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December 19, 2025 33 mins

In this episode, Greg Jarrett fills in for Sean Hannity, diving into the alarming fraud scandal in Minnesota, where an estimated $2 billion has been stolen from social service programs. He discusses the incompetence of Governor Tim Walz and Attorney General Keith Ellison, who have been accused of turning a blind eye to rampant scams within their state. With insights on the broader implications of government oversight and accountability, Greg also touches on similar issues across the nation, including healthcare and unemployment fraud. Join us as we explore the intersection of politics, fraud, and the urgent need for reform.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody. I'm Greg Jared, filling in for Sean Hannity
on the Sean Hannity Show. Happy to be here for
the second day in a row. Shaw's taking off a
few well deserved days of rest or in the holidays.
I've been at Fox. I'm a legal analyst there for
going on twenty four years. I've written several books, beginning

(00:22):
with the Russia Hoax, the Sequel witch Hunt, I wrote
The Trial of the Century, and the latest book is
The US Constitution and other patriotic documents. Please check them out.
But I want to begin today with the burr in
my saddle over fraud. Have you ever wondered where a

(00:44):
lot of your hard earned tax dollars go? Well, look
no further than the screwed up state of Minnesota. It
is a blue state, to be sure, run by idiots
and morons that are so utterly incompetent. If they failed
to refuse to recognize one of the greatest ripoffs in

(01:05):
American history, Minnesota is now the epicenter of fraud. We're
talking about roughly two billion dollars with a capital B
stolen by scammers from social service programs. In fact, there
were so many swindles going on at the same time.

(01:25):
You'd need a float chart just to keep track of
them all. And of course, at the top of the
float chart should be a big fat picture of Governor
Tim Walls and his sidekick Keith Ellison, the state's scandal
plugued attorney general. Together, those two are the dumb and
dumber of politics, and both are to blame because they

(01:50):
were repeatedly warned of all the hustles and flim plans
going on in their precious Somali community. But they didn't care.
Now they thought it would be racist to prosecute Somali constituents,
so they happily allowed the fraud to continue and indeed

(02:14):
to escalate. You see, in uber liberal Minnesota, it is
politically incorrect to enforce the law against Somali's God forbid,
putting criminals behind bars might lose some votes. Not only
did Waltz turn a blind eyed all the conjobs going

(02:35):
on under his bulbous nose, he actually helped them flourish.
Evidence shows he was told repeatedly of the ginormous COVID
fraud scandal early on, but instead of fixing it, he
worked to protect it and to cover it up. He
allegedly aided and abetted all of the schemes, retaliating against

(03:01):
whistleblowers who had come forward with courage to try to
expose the fraud. Waltz tried his level best to discredit
the fraud reports themselves. So you know that's not merely
rank in competence, it's intentional malfeasance. No wonder Walt's admitted

(03:24):
during the vice presidential debate that he's a knucklehead. Really,
he actually said that, and by the way, nobody has
ever disagreed with that assessment. The guy is a total buffoon.
I wouldn't trust him to run a hot dog stand,
and yet he has the audacity to run for reelection,

(03:45):
So you know he can ruin Minnesota further with even
more corruption. Tim Waltz is so clueless that his own
state workers that the Department of Human Services denounced his
epic incompetence. They issued an official statement saying Waltz's one

(04:06):
hundred percent responsible for fleecing more than a billion dollars
from taxpayers. Look, is anybody really surprised? I mean, this
is what happens when the government begins handing out free
money while relying on states like Minnesota for oversight. I mean,

(04:27):
the scammers and the grifters are having a field day.
The pandemic relief was supposed to be administered by Waltz's
Education Department, but they were so inept under his leadership
or lack thereof, that it became a piece of cake
to steal hundreds of millions of dollars in phony claims.

(04:50):
Money that was supposed to go to feed needy children
was stolen by scammers who splashed their cash on luxury homes,
fancy cars, elaborate vacations, lavish lifestyles. They were yucking it up.
In one case alone, they claimed to have served ninety

(05:11):
one million meals that were never served, for which they
fraudulently received two hundred and fifty million dollars in federal funds.
Those are your tax dollars going into the pockets of
Minnesota cruks. I can't think of anything lower than stealing

(05:34):
money from hungry children, or taking money away from kids
who were supposed to be receiving autistic services that never happened.
But that's not all. Housing programs were also ripped off
in Minnesota. In fact, the list is so long that
one former US attorney estimates that the total figure will

(05:57):
likely surpass two bills billion dollars in fraud. Trump is
vowed to prosecute and then deport the Somali criminals responsible
for all that fraud. But Timmy Waltz calls that petty vindictiveness.
I'm not kidding. In the twisted world of Waltz, the

