July 14, 2025 • 30 mins
Sean Hannity sits down with David Schoen, Jeffrey Epstein’s former attorney, to address the media firestorm surrounding Epstein’s death, the so-called "client list," and Trump’s connection—or lack thereof. Schoen unequivocally clears Trump’s name and blasts the hypocrisy of the political Left.
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Worsening violence against ICE agents and federal officers
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Secret Service failures before the Trump assassination attempt
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The rising threat of Iranian-backed terrorist plots on U.S. soil
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New outrage over Biden’s use of an autopen for major policy decisions
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Kristi Noem and Tom Homan push back on left-wing immigration lies
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stay right here for our final news round up and
information overload.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Right News round Up and Information Overload. Our toll free
our number is eight hundred and nine to four one,
Shawn if you want to be a part of the program. Obviously,
while I was away last week, the Jeffrey Epstein story
blew up in a major way, and I've been in
contact with a lot of people, talk to a lot
of people, including those people involved in this. And the
(00:27):
one person that really I think may know more than
anybody and may be able to shed enough light on
things is our friend David Shoon, who is an Attorney's
going to join us in just a minute, but no
other reason is he was Jeffrey Epstein's attorney for a
period of time and spoken with the guy for months.
(00:50):
And anyway, he's former president President Trump's former council and
advised Epstein for a year and then took over his
entire criminal case. Anyway, quote, I was hired to lead
Jeffrey Epstein's defense as his criminal lawyer nine days before
he died. He sought my advice for months before that.
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I can authoritatively, unequivocally and definitively say that he had
no information to hurt President Trump, and I specifically asked him,
and he also went on to say in an interview
that it was important to Jeffrey Epstein to make clear
to me that he did not have any bad information
about President Trump. Didn't like people being falsely accused of
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having been associated with him in some illegal way. And
it's not surprising considering Trump's DOJ is the one that
arrested Epstein, and Trump is known to be the only
one who openly cooperated with Epstein victim's lawyer. And this
goes all the way back to two thousand and nine.
He's been a lot of wild you know, talks about
(01:54):
all of this. Anyway, our friend David Shona is with us. Now,
how are you fine?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Thanks? How were you nice to be on the show?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I don't know. And I was thinking about this because
you're such a decent human being and I've known you
for so long, and I know everybody deserves the defense,
and I know this guy has values that are the
just absolute antithesis of who you are. But you also
believe that everybody has a right to an attorney. And
(02:24):
like Alan Dershwitz, for example, has been involved in a
lot of high profile controversial cases with controversial people, including
this one. Was that hard for you?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It really wasn't. I mean, first of all, I never
saw this monstrous side that people have, you know, painted
him out to be. I saw him as a guy, frankly,
when I met him. You know, he's sort of a
lonely guy who had a lot of rich friends, and
all of those folks had no problem ever associating with them,
you know, so who's who of wealthy people and successful people.
They only cut their ties with him after he got indicted.
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So you know, listen as you say, I believe strongly,
h deeply, and from the bott of my heart, everyone
deserves a defense, and I was. I saw this as
a real challenge in this case, and to be perfectly
frank maybe it's ego or otherwise, but it's also why
I became a cano defense lawyer. When I heard from
him that I was the only lawyer in the world
he trusted with his life, that motivated me more to
fight for him.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Understood, But do you you don't have any doubts that
this guy was a cret.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I don't know, you know, I don't have jud on people.
I'd presume everybody to be innocent before he's convicted, unlesson
until he's convicted.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
He had the well he did, he did have the
early conviction in Florida.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's right, no question about it. And I would say
I had, you know, just about nothing in common with him.
But you know, my defense of a guy really is
focused on what the charges are against him and trying
to help him or out of their legal problems. So
you know, that's how I approached this case. And you know,
as I say, as I said before he introduced me
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to a lunch date of his who was former prime
minister of a country and so on, all of these
people enjoyed his company. So whether it was creep or not,
you know, you have a lot of wealthy, successful people
who loved being around him.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, I mean, he seemed like a starchaser to me.
But I mean everything you read about, you know, all
these young girls seemingly groomed and quote hired as messuses
and so on and so forth, that just the whole
thing just is repulsive to me. It also brings up
an issue that we have talked at length about on
this show. And you know I mentioned this to Linda
(04:34):
earlier today, and Linda, you can weigh in. I mean,
for how many years on this program. And by the way,
Linda being at the impetus of a lot of it
because it happens to be an issue she cares so
much about. You know that we had, you know, agents
for decades of their life just just trying to deal
with the sex trafficking of young children into our country.
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And the numbers are in the hundreds and hundreds of thousands,
and nobody ever paid attention to us when we report
on this. How many times have we reported on that, Linda.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I mean more times than I care to count. It's
it's very sad that we even have to.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We reported on it, but nobody ever paid attention to it.
And then it was some frustration. For example, I remember
what's his name is.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Sarah Rhodos, So Tara Rhodos was the hhs swhistleblower. She
went up against exavior E Pisara's right and it was
a huge mess. And then you know, they wanted to
fire her and get rid of her, which they did,
and then she ended up getting back into another job
in the ADMIN. But you know her and her husband.
Her husband happens to be from Ecuador, so she's fluent Spanish,
fluent in English. They're housing these children, and then they
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were taking them to places that were supposed to be
safe houses, and it would be a warehouse or a
strip joint. And so they were asking the question, like,
what the hell's going on? Why are we sing?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
We had we had DHS agents that spent their entire
career just working on the issue of the sex trafficking
of children. And you know how shocking it was this
sheer number of people. I mean, there are a lot
of really disgusting people in the world, all right. So
putting aside your personal feelings about Ebstein and putting aside
the sweetheart plea deal that he got in Florida back
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in the day, just for a minute, here you were
advising him for almost the year, correct, He was in
contact with you for that period of time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Probably more than a year. He was having me review
his lawyer's work in the case in Florida in which
it had been reopened or potentially reopened because the victims
hadn't gotten proper notice from the government in the case.
