May 12, 2025 • 32 mins
Sean is traveling with President Trump to the Middle East and Rose Tennent is at the helm of 'Hannity' and sits down with Will Graham; the grandson of legendary pastor Billy Graham. Will sits down to talk with Rose about the youth movement turning to God.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. You're right, I'm not Sean.
I'm Rose and I'm so privileged to be here today
and Friday. By the way, Sean is actually traveling with
the President. He's got his whole Middle East tour going
on and he's going to have a special edition live
from the Middle East on his TV show. So safe
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travels to Sean and the President, and I wish them
really well. And how exciting that Sean gets to be
a part of that, which means how exciting I get
to be a part of the Sean Handity Show today.
So if you want to call in, I'm happy to
talk to you. The phone number I'll be giving that
in just a second. But I do want to talk
about a few things first, and I want to talk
about what we're going to talk about more later on
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in the show, because we have Corey Lewandowski coming on
to talk about what happened at the facility in New
Jersey and what's going to happen as a result. That's
one of the big questions I have, and we'll get
to all of that. But when we think back about
what happened on Friday, and we watched as the Democrats
once again gave priority over US citizens to illegal immigrants
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when they stormed that ice facility in New Jersey. And
it all got to me to thinking about the constitutional
limits of government. And you know what, and not only that,
but how our representatives don't seem to take their charge
as seriously and even respectfully as they were meant to.
And I'm so disappointed that some of our representatives today
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seem to believe that they are above the law. They're
well and power and far beyond what the founders ever intended.
And a lot of times in my monologues you would
hear me say, you know, the faith of our founding fathers,
and how important that was to establishing this country. And
I do believe that's true, and their faith was significant.
But guess what, not all of them were strong, faithful men.
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They didn't have to be, because they understood one thing
that man had a since nature, and they were cautious
about concentrating too much power in the hands of any
one person or group because man has a sinful nature.
They all agreed on that, whether they were men of
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faith or not. And it was what they believed about
this human nature that honestly really shaped how they believed
government should work, especially when it comes to protecting individual
freedom preventing tyranny. It was James Madison who asked in
the Federalist Papers, and it was number fifty one, what
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is government itself? But the greatest of all reflections on
human nature? And he also said in fifty one that
if men were angels, no government would be necessary. So
the idea was to design a structure that prevented any
one person or group from becoming too powerful, because we
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well know that men are not angels. And if you
look at Federalist Papers number one, and a lot of
people look at that first paper as just an introduction
to the rest of the Federalist papers. But by calling
it just an introduction, we're not doing it justice, because
in truth, it's a very powerful call to action. It's
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an appeal from Alexander Hamilton to the people of the
United States to completely rethink how government should be. And
he made it clear that it wasn't just a small
decision because of the very future and survival of this
United States was at stake. The decisions for our nation's
future were placed in the hands of the people. A
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government by the people and if you think about it too.
Years later, at another really pivotal point in America's history,
Abraham Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address kind of drew on
that same concept when he said that this nation under
God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that
government of the people, by the people, for the people
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shall not perish from the earth. So that was in
eighteen sixty three. That was seventy five years later. It
was still a novel idea, but still one that was
to be protected and remembered. And Abraham Lincoln knew that
we still need to talk about this, that the power
belongs to the people. And we go back to Madison's time.
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What made the moment so historic was that it wasn't
kings or generals or even elites deciding our future. It
was everyday citizens. The fate of the country depended on
their choice. That kind of trust in the people was
very rare. I mean, not only in the world at
that time, but if you look back in all of history,
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I mean, that was something that was just not happening,
giving the people the power. But it does talk or
speak to how deeply Hamilton believed in the American experiment.
He imagined a great future for America. He even called
it the beginning of an empire, but not in the
way that we think of empires, not in a sense
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of conquest, but just to show how important and influential
this nation could become if it could be held together
under this new constitution. So at the time, the United
States was still fragile and it was far from powerful.
But Hamilton believed that building a government based on the
will of the people was not only bold, but it
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could change the course of history. And guess what, he
was right. This country was founded on the idea that
man was created by God to be free, and the
only way, the only way to establish and maintain that
freedom was to reduce the size of government. And if
you think about it, in our founder's case, it was
a king that they were trying to get out from under,
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a very oppressive, imposing, freedom restricting king. I mean, at
that time, it was the king's way or no way.
So they understood all of this. So when we look
back on where we see our leadership headed, it's just
not what we saw on Friday. It's not what we've
been seeing in DC over the years. We see evidence
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of elitism and central power from all of those people
in Washington, DC, most of them. Anyway, We've been seeing
it for a really long time now, and you know what,
our concern is deep, but not only that. We should
have a concern that's historically resonent, because it goes to
the very heart of what the Federalist papers authors warned
us of. They warned us of the dangers of concentrating
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power into the hands of one person or one group, right,
and the erosion of checks and balances. They were really
aware of the human tendencies toward overreach. Men are not angels.
And by the way, when they designed a system of
government where each branch would act as a check on
the others, that was a novel idea too. Representatives were
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meant to be servants of the people, not rulers above
the law. We've come a really long way, haven't we,
Because our representatives most definitely believe themselves to be above
the law in most cases. And I truly believe that
many of them consider to be us to be their
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servants rather than they ours. You know, they do. You
can see it every day the elected officials are acting,
you know, laterally when they flout legal boundaries or the
proper process of oversight. Even if they have good intentions,
they are losing our trust and they're also challenging the
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constitutional limits that were so very carefully established. So now
this behavior that we're witnessing, whether we see it as
bold advocacy or reckless overreach, you know where I fall
on that one. But it does an important question, doesn't it.