(06:19):
law should be selective, because you know, equal enforcement of
the law is racist. It's not just the wicked world
of Waltz, but mega thefts are now being discovered in Ohio,
where you guessed it. Somali's reportedly perpetrated a massive Medicaid

(06:41):
theft involving healthcare payouts based on fake medical conditions. All right,
that's appalling, But is anybody surprised since Obamacare, one of
the greatest deceptions of all time, opened the door to
a wholesale plundering of our nation's treasury. The General Accounting

(07:03):
Office says that Obamacare subsidies are costing you, the taxpayers,
some twenty seven billion dollars a year. Twenty seven billion
in fake identities, dead people, and improper use of Social
Security numbers. And then there's food stamps or we're not

(07:26):
supposed to call them food stamps anymore, because that's what
they are. We call them snap payments. Well, those are
rife with fraud. Hundreds of thousands of people are getting
government money, except they're dead, so you know they're not
eating a lot. Don't get me started on my home

(07:48):
state of California. Massive unemployment fraud has recently been uncovered
that resulted in billions of stolen dollars. Get this, up
to thirty one billion dollars that was paid to criminals,
including people behind bars. Education fraud, healthcare fraud, Medicare fraud

(08:16):
in California has been uncovered. Again, that's your money down
the drain, and Gavin Newsom doesn't care, except to the
extent that his former chief of staff was caught and
charged in one of those schemes. Here's the bottom line.

(08:37):
Democrats say they care about the needy, except they don't.
That's just a ruse. It's a pretense for something else.
They use the needy. They exploit the needy to strong
arm the government into handing out benefits so that the

(08:58):
cash can then be by their constituents, and people like
Tim Waltz look the other way, and always liberal democrats
want more. They will ruthlessly and persistently dig deep into
your pockets until they're empty, and then they demand more

(09:20):
of your income with higher taxes. It's the old socialist
stratagem that seems appealing to some until, as Margaret Thatcher
famously observed, you eventually run out of other people's money.
That's the history of socialism. It's a well worn story

(09:41):
of failure and collapse. Later on in our program, I'm
going to be talking with Peter Schweitzer about this. He's
president of the Government Accountability to Institute, and he is
certainly an expert on the subject of fraud. Peter also
wrote the book called Clinton Cash, so he's going to

(10:05):
tell us about the recent news of how the FBI's
corruption probe into Hillary Clinton's suspected pay to play schemes
was killed by her protectors in Barack Obama's administration. We're
going to take a quick break right now. Coming up,

(10:25):
we have, in addition to Peter Schweizer, I'll be talking
to Mike Davis about whether any of the people involved
in the law fair crusade against Donald Trump will ever
be held accountable with indictments. I think there'll be indictments
in the beginning of the new year. We'll also talk

(10:48):
to Brian Finch about Trump's attacks on Caribbean drug boats
tied to Venezuela. Are they legal?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
They are.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
We'll be right back. I'm Greg Jared filling in for
Sean Hannity.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Are you ready to get out of the media spin room? Well,
you've come to the right place.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
It is the Sean Hannity Show. Welcome back to the

(11:43):
Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jared filling in for Sean.
A few minutes ago, I mentioned, in the context of
all the fraud going under the nose of Tim Waltz
in Minnesota, how he's incompetent, and in fact, he admitted
in the vice presidential debate when he was running with

(12:05):
kamalaw that he's a knucklehead. And so I want to
play you know, some people have said, and I've mentioned
it before, have said, oh, did he know he didn't
really he didn't call himself enough. Yeah he did. And
I'm going to play the clip for you right now.
Here's the context. Waltz is a known liar, and he
got caught many times in lies. The number of times

(12:26):
he was in China he claimed he was there at
the time of the Tienneman Square massacre in nineteen eighty nine.
Record show he wasn't there. He was in the United States.
So a moderator asked him during the debate, and here's
what Timmy Waltz had to say.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Governor Walls, you said you were in Hong Kong during
the deadly Tienanmen Square protests in the spring of nineteen
eighty nine, But Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets
are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia until
August of that year. Can you explain that discrepancy?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Ye?

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, Well, and to the folks out there, it didn't
get at the top of this. Look, I grew up
in small, rural Nebraska town of four hundred town that
you rode your bike with your buddies till the street
lights come on, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Proud of that service.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Now, look, my community knows who I am. They saw
where I was at they look. I will be the
first to tell you I have poured my heart into
my community. I've tried to do the best I can,
but I've not been perfect, and I'm a knucklehead at times.
I will say more than anything. Many times I will
talk a lot. I will get caught up in the rhetoric,

(13:35):
but being there, the impact it made, the difference it
made in my life, I learned a lot about China.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Governor. Just to follow up on that, the question was,
can you explain the dipancy?