He had a whole battery of top notch lawyers in
the country and so on. But at some point, you know,
he asked me to review their work before he was
filing it, and so that's how we sort of reinitiated
(06:43):
that relationship. And then at some point a few months
before he died, he asked me to come to his
home in New York to take over all of his litigation.
I didn't feel I was in a position to do that,
but then we kept in regular sort of daily touch,
asking me for advice on different things.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, now you talked about and Alan Dershwitz has said,
and Dershwitz was very familiar with this, that there was
never any list, and you said that he had no
incriminating evidence about President Trump and that you specifically asked
about that. And by the way, if there was incriminating
evidence on Trump, don't you think that the Biden DOJ
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would have released it?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Remember in the Maxwell case, you had Comy's daughter as
the prosecutor in the case. If anyone expects me to
believe that if they were incriminating evidence about President Trump,
and it would it wouldn't have been leaked by that
office you know for years already. Then you know again,
sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. I don't buy it at all.
Too many people have touched all of the related documents
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in this case for there have been anything about it.
But in any way they say it would have at
the time I asked him, it would have been in
his interest to tell all of the information that he
had anything bad that President Trump. Remember I didn't even
know President Trump at that time you're talking about twenty nineteen.
I didn't meet President Trump until a couple of weeks
before the impeachment trial. So he had no interest in
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telling me to try to, you know, satisfy me about anything.
This is at the time in his life when it
would have served him to have served up to the
government all in any and all information he had about
prominent people who the government might have wanted to go after,
and President Trump wouldn't have been the only one. So
I don't find it at all surprising that there's no
client list. I wouldn't have thought there would be. He
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never ever spoke to me about blackmailing anybody or anything
like that. And I think, now you see this hypocrisy
that we've identified so many times over and over and
over again. To have Jamie Raskin demanding the list and
all of these things. Where was he the last you know, five, six,
seven years. Where was he during the Biden administration about
the records and the documents after Steen passed away. It's hypocrisy.
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And what they're doing now by raising this is such
an issue, they're empowering groups like The New York Times
to focus on the chaos and to play into play
of this all up when you've got so many fabulous
things going on in the world with this is right now,
between the economy, Middle East you're gonna expand the Abraham
Accords and all that, there is nothing about this Jeffrey
Epstein story that's gonna make America great that I can
(09:09):
promise you well.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But you know what I hear And may maybe Miranda
used the right term in saying that, you know it
was it was handled in a clumsy way. Yes, And
my understanding is that the tapes were not tapes of
Epstein and victims, but the tapes were kitty porn that
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he had downloaded. Were you aware that you know he
was that creepy?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I never spoke whatsoever about anything like that with him,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I I if there's you know, maybe one thing that
I hope comes out of this more than anything else
is the level of child sex trafficking in this country.
It is shocking.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We pointed out there are three hundred and fifty plus
thousand children that entered our country illegally under Biden and Harris.
We don't know where these children are. We don't know,
and kids are being sold into sex slavery daily, and
that these perverts a I mean, this is a problem
(10:16):
of a much larger magnitude based on past interviews we've
done on this show, then most people know, and that
here here's a living hell out of me as a parent.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Myself absolutely deserve great credit for it. And President Trump
as this is a priority also, this is part of
his immigration program. But again we lose it, you know,
as far as through the trees. These folks, you know,
they pick out an issue and they attack him or
administration on this one issue here, and I think they've
really lost sight of what's going on. They think, for
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a second, the President Trump is trying to cover up
for Bill Clinton or somebody else who would be in
those files, you know, arguably Prince Andrew and so on.
It's just not true.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
There's got to be something with Prince Andrew. I mean, obviously,
you know the way the royal family reacted was and
in my view, very appropriate, if not in the disastrous
interview he gave was awful. But anyway, we appreciate your time, David.
Thank you. David. Showan eight hundred and nine four one,
Shawn our number if you want to be a part
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of the program. All right, we continue with Jeffrey Epstein's
former attorney, David Shon is with us. David, I want
to be really really clear here between the Palm Beach case,
which I thought was a sweetheart deal that never should
have been given, and all the allegations that have been
made by women to me that are very, very credible.
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And I agree everybody that's accused has the right to
an attorney, and you've taken on controversial cases your entire career.
But when I look at and I hear these things,
it makes my blood boil even thinking about it. And
I know who you are as a person, and I
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know you believe everybody but he should have the right
to a defense. But you kind of also have your
hands tied here in terms of what you can say
and can't say because attorney client privilege. It continues into
the grave, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
You're absolutely right, John Iman, Yes, it continues after a
person's death, and you're right, it's a difficult situation. But
you know, this is a profession that I chose. I've
represented a lot of people who you know, you wouldn't
want to spend nobody would want to spend any time with.
But that's part of the challenge of this profession. But
you're right, there are many things that I cannot talk
about and would not talk about because the privileged. Just
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last week, after I came out with this truth about
President Trump not being inculpated and culpiated in any way,
somebody actually took action against me. But I'm not ashamed
to do that either. That was something that he wanted
Epstein want to put out there because he did want
you know, President Trump's name cleared nobody to cast in
the as persions against him. But you're right, in this situation,
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I'm not really free to discuss my personal feelings or
anything like that. This is a defense that I took
on and there is an attorney client privilege that goes
beyond his death. And uh, you know, I don't speak
about any of the other things that we discussed if
they were at all privileged.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But you certainly understand, you know, the general public reading
this and hearing about the magnitude of it, the the
natural outrage people have. And I think that the outrage
is justified, especially when you're talking about young people as
as victims or potential victims.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
In this case, I understand it on only the only
issue reason now that I'm speaking out as it was
initiated because mister Musk made some suggestions about President Trump
that the reason these files weren't disclosed because he was
hiding something about himself and so on that simply wasn't true.
