May 18, 2023 • 30 mins
Steven Friend, Senior fellow for the Center for Renewing America, joined Jim Jordan and House Republicans today as a whistleblower testifying on the retaliation from the FBI and others for telling the truth about what is happening in the agency. GOP members of the Weaponization and Judiciary House select subcommittee heard the testimony from Steven and three other whistleblowers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.
All Right, News Roundup, Information Overload Hour, Toll free. Our
number is eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn if
you want to be a part of the program. So,
Jim Jordan House Judiciary Committee had their hearings today with whistleblowers.
We're going to introduce you to one of them in
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a minute. Stephen prend is his name. He's also a
Senior Fellow for the Center for Renewing America and he
joined Jim Jordan and House Republicans as a whistleblower testifying
on the issue of retaliation from the FBI and others
for simply telling the truth about what is happening in
the agency and GOP. Members of the Weaponization Committee of
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the Judiciary Select Committee heard the testimony from Steven and
three other whistleblowers. It was eye opening, it was shocking.
It should shock the conscience. This should not happen in
this country. But it did play some of the testimony
as Steve Friend as he talks about the FBI's campaign
of intimidation after he became a whistleblower and how the
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FBI is working against the American people and how it
is in need of drastic reform. All we've been telling
you listen.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
At each level of my chain of command leadership caution
that despite my exemplary work performance, whistleblowing placed my otherwise
bright future with the FBI at risk. Special agents take
an oath to protect the US Constitution. The dangers of
federal law enforcement overreach were hammered home to me when
I was required to attend trainings at the Holocaust Memorial
Museum and MLK Memorial. I cited my oath and training
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in my conversations with my FBI supervisors. Nevertheless, the FBI
weaponized the security clearance processes to facilitate my removal from
active duty within one month of my disclosures. In addition
to an indefinite unpaid suspension, the FBI initiated a campaign
of humiliation and intimidation to punish and pressure me to resign.
In violation of hip hop indivisions that the FBI leaked
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my private medical information to a reporter at The New
York Times. The FBI denied my request to seek outside
employment in an obvious attempt to deprive me of the
ability to support my family. Finally, the FBI inspection division
imposed in a legal gag order in an attempt to
prevent me from communicating with my family and attorneys. The
FBI is incentivized to work against the American people and
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in dire need of drastic reform.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Particularly in these areas. The integrated program.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Management system incentivizes the use of inappropriate investigatory processes and
tools to achieve arbitrary statistical accomplishments. Mission creep within the
National Security Branch has refocused counter terrorism from legitimate foreign
actors to political opponents within our borders. The FBI weaponizes
process crimes and reinterprets laws to initiate pretectual prosecutions and
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persecute its political enemies. Euerintelligence analysis capability increasingly dictates operations,
turning the FBI into an intelligence agency with a law
enforcement capability. FBI collusion with big tech to gather intelligence
on Americans, censor political speech, and target citizens for malicious prosecution.
A dysfunctional promotion process fosters a revolving door of inexperienced,
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ambitious FBI supervisors ascending the management ladder within the agency.
FBI informant protocols that are broken and abusive. The FBI
skirts the Whistleblower Protection Act and exploits the security clearance
revocation process to expel employees who make legally protected disclosures.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now after that, Linda Sanchez, a Democrat, then tries to
smear one of the other whistleblowers, in this case, Marcus Allen,
for using tweets from a quote bot account.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Thank you, mister Allen.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Have you ever used Twitter?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I have utilized Twitter?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Day?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And is your account at Marcus A ninety seven zero
five zero six four five.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
That is absolutely not my account.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Okay, that's not your account.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Well.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
On December fifth, twenty twenty two, an account under the
Marcus Allen retweeted a.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Tweet that said, it is not my account, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You haven't let me finished the question, Sir football player,
you haven't let me finished the question. On justnd the
time is mine. On December fifth, twenty two, an account
under the name of Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that said,
quote Nancy Pelosi Stage January sixth, retweet if you agree
end quote? Do you agree with that statement?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
That that is I don't know, ma'am. That's not my
account at all all.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Right, joining us now, Stephen Friend, he testified earlier today,
a whistleblower in his own right, and he joined Jim Jordan,
he was before the Judiciary Committee. He's blockbuster hearings from
earlier today. And anyway, we appreciate you being with us,
Steven Friend.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Thank you, oh, thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Let's talk a little bit about your background. Tell me
about your law enforcement background.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah, I was a police officer in Georgia for of
years and joined the FBI in twenty fourteen. And one
of the things about being a cop and joining the
bureau is they are more inclined to send you to
more remote locations and deal with some more obscure crimes.
So I spent my first seven years in the FBI
working in northeastern Nebraska on Indian reservations there and dealing
with violent crimes. And that was really impactful to me
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because I had the opportunity to arrest abut one hundred
and fifty violent criminals and over about two hundred cases
in my time there. And then in twenty twenty one,
elected to relocate my family to Daytona, Bechlorida, with the
understanding I was going to be working child pornography investigations.
But after a few months there the new fiscal year
old around, I was told that those were now going
to be deemed a local matter and I was going
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to be focusing on domestic terrorism here on out. And
at that point was when I got my first access
to the January sixth cases, which I eventually became a
whistleblower about.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You know, it's amazing and I understand that people thought
that Donald Trump did something wrong on January sixth, that
that should be investigated. But what the SA part is
what they did not investigate. At the top of the
last hour, we had the former Capitol Police chief sunned
on this. He's one of only ten Capitol police chiefs
in the history of the country, and he was devastated.
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In the days leading up to January sixth, they had
actionable intelligence and they ignored that intelligence. He saw what
was coming and he begged for National Guard troops. Then also,
the media would have you think that Donald Trump didn't
think this could be problematic. But we have four people
on January third, in a meeting in the Oval Office,
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actually there were five people in the meeting President Trump,
Mark Meadows as Chief of Staff Chris Miller, the Defense Secretary,
his Chief of Staff, Cash Betel, and the Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs, General Milly, I have on tape and
I played it earlier in the show for the five
of them, saying that Donald Trump asked if they needed
troops on January sixth, then would they be available? And
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General Milly, according to who the Inspector General report, said
something similar that it was definitely discussed. So that's five
out of five people in the days leading up to now.
