
throughout the city saying welcome to the like Chicago, Welcome
to the Hunger Games. In Chicago twenty twenty five, murder
rate was this, shootings were this, this, this, And then
have a count up for twenty twenty six showing them
this is what you're continuing to get into. And then

(26:18):
everybody reads a billboard. The media can't hide it.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Well, you want to put up a billboard as saying.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
What welcome to the Hunger Games. Current crime rate is this?
And however they want to do it break it down
so or like the lottery. You know, the Mega million
is this much now. So shootings are at three hundred
and fifty five to date, murders are seventy five murders.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Listen. I love the idea. It's sort of like the
debt clock that we had for so long. By the way,
our debt is going way down. Deficits going way down
under Donald Trump. He doesn't get credit for that either.
I think everybody in the country kind of knows if
you're on the South side of Chicago or in Chicago
in general, that the odds are significantly higher that you

(27:05):
may be a victim of crime. My advice to people is,
don't live in high crime areas. It's not good for
your health. And you know, you have to assess what
your own You have to make an assessment of what
your threat tolerance is. That's what I would say to people.
And in many of those very same areas, you can't
protect yourself. It's unreal. Appreciate the call, sir, God bless

(27:28):
you have a great weekend. Eight hundred and ninety four
one shown is on number. If you want to be
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

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