Who Is Judge Brett Kavanaugh? - 7.10 - The Sean Hannity Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let not your heart be troubled. You are listening to
the Sean Hannity Radio Show podcast, And then I speak
for everyone, thank you for everything you've done to protect
our nation's great legal heritage. In keeping with President Reagan's legacy,
I do not ask about a nominee's personal opinions. What

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matters is not a judge's political views, but whether they
can set aside those views to do what the law
and the Constitution require. I am pleased to say that
I have found, without doubt such a person. Tonight, it

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is my honor and privilege to announce that I will
nominate Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the United States suppoin Cham.
I've spent my career in public service, from the Executive
Branch and the White House to the U. S. Court
of Appeals for the d C Circuit. I've served with
seventeen other judges, each of them a colleague and a friend.

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My judicial philosophy is straightforward. A judge must be independent.
It must interpret the law, not make the law. A
judge must interpret statutes as written, and a judge must
interpret the Constitution as written, informed by history and tradition
and precedent. All Right, that was the President making his

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big announcement about Judge Kavanaugh as his nominee to replace
Anthony Kennedy on the United States Supreme Court. I don't
know whether I start with the insanity of the left,
and let me also start by saying it didn't matter
who Donald Trump chose. The same comments, the same lies,

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the same hysteria, the same politics. It's playbook one oh one.
It happens in elections, and it happens with Supreme Court nominees.
And that is the lies, the slander, the besmirching, the attacks,
the manipulation of the American people. It is all. This

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is what the left in America is now reduced to.
It is knee jerk ism. There is no vision, there
is no insight, there is no plan. There is no
even discussion about how to make the lives of you,
the American people better. It's all about destroying any and

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all things Donald Trump. It's the media, it's liberal Democrats.
And I've got all the audio that I will play
in the course of the program that proves everything that
I am saying is true. You could replace Judge Kavanaugh's
name with any of the other contenders and you would
still be getting the same type of liberal leftist hysteria

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and reaction. Just like I have been telling you, is
the single most important midterm election that we will see
in our lifetime, because it's about the following. Not only
do they want open borders, to keep Obamacare, to impeach

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Trump but not tell you about it ahead of time.
Not only do they want their crumbs back, the tax
cuts back, but they also want to stop elections matter.
Elections have consequences. The President gets to choose the Supreme
Court justice. It is the Senate's role to advise and consent,

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and by the way, I urge them to do their job.
But what you have been hearing and what you will
hear throughout the show is not them doing their job.
You have a man of impeccable background, a man with
impeccable intellectual experience. This is a guy that has now

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served on the US Court of Appeals, which is probably
the single most influential court short of the Supreme Court,
the d C Circuit, from two thousand and six until
the present. He's confirmed fifty seven thirty six. I mean,
if you look at his family, I actually said last
night on TV, take a look at that family, because

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They're about to go through absolute hell in terms of
the slander that is now coming their way. The things
those two little girls will now hear about their father
are are just. And as I was saying it, it
had already happened. That's how prepared they were to go
after anybody. It doesn't matter his background, it doesn't matter

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that he has opinion. They don't care. They don't care
who they hurt, who they slander, because it's all about
politics to them. I mean, this is a guy whose
background He clerked for Anthony Kennedy. He worked in the
as an attorne and in the Office of Solicitor General.
He worked in the as an Associate council in the

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office of Ken's starr, the Independent Council Um, and also
a senior Associate Council to the President, that being George W.
Bush Um. He has argued cases before the United States
Supreme Court and other appellate courts. He teaches of places
like Harvard and Yale and Georgetown America's finest institutions. We

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are told I mentioned yesterday, when you when it comes
to the law, there is always nuance you're dealing. In
the case of Judge Brett Kavanaugh with somebody who has
devoted his entire adult life to studying and understanding and
basing rulings on the Constitution. The most important thing I'm

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going to tell you today, By the way, the President
has now just gotten off Air Force one and arrived
for the NATO summit. Oh and by the way, there
is he's going to tell NATO allies that they've got
to pay their fair share, which is the right thing
to do. Um. He has published articles in Yale Law
Journals and Georgetown Law Journals and Harvard Law Review and