If somebody wanted an insurrection, I'm not sure they would
be looking for guard troops.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Then.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Of course, we learned from Lester Holt in January of
this year they finally caught up to us that federal
law enforcement had in their possession actionable intelligence that they
could have shared with law enforcement, and in fact they
did not, and otherwise all of this would have been prevented.
And that's sad too. I mean, what is your reaction
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when you hear that, and what were you hearing inside
the Bureau at the time when you tried to point
things out.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Well, I think the unfortunate part of what January sixth
has become such a political football that those issues are
being disputed in the veracity of everything is up in
question on the matter who you talk to. But from
my perspective, my concern was not even about the fact
that day. It was how the Bureau is now after
the fact, manipulating statistics concerning January six in order to
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boost its domestic terrorism members and further a narrative that
domestic terrorism was going on the rise around the country.
And I was also very concerned about our use of
SWAT teams and large scale arrest operations to arrest January
six subjects. Regardless of whether or not those charges were
righteous or completely artical, it didn't matter to me. I
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thought that those decisions were putting the public safety at risk.
And I said that as somebody who was almost watching
for five years. But these were people who are charged
with misdemeanor crimes in many situations, and even for those
who were charged with felonies, they had agreed to cooperate
with law enforcement. And that's just not in keeping with
the use of the lowest possible force mountain and needed
to put somebody in the custody if there are law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So you were a whistleblower, you were you were trying to.
The FBI retaliated against you. They suspended you, and all
you were doing was pointing out that the bureau was
working the numbers on the demandstic violent extremism cases. What
exactly did you see and do you maybe have evidence
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to back up everything you saw?
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Well, I can tell you from my experience of having
opened up a couple of hundred cases, that the FBI
is not following the rules that are spelled out for
it in order to manage its cases. So January sixth
righteously should be one case that's run from Washington, DC.
But instead the decision was made to open up a
separate case for every single person, and instead of on
paper running those from Washington, d C. Wherever the person lives,
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that office around the country was the on paper office
of origin. Meanwhile, a task force was stood up in Washington,
d C. That was actually calling the shots and giving directives,
and that was giving the impression to the nation that
genestic herorism is on the rise. In Daytona Beach, Florida,
where I was, or that Sacramento, California, or Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
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wherever the case was opened, and the President and the
Attorney General and the FBI director were able to go
up and say the the stats back us up on
domestic terrorism being on the rise and secure funding. We've
seen the FBI get a huge surge. And I think
the most disgusting part that I was I related to
the committee and we got into a little today, is
senior executives at the FBI get compensation. They get bonuses
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because they've been able to hit the metrics that they
predetermined for themselves to hit these domestic terrorism numbers.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh so if the numbers are right, they get to
they get a nice bonus for themselves. So there's a
financial incentive maybe to fix the books. That's that's not
the system you need. A law enforcement in my view,
let me ask you. Tell me about the day that
you were suspended. Tell me about what was said to
you and how this all came into being.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Well, the day that I was actually suspended in September
was pretty uneventful other than just arriving and then being
squared out. It was the actual lead up to that
where I made my protected disclosures, where at three separate
occasions I was cautioned against becoming a whistleblower. I was
told that this was going to jeopardize my career. And
in my meeting with two of my assistant Special Agents
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in charge, I was told that my duty was to
the FBI, not to the Constitution, and they alleged that
I was insubordinate and refusing me to my job. My
contention to them was, look, I pronotes to the Constitution,
and I believe that what we're doing could be risk
to the public safety, it could be illegal. And I
received training when I was in the FBI academy about
abuse of power. We went to the Holocaust Memorial Museum,
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we went to the MLPA Memorial, and we were taught
that only these civil rights atrocities can occur and GENSI
can occur when people with members of law enforcement don't
step up and ring the alarm bell, so when they
could be the bad guys in fact. And the other
response to that was that I really needed to do
some soul searching and decide if I wanted to be
a member of the FBI going forward.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And then they just took their own liberties to suspend you.
I thought we had whistleblower protection laws in this country.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Did not.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Did I misread that we do have them?
Speaker 6 (11:59):
But the FBI has found the hack, and that is
a security clearance. So you can't work as an FBI
agent without a security clearance. So the FBI contrives ways
to suspend security clearances because that is the years and
years long process in order to investigate, and it has
to be just based on an allegation of wrongdoing. In
my situation, the FBI said that I improperly access the
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employee handbook and that was grounds to suspend my security
clearance and keep me in an unpaid status. Meanwhile, I'm
still an employee and I need the FBI's permission to
work outside and provide for my family, and I'm limited
with outside employment earning seventy five hundred dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Quick break more with Stephen Friend, a now suspended FBI
whistleblower testifying earlier today before the House Judiciary Committee. Hi,
we'll continue with Steven Friend. He has been suspended FBI
agent whistle blower testifying before the House Judiciary Committee today.
Let me ask you this. So I have a friend
of mine recently retired FBI, and I know FBI agents
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that are working today and they these are their words,
and they say universally it is not the same organization
as the one they believed that they were joining. However,
many years ago that it has been politicized, how high
up did your case go within the FBI to get
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you suspended?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I agree to the executive Assistant director level EAD. Jennifer Moore,
heads up the Security Division, who's ultimately her decision to suspend,
and she tied the letter. Interestingly enough, she is retiring
in the next few weeks, and she did that after
being subpoena to appear before Jim Jordan's Committee on the
Weaponisation of the Federal Government. I think she's doing that
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to avoid any sort of responsibility and culpability. But unfortunately
for her, she's not going to have the ability to
retain a or utilize an FBI attorney to defend her
in that. And after talking privately with the Chairman Jordan today,
she still intends to bring her before the committee.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, I really appreciate your courage and your heroism, and
you know, the sad part is is not only were
you not rewarded for trying to clean up what should
be the world's premiere law enforcement agency, which once was,
but you know what, now it's just further evidence of
how it's been weaponized and politicized. I'm very sorry you've
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had to go through this, and I mean that with
all my heart. I have nothing but the deepest respect
for all the good agents like yourself that voluntarily put
their lives on the line to protect our country. And
the fact that this has happened to our FBI and
our CIA should be very chilling to the American people.
