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September 10, 2025 42 mins

Sean covers the latest news today on the assassination of Conservative talk show host Charlie Kirk.  Plus, another shooting that happened at a high school in Colorado.  Talk Show host Rod Arquette joins Sean to talk about Salt Lake City and just how tragic this news hit this peaceful community.

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Speaker 1 (00:53):
Alright, our two Sean Hannity Show. Here's a total free number.
It's eight hundred and nine four one Sean. If you
want to be a part of the program, if we
don't have any updates as it relates to the news
of the day, if you're just joining us. Charlie Kirk,
who we all know very well in this program, Turning Point, USA,

(01:13):
was shot during a campus event earlier today at Utah
Valley University. Ap is reporting is in critical condition. A
man has been taken into custody. We're updating you. We're
going to update you on that in a second apparently
known to my friend and hosts at KNRS are affiliate

(01:35):
in Salt Lake City. We've been friends for decades, Rod Arquette.
We'll get to him in a minute. We're also following
another shooting story, unfortunately, this one out of Colorado. Multiple
arrests apparently have been made here at Evergreen High School
in Colorado. At least two students have been injured there,
other victims hospitalized, and authorities obviously investigating that we get

(02:00):
more details on that shooting, we'll we'll bring you up
to speeds as quickly as possible. Anyway we bring back
rod our Quette. Rod our Quette and I go back
many many years together. We he used to be my
boss when I was at the ex Wife station until
we made the number one station on KNRS one oh

(02:21):
five point nine in Salt Lake. But we've had a
lot of good times together, and he knows the area
so well and the people are so well. You know.
One of the things that always sticks out in my
mind about Salt Lake City, you know, rod is I'll
never forget. I felt like I was always going back
in time. I felt like it was reminiscent and in

(02:45):
a good way, in every good way. I remember, you know,
being part of a parade one year with one of
the Stadium of Fire events, which was, you know, one
of the greatest events ever put on anywhere in the country.
And and and just walking down the street it's felt
like circa nineteen fifties USA. But you know, we've also had,

(03:06):
you know, you guys, like every other city and every
other area across the country, we're dealing with this crime problem.
It's in small towns in big cities. I don't understand
the mindset that has led us to defund the police,
dismantle the police. No bail laws. Reimagine it's not applicable
to this event. But we can restore law and order.

(03:28):
I think the President proved that with Washington d C.
But then you can't stop evil. And it seems that
apparently we have what appears to be the man that
took this shot on Charlie is in custody. We've had
multiple callers call in a guy in a blue shirt,

(03:50):
older gentleman. You have looked at that video. This is somebody.
We're not going to mention names that person that is
again not confirmed, but is somebody that's familiar to you.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yes, he is. And matter of fact, since we talked
originally a few minutes ago, we have noun seen video
of a second person earlier being taken into custody as well.
So there may be two suspects. The person you refer two,
this gentleman who was who we saw initially, and we
saw video of him on the ground in handcuffs, police
surrounding him, something like this. Then a short time later

(04:27):
we saw second video of police hauling a guy into
the back of an suv. They've got him by his
arms and legs. They're carrying him in this van. He
may be the suspect. Now since then, we have learned
the university has issued a statement. They're indicating the shot
may have been fired from a nearby building about two

(04:48):
hundred yards away.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Knowing let me I can add some context to that
because Newsweek is reporting at this hour that the university
released a preliminary number details following this reported shooting of
Charlie And according to a university spokesman who spoke to Newsweek,
Kirk began speaking around one pm that would be local

(05:14):
time in Utah. In Salt Lake City, at approximately one
twenty pm, a single shot fired from the top of
a nearby building roughly two hundred yards away from the venue,
which it would not be a far shot for anybody
that knows how to shoot a rifle. The university confirming
that he was struck. The suspect is now in custody.
One other thing we can update you on, and this

