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August 1, 2025 31 mins

Sean speaks with Dr. Mehmet Oz and HHS tech strategist Amy Gleason about revolutionary developments in American healthcare. The Biden administration hosted 60 major healthcare and tech companies pledging to modernize patient data access, eliminate fraud, and promote transparency. Dr. Oz details how the $50 billion Rural Health Transformation Fund will reshape Medicaid and reduce drug costs through Most Favored Nation pricing. Gleason shares a personal story of medical hardship and how AI and digital records could save lives. It's a hopeful, bipartisan look at the future of medicine.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
We have come in your wanna way.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I get Thomas saying you a conscience will I'll be
entire tell and if you want a little banging again.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
When you ain't come along.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Who's leaving the Democratic Party.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
There are lots of leaders.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm not going to go through names because then I'm
gonna leave somebody out and then I'm gonna hear about it. Nancy,
I might have to read that we're here to talk
about the sixtieth anniversary of Medicaid.

Speaker 6 (00:36):
That's what I agreed to come to talk.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, I wish I could say save for the executive branch,
Coace's doing his best to dismantle the constitution. I'm being
dead Earnest Man fredom.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Is back in style. Welcome to the.

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Speaker 7 (01:02):
The new Sean Hennity Show.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
More be I'm the scenes, information on freaking news and
more Bond inspired solutions for America. All right, thanks Scott
chan An Hour two Sean Hannity Show, toll free. It
is eight hundred and nine four one Sewan. If you
want to be a part of the program, you know,
one of the things that has frustrated me for many,
many years. Is Obamacare got shoved down our throat every

(01:29):
promise they made, keep your doctor, keep your plan, average
family saves twenty five hundred dollars a year. Okay, well,
the verdict is in, and millions and millions of Americans,
tens of millions of Americans lost their doctors and plans,
and the average family is paying about three hundred percent
more than what they were paying. And a full forty

(01:51):
percent of the country has access to only one Obamacare
exchange option, non particularly non particularly in We have had
on this program discussions because this matters to everybody. Healthcare
matters to everybody. I don't care. Any person I know,
doesn't matter what their age are, they worry to some

(02:11):
level about their health. I try not to waste my
time worrying about anything, but most people are concerned about
these things. Now there's new innovative ideas when it comes
to healthcare. Years ago, we talked a lot about a
Cato Institute book called Patient Power Healthcare Savings Accounts. We've
had on doctor Josh Umber on this program Atlas MD, Wichita, Kansas,

(02:34):
and they have a healthcare cooperative. It is now nationwide
he helped build out thousands of locations around the country.
Now he has his own atlas MD around the country
and that allows in the case of Wichita, at the time,
it was twenty four hour access to any doctor, as
many visits as you needed. Monthly it was fifty dollars

(02:55):
a month for an adult, ten dollars a month per child.
And he would negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies and in
most instances you would walk out of the doctor's office with,
you know, high blood pressure medicine, cholesterol medicine, whatever, whatever
you might need. He had access to all of it,
and you were painting about ninety five percent less. And

(03:16):
these are Telemedicine is now a big deal and is
definitely going to be the future of medicine. One of
the things that we learned is that we produce most
of the new medicines worldwide, but you know, other countries
would socialized medicine. We're getting far lower prices and people
in these other countries, even though we created the medication,

(03:39):
they're getting far lower prices. Until Donald Trump said that's
got to stop, and he created Most Favored Nation Drug
pricing in a letter signed by the President. Now in
the last thirty six hours. They have been huge for
the issue of healthcare. And I'm going to talk to
doctor Oz here in a second, because Democrats are demagoguing it.