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And it looks like we're going to need very deep reforms.
We may need a full cleaning house here to start
over and make sure that the mission is right and
the people that are hired are people that are willing
to fulfill that mission courageously to protect this country and
protective of the people of this country. But we really
appreciate Stephen Friend. Thank you for being with us today.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Sean God bless you. Eight hundred and nine point one,
Seawan or number if you want to be a part
of the program. Now, my cousin I see is calling
into the show today and I'm glad he's calling in.
I'll explain the whole story when we get back. He
was in the FBI, so let me tell you what
life was like, you know, my background, my family. And
you've heard me say this before. I know in my
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life that I stand on the shoulders of my parents.
Both of them grew up very poor. My dad grew
up in bedste In, Brooklyn. My mom grew up in
the South Bronx. They were the children of immigrants from Ireland.
All four of my grandparents, all four of them came
from Ireland, and they had no money in their pocket
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when they got here, and they had hard lives. Anytime
I like to complain and whine and bitch and moan
and grown, you know, I think about their lives and
I'm like, I have nothing to complain about here. It's
simply just wrong. But they worked hard in the hopes
that future generations would be able to do have better
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lives than they had, and they sacrificed their lives for
that way. And by the way, so many of you
have similar stories to tell. Mine is not that unique anyway.
So my grandfather on my mother's side came from Ireland
and his brother also came and I will tell you
that so as I was growing up, I mean when
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my mom became a prison guard. You know, law enforcement
was huge in my family. So many cousins, relatives, you
know outside my immediate family, you know, we're on the NYPD.
My mom was a prison guard. She worked double shifts
pretty much all a life till she died young. I
think from overwork in my opinion, and spent you know,
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twenty five years of her life in a jail. I
think that would kind of suck. Sixteen hours a day.
And my dad was a family corprobation guy, waited tables
on the weekend, and they didn't vacations. They didn't buy
new cars till much later in life because they couldn't
afford them, and they spent all their money on a
Catholic education because they believed that that was the latter
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to success. Now, growing up in my family, if you
were in law enforcement, you know what, you were looked
at it as Wow, you're the American dream. You made it.
You're on the NYPD. This is awesome. Now. My grandfather
on my mother's side had a brother who had two
sons that made it to the FBI, and in my
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family growing up, they were deity. They were it. They
were a pinnacle of success that they made it to
the premier law enforcement agency in the entire world. One
of my cousins has since passed away, but another is
alive and he's actually on our Newsmaker line right now.
My mother's maiden name was Flynn, and Billy Flynn is
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on the line.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Great to have you, my friend, God bless you. I'm
sorry we missed your brother. And by the way, your
other brother became Jack became what a Christian brother? If
I'm not mistaken and used. How many years did you
serve in the FBI?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Twenty eight years, Sean? You know it's funny you say that.
Well I didn't call in with this in mind, but
what you just described I call the Irish American privilege.
You know, we had the loving parents, work ethic, gave
us a Marral code and turned us loose. No checks,
no nothing, that's true.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I was on my own, you know, since I had
my first paper out, I paid for every meal I
ever had. I just you know, we didn't have meals
at six o'clock like a regular family.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
You know what you know, Short, I'm in a sweet spun.
I'm two years older than Trump and two years younger
than Biden. Let me tell you something. Trump is a
freaking wonder kid. He's unbelievable. I couldn't begin to compete
with his stamina and the other guy he is on
his way to dementia city. This is from my observations
from this age I am. I'm from what we call
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my friend's call. We call ourselves twentieth century feds. Our
careers were in the last quarter of the twentieth century.
But the thing I'm describing there, that silver spooner thing.
I didn't call him with this in mind. But you
know what, maybe that's the problem with this Ray guy,
because that's what he is, a silver spooner. As I
recall his background, I think he was born in Manhattan
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to a well to do lawyer father. He went to
prep school in Manhattan and then Yale Law. He gets out,
he gets himself a job in a preferred law firm,
no problem there. He gets out of that, he does
a couple of years in justice, has no FBI experience,
and the next thing you know, he's the director of
the FBI. I mean to me, I just think this
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guy was hopefully inadequate for the position he was put in.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
He had an opportunity to clean house. After all. The
Shenanigans of James call me you know, we know James
Comey went three separate times with PISA applications, and Andrew
McCabe said, without Hillary's dirty dossier, those applications never would
have been improved. And he lied to a court and
said that it was verified. It says at the top
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of a visa court application verified. And he submitted to
them every time. And then we learned this week from
the Durham report that they had no predicate at all
to even open this investigation and that they will warned repeatedly.
Early October, before he signed that first application, we know
that the FBI had agents fly over the Pond to
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London and meet with Christopher Steele. They offered him a
million dollars if he could corroborate his dossier. He could not,
But yet they included it as the bulk of information
to get that visa application, to destroy Carter Page's life
and backdoor into all things Trump world. How did he
never get held accountable for that?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I don't know. Straordinary, isn't it. This guy put his thumb,
put his put his cinder block on the scale of
the last election. If anything, hopefully the Republicans will have
somebody in there at twenty four to turn it over.
You will never get them to go back after call
me and the rest of those dirt bags. But this
guy should be made an example of. He absolutely affected
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the election in twenty twenty by putting by, you know,
hooking up with the social networks, telling him his Russian
pranks coming, and then he then, of course the laptop
shows up and then they sit on it. Two weeks
before the election. Some independent survey said that could have
affected the outcome of the election had they known that,
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had the post not been squashed. You know. So I
would like to see him prosecuted. That's my goal. Sorry,
this is what I really called in for. So I'm
just off the top of my head here. But the
idea I called in for was to do with the
border shore. I know that the governors of Texas and
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Florida have been shipping the buses up. It's well known
what happened in New York. We got Mayor Adams in
their spring University. We're not a sanctuary city anymore, etc. Well,
you know, there's a lot of universities in this country,
a lot of wop politically correct universities that have empty
dorms during the summer, you know, and a lot of
them rent them out. I would love to see, maybe,
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in particular, let's go after these Catholic and name only universities.