(05:36):
is directly from the Associated Press, that Charlie Kirk CEO,
co founder of Turning Point USA, is in critical condition
at a Utah hospital as of now. While going back
maybe ten minutes ago, after being shot at a college event,

(05:56):
videos posted on social media from Utah Valley Universe the show,
Kirk speaking into a handheld microphone while sitting under a
white tent and blazon with slogans the American comeback, proved
me wrong, and a single shot that seems to be
a consistent yes, refrain and report rang out, and Kirk
can be seen reaching up with his right hand as

(06:20):
a I mean the blood. You can see the video.
There was a close There was a video of close
up taken and blood gushing from the the side of
his neck, stunning spectators. But anyway, continue what you were saying.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well and seohn. If if that is the case, and
the university obviously has now confirmed it, it would be
unlikely that the individual we know would have been on
that building. My guess is he's one of these guys
who's always in the crowd. You see me, He usually
is right up front. So that would lead us to
lead the other suspect, who we do not know, and

(06:59):
it was to get in custody. That could be the
individual who may have fired that shot from the college building.
So you know, you've got two people who are taken
into custody. One we know, we think we know, the
other we don't know. And that's where we stand today.
And we're hearing the same thing about Charlie Kirk. He's stabilized,
but he's still listed of course in critical condition. And

(07:22):
we can all just open pray that Charlie Kirk will
be okay because he has done so much for this
country and engaging especially young people in politics and talking
about the issues. We need voices like him, and only
hopefully he'll still be there.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
By the way, this just breaking. And again this is
this is not a rush to be first. We're just
trying to pass on information as it becomes available. Obviously
we can't confirm, but we are using legitimate sources. Now
The New York Times, just to be very clear reporting
the police have determined the man taken into custody was

(08:01):
not the shooter. I'm assuming they're talking about the guy
in the blue shirt.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, the guy we know is in the blue shirt. Now, Sean,
I don't know if you've seen this, but John Solomon
and Just the News is reporting that Charlie Kirk is dead.
That's coming from John Solomon with Just the News.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Pretty god, I've never wanted my friend John Solomon be
to be more wrong than now. Yeah, pretty god, that's
not true. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
The headline read, Charlie kirk get at thirty one after
shooting at Utah event. Three officials confirmed that's what we're
just seeing coming across right now.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Sean.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I've been getting texts from sources that have been saying
this that are credible. John says it's true. When they
just talked to him. Yeah, Rod, stay right there, doctor
Brian Tyson. Our friend is with us. Doctor Tyson. You
saw the video. And then we did have a young

(09:06):
girl that was an eyewitness in front of that stage.
It's very hard to talk about, and she said that,
you know, well, people they started carrying him out, but
if you look at that close up video, If you
look at the video, you can see that the blood

(09:27):
was gushing out of his neck. If you don't immediately
stop that bleeding, I don't know how you don't bleed out.
And that was my fear from the second I saw
that video. My hope was that there might be paramedics there,
skilled professionals that would be able to, you know, have
triage and stop that bleeding immediately, because that's what it

(09:50):
would need, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, I mean I look at the video. I've done
her medicine for quite some time, thirteen years of it,
and it does look like a severe traumatic wound to
the left side of the neck, likely involving the common
carotid artery and probably even the internal external jugular veins.

(10:15):
There was a tremendous amount of blood coming out which
would have needed to be compressed immediately in hopes that
you know, you can at least tamping on off the
continued flow of blood. Unfortunately, the curated artery comes right
off the orda and so it's a it's an extremely

(10:38):
high pressure vessel, and if it did hit the crodit artery,
I'm afraid what you're saying is probably most likely true.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Did you see the video that I have seen? Have
you had an opportunity to see it?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, I've seen it, and I've seen a couple of
different angles as well.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
How much time would you have if you were if
you were on the scene, and we've been friends a
long time, doctor Tyson, if you were on the scene
and you were there and you could get right in there,
what would you do and would you be able to
save him?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
It would be so you you have to put immediate pressure.
You've got minutes if if if that with with a
wound that size, would I have been able to save him? Not?
Not likely. If it hit the card common cordit artery,
you have to put a lot of pressure, which would