It's about how authority is exercised today and whether it's
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consistent with the constitutional framework that was later by our
founding fathers. And we're going to talk about this a
little later in the show too, because one of the
things that I think about a lot is how the
state of our nation is really showing scars, scars because
of years of neglect. You know, there's people we have
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been charged and so has our representatives with the preservation
and the protection of our constitution. And guess what those representatives,
in many cases have failed us. There are so many
in DC still, I mean, we're looking good in some ways. Yeah,
we have a great president, but still you can see it.
There's so many in DC who seem to care more
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about their status, their payoffs, their grand standing than they
care about representing us or or safeguarding our constitution, because
what are they doing about the safety of those that
they're supposed to represent when they put others and their
welfare over our welfare. You know what, Our government has
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become an industry, and just like with any other industry,
it has its own special interests and their desire for growth.
They're always looking for ways to increase the power and
their influence. But I'll tell you something, Unlike other industries
in the private sector, the government doesn't produce wealth, so
it has to take wealth by force, and it's through taxes, regulations,
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redistribution of wealth, and all of that. Everything that they
do because they want that power and influence. They do
it with a purpose of political outcome. That's that's their purpose,
a political outcome, when in fact they should be doing
it with the purpose of benefiting others, a beneficial economic outcome.
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You know what. That's why they hate Doche, That's why
they hate everything that Trump is doing, because what he's
doing is shrinking government. What he's doing is taking away
that power and influence where it is overreaching and not
what it was meant to be. The organizing principles of
our constitutional republic, our faith, family, and country, and it
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should be in that order, faith, family, and country. And
the only thing that stands in the way of the
government becoming those things, the government becoming the organizing principle
of our society and our culture even is the Constitution.
That constitution stands in the way of just about every
progressive agenda item. And that's why they hate it. That's
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why they look every day for every way possible to
get around it. I don't you know, I just I
wonder sometimes what kind of place this would be, this
America if the spirit of our forefathers, everything that we've
just talked about, was completely extinguished, completely extinguished, Because you know,
that's kind of a goal of theirs. Those men and
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women that forged this republic. They did it by making
great sacrifices. They did it by taking huge risk. And
get what, guess what, America is great because of it.
It can still be great as long as we remain free.
And we have to remember what it was that made
this country great in the first place. It's people like you,
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people with a vision, a vision for freedom, a vision
for liberty. Oh yeah, and guess what a vision for
safe haven for its citizens. It's like the left always
wants to stamp out anything, any opposition. They want a
country with a singular mindset. You can see it, can't you.
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Every day that singular mindset. They want you all to
fall in line to that. With that, and there's certain
ideas that they don't like. They hate Americanism, and you
can see it as they embrace things like gobels, global
citizenship and all the crazy stuff that's out there. That's
how much they hate America. They don't even like us.
They would prefer global citizenship than a citizenship here in
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this great country. And even today, a lot of the
questions that were raised in those federalist papers, especially number one,
like how much power the government should have and how
it should serve the people. You know, those things are
still not only debated, but they're challenged daily. The issues
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at the heart of our democracy remain just as important
now as they were back then. And what we continue
to witness from democrats, particularly the progressives, they're not isolated incidents.
You know that it's something that reflects a larger trend
in government, a trend that Madison Hamilton and the others
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warned us of, and we need to take heed. We
really do stay with me. These three going to talk
about a lot of things. We're going to talk to
Will Graham, the grandson of Billy Graham. We're also talking
to Gordon Chang. I love Gordon Chang. He is so
on top of everything that's happening with the relationship between China,
so of course we have an opportunity to discuss with
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him what just went down over the weekend in Switzerland.
That's a Biggie and one War two Corey Lewandowski. We're
going to get into the weeds here over what happened
on Friday with those representatives and what's going to be
done about their behavior. All of that on The Sean
Hannity Show with Me Rose today, So don't go too
far away. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show, where
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the phone number is eight hundred nine four to one,
Sean eight hundred nine Tour one Shawn eight hundred ninet
four one seven three to six. I hope everyone had
a great Mother's Day, Linda. I wanted to ask you
about your Mother's Day because you're like a mother to
like a million people. Now, how was it, I.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Mean, listen, it was amazing. My listen.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I have to say, I think one of the funniest
moments of all of Mother's Day.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
First of all to my husband Anthony, because he crushed it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And I know he tries so hard to always do
the right thing, and we had a house full of people.
But the thing that I love more than than anything
as far as like food, drink skull is coffee.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Coffee is my life.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And we get up Mother's Day morning, we have a
lovely coffee.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Machine, and we are out of beans. And I came
downstairs and I'm like, where's the coffee? It's going on
with the with the coffee and so of old days
and I have and he just looked at me. He's like,
oh my god. I said sorry. I was like, how
do we not have? I mean, I keep like such
an abundant amount of coffee in our house. What the
hell's the coffee?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It was so weird anyways, but he crushed it. The
kids were here, My parents were here, His parents were here.
It was very, very nice.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It was great. I'm so glad to hear all of that.
Did you get house yours? Yours? Here?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
We have a little little love. Are we allowed to
talk about our precious new edition?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yes? I would love to. I have a granddaughter now,
and this is so I can't People would say to me, Linda,
are you excited to become a grandmother. I'm like, yeah,
I guess. But I'll tell you what. The moment I
saw that beautiful little thing, I just I fell in
love in a way that I don't know that I've
ever been in love before. Really, it's quite different. And
people would try to tell you that, but you really
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don't know until you experience it. And I think about
her every Sometimes my husband and I will sit in
front of the you know when you have one of
those digital frames, and we just both sit there looking
at all the pictures of her. That's all we do.
Don't even talk.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
About she really is very very cute. Congratulations to your
son and his wife. It's amazing, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And I was very blessed to have, you know, one child.
It took seven years to have one. So I'm so
happy to be a mother in the first place, but
I'm even more thrilled to be a grandmother, of course,
a very young grandmother. Just for all of you out there,
just so you know, okay, we'll be back with We'll
be back with the grandson of Billy Graham will Graham
right after this, stay with me.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Get your dose of independence and liberty every weekday right
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Speaker 1 (16:09):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose.
