The Science of Fraud

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, gladiate with us. We got a lot of
information we're going to be passing on to you today
eight hundred and nine for one sean toll free number.
You want to be a part of the program, we'll go. Oh,
Republicans better better fixed the institutional problems like oh voter
id oh purging of the voter rolls, oh mail in

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balloting that even the New York Times recognized was Yeah,
that has opened you up to substantial chances to increase
in fraud. New York Times said that. But I've been
spending now and I've been a little frustrated. And you
can ask Linda about this, because if you go back
through the entire Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, we do

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different coverage than the mob, you know, on my own
little island here with our own little team of researchers
and I you know, we ended up getting everything right
on Russia. And there's a reason, just like we end
up getting things right on a lot of topics that
the media mob gets wrong. Like we told you that
tunnel Drum could win in twenty sixteen, warning you about

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the potential for fraud, and elections warned you about that too.
How we got how do we get Ferguson right? How
did we get Baltimore right? How do we get Ducal
Cross right? How do we get Uva right? How do
we get all these cases right? When everybody else in
the mob they rush to judgment, et cetera. Because we
do our work, and there's and it's not just me.

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I gotta give credit to a lot of people on
radio and TV, my great staff again working twenty four seven.
Linda can barely keep our eyes open at this point.
And I'm kind of in the same position because we've
been now dig doing a deep, deep dive into a
lot of issues that really are alarming as it relates

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to this election. And Lindsey Graham is right. And by
the way, Ny to his credit, he gave a million
dollars to the Senate campaign of the two runoff races
in Georgia, Loffler and Purdue, because yeah, those's that's gonna
matter an awful lot. The fact that we have states
that can get everything right and perfectly done and get

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a result that everybody has belief in the integrity and
the confidence in should be universal in this country. I
have pointed out to you the September twenty third, twenty twenty,
put out by the House Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan and company.
How Democrats are attempting to so uncertainty, inaccuracy and delay

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in the twenty twenty election, and it went into every
specific detail. I'm gonna go over that in detail. We're
gonna go over what laws better be passed or Lindsay
grahmm is right, will never as Republicans or conserve it
has ever win the White House again. Many of you
feel that this election was unfair, and you are right

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to feel that way for a majority for a lot
of different reasons. When you don't have voter ID laws,
you have mass mail in ballots, millions and millions of
ballots cast everywhere, and everything else that we've been chronicling.
If you don't subject people to the law where those
statutory legal standards for observation of ballots were not met

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in all the states that matter in this election, you
have reason to believe if the law is not followed,
it is unfair. Or if you have either the judiciary
or a governor just decide to extend the acceptance of ballots,
which is the pending case before the Supreme Court, in Pennsylvania.
You have every right not to think that this is fair,

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because it's not fair. And then when you get into
a deeper dive, you should be even more alarmed. Now,
Senator Ted Cruz, he demanded an investigation. You've heard about
this dominion company, this dominion voting systems company that wrongly
gave Remember we had on this woman. Let me play

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for you. She was on this program. She gave a
press conference head of the GOP in Michigan. Dominion software
used in the six thousand vote glitch in one county
in Michigan. Over forty counties in Michigan happened to use
dominion software. John Solomon discovered twenty eight states actually used
the same software. And then, way do you hear what

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the Secretary of State had to say in the state
of Texas about looking into dominion software for that state
and why they rejected it only one year ago. Listen,
if all this wasn't enough, in Antrim County, ballots were
counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a
six thousand vote swing against our candidates. The county clear

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came forward and said tabulating software glitched and caused a
miscalculation of the boats. Since then, we have now discovered
that forty seven counties use this same software in the
same capacity Antrim County had to hand count all of
the ballots, and these counties that use this software need

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to closely examine their result for similar discrepancies. The people
of Michigan deserved a transparent and open process. That's what
every American should want at the end of the day.
Put aside the personalities on this electa put Biden in

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Trump for a second, that's not it. You know, if
you go back and you think about did Democrats really
care about Russian interference in twenty sixteen? They only care
about nailing Donald Trump and delegitimizing him, making it, you know,
questioning the legitimacy of his win, his mandate that he

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wanted and became president. Because when the dirty Russian disinformation
dossier came out, I don't know hardly anyone besides us
that called that out, and we hammered away at it
for three long years, and everything that we said that
we found ahead of everybody else turned out to be
accurate and true. They didn't care about whether Russia interfered.

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They only cared if they could bludgeon Donald Trump with it,
just like with you know, quid pro quos and hearsay whistleblowers.
They don't care about whistle blowers because we'd gotten out
hundreds of people signing affidavits about what they witnessed in
terms of well, I was a partisan observer the losses
I can observe. They didn't let me observe nobody's being

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put on these other fake news networks and big tank
companies or even censoring anybody from saying it on social media.
This is how insane this is getting. So yeah, I
think the report, which we're going to go through in
a little while shows, Wow, their key conclusions were absolutely accurate. Now,
so we've heard a lot about this system glitch. I
don't even call it a glitch, it's a it's a

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programming system, all right. And so the Texas Secretary of
State this goes back November fourth, twenty nineteen, one year
and a day from this past election. That's it a
year ago. And what they did is they did a
report examinate an examination which took place in October second

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and third, twenty nineteen in the office of the Texas
Secretary of State at the James E. Rutter Building anyway,
and during this the examiners appointed by the Texas Secretary
of State and the Texas Attorney General examined Democracy Suite
five point five A. That's their system. It's a voting
system that was presented by Dominion Voting System for the

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certification in Texas. The following hardware and software components were examined.
They listed, and then they have some background. Dominion Voting
Systems previously sought certification in Texas and their five point
five voting system in January twenty nineteen. That certification was denied.
The voting system was the subject of an examination. They

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come back with five point five A. They basically I
assume they're saying that we fixed it and was certified
by the US Election Assistance Commission on January thirtieth, twenty nineteen.
Now they did their examination October of twenty nineteen. The
first day of the exam involved the installation of the
software and firmware from Democracy Suite five point five A

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using the Trust Trusted build provided to our office by
the testing lab. During the installation of the adjudication software
on the EMS server, the installation failed multiple times. As
a result the system needed to be fully wiped and
required a full reinstallation of all EMS software, including a

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Windows operating system. They'll go back to basics. The installation
failed again on the first attempt after the full reinstallation,
but succeeded on the second attempt. Before the beginning of
the vendor presentation. On the second day of the exam,
I conducted the accessibility testing and tested the visually impaired functions,

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the sip and puff controller and the paddle controller. The
system performed well during the accessibility testing and presented no issues.
On the second day of the exam, the vendor provided
a presentation of the software and the updates involved in
the current version that they were presenting five point five A,
in other words, and noted that the only difference between

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the one that they denied in January and the one
they have in June was an update to instructions relating
to a straight party voting on some computer term. Here.
No other changes from Democracy five point five were included
in the update of five point five A. All Right,
it goes on. After the vendor presentation, the examiners tested
the equipment by voting a series of test ballots compared

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the results of those test ballots. The examiners also conducted
additional testing of various components of the system. I know
this is hard. Reading is hard on radio. Stay with me.
The standards for a voting system in Texas are outlined
in Texas Election Code one twenty two. Specifically, the system
may only be certified for use in Texas if it

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satisfied each of an enumerated list of requirements contained in
Texas Election Code. They labeled a code. Because the system
does not satisfy each of those requirements, I would recommend
against certification of the system. And the examination of Democracy
Suite five point five that took place in January twenty nineteen,

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myself and other examiners noted a number of issues that
led us led to each of us recommending that certification
for that system be denied. The system that we reviewed
in these examination, Democracy Suite five point five A, did
not contain any changes that addressed the issues identified and

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those examiner reports. The system that we reviewed in this
examination was certified by the EAC on January thirtieth, twenty nineteen,
which was approximately two weeks before our examiner reports from
the previous examination were completed. February sixteen, twenty nineteen. Therefore,
it is impossible for this system to have addressed any

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issues in response to the issues raised in those examiner reports,
because this version was finalized and certified by the EAC
before those reports were ever published. And it goes on.
Some of the issues that we encountered in the previous
exam could be attributed to errors and presentation or configuration
in the previous exam that we're not reproduced in this exam.

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The issue with the image quality generated in the previous
exam did not occur in this exam. Bender indicated the
issue occurred in a previous exam may have been by
damage that the device and transit or an used. Here's
the bottom line. I can keep going. I'll give you
more highlights. They rejected it. Then you have a problem

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in Michigan. It was used in forty seven of the
eighty some odd counties of Michigan. Then you have the
six thousand votes. Switch. Now, I'm not one that's pollyannish
or to bring false hope. I just want a full accounting.
We know laws were not or violated. We know that
a partisan observers by statutory mandate are allowed to watch

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the whole counting process. We know that didn't happen. We know,
and we have all these affidavits now that are accumulating
in every state, we have these lawsuits. We know the
statutory deadline was, I would argue, very clearly unconstitutionally extended
in Pennsylvania. What good is it if the American people

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If you feel this election was unfair, Well, if you
don't follow the laws, it's unfair. Proving fraud. When people
sign an ALFA David under the threat of perjury and
going to jail, that's pretty compelling to me. Now, if
you have five or ten people, yeah, I don't know.