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Notre Dame Law Review, in Minnesota Law Review, and the
Catholic University Law Review, in Marquette Lawyer. I mean, Washington Post,
Wall Street Journal. This is a serious, serious intellectual that
if you if you just stand back, and I know
that even on the Republican side that not everybody. It

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was so much lobbying that I know of that was
going on as it relates to this. Some people wanted Hardeman. Uh,
some people wanted Barrett. My first choice would have been Barrett,
that some people wanted, Um, you know, Mike Lee. Mike
Lee would have been a great choice. Um. But it's
it doesn't matter. This is the President's choice. He graduated

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Yale College, Yale Law School, was with the Yale Law Journal,
and his whole life now has been the law, the Constitution.
His entire life has been writing, studying, and has written
opinions now on nearly three cases dealing with some of

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the most complicated complicated issues arising in federal courts. Because
of being on the DC Circuit Court, the Supreme Court
itself has endorsed his positions on many High States issues.
I mean, they've been out there eleven by the way
decisions endorsed his positions, advocated his opinions, no small He

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also has argued before the U. S. Supreme Court. But
at the end of the day, let me tell you
what this battle is really all about. This battle is
about the left in America. What they cannot get done
at the ballot box, what they cannot get done legislatively
because it will be rejected and they will be immediately

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fired if they advocate their true views. It's sort of
like telling Maxine Waters and others, all right, we hear
you on impeachment, just stop chanting in peach forty five.
At Peach forty five, we'll do it. But just you know, stop.
Keith Ellison already is talking about impeaching Judge Kavanaugh if
the Democrats get control of the House. I mean, this
is how the left is going after Pam BONDI uh,

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And they're going after Secretary Nielsen, and Sarah Sanders can't
go to a restaurant with her kids. And Mitch McConnell
now has had it twice, and Kelly Anne has now
had it again, and Avanka Trump and Melania Trump Baron
Trump is twelve years old. Leave the kid alone, and

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the and the granddaughter of the President. Don Junior's four
year old daughter was threatened by this idiot in Canada
on Twitter that they're going after her. This is the
environment now that the left has created. You saw this
last night as as soon as I got off the air.
You have the center I think for the American politics.

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And we've got the tape. I'll get to it. It's
just so much to talk about, screeching and screaming. I
have an entire pile in front of me of insane
things that the left has said, starting with my favorite
Nina tok Totemberg, whatever his name is, Totenberg saying that
this is the end of the world as we know it.

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I mean she said it before the President even selected
Judge Cavanaugh. You can't make this up. You know you
have party leaders Dick Durban, by the way, this is
great telling people like Tester and Bill Nelson and Claire
mccaskell and Joe Manchion and Heidi hikim Uh you must

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commit political suicide read state Trump supporting states telling Democratic
senators to give up your career over this um and
under no circumstances give Judge Kavanaugh the benefit of the doubt.
Terry mccauloff said, the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh will
threaten the lives of millions of Americans. No, it won't.

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They don't like that they lost. That's what this is about.
And just like we saw with the Women's March right
after the president was inaugurated, and just like all the
hope and dreams of every Democrat has been put in
the hands of Robert Mueller that has come up empty.
Now too, this is now. This is their stand, and

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they will scream and holler and him and hall and
lie and slander and besmirch and use character assassination. There's
a great piece I forgot where I saw this, I
forgive me whoever wrote it. Who killed the center left
in America? There is no center left. You know, you
watch college students saying they despised Trump's Supreme Court nominee

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before he announced who it was. Knee jerk hatred that
they have. You know, my colleague Shannon Bream had to
cancel her show last night. She was at the steps
of the United States Supreme Court, but because of the
volatile protests, felt so threatened. He tweeted out, very few

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times I felt threatened while out in the field. The
mood here tonight is very volatile. Law enforcement appears to
be closing down First Street in front of the Supreme
Court of the United States. And this is now you
have a comedian bashing people that believe in life, saying
abortion should be as easy as pushing the on demand button.