(11:31):
then compromise his airway. You would need to have an intivation. Kid,
you'd have to have basically surgeons on site. That's that's
a that's a very very traumatic gunshot wound.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah. When you said, when I saw it, I just couldn't,
you know, just common sense takes over and I'm like,
you can't do this, you know, you you really can't.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
We are.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
He's you know, we've we've spent time with Charlie on
multiple occasions, and I'm I'm heartbroke.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, I'm heart broke to doctor Tyson. I wish somebody
like you was there that would have given him, that
would give him the best shot. Maybe there was. I'm
still hoping upon hope that it might be a chance
that he's surviving. Rod. What are people telling you there?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Rod?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Arquette will go back to Rod.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, there we're getting Yeah, I'm here, I'm here. Can
you hear me, Sean, I can hear you?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Okay, Yeah, we're getting the same information you had we
had earlier reports that he was in critical condition and stabilized.
But as we just mentioned, John Solomon reporting that Charlie
Kirk has died at the age of thirty one. Don't
see no other reports come in as of yet. But
you know John very well, John's a reliable source, and
if he's getting that information, I think we can we

(12:58):
can understand that what he's saying is in fact fact.
And what a sad, sad day.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Sean.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I've never had a chance to meet Charlie, but I
know you've been very close to him and have worked
with him over the years. And just a very very
sad story, tragic day.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
When you hear, you know, from doctor Tyson, and then
you look at the video and then he describes how
quickly and what you would need to do to survive
a shot like that. It is a very sad, tragic day.
And this man has done this young man has done
so much good in his life. And we're praying upon

(13:35):
all hope that maybe this report is not accurate. But
it's not looking good. That video did not look good.
We're going to take a break. We'll come back well more.
Rod will be back with us. We do have people
that were at the event. They will share what they saw.
We'll have more medical updates, and we're following the news.
Charlie kirk shot at Utah Valley University earlier today. Our

(13:59):
prayers are with him and his family.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
John Hannity.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Little friends with Charlie.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Let's talk about Charlie the man for a moment. You
might have heard me talking a little bit earlier about
how supportive he is of everyone. I'm sure of you,
I'm sure of me. He is a family man, he
is a father, he is a Christian, a true believer
in Jesus Christ. Tell us about the man, you know,
Charlie kirk.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Charlie is a force of nature that some of Fox's coverage.
We do have a lot of people calling in and
Rod Arquette, who's been very gracious. We've been friends a
long time, Rod, and you know, normally we would be
joking about, you know, Crown Burger and our fun times together,
or the time somebody threw a book at me. It seems,

(15:20):
you know, it seems rather small in light of the
events of today. If you're just joining us, Charlie Kirk
is has been shot during an event at Utah Valley
University is a very bad shot. There are reports that
he's in critical condition. Just thenews dot Com is reporting

(15:42):
that he has passed. We have not been able to
independently corroborate it, so I want to be very careful.
Newsweek is reporting that the alleged shooter fired from the
top of a building two hundred yards away. There is
very very graphic video online of the shooting and what

(16:05):
is basically blood gushing out of what looks like Charlie's neck.
It looks like it hit the carotid artery, which is
you know in my martial arts training. It is a
targeted strike because of the heavy blood flow in the area.
You just had doctor Tyson, Brian Tyson on the program

(16:29):
what it would take to save somebody's life if in
fact it was the carotid. We got into that, Rod,
if you can stay with us. We have Brian in
Utah apparently was at the event. Brian, what did you see?
Where were you? Brian? Are you there? I guess Brian

(16:50):
will put Brian on hold. It looks like he's no,
not Rod, I'm looking for I've went to Brian in Utah. Brian,
are you there? Brian's not there? Taylor in Utah. Are
you there, Yeah, I'm here, Sean. So tell me what
you've been hearing and what you saw. And I know