Sean is actually traveling with the President on his Middle
East tour, and you'll be doing it. He'll be doing
live broadcasts on his TV show, so make sure you
check in for that. How lucky is he to do that?
That's such a blessing anyway, It's also a blessing for
me because I get to be here today in his place,
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and I'll also be here on Friday, so make sure
you join me on Friday as well. Right now, though,
we've got the grandson of legendary evangelist Billy Graham and
the son of Franklin Gram. Will Graham serves as executive
vice president with the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, and he
spent nearly two decades proclaiming the Gospel all around the world.
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And he just recently returned from Bolivia where more than
forty thousand people attended a one day event. They had
nearly eight thousand people respond to an ultra call to
make a decision for Christ. So Welcome to the show,
Will Graham. How are you?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Thank you rose great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it was really fun. I got to meet you
last week in Pittsburgh. I think it was your first
time visiting the city of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
It was of all the US cities, that's one city
that's kind of snuck past me somehow. I don't know how,
but I've gone to other places, going to the Pittsburgh Airport,
but never been to Pittsburgh. So it was great to
be there for the first time.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, it was great to have you here, It really was.
It was a great event.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's really impressive, Will, seventy five years and three generations
of Billy Graham's message of the good News. You must
be so proud of your heritage, And I was wondering
what it was that it did for you as a
child growing up knowing that your grandfather was Billy Graham,
your dad's Franklin Graham. Did you feel this like impressed
upon you? Did you feel that you had to follow
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in their footsteps? How did this all work out for you?
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Well? I was just born into it, so it was
always kind of for me. And when I look at
my grandfather Billy Graham. I know that he's famous. I
know he's well loved, and I'll say you, that's a
wonderful thing to have. A lot of people have relatives
that people don't like. But I was blessed to have
a grandfather that everybody loved and appreciated and respected and
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say with my father and so they're very much a
blessing in my life. And they've opened up so many
doors for me in my life, and I'm very grateful
for that. But at the same time, I realized, even
though my grandfather is a very spiritual man and he
found Christ, I had to find Christ. And so when
I was young, I put my faith in Jesus Christ
when I was about six years old and paved my
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life to Jesus. And then God's been using me to
preach the Gospel and other places, just like my grandfather
and my father. So it's a wonderful blessing. I will
say that.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh, I agree, You're very fortunate. And you know, there
seems to be one of the things I want to
talk you about. There seems to be a great number
of young people right now turning to God. I mean,
they're looking towards faith and We've been watching this happened
over the past couple of years, and it seems like
they're seeking a purpose and direction in their life. And
I think for these young people there's a desire to
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make a connection because, for Heaven's sake, since twenty twenty,
we've become so isolated, particularly the young, and there is
no one on one really like you and I have
experienced in a lifetime. So they have that desire for connection,
I guess. But it's an ever increasing isolating environment. So
what are you seeing right now with the youth.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Well, I've seen it. I'm sure there's a lot more
going on in high schools and things like that. I know,
like even my daughter, she's dating a boy and he
became a Christian his last year in high school. And
so these people that are coming from out of high
school going into college. There's God's really moving among colleges
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here in the United States. I mean, it started with
Asbury in twenty twenty three. That's where it really got
and then it just seems to die down then pop
up and their schools like Sanford, Ohio, State Auburn. Matter
of fact, the Auburn got in trouble to the coach Freeze.
They're get in trouble because he was baptizing football players.
And I don't know what's wrong with that. How do
you get in trouble for that? No one over those,
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but you know, Auburn's a wonderful school, a great school.
But they saw it at Auburn, they saw at the
University Kentucky. Some of these aren't even Christian schools. Most
of these aren't Christian schools. And that's what's really unique
about this. This is where just there's some Christians at
school praying that God would come to visit their school
and to do a mighty work. And God's been answering
those prayers, and it's still going on, and there are
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tens and tens of thousands of college kids coming to
know Christ all around our country. And it's just wonderful
to see this taking place.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, I remember you mentioned Ohio State University. I remember
that there were about sixty students that were baptized during
a service at the university and the football players were
the ones that were leading the event, and they saw
about it. Eight hundred students attend and the hundreds of
them for free bibles. And actually I think I read
somewhere that the Bibles are selling like at greater numbers
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than they ever have in history, and a lot of
people are giving the credit to these young people who
are purchasing them for the first time ever.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
You're exactly right. The Bible, it's been in it's always
been the world's greatest selling book ever in the history
of the world is the Bible. But what we've seen
was the decline in people buying Bibles until recently, and
now it's an upward trend of people buying Bibles. Bibles
are the number one seller and the world and it's
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an incredible book that changes lives, and we're seeing young
people gobble it up. And I think part of it
is because of the you know, they starve in for
truth and the world that preaches all this stuff that
claims to be true, but they know it's not, and
yet they find that in the Bible, this is truth,
this is real, This is how we can know God,
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and that God's not fake, that God is real, and
this is how we can have a personal relationship with Him.
So they're seeing truth and they're finding God at the
same time. And it's a breath of first air form.
So I think it's been a wonderful thing that's been
taking place across US campuses.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I agree. At your event, I met a young
gen z Or. His name was Avery, and he said
something that just really struck me. He said that today's
youth are the most interconnected, and yet they are the
most isolated. And they're isolated to a degree that you
and I and other generations were not. So this is
something quite new for this generation, and I think they're
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finally feeling that they want to be connected, not just
physically and human relationships, but even spiritually.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Well, you're exactly right. There's a great hunger and the
souls of men and women very young because they haven't
had that before. And a lot of these families that
they maybe come from great families, maybe they don't come
great families. That doesn't matter, but they're they're looking. They're
spiritually hungry. They're looking for real relationships and that's found
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in the Christian faith and finding God because he's our creator.