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I mean, you know what, did Bill Clinton say? Abortions
should be legal? But rare a belief that you know,
it's not a great thing, you know, or if you
have rape or incestor the mother's life three exceptions. I've
always embraced my whole life because I think there is
context and nuanced to life, and I think those are

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three examples. All Right, when we get back, I'll tell
you what I'm going to do before we get to
the crazies, and I'm gonna play the craziest we got
it all. The most important thing you need to focus
on in this whole, this circus that the left is creating,
what is the judicial philosophy of Judge Kavanaugh. Because rightly

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Republican presidents have messed up Supreme Court choices, everybody should
be skeptical. I think that's actually a good thing. I
will tell you what gives me. I don't know him,
never talk to him, but I'll tell you what gives
me the most hope about him and what concerns I have,
which is probably the Obamacare statute that he rendered an

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opinion on that would allow it to be attacks. I
didn't like that. But I'm gonna read to you what
he said about what Judge Scalia stood for as a judge,
his judicial philosophy. That's next. Al Right, as we roll along,
Sean Hannity Show one, Sean, all right, Judge Brett Kavanaugh

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for the U. S. Supreme Court. It all comes down
to judicial philosophy. Let me read you something. This gives
me the most hope because this is what I'm going
to read you fits my judicial philosophy. What I want
in a justice as somebody that believes in coequal branches
of government and separation of powers. And he described how

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like Scalia, this was at George Mason Law School at
an administrative law conference that he is devoted to textualism
and originalism. I read this last night. I'm gonna read it,
you know. I let me read it in full at
the bottom of the app let me because I want
you to really absorb this because the most important thing

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you need to understand in this is what this means
for potentially forty years. Justice Kennedy was on the Supreme
Court for thirty years that is way beyond Ronald Reagan's presidency,
and is this will impact our kids, our grandkids, our

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culture for many generations now to come. Besides sending kids off,
of president sending kids off and making the difficult decision
to allow American treasure, our children to go fight a
war where they're gonna risk their life in their limbs

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because of the president is the commander in chief. This
is the next single most important thing that a president
us because it will it is part of their legacy,
and I know we've had I known for many and
at times myself Anthony Kennedy was a disappointment. And you know,

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just as soon or do I need anything he needs
say anymore. It was a colossal mistake. But then you
get people like Scalia, Clarence Thomas, Justice Alito, who I
think has been phenomenal, Neil Gorsuch. So far it looks
really good and it's about the future of American culture.

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So I'm what I'm gonna do is I'll take this
quick break, I'll come back. I'm gonna read what he
said about judicial philosophy and much more. One Shawn is
on number We got a lot to get to new
Ingrich and Alan Dershwitz and so much more. Alright now
until the top of the hour, one Shawn, if you
want to be a part of the program, you know,

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I don't understand. You know, it's so much had a
call like an hour or two ago from a friend
of mine at Fox and said, by the way, some
guy at BuzzFeed wants to talk to you. I said, okay,
I'll talk after the show, my radio show. It doesn't matter.
They put up an article. There's nothing in this that

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is true, and I'm just trying to understand how the
media works. I've never heard of Stephen Pearlberg of BuzzFeed.
It's he says, he's a news reporter for them, and
the headline is Bill Shine White House job isn't good
for Fox News, For Fox Sean Hannity is increasingly estranged
from Fox News management. And it goes on to talk

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about Bill Shine and and how he worked at Fox
and was the president of Fox, etcetera, etcetera, and and
now I was working in the White House. And then
it goes on to talk about me and says, but
according to people familiar with the matter, shines political ascent
has brought renewed stress and paranoia. Fox News executive ranks

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more than a year blah blah blah blah. If the
he's out, then it goes on to say about me instead,
about after they hired Bill um and that somehow his
new job, um, you know, is a problem for Fox.
A spokesperson for Fox News and Hannity did not return

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requests for coming I said an hour and a half ago,
I talked to them, and it goes Hannity's level of
freelancing has irked some of at the top Fox News
and its parent company, Century Fox, including Rupert Murdoch's sons
James and Laughlin, who are increasingly feel like Hannity's gone rogue,
as one source put it, and that Hannity talks to

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the president almost nightly. It goes on to say, and
that I've spent time bad mouthing my network, which I
love and I put my life's blood into I am
so wan or that I got hired at Fox twenty
three years ago. It has been a gift in my life.
That just isn't true. And Hannity has maintained his leverage,

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uh and his singular importance to the network's conservative audience
by bringing in huge ratings. Here we're number one, thanks
to all of you that listen to this program. And uh,
I just gotta tell you, my relationship has never been
better with the management of Fox, and it's never been