(17:11):
this is your alma mater.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah. So I graduated from UVU in twenty eighteen. I
was vice president of College Republicans at UVU and I'm
disgusted and part of my outrage obviously Rod isn't associated
with this, because k and RS is fantastic, But I'm
really disgusted with the local media here. They have painted
Charlie as white supremacist, this evil person. And I put

(17:38):
some of the blame on the local media because they
painted well.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
They've been they were saying that in the lead up
to this event, or saying it since he got shot.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
No, there were some articles from some of the local
media here saying how bad he was, and I put
some of the blame on them because that riles some
of the very small minority here in Utah.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know, you hear this all the time. I mean
there's this false narrative, false characterization. I mean the rhetoric
on the left about Donald Trump and his family and conservatives.
We had, we had Eric Trump on for an extended
period today and all that he has been through and
his family has been through, and I'm talking about his brothers,

(18:20):
I'm talking about his sister, I'm talking about Millennia. By
the way, stations along the Sean Hannity Show radio network,
We're going to continue our live coverage Charlie Kirk, according
to one report, in critical condition. That is our hope
at this time. Other news organizations have not followed through
on just thenews dot COM's early reporting, and we're just

(18:43):
we're just going to hope upon hope that that's not
the case. Brian in Utah, I guess was at the
university event. Brian, you were there?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, I am here, Sean. Thank you so much for
taking my call. It was so just to go back
for your asking a moment ago. I was actually worth
on the north side of the event, up on the terrace,
the second floor terrace. The crowd was so crowded by
the time I got there, I couldn't get any closer
to the crowd, and so as I was there, I
couldn't really hear the proceedings from that far back, and

(19:12):
so I decided to go down the first floor and
there's a tent that was actually in the videos that
were shown on Fox News. As people were starting to scatter,
and I was right behind that tent there as a
shot rang. So there was a single shot, and there
was definitely not a security presence there, hardly except for
a couple officers that I saw directly behind and above
where Charlie Kirk was standing. I didn't see the impact
of the bullets, but it was just chaos and there

(19:34):
were people saying I saw him a shot in the neck,
and then everyone just started fleeing in into the buildings
and then out, and it literally took over ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Did you stay long enough to see, because, I mean
it is very graphic the video online of the moment
he got shot, and it looked like he got hit
in the carott at artery and it was like a gusher,
I mean it was I mean, blood was shooting out
of his neck, which indicates that he was bleeding out

(20:03):
very fast. Did you see anybody attend to him and
put pressure on that neck? Did you see any medical
attention at all going on? What did they do?

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I didn't see anything, But by the time I heard
the gunshot and I was behind that tent area, we
were just scrambling. But literally there was not the medical personnel.
There was no one there. It took at least ten
minutes for personnel where could start where I was leaving
and evacuuting from the campus because they were getting everyone out,
and I was going across the freeway there on the
little pedestrian walkway with hundreds of hundreds of students, and
you finally started hearing science coming towards the campus and

(20:34):
I saw fire truck and stuff. So it was it
was not an instant response either. It took time for
emergency personnel to respond and get there. So I and
I'm just hoping it's just as much as everyone else
out there that hopefully he's okay, but it sounds like
you may not be able to just contain to pray
for him and his family. And thank you so much
for your time, Sean.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
No, thank you for calling, and we really appreciate it.
I want to thank everybody in Utah that has called in,
all the people that have been at the event. You
know badly in moments like this, there are people that
like to call in and spoof radio shows as if
that's a funny moment to do it. A man, a father,
a husband who's only thirty one years old, was shot

(21:15):
severely in his corotide artery and we've got to get
to the bottom of this. Let me go back again
to Brian Tyson. Then we'll check in with my friend
Rod Arquette with our affiliate kN RS out in Utah
in Salt Lake. Brian, let me go back again, and
that's now the second call that we've had of an
eyewitness that says there was not immediate medical attention. And