And I could not permit that to be part of
the public dialogue because I am in a position to
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know that, and I wanted to authoritatively disabuse anyone of
that notion. Beyond that, you know, I don't comment on
Strepstein's conduct and so on. I perfectly well understand the
public perception and the public animus toward him and this situation. Well,
I don't believe it was suicide, and I say that
for two reasons. I met with him nine days before
he died. He hired me to take over his case,
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subject to either my bringing my own team in or
seeing if his folks wanted to, you know, would accept that,
and I didn't think that they would. He gave me
another task that he asked me to do that was
only forward looking, and I know that during that week
he was giving out orders consistent with the defense that
we were planning in his case. But more importantly, perhaps
is that doctor Michael Biden participated in the as an
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outside independent examiner in the forensic examination of his body.
And he has said many times, first of all that
the medical examiner on site was the assistant, said she
could not come to any conclusion. But secondly that he
has done tens of thousands of autopsies and he's never
seen injuries like this consistent with a suicide. So the
idea that anyone now can say definitively, oh, this was
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a suicide, I just don't buy that. But I don't
have any conspiracy theory that anyone who killed them or otherwise.
I just don't think it's fair to anyone conclusively say
it was a suicide. For those reasons.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
David Schollan appreciate your time, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
More Hannity Less Big Government.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
This is the Sean Hannity Show. Hi twenty five now
till the top of the hour, eight hundred and ninety
four one. Sean, if you want to be a part
of the program. I mentioned this earlier. I am beyond disgusted.
I do cast blame an aspersion on people and the
rhetoric and the groups that are out there putting ICE
(15:37):
agents lives in jeopardy. But Yo, let's give out the
location of a potential attack on ICE agents. Well, it's happening.
It's happening left and right. You know, you got a
guy ramming an ICE vehicle with his car in Linda Vista, California,
before three activists attacking agents. Then you have nearly a
(15:59):
dozen violent assailants equipped with tactical gear and weapons attacking
ICE agents at a detention facility in Texas. The attack
occurred just days before an armed activist shot a US
border official in McCallen, Texas, coordinated, you know, to vandalize
the facility and disrupt operations there. There are eleven suspects
(16:22):
in that attack. The FBI arrested ten of the eleven,
and it's only the tip of the iceberg. He had
a gunman that identified open fire at an entrance of
a US border patrol Sector annex and McCallen that suspect
neutralized by law enforcement who acted heroically to stop the
shooter before there was any loss of life. And another
(16:45):
McCallen police officer shot in the leg and a Border
Patrol officer Border Patrol of employee sustaining injuries. Then you
have outside the San Francisco Immigration Court of videos shared
by ICE capturing a tense altercation between agents and protesters.
Then you got footage posted on x showing mass protesters
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scuffling with ICE agents wielding batons. Get back, get back.
Agents are heard trying to protect themselves. Then you had
federal law enforcement officers executing criminal warrant operations at marijuana
grossites and Carpenter Rehea and Camarillo out in California. During
(17:26):
the operation, ten illegal immigrant children were rescued from potential exploitation,
forced labor, human trafficking. You know, a Democratic congressman allegedly
took part in a violent mob attack on ICE agents.
This was in the Washington Times. You know, it's it's
it's pretty unbelievable, what's going on. And then the LA
Mayor Karen Bass announced the new cash giveaway plan for
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Biden illegals, and she claims the cash will come from
the city's philanthropic partners, and she says, there is a
need for me to have an executive directive to help
our city understand how to protect itself from our federal government.
That basically means get in the way, even though we
do have a constitution a supremacy clause and jurisdiction lies
(18:15):
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to this immigration issue. Tom Holman was at a turning
point event this weekend. Challenging a heckler to meet him
(20:09):
off stage. Listen to this. That's not what they wanted.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
They're playing the long game.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Let's release them in the community.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Wait three or five years the bardon me?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Are you an NS thirteen member?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
It says, hey, hey, that's okay, that's okay. I got
a question. No, no, no, I got a question for you.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Why don't you come up here and hand me that picture?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Br bringa brea USA, yousa?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
All right?
Speaker 6 (21:00):
They got MORENS like this are of the country.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
This guy, this guy wouldn't like the surface nation.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
This guy ain't got the balls to be a nice officer.
Do you ever got the balls to be a born chorgan?
This guy lives in his mother's basement. The only thing
that surprises me. You don't have purple hair and a
nose drink. Get out of here, your loser. And and
you're such a badass being me off stage in thirteen
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minutes and fifty seconds.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You know, I've tried hard to get Tom Holman to laugh.
Uh uh. All business, all business, And he is passionate
about keeping our cities in town safe from all of
the Biden heresy, illegals and known terrorists. And we learned
today another you know, more Ranian assassination squads, and we
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have cartel members and gang members and murderers and rapists
and other violent criminals all on vetted thanks to Joe
Kamala may Orcus. Here's Christy Nome being grilled on NBC
over the treatment of detainees at Alligator Alcatraz. Oh, I
didn't know that all these illegals should have room service. Listen.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Alligator Alcatraz Congressman DeBie Wasserman Schultz said that the conditions
there are in humane. More than thirty people stuffed into
a jail cell. She said, they get their drinking water
and they brush their teeth from the same place where
they go to the bathroom. Madame Secretary, what do you
say to these lawmakers who argue this is not humane
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treatment of individuals of humans?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Well, our detention centers at the federal level are held
to a higher standard than most local or state centers,
and even federal prisons. The standards are extremely high. Now,
this is a state run facility at Alligator Day half
stuffed into a jay. Have a contrast. I've been there
and I've seen these rooms that they are in. I
wouldn't call them jail cells, would call them a facility
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where they are held and that are secure facilities, but
are held to the highest levels of what the federal
government requires for detention facility.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Democrats have called them pages, though I.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Wish they would have set that ball during the Biden
administration and back when Democrats were in the White House
and they were piling people on top of each other
on cement floors and literally didn't have two feet to move.