He's the one that made us, he's the one that
changes us. He's the one that gives this purpose and
meaning in life. And when you find other believers, they
help you along the way and encourage you along the way,
and when you stumble and fall in life, it's them.
They're going to come and help pick you up and
encourage you along the way and pray for you and
to keep you going. And so it's a wonderful body.
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The Christian life was never meant to be lived alone.
It was meant to be lived with a group of believers,
and so that's what they're finding, especially on college campuses.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I love that, I really do. You know, these young
people are facing so many challenges today, and as you
said too, they're looking for truth. And you know, so
many times you will hear someone say, well, this is
my truth. I'm sorry, there's like just one truth, Okay,
not yours and his and hers, but one truth. No
matter what we're talking about, what subject we're on, there
is one truth. There is truth, and truth is black
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and white. There's a black and white thing going on.
You're not gray shaded areas. But one of the things too,
about I wanted to ask you about was being the
grandson of Billy Graham. How much has that influenced you
and affected you even when you were a young person.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Well, I think it's always had a huge influence on me.
Whether I realized it or not, especially when you're young.
I mean, when I'm talking about young, I'm not five
years old. That's probably the first time I remembered. My
teacher came up to me, a wonderful lady. She put
her hands on my bank, said this is Billy Graham's grandson.
And I'm thinking to myself, how does she know who
my granddady is? You know, I've I never brought him
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for you know, show and tale. I never I mean,
I didn't know my granddaddy was famous at the time,
you know. But listen, my granddaddy was a wonderful man.
He but when I was with my grandfather, Billy Graham,
I never we never talked shop like, we didn't talk business.
We just talked about grandfather and grandson. And that's what
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I think. He always loved about me, and I always
loved about him. We just we were always grandfather grandson.
Even though he was famous. I knew that my life
was different. It opened up so many doors to allow
me to meet other people simply because I was Billy
Graham's grandson. Not anything I've done, I promise you that.
And it's a big blessing to have someone that like
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I said before, people love and adored and respected. He
just opened up so many doors. Things that I don't deserve,
I get because of my granddaddy. And I'm very thankful
for that in life.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You know, I'm glad you brought all of that up
because I was at the NRB and I heard one
of the preachers that I'd been listening to for oh
my gosh, decades, decades, and he talked about and someone
asked him, what, what was the most important thing in
your life all these years being a preacher, and on
the radio, he said, being a grandfather. And I thought,
you know, and I'm just recently, as Linda mentioned earlier
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in the show, a new grandmother, and you know, it
is significant. I think that relationship between a grandchild and
their grandparent, and I think it's a time in our lives.
And I guess I'm speaking now will to some of
the people that are listening who might be grandparents. It's
a time in our lives now to take all of
those things that we've learned and the wisdom that we've gained,
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and to just share that now with another generation, because
that is the future. That is my future, my child's
future is in that grandchild. And I think it's just
so important to really remember our duty as a grandparent
and what that means spiritually in other ways.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Well, I'm not a grandparent yet now you're.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Still younger, little, but I'm a young grandparent. I just
want that known for the record everybody because.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
But there are a lot of people that are listening
that are grandparents, and they can have a powerful impact
on their grandchildren, especially when their mom and dad are
busy working and trying to make a living so they
can have a home to live in, and things like
that can be you know, sometimes the parents get tired,
they don't go to church like they should do. But
this is where the grandparents can come in and can
have a huge spiritual impact on their kids and set
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the tongue. And when we found out when we're at
the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, when we realize when just
one person gives their life to Christ, whether it's a child,
whether it's a mom or dad, get their life to Christ,
it changes the whole atmosphere of the home and it
can like you know, start leading other people to Christ
in their home. And so I would encourage grandparents, you know,
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you know, to speak into their grandchildren's life and their
children's life. Listen, my kids are getting older. I don't
have one that's married yet. I got one engaged, another
one trying to get engaged, and it could. I know
it's going to be soon for me. But what a
great time that you can impact your grandkids as a
grandparent and see, and it always be a parent. You're
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always a parent. Like my kids, even if they get married,
I'm still their parent and will still speak truth unto
their life and encourage them to walk along how the
Bible directs him. And so it never stop, never stop
being a parent, never stop being a grandparent, Keep loving
those kids, keep teaching the kids and grandkids.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
You know, that's a good point. And you know, we've
got a couple of minutes here, and that's all. And
one of the things I wanted to talk about you
is that how your grandfather was there for so many
presidents during his lifetime, regardless of party affiliation. And we'll
even though, like I'm upset about some things that maybe
the one party is doing, and they're probably upset with
what our party is doing, but the bottom line is
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that your grandfather said an example, and I know that
you're this way too, that we have to look beyond
that and see the person there. So sometimes we do
get really caught up in the politics of everything. But
you know, that's really not where we were meant to be,
is it. We were meant to be down in the dirt,
be human and look at each other as another human being.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
My grandfather, he was a confident to fourteen or thirteensident
and there's only been forty seven presidents, and so he's
known thirteen of the forty seven presidents. And that's where
these other men, these other presidents would call my grandfather,
especially in time of need. Lynvin Johnson, for example, a Democrat,
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he loved my granddaddy, and he struggled with the Vietnam War.
He struggles sending men to die in the Vietnam War,
and he would pray and he would ask my grandfather
come and come by the house and pray with him
and talk about because he really struggled with them. And
then you also had George H. Bush when the Gulf
War started, he asked my grandfather to come into the
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White House that night and pray with him as a president,
as a family before they go to war, and so
my grandfather's just he's always been a friend of these
men and continue, I say continue, he continues that even
after Johnson and to the President's always trying to help
him and to pray with him and to encourage them.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's beautiful. Thank you for sharing those stories, as are
quite unique stories. And no other man that I know
can claim that that they were confidants to thirteen out
of forty seven presidents. God bless you. Will Graham with
the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. Check them out. They're going
to be doing a huge European Congress for Evangelism in Berlin, Germany,
so that's pretty exciting. Will, thanks for joining me today.