(21:38):
based on the video that we have, let's go through
this again in detail, what would need to happen and
how quickly based on the video that you saw.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
So, I mean, based on a video that we saw,
definitely pressure needed to be applied to the open wound immediately.
There's three main vessels in the part of the nuts.
You have the common carotid artery that runs up to
the brain. Then you have the two main internal and
external jugular vessels that come down from the brain. You know,

(22:13):
in a hopeful world, the we would hope that the
bullet missed the carotid artery, and actually what we saw
was venus bleeding from a main vessel from probably the
external caroate or from the external jugular vein. If that
were the case, putting pressure on that area, even even

(22:36):
just handheld pressure could be enough to save off any
further bleeding at that point in time. That would be
the ideal scenario in in a in a instance like this,
if it did hit in fact hit the carotid artery,

(22:58):
I don't feel like there would be any chance of
survival at that point with no medical attention on scene
for ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
And Brian again walk us through. If you were there
behind the tent, you saw what happened, you saw the
blood gushing out the way it was, what would be
the treatment that you would you would undertake in that moment.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I mean the biggest treatment is you have to you
have to apply pressure, so you wouldn't need to put pressure,
stabilize the neck, get in with a get an airway
in him as soon as possible, in tobate, make sure
that there was no damage structurally to the trachea or

(23:41):
anything else with a gunshot room of that nature. Also
worrying about maybe you know, data hit the cervical spine
or there any spinal core damage, So you have to
stabilize the sea spines as well. But you the pressure
is the main thing get the vessels, uh to to
close tampan on those off if you could, you know,

(24:03):
but I mean, you know, medical in the field, it's
not like you can, you know, take a needle and
tie off an artery. So it's just compression, airway protection ceasepying,
stabilization and then getting into a trauma center where the
trauma surgeons can then take them to the e R
and tie off those vessels and then hopefully the collateral

(24:24):
circulation from the other side will take care of the
brain and any any of the vital structures in the
in the head at that point.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
We really appreciate your expertise, Doctor Brian Tyson. Thank you
if you're just joining us. Charley Kirk was shot during
a Turning Point USA event. This was an arm Utah.
I've been there by the way, It's a beautiful part
of the country. The suspect is in facting in custody.
I really don't want to spend a lot of time

(24:58):
on this. We will in the days to come. But
the commentary on the left immediately after the shooting is
beyond repulsive, predictably repulsive, and I'm sure you're gonna get
right into the gun debate will be next. I'm sure
by the time we come on the air tomorrow, I'll
be playing things that will shock the conscience and soul

(25:19):
of anyone that has one. Apparently many people do not.
Rod Arquette is back with us. He has been a
long time friend. We've been friends for decades and have
worked together for decades. And he hosts the afternoon show
on KNRS, that's our affiliate out in Salt Lake. And
we've had a lot of fun times and great memories together.

(25:40):
And you know, this I'm sure is shaken. You know,
the entire state to its core.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Rod, it has sean you know, like you said, Orum
and Utah Valley University is the largest state run university.
It has grown, It's gross has been unbelievable. In Utah
County is a very conservative county. It is probably the
second most conservative county next to down in the Saint
George area here in Utah. And you know, there was

(26:09):
a huge crowd out there for Charlie today. I want
to go back too.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I need to correct one thing because we were wrong.
I did see one report that said that that did
get the suspect. The suspect is not in custody. I
need to be very clear about that. And the person
that was on social media in the blue shirt, who
you even yourself recognized and identified, is not the person
that is being a suspect in the shooting.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, that's true, that's true, Sean. I was going to
mention that I want to go back to Sean to comment.
One of your callers and one of our listeners made
a short time ago about the media here. I remember Charlie,
and it was probably about a week ago, maybe even
less than that tweeted out in some headlines in various newspapers,
and Charlie's tweet was what's going on in Utah? Because
the headlines were calling him, you know, you know, a