(03:59):
They've been saying the one big beautiful bill is cutting
Medicaid and it's going to hurt old people and people
are going to die. All of these comments have been made.
The President hosted a massive gathering sixty of the largest
health and tech companies pledging to allow Americans to use
their own health data to stay healthy and get better

(04:19):
care from their doctors. It's going to save lives. They
put together a fifty billion dollar Rural Health Transformation Fund
that Congress is allowing doctor Oz to distribute by the
end of the year. But it's really better coming from
the horse's mouth. And doctor memt Oz is with us.
He is the seventeenth Administrator of the Centers for Medicare

(04:40):
Medicaid Services and Amy Gleason's Strategic Advisor to Health and
Human Services CMS and the acting Administrator of the US
Doze Service. Anyway, welcome both of you back to the program,
doctor Oz. This has been an innovative week. I've only
touched on how bad things have been I've only touched

(05:01):
on how things have been demagogue, and I've only touched
on how transformational medicine will be in the decades to come.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Well, you beautifully articulated the crisis, and you never want
to waste the crisis. We have increased spending on Medicaid
fifty percent in the last five years. Frankly, COVID broke
the bank and broke the system. And there are all
kinds of patchwork solutions that were thrown up by the
Biden administration, which I can regale you with, but I'd
rather look forward and speak to how we're going to

(05:30):
fix the problem. And the last forty eight hours have
been unique. But Wednesday afternoon, it started with one of
those magical moments in your life you can ever forget.
In the White House. The President wanted to host this
gathering of the sixty top health and technology leaders of
the country, and he asked them, He pushed them, he
squeezed them, and said, enough is enough. We have been

(05:53):
waiting and waiting and waiting. We've waited for information from
a doctor's office that we own to come to us.
We waited to make sure it was securely protected so
wouldn't get stolen by someone foreign country or or a
local person who was trying to take advantage of you.
We waited for access to transparency and the bills you
get from your hospital, from the pharmacy, and they wait

(06:15):
knows a lot of waiting for Washington, by the way,
to take action. So the presidents that we're done. Today's
the day we want you to commit in writing on
a pledge to address these issues that are so critical
to the well being of the American people, because we
have been frozen in time for sixty years, because that's
sixty years ago this week that Medicare and Medicaid were founded,

(06:36):
these beautiful backbone elements to the social stafty that of
our nation. It wasn't a giveaway, it wasn't a handout.
It was a hand up that would help Americans re
engage in life if they had issues there because they
were young, or they disabled, or just had some bad luck.
Get them back on their feet. Together. That's what great
people do. They help each other. Great nations protect their

(06:56):
most vulnerable, but they don't coddle people. They empowered beneficiaries,
the incentivized providers. And so to do this right, we
require tech transformation and this smartest person that I have met.
And I don't know if John, you travel, if you
have a passport and that you've gotten recently, you will
actually blush at how easy it has become. The when

(07:17):
we're going to the post office and all the waiting
for months and months for your passport to be missing.
It's literally done online two weeks. The woman who up
run that create that, Amy Gleeson, who introduced is on
theline as well, and she was the the state tip
of the spear on this program the President hosted on Wednesday,
and I want her to explain how we're going to
kill the clip for how we're going to help people

(07:38):
with chronic diseases, and we're going to be able to
crush fraud, waste and abuse as well by using information
the way other sectors of the US economy do for
the first time in healthcare. So Amy, I had it
to you.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Amy, I'd love to hear this. This is great news.
That's high praise from doctor Oz.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
He's an amazing leader. I'm so lucky to work with him.
Thank you for having me. The STMs is on a
mission to really modernize healthcare technology. Most other industries have
already become more efficient and effective using technology that healthcare
is still relying on fax machines, and doctors really struggled
to have the information they need to treat their patients.
And as individuals, every other part of our life has

(08:17):
been made better by technology. We can order groceries or
a ride and get results in minutes, but in healthcare,
we don't have those same kind of tools to keep
us well. And so this is also a very personal
story for me. I've dealt with these issues both in
caring for patients professionally, but I really started to understand
the challenges once my daughter was diagnosed with a rare
disease fifteen years ago when she was eleven. She started