Let's drop off a couple of loads of these illegal
immigrants in their dorms for the summer. Maybe they could
take some of that they're well endowed monies that they have.
They must be hugely profitable with their exorbitant tuitions, and
let them take care of these people for a summer,
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and maybe during that summer they can figure out a
more permanent lodging for them in the communities in which
they live.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I mean, why don't we enforce the law if
you enter those countries illegally, you don't respect our laws
borders of sovereignty. You should be sent home. By the way,
you know, it's funny. I want to go back to
our own family, if you don't mind. I bet you
and your brothers had no idea that everybody else in
the family looked up to you the way we did.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Did you no idea at all? Seuck, I got it,
you know. I was in college. I was in Manhattan College.
It was in night school, paying my own way, I
would say, at the same time as Rudy Giuliani and
Jane Spatterson.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Wow, you know, it's it's pretty amazing, you know. The
sad part is, and you and I had private conversations
when we were dealing with this whole you know, Mueller
witch hunt and everything else that went on for three
long years, Russia hoax, and I remember telling you it
was painful for me. It kind of it went against
my own ingrained DNA because I was brought up to
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revere people like yourself and people in law enforcement and
look up to them and believe in them and trust them,
and the idea that they were abusing power to this level.
Now again, I make an exception for the good, the
good people in the FBI that risk their lives, the
good people in law enforcement. And I always make that
caveat because it's not fair to sweep a broad general
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brush and people like yourself and people like your brother,
and yet look what has happened here. I mean, I
don't know if you had a chance to look at
this Durham report, but it is devastating. If anyone has
eyes to read and ears to hear and a heart
that's open, you see that this was all a hoax
from the beginning, with no evidence to even begin an investigation.
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And I'm like, how is this happening in this country?
That to me is abuse of power, That is corruption.
But if our institutions are corrupt, I'll give you another example.
Twenty twenty, here's the FBI again. They had Hunter Biden's
laptop in December and twenty nineteen. They verified that, John
Solomon says in spring of twenty twenty, and yet they
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had FBI agents meet up with big tech companies on
a weekly basis, even given three and a half million
dollars to Twitter and pre bunking, Well, you might be
a victim of disinformation from a foreign entity, and maybe
about Joe or Hunter Biden. So that story that they
knew was coming out because Rudy Giuliani had a copy
of that laptop, they debunk it, and then it gets
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censored and the American people are denied a very important
truth about a candidate and his family prior to an election. Now,
that to me is wow. I can't imagine what would
happen to me if I ever tried to, you know,
medal in an election like that.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
You know, I was told by someone who was in
a position to know the sad laptop sat that whole
time in a unit down at Quantico, you know, and
I call it Dorg and pony show Land. They're really
good at putting on lots of shows down there. The
congressman that was on ahead of me, I agree with
them one hundred percent. Do not fund any new facility
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for the FBI, because that'll be the next little bubble
that they dangle out in front of you. They should
be confirmed to that concrete tomb that they are in
right now because they hate being there, and I really
feel they shouldn't be rewarded for the way that they've
conducted themselves throughout this whole thing. Well, I'm disgusted, and
I don't know anybody for the most part, the retirees
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that I know that have anything but lack of respect
for these people.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Every single person that I know, either currently serving or
recently retired, tells me the same thing. It is not
the agency they signed up for. Everything that they're looking
into now in the Judiciary Committee about weaponization in how
it's been politicized the FBI, it is all true. And
that to me tells us that we don't have equal
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justice or application of our laws. They're not following standard
procedures or following through on constitutional rights. Pretty scary times,
by the way. And here it is you guys had
had created this great reputation for our family and were
you know, looked up to his deity and then it
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along comes me and I ruined the whole family reputation.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Are you kidding me? What patters can be? I bragged
anybody who listened to me that you're my cousin, and
I said, don't hold it against him.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And by the way, and by the way, the funny
thing is probably half of them want to kill you
after that. You know, well, listen, it's great to hear
from you. And then you know, twenty eight years you
served our great country. Your brother was a hero as well, well,
both your brothers were here have your whole family's heroes.
I'll never forget your dad. I remember your your dad.
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I think I called him Uncle Dave at the time,
I'm not sure, but he would smoke a cigarette and
he'd pop with every drag. He used to do that pop,
remember that. And I remember your your mom Bridy loving
a Gin and tonic, And I remember I was a
bartender at the time i'd make him for yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Real quick, my father would. He'd be sitting there with
a pipe, doing that popp thing with the pipe, and
he said, sure, Billy, I'm so happy to tell you
I gave up smoking.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
As he popped away on a pipe instead of a cigarette.
I remember him smoking cigarettes. I don't remember the pipe
well anyway, Bill, Thank you, my friend. God bless you
and our entire family, and and I know you agree
with me that they had much tougher lives than we did,
and they sacrificed a lot for us, and I never
forget that we stand on their shoulders.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Thanks, Shean, you're the workhorse and the conservative body.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well but trying, my friend, I'm just trying to follow
in your footsteps. Yep, all right, eight nine one seawn
our number if you want to be part of the program.
I used to call him and say, it's killing me,
it's killing me. I don't want to cover this story.
I don't want to be point on on exposing you
know what I had come grown up to Revere, you know,
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law enforcement, the FBI, and I was brought up to
you know, I looked at him and his brother and
we were like, you know, we didn't see them often,
and then sometimes you'd see them and they like had
long hippie hair. You know, they were dressed. You know,
they were obviously clearly infiltrating something. I obviously, at my age,
I had no clue what they were doing. And you know,
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it just was you know, we looked at them as
the pinnacle of success as an immigrant family. And they
made it when they made it to the FBI, and
that was that was the dream of their parents risking
everything coming to this country with no money. And that's
all for my grandparents. I only knew one of my grandparents.
I did not know the other three, and I didn't
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know his dad, which was my grandfather's brother. Anyway, great people,
I'll say that. All right, that's going to wrap things
up at today. All right, the hearings of the whistle blowers.
Today we got full and complete coverage, including one of
the whistleblowers. Im pio. Kelly Ann joins us tonight. Lindsey
Graham's of New York tonight. He'll check in with us
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in studio, Tommy Laren in studio, Dagan is in studio.