(26:59):
white trams, calling them all kinds of names, controversial, and
Charlie tweeted out that, you know, you would think I
could come to Utah and get a pretty warm reception,
which he got today with a crowd there, but certainly
not the events that happened. But even Charlie was kind
of baffled the same, what's going on in Utah when
I see the media covering the story like this? So
I thought that was interesting. Following up the call of

(27:20):
that you had just a short time ago, Sean.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, it kind of surprised me. As I said when
I debated Rocky Anderson back in the day, I was
surprised that Salt Lake had a Democratic mayor. There are
pockets of every state that have blue areas, and this
is one of them. I'll tell you how repulsive Rod,
and I know this won't surprise you. Over at MSDNC,

(27:44):
Katie Turr reports apparently there's this guy Matthew Dowd, a
political analyst. The Daily Caller is reporting that Dowd argued
that Kirk's hate speech inevitably led to him being shot.
This I mean, I mean, this is like within an
hour of the shooting. This is within an hour. He's

(28:08):
thirty one years old. What has he said that's so hateful?
You're conservative? You like Donald Trump. He's been one of
the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this It
was constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech
or aimed at certain groups. And I always go back
to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, would lead to
hateful actions. Everything he is saying is hateful, and I

(28:33):
can't believe this is where, you know, the minds of
some people go. I'm not going to spend a lot
of time on it, but it is so grossly repulsive
that this is how some people think in this country
in the middle of you know, a shooting like this.
It's only been not that long ago, you know, just
a little over a year President Trump was shot. I

(28:54):
went to breakfast the morning of the incident at Trump International,
which the Whitkoff was now the mid East, the envoy
for President Trump. We had breakfast that morning. He was
begging me to go play golf. An hour and a
half later, I get a phone call. You know, I
think they tried to kill him again. And it turned
out in that particular case, he did hear rightly, he
did hear gunshots, but it was one sharp eyed Secret

(29:17):
Service agent that took out the potential assassin in that case.
You know. But I'm getting the feeling between the rhetoric
and everything in between, it's like there's no limits rotted
in terms of what you can and cannot say about
Donald Trump or a conservative, even in the mainstream media
these days.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, Sean, as you pointed out, and you mentioned this
a moment ago, any time you challenged the democratic or
the socialistic narrative in this country. Just challenge it with
facts and exprain your position. All of a sudden, it's
hate speech because you're challenging, you know, the belief that
so many on the left have by raising questions and
simply Charlie sometimes asking questions, which he did a lot

(29:59):
on these college toward you know you're you're Immediately it's
labeled this hate speech. I've heard Charlie speak a couple
of times. Like I said, I've never met him before.
But Charlie isn't about hate speech. Charlie sears not at all.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
He's He's actually a very gentle soul.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Charlie shares what is in his fiber that makes Charlie
Kirk what to who Charlie Kirk kids. That is what
he's doing to people and asking them to consider it
and to wake up and see what's going on. That's
not hate speech in my in my opinion, Sean.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
No, it's definitely not hate speech. Stay right there, Rod Arquette,
thank you, by the way, thank you Rod for your
friendship and all your time today. We appreciate it. Rod Arquette,
you know, host the number one afternoon show on KNRSR
affiliate in Salt Lake City. Alex Is in Utah was
at the event with his wife, Alex, What did you see?