(08:39):
having a bunch of mysterious symptoms. She was seeing all
the best doctors in the country, but she kept getting worse,
and she reached the point where she couldn't stand up
on her own or walk up the stairs. But we
still didn't have any answers, and I had to carry
binders of her records to every appointment to try to
keep those doctors aligned. But I truly believe that if
just one person I have been able to see her

(09:01):
whole entire medical record she could have been diagnosed sooner,
and if we had had today's AI, it could have
helped connect the dots that people had missed, and so.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Really well, I mean, that is the thing, you know.
I was interviewing Gary Brecker, and I know Doctor Oz
is friendly with him, and he's in the health space,
and he's a really smart guy. Believes in ten thousand
steps a day, believes in meditation and breathing exercises. He's
a big advocate of cold plunge, which, by the way,
I'm actually installing one of my house. I'm going to
try it myself. I'm going to try and cut back

(09:32):
on my nicotine pouches. Although I really like him a lot,
Doctor Oz. Don't yell at me because I don't want
to hear it. But he's actually saying that if you
can survive the next five years, the odds that you
will live to be one hundred go up exponentially. You
agree with that.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
I do agree with it. And by the way, I
offered you my cold plunge to come use it, and
you won't come. But I'll get to that later.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
But I'm doing it alone first. Gary Breker want to
do it on TV with them I'm like, I'm not
doing my first plunge. You know, cold I got a practice.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
You're a bold You'll be fine. But cold plunge is
a good example. You know, you wouldn't think about it,
but anytime you stress your body without hurting it, you're
improving a longevity. So you get into the cold water,
your body things, oh my gosh, this is terrible. I'm
gonna make adaptive changes to who I am or what
I do, and that actually stimulates all kinds of mechanisms
in yourselves. But you're actually not in danger because youre

(10:27):
getting get out of the cold plunge. You're not going
to die in the cold water. The same for running, exercising,
how you eat, intermittent fasting. But what Amy speaking to
is so big because imagine Sean, based on your medical records,
what you actually know about yourself is now known by
the doctor that's taking care of you. But you allow
any builtness, You allow that information to be shared with

(10:48):
companies that garys who are trying to help you. Now
he messages you, hey, Sean, you're supposed to not eat
breakfast till eleven, or you're supposed to go walking or
do the cold plunge at ten based on your energy
and your metabolism and your medical records and guess what
be your doctor's pretend you're trusting that capacity also as
access to that so I can say, Sean, you missed
your appointment, or you didn't pick up your meds or

(11:10):
and that's how we take people from being sick to healthy.
What Amy did was to take her daughter's potential tragedy,
her daughter's beautiful and doing while shoes at the bet
with the President on Wednesday, and allow that to catalyze
our nation to do things we should have done years ago.
I mean, why would you walk into a doctor's office
and write your name and your address and insures just

(11:32):
as qr CO look at getting on an airplane. It's
perfectly doable, Amy, Am.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I right, Yes, that's what we're really wanting to see
in about six months time, where when Morgan goes to
the doctor next, she can just pull out her phone
and scan her tap to share her medical record right away,
and it can be done with our digital insurance card
and a summary that could help the provider get up
to speed. That's much better and more efficient for everyone
than writing down all of her medications. And our entire history.

(11:59):
So we're really excited for that. And then we're also
thinking after the visit, she can have an app that
has an AI assistant that can help her really understand
what happened it's a visit, what the test results mean,
what she should watch out for next, and help her
understand her care plan and help her schedule follow up
when she needs it.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
All right, quick freak, Welcome back, More with Amy Gleeson,
More with doctor Oz on the other side. Then we'll
get to your calls coming up this Friday, eight hundred
and nine, four one sean, if you want to be
a part of the program. All right, we continue now
Doctor Oz is with us as well as Amy Gleeson
as we discuss healthcare in America. There's been a transformational week,
and in that regard, you need to know because everyone