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what they're saying here is not true. Rupert Murdoch has
been wonderful to me. I don't know James Murdock that well,
but I know Lachlan and he's been wonderful to me.
So I'm kind of like, why don't you guys talk
to me? First, maybe not people that must have some agenda.
And um, I just have a great working relationship with

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everybody there except I guess a few people may not
like me, but that's their problem them. You know, I
assume some people disagree with my opinions. Anyway, onto more
important matters. UM, I want to read because this all
comes down to one thing, judicial philosophy. What do we
want as conservatives, What do we believe the role of

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the judiciary is as conservatives Versus what does the left want?
I love what News said on this program yesterday. If
you just thirty seconds before the president comes out, just
imagine that it was gonna be Hillary Clinton coming out
to announce her second nominee to the United States Supreme Court,
because she would be looking for a judicial activist, someone

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that wants to legislate from the bench, someone that doesn't
respect coequal branches, doesn't respect separation of powers. We even
have some members of the Supreme Court that have gone
as far as to actually cite foreign law to justify
their radical, judicial activist opinions. The people that I have

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most admired in my lifetime on the Supreme Court. If
you've never taken the time to listen to arguments in
the Supreme Court, you get audio in cases you don't
get you don't that we obviously don't have cameras in
the courtroom. There. It is the most fascinating intellectual exercise
you will ever hear. And for example, somebody might be

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arguing a point and they don't get three words out,
and they're being interrupted by a justice and they have
to be quick and on their feet because all the
justices have already read their arguments, and they basically then
have questions about it. And it doesn't go on for
a very long or extended period of time, but it
is a powerful back and forth that sometimes takes place.

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And Anthony Scalia was well known for his wit, his humor,
his intellectualism, and I love what he once said that,
you know, there are times as a judge that you
must do with the demands, not what you personally like.
So as a conservative, we believe in separation of powers,

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coequal branches. We believe in the Constitution, that this is
a constitutional republic. We don't think judges ought to be
writing law from the bench to advance a liberal agenda,
because that's what elections are about, and that's what the
legislative branch of government is about and that's their job.

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So what Judge Kavanaugh said in two thousand and six
at this administrative law conference hosted by George Mason Law School,
Judge Brett Kavanaugh described how, like Justice Scalia, he devoted
textualism and what is known as originalism and rejects unbridled
judicial activism. Let me quote him to you, because this

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gives me the most hope about the president's action, because
this is my judicial philosophy. This is what I believe
in what he said, and he's actually said much of this.
Last night he said, quote, what did Justice Scolias stand
for as a judge? He wrote, It's not complicated, but
it is profound and worth repeating. Often the judge's job

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is to interpret the law, not to make the law
or make policy. He writes, So read the words or
he spoke, Read the words of the statute as written,
in other words, the law written by the legislative branch.
Then he writes. Then he said, read the text of
the Constitution has written mindful of history and tradition. And

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last night he talked and added the word precedence. He said,
don't make up new constitutional rights. That are not in
the text of the constitution. Don't shy away from enforcing
constitutional rights that are in the text of the Constitution.
And he wrote, changing the constitution is for the amendment process.

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We have a constitutional process to change the constitution. It's difficult.
The bar is high, but it was designed to be high.
And he writes, changing the constitution, you know, changing policy
within constitutional bounds. As for the legislative branch, remember that

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the structure of the constitution, the separation of powers and
federalism co equal branches. In other words, he says, are
not mere matters of etiquette or architecture, but are at
least as essential to protecting individual liberty as the individual
rights that are guaranteed in that text. He goes on,

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and remember that courts have a critical role when a
party has standing in enforcing those separation of powers and
federalism limits. And he says, simple but profound. Now. He
also talked about in a speech before Catholic University Law

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Review and wrote for them, he laid out his vision
of the constitutional separation of powers and the role of
a judge is an umpire in our system, and he said,
at its core, in our separation of power system. To
be an umpire as a judge means to follow the

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law and not to make or remake the law, and
to be impartial in how we go about doing that
he goes on. A good umpire should not be making
up the strike zone as he or she goes along. Judges, likewise,
should not make up the rules as they go along.