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Well, I'm gonna try to keep my composure first and foremost, Sean,
I'm been a great fan. You're a hero to a
lot of us here in Salt Lake City, definitely mine,
all the way back to even the beautiful Rush Limbaugh.
But we were there, so we watched Charlie come out
and he teasingly joke started having out hats and I

(31:12):
made a reference to my wife who was right there.
They give her a hat because she's four foot nine,
right up front, and he did so kindly, and he
is a general soul, like you say, and literally right
after the first debate, I wouldn't even consider it a
debate because it was one of his fans, that's LDS.
They had a discussion about the church, so on and

(31:33):
so forth, and there was a little bit of you know,
differences there, and Charlie even said flat out numerous times,
I don't hate Mormons. I love Mormons. They're great people.
There's nothing against someone. I don't want anybody to speculate
that's I'm talking any garbage about Mormons. And it was
a great opening debate, and literally as soon as the

(31:56):
gentleman walked off, that's when I heard what I thought
was a firecracker. And as I look up, my wife
is trying to take a selfie of Charlie right there
next to her, and that's when I seen the blood
and hit him right in the neck and it looked
like confetti, but it was his shirt. So I tackled

(32:17):
my wife down and just laid on top and it did.
It seriously. Took minutes to even get the ambulance's area.
It was probably five ten minutes before I heard the sirens.
But the only thing I pray, because he sees a
great father of two beautiful girls, that his security was
right behind him and was able to, from what I seen,

(32:39):
grab him and pull him off stage and apply some pressure.
But other than that, I've getting the mixed reviews too
with him being gone, him still critical condition. So his
family's definitely in our prayers.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I can tell you this, And I am texting with
John Solomon and John Solomon just Thehnews Dot. He's a
very reliable reporter. He's standing by his report confirming that
Charlie has passed. I'm praying that that is not true.
I just wrote him, I said, I pray to God
you're wrong, and I will. You know, all of us

(33:15):
now are living through really tumultuous times here. You know,
I'm maybe we get used to it. Our conversation with
Eric Trump and he's writing about everything that he and
his family have been through. I mean, when you have
one family, one man, one organization, you have das, you
have attorney generals run on a platform to destroy those people.

(33:40):
You know, when did we have have attorney general? Attorneys
general run on a platform to get one family, one man,
one organization. But that's what they have done, and the
left has accepted this. At no point would the left
ever even speak up and say, no, mar A Lago
is not worth eighteen million dollars, that's ridiculous. You know,
a minor for rusal of real estate and Palm Beach,

(34:01):
Florida would show you that, Yeah, that's what. That's an
insanely undervalued property. It's worth well over a billion. But
they didn't care. And and that tells you a lot
about how crazy the left has become. This, you know,
for them, for people on on ms DNC is you
know being reported to immediately you know, start blaming the

(34:23):
victim here, you know, suggesting you know, Charlie Kirk's rhetoric
made him a natural target for violence, and concluding his
remarks is hateful thoughts lead the hateful words, which lead
to hateful actions, you know, somehow kind of justifying it.
And then you kind of put it all together with
all the conversations we've been having about law and order

(34:45):
and safety and security and and why there's this callousness
you know on the on the left, and and why
they cling to defund dismantled no bail laws and reimagine
the police. And you know, we are living through very
tumultuous signs. And if you know what what did Brian
Humpty dumpty Steltz suggest. You know, we were talking about

(35:09):
the case of this young woman that was killed on
this train in Charlotte, North Carolina. Oh, baldly racist. I'm like,
what are you talking about? Ye have a young woman,
a Ukrainian refugee, Irena Is, you know, just gets on
a train, sits down, looks at her phone and is
brutally murdered. In what We're supposed to just accept that

(35:31):
and not talk about it like the rest of the
media they're living in very dark, dangerous times. You know,
I've I've not spent I'm sorry. What are you saying
in my ear? You Trump's statement, President Trump's statement? Uh oh,
I don't know if I want to read this. M

(35:54):
I'm looking at it. Okay, John Solomon was right from
President Trump, the great, even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.
No one understood or had the part of the youth
in the US better than Charlie. He was loved and

(36:17):
admired by all, especially me, and now he's no longer
with us. Milania and my sympathies go out to his
beautiful wife, Erica and his family. Charlie, we love you.
I never thought John Solomon was wrong. I was hoping
upon hope brought arquet.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, you're right, John, I'm just seeing it as well,
posting up on Fox News a saban from the President.
Saint Charlie Kirk is dead, and I think we're all
in a state of shock. Sean, right now, I mean
this young man, he's thirty one, married two beautiful little girls,
how doing what he loved to do, talking to the