So we have a lot of fun. Ronnie Jackson and
so much more nine Eastern Hannity, Fox News, see you tonight,
back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this show possible.
Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.
All Right, News Roundup, Information Overload Hour, Toll free. Our
number is eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn if
you want to be a part of the program. So,
Jim Jordan House Judiciary Committee had their hearings today with whistleblowers.
We're going to introduce you to one of them in
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a minute. Stephen prend is his name. He's also a
Senior Fellow for the Center for Renewing America and he
joined Jim Jordan and House Republicans as a whistleblower testifying
on the issue of retaliation from the FBI and others
for simply telling the truth about what is happening in
the agency and GOP. Members of the Weaponization Committee of
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the Judiciary Select Committee heard the testimony from Steven and
three other whistleblowers. It was eye opening, it was shocking.
It should shock the conscience. This should not happen in
this country. But it did play some of the testimony
as Steve Friend as he talks about the FBI's campaign
of intimidation after he became a whistleblower and how the
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FBI is working against the American people and how it
is in need of drastic reform. All we've been telling
you listen.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
At each level of my chain of command leadership caution
that despite my exemplary work performance, whistleblowing placed my otherwise
bright future with the FBI at risk. Special agents take
an oath to protect the US Constitution. The dangers of
federal law enforcement overreach were hammered home to me when
I was required to attend trainings at the Holocaust Memorial
Museum and MLK Memorial. I cited my oath and training
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in my conversations with my FBI supervisors. Nevertheless, the FBI
weaponized the security clearance processes to facilitate my removal from
active duty within one month of my disclosures. In addition
to an indefinite unpaid suspension, the FBI initiated a campaign
of humiliation and intimidation to punish and pressure me to resign.
In violation of hip hop indivisions that the FBI leaked
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my private medical information to a reporter at The New
York Times. The FBI denied my request to seek outside
employment in an obvious attempt to deprive me of the
ability to support my family. Finally, the FBI inspection division
imposed in a legal gag order in an attempt to
prevent me from communicating with my family and attorneys. The
FBI is incentivized to work against the American people and
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in dire need of drastic reform.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Particularly in these areas. The integrated program.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Management system incentivizes the use of inappropriate investigatory processes and
tools to achieve arbitrary statistical accomplishments. Mission creep within the
National Security Branch has refocused counter terrorism from legitimate foreign
actors to political opponents within our borders. The FBI weaponizes
process crimes and reinterprets laws to initiate pretectual prosecutions and
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persecute its political enemies. Euerintelligence analysis capability increasingly dictates operations,
turning the FBI into an intelligence agency with a law
enforcement capability. FBI collusion with big tech to gather intelligence
on Americans, censor political speech, and target citizens for malicious prosecution.
A dysfunctional promotion process fosters a revolving door of inexperienced,
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ambitious FBI supervisors ascending the management ladder within the agency.
FBI informant protocols that are broken and abusive. The FBI
skirts the Whistleblower Protection Act and exploits the security clearance
revocation process to expel employees who make legally protected disclosures.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now after that, Linda Sanchez, a Democrat, then tries to
smear one of the other whistleblowers, in this case, Marcus Allen,
for using tweets from a quote bot account.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Thank you, mister Allen.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Have you ever used Twitter?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I have utilized Twitter?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Day?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And is your account at Marcus A ninety seven zero
five zero six four five.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
That is absolutely not my account.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Okay, that's not your account.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Well.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
On December fifth, twenty twenty two, an account under the
Marcus Allen retweeted a.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Tweet that said, it is not my account, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You haven't let me finished the question, Sir football player,
you haven't let me finished the question. On justnd the
time is mine. On December fifth, twenty two, an account
under the name of Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that said,
quote Nancy Pelosi Stage January sixth, retweet if you agree
end quote? Do you agree with that statement?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
That that is I don't know, ma'am. That's not my
account at all all.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Right, joining us now, Stephen Friend, he testified earlier today,
a whistleblower in his own right, and he joined Jim Jordan,
he was before the Judiciary Committee. He's blockbuster hearings from
earlier today. And anyway, we appreciate you being with us,
Steven Friend.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Thank you, oh, thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Let's talk a little bit about your background. Tell me
about your law enforcement background.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah, I was a police officer in Georgia for of
years and joined the FBI in twenty fourteen. And one
of the things about being a cop and joining the
bureau is they are more inclined to send you to
more remote locations and deal with some more obscure crimes.
So I spent my first seven years in the FBI
working in northeastern Nebraska on Indian reservations there and dealing
with violent crimes. And that was really impactful to me
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because I had the opportunity to arrest abut one hundred
and fifty violent criminals and over about two hundred cases
in my time there. And then in twenty twenty one,
elected to relocate my family to Daytona, Bechlorida, with the
understanding I was going to be working child pornography investigations.
But after a few months there the new fiscal year
old around, I was told that those were now going
to be deemed a local matter and I was going
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to be focusing on domestic terrorism here on out. And
at that point was when I got my first access
to the January sixth cases, which I eventually became a
whistleblower about.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You know, it's amazing and I understand that people thought
that Donald Trump did something wrong on January sixth, that
that should be investigated. But what the SA part is
what they did not investigate. At the top of the
last hour, we had the former Capitol Police chief sunned
on this. He's one of only ten Capitol police chiefs
in the history of the country, and he was devastated.
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In the days leading up to January sixth, they had
actionable intelligence and they ignored that intelligence. He saw what
was coming and he begged for National Guard troops. Then also,
the media would have you think that Donald Trump didn't
think this could be problematic. But we have four people
on January third, in a meeting in the Oval Office,
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actually there were five people in the meeting President Trump,
Mark Meadows as Chief of Staff Chris Miller, the Defense Secretary,
his Chief of Staff, Cash Betel, and the Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs, General Milly, I have on tape and
I played it earlier in the show for the five
of them, saying that Donald Trump asked if they needed
troops on January sixth, then would they be available? And
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General Milly, according to who the Inspector General report, said
something similar that it was definitely discussed. So that's five
out of five people in the days leading up to now.