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I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
No, thank you very bye bye.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
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Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. You're right, I'm not Sean.
I'm Rose and I'm so privileged to be here today
and Friday. By the way, Sean is actually traveling with
the President. He's got his whole Middle East tour going
on and he's going to have a special edition live
from the Middle East on his TV show. So safe
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travels to Sean and the President, and I wish them
really well. And how exciting that Sean gets to be
a part of that, which means how exciting I get
to be a part of the Sean Handity Show today.
So if you want to call in, I'm happy to
talk to you. The phone number I'll be giving that
in just a second. But I do want to talk
about a few things first, and I want to talk
about what we're going to talk about more later on
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in the show, because we have Corey Lewandowski coming on
to talk about what happened at the facility in New
Jersey and what's going to happen as a result. That's
one of the big questions I have, and we'll get
to all of that. But when we think back about
what happened on Friday, and we watched as the Democrats
once again gave priority over US citizens to illegal immigrants
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when they stormed that ice facility in New Jersey. And
it all got to me to thinking about the constitutional
limits of government. And you know what, and not only that,
but how our representatives don't seem to take their charge
as seriously and even respectfully as they were meant to.
And I'm so disappointed that some of our representatives today
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seem to believe that they are above the law. They're
well and power and far beyond what the founders ever intended.
And a lot of times in my monologues you would
hear me say, you know, the faith of our founding fathers,
and how important that was to establishing this country. And
I do believe that's true, and their faith was significant.
But guess what, not all of them were strong, faithful men.
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They didn't have to be, because they understood one thing
that man had a since nature, and they were cautious
about concentrating too much power in the hands of any
one person or group because man has a sinful nature.
They all agreed on that, whether they were men of
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faith or not. And it was what they believed about
this human nature that honestly really shaped how they believed
government should work, especially when it comes to protecting individual
freedom preventing tyranny. It was James Madison who asked in
the Federalist Papers, and it was number fifty one, what
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is government itself? But the greatest of all reflections on
human nature? And he also said in fifty one that
if men were angels, no government would be necessary. So
the idea was to design a structure that prevented any
one person or group from becoming too powerful, because we
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well know that men are not angels. And if you
look at Federalist Papers number one, and a lot of
people look at that first paper as just an introduction
to the rest of the Federalist papers. But by calling
it just an introduction, we're not doing it justice, because
in truth, it's a very powerful call to action. It's
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an appeal from Alexander Hamilton to the people of the
United States to completely rethink how government should be. And
he made it clear that it wasn't just a small
decision because of the very future and survival of this
United States was at stake. The decisions for our nation's
future were placed in the hands of the people. A
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government by the people and if you think about it too.
Years later, at another really pivotal point in America's history,
Abraham Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address kind of drew on
that same concept when he said that this nation under
God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that
government of the people, by the people, for the people
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shall not perish from the earth. So that was in
eighteen sixty three. That was seventy five years later. It
was still a novel idea, but still one that was
to be protected and remembered. And Abraham Lincoln knew that
we still need to talk about this, that the power
belongs to the people. And we go back to Madison's time.
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What made the moment so historic was that it wasn't
kings or generals or even elites deciding our future. It
was everyday citizens. The fate of the country depended on
their choice. That kind of trust in the people was
very rare. I mean, not only in the world at
that time, but if you look back in all of history,
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I mean, that was something that was just not happening,
giving the people the power. But it does talk or
speak to how deeply Hamilton believed in the American experiment.
He imagined a great future for America. He even called
it the beginning of an empire, but not in the
way that we think of empires, not in a sense
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of conquest, but just to show how important and influential
this nation could become if it could be held together
under this new constitution. So at the time, the United
States was still fragile and it was far from powerful.
But Hamilton believed that building a government based on the
will of the people was not only bold, but it
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could change the course of history. And guess what, he
was right. This country was founded on the idea that
man was created by God to be free, and the
only way, the only way to establish and maintain that
freedom was to reduce the size of government. And if
you think about it, in our founder's case, it was
a king that they were trying to get out from under,
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a very oppressive, imposing, freedom restricting king. I mean, at
that time, it was the king's way or no way.
So they understood all of this. So when we look
back on where we see our leadership headed, it's just
not what we saw on Friday. It's not what we've
been seeing in DC over the years. We see evidence
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of elitism and central power from all of those people
in Washington, DC, most of them. Anyway, We've been seeing
it for a really long time now, and you know what,
our concern is deep, but not only that. We should
have a concern that's historically resonent, because it goes to
the very heart of what the Federalist papers authors warned
us of. They warned us of the dangers of concentrating
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power into the hands of one person or one group, right,
and the erosion of checks and balances. They were really
aware of the human tendencies toward overreach. Men are not angels.
And by the way, when they designed a system of
government where each branch would act as a check on
the others, that was a novel idea too. Representatives were
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meant to be servants of the people, not rulers above
the law. We've come a really long way, haven't we,
Because our representatives most definitely believe themselves to be above
the law in most cases. And I truly believe that
many of them consider to be us to be their
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servants rather than they ours. You know, they do. You
can see it every day the elected officials are acting,
you know, laterally when they flout legal boundaries or the
proper process of oversight. Even if they have good intentions,
they are losing our trust and they're also challenging the
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constitutional limits that were so very carefully established. So now
this behavior that we're witnessing, whether we see it as
bold advocacy or reckless overreach, you know where I fall
on that one. But it does an important question, doesn't it.
It's about how authority is exercised today and whether it's
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consistent with the constitutional framework that was later by our
founding fathers. And we're going to talk about this a
little later in the show too, because one of the
things that I think about a lot is how the
state of our nation is really showing scars, scars because
of years of neglect. You know, there's people we have
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been charged and so has our representatives with the preservation
and the protection of our constitution. And guess what those representatives,
in many cases have failed us. There are so many
in DC still, I mean, we're looking good in some ways. Yeah,
we have a great president, but still you can see it.