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If you have two hundred and thirty four and one
county in Detroit, that's a lot of people. When you
have laws that say you have open transparency for the
public to even look in, and then you have people
covering up the windows, that's a problem too. But the
saddest part is is there's one party that doesn't want

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voter id laws. There's one party that wants mass mail
in ballots that even the New York Times says is
way more susceptible to fraud. One party that only cares
about the outcome only one party only cared about Trump
and Russia. One party only cared about Trump and a
potential quid pro quel when ignored the real one, one

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party aided and embedded by a corrupt mob and now
by big tech. A lot more coming eight hundred nine
four one Sean, And we have some experts that are
going to weigh in on this today with their thoughts
on it. All right, twenty five till the top of
the hour news information. The mob the media will never
give you, you know. It's it's why we do things

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our way and we try to get to the bottom
of things. It's the mob of the media could do this.
They don't want to do this. They just want to
just wave there. We want, we want it's over. The
same people that never accepted Donald Trump as president for
four years lie to you for three of the four years,
four separate investigations, all proving there was no evidence of

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any Trump Russia collusion. But did they care about Russia. No,
they did not. They didn't care because we had a
dirty Russian dossier that Hillary bought. They never said a word.
The mob, the media protected Hillary Clinton Ukraine. Well, there's
a phone call. We have a hearsay whistle blower, only

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one fact witness, what the one fact witness say. Short
of the hearsay whistle whistleblowers and hearsay witnesses and opinion witnesses,
what they say. No, it doesn't matter what they say.
But then you got Joe on tape, you got six hours.
You're not getting a billion dollars unless you fire that
prosecutor we learned was investigating zero experience Hunter. They didn't care.

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They don't care about Oh, the integrity. This is outrageous.
It's all feigned, phony, selective moral outrage. So for us,
you know, the seventy one and a half million people whatever,
the seventy two million. I looked at the latest numbers
that went out and wanted Donald Trump to be elected

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president again. We deserve answers, and we better get the answers.
You know, this whole system, they go through this whole
litany in this out of Texas and when they rejected dominions,
you know, voting systems. Of why they did it. The
STEM the system required a technician to manually install every

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component of the system, including individual system fonds, at a
very specific order. The designer of the installer makes this
a fairly confusing process for the technician. They give examples.
One point, the technician is required to install the second
item on the install list and the first, then the
third for the system, and that exact sequence for the

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installation to function properly. It's a questionable design choice that
is indicative of several similar choices that creates unnecessary complications
that are likely to confuse users and result in incorrect
installation of system components. This is one year ago Texas

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rejecting dominion voting systems. Pretty interesting. So you know, one
of the great things about and I'm not the computer genius,
I'm not, Senator Cruz rightly said there should be an
investigation of the voting machine system that wrongly gave a
county to Joe Biden. And I think that is don't

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don't do they not want free, fair elections that people
believe have integrity and they can have competence and then
the result. And if you feel that this is all
fundamentally unfair, you are right to feel that way, because
that's how I feel, because not because of me, but
how could you have competence in this? You know, you

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go back and this is where you know and Apparently,
by the way, there's there's talk that there might be
some whistleblowers coming out, and we want to know what
they have to say. I understand Georgia just accepted this
for all one hundred and fifty nine counties that they
have this whole dominion software system. Okay, let's see. Does
it mean anything to Ferius happen Nope? Does it raise

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questions in light of what Texas had decided a year ago? Yes?
Does it raise questions based on what Laura Cox told
us happen to Michigan, Absolutely, But in twenty nineteen, the
Texas Secretary of State, we have the entire report right
in front of us. They were denied on two separate occasions.
A test conducted January sixteenth and seventeenth to twenty nineteen

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on Democracy Suite five point five, which the website notes
was denied in June of twenty nineteen. Then they came
up with an updated system that they said really wasn't
updated five point five A, which the website notes was
denied as its current status and has noted. The Democracy
Suite five point five A system is an updated version

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of their five point five system, which was denied just
months earlier. By the way, it was also rejected. In
twenty thirteen, another dominion system presented to the Texas Secretary
of State office. By the way, anyone had any questions
about the voting integrity in Texas? Nope? Anyone have it

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In Florida, Nope. Two time zones, a higher elderly percentage
of the population, higher population. They got it done and
we had the results like an hour later. We knew
it was over what the results were after the election
was finished. Like so many other states, they get it
done and get it done right. You know, the American

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people have to have integrity in their system, you know,
dominion voting systems, and the thousands of election customers across
the nation are committed, they say to ensuring voter confidence. Well, okay,
you know, what do you want me to say to that?
I don't really have confidence reading what I'm reading. Why
did one state a year ago say no, no, thank you?

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You know, and then you go back to some important
questions here. Why is it there is this fierce resistance
think about this to voter id Now, I'll give you
an example. Democrats, if all the years that I've gone
a democratic national conventions, I know it's hell. It's not

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call it Hell week, but I do it because I
love you in this audience. And we do our radio
show from there, we do our TV show from there,
and we go to you know, do our job. But
to get into the Democratic National Committee thing, I need
a photo ID. I need to have clearance ahead of time,
and then I have to go through a metal detector

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and then I usually get wanted. They say hi, mister Hannity,
and then they start wanding, and then they checked my
ID and then I walked through the metal detector and
then they let me in and I'm surrounded by fifty people,
which is the weirdest experience because I don't live my
life like that anyway. So, you know, there was a
great piece where it was I guess it was on
the Blaze. I don't know who wrote it, and I

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apologize I'm not. You know, we always like to give attribution.
Nine laws Republicans better pass if they want to end
all voter fraud. One issue of voter ID to all
registered voters. What party is against that? We already know
the answer. Prohibit mail in ballots for federal elections. Why
did the Democrats want to send out millions of ballots

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that in some cases weren't even requested. We have a
system for absentee ballots. We have a signature matching system
and signature verification system. This was what bothered me with
the lawsuit in Georgia. And I don't know why the
Secretary of State agreed to a settlement that allowed to
separate systems not exactly equal justice in the great State

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of Georgia, whereby everybody the voted same day, their signature
verification went through one system. But they made an accommodation
after a lawsuit from the Georgia Democratic Party, the Democratic
Senatorial campaign Committee, congressional campaign committees, and they said, well,
whoever files for a mail in ballot, as long as
the application matches what's on the ballot, that would suffice

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and it wouldn't be run through the same system as
the rest of the people of Georgia, the voted in person.
Doesn't exactly sound equal unfair, does it? Anyway? If you don't,
if you allow the millions of ballots to be set
out the New York Times, I'll quote them, they're the
ones you increase substantially the potential for fraud. Absentee balloting
should be limited to individuals who cannot legitimately vote in person.

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We can do that, We've proven we can do that
and do that with integrity and confidence. Ballot harvesting, yeah,
I would say that has to be banned. In other words,
nursing homes similar institutions can be exempted from the prohibition.
But there's got to be a check in balance. And
just like you're allowed partisan observers that are legally allowed
to watch the vote from start to finish, I think

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all guards. I think you need to guard every single
drop off box twenty four seven. I think you have
to have partisans with the ballots from the minute they
are received until the minute that they are accounted, to
the minute that they are stored, and while they're stored
in case there's a recount. You want integrity in voting.
That's what I would do. Early voting, Why are we

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voting early when we don't have it? Even have a
final debate in why are we voting early when we
don't see what? Remember, George George Bush, I guess that
the dui allegation came out and the weekend before the
election in two thousand, Well, what about it? If there's
one hundred million people already voted. They would vote without

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that knowledge. I don't think we should have early voting
six weeks, four weeks, three weeks, two weeks. You know,
what about authorizing the proof of citizenship to vote, because
we know in a lot of states and sanctuary states
and cities people can get driver's license. Is that are legal?
Does that mean that they could use that as idd

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they didn't get signed up to vote when they're not
legally a citizen. What about these motor voter laws that
Democrats have wanted, or requiring body cameras on vote counters
and processors. By the way, the counts that have been
going on in Arizona, they film the whole thing. You
can watch it online. Good for them, Good for Arizona

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for doing it, whether it regardless how it comes out.
Interesting that Biden's apparently new chief of staff, the same
genius that said we did everything wrong with H one
n one literally you know, has said that elections are
routinely rigged. Oh, the new chief of staff at Joe

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Biden said that, you know. Back in twenty four teen,
Vox published an article based on a finding from a
Rasmus and poll with the headline, sixty eight percent of
Americans think elections are rigged. That's because they are. He said, Wow,
I guess he agrees with Donald Trump. But the question
you also have to ask yourself, as Alfi davits now

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are being filed because it takes a long time, and
you know that's under the threat of perjury. That's pretty
compelling to me. Does it guarantee legitimacy? No, But if
you have three people, that's one story. You have three
hundred people, now we got a whole different story. Or
we have two hundred and thirty four people signed legal
affidavits under the threat of perjury. That's pretty compelling to me.