Speaker 5 (13:45):
All I said on this was is I got there
that summer and misspoke on this. So I will just
that's what I've said.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
What a slee's ball, But there it is. He called
himself a knucklehead, and no truer words wherever spoken the
guy as a buffoon. He's an incompetent governor of Minnesota,
and he's running for reelection amid all of the fraud,
which may roughly be two billion dollars of your taxpayer money.

(14:14):
Coming up later, I'll talk to Peter Schweizer about it.
He knows all about the fraud in Minnesota. But I
also want to talk to Peter about how the Department
of Justice under Barack Obama, probably under the President's orders,
decided to kill and bury the growing corruption investigation into

(14:42):
Hillary Clinton's foreign pay to play schemes which enriched the
Clinton Foundation, and of course they use that foundation as
their personal piggy bank. There's considerable evidence. Bill and Hillary
got rich from foreign donations made to their Clinton Foundation, which,

(15:07):
as I say, was really their own bank account. We're
talking about hundreds of millions of dollars, and as I
wrote in my book The Russia Hoaks back in twenty eighteen,
many of the largest contributions were made by people and
shell companies. There's a red alert connected to a Russian

(15:30):
controlled business called Uranium One, which managed, through a series
of clever maneuvers, to seize control of a sizeable percentage
of America's prized uranium assets. I'm reading directly out of
my book. All of this happened as Hillary was serving

(15:53):
as Secretary of State, and of course the inevitable allegations
of corruption followed, and the FBI became so concerned that
it opened a criminal investigation into a pay to play
scheme involving Hillary and her foundation. The bureau gathered evidence

(16:15):
that the foreign cash may have illegally influenced US foreign
policy under Hillary Clinton. Peter wrote about it. I wrote
about it. We'll be talking with him coming up on
the Sean Hannity Show. Solid as a rock, honest, truthful.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
This is the Sean Hannity Show.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Hey, Welcome back to the Sean Hennity Show on Greg Jarrett.
Of course, Donald Trump and his administration has been going
after drug cartels smuggling deadly fentanyl, cocaine, synthetic opolioids into
the United States that have killed more than three hundred
thousand young people since twenty twenty one. So you know,

(17:24):
they've carried out strikes against suspected drug vessels in the region.
In the Caribbean, they've seized a sanctioned oil tanker off
the coast of Venezuela, declared a blockade of all sanctioned
oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela. And Trump has said
on more than one occasion that strikes on land in

(17:47):
Venezuela could be coming sometime soon. Secretary of State Marco
Rubio had this to say on that subject today.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
At the core, foreign policy needs to be the national
interest of the United States. So you have to first
of all define what is the national interest, and then
you have to apply it. We defined it as we
are in favor of foreign policies that make America safer,
or stronger, or more prosperous, hopefully all three, but at
least one of those three, and then it requires you
to prioritize. Even the richest, most powerful and influential country

(18:17):
on Earth has limited resources, has limited time, and it
has to be able to dedicate those resources in time
through a process of prioritization that includes geographic prioritization. It
also cludes issue prioritization. When it comes to the Western Hemisphere,
the single most serious threat to the United States and
the Western Hemisphere is from transnational terrorist criminal groups primarily

(18:38):
focused on narco trafficking, but they're in all sized businesses
as well. So the good news is we have a
lot of countries in the region that openly cooperate and
work with us to confront these challenges.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
All right, that was Marco Rubio. Let's bring into the
conversation now our guest today Brian Finch, who is a
top notch lawyer. He's a partner with Pillsbury Winthrop. He
co chairs the firm's Global security practice, and Brian has
been covering the ongoing Venezuela narco terrorism and the dictatorship
under Maduro. As I say, the President and Secretary of

(19:12):
War have been doing everything they can to prevent these
boats from onboarding their drugs to American Shores. Brian, thanks
so much for being with us. You and I've talked
about this before, But in your legal opinion, does this
administration have every legal right to defend its citizens from

(19:37):
the lethal poison by using lethal military force.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Of course, it's a basic constitutional tenant that the president
has the authority to do that. I mean, that's he's
the commander in chief of the military. There are dozens
upon dozens of examples throughout American history where the president
has acted unilaterally to defend the name from any type
of threat, and this falls squarely into that category once again.