They never did that, and that's why this politics has
to end.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And then, you know, in the same interview, Christy Nolam
is confronted, you know, over reports that of thousands of
unanswered calls to FEMA after the Texas flood, which is
not true.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Listen, The New York Times is reporting that thousands of
calls from flood victims to FEMA call centers went unanswered
in the middle of this ongoing disaster because you didn't
renew contracts to keep call center staff in place until
nearly one week after the floods. Why did it take
so long to extend those contracts.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Those contracts were in place, Nobody, no employees were off
of work. Every one of them was answering calls so false,
reporting fake news, and it's discouraging. It's discouraging that during
this time, when we have such a loss of life
and so many people's lives have turned upside down, that
people are playing politics with this. Because the response time
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was immediate, and if you talk to anyone in Texas
that was there that was a part of this operation,
they would say the federal government and President Trump immediately responded.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Just to be very clear, on July seventh, fifteen point
nine percent of calls were answered. I mean, does that
concern you that only fifteen percent of calls were in
So these were people in a desperate state. FEMA often
the first call that they make. Only fifteen percent were
insted on July seventh, several days after the flood.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
These contracts were in place, and those people were in
those call centers and they were picking up the phone
and answering one.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Other issue before we head to our busy phones. We're
learning more about this Trump assassination attempt. Everything I told
you at the time, this was not a slope roof. Well,
Kimberlee Cheto that then had the Secret Service said was
just false. And I say this as somebody that did
roofing and fell off a roof, a steep slope roof,
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not a fake slope, proof that she was claiming this was.
And the worst part of this is they had threats
as many as ten days in advance, and those threats
were never shared with any other law enforcement that was
at the event, and nothing was done to up the
security of then candidate Donald Trump. As we one year
(25:30):
away from it, it seems like a lifetime ago. But anyway,
here's pat fallon on Trump's assassination attempt. Not only did
the Secret Service not share the threat intel with other agencies,
they didn't share it with Trump's detail.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Yesterday was the one year anniversary President Trump's assassination attempt
in Pennsylvania. That report wouldvealed that the Secret Service knew
there was a threat ten days before the rally, they
didn't share any information with local and federal law enforcement. Congressman,
you were a member of the Congressional task force that
investigates in all of this. What are the next steps?
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What else needs to happen so that this does not
happen again, especially in the era where and now we
find ourselves when there's more political violence.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Ceril Not only did the Secret Service not share this
with other agencies, they didn't share it with President Trump's
detail that Iran was posed a dire threat to President
Trump's life, he should have been receiving at that time
because it was very unique circumstance. He was the former president,
he was a nation state was trying to assassinate him
for actions he took as president. He was also the
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leading candidate to be the next president, which he is now.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
He should have had.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
A security that was commisserate with a sitting US president
because of the unique nature of who who he was,
who he is, and the threat at that time.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I mean, how can they be that incompetent? Pretty unbelievable.
All Right, to our busy phones we go as we
say hi to Don in Iowa. Hey, Don, how are
you glad you called?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Sir hi show. Thank you very much for taking my call.
I appreciate you, and naturally your whole crew because they're
all great, Linda and Katie and.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Uh, they're great a lot of the time.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Oh yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Linda's going to be quiet on that one.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Listen, it's your first day back. I'm giving you a
pass tomorrow, and I'm all in so enjoy it while
you can.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
My friend giving me a pass today, I get a
passed out. Yes today, I'm getting a pass today. I'm
not going to be in trouble. No New York on
me today as right tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
It's one like Donkey Kongs.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I enjoy it well last Well, now that you live
in Pennsylvania, why do you still keep the New York action?
Why don't you get rid of it?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Why not? Why can't I be me?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Why you gotta hate not hating? You know, you're just
jealous because you lost yours.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
That's okay. When you get tired, it still comes out.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Don what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Still love the steak and cheese up, so it's okay
to keep the accent. No thank you. Seriously, what everybody's
been talking about a lot is the use of the
auto pen. And what's got me wondering is if they're
looking into the investigation of the autopen being used to
(28:10):
cancel the oil the natural guest shipments to Europe, which
gave Russia the power over Europe to start the war
that they started. I mean, Joe Biden gave an interview
said he didn't even know they canceled the natural gaest
shipments and you know, him not knowing again, gave Russia
(28:31):
all the power in the world to supply the natural
gas to Europe. And when Germany protested against their build
up or against Ukraine, Putin just told them you either
mind your own business or was shut off the gas
and freezier people. And that was all all what I've read,
you know, as true facts.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
There's a lot happening this week as it relates to
you know, the President has done everything humanly possible to
make a deal with Vladimir Putin. Now there are you know,
we're expecting the cease fire where we now know the
President has authorized monies to go to NATO for Ukrainian
defense if they if they choose to so use it
(29:12):
that way. And this is not these are not freebies.
They're going to pay for the They're going to pay
for all of it, the munitions that they're going to buy.
I think that's very, very smart, and you know, I
think we've got to get to the bottom of all
of this, to.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Be honest, absolutely, And like I said, I think that
in itself is huge just to find out, you know,
was the auto pen used for that purpose?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Because I'd like to know. I mean, look, this became
a proxy war under Biden and Harris of the US
versus Putin. It never should have evolved into that. And
and Joe Biden said idly by did nothing as Putin
was amassing troops and his military might on the border
with Ukraine, and was asked, well, what happens if they invaded? Well,
(29:58):
it depends if it's a minor incursion. And look at
the result. It's been a disaster anyway, Don and I
we appreciate you call, buddy, Thank you, God bless you are.