(12:36):
cares about their health or you have a relative that
needs healthcare, there are a lot of big changes coming.
They're all positive and they're all innovative. Doctor Oz, can
you go into some detail in terms of why this
was so transformational this week? Why did the big lie?
People cannot believe the lies they're being told regularly because

(12:58):
it's being done for political purposes and what transformations can
people expect in the near term and the long term.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
It is I believe reprehensible that you would dishonestly con
people to thinking they're being hurt when we are pulling
out all the stops to help Americans feel as healthy
and as vital as they should have all along what
the President has done, and yet he embraced this digital
transformation that Amy has been launching because he appreciates how
big of an impact is they have just just with fraud,

(13:28):
waste and abuse and cutting back administrative costs. It's one
hundred billion dollars to our nation what Amy's putting together.
Let's talk about most favoridation pricing, which he released yesterday morning,
and it was a incredibly bold move where he says, guys,
we are done with global freeloading. We're not going to
let the American people put the bill to do all
the resource and development we pay them for more than

(13:49):
half in the world, and pay the price of the
drug that's three times more for the same product and
the same box we had in the same factory. I mean,
you've heard him to talk about this. He gets appropriately upset.
So if he's going to take the bold move in
his presidency of pushing people to convene. The power to
convene is important and he's using it. He sent us

(14:10):
out to battle the essay with that letter. He wants
every drug company to be honest about this. How much
are you making in America versus let's say Europe. Why
aren't the Europeans paying more? Can I get the US
Trade Representative? Can I get the Commerce Department under said Kaylett?
And they can We get all these folks working together,
and Bobby Kennedy, of course, the superstar, pushing for this
to be done in a mahawai. So we're helping people

(14:32):
get healthy. One of the ways you get healthy is
by taking medications if they're appropriate, and if you can't
afford them, or you have to choose between groceries and pills,
you're going to be in trouble number one cause the
bankruptcy in America, our health issues and the bills that
go along with it. So Amy's building a system so
you'll know everything that's happening in your life, including the
building desert they are coming your way, and what it

(14:53):
costs to get insurance and fixing the broken Obromacare model
and making Medicaid work better. The right persons appropriately get
these services, but the wrong person can't just freeload over
everybody else. The President does not get credit for this,
and he should. These are brave moves. People don't like
when you get in their way and take your money away.
There's probably one hundred and fifty people who control medicine

(15:16):
and they're making good money. When the President comes in
and says it's not right for the American people, I'm
taking this back from you. I'm put it over here
where they really need it. Guess who writes about that.
Folks who don't like you, and they make up stories,
and we live this day in and day out. I
don't know how he does it, because, as you know,
he's working tirelessly and bravely in pursuit of protecting America
and these initiatives. The last thirty six forty eight hours. Unbelievably,

(15:39):
we will look back on these last few days and
realize that was when it all began to switch back,
because there's no way you can lie about things this good.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Wow, Amy, we'll give you the last word. We got
about thirty five seconds.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Thank you. I think these companies that were amazing to
come and voluntarily agree to work together, even against the
direct competitors. Is a really big movement. You can see
from doctor Oza's leadership that we've really been able to
get these companies to work together. It's really important to
help both patients and doctors have better experience. Thank you
so much for having me today.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I love the idea of having everybody's healthcare on your
own phone and wherever you are, anytime anything happens, the
entire record is right there, and that could be so
helpful to saving lives and helping doctors do their job
a lot quicker amy. Thank you, Doctor Ross, Thank you,
we appreciate it. Keep up the great work. Everybody cares

(16:30):
about their health. I've always said that I think that
you know two liberal comics late night people that kind
of stand out from you know, the hack Jimmy Kimmel
and the hack Stephen Colbert and I don't know. I
don't hate Jimmy Fallon as much. I think he's just
not funny. He just doesn't do it for me. I

(16:51):
do like biting commentary, like I love Chris Rock, I
love I don't know who else do I love? I
love a lot of people. I love Chappelle, Linda, you
have your list of people you like, correct, I do? Okay, so,
but I like Stuart Stuart only I like. I hate
his commentary, I hate his politics. Same with Bill Maher.
You it's a fair characterization. I think it's fairly accurate

(17:13):
to say both of them pretty much hate me. Is
that a fair You would? You would? You would believe that, right?