(20:05):
And folks who are protesting this, you know, this is
about being anti Trump. It's not about the president actually
exceeding his authority. So it's a policy complaint, it's not
a legal complaint.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Is there any doubt in your mind that Maduro himself
and his murderous regime in Venezuela are behind the smuggling, Well, I.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Mean, it's like any other narco state klyptocracy where of
course he exerts control with an iron fist. So why
you've had people trying to flee the country by millions
over the past decade or so he runs it. Anything
that happens in the country, happens at his direction or
at least with his awareness, and whether explicitly or implicitly,

(20:55):
this is all happening at his direction, more than likely
his profit as well. Can easily imagine that. So, of
course this is all happening, you know, with his understanding,
with his knowledge. It's not his direction at this point,
So it's his responsibility, and the president is right to
direct actions against him personally and against his regime to

(21:15):
protect Americans.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Back to the legality of it all, the cartels are
officially designated by our government as armed terror organizations, and
as such they are are they not enemy combatants and
can be legally targeted by Trump under the president's constitutional

(21:37):
war powers. And no, you do not need consent from Congress.
Wasn't it long ago given by Congress when they approve
the authorization for use of military force?

Speaker 4 (21:51):
It absolutely was. And even if people will point to
the War Powers Act, for example, to say that the
president has to go to Congress to explain what he's
doing and seek their consent, very good argument that the
War Powers Act is itself unconstitutional. Yes, and so as
the president, he can certainly consult with Congress if Congress

(22:14):
wants to weigh in, they can do so. They have
in fact been doing so. The chairman of the Armed
Services Committee, Mike Rogers from Alabama, he looked into the questionable,
you know, the questionable complaints about the one strike and
whether that was a violation of the law of war,
and the chairman walked away saying, I'm perfectly satisfied. The
president's been doing everything by the book, by the law,

(22:38):
and so he's acting fully within his constitutional authority. And oh,
by the way, enemy comments, there's also a good argument
that these are illegal combatants, much like we've said with
al Qaeda and ISIS in the Taliban back in the
early two thousands, and they don't necessarily get the protections
of law war in those cases.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Right that legal scholars, many of them, have said that
the War Powers Act, passed by Congress it was a resolution,
is unconstitutional, and in fact past presidents have ignored it,

(23:21):
including Barack Obama. And of course he used the so
called wall run Terrorism Statutes to take similar actions as
President Trump. Didn't he.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Oh, President Obama actually went further than anything that President
Trump is doing. President Obama issued a very length or
had a very lengthy memorandum written that justified him killing
American citizens overseas without any sort of due process as
long as they were suspected of being associated with terrorists

(23:56):
or presenting a potentially eminent threat to the United States.
It's the President Obama's legal team, and he agreed said
that he could order lefold drone strikes against American citizens
anywhere in the world as long as it met those conditions,
and he did so. He did so hundreds of times.
So you look at the complaints that are being lodged

(24:20):
against the president and his team about violations of the
law of work. It's silly. And you know, I've been
thinking a lot about this, greg and it it's remarkable
but also predictably pathetic that you see such unanimity about
violations with the president with lav War, those alleged violations
of lah War. You couldn't get that same unanimity about

(24:41):
Hamas going out and killing women, children, babies on October seventh,
clearly in violation of every law in the world. But
in those cases they said, well that's you know, there
were some justifications there, so call that any sort of
illegal acts that are are so evil. So it just

(25:02):
goes to show the hypocrisy and the lengths that the
president's opponents will go to in order to claim that
he is just the worst man in the history of
the United States. And you and I in the listeners, now,
it's just not true. It's just sad rhetoric that is
cloaked and illegal vernacular when all in reality is is

(25:23):
Trump arrangement syndrome.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, it really is. And you know, Democrats and their
media handmaidens or you know, raging still against TROMP. But again,
they didn't seem to care when Barack Obama went after
terrorism targets with deadly drone strikes. In fact, he approved
five hundred and forty plus strikes, killing roughly three four

(25:47):
hundred people. Joe Biden did pretty much the same thing
in Yemen, in Syria and Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere. But
you know, when Obama and Biden to it, it's perfectly lawful,
according to Democrats in the media. When Trump does it,
it's somehow war crimes that's legally absurd, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
It absolutely is. And by the way, you know, to
paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, you know who find somebody who want
to shoot shoot him? And I think that's that's the
case here. If we find keros, whether they're in the
Middle East or they're in Latin America, South America, or
wherever they are, and they are threatening America's lives, they
are actively participating in killing Americans. Yeah, they need to