The inter reupt things up for today. Hannity Tonight nine
Eastern Fox News, We are back. We have the Hannity
White House Briefing with Caroline Levett Lindsey Graham. The battle
(30:18):
against Russia continues as the President threatens to cut off
Russia from the world from world trade by imposing one
hundred percent tariffs and giving and selling weaponry to NATO. Also,
is it true? Is it possible? Well ask John Solomon
and James Comer. The FBI opens a grand conspiracy probe
(30:39):
on the weaponization the last ten years of the Deep
States treatment of Donald Trump. How important is this? I
think very John Solomon, James Comer, Ted Cruz, Jimmy Fayla
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Stay right here for our final news round up and
information overload.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Right News round Up and Information Overload. Our toll free
our number is eight hundred and nine to four one,
Shawn if you want to be a part of the program. Obviously,
while I was away last week, the Jeffrey Epstein story
blew up in a major way, and I've been in
contact with a lot of people, talk to a lot
of people, including those people involved in this. And the
(00:27):
one person that really I think may know more than
anybody and may be able to shed enough light on
things is our friend David Shoon, who is an Attorney's
going to join us in just a minute, but no
other reason is he was Jeffrey Epstein's attorney for a
period of time and spoken with the guy for months.
(00:50):
And anyway, he's former president President Trump's former council and
advised Epstein for a year and then took over his
entire criminal case. Anyway, quote, I was hired to lead
Jeffrey Epstein's defense as his criminal lawyer nine days before
he died. He sought my advice for months before that.
(01:11):
I can authoritatively, unequivocally and definitively say that he had
no information to hurt President Trump, and I specifically asked him,
and he also went on to say in an interview
that it was important to Jeffrey Epstein to make clear
to me that he did not have any bad information
about President Trump. Didn't like people being falsely accused of
(01:34):
having been associated with him in some illegal way. And
it's not surprising considering Trump's DOJ is the one that
arrested Epstein, and Trump is known to be the only
one who openly cooperated with Epstein victim's lawyer. And this
goes all the way back to two thousand and nine.
He's been a lot of wild you know, talks about
(01:54):
all of this. Anyway, our friend David Shona is with us. Now,
how are you fine?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Thanks? How were you nice to be on the show?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I don't know. And I was thinking about this because
you're such a decent human being and I've known you
for so long, and I know everybody deserves the defense,
and I know this guy has values that are the
just absolute antithesis of who you are. But you also
believe that everybody has a right to an attorney. And
(02:24):
like Alan Dershwitz, for example, has been involved in a
lot of high profile controversial cases with controversial people, including
this one. Was that hard for you?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It really wasn't. I mean, first of all, I never
saw this monstrous side that people have, you know, painted
him out to be. I saw him as a guy, frankly,
when I met him. You know, he's sort of a
lonely guy who had a lot of rich friends, and
all of those folks had no problem ever associating with them,
you know, so who's who of wealthy people and successful people.
They only cut their ties with him after he got indicted.
(02:57):
So you know, listen as you say, I believe strongly,
h deeply, and from the bott of my heart, everyone
deserves a defense, and I was. I saw this as
a real challenge in this case, and to be perfectly
frank maybe it's ego or otherwise, but it's also why
I became a cano defense lawyer. When I heard from
him that I was the only lawyer in the world
he trusted with his life, that motivated me more to
fight for him.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Understood, But do you you don't have any doubts that
this guy was a cret.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I don't know, you know, I don't have jud on people.
I'd presume everybody to be innocent before he's convicted, unlesson
until he's convicted.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
He had the well he did, he did have the
early conviction in Florida.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's right, no question about it. And I would say
I had, you know, just about nothing in common with him.
But you know, my defense of a guy really is
focused on what the charges are against him and trying
to help him or out of their legal problems. So
you know, that's how I approached this case. And you know,
as I say, as I said before he introduced me
(03:59):
to a lunch date of his who was former prime
minister of a country and so on, all of these
people enjoyed his company. So whether it was creep or not,
you know, you have a lot of wealthy, successful people
who loved being around him.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, I mean, he seemed like a starchaser to me.
But I mean everything you read about, you know, all
these young girls seemingly groomed and quote hired as messuses
and so on and so forth, that just the whole
thing just is repulsive to me. It also brings up
an issue that we have talked at length about on
this show. And you know I mentioned this to Linda
(04:34):
earlier today, and Linda, you can weigh in. I mean,
for how many years on this program. And by the way,
Linda being at the impetus of a lot of it
because it happens to be an issue she cares so
much about. You know that we had, you know, agents
for decades of their life just just trying to deal
with the sex trafficking of young children into our country.
(04:57):
And the numbers are in the hundreds and hundreds of thousands,
and nobody ever paid attention to us when we report
on this. How many times have we reported on that, Linda.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I mean more times than I care to count. It's
it's very sad that we even have to.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We reported on it, but nobody ever paid attention to it.
And then it was some frustration. For example, I remember
what's his name is.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Sarah Rhodos, So Tara Rhodos was the hhs swhistleblower. She
went up against exavior E Pisara's right and it was
a huge mess. And then you know, they wanted to
fire her and get rid of her, which they did,
and then she ended up getting back into another job
in the ADMIN. But you know her and her husband.
Her husband happens to be from Ecuador, so she's fluent Spanish,
fluent in English. They're housing these children, and then they
(05:40):
were taking them to places that were supposed to be
safe houses, and it would be a warehouse or a
strip joint. And so they were asking the question, like,
what the hell's going on? Why are we sing?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
We had we had DHS agents that spent their entire
career just working on the issue of the sex trafficking
of children. And you know how shocking it was this
sheer number of people. I mean, there are a lot
of really disgusting people in the world, all right. So
putting aside your personal feelings about Ebstein and putting aside
the sweetheart plea deal that he got in Florida back
(06:12):
in the day, just for a minute, here you were
advising him for almost the year, correct, He was in
contact with you for that period of time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Probably more than a year. He was having me review
his lawyer's work in the case in Florida in which
it had been reopened or potentially reopened because the victims
hadn't gotten proper notice from the government in the case.
He had a whole battery of top notch lawyers in
the country and so on. But at some point, you know,
he asked me to review their work before he was
filing it, and so that's how we sort of reinitiated
(06:43):
that relationship. And then at some point a few months
before he died, he asked me to come to his
home in New York to take over all of his litigation.