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We see this in statutory interpretation. For example, a good
judge sticks to the established text and canons of instruction
that helped guide us in interpreting ambiguous text. Justice antonin
Scalia had a profound influence on statutory interpretation, and one

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of the things he has helped us to do is
to narrow the areas of disagreement about how to interpret
the statutes. In other words, what the legislative branch passes
as law. Every judge now seems to start with the
text of the statute and then he has commented on
religious liberty issues and consistently. As a background of having

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defended religious freedom and the Second Amendment, he um you
know argued in in interpreting the Second Amendment Heller versus
the District of Columbia, he descended from the courts majority
by writing the district's ban on the possession of semi
automatic firearms is unconstitutional, and his descent was quoted approvingly

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by Justice Thomas and asking whether the challenge law complies
with the text, history, tradition of the Second Amendment. Also
on issues of free speech, etcetera, etcetera. The only issue
that the big issue that I seem to have. He's
also shown in an area of growth in when he
worked with ken Star's office. You know, his views on

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as it relates to Clinton and obstruction and and the
role of independent councils at the time. Now we've got
a special counsel and it's basically evolved into the same
mess as the independent council law. Um. And then then
the two thousand and nine reversed themselves and said, no,
I don't, this is not what I support. So let

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me just go to the left for a second here,
and we're gonna spend time. We've got new Gingridge coming up.
We've got Alan Dersho, what's coming up. We've got uh,
my friend Greg Jared is stopping by Sarah Carter Ali
North today. We've got a lot of opinions. Let me
play some of the insanity of Democrats in the Senate,
and you know people like Schumer and Warren and Booker

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and Jillibrand and Durban and Feinstein and Blueman, Ball and
the rest of them. Listen, President Trump, with the nomination
of Judge Kavanaugh, has fulfilled or is fulfilling two of
his campaign promises for the first to undo women's reproductive freedom,
second to undo a c A. And so I will
oppose him with everything I've got. I want to know

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something about this judge's values, and what he's revealed so
far is not something that reflects America's values. I will
be saying with even stronger voice, and we as the
United States Senate, forget partisanship or what have you, a
respect for the constitution to avoid a constant constitutional crisis.
We cannot let this confirmation process go forward, especially now

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that we have someone uh that has clearly said that
they have a strong opinion should any of those issues
come before the Supreme Court. Tell your story, are do
not give up with the Senate to the right things
against Cavanaugh. Deciding between the freedom of women to plan

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their own families and the strong hand of government, women
lose in Kavanaugh's courts Kavanaugh's views on the Second Amendment
or straight out of the gun lobby playbook. Washington, d C,
where he grew up, would be wild West DC if
Judge Kavanaugh had his way. Brett Kavanaugh appears to meet

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all President Trump's promises of how his candidate will rule
on specific issues. His views are outside the mainstream, and
there's every reason to believe he would overturn Row. So
here is a memo to the Parkland students. If you
care about common sense gun violence protection, Judge Kavanaugh is

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your worst nightmare. My colleagues should be a no on
this nominee unless Judge Kavanaugh specifically commits that he will
recuse himself on any issues that involve President Trump's personal
financial dealings or the special Counsel. There is enormous grounds

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for suspicion right now about this nominee. We cannot go
back to a time when women are made criminals for
making a choice about what to do with their own bodies.
We cannot go back to a time when they can't
make a decision about their own contraceptive This is about
replacing the authority of government, putting the government's authority ahead

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of the authority of a woman to make a decision
about her own body and her future. So if you
are a young woman in America, or you care about
a young woman in America, pay attention to this because
it will forever change your It's all out of the
one on one playbook of the Left and the Democrat.

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This is a party now that has zero vision to
make our lives better, and they cannot in any way
except they lost in They are in a complete meltdown.
They're gonna be in a meltdown in Europe, just like
they were with Reagan. Now that the president's touchdown in Brussels,

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will go to London and then to Helsinki. These are
very insane times. Where do you hear the stuff? We're
gonna play at the top of the next hour. We
got Greg Jarrett, Sarah Carter, we got New Gingrich, Allen Dershowitz,
and Colonel North. We're trying hard. Three hours a day
is all we ask one little baby hour at night
just to drive the left nuts. It's all coming up.