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And what did they say in this September twenty third,
twenty twenty report Jim Jordan's Judiciary Committee. They said Democrats
refuse to clean up outdated, inaccurate voter registration roles creates
serious problems. And we're listing all the dead people we're
finding as we find them. The vote in this election.
I love people one hundred and twenty years old voting amazing.

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And then you have, contrary to Democratic claims, an abundant
of evidence of mail in election crimes and administrative errors well,
they're just agreeing with the New York Times on that.
And mail in ballots for the November elections is a
reason the Democrats wanted the chaos that they'd even withhold
funding for COVID nineteen relief. That's when the first bill

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was being passed for businesses and Americans. Why would they?
Why are they hold up funding for Americans to change
voting laws because they knew it would benefit them when
the election came up. I guess they're a lot better
at this than Republicans are. Some states have mail in
ballot request deadlines that make it logistically unlikely that votes

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will be received in time to be counted. You know,
I know the state legislatures are responsible for this, but
we've got to be very careful here. We have to
have some standard so that at the end of the process,
the American people believe in its integrity. The American people
believe and have confidence in the results that it's real.

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And by the way, to get lectured by the mob
and the media or big tech or Democrats after the
way they've behaved the last five years is beyond insulting
if you want to know the truth. Anyway, they increase
in mail in voting. Look before the last debate, how
many people have voted before? At least seventy seventy five
million people. A lot happened in that second debate, very

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different debate. Contrary to Democratic claims recent examples of voter
election crimes, we've chronicled all of that in the lead
up to this election. Mail in voting will suffer from
an inaccurate, outdated voter registration roles. Why can't we clean
them up? Why aren't we committed to cleaning it up?
Why wouldn't Democrats want to clean them up? Mail and

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voting suffer from unaccounted for missing ballots. Why don't we
have people partisans on both sides watching it from the
minute it arrived, So watching these drop off centers so
people can't come and backload a truck with a million,
you know, votes in it for crying out loud? All right,
a lot coming up. We have our computer experts, James
O'Keefe an update on this case in Pennsylvania and others

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are much much more. Eight hundred nine for one, Sean, Oh,
I got another minute, all right, quickly? Oh, let's say
how to lamar South Carolina? A minute for you? Lamar,
how's that I've got my timing almost ump. Yeah, Sean,
just wanted to see if you thought that we can
have reasonable confidence in the integrity of these audits, if

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there's going to be, you know, bipartisan oversight of these
audits themselves, you know, is the audit a fair process?
I mean, all right, let's take for example, the election
laws that allow partisan observers that you know, all these
people that you've seen and heard saying that they weren't
allowed to observe. Okay, all right, they weren't allowed to

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observe then the votes accounted, Okay, was anything what happened
in the interim, what was going on when they couldn't
see or they were kept away. It's still you know,
at that point, you never recapture the one moment an
opportunity to have the faith, trust, integrity and confidence that
we should all have. You with us, Sat one hundred
nine four one. Sean, you want to be a part

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of the program. We're gonna have a whole new pile
a bit of information tonight as it relates to Yeah,
a lot more affidavit signed by real people telling what
they really saw that that shouldn't be happening during our
election process, you know, were the very strange and very
bizarre if you will, even will project Veritas and James o'keef.

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We're gonna get to James in a second. Here this
case of Richard Hopkins, United States Postal Service whistle blower. Okay,
what did he say? Yeah, I've heard the guys talking
about changing the postmarks of the election. Huh. And then
all of a sudden, the Feds start interrogating him, and
that tape now has come out. Then the Washington Post

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writes a piece saying he recants his story, that's what
they said. And then it's like then he goes back
and he says, no, I never recanted anyway. So and
they're putting, well, we put those pressure on you and
all this other stuff that we've been playing here, I
am trying to twist you. I'm scaring you here. I'm like,
it's so bizarre. Why would investigators be trying to scare somebody.

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I thought we gave great respect and put on a
pedestal whistleblowers. I thought Democrats did anyway. So the federal
investigator is you know, this storm is gonna get crazy, right,
It's a lot of people's out of thee a lot
of people's control, and the reason they called me is
to try and harness that swarm and to reel it
back in before it gets really crazy. Federal investigators saying,

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I'm actually trying to twist you a little bit because
in that believe it or not, your mind will kick in.
Was his mind kicked out? Did his mind go on
vacation and we didn't know about it? And uh, you know,
I'm scaring you here. You know, if we're not a
thousand percent accurate with our honesty, and they can be

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argued that money was gained by and I'm gonna say assumptions,
they're gonna say deceptions. I believe you. I believe you.
You know in this corner anyway, I want to just
play for you the the Inspector General of the Postal Service,
suggesting that he was embellishing his story. Listen, what I've

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gone through and what I sort of did my little
research on whatnot is my interpretation? This is me being
upfront with you, not me putting you on the hotspot,
but just me putting up front with you. Is you
have valid reasons for your emotions. I think you're and
I are going to find out that we are pretty

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similar on some things. Okay, But beyond the core, I
don't want to say this because I don't want to
insolve you. But I'm just going to insolve you and
then we'll deal with it later. Okay, beyond the core,
there may have been a little indulphment, and I just
want to make sure that there hasn't been, and I
just want to make sure if there is, we get

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rid of that right now so that anything that goes
on after this, like I said, is you're standing on
sOliver Fairer. You understand where I'm coming from you, Okay. Now,
that is the United States Postal Service Investor Inspector General
admitting to Richard Hopkins that he's trying to twist his

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arm a little bit and all that I said. Anyway,
here if we had an update on it, is James O'Keefe.
He's the founder of CEO Project Veritas. And then the
Washington Post said he recanted, and then he said to you,
James that he didn't recan't. Why would they be ussuring
him and twisting his arm? Now, if he's lying to
a federal agent, that in and of itself is a crime,
isn't it? It is, Sean. But the reason why they're

(33:10):
trying to do that is because this federal agent, Russell Strasser,
is the fixer. He's got a Twitter account which he's
now taken down, and he was a very anti Trump
and he admits here he says the Department of Justice
is involved. Senators involved. Senator Lindsay Graham cited this whistleblower's
Affidavid in Pennsylvania, saying they were back dating ballots from

(33:31):
the fourth to the third. Richard Hopkins, the letter carrier,
overheard the postmaster instruct the supervisor regarding this. We've had
a couple of different people say this is happening in
Michigan and Pennsylvania. So this fixer, this federal agent, Russell Strasser,
spends four hours in a room with Richard Hopkins. Richard

(33:51):
Hopkins is a normal guy. He's from Erie, Pennsylvania. He
never asked to go public, and they've intimidated him. And
this is an extraordinary recording because you never really hear
something like this. But Richard recorded it on his phone
and gave it to Project Ritas. The inspectors interrogated Hopkins
knew better, but refused to let him speak with his attorneys,

(34:13):
didn't really let him leave, and they didn't give him
a copy of what he was forced to sign. Sean,
we don't even know what he signed. But we do
know is that Hopkins has doubled down and said repeatedly
that he did hear these ballots being backdated in Erie, Pennsylvania.
This is an unbelievable story to me. Now, I want
to set this up the right way here. Now, this

(34:33):
is two whistleblowers you found in the Postal Service Michigan
and Pennsylvania. Now we have another Pennsylvania Postal Service worker
whistleblower stepping forward with a story of political bias. I'll
let you set it up. Well. This one is eminently
to be released. It's being released any minute. And this
is a man in the Philadelphia suburbs who is saying

(34:58):
that he overheard his boss saying that all political mail
for Biden should continue to be delivered, but mail political
mail for Trump will not be delivered. It will be
undeliverable bulk business mail. And this is pretty shocking stuff.
This guy is speaking in the shadows, but he said

(35:20):
that thirty people in his office overheard this order being given.
So sean. We went out and talked to many of
those folks. We've called the postmaster, and this tape will
go out any minute from now. So there's actually sean
three whistleblowers from Pennsylvania. Richard Hopkins is the only one
that has gone public. There's another individual who corroborated the

(35:42):
vouts are being backdated. But the greater issue here is
that all of the federal agencies tasked with actually uncovering
the Inspector General doing all the all they do is
cover it up and attack the whistleblower. They have no
interest in getting the fraud. And this man, Richard Strass
or the investigator, has said that his job is to

(36:03):
quote wheel this back in before it gets crazy because
we have senators involved, unquote that's what he says. So
he's not interested in exposing voter fraud. They don't want
to find fraud. They want to reinforce the narrative that
fraud is not possible. So this is really Orwellian. This
is out of the George Orwell myself. No, I thought
whistle blowers were Even if your hearsay whistle blower, it
will be put on pedestals. Now you've exclusive exclusively. Now

(36:26):
you've given some of this to us, and I'm going
to hear it for the first time. Yes, it's literally
being released as you speak. I'll send it to your
producer here as I'm on the phone with you. It's
being released right now. So we have a new whistle
blower saying that they were told to only deliver Biden
mail and treat it as first class mail and workers
be an asked that they were told to only deliver this. Listen,