I didn't feel I was in a position to do that,
but then we kept in regular sort of daily touch,
asking me for advice on different things.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, now you talked about and Alan Dershwitz has said,
and Dershwitz was very familiar with this, that there was
never any list, and you said that he had no
incriminating evidence about President Trump and that you specifically asked
about that. And by the way, if there was incriminating
evidence on Trump, don't you think that the Biden DOJ
(07:18):
would have released it?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Remember in the Maxwell case, you had Comy's daughter as
the prosecutor in the case. If anyone expects me to
believe that if they were incriminating evidence about President Trump,
and it would it wouldn't have been leaked by that
office you know for years already. Then you know again,
sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. I don't buy it at all.
Too many people have touched all of the related documents
(07:42):
in this case for there have been anything about it.
But in any way they say it would have at
the time I asked him, it would have been in
his interest to tell all of the information that he
had anything bad that President Trump. Remember I didn't even
know President Trump at that time you're talking about twenty nineteen.
I didn't meet President Trump until a couple of weeks
before the impeachment trial. So he had no interest in
(08:03):
telling me to try to, you know, satisfy me about anything.
This is at the time in his life when it
would have served him to have served up to the
government all in any and all information he had about
prominent people who the government might have wanted to go after,
and President Trump wouldn't have been the only one. So
I don't find it at all surprising that there's no
client list. I wouldn't have thought there would be. He
(08:24):
never ever spoke to me about blackmailing anybody or anything
like that. And I think, now you see this hypocrisy
that we've identified so many times over and over and
over again. To have Jamie Raskin demanding the list and
all of these things. Where was he the last you know, five, six,
seven years. Where was he during the Biden administration about
the records and the documents after Steen passed away. It's hypocrisy.
(08:47):
And what they're doing now by raising this is such
an issue, they're empowering groups like The New York Times
to focus on the chaos and to play into play
of this all up when you've got so many fabulous
things going on in the world with this is right now,
between the economy, Middle East you're gonna expand the Abraham
Accords and all that, there is nothing about this Jeffrey
Epstein story that's gonna make America great that I can
(09:09):
promise you well.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But you know what I hear And may maybe Miranda
used the right term in saying that, you know it
was it was handled in a clumsy way. Yes, And
my understanding is that the tapes were not tapes of
Epstein and victims, but the tapes were kitty porn that
(09:32):
he had downloaded. Were you aware that you know he
was that creepy?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I never spoke whatsoever about anything like that with him,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I I if there's you know, maybe one thing that
I hope comes out of this more than anything else
is the level of child sex trafficking in this country.
It is shocking.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We pointed out there are three hundred and fifty plus
thousand children that entered our country illegally under Biden and Harris.
We don't know where these children are. We don't know,
and kids are being sold into sex slavery daily, and
that these perverts a I mean, this is a problem
(10:16):
of a much larger magnitude based on past interviews we've
done on this show, then most people know, and that
here here's a living hell out of me as a parent.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Myself absolutely deserve great credit for it. And President Trump
as this is a priority also, this is part of
his immigration program. But again we lose it, you know,
as far as through the trees. These folks, you know,
they pick out an issue and they attack him or
administration on this one issue here, and I think they've
really lost sight of what's going on. They think, for
(10:46):
a second, the President Trump is trying to cover up
for Bill Clinton or somebody else who would be in
those files, you know, arguably Prince Andrew and so on.
It's just not true.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
There's got to be something with Prince Andrew. I mean, obviously,
you know the way the royal family reacted was and
in my view, very appropriate, if not in the disastrous
interview he gave was awful. But anyway, we appreciate your time, David.
Thank you. David. Showan eight hundred and nine four one,
Shawn our number if you want to be a part
(11:18):
of the program. All right, we continue with Jeffrey Epstein's
former attorney, David Shon is with us. David, I want
to be really really clear here between the Palm Beach case,
which I thought was a sweetheart deal that never should
have been given, and all the allegations that have been
made by women to me that are very, very credible.
(11:38):
And I agree everybody that's accused has the right to
an attorney, and you've taken on controversial cases your entire career.
But when I look at and I hear these things,
it makes my blood boil even thinking about it. And
I know who you are as a person, and I
(11:59):
know you believe everybody but he should have the right
to a defense. But you kind of also have your
hands tied here in terms of what you can say
and can't say because attorney client privilege. It continues into
the grave, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
You're absolutely right, John Iman, Yes, it continues after a
person's death, and you're right, it's a difficult situation. But
you know, this is a profession that I chose. I've
represented a lot of people who you know, you wouldn't
want to spend nobody would want to spend any time with.
But that's part of the challenge of this profession. But
you're right, there are many things that I cannot talk
about and would not talk about because the privileged. Just
(12:33):
last week, after I came out with this truth about
President Trump not being inculpated and culpiated in any way,
somebody actually took action against me. But I'm not ashamed
to do that either. That was something that he wanted
Epstein want to put out there because he did want
you know, President Trump's name cleared nobody to cast in
the as persions against him. But you're right, in this situation,
(12:55):
I'm not really free to discuss my personal feelings or
anything like that. This is a defense that I took
on and there is an attorney client privilege that goes
beyond his death. And uh, you know, I don't speak
about any of the other things that we discussed if
they were at all privileged.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But you certainly understand, you know, the general public reading
this and hearing about the magnitude of it, the the
natural outrage people have. And I think that the outrage
is justified, especially when you're talking about young people as
as victims or potential victims.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
In this case, I understand it on only the only
issue reason now that I'm speaking out as it was
initiated because mister Musk made some suggestions about President Trump
that the reason these files weren't disclosed because he was
hiding something about himself and so on that simply wasn't true.
And I could not permit that to be part of
the public dialogue because I am in a position to
(13:54):
know that, and I wanted to authoritatively disabuse anyone of
that notion. Beyond that, you know, I don't comment on
Strepstein's conduct and so on. I perfectly well understand the
public perception and the public animus toward him and this situation. Well,
I don't believe it was suicide, and I say that
for two reasons. I met with him nine days before
he died. He hired me to take over his case,
(14:15):
subject to either my bringing my own team in or
seeing if his folks wanted to, you know, would accept that,
and I didn't think that they would. He gave me
another task that he asked me to do that was
only forward looking, and I know that during that week
he was giving out orders consistent with the defense that
we were planning in his case. But more importantly, perhaps
is that doctor Michael Biden participated in the as an
(14:36):
outside independent examiner in the forensic examination of his body.