Speaker 8 (17:19):
I don't think that John Stewart hates you. I actually
think that John Stuart is an ideologue.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
He and you guys.

Speaker 8 (17:25):
Actually have a lot of crossover. He just leans more
to the left, you more to the right. But on
nine to eleven in issues like that, I think you'd
probably meet in the middle.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Actually, I don't really think that we do agree on
nine to eleven related illnesses. I know we're here. What
I mean is there are there? There's definitely crossover. And
but the one thing that stands out, and even when
both of them have either attacked or made fun of me,
I can laugh because it's funny. Now Stuart rolled out

(17:56):
with a mocking impersonation of Jay Leno and and you know,
after a day watching Fox News and being bathed in
their very purposeful propaganda. He's talking about Greg Gutfeld. That's
a great way to top off your night. But it's
not the Jade Leno like you know, and then you
understand why you want to offend your audience. The problem

(18:16):
is these guys don't have any humor in them. They're
not funny. They have lost massive amounts of audience. You know.
He says, Wow, the whole thing is eving ridiculous, and
it is. If you look at social media profiles, all
the people that complain in the left wing bias, they're
all right wing influencers. They all make their money their
entire economy. Here's the question that he's not addressing though

(18:38):
in his comments, because he's he's making its them is like, well,
Fox has this ecosystem and then Greg Gutfeld comes on
and he's funny and and but he's he's ideologically funny,
and but that does not then why doesn't it work
on the left? Because you know, the one thing that
Fox has that they will never acknowledge is that we

(19:02):
tell people way more truth than you're ever gonna get
from fake news CNN or the lies and pedal conspiracy
theories of MSDNC that often get echoed in the New
York Times and Washington Post Russia Russia rushes. But one example.
I can give you other examples, the rush to judgment
in the Richard Jewel case. I could get a valuation

(19:25):
of Mara a Lago, the thirty one Trump though or
thirty four trumped up charges, you know, based on a
novel legal theory on what was a misdemeanor in New
York a legal non disclosure agreement, you know, that became
a conviction. But then Canada Trump, they don't see. Not
one of them ever said no, mar A Lago's not
worth eighteen million dollars. Not one of them ever said no,

(19:48):
this would be a misdemeanor in the statute of limitations
of runout. And even though I don't like Donald Trump,
the law should apply equally to him. Or the fact
that people rush to judgment, hands up, don't shoot. All
these networks, they all rushed to judgment. I had sources
on the ground telling me sean, multiple eyewitnesses will come out,

(20:09):
many of them African American, which in that case kind
of mattered because of Michael Brown. Hands up, don't shoot.
Darren Wilson, the officer happened to be white and it
was a racial component to the case, and they said, no,
multiple African American witnesses will corroborate Darren Wilson's story. And
in the case of Duke Lacrosse, oh, there a bunch
of rich white kids, and this is outrageous. And I

(20:34):
went to meet with the families. I met some of
these kids. I knew they had exculpatory evidence coming out.
I knew there was an eyewitness in the Zimmerman case
down in Florida, because I went down there, and I
knew that that testimony would come an eyewitness that would say, no,
it was Trayvon Martin that was doing the ground and

(20:56):
pound of on George Zimmerman. It was him screaming, it
was his head being pounded into the cement. So and
the same thing with Richard Jewel. I used this example
all the time. But here's what Stewart said about my
friend and colleague Greg gutfeld.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
The idea that by having what may be a more
left leaning or progressive bent, or just bringing in that's
how Fox is popular, That's how any of these people,
you know, they all talk about gutfeldts the most popular
yet he's not popular because he's a both sides guy.
He's not you know, a fair use like you know,
the fairness doctrine says like he's relentless, and you know,