(36:49):
you you're a letter carrier, tell me what your boss
told you on November nine, Bill be that of the
winner UM in this case, UM Joe Biden. Other political
mail from other sources to consentators will be put to
the undeliverable bulk prisiness mail then or EBDM. Why did

(37:14):
Walter Lee instruct postal workers to discard trunk and Republican
mail is undeliverable. I'm not sure if that came from
higher roll. Well man, did Walter Lee tell you to
keep delivering Biden mail or political mail? UM? For Biden
was to be continued to be treated as first class
and revators. You see what happens to the undeliverable bulk

(37:37):
business mail. UM I believe it goes back to the plan,
but you unliver business mail is essentially it's a step
away from the partage. Do you think that the United
States Postal Service should be playing politics? No? I think
that we're abrew service and that's not really our place.
That seems to be that once they decided that there

(37:58):
was a victor in the election, there's would there have
been anybody else that would have overheard this? Possibly that
was Monday this week? And how many people working and
how many people are we talking about who overheard this?
If required, would you be willing to if it came

(38:18):
to it, would you testify under oath that this information
is true? Yeah? It takes a lot of courage to
come forward like this in the way that you're doing it.
What compelled you to do that? Basically? Do you know
lecture to come forward? Are you instructed by Walker to

(38:44):
this hard talking Republican? Now? Just can hammer away from
you right now? Everybody? No, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm oppressed. Were you given those instructions by Walker? Really harassing?
And if you keep following me, I'm going to call
the police for harassing. James O'Keefe. Wow, Yes, this is

(39:05):
this is this Elkins Park, Pennsylvania, which is a suburb
of Philadelphia, And the man's voice was disguised there, but
I looked at his badge. He is, in fact work
in that office. And he says that all political mail
for Biden was to be continued, but Trump mail was
not to be delivered, and that order was given to
him by his boss, and thirty of his colleagues overheard

(39:26):
that order. He did say, Sean, and he is willing
to go under oath if it came to it, and
it very well may. So this is a thing where
whistle blowers are coming public, and the entire press and
all of our federal agencies are trying to intimidate both me,
my organization and our whistle blowers. Now, this guy that
we just turned out on another in the shadows, but

(39:48):
you've verified who he is, and they know who he is.
It's you are right in saying that under these circumstances,
this political environment, this election, raise it then Margins Uh,
this then represents you know, a real threat to people.
And we've been hearing reports about that, especially with Richard Hopkins.

(40:11):
What's an update on that. Well, he's been he's been
he's been given death threats. He raised Richard Hopkins, you know,
had no desire to go public. He's a marine, he's
a veteran, he's a father, he has a four year
old daughter. He never asked to go public. We asked
him to go public, and he was very I don't
think these sorts of people, they're just people who live

(40:34):
their lives and try to live a normal life. They
don't they don't want the spot late, they don't. They're
just disgusted by what they're seeing. And he tentatively agreed
to it, and now he's stuck in this storm. But
he's gotten death threats. Shawn go fund me. He raised
one hundred and thirty thousand. Go fund He took his
page down so and then and then the Post Office
threatened him. His union is upseted him because they support Biden.

(40:57):
So I think it takes a tremendous amount of courage
to do this. And a lot of people are inspired
by Richard Hopkins example, including this Elkins Park was a
blower you just heard saying that they don't like shady stuff.
They want it to be exposed. And I believe Sean
there is going to be a lot more people coming forward.

(41:17):
It's just the problem is there's no place for them
to go. There's no mechanism that will support them, with
the exception of a few organizations, one of them being
Project Ratass. Unbelievable stuff. Stay right there will continue. On
the other side, James O'Keefe with us, I think this
can I ask one question before we go to break
quick answer? Why how did you get the tape of

(41:38):
the interrogation Richard Hopkins? No, you can add Richard Hopkins
recorded it because we told them they may retaliate against you,
so be aware of that. And he made the decision
to record those investigators putting pressure on him, and he
told me, James, I felt like I got played. That's
what he said about the interrogation. All right, more on

(41:58):
the other side, the eight hundred and nine one, Sean,
you want to be a part of this extravaganza. Listen,
I want to tell you about my pillow at my
pillow dot com. Look tough days, right, A lot of stress.
Everybody's worried about our country. You had the pandemic increasing,
although doctor Fauci interestingly said that the COVID pandemic is
almost over thanks to vaccine discoveries. All right, we continue

(42:19):
more with James o'keef eight hundred and nine one. Sean,
so you actually told Richard Hopkins, Yeah, the feds are
looking into this. You better, you better record this because
you're gonna need it. And he did do it. We
didn't tell him to record the federal agents were. We
told him to record who was retaliated by his post
office because Sean, when he went public, like an hour later,

(42:42):
some incident from years ago they brought back up. It
looked like it looked like they were looking for a
reason to retaliate against him. But that doesn't surprise you
or your audience. But it is sad in our society.
How how the exposure of the corruption is worse as
a worse problem than the corruption itself, and we have
to the reaction. So he's on unpaid leave right now, Sean.

(43:03):
USPS has sent him a letter saying don't show back
up to work, and they're they're upset at him for
having a go fund me page. But of course, how
are you supposed to feed your daughter and have any
money if you're if you're terminated from your job. Do
you imagine if the hearsay whistle blower on the Ukraine
issue and the phone call with Solinski where we only

(43:24):
had one fact witness who said the President said he
wants nothing. That whistleblower retreated this way. No, I mean,
this is skin in the game. The guy's going on
the record and I was attacked by CNN and Washington Post.
We're saying our sources, Sean. I have the recording of
the two federal agent speaking with Richard, So would they
say their sources. I mean, I don't know who these

(43:45):
sources are, sock puppets or where they get their information from.
But I have the guy on the record in a
chair saying what he saw doubling down losing his job,
and I've got other people coming forward. So I think
we just have to deal with this state of play
in our country where the only people that are going
to solve the problems are the normal people with jobs
like at the post office or in the government, who

(44:07):
are willing to have skin in the game and testify
to what they see. This new person, Sewan from Elkins Park,
who says that the USPS supervisor, Walter Lee, instructed him
not to deliver Trump mail. If this person is saying
I will go under oath to testify this is true.
So that's news. That's important, and I'm sure there's many
other people that will come forward to Veritas tips at

(44:28):
ProtonMail dot com. Inspired by both Richard and this Elkins
Park was a blow. I don't know. I mean, if
they're going to intimidate this guy and then put them off,
you know, work without pay, and you know, I'm listening
to this inspector general who apparently they tried to clean
his Twitter account that was anti Trump. Yes, he was
anti Trump. He was very captured him. Yes, I captured him.

(44:51):
He deleted his account well a little late. Now tweets
exist in perpetuity. All right, James O'Keefe, thank you. One,
we come back. We'll talk about integrities of elections with
Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. Straight ahead, all right, glad
you with us twenty five till the top of the hour,
eight hundred and nine four one. Sean, you want to

(45:13):
be a part of this extravaganza. Amazing developments as it
relates to this dominion software issue in the Secretary of
State of Texas analysis twenty nineteen is unbelievable anyway, Senator
Ron Johnson Wisconsin is here with us after reports about
this Postal Service whistleblower Richard Hopkins, and of course the

(45:37):
alleged mouthfeasance, by the way, not the only one in
an Erie, Pennsylvania post office. Anyway, between that in details
of observers. Remember all these states have laws. Okay, they're
election laws. Okay, it's in the text of the law
that people that partisan observers have a right to watch

(45:57):
the entire process and stay. It's like Wisconsin and Michigan.
They even opened it up to the entire public to see,
although partisan observers have the you know, obviously a closer look. Anyway,
here are details that emerge from observers being prevented from
doing what they're legally allowed to do. Listen, official came

(46:20):
out who was kind and access to sign documents, and
a few moments later we were asked to leave. Well,
I finally reminded we were asked to leave within ten
to twelve minutes, when this had an hour and a
half kind of left to do it for further away
than I am from you all here hundreds at least
one hundred feet away from open ballots that go back

(46:41):
out of our site. We can't see them. We don't
know what's happening to them. It's just there's no way
for us to meaningfully observe the process. They have refused
to let us have meaningful and meaningful view of the
vote count. They have continued to count the votes because
because they have done nothing to help us, they are

(47:01):
not letting every legal vote count. All right, I mean,
these are people that are by the way, and this
is now what's happening in all of these important swing states.
Razar Thin Margins is people are coming out and by
the way, they're signing all these affidavits. I don't know
if I don't know about you, but I wouldn't sign
an affidavit under the threat of perjury and going to
jail for anything. You just don't do it. Unless you're

(47:25):
a Democrat. You get away with everything anyway. Senator Ron
Johnson is here with us. He's the chairman of the
US Senate Committee Legislative Jurisdiction over the Postal Office. This
is now in two states, one Michigan, one in Pennsylvania.
Your thoughts on all this, Well, first of all, it's
a surprise no one we had a whistleblower come forward