If somebody wanted an insurrection, I'm not sure they would
be looking for guard troops.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Then.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Of course, we learned from Lester Holt in January of
this year they finally caught up to us that federal
law enforcement had in their possession actionable intelligence that they
could have shared with law enforcement, and in fact they
did not, and otherwise all of this would have been prevented.
And that's sad too. I mean, what is your reaction
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when you hear that, and what were you hearing inside
the Bureau at the time when you tried to point
things out.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Well, I think the unfortunate part of what January sixth
has become such a political football that those issues are
being disputed in the veracity of everything is up in
question on the matter who you talk to. But from
my perspective, my concern was not even about the fact
that day. It was how the Bureau is now after
the fact, manipulating statistics concerning January six in order to
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boost its domestic terrorism members and further a narrative that
domestic terrorism was going on the rise around the country.
And I was also very concerned about our use of
SWAT teams and large scale arrest operations to arrest January
six subjects. Regardless of whether or not those charges were
righteous or completely artical, it didn't matter to me. I
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thought that those decisions were putting the public safety at risk.
And I said that as somebody who was almost watching
for five years. But these were people who are charged
with misdemeanor crimes in many situations, and even for those
who were charged with felonies, they had agreed to cooperate
with law enforcement. And that's just not in keeping with
the use of the lowest possible force mountain and needed
to put somebody in the custody if there are law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So you were a whistleblower, you were you were trying to.
The FBI retaliated against you. They suspended you, and all
you were doing was pointing out that the bureau was
working the numbers on the demandstic violent extremism cases. What
exactly did you see and do you maybe have evidence
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to back up everything you saw?
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Well, I can tell you from my experience of having
opened up a couple of hundred cases, that the FBI
is not following the rules that are spelled out for
it in order to manage its cases. So January sixth
righteously should be one case that's run from Washington, DC.
But instead the decision was made to open up a
separate case for every single person, and instead of on
paper running those from Washington, d C. Wherever the person lives,
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that office around the country was the on paper office
of origin. Meanwhile, a task force was stood up in Washington,
d C. That was actually calling the shots and giving directives,
and that was giving the impression to the nation that
genestic herorism is on the rise. In Daytona Beach, Florida,
where I was, or that Sacramento, California, or Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
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wherever the case was opened, and the President and the
Attorney General and the FBI director were able to go
up and say the the stats back us up on
domestic terrorism being on the rise and secure funding. We've
seen the FBI get a huge surge. And I think
the most disgusting part that I was I related to
the committee and we got into a little today, is
senior executives at the FBI get compensation. They get bonuses
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because they've been able to hit the metrics that they
predetermined for themselves to hit these domestic terrorism numbers.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh so if the numbers are right, they get to
they get a nice bonus for themselves. So there's a
financial incentive maybe to fix the books. That's that's not
the system you need. A law enforcement in my view,
let me ask you. Tell me about the day that
you were suspended. Tell me about what was said to
you and how this all came into being.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Well, the day that I was actually suspended in September
was pretty uneventful other than just arriving and then being
squared out. It was the actual lead up to that
where I made my protected disclosures, where at three separate
occasions I was cautioned against becoming a whistleblower. I was
told that this was going to jeopardize my career. And
in my meeting with two of my assistant Special Agents
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in charge, I was told that my duty was to
the FBI, not to the Constitution, and they alleged that
I was insubordinate and refusing me to my job. My
contention to them was, look, I pronotes to the Constitution,
and I believe that what we're doing could be risk
to the public safety, it could be illegal. And I
received training when I was in the FBI academy about
abuse of power. We went to the Holocaust Memorial Museum,
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we went to the MLPA Memorial, and we were taught
that only these civil rights atrocities can occur and GENSI
can occur when people with members of law enforcement don't
step up and ring the alarm bell, so when they
could be the bad guys in fact. And the other
response to that was that I really needed to do
some soul searching and decide if I wanted to be
a member of the FBI going forward.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And then they just took their own liberties to suspend you.
I thought we had whistleblower protection laws in this country.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Did not.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Did I misread that we do have them?
Speaker 6 (11:59):
But the FBI has found the hack, and that is
a security clearance. So you can't work as an FBI
agent without a security clearance. So the FBI contrives ways
to suspend security clearances because that is the years and
years long process in order to investigate, and it has
to be just based on an allegation of wrongdoing. In
my situation, the FBI said that I improperly access the
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employee handbook and that was grounds to suspend my security
clearance and keep me in an unpaid status. Meanwhile, I'm
still an employee and I need the FBI's permission to
work outside and provide for my family, and I'm limited
with outside employment earning seventy five hundred dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Quick break more with Stephen Friend, a now suspended FBI
whistleblower testifying earlier today before the House Judiciary Committee. Hi,
we'll continue with Steven Friend. He has been suspended FBI
agent whistle blower testifying before the House Judiciary Committee today.
Let me ask you this. So I have a friend
of mine recently retired FBI, and I know FBI agents
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that are working today and they these are their words,
and they say universally it is not the same organization
as the one they believed that they were joining. However,
many years ago that it has been politicized, how high
up did your case go within the FBI to get
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you suspended?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I agree to the executive Assistant director level EAD. Jennifer Moore,
heads up the Security Division, who's ultimately her decision to suspend,
and she tied the letter. Interestingly enough, she is retiring
in the next few weeks, and she did that after
being subpoena to appear before Jim Jordan's Committee on the
Weaponisation of the Federal Government. I think she's doing that
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to avoid any sort of responsibility and culpability. But unfortunately
for her, she's not going to have the ability to
retain a or utilize an FBI attorney to defend her
in that. And after talking privately with the Chairman Jordan today,
she still intends to bring her before the committee.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, I really appreciate your courage and your heroism, and
you know, the sad part is is not only were
you not rewarded for trying to clean up what should
be the world's premiere law enforcement agency, which once was,
but you know what, now it's just further evidence of
how it's been weaponized and politicized. I'm very sorry you've
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had to go through this, and I mean that with
all my heart. I have nothing but the deepest respect
for all the good agents like yourself that voluntarily put
their lives on the line to protect our country. And
the fact that this has happened to our FBI and
our CIA should be very chilling to the American people.
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And it looks like we're going to need very deep reforms.