(21:34):
after a day of watching Fox News and being bathed
in their very purposeful propaganda, it's a great way to
top off the night.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Well, why isn't it working for fake news CNN? Why
isn't it working for ABC, NBC and CBS. Why isn't
it working for MSDNC. Why is The New York Times now,
you know, flailing? You know, how do they get so
many stories wrong so often? And I don't think he's
answering that question. Now, why is he more successful? And

(22:08):
why is Bill mar more successful? And the answer to
me is they're funnier and probably I would assume in
both cases their shows make money. Now, if John Stewart's
going to continue to go after the new owners of CBS,
which is I guess Paramounts Guy Dan's a partnership that
they put together, I'm not sure what the final name
of the company's going to be. I would imagine he's

(22:30):
probably putting his job in jeopardy. And like Stephen Colbert
may want to go out of martyr. I don't know.
I really don't. By the way, did you see the
call for Stuart to run for president? Did you see that?
I did not see that. Yeah, I mean talk about
a copycat yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

(22:53):
This is a manufactured executive producer thing. This has nothing
to do with Sean Hanny is.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
The total hogwash. I do not control the American people.
I do not tell people to call in. I do
not write things on social media that have anything to
do with this. People are free to write what they want,
and I am free to notice and make you aware.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
And that's all that happened, all right. Charlotmaine, the god
said the Democrats sucks so bad, and apparently he wants
Jon Stewart to run.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
I would John Stewart run in twenty if we're talking
about like a change agent coming from the outside that's
really going to shape things up, and somebody that I
feel I can speak to, you know, all people. Plus
we actually he's a celebrity who actually knows what they're
talking about. We've seen him get legislation and stuff you know,
passed before, Like we know where his heart is. He'd

(23:43):
be somebody i'd like to see really getting the race
and disrupt things in two thousand and twenty eight, Well,
maybe maybe a John Stewart cob A ticket because you know,
Cobert's not going to have a job. He's not working
because because of President Trump.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
So they say that would guarantee that that ticket would
lose if you put a cold bear on it. Let's
go to Genie in the great state of Texas. God
bless Texas. Genie. How are you happy Friday? Glad you called?

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Thank you for Happy Friday to you too. I basically
am coming in because I started listening to you a
while back, probably in my late thirties early thirties, and
prior to that, I've never voted because I didn't not
did not know enough about politics, never trusted anybody on
air to follow along with them until I ran across
she so.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Uh, well, I'm very first of all, thanks for having
an open mind. I mean, there are people that make
judgments about me all the time, and most of the
people that will either comment or make judgments about me
don't listen and don't watch me. But I tried. I
try to give news and information that you won't get elsewhere.
So I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
That's what I feel. I feel like that you're very honest.
I don't think that you'd cover up. I don't think
that you're what's the word I'm looking for, bias. So
I want to thank you because I started voting after
I started listening to you. And if I have questions
about politics, I come to your and watch you on
Fox News and I pay attention and then I start

(25:11):
doing my own research. But you're the reason why I
started voting. And I will say this, with all the
corruption and stuff that I have learned from watching you
and Fox News and other stations, I never voted for
whether it was a Democrat or a Republican because I
was not one of them. I voted for who I
thought was best for overall, not just for me, but
for the overall nation. But now I'll never vote for

(25:33):
another Democrat.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Not this party of Democrats. I'll tell you that. I mean,
they've gotten absolutely crazy. Well, I'm very grateful for you.
Thanks for being out there, thanks for having an open mind.
You are what has makes what makes America great. All right,
quick break right back. We'll continue more of your calls
coming up this Friday. Eight hundred and ninety four to one,
sewn our number if you want to be a part
of the program, and what's on your mind this Friday

(25:58):
will continue great ahead.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
The final hour of The Sean Hannity Show was up next.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Hang on for Sean's conservative solutions on all right, let's
get back to our busy phones. Our toll free number