And he has said many times, first of all that
the medical examiner on site was the assistant, said she
could not come to any conclusion. But secondly that he
has done tens of thousands of autopsies and he's never
seen injuries like this consistent with a suicide. So the
idea that anyone now can say definitively, oh, this was
(14:58):
a suicide, I just don't buy that. But I don't
have any conspiracy theory that anyone who killed them or otherwise.
I just don't think it's fair to anyone conclusively say
it was a suicide. For those reasons.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
David Schollan appreciate your time, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
More Hannity Less Big Government.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
This is the Sean Hannity Show. Hi twenty five now
till the top of the hour, eight hundred and ninety
four one. Sean, if you want to be a part
of the program. I mentioned this earlier. I am beyond disgusted.
I do cast blame an aspersion on people and the
rhetoric and the groups that are out there putting ICE
(15:37):
agents lives in jeopardy. But Yo, let's give out the
location of a potential attack on ICE agents. Well, it's happening.
It's happening left and right. You know, you got a
guy ramming an ICE vehicle with his car in Linda Vista, California,
before three activists attacking agents. Then you have nearly a
(15:59):
dozen violent assailants equipped with tactical gear and weapons attacking
ICE agents at a detention facility in Texas. The attack
occurred just days before an armed activist shot a US
border official in McCallen, Texas, coordinated, you know, to vandalize
the facility and disrupt operations there. There are eleven suspects
(16:22):
in that attack. The FBI arrested ten of the eleven,
and it's only the tip of the iceberg. He had
a gunman that identified open fire at an entrance of
a US border patrol Sector annex and McCallen that suspect
neutralized by law enforcement who acted heroically to stop the
shooter before there was any loss of life. And another
(16:45):
McCallen police officer shot in the leg and a Border
Patrol officer Border Patrol of employee sustaining injuries. Then you
have outside the San Francisco Immigration Court of videos shared
by ICE capturing a tense altercation between agents and protesters.
Then you got footage posted on x showing mass protesters
(17:06):
scuffling with ICE agents wielding batons. Get back, get back.
Agents are heard trying to protect themselves. Then you had
federal law enforcement officers executing criminal warrant operations at marijuana
grossites and Carpenter Rehea and Camarillo out in California. During
(17:26):
the operation, ten illegal immigrant children were rescued from potential exploitation,
forced labor, human trafficking. You know, a Democratic congressman allegedly
took part in a violent mob attack on ICE agents.
This was in the Washington Times. You know, it's it's
it's pretty unbelievable, what's going on. And then the LA
Mayor Karen Bass announced the new cash giveaway plan for
(17:50):
Biden illegals, and she claims the cash will come from
the city's philanthropic partners, and she says, there is a
need for me to have an executive directive to help
our city understand how to protect itself from our federal government.
That basically means get in the way, even though we
do have a constitution a supremacy clause and jurisdiction lies
(18:15):
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to this immigration issue. Tom Holman was at a turning
point event this weekend. Challenging a heckler to meet him
(20:09):
off stage. Listen to this. That's not what they wanted.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
They're playing the long game.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Let's release them in the community.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Wait three or five years the bardon me?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Are you an NS thirteen member?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
It says, hey, hey, that's okay, that's okay. I got
a question. No, no, no, I got a question for you.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Why don't you come up here and hand me that picture?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Br bringa brea USA, yousa?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
All right?
Speaker 6 (21:00):
They got MORENS like this are of the country.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
This guy, this guy wouldn't like the surface nation.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
This guy ain't got the balls to be a nice officer.
Do you ever got the balls to be a born chorgan?
This guy lives in his mother's basement. The only thing
that surprises me. You don't have purple hair and a
nose drink. Get out of here, your loser. And and
you're such a badass being me off stage in thirteen
(21:29):
minutes and fifty seconds.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You know, I've tried hard to get Tom Holman to laugh.
Uh uh. All business, all business, And he is passionate
about keeping our cities in town safe from all of
the Biden heresy, illegals and known terrorists. And we learned
today another you know, more Ranian assassination squads, and we
(21:55):
have cartel members and gang members and murderers and rapists
and other violent criminals all on vetted thanks to Joe
Kamala may Orcus. Here's Christy Nome being grilled on NBC
over the treatment of detainees at Alligator Alcatraz. Oh, I
didn't know that all these illegals should have room service. Listen.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Alligator Alcatraz Congressman DeBie Wasserman Schultz said that the conditions
there are in humane. More than thirty people stuffed into
a jail cell. She said, they get their drinking water
and they brush their teeth from the same place where
they go to the bathroom. Madame Secretary, what do you
say to these lawmakers who argue this is not humane
(22:36):
treatment of individuals of humans?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Well, our detention centers at the federal level are held
to a higher standard than most local or state centers,
and even federal prisons. The standards are extremely high. Now,
this is a state run facility at Alligator Day half
stuffed into a jay. Have a contrast. I've been there
and I've seen these rooms that they are in. I
wouldn't call them jail cells, would call them a facility
(23:01):
where they are held and that are secure facilities, but
are held to the highest levels of what the federal
government requires for detention facility.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Democrats have called them pages, though I.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Wish they would have set that ball during the Biden
administration and back when Democrats were in the White House
and they were piling people on top of each other
on cement floors and literally didn't have two feet to move.