(47:46):
after twenty sixteen election, and you know, the Office Special Council,
the Offin Inspector General. I talked about systemic violations of
a hatch aft. You know, Hilly Clinton campaign was just
asking the poster of workers un into give these people
time off and then the campaign would pay them to
do campaign work. And again that was judged be a
systemic violation of a hatchack being perpetrated since like the

(48:11):
nineteen nineties. So this really should surprise no and Sean.
The question I would ask is why wouldn't you let
people observe the counting? Why? Why? Why are Democrats opposed
to voter ID you know, why do they want to
push all this mail in balloting which is obviously more
prone to fraud. The question is pretty obvious, isn't isn't

(48:31):
Why Why didn't Vice President Biden come out immediately on
election night and say I want all of Democrat controlled
polling places. I want them to let Republican observers observe
the vote so the American people have confidence that this
is a legitimate election. He didn't do that, did he?
The answer, there's only one answer is they want to
commit fraud. They want to be able to get away

(48:51):
with it, and it's it's pretty hard to catch it
when you can observe it, you know. And what I
don't understand here, and I think I was the first
to bring up all of the different laws all the
different states. And I'll be honest, even your state. I
didn't know that it was a statutory requirement that partisan
observers have the right from start to finish to watch
the counting of the ballots. Now, you know, some people

(49:12):
might say, all right, well, you can't see anything from
one hundred feet away, you can't see anything from twenty
feet away, and okay, if we need social distancing protocols,
I'm fine with that. But they that consideration should have
been made because you can't see anything from six feet away.
Maybe you have X ray vision. I don't know, Senator,
I can't. No. I think what we'll see is just

(49:32):
systemic violations of election law that courts, you know, state
courts just kind of look the other way because they
are populated by judges sometimes in democratic districts that are
democrats and they're partisan, and so they look the other way.
They allow that these hijinks to occur. And again once
the vote is cast, once the ballot is put in
the pile, it's pretty hard to remedy the situation, which

(49:55):
is why they continue to do it. So. But what
drives me nuts to the mainstream media, there's there's no
covers are fraud. There's all kinds of evidence of fraud
going back decades. The question is is it significant? Significant
enough tracks the overturning election. But again, if you get
away with it and the bouts are put in there,
it's very hard to remedy the situation, which is why

(50:16):
at a minimum, at a minimum, we've got to track
down all these allegations. We need to investigate them, we
need to audit them, and at a bare minimum, regardless
of the result, we need to lobby hard for election
reform to make sure that every vote is legitimate. You know,
let's say so we all want every legitimate vote to count, right,
but Republicans, this is where we did from Democrats. We

(50:37):
want to make sure that every vote is legitimate. Democrats
don't think that way. You see the fact that now
I know true the votes. Some other groups you know,
have have picked up on this. Some of the lawsuits
are now picking up on this. But the bottom line is,
all right, what we have here and poles are showing
this is you don't have a majority of people that
have confidence in the results of the election. That is

(51:00):
a serious problem. For example, Senator, do you have confidence
in the results of Ohio? Do you have confidence in
the results of Florida? I do you know? We have
some states still counting votes today. Okay, it is Thursday.
The election was a week ago Tuesday. And you know
the fact that you know, you can call a state
of Florida, which by the way, had its problems in

(51:22):
twenty sixteen and had its problems in two thousand, but
they fix the problems and there's ways to do it.
But I will tell you the other thing is why
is it that I need a voter ID a picture
ID to get into a Democratic national convention. But Democrats
are pushing no voter ID laws. I mean, why would

(51:42):
you not want to ensure that the process that people
can have confidence in at the end of the day,
Because I don't really you know, for the American people
right now is that they believe that this election was unfair,
and it was unfair. They're not wrong in their characterization.
And then now you've got to quote prove fraud. Well,
I don't know. Affidavits are pretty compelling to me. Some

(52:06):
of the comments about these voting machines scare me. You
heard the report in Michigan. How do you ever get
to the bottom of it? How do you remedy if
observers couldn't observe when it actually mattered, when when the
counting was happening. You can't. You can't put that genie
back in the bottle from my perspective, unless you have
a better view. No, And the answer your question is

(52:26):
why why wouldn't you do put all these controls and
to get people confidence that the voting is accurate and
it's legitimate. It's because you want to cheat and you
want to get away with cheating. In Wisconsin, for example,
you talked about voter ID. We have voter ID five
Democrats in those in Dane, in Milwaukee County, they encourage
people to because of COVID say that they're indefinitely confined.

(52:47):
So there's there's a loophole in the loff you're in
definitely confined that that should be for handicapped people. You
don't have to provide IDs, you don't have to prove
your ID. And you combine that with the fact that
Democrats want to court repeat, they repeatedly lost. They finally
found a judge that allowed it. So he got more
than two hundred thousand voters on our registration rolls that

(53:07):
should have been removed. So he got a couple hundred
thousand all of a sudden, indefinitely confined individuals to do
not to show voter ID, and he got more than
two hundred thousand voters that shouldn't be on the voter rolls.
I mean, you're just setting yourself up for fraud. And
it is a very sad state of affairs shown. You're
exactly right when the American public, no matter who ends

(53:28):
the other half, doesn't believe it's a legitimity lecture. That's
a really sad state affairs. And it's because of Democrats.
It is their fault. They're the ones that keep pushing
the limit, keep looking to state courts to just change
the laws or had and look at the state legislatures.
And of course it's really galling when they accused President
Trump of being a sore loser, when they never gave
him a peaceful transition, they never viewed as a legitimate

(53:51):
president that they tried to impeach him, They tried to
engage in a coup. There was a sabotage against his
administration from the day after election. It's just to listen
to Democrats now carpet at President Trump. How are the
people in Wisconsin? Because I look at Wisconsin as like
salt of the earth. You know, this is the heart
and soul of America, hard working people, great Americans. Really

(54:14):
what makes America great? Arts people? How are they reacting
to all this? Well? First, first of all, let me
just comment on the people to go to Trump rallies.
I was privileged to go to a number of them
in the last final weeks. The one characteristic that everybody
those Trump rallies has in comics that maybe the mainstream
media in the back there. They love America. They love America,

(54:35):
and in addition to that, they love Donald Trump, and
so they love and they love their Green Bay Packers.
Right for sure, they absolutely do. Okay, but because they
love America, because they love Donald Trump. When they see
what the Democrats have tried to do, you know, how
they're not making this transparent process process, how they're pushing
the envelope to make it easier for fraud. They're suspicious

(54:56):
and every right to be suspicious, particularly when Democrats Joe
Biden sets up the office of the president elect. He's
not president elect, he's nothing, he has nothing to celebrate.
Yet we need to play this process out. The president
has to be given every opportunity to track down these irregularities,
audit them. U That's that is the way the system

(55:16):
out to work. You know, it's interesting even Jonathan Turley,
I think agrees with a lot of you, a lot
of what you're saying. What do we do now? How
do we handle this now? Um, as we go through
this process, and if, for example, if you can't go
back and get the observers to observe, you got to
go to the court to even you know, statutory deadlines

(55:39):
just randomly extended by a court, which is so unconstitutional.
You don't have to bring a Harvard law school graduate
to figure that out. Then you have to purge all
these these you know, voting roles of dead people. A
lot of dead people voted. Did you know that, Senator,
A lot of dead people? Yea, d Yeah. You know
what Trump support won't do. We won't take the streets

(56:02):
and riot. I think we all found out now why
these storefronts in urban areas put plywood on there in
front of their glasses because it wasn't because of Joe Biden. Win. Okay,
so we won't do that. But what we will do
is we will adhere to the row of law. And
the President should be given every opportunity to file lawsuits
and let the courts decide. And if the courts decide

(56:22):
that there's been illegal activity, if there are votes that
are you know, simply illegal. I know in Wisconsin what
they do is if there's sixty thousand illegal votes, they
just pull sixty thousand illegal votes out of the hopper
and they throw them away. It seems like a pretty
blunt instrument. That is the actual the rema, that is
actually the remedy, and it's we at case law. That's
what they do. And I heard that there's something being

(56:43):
investigated in terms of some illegality in Wisconsin. I think
you know what I'm talking about. Is that real? I
believe it is. Yes, you've got you've kind of got
to let the legal issue right and before you can
claim it. But yeah, I think there's some activity there
all right. Now, a senator, we really appreciate you being
one of us. I know, you've been working hard. By
the way, I would like to see the investigations from

(57:05):
the report that you and Senator Grassly put out go forward.
I hope that happens as well. I'm very tenacious, Sean.
I think the American people deserve the truth. I'm dedicated
to uncovering it and revealing it. All right, Senator, we
appreciate it. Senator Ron Johnson, the great state of Wisconsin
eight hundred and ninety four one, sewn you want to
be a part of the program, right, Let's grab a
quick call here. I know so many of you feel