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Eight nine one, Shan, we continue the Shawn Hannity Show. Alright,
glad you're with a Sean Hannity Show. Right down a
toll free telephone number. We'd love to hear from you.
It's eight hundred for one, Shawn, you want to be
a part of the program. A lot coming up today
new Gingrich Alan Dershowitz joins us today. Uh, Colonel Oliver
North and let me go back to where we left

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off in the last hour, because, as is predictable now,
on every level, the left in this country, whoever the
president chose, they would have opposed. I told you my
favorite was Nina Totenberg. This is the end of the
world as we know it, which she said on MPR.

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She's a Supreme Court reporter and uh, you notorious, you know,
cheerleader of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And so that's her points,
end of the world as we know it. Then I
just played you all the senators, they all they could
have just plugged in the name and they would have
said the same thing about any choice of Donald Trump.

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I'm convinced if Donald Trump gave every man, woman and
child in this country ten million dollars, they would still
hate him. They wake up in the morning and they
hate him. They they literally live for the next tweet
so they can be outraged. They live in a constant
state of feigned moral outrage. American people, meanwhile, are laughing.

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They get the president. They've gotten used to the fact
he is not going to ever be an establishment figure.
He wouldn't have been elected if he was. And they
kind of like that he's gonna go tell NATO as
he has landed in Brussels that they need to pay
more as it relates to the treaty that we have.
And they kind of like the fact that, you know,

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he's gonna go to London and they're gonna be crazy
leftists that show up. It's very reminiscent of what Reagan
had when he was president. They didn't like Reagan either.
They don't like strong presidents. You know, let me just
play a little bit more of the media and Democrats,
you know, let me play them criticizing the president for
he made the decision. They already hated it. You just

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have to remember how extensive the conservative agenda is here
for for the Supreme Court. It's not just rolling back
abortion rights. It's not just rolling back gay rights. It's
not just eliminating um affirmative action. It's not just expanding
the death penalty. I've never recalled a previous president outsourcing
at least the initial selection process to an outside interest group,

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the way that this president has to the federalist society.
Woman's freedom to make sensitive healthcare decisions hang in the
balance with this nominee. It is near impossible to imagine
that President Trump would select a nominee who is in
hostile to our health care law and health care for

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millions and millions and millions of Americans, who is in
hostile to a woman's freedom to make our own healthcare decisions.
For the President, it's going to be all about the
personal connection who he feels comfortable with in the moment
saying he's going to pick the man so as R. E.

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M wants put at the end of the world as
we know it. I've never seen a president United States
in effect make himself a puppet of outside groups and
choose from a group of right wing fringe ideologues. I
frankly don't even think we should be considering this nominee alright, So,
but there are others in red states, like I just

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saw the John Tester, he's in a big race this
year that he might vote to confirm Kavanaugh. What's Claire
mccaskell gonna do? She won't win, So are they're gonna
have an election year conversion. Dick Durbin is telling them
to give up their careers for this vote. I'd like
to see him do that. And then you've got other
people like Bill Nelson of Florida. Heide High Camp is

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another one mansion of West Virginia. I mean, all of
these people are in big trouble because this is their
red state Democrats. Now let me play for you. Let's
go to like the media. This is MSNBC. Listen to
this insane conspiracy theory. It is Judge Kavanaugh, who, I believe,

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alone on that list is the only one who's on
the record at length on this question of whether a
president is subject should be subject to criminal investigation, civil lawsuits, indictment, impeachment,
and all the rest of it. I mean, he he's
the only one from that list who said a lot
on the record in print on this matter that the
White House could have reviewed. And he's the one that

(35:37):
they picked. Um. I can't imagine that under any other
president picking him. You can imagine another Republican president picking
Brett Kavanaugh, but with no other president picking him, would
your first concern be that maybe he was picking him
because the President thought he wouldn't indict him. Does the
phrase judge shopping come to mind? And that's where he's
electing the decisive vote in the court that will rule

(35:59):
on whether he has to respond to a subpoena or not.
He's a near term concerns. The next within this year,
he may have to the court may have to rule
whether he has to be questioned by by Moller. These
are very near term questions. Yeah, off the rails, I know,
unhinged joining us Now, there's new book is out just
in two short weeks. It's on Hannity dot com, Amazon

(36:21):
dot com, and it captures it all. It will be
the definitive book on this Russia hoax, the illicit scheme
to clear Hillary Clinton frame Donald Trump. That's Greg Jarrett,
Fox News legal analysts and investigative reporter. Fox News contributor
Sarah Carter um, it didn't matter who we picked, it
was gonna be the same thing. Oh, it absolutely did.
And for my favorite stupid quote comes from the ever