There's so many in DC who seem to care more
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about their status, their payoffs, their grand standing than they
care about representing us or or safeguarding our constitution, because
what are they doing about the safety of those that
they're supposed to represent when they put others and their
welfare over our welfare. You know what, Our government has
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become an industry, and just like with any other industry,
it has its own special interests and their desire for growth.
They're always looking for ways to increase the power and
their influence. But I'll tell you something, Unlike other industries
in the private sector, the government doesn't produce wealth, so
it has to take wealth by force, and it's through taxes, regulations,
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redistribution of wealth, and all of that. Everything that they
do because they want that power and influence. They do
it with a purpose of political outcome. That's that's their purpose,
a political outcome, when in fact they should be doing
it with the purpose of benefiting others, a beneficial economic outcome.
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You know what. That's why they hate Doche, That's why
they hate everything that Trump is doing, because what he's
doing is shrinking government. What he's doing is taking away
that power and influence where it is overreaching and not
what it was meant to be. The organizing principles of
our constitutional republic, our faith, family, and country, and it
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should be in that order, faith, family, and country. And
the only thing that stands in the way of the
government becoming those things, the government becoming the organizing principle
of our society and our culture even is the Constitution.
That constitution stands in the way of just about every
progressive agenda item. And that's why they hate it. That's
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why they look every day for every way possible to
get around it. I don't you know, I just I
wonder sometimes what kind of place this would be, this
America if the spirit of our forefathers, everything that we've
just talked about, was completely extinguished, completely extinguished, Because you know,
that's kind of a goal of theirs. Those men and
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women that forged this republic. They did it by making
great sacrifices. They did it by taking huge risk. And
get what, guess what, America is great because of it.
It can still be great as long as we remain free.
And we have to remember what it was that made
this country great in the first place. It's people like you,
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people with a vision, a vision for freedom, a vision
for liberty. Oh yeah, and guess what a vision for
safe haven for its citizens. It's like the left always
wants to stamp out anything, any opposition. They want a
country with a singular mindset. You can see it, can't you.
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Every day that singular mindset. They want you all to
fall in line to that. With that, and there's certain
ideas that they don't like. They hate Americanism, and you
can see it as they embrace things like gobels, global
citizenship and all the crazy stuff that's out there. That's
how much they hate America. They don't even like us.
They would prefer global citizenship than a citizenship here in
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this great country. And even today, a lot of the
questions that were raised in those federalist papers, especially number one,
like how much power the government should have and how
it should serve the people. You know, those things are
still not only debated, but they're challenged daily. The issues
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at the heart of our democracy remain just as important
now as they were back then. And what we continue
to witness from democrats, particularly the progressives, they're not isolated incidents.
You know that it's something that reflects a larger trend
in government, a trend that Madison Hamilton and the others
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warned us of, and we need to take heed. We
really do stay with me. These three going to talk
about a lot of things. We're going to talk to
Will Graham, the grandson of Billy Graham. We're also talking
to Gordon Chang. I love Gordon Chang. He is so
on top of everything that's happening with the relationship between China,
so of course we have an opportunity to discuss with
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him what just went down over the weekend in Switzerland.
That's a Biggie and one War two Corey Lewandowski. We're
going to get into the weeds here over what happened
on Friday with those representatives and what's going to be
done about their behavior. All of that on The Sean
Hannity Show with Me Rose today, So don't go too
far away. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show, where
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the phone number is eight hundred nine four to one,
Sean eight hundred nine Tour one Shawn eight hundred ninet
four one seven three to six. I hope everyone had
a great Mother's Day, Linda. I wanted to ask you
about your Mother's Day because you're like a mother to
like a million people. Now, how was it, I.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Mean, listen, it was amazing. My listen.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I have to say, I think one of the funniest
moments of all of Mother's Day.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
First of all to my husband Anthony, because he crushed it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And I know he tries so hard to always do
the right thing, and we had a house full of people.
But the thing that I love more than than anything
as far as like food, drink skull is coffee.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Coffee is my life.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And we get up Mother's Day morning, we have a
lovely coffee.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Machine, and we are out of beans. And I came
downstairs and I'm like, where's the coffee? It's going on
with the with the coffee and so of old days
and I have and he just looked at me. He's like,
oh my god. I said sorry. I was like, how
do we not have? I mean, I keep like such
an abundant amount of coffee in our house. What the
hell's the coffee?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It was so weird anyways, but he crushed it. The
kids were here, My parents were here, His parents were here.
It was very, very nice.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It was great. I'm so glad to hear all of that.
Did you get house yours? Yours? Here?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
We have a little little love. Are we allowed to
talk about our precious new edition?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yes? I would love to. I have a granddaughter now,
and this is so I can't People would say to me, Linda,
are you excited to become a grandmother. I'm like, yeah,
I guess. But I'll tell you what. The moment I
saw that beautiful little thing, I just I fell in
love in a way that I don't know that I've
ever been in love before. Really, it's quite different. And
people would try to tell you that, but you really
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don't know until you experience it. And I think about
her every Sometimes my husband and I will sit in
front of the you know when you have one of
those digital frames, and we just both sit there looking
at all the pictures of her. That's all we do.
Don't even talk.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
About she really is very very cute. Congratulations to your
son and his wife. It's amazing, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And I was very blessed to have, you know, one child.
It took seven years to have one. So I'm so
happy to be a mother in the first place, but
I'm even more thrilled to be a grandmother, of course,
a very young grandmother. Just for all of you out there,
just so you know, okay, we'll be back with We'll
be back with the grandson of Billy Graham will Graham
right after this, stay with me.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Get your dose of independence and liberty every weekday right
here on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose.
Sean is actually traveling with the President on his Middle
East tour, and you'll be doing it. He'll be doing
live broadcasts on his TV show, so make sure you
check in for that. How lucky is he to do that?