(57:27):
so furious about this. We'll go to Pennsylvania. Laura's standing
by Laura. Hi, how are you glad you called him?
All right, Sean, how are you doing? I'm disappointed, angry,
I've got a lot of feelings in running through my body,
emotions running the gamut here. But you know, also very
committed to getting to the truth exactly. And that's why

(57:48):
I wanted to tell your listeners today that you know,
they need to understand that they can call their state congressmen.
We don't have to take this lying down. Electoral votes
don't get assigned unless the state legislature decides to assign them.
If it's been found that there's fraud, then we should
insist at our electoral votes do not get assigned, and

(58:10):
that they do one of two things. They can either
use to vote end of election day on Tuesday, well,
we can have a special one day in person vote
with ID to fix this. There is no reason that
anybody who has been found to have either violated election
laws or used fraudulent activity should benefit from it. So

(58:32):
we can still fix this, and I would like to
see something happen. Listen, if we want to fix it,
we can fix it. You know how we know, Laura,
because people in other states they got a perfectly, They
did the whole process perfectly. Where the United States of America,
we set our mind to it, we can do it
in an organized fashion that people will have integrity in

(58:53):
the results and confidence in the results, and we don't
have to drag the country through this. By the way,
a lot of this is what the Democrats have wanted.
Senator Johnson was right, quick break, we'll come back, news, roundup, information,
overload our We're going to talk about how a guy
that predicted the left would do all of this. Interesting

(59:13):
next as we continue Hi, here for our final news
round up and information overload, A right news round up,
Information overload, our eight hundred and nine four one sean
if you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
You know, we keep getting back to the issue of
how is it states can do it so perfectly and
then others you got a lot of chaos. You know,

(59:35):
how is it a candidate gets to hide in the
basement in what is the media candidate protection program, no
hard questions and then get away with it. And big
tech companies, well, they just decide what news you can
even read yourself and make a decision. I guess we're
too dumb to figure it out in their minds. Anyway.

(59:57):
You know, it's really fascinating. I keep going back. It
is a stunning report and beat down of this this
software program that we have spent so much time talking about,
and it's really shocking. Dominion software and the report by
the Texas Secretary of State about why Texas rejected it
not once but twice twenty thirteen and twenty nineteen. Twenty

(01:00:20):
nineteen report by the Secretary of State is devastating, and
now it's being used in twenty eight states. It's pretty unbelievable.
And anyway, so we have with us to go through
a lot of these different issues, questions that we all
have and coming up. Actually, long before people fully completely
understood the power, the influence and the reach of these

(01:00:43):
big tech companies, and now we know that they were
the biggest campaign contributors to all things radical, Democratic, Socialist
and Biden. Anyway, a guy by the name of Eric
Eggers had figured it all out. He also figured out
well before the elect He wrote a book Fraud, How
the Left Plans to steal the next election, and he's

(01:01:05):
been working with many other people investigating election mass fraud, etc. Etc.
Just we just had Ron Johnson on saying, yeah, they
it's always the Democrats. They want this. They don't want
voter ID, they want all this mail in balloting, they
want all this chaos. John Punders with us. He's the
president of take Back, the TakeBack Action Fund, and he

(01:01:26):
knows a lot about this dominion software and how it works.
We saw the problem. Laura Cox was on this program
from Michigan. I'm going to get to these guys in
just a second, but I want to play and remind
you what Laura Cox had to say about it. Then
I want to remind you what the Pennsylvania Secretary of State,
who hates Donald Trump said about the postmark or not
anything that arrived yesterday as a valid vote vote. But

(01:01:48):
yet we know what the court there did. And then
of course the details emerging of observers as a matter
of low statutory you know, compliance, were not allowed to
do their job, and election laws were violated all over
the place. Listen, if all this wasn't enough, In Antrim County,
ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans,

(01:02:12):
causing a six thousand vote swing against our candidates. The
county clerk came forward and said tabulating software glitched and
caused a miscalculation of the votes. Since then, we have
now discovered that forty seven counties use this same software
in the same capacity. Antrim County had to hand count

(01:02:36):
all of the ballots, and these counties that use this
software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.
The people of Michigan deserved a transparent and open process.
There were six hundred eighty two, four hundred seventy nine
ballots counted in Philadelphia in Allegheny County that there were

(01:02:58):
no full watchers allowed to watch. It's the job of
the media to ask the question why, because all we
are asking for is truth, transparency and sunlight here. That
is all we are asking for, and sadly we are
asking the questions many of you should. He's raising the
point about how ballots that arrived yesterday that can still

(01:03:19):
be counted may not have a a llegible postmark on
them and raising questions about whether or not they should
be counted or not. And I was effective's because of
the prepaid envelopes of the state provided. I wonder if
you could speak to that sure, So I'm not sure
he may be confusing. So anything that arrived yesterday doesn't
matter whether it's postmarked or not. Anything that arrived yesterday's

(01:03:42):
a valid vote. That's what Pennsylvania law has always been
right at these, So chuck him at the late arriving ballots.
So the postmark. First of all, the way we did
prepaid postage in Pennsylvania is we went to the counties
where they are. So if they wanted it to be
through their business reply mail USPA permit, we did it
that way. If they wanted to literally have us reimburse

(01:04:03):
them for stamps or metered postage. We did however they want,
so some of them are not even and I don't
remember how many, but we could get you that information.
How many counties are using business reply mail, but those
are still postmarked, they have timing marks, they are date stamped,
they are still trackable by date. So it's a tiny

(01:04:23):
fraction of any of those things, whether it's business reply
mail or regular mail. And we've all had that situation
where you get a letter and it's not postmarked. It's rare, right,
same for business reply mail, they do what's called a
timing mark, so that's just it's not accurate. They're all stamped.
Official came out, it was kind and access to sign documents,

(01:04:45):
and a few moments later we were asked to leave. Well,
I finally I wanted to react, to leave within ten
to twelve minutes? When is it they had an hour
and a half kind of left to do. Further away
than I am from you all here hundreds at least
a hundred feet away from open ballots that go back
out of our site. We can't see them. We don't
know what's happening to them. It's just there's no way

(01:05:08):
for us to meaningfully observe the process. Hey have refused
to let us have meaningful and meaningful view of the
vote count. They have continued to count the votes because
because they have done nothing to help us, they are
not letting every legal vote count. Wow. Unbelievable anyway, Eric

(01:05:29):
Eggers joins us now and John Punder joins us. Thank
you both for being with us. John, I want to
start with you, and I want to start with this
Dominion software. As Senator Crew said, we saw the problem
in Michigan. You just heard Laura Cox give her testimony.
I read earlier in the program the report from the
Secretary of State of Texas when they tested it. It

(01:05:51):
was an unmitigated, appalling disaster, and they rejected it as
a system to be used as for counting votes in Texas.
Your thoughts, well, your listeners don't need to understand the
technical details on Dominion. What you're interested to understand is,
like any program, this is a bunch of ones and
zeros that either intentionally or either accidentally can have a glitch,

(01:06:13):
like any program. I hate to say, Falling Short and
Georgia may have been a blessing in disguise, because what
you have to have in these situations is a manual recount.
Every recount in history has kept the boat within a
few hundred votes. Now, if they manually count all these
ballots in Georgia and it's basically the same boat, then

(01:06:33):
it looks like the glitch didn't change things. But if
it's ten thousand off, twenty thousand off, you know enough
to really change it there. You really have to put
the pressure then back on everyone else who use this
system and saying this is more than your normal little
glitches on election day of a few votes here and there. Unbelievable.
By the way. Eric Eggers also is with Peter Schweitzer's

(01:06:55):
Group Government Accountability Institute and he's the director of research.
All right, now, I got to give you some props
here because you called out big tech and the danger
that they posed in terms of an information crisis long
before what led up to this vote in twenty twenty eight. Congratulations.
And when did you write this book Fraud, How the

(01:07:16):
Left Plans to steal the next election? Yeah, thank you, Sean.
I started working on the book Fraud back in twenty seventeen.
In both the book and the film, the Creepy Line,
which talked about the influence and power of Google and
Facebook and the ways in which they may manipulate electoral outcomes.
They both came out in twenty eighteen. So yeah, I'm
sad that the two of the projects I've worked on

(01:07:37):
in the past few years seemed to have culminated in
a very real way, in a very potentially damaging way.
By the way, twenty eighteen that was the year that
Secret Empires was written by Peter Schweizer. I mean, we
stayed busy at the Government Accountabilly Institute, Sean, But yeah,
it's it was a big year for all of us.
But I think the key thing that we're now seeing
is this interesting convergence of this stemaic vulnerabilities in our

(01:08:01):
election systems. And John's touching on I think maybe a
remedy of some of these hand recounts help lead us
that way with the dominion software problems. But the other
thing too, and this is so big because everything that
you're raising, every audio clip that you played that your
audience has heard, these are all real credible people raising
concerns that demand answers. And one of the things that

(01:08:22):
I explored in the film Creepy Line that I think
is so important. Now, remember we were all conditioned leading
up to election day. We all saw that the tags
and the banners that say it may take several days
for the votes to be counted. This means that the
system is working exactly as it's supposed to. We all
saw that on many social media sites. How Come now
we are now being tolled like any time anyone raises

(01:08:44):
an allegation of voter fraud despite the many credible allegations
and instances that have been documented. How come they're getting
the total censorship and deletion by these social media sites.
When I think American democracy demands no less than the
very hard question sins that are being raised be answered
in the court law. That's what American stands for. That's
how American democracy is supposed to work. And you know,

(01:09:07):
hopefully we have a chance to get a full vetting
of the process. So you spent a year and a half,
you know, researching your book and saying that, yeah, this
is what the left wants to do. We see the
distinction in the difference. Some states are still counting votes
here it is what nine days after the election day.
Others could call up, you know, within an hour after

(01:09:27):
the polls close, and we obviously have a lot of problems,
and we can start in a lot of different ways.
Voter idea is certainly one of the mail in ballots
is a huge problem. I don't like the fact that
people can vote a month or five weeks, six weeks
ahead of time and you know, all the events that
might influence one's vote haven't happened yet. That bothers me.