They never did that, and that's why this politics has
to end.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And then, you know, in the same interview, Christy Nolam
is confronted, you know, over reports that of thousands of
unanswered calls to FEMA after the Texas flood, which is
not true.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Listen, The New York Times is reporting that thousands of
calls from flood victims to FEMA call centers went unanswered
in the middle of this ongoing disaster because you didn't
renew contracts to keep call center staff in place until
nearly one week after the floods. Why did it take
so long to extend those contracts.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Those contracts were in place, Nobody, no employees were off
of work. Every one of them was answering calls so false,
reporting fake news, and it's discouraging. It's discouraging that during
this time, when we have such a loss of life
and so many people's lives have turned upside down, that
people are playing politics with this. Because the response time
(24:17):
was immediate, and if you talk to anyone in Texas
that was there that was a part of this operation,
they would say the federal government and President Trump immediately responded.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Just to be very clear, on July seventh, fifteen point
nine percent of calls were answered. I mean, does that
concern you that only fifteen percent of calls were in
So these were people in a desperate state. FEMA often
the first call that they make. Only fifteen percent were
insted on July seventh, several days after the flood.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
These contracts were in place, and those people were in
those call centers and they were picking up the phone
and answering one.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Other issue before we head to our busy phones. We're
learning more about this Trump assassination attempt. Everything I told
you at the time, this was not a slope roof. Well,
Kimberlee Cheto that then had the Secret Service said was
just false. And I say this as somebody that did
roofing and fell off a roof, a steep slope roof,
(25:08):
not a fake slope, proof that she was claiming this was.
And the worst part of this is they had threats
as many as ten days in advance, and those threats
were never shared with any other law enforcement that was
at the event, and nothing was done to up the
security of then candidate Donald Trump. As we one year
(25:30):
away from it, it seems like a lifetime ago. But anyway,
here's pat fallon on Trump's assassination attempt. Not only did
the Secret Service not share the threat intel with other agencies,
they didn't share it with Trump's detail.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Yesterday was the one year anniversary President Trump's assassination attempt
in Pennsylvania. That report wouldvealed that the Secret Service knew
there was a threat ten days before the rally, they
didn't share any information with local and federal law enforcement. Congressman,
you were a member of the Congressional task force that
investigates in all of this. What are the next steps?
(26:02):
What else needs to happen so that this does not
happen again, especially in the era where and now we
find ourselves when there's more political violence.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Ceril Not only did the Secret Service not share this
with other agencies, they didn't share it with President Trump's
detail that Iran was posed a dire threat to President
Trump's life, he should have been receiving at that time
because it was very unique circumstance. He was the former president,
he was a nation state was trying to assassinate him
for actions he took as president. He was also the
(26:35):
leading candidate to be the next president, which he is now.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
He should have had.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
A security that was commisserate with a sitting US president
because of the unique nature of who who he was,
who he is, and the threat at that time.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I mean, how can they be that incompetent? Pretty unbelievable.
All Right, to our busy phones we go as we
say hi to Don in Iowa. Hey, Don, how are
you glad you called?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Sir hi show. Thank you very much for taking my call.
I appreciate you, and naturally your whole crew because they're
all great, Linda and Katie and.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Uh, they're great a lot of the time.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Oh yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Linda's going to be quiet on that one.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Listen, it's your first day back. I'm giving you a
pass tomorrow, and I'm all in so enjoy it while
you can.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
My friend giving me a pass today, I get a
passed out. Yes today, I'm getting a pass today. I'm
not going to be in trouble. No New York on
me today as right tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
It's one like Donkey Kongs.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I enjoy it well last Well, now that you live
in Pennsylvania, why do you still keep the New York action?
Why don't you get rid of it?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Why not? Why can't I be me?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Why you gotta hate not hating? You know, you're just
jealous because you lost yours.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
That's okay. When you get tired, it still comes out.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Don what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Still love the steak and cheese up, so it's okay
to keep the accent. No thank you. Seriously, what everybody's
been talking about a lot is the use of the
auto pen. And what's got me wondering is if they're
looking into the investigation of the autopen being used to
(28:10):
cancel the oil the natural guest shipments to Europe, which
gave Russia the power over Europe to start the war
that they started. I mean, Joe Biden gave an interview
said he didn't even know they canceled the natural gaest
shipments and you know, him not knowing again, gave Russia
(28:31):
all the power in the world to supply the natural
gas to Europe. And when Germany protested against their build
up or against Ukraine, Putin just told them you either
mind your own business or was shut off the gas
and freezier people. And that was all all what I've read,
you know, as true facts.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
There's a lot happening this week as it relates to
you know, the President has done everything humanly possible to
make a deal with Vladimir Putin. Now there are you know,
we're expecting the cease fire where we now know the
President has authorized monies to go to NATO for Ukrainian
defense if they if they choose to so use it
(29:12):
that way. And this is not these are not freebies.
They're going to pay for the They're going to pay
for all of it, the munitions that they're going to buy.
I think that's very, very smart, and you know, I
think we've got to get to the bottom of all
of this, to.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Be honest, absolutely, And like I said, I think that
in itself is huge just to find out, you know,
was the auto pen used for that purpose?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Because I'd like to know. I mean, look, this became
a proxy war under Biden and Harris of the US
versus Putin. It never should have evolved into that. And
and Joe Biden said idly by did nothing as Putin
was amassing troops and his military might on the border
with Ukraine, and was asked, well, what happens if they invaded? Well,
(29:58):
it depends if it's a minor incursion. And look at
the result. It's been a disaster anyway, Don and I
we appreciate you call, buddy, Thank you, God bless you are.
The inter reupt things up for today. Hannity Tonight nine
Eastern Fox News, We are back. We have the Hannity
White House Briefing with Caroline Levett Lindsey Graham. The battle
(30:18):
against Russia continues as the President threatens to cut off
Russia from the world from world trade by imposing one
hundred percent tariffs and giving and selling weaponry to NATO. Also,
is it true? Is it possible? Well ask John Solomon
and James Comer. The FBI opens a grand conspiracy probe
(30:39):
on the weaponization the last ten years of the Deep
States treatment of Donald Trump. How important is this? I
think very John Solomon, James Comer, Ted Cruz, Jimmy Fayla
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