That's such a blessing anyway, It's also a blessing for
me because I get to be here today in his place,
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and I'll also be here on Friday, so make sure
you join me on Friday as well. Right now, though,
we've got the grandson of legendary evangelist Billy Graham and
the son of Franklin Gram. Will Graham serves as executive
vice president with the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, and he
spent nearly two decades proclaiming the Gospel all around the world.
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And he just recently returned from Bolivia where more than
forty thousand people attended a one day event. They had
nearly eight thousand people respond to an ultra call to
make a decision for Christ. So Welcome to the show,
Will Graham. How are you?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Thank you rose great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it was really fun. I got to meet you
last week in Pittsburgh. I think it was your first
time visiting the city of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
It was of all the US cities, that's one city
that's kind of snuck past me somehow. I don't know how,
but I've gone to other places, going to the Pittsburgh Airport,
but never been to Pittsburgh. So it was great to
be there for the first time.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, it was great to have you here, It really was.
It was a great event.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's really impressive, Will, seventy five years and three generations
of Billy Graham's message of the good News. You must
be so proud of your heritage, And I was wondering
what it was that it did for you as a
child growing up knowing that your grandfather was Billy Graham,
your dad's Franklin Graham. Did you feel this like impressed
upon you? Did you feel that you had to follow
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in their footsteps? How did this all work out for you?
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Well? I was just born into it, so it was
always kind of for me. And when I look at
my grandfather Billy Graham. I know that he's famous. I
know he's well loved, and I'll say you, that's a
wonderful thing to have. A lot of people have relatives
that people don't like. But I was blessed to have
a grandfather that everybody loved and appreciated and respected and
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say with my father and so they're very much a
blessing in my life. And they've opened up so many
doors for me in my life, and I'm very grateful
for that. But at the same time, I realized, even
though my grandfather is a very spiritual man and he
found Christ, I had to find Christ. And so when
I was young, I put my faith in Jesus Christ
when I was about six years old and paved my
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life to Jesus. And then God's been using me to
preach the Gospel and other places, just like my grandfather
and my father. So it's a wonderful blessing. I will
say that.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh, I agree, You're very fortunate. And you know, there
seems to be one of the things I want to
talk you about. There seems to be a great number
of young people right now turning to God. I mean,
they're looking towards faith and We've been watching this happened
over the past couple of years, and it seems like
they're seeking a purpose and direction in their life. And
I think for these young people there's a desire to
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make a connection because, for Heaven's sake, since twenty twenty,
we've become so isolated, particularly the young, and there is
no one on one really like you and I have
experienced in a lifetime. So they have that desire for connection,
I guess. But it's an ever increasing isolating environment. So
what are you seeing right now with the youth.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Well, I've seen it. I'm sure there's a lot more
going on in high schools and things like that. I know,
like even my daughter, she's dating a boy and he
became a Christian his last year in high school. And
so these people that are coming from out of high
school going into college. There's God's really moving among colleges
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here in the United States. I mean, it started with
Asbury in twenty twenty three. That's where it really got
and then it just seems to die down then pop
up and their schools like Sanford, Ohio, State Auburn. Matter
of fact, the Auburn got in trouble to the coach Freeze.
They're get in trouble because he was baptizing football players.
And I don't know what's wrong with that. How do
you get in trouble for that? No one over those,
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but you know, Auburn's a wonderful school, a great school.
But they saw it at Auburn, they saw at the
University Kentucky. Some of these aren't even Christian schools. Most
of these aren't Christian schools. And that's what's really unique
about this. This is where just there's some Christians at
school praying that God would come to visit their school
and to do a mighty work. And God's been answering
those prayers, and it's still going on, and there are
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tens and tens of thousands of college kids coming to
know Christ all around our country. And it's just wonderful
to see this taking place.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, I remember you mentioned Ohio State University. I remember
that there were about sixty students that were baptized during
a service at the university and the football players were
the ones that were leading the event, and they saw
about it. Eight hundred students attend and the hundreds of
them for free bibles. And actually I think I read
somewhere that the Bibles are selling like at greater numbers
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than they ever have in history, and a lot of
people are giving the credit to these young people who
are purchasing them for the first time ever.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
You're exactly right. The Bible, it's been in it's always
been the world's greatest selling book ever in the history
of the world is the Bible. But what we've seen
was the decline in people buying Bibles until recently, and
now it's an upward trend of people buying Bibles. Bibles
are the number one seller and the world and it's
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an incredible book that changes lives, and we're seeing young
people gobble it up. And I think part of it
is because of the you know, they starve in for
truth and the world that preaches all this stuff that
claims to be true, but they know it's not, and
yet they find that in the Bible, this is truth,
this is real, This is how we can know God,
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and that God's not fake, that God is real, and
this is how we can have a personal relationship with Him.
So they're seeing truth and they're finding God at the
same time. And it's a breath of first air form.
So I think it's been a wonderful thing that's been
taking place across US campuses.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I agree. At your event, I met a young
gen z Or. His name was Avery, and he said
something that just really struck me. He said that today's
youth are the most interconnected, and yet they are the
most isolated. And they're isolated to a degree that you
and I and other generations were not. So this is
something quite new for this generation, and I think they're
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finally feeling that they want to be connected, not just
physically and human relationships, but even spiritually.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Well, you're exactly right. There's a great hunger and the
souls of men and women very young because they haven't
had that before. And a lot of these families that
they maybe come from great families, maybe they don't come
great families. That doesn't matter, but they're they're looking. They're
spiritually hungry. They're looking for real relationships and that's found
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in the Christian faith and finding God because he's our creator.
He's the one that made us, he's the one that
changes us. He's the one that gives this purpose and
meaning in life. And when you find other believers, they
help you along the way and encourage you along the way,
and when you stumble and fall in life, it's them.
They're going to come and help pick you up and
encourage you along the way and pray for you and
to keep you going. And so it's a wonderful body.