(01:09:50):
So what if we want to stop this, how do
we do it? And where do you go with this
mess from here? Yeah, it's a great question, and I
think that you having Senator off and on to talk
about how it's always one political party that's fighting against
any common sense measure of improving election integrity. Right, only
one party fights against the implementation of voter ID, even

(01:10:12):
though you need an ID to perform almost any basic
civic function in this country, including ironically attending the Democratic
National Committee convention in twenty sixteen. It's only one political
party that fights against the removal of illegal, dead or
no longer valid voters from voter roles. And so one
of the things that I've found, I think this is
what the other people you've had on have so correctly

(01:10:33):
pointed out is only one party has consistently supported the
conditions in which fraud has been proven to thrive, not
the least of which, unfortunately, is absentee or mail in valloting.
Even the New York Times has acknowledged that when you
have a massive increase in mail in valloting, that's the
one form of voting that's the most susceptible to fraud.

(01:10:54):
So where do we go from here? We have common
sense standards that include voter ID, vote signature of verification,
and common sense reforms, including what the deadlines will be
if we're going to continue see an increase and apps
into your mail in valoting, hard and firm and strictly
enforced deadlines on when you can turn them in and
what the thresholds are. Because we consistently see this fight

(01:11:17):
to have the goalposts moved after the game has started,
and I think unfortunate. That's consistent with what we're seeing now. John,
Let's go back to this software dominion and what you
know about it. You're an expert at it. By the way,
I can barely download an app. But after I saw
what happened in Michigan, and then I read just the
News dot Com our friend John Solomon. It was used

(01:11:40):
in twenty eight states. Then I read the Secretary of
State of Texas' twenty nineteen report why they rejected this.
I am blown away that any state was even allowed
to use it. Well in the hypocrisy and left on this.
We were lobbing on unrelated legislation in Georgia last year,
and the left was complaining about this being put in.

(01:12:01):
They were complaining the whole year about the machines, the software,
everything else. It was open to fraud. So for them
now to sort of dismiss why you would be doing
recounts in these states, I mean they were raising alarm bells.
Not to the degree erictive. It's a comprehensive report, but
this was a steady drum beat. And on top of that,
let's not forget the left has been complaining for four

(01:12:22):
years that they were worried about votes being electronically flipped. Now,
of course they always said they thought it was the Russians,
because everything the Russians. It's bad out there. But nonetheless,
I remember Jill Stein led an effort and made them
do hand recounts just on other systems in Michigan and Wisconsin.
She was sure that Trump had stole in twenty sixteen,
couldn't fathom that he'd won the Upper Midwest. So the

(01:12:44):
left has gone from demanding recounts, which, by the way,
those recounts proved that Trump's election was absolutely valid. But
why is there this resistance to doing the exact same
thing that was done to Trump. Let's you just to
verify and no, he was a legitimate president. I would
think if I were Biden support, I'd want to know
he was a legitimate president. Well that's what Yeah, Okay,

(01:13:05):
obviously that's not the case. As long as they win,
that's all they care about it. Just like on Russia,
the double standard was flagrant. Just like on Ukraine, the
double standard was flagrant. They don't care it was. It's
all power, it's all corruption. It's sad. I mean, you know,
the greatest country in the world, and we're allowing this
to happen. It's unconscionable. All of the chaos that we're

(01:13:27):
seeing in all of these swing states is not by accident.
There's one party that doesn't want voter id there's one
party that doesn't want to purge the voting roles. There's
one party that wants you know, massive mail in balloting
because it sows the most confusion. And as our friends
here Eric Eggers was saying that, yeah, even the New

(01:13:50):
York Times recognized mail in ballots lend itself to more
fraud potential. It's just obvious. But why do they want it?
Why were they pushing for it? Why were they denying
funds before the first COVID nineteen relief bill. That we're
desperately needed to fight for this, and I mean they
were willing to die on that hill, that's how much

(01:14:11):
they were all in on all of this. We'll also
have an update on these voting machine systems, a brutal
takedown by the Secretary of State in Texas. I'll revisit
what I had led the show with today and much more.
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(01:14:33):
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always do. We're gonna get to the truth. We weren't
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We'll continue right as we continue twenty five till the
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if you want to be a part of the program.
We got a couple of calls out. I just want
to spend an extra couple of minutes with Eric Eggers

(01:14:55):
and John Putner and boy, they predicted a lot of
what happened in this election. But I want to go back,
and this is November fourth, by the way, twenty nineteen,
a year ago before election day, and they went through
how in October of last year, twenty nineteen, the examiners
appointed by the Treasury, the Texas Secretary of State the

(01:15:16):
Texas Attorney General examined Democracy Suite five point five, a
voting system presented by Dominion Voting Systems for certification in Texas.
They followed that the following hard drive software components were
examined in the Office of the Secretary of State. Anyway,
then they outlined their results, and just to give you

(01:15:37):
a background, Dominion Voting Systems previously sought certification in twenty thirteen.
I believe the installation failed multiple times. As a result,
the system needed to be fully wiped required a full
reinstallation of all EMS software, including the Windows operating system.
Installation failed again on the first attempt after the full reinstallation,

(01:16:01):
but succeeded on the second attempt. Before the beginning of
the vendor presentation. On the second day of the exam,
I conducted the accessibility testing and tested the visually impaired
functions and the sip and puff controller and the paddle controller.
The system performed well during the accessibility testing and presented

(01:16:21):
no issues. On the second day of the exam, the
vendor provided a presentation of the software and updates involving
the current version of Democracy Suite, and the vendor noted
that the only difference between Democracy Suite five point five
and five point five A was an update to the
instruction relating to straight party voting on the system. No

(01:16:42):
other changes have been made anyway. Analysis The standards for
a voting system in Texas are outlined in Texas Election
Code Chapter one two two. Specifically, the system may only
be certified for use in Texas if it satisfies each
of an enumerated list of requirements contained in the Texas

(01:17:03):
Election code. Because the system does not satisfy each of
those requirements, I would recommend recommend against certification of the system.
And they go into even more details. As I've discussed earlier.
When you hear that John Putner and that's last year,
a year ago and twenty eight states use this, does
that raise alarm bells in your mind? Well, it does.

(01:17:25):
And I had talked to sectory states and other states
that were concerned about the system. And I know your
listeners would probably rather talk about kind of the voter
ID and mail in. But the reason we're locked in
on this is the only thing that can change the
kind of votes you're talking about to really challenge an
election is an electronic system that allows the flipping of votes.

(01:17:46):
That's the key. That is the only thing that could
potentially be undone if handcounts don't match electronic And it
just doesn't seem like these safeguards were in place. It
seems like the system was left of vulnerable. And look,
we were critical of mailing ballots everyone in Nevada and
things like that. The problem at this stage is those

(01:18:08):
envelopes that could prove you had invalid signatures, etc. Are
now separated from the ballots, it's very hard to undo that,
even if you're arrested three people hypothetically who are filling
out ballots and cramming a man and fake names and all.
At this point, those envelopes just aren't with the ballots.
You can't prove it and take those votes off. So
that's why, while it's so much more technical, I know

(01:18:30):
why you have to lock in and why the electronic
potential glitches are the ones they could have moved massive votes.
And again, if the hand count comes out the same
in Georgia, it's pretty tough to pursue the case otherwise.
But if not, that's why this handcount is so important.
We had to have what let me go back to you,
Eric Geggers, and you hear this and you see this
and you understand and again, then we can also bring

(01:18:51):
up the issue of Okay, we know the disaster of
New York Times recognizes mail in balloting. Yes, is right
for fraud. Well that ought if you're a liberal, I
don't want a concern. They don't care as long as
you get the result. They didn't care about Russian election
interference and the dirty Russian dossier or spying on a
candidate and a president using the dirty, unverifiable phony dossier

(01:19:13):
to spy on then candidate and President Trump. They didn't
care about Joe and the quid pro quo with Ukraine,
So it's not the issue. They don't care as long
as they get the result they want. But that's all
we've seen for the last five years. Thoughts, to your point,
into John's point, it wasn't a big deal. It wasn't
on the national radar when after George's primary, their Secretary