We may need a full cleaning house here to start
over and make sure that the mission is right and
the people that are hired are people that are willing
to fulfill that mission courageously to protect this country and
protective of the people of this country. But we really
appreciate Stephen Friend. Thank you for being with us today.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Sean God bless you. Eight hundred and nine point one,
Seawan or number if you want to be a part
of the program. Now, my cousin I see is calling
into the show today and I'm glad he's calling in.
I'll explain the whole story when we get back. He
was in the FBI, so let me tell you what
life was like, you know, my background, my family. And
you've heard me say this before. I know in my
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life that I stand on the shoulders of my parents.
Both of them grew up very poor. My dad grew
up in bedste In, Brooklyn. My mom grew up in
the South Bronx. They were the children of immigrants from Ireland.
All four of my grandparents, all four of them came
from Ireland, and they had no money in their pocket
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when they got here, and they had hard lives. Anytime
I like to complain and whine and bitch and moan
and grown, you know, I think about their lives and
I'm like, I have nothing to complain about here. It's
simply just wrong. But they worked hard in the hopes
that future generations would be able to do have better
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lives than they had, and they sacrificed their lives for
that way. And by the way, so many of you
have similar stories to tell. Mine is not that unique anyway.
So my grandfather on my mother's side came from Ireland
and his brother also came and I will tell you
that so as I was growing up, I mean when
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my mom became a prison guard. You know, law enforcement
was huge in my family. So many cousins, relatives, you
know outside my immediate family, you know, we're on the NYPD.
My mom was a prison guard. She worked double shifts
pretty much all a life till she died young. I
think from overwork in my opinion, and spent you know,
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twenty five years of her life in a jail. I
think that would kind of suck. Sixteen hours a day.
And my dad was a family corprobation guy, waited tables
on the weekend, and they didn't vacations. They didn't buy
new cars till much later in life because they couldn't
afford them, and they spent all their money on a
Catholic education because they believed that that was the latter
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to success. Now, growing up in my family, if you
were in law enforcement, you know what, you were looked
at it as Wow, you're the American dream. You made it.
You're on the NYPD. This is awesome. Now. My grandfather
on my mother's side had a brother who had two
sons that made it to the FBI, and in my
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family growing up, they were deity. They were it. They
were a pinnacle of success that they made it to
the premier law enforcement agency in the entire world. One
of my cousins has since passed away, but another is
alive and he's actually on our Newsmaker line right now.
My mother's maiden name was Flynn, and Billy Flynn is
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on the line.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Great to have you, my friend, God bless you. I'm
sorry we missed your brother. And by the way, your
other brother became Jack became what a Christian brother? If
I'm not mistaken and used. How many years did you
serve in the FBI?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Twenty eight years, Sean? You know it's funny you say that.
Well I didn't call in with this in mind, but
what you just described I call the Irish American privilege.
You know, we had the loving parents, work ethic, gave
us a Marral code and turned us loose. No checks,
no nothing, that's true.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I was on my own, you know, since I had
my first paper out, I paid for every meal I
ever had. I just you know, we didn't have meals
at six o'clock like a regular family.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
You know what you know, Short, I'm in a sweet spun.
I'm two years older than Trump and two years younger
than Biden. Let me tell you something. Trump is a
freaking wonder kid. He's unbelievable. I couldn't begin to compete
with his stamina and the other guy he is on
his way to dementia city. This is from my observations
from this age I am. I'm from what we call
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my friend's call. We call ourselves twentieth century feds. Our
careers were in the last quarter of the twentieth century.
But the thing I'm describing there, that silver spooner thing.
I didn't call him with this in mind. But you
know what, maybe that's the problem with this Ray guy,
because that's what he is, a silver spooner. As I
recall his background, I think he was born in Manhattan
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to a well to do lawyer father. He went to
prep school in Manhattan and then Yale Law. He gets out,
he gets himself a job in a preferred law firm,
no problem there. He gets out of that, he does
a couple of years in justice, has no FBI experience,
and the next thing you know, he's the director of
the FBI. I mean to me, I just think this
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guy was hopefully inadequate for the position he was put in.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
He had an opportunity to clean house. After all. The
Shenanigans of James call me you know, we know James
Comey went three separate times with PISA applications, and Andrew
McCabe said, without Hillary's dirty dossier, those applications never would
have been improved. And he lied to a court and
said that it was verified. It says at the top
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of a visa court application verified. And he submitted to
them every time. And then we learned this week from
the Durham report that they had no predicate at all
to even open this investigation and that they will warned repeatedly.
Early October, before he signed that first application, we know
that the FBI had agents fly over the Pond to
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London and meet with Christopher Steele. They offered him a
million dollars if he could corroborate his dossier. He could not,
But yet they included it as the bulk of information
to get that visa application, to destroy Carter Page's life
and backdoor into all things Trump world. How did he
never get held accountable for that?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I don't know. Straordinary, isn't it. This guy put his thumb,
put his put his cinder block on the scale of
the last election. If anything, hopefully the Republicans will have
somebody in there at twenty four to turn it over.
You will never get them to go back after call
me and the rest of those dirt bags. But this
guy should be made an example of. He absolutely affected
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the election in twenty twenty by putting by, you know,
hooking up with the social networks, telling him his Russian
pranks coming, and then he then, of course the laptop
shows up and then they sit on it. Two weeks
before the election. Some independent survey said that could have
affected the outcome of the election had they known that,
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had the post not been squashed. You know. So I
would like to see him prosecuted. That's my goal. Sorry,
this is what I really called in for. So I'm
just off the top of my head here. But the
idea I called in for was to do with the
border shore. I know that the governors of Texas and
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Florida have been shipping the buses up. It's well known
what happened in New York. We got Mayor Adams in
their spring University. We're not a sanctuary city anymore, etc. Well,
you know, there's a lot of universities in this country,
a lot of wop politically correct universities that have empty
dorms during the summer, you know, and a lot of
them rent them out. I would love to see, maybe,
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in particular, let's go after these Catholic and name only universities.
Let's drop off a couple of loads of these illegal
immigrants in their dorms for the summer. Maybe they could
take some of that they're well endowed monies that they have.