(26:28):
is eight hundred ninety four one Sean, if you want
to be a part of the program, Linda. One of
the main criticisms that this show gets, or my TV
show gets, and it's warranted. And I do it purposely.
And I've explained this before in different ways. But I
have another example. Do you remember during COVID you were

(26:51):
you were getting annoyed with me? And why were you
getting annoyed with me? Because I kept mentioning, if you
get a positive test, ask your doctor about what boniclonal antibodies? Okay,
And you said, you say it four times a day.
You've been saying it for months. Stop shut up. We've
heard you enough already. And I said, the problem is

(27:14):
if I only say something once or twice, or five times,
or even ten times, most people are not going to
recall this. They don't immerse themselves in this world that
we live in every day, which is news, news, news,
So you have to repeat yourself a lot to get
a narrative going. I do it every election year, and

(27:36):
I do it by design and on purpose, and for
regular listeners it may at times get annoying. But the
goal and the hope is is that over time, you know,
if I start in January, by June or July, people
are going to be able to talk to their friends
and neighbors and co workers and relatives, and they're going

(27:59):
to be a an educated, well informed voter that can
counter any argument that can be made. Right. Does that
make sense to you in theory?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Okay, Now, when after you criticized me, I said, well,
let's do a test. And I went from caller to
call her, to call her, to call to call her.
What does Sean tell you to do if you get
a positive test? What should you ask your doctor for
COVID during the time? And and how many callers got it?
Right after you were complaining that I said it too much. No,

(28:35):
that caller said it begins with an M. No, he
said mana. He said mona, mana, mona, mana.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
Close I'm gonna take it if I take it as
a half a win.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
He said, all right, I'll give you a mono. But
that's about as close as he got. I remember m
but that's fine. Let's not split hairs here. But most
people didn't. And that was kind of surprising to you,
if I recall at the time, right, yeah, Okay, how
many times have I said on this radio program Hillary
Clinton's bought and paid for Russian disinformation, dirty dossier? With

(29:11):
this story, how much more understandable do you think it
might be for busy people that are doing great things
for our country because stupid, dumb, all repetitive Sean Hannity
said it over and over again.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
I mean, I think that particular topic unfortunately, no matter
how many times you're drive it in, people just know
that nothing's ever gonna happen, so they don't commit it
to memory.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I'm not as pessimistic as you, but I am not
overly optimistic either.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
I think the only person is going to go down,
and I think it's a toss up. And I was
talking to Greg Jared about this the other day.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Course up, give you my.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
Prediction, and then we got a break clapper or go ahead?

Speaker 3 (29:54):
I'm gonna I'm guessing who You're gonna pick Clapper and
I'm sorry Brandan and Clapper or Brennan and call me
or all.

Speaker 8 (30:02):
So I think I think it's Clapper is a flip
and Brennan is a sink.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
What about collmy? I think Komy's going to skate.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
He's got too much dirt on too many people.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
So does his kid?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I don't know. Does it make sense? Is this the
right approach? Because I know that people will never get
this information. Most people would never know about the Russia.
I think it's a valiant effort.

Speaker 8 (30:27):
I just think that when people know that the government
will never and can never arrest them, just like we'll
never get all the Epstein stuff because there's too many
people in too many places that are high up that.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
We're ever going to get the truth. I am more
confident than you, but I refuse to overpromise and under deliver.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
I am.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I do believe over time that stuff is going to happen.
I am hopeful, but I am not raising expectations because
that would be wrong anyway. Good idea. So there's a
method to my madness, you know. But during an election,
I'm going to make sure every single person on this
show has Sean Hannity's list of why they shouldn't vote
for a Democrat, why they should vote for a Republican.

(31:07):
I'm just that's just the way I roll. And anyway
I saw a criticism, I'm like, all right, this is
a valid criticism, It's true, and I just want to
address that head on. That is a true statement. We
have to repeat ourselves because the media doesn't do their job.
They lie, and they pedal conspiracies, and they by the way,
they repeat their lies.

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