(01:19:33):
of State came out and said, hey, we identified a
thousand double votes in the state of Georgia alone. And
to John's point, this is why this is so insidious,
because it's now impossible even if you've identified the people
that have cast more than one ballot, you can't ask them.
It's illegal to ask them who they voted for and
then filter it out that way, right, the secrecy of
the ballot still carries the day. So we have a

(01:19:56):
lot of issues, and I think obviously we would all
support the idea that a key tenant of American democracy
is the secret ballot process. But let's recognize the position
that sort of puts us in when it comes to
As John pointed out, doing the very hard work of
now trying to investigate and authenticate that only legal votes
are counted. And that's again why I think the process

(01:20:17):
is playing out in Georgia, the potential processes that John
I aligned that may happen in other states based on
that outcome. But we need time. I mean just because
we deserve time, not because we're rooting for one outcome
or another. We're rooting for the truth. We're rooting for accuracy.
And so I think for anyone to suggest that this
conversation actively undermines American democracy, as every social media site

(01:20:41):
with an article about this topic is doing right now,
I would suggest that the opposite's true. Right. I would
suggest that rushing and a conversation, rushing the process without
ensuring that only legal ballots are cast and counted, is
actively undermining confidence in American democracy. We work as a
country because we have peaceful transitions of power, because whether

(01:21:03):
we agree with it or not, people accept the accuracy
of the outcome. It's important that we give time to
make sure that the whole country agrees with the accuracy
the outcome. This time around, I find the whole thing
a little bit frustrating because there's no way, just based
on the laws that we know that once, for example,
observers were not allowed to observe as the statutory requirement

(01:21:25):
mandates in many of these important states. At that point,
you don't really know. I don't even really see a
remedy except the revote, which, by the way, what are
the odds of that next to zero? Yeah, it's virtually
impossible to do that unless you've identified more problems in
terms of documented instances of double voting, documented instances of
illegal immigrants being on the roles. Of course, you have

(01:21:47):
to do some real time authentication and verification, which you
can be quite challenging. Right, if you can find dead people,
if you're gonna have to find more problems on the
voter roles, then you have as the margin of victory
there And given I think, and John's correctly points this out,
given some of the margins that we're seeing, you know,
in terms of the low five figures, that historically has

(01:22:08):
been a challenge to identify that level of fraud to
be able to get or win a revote. But again,
all the more reason why the lawyers are doing what
they're doing. They're doing investigation, they're doing the litigation a
Lindsay Graham has said it, Eric who Republicans will never
win another election if we don't fix the underlying problems
or you know, as they just won't. John, let me

(01:22:31):
go back last question on this. You know, when you
hear about dominion and we solve the problem in Michigan,
explain what happened there and why that hand count gets
very interesting, at least to me, considering they have the
same system I believe in Georgia. Correct. Yes, And you
know there are two sides of every story. I mean,
sometimes you do on election night have someone misreport a

(01:22:52):
figure and it's caught, so of course that's what their
claiming has happened, And that does happen sometimes. I don't
want to dismiss it. But the problem that count is
unless you're going to let people go back, you know,
you happen to notice one that's out of whack. It's obvious.
Someone says there's no way Trump got this few votes
here and Biden got this many. You go in, it's corrected,

(01:23:12):
that was a reporting mistake. The problem is you're only
seeing that obvious one. What if there are another ten
where the reporting was slightly off but it didn't rise
to the level of jumping off the page at you.
That's why you really need these handcounts. We all want
to hear the results immediately, and that's where electronics help
us and computers help us. But you really have to

(01:23:33):
be able to go back and go through these handcounts.
I wish they were doing them everywhere, but at least
in Georgia, we now have a trial run that should
point to whether or not these numbers were way off
overall with dominion. Yeah, listen, appreciate you both being with us.
I wish you both were wrong. Unfortunately both of you
called it. It's sad. Actually it really is the United

(01:23:55):
States of America. We deserve Every American deserves better. Anyway,
Thank you, dev and Hio. Hey, Deborah, how are you
glad you called having me hey today? I'm hoping President
Trump is listening right now because we're not gonna stand
by and let this happen. Please, President Trump, get out
and do your rallies, sir, take control of the stake.
News Media Daily News skied. Fighting is not our president.

(01:24:17):
Thousands of people are waiting for you, and we will
get that Trump train headed to any state you need
us spend. We need people to know where to go
to file a complaint and have the courage to do this.
You give them the courage to fight. You are our party.
We need formal audits of any states that stops the
counting early only to have the weap gone and hours overnight.
We can't let the progress you have done in the

(01:24:39):
last four years be your raised. Please, President Trump, start
your rallies and let our voice be heard only through
your At least do we get noticed. The Supreme Court
is the laws the land. Let them see how many
people are waiting and wanting their right and freedom's protected.
Don't let up. We are not standing by and letting
our rights be stolen. Please put your rally up on.

(01:25:00):
We're not done yet. Just like the song says, We're
not going to take it anymore. We're here and I
hope that seventy two million strong, seventy two million Americans
deserve an answer and the idea that they anybody would
even question our ability to ask what we now know

(01:25:20):
are legitimate questions. They got the chaos they wanted. This
is what they saw it, this is what they planned
for it. This is why they held up COVID relieve
money and This is the end result a lack of
any integrity faith confidence in our elections. Now put aside
with the result, is or isn't If we don't get
it right as a country, you don't really have a country,

(01:25:42):
you don't. You know we used to send election observers.
How many countries did Jimmy Carter go to observe elections?
We're the election observers coming to our country to straighten
things out here. Just sad to me. Chris and Ohio. Chris,
you're next. Glad you called Debora. Thank you, Sean my friend,
how are you? I'm good, sir. Disappointed? You know where

(01:26:05):
we are. Frustrated? Yeah, yep. They're actually talking about shutting
Ohio down again. So hopefully that doesn't happen. But anyways,
I think I speak for the other seventy two million
people that voted for our President Trump right now. We
don't know what to do, what we can do, and
I'm just not feeling the love other than maybe six

(01:26:27):
or seven senators out there, or six or seven people
out there in the Republican Party that are trying to
get our backs. Obviously, we hear Lindsay Graham, and we're
also hearing uh, you know Senator Rubio, a little bit
here and there in Ted Cruz. But Sean, right now,
we need your voice more than ever to kind of
put a little pressure on these Republican senators. Oh, I'm

(01:26:49):
putting pressure. Trust me, I'm not going to stop. We
deserve an answer because we gotta get an answer if
we love this country. I mean, if we don't get
this right, we're done. We are absolutely done. Our country
is done. And for the people that didn't listen to
what Chuck Schumer said, I mean, it's hands down, he's
gonna take He wants to take the country down. You know,

(01:27:10):
he wants to take over the country. First, he screwed up.
I don't know if a lot of people heard what
Chuck Schumer said. We want to take over the world.
I mean he said that, and then he corrected himself
with America. You know, so I listen, remember what he said.
Everything is on the table. That should scare your Chris,
good call. I gotta get in quickly though, from Chris
and Michigan. Chris, what's going on? Hey, Sean, how you doing?

(01:27:32):
Thanks for taking my call. I appreciate it. What's going on?
You have a company called dominion. We have a company
and Grand Rapids, Michigan called Dominion Systems. We're an HR
and payroll provider. Okay, you're not the dominion that people
are talking about. We are not the dominion people are
talking about. But Twitter and a lot of our social
media channels don't know that, and we are getting a

(01:27:54):
lot of concerning emails, threats, calls, and things like that.
Really just want to set the record Street, we are
not a vote counting company, and uh, can we help you? Maybe, Linda,
would you be willing to put out a tweet because
I don't have access to anything. They Yeah, here you go,
stop calling them. They're not dominion voting. Maybe we could

(01:28:15):
put out a tweet to tell people that, yes, a
little support, I will give you all the supported. Yeah,
we're sorry, Chris, No, I appreciate it. We just want
to protect our employees, so anything that can be done.
We're not trying to get notoriety. We're just trying to
keep our people safe. Yeah. No, which, by the way,
every American deserves right. Anyway, God blush you good luck
with your business, and we'll put we'll put out a

(01:28:38):
tweet and some social media stuff. See if we can't
help you. Okay, watch and take care. Yeah, by the way, Republicans,
you know Joe Biden projected winner by the mob. Oh,
then all of a sudden, Oh, we can take down
all of the boarded up you know Rodeo Drive, New
York City, you know Plywood they put up. All Right,
that's gonna wrap things up for today, Hannity Tonight, ninety

(01:28:58):
Eastern Fox News. We have multiple investigative reports. We're gonna
break a lot of new ground tonight on the software,
on all the issues involving the whistleblowers that are being
seemingly harassed. We'll get to that. We have some more,
a lot more affid davits will share with you. Keylee
Mcinanny Wrights, previous Matt Gates, Mike Huckabere Fleischer, Senator Tom Cotton,

(01:29:22):
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