They must be hugely profitable with their exorbitant tuitions, and
let them take care of these people for a summer,
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and maybe during that summer they can figure out a
more permanent lodging for them in the communities in which
they live.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I mean, why don't we enforce the law if
you enter those countries illegally, you don't respect our laws
borders of sovereignty. You should be sent home. By the way,
you know, it's funny. I want to go back to
our own family, if you don't mind. I bet you
and your brothers had no idea that everybody else in
the family looked up to you the way we did.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Did you no idea at all? Seuck, I got it,
you know. I was in college. I was in Manhattan College.
It was in night school, paying my own way, I
would say, at the same time as Rudy Giuliani and
Jane Spatterson.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Wow, you know, it's it's pretty amazing, you know. The
sad part is, and you and I had private conversations
when we were dealing with this whole you know, Mueller
witch hunt and everything else that went on for three
long years, Russia hoax, and I remember telling you it
was painful for me. It kind of it went against
my own ingrained DNA because I was brought up to
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revere people like yourself and people in law enforcement and
look up to them and believe in them and trust them,
and the idea that they were abusing power to this level.
Now again, I make an exception for the good, the
good people in the FBI that risk their lives, the
good people in law enforcement. And I always make that
caveat because it's not fair to sweep a broad general
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brush and people like yourself and people like your brother,
and yet look what has happened here. I mean, I
don't know if you had a chance to look at
this Durham report, but it is devastating. If anyone has
eyes to read and ears to hear and a heart
that's open, you see that this was all a hoax
from the beginning, with no evidence to even begin an investigation.
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And I'm like, how is this happening in this country?
That to me is abuse of power, That is corruption.
But if our institutions are corrupt, I'll give you another example.
Twenty twenty, here's the FBI again. They had Hunter Biden's
laptop in December and twenty nineteen. They verified that, John
Solomon says in spring of twenty twenty, and yet they
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had FBI agents meet up with big tech companies on
a weekly basis, even given three and a half million
dollars to Twitter and pre bunking, Well, you might be
a victim of disinformation from a foreign entity, and maybe
about Joe or Hunter Biden. So that story that they
knew was coming out because Rudy Giuliani had a copy
of that laptop, they debunk it, and then it gets
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censored and the American people are denied a very important
truth about a candidate and his family prior to an election. Now,
that to me is wow. I can't imagine what would
happen to me if I ever tried to, you know,
medal in an election like that.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
You know, I was told by someone who was in
a position to know the sad laptop sat that whole
time in a unit down at Quantico, you know, and
I call it Dorg and pony show Land. They're really
good at putting on lots of shows down there. The
congressman that was on ahead of me, I agree with
them one hundred percent. Do not fund any new facility
(26:05):
for the FBI, because that'll be the next little bubble
that they dangle out in front of you. They should
be confirmed to that concrete tomb that they are in
right now because they hate being there, and I really
feel they shouldn't be rewarded for the way that they've
conducted themselves throughout this whole thing. Well, I'm disgusted, and
I don't know anybody for the most part, the retirees
(26:27):
that I know that have anything but lack of respect
for these people.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Every single person that I know, either currently serving or
recently retired, tells me the same thing. It is not
the agency they signed up for. Everything that they're looking
into now in the Judiciary Committee about weaponization in how
it's been politicized the FBI, it is all true. And
that to me tells us that we don't have equal
(26:52):
justice or application of our laws. They're not following standard
procedures or following through on constitutional rights. Pretty scary times,
by the way. And here it is you guys had
had created this great reputation for our family and were
you know, looked up to his deity and then it
(27:12):
along comes me and I ruined the whole family reputation.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Are you kidding me? What patters can be? I bragged
anybody who listened to me that you're my cousin, and
I said, don't hold it against him.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And by the way, and by the way, the funny
thing is probably half of them want to kill you
after that. You know, well, listen, it's great to hear
from you. And then you know, twenty eight years you
served our great country. Your brother was a hero as well, well,
both your brothers were here have your whole family's heroes.
I'll never forget your dad. I remember your your dad.
(27:44):
I think I called him Uncle Dave at the time,
I'm not sure, but he would smoke a cigarette and
he'd pop with every drag. He used to do that pop,
remember that. And I remember your your mom Bridy loving
a Gin and tonic, And I remember I was a
bartender at the time i'd make him for yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Real quick, my father would. He'd be sitting there with
a pipe, doing that popp thing with the pipe, and
he said, sure, Billy, I'm so happy to tell you
I gave up smoking.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
As he popped away on a pipe instead of a cigarette.
I remember him smoking cigarettes. I don't remember the pipe
well anyway, Bill, Thank you, my friend. God bless you
and our entire family, and and I know you agree
with me that they had much tougher lives than we did,
and they sacrificed a lot for us, and I never
forget that we stand on their shoulders.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Thanks, Shean, you're the workhorse and the conservative body.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well but trying, my friend, I'm just trying to follow
in your footsteps. Yep, all right, eight nine one seawn
our number if you want to be part of the program.
I used to call him and say, it's killing me,
it's killing me. I don't want to cover this story.
I don't want to be point on on exposing you
know what I had come grown up to Revere, you know,
(29:00):
law enforcement, the FBI, and I was brought up to
you know, I looked at him and his brother and
we were like, you know, we didn't see them often,
and then sometimes you'd see them and they like had
long hippie hair. You know, they were dressed. You know,
they were obviously clearly infiltrating something. I obviously, at my age,
I had no clue what they were doing. And you know,
(29:21):
it just was you know, we looked at them as
the pinnacle of success as an immigrant family. And they
made it when they made it to the FBI, and
that was that was the dream of their parents risking
everything coming to this country with no money. And that's
all for my grandparents. I only knew one of my grandparents.
I did not know the other three, and I didn't
(29:43):
know his dad, which was my grandfather's brother. Anyway, great people,
I'll say that. All right, that's going to wrap things
up at today. All right, the hearings of the whistle blowers.
Today we got full and complete coverage, including one of
the whistleblowers. Im pio. Kelly Ann joins us tonight. Lindsey
Graham's of New York tonight. He'll check in with us
(30:05):
in studio, Tommy Laren in studio, Dagan is in studio.
So we have a lot of fun. Ronnie Jackson and
so much more nine Eastern Hannity, Fox News, see you tonight,
back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this show possible.
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