(37:00):
American people, answering their questions, sharing his views on what
he believes what America is really all about and what
we should be striving for, put together an unbelievable organization.
Turning point USA the conventions. My guess is, Sean, you've
been there. I never have been, but you've been down
to one of them, and I've spoken at them. You know,

(37:21):
I'm seeing a picture right now of him and his
wife and one of their girls at a baseball game,
beautiful smiles and I just saw that come across too,
and we're all in shock. And you're right, John Solomon
had this right, John, he knows what he's doing. And
as he shared this information, it took us a while
to process and to get the word out, but the

(37:42):
word is out now that he is dead after the shooting.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Mike question thirty one years old, thirty one years old.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, My question now, Sean, is the search for the
suspect because the university has indicated they do not have
a suspect in custody right now, So what is that process? Like,
we have a lot of connections down in Utah County
with a sheriff's department. We're going to try and follow
up on that, see what's going on with that. But
truly a very sad day here and your Donna. I

(38:10):
think around the country for a just a brilliant young man.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, it was life all ahead of him. I mean,
Fox is showing the most beautiful pictures of his wife
and his children, two beautiful children that will not know this.
This young man that was full of life. I've had
some of the best conversations with him, and I don't
know why. I mean, but he always was so respectful

(38:37):
to me. Inasmuch as you know you've been doing this
a long time, I need to pick your brain. I
want to talk to you about this, and I'm not
going to get too into the personal conversations we had,
but he he just really loved people that had been
in the movement a long time, cared about it, wanted

(38:58):
to get everything right. That that was really the one
of the larger discussions that we had ongoing. And you know,
and how did you how have you survived this long?
He would ask me questions like that, Rod, I didn't
hear what you said in my ear, Linda, you have
to say it.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I can tell you how five. You're tenacious man. You
are a bulldog. You won't give up. You'll stay in
there fighting, just like Charlie Kirk was doing each and
every day. I mean, you have to just keep on going.
You have to stand up for what you believe in.
And times are tough. You've been through them. I've been
through them, certainly Charlie today and what has happened to him.
You just have to stand up and fight for what

(39:38):
you believe in. And I wish more people in this
country would do a Sean. I think sometimes we're a
little too easy and we need to stand up and
say enough is enough in this country.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Rod Urcutt, you've been a dear friend. I know you
have your show and you've been so gracious with all
your time today. We really appreciate it. We are taking
calls for people that were at the event today. We
can confirm Charlie Kirk dead at the age of thirty one.
He has a wife and two young children that survive him.

(40:11):
Our prayers are with all of them, and from just

(40:40):
putting on truth social the great, even legendary Charlie Kirk
is dead. No one understood or had the heart of
the youth in the US of the United States of
America better than Charlie. He was loved admired by all,
especially me, and now he's no longer with us. Melania
and sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erica and

(41:03):
his family. Charlie, we love you. We do not have
a shooter a suspect if I don't even know if
you can get it online anymore. But the initial video
that came out that was up close, it was there

(41:25):
was somebody very close to me that is involved in
medicine that called and said, you cannot survive that. And
I looked at it and I just wanted I didn't
want to believe it. This was a young, thirty one
year old young man had his entire life ahead of him.
The conversations we've had, he was so hard working, so smart,

(41:49):
really believed in everything that he said and fought hard
for his relief. You know, young family, wife, two young
children that will never know their hero father. Somebody that
was willing to put himself at risk at all times
and go into hostile environments for conservatives, which I'll be honest,

(42:12):
I'm like, I remember one time I joke with him,
I said, why these people are crazy? He goes, That's
why I go. God speed, Charlie Kirk. Our prayers love
thoughts with him, his wife, his family will continue our
coverage on the other side.

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