(26:32):
be subject to the military force. And again it's you know,
the hypocrisy and the irony. You know, there was incredible
glee going after the manufacturer of opioids and oscar winning
movies about the crusades against them. But then you go
after the makers of cocaine, seanel and all these other drugs,
and oh, my goodness, we violated the Geneva Convention. It's

(26:52):
just it's just a sad playbook that shows the desperation
of striking out against someone who doesn't fit in this
politically correct mold, doesn't use the language they like, and
isn't pursuing the priorities they want. And so again, it's
just sad, honestly at the end of the day. And
the legal arguments are just smoke and mirrors to make

(27:16):
it sound legitimate, but in reality there's nothing to it.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, you know, and I keep reading and hearing from
so called experts. Oh, this is a violation of the
law of armed conflict, embedded in international law and established
by the Geneva Conventions in nineteen forty nine. Wait a minute,
did you guys read that? Because enemy combatants under international

(27:41):
law can be lawfully targeted with deadly force in any hostilities.
Those who are protected by that law are civilians and
medical workers and religious personnel and wounded in six soldiers
and prisoner of war. But that's not happening here, is it.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
No, No, not at all. It's funny. I'm a bit
of a history buff and I was reading up on
some World War II battles where the exact type of
orders that people are or alleged orders with no quarter,
et cetera, that you know, supposedly our violation of all this.
Americans were pursuing it and getting medals for it in
World War Two, showing no quarter to the Japanese soldiers

(28:25):
who were on convoys. And again, there are certain rules
when it comes to the law of war. But anytime
someone declares that, especially President Trump, has committed an open
and shut violation of something, particularly something as nebulous and
in some ways you know, complicated, as a law of war,
and they say, oh, it's clear violation. You know it's not.

(28:47):
It is cherry picking facts, cherry picking scenarios and creating
a fantasy situation and a fantasy case to convict him
right away. But once you pull it apart, as you
recognized and our listeners have recognized, this is not a violation.
This is a president authorizing and executing exactly what he's

(29:09):
been granted under the Constitution by the founders, and good.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
For him for doing it, all right, Brian Finch, many thanks.
You're a terrific lawyer. You certainly know the subject matter
quite well, and thank you for taking the time to
join us. Brian Finch again, partner at Pillsbury Winthrop. He's
the CoA chair of the firm's global security practice. So
thanks again for being with us.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Correct, all right, when we come back, we're going to
take a couple of phone calls. Our number is one
eight hundred nine four one seventy three twenty six. Give
me a call, love to hear from you your comments
or questions. Again, that number is one eight hundred nine
four one Sean. I'm Greg Jarrett. We'll be right back

(29:53):
on the Sean Hannity Show.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Kennedy knows you're tired of government overreach and Big Brother
watching your every move.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Now it's time to take back America.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
This is that Hannity Show.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Back with the Sean Hannity Show on Greg Jarrett right
to our phone lines. Corbin joins us now from Springfield, Missouri,
whereas my mother, who lived in Springfield, used to call
it Missouri. Hey, Corbyn, how are.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
You call it? Whatever you want to? Greg, Hey, I
just want to talk to you about yesterday and today.
You've laid out the law to where, you know what
an elementary kid could understand this thing, and thank you me.
That's the way that it should be. And I'm kind
of looking at Okay, here's what Latitia James has done,

(31:20):
Here's what finally Willis has done. You did, we went
through what Klemy did here yesterday, and I'm just you know,
I want to head on a stick. I'm sorry, I
want a head on a stick. I don't know what
Pam Bondi's doing, but I don't know if she's doing
her job or not. You know what, we runed people's

(31:41):
lives that were there at January sixth. We have somebody
that actually lives here in the area that was there,
and I mean the Biden Justice Department went after this guy.
You know that there was no mercy, no mercy, and
these people are still walking around free, having a good time.

(32:02):
I mean, call me puts eighty eighty six forty seven
on the beach. Yeah, well, I don't know what that means.
What hell, I know what that means. You do know
all of America.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Does, Corbyn? You're preaching to the choir. I agree with
you one hundred percent, one thousand percent, and I've laid
it out. I laid it out yesterday. I'm going to
talk more about it today with Mike Davis in just
a few minutes actually. But you know, I think in
the new year we may well see criminal charges against
a whole host of people who misuse the law to

(32:37):
destroy Donald Trump, to try to drive him from office.
And then when he ran for re election in twenty
twenty four, in the run up to that contest, they
did the law fair crusade all over again, bringing specious charges,
phony cases, invented facts against him. And I think they

(32:59):
need to be held accountable. And there's a grand jury
that will be convened in Florida and guess what in
your neck of the woods. Corbin in Missouri a grand jury.
We'll be right back

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