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The Christian life was never meant to be lived alone.
It was meant to be lived with a group of believers,
and so that's what they're finding, especially on college campuses.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I love that, I really do. You know, these young
people are facing so many challenges today, and as you
said too, they're looking for truth. And you know, so
many times you will hear someone say, well, this is
my truth. I'm sorry, there's like just one truth, Okay,
not yours and his and hers, but one truth. No
matter what we're talking about, what subject we're on, there
is one truth. There is truth, and truth is black
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and white. There's a black and white thing going on.
You're not gray shaded areas. But one of the things too,
about I wanted to ask you about was being the
grandson of Billy Graham. How much has that influenced you
and affected you even when you were a young person.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Well, I think it's always had a huge influence on me.
Whether I realized it or not, especially when you're young.
I mean, when I'm talking about young, I'm not five
years old. That's probably the first time I remembered. My
teacher came up to me, a wonderful lady. She put
her hands on my bank, said this is Billy Graham's grandson.
And I'm thinking to myself, how does she know who
my granddady is? You know, I've I never brought him
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for you know, show and tale. I never I mean,
I didn't know my granddaddy was famous at the time,
you know. But listen, my granddaddy was a wonderful man.
He but when I was with my grandfather, Billy Graham,
I never we never talked shop like, we didn't talk business.
We just talked about grandfather and grandson. And that's what
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I think. He always loved about me, and I always
loved about him. We just we were always grandfather grandson.
Even though he was famous. I knew that my life
was different. It opened up so many doors to allow
me to meet other people simply because I was Billy
Graham's grandson. Not anything I've done, I promise you that.
And it's a big blessing to have someone that like
(25:23):
I said before, people love and adored and respected. He
just opened up so many doors. Things that I don't deserve,
I get because of my granddaddy. And I'm very thankful
for that in life.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You know, I'm glad you brought all of that up
because I was at the NRB and I heard one
of the preachers that I'd been listening to for oh
my gosh, decades, decades, and he talked about and someone
asked him, what, what was the most important thing in
your life all these years being a preacher, and on
the radio, he said, being a grandfather. And I thought,
you know, and I'm just recently, as Linda mentioned earlier
(25:56):
in the show, a new grandmother, and you know, it
is significant. I think that relationship between a grandchild and
their grandparent, and I think it's a time in our lives.
And I guess I'm speaking now will to some of
the people that are listening who might be grandparents. It's
a time in our lives now to take all of
those things that we've learned and the wisdom that we've gained,
(26:17):
and to just share that now with another generation, because
that is the future. That is my future, my child's
future is in that grandchild. And I think it's just
so important to really remember our duty as a grandparent
and what that means spiritually in other ways.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Well, I'm not a grandparent yet now you're.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Still younger, little, but I'm a young grandparent. I just
want that known for the record everybody because.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
But there are a lot of people that are listening
that are grandparents, and they can have a powerful impact
on their grandchildren, especially when their mom and dad are
busy working and trying to make a living so they
can have a home to live in, and things like
that can be you know, sometimes the parents get tired,
they don't go to church like they should do. But
this is where the grandparents can come in and can
have a huge spiritual impact on their kids and set
(27:09):
the tongue. And when we found out when we're at
the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, when we realize when just
one person gives their life to Christ, whether it's a child,
whether it's a mom or dad, get their life to Christ,
it changes the whole atmosphere of the home and it
can like you know, start leading other people to Christ
in their home. And so I would encourage grandparents, you know,
(27:31):
you know, to speak into their grandchildren's life and their
children's life. Listen, my kids are getting older. I don't
have one that's married yet. I got one engaged, another
one trying to get engaged, and it could. I know
it's going to be soon for me. But what a
great time that you can impact your grandkids as a
grandparent and see, and it always be a parent. You're
(27:52):
always a parent. Like my kids, even if they get married,
I'm still their parent and will still speak truth unto
their life and encourage them to walk along how the
Bible directs him. And so it never stop, never stop
being a parent, never stop being a grandparent, Keep loving
those kids, keep teaching the kids and grandkids.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
You know, that's a good point. And you know, we've
got a couple of minutes here, and that's all. And
one of the things I wanted to talk about you
is that how your grandfather was there for so many
presidents during his lifetime, regardless of party affiliation. And we'll
even though, like I'm upset about some things that maybe
the one party is doing, and they're probably upset with
what our party is doing, but the bottom line is
(28:32):
that your grandfather said an example, and I know that
you're this way too, that we have to look beyond
that and see the person there. So sometimes we do
get really caught up in the politics of everything. But
you know, that's really not where we were meant to be,
is it. We were meant to be down in the dirt,
be human and look at each other as another human being.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
My grandfather, he was a confident to fourteen or thirteensident
and there's only been forty seven presidents, and so he's
known thirteen of the forty seven presidents. And that's where
these other men, these other presidents would call my grandfather,
especially in time of need. Lynvin Johnson, for example, a Democrat,
(29:19):
he loved my granddaddy, and he struggled with the Vietnam War.
He struggles sending men to die in the Vietnam War,
and he would pray and he would ask my grandfather
come and come by the house and pray with him
and talk about because he really struggled with them. And
then you also had George H. Bush when the Gulf
War started, he asked my grandfather to come into the
(29:40):
White House that night and pray with him as a president,
as a family before they go to war, and so
my grandfather's just he's always been a friend of these
men and continue, I say continue, he continues that even
after Johnson and to the President's always trying to help
him and to pray with him and to encourage them.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's beautiful. Thank you for sharing those stories, as are
quite unique stories. And no other man that I know
can claim that that they were confidants to thirteen out
of forty seven presidents. God bless you. Will Graham with
the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. Check them out. They're going
to be doing a huge European Congress for Evangelism in Berlin, Germany,
so that's pretty exciting. Will, thanks for joining me today.
(30:22):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
No, thank you very bye bye.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
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