(36:45):
of tuse and slow witted Terry McCullough, former governor of Virginia,
who is a Clinton lackey for decades, and he tweeted
out that the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh will uh destroy
the lives of let me get the exact quote here.
It is will threaten the lives of millions of Americans

(37:09):
for decades to come. In other words, according to the comic,
people will die. Look when you when you say something
or tweet something that profoundly stupid, you are only hurting
your cause, the cause of the Democratic Party. And maybe
there are some people out there who legitimately, you know,
might object to Kavanaugh, although he is ininently well qualified,

(37:32):
head and shoulders above anybody else on the list of
twenty five. But but fine, But when you conjure up
the boogeyman like this that people are gonna die, it
threatens the lives of millions. Uh, you're just self destructing.
And that's the classic, you know, democratic theme. Now you
heard it from Chuck Schumer, you played a clip of it,

(37:54):
and you're hearing it from the media. Jeff Tubin over
at CNN Andrew Mitchell at MSNBC. Man, hysteria, abortion will
be outlawed throughout America. That is not what would happen.
It would revert back to the States. That's only if
row were overturned that's correct, it would go back. So
in other words, would you agree with May? Probably forty

(38:15):
eight states would have abortion legal, maybe all fifty. I
would say forty five at least some with restrictions, others
with the rental notification three months. Sure, some of the
stuff that has actually been upheld into the Casey decision
planned parenthood versus Casey. So and and Democrats, if any

(38:37):
of them have an ounce of intelligence. No, they're lying
to the American people, but they're assuming that Americans are
so stupid that they'll buy into their lie. What about
You're in Washington every day, Sarah, and you're in the
halls of Congress every day, and I just really want
to get your reaction and what you hear. We have
gotten a little insight lea from Makowski saying, uh, well,

(38:57):
there were some people on the president's list I would
have had a difficult time supporting, but just based on
what was publicly known about them, we're not dealing with that.
And Susan Collins seemed to be okay, Rand Paul and
Ted Cruz. I know they would have picked other people,
but I can't imagine they would oppose the president on
such an important decision with such a close margin in
the Senate. I don't it doesn't appear that they will.

(39:21):
And and like you said earlier, Sean, they're going to
be a lot of Democrats, I mean, who are hanging
in the balance come the elections, and they're not gonna wanna,
you know, go against the voters, um, who are going
to be watching them very carefully in some of these
states that are so important come November. I also think
it's really disingenuous of the Democrats. It goes to show

(39:42):
you it's like children screaming and crying. You know, they
didn't get their way. They were going to be angry
no matter who was picked. And it's disingenuous to the
American people to put out these overexaggerated lies. Um. Of course,
the selection of a Supreme Court justice is very important.
I think what they're so frustrated about, so angry about,

(40:03):
is that Kennedy, you know, left that seat open and
allowed the President to put someone in his place. Uh,
they're very angry about that. This is just a reaction
to that. They're just spewing out lies out of anger.
And I think that you know, in the end, what
they're most angry about, particularly the Democrats in this situation,

(40:26):
is the fact that this is solidifying a legacy for
President Donald Trump. This is part of that legacy that
he will have. And who knows if other seats will
become vacant in the future, and that that would be
even more extraordinary. Um let me, let me go back
to last night and it didn't matter. It was basically,
let's protest fill in the blank. This is Podesta's Center

(40:49):
for American Progress. Now it's given me a headache and

(41:24):
we really have to go back to Hey, hey, ho ho,
I mean it is it's so un original high school cheerily,
it's the standard high ho ho. Come on, man oh man.
Elections have you know, I don't understand they really want
a justice that will legislation from the bench. Why would
Congress want to serve their power because they know they'll

(41:44):
never get it done at the ballot box or legislatively. Absolutely,
and they love people like Stephen Bryan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg
who do exactly that that they view this Constitution as
you know, gumby it. It is so flexible and elastic,
you can stretch, shouldn't contorted and twisted anyway to do
how you have just dated yourself. Gumby was my favorite.

(42:07):
It was it was sort of one of those claimation things.
What was the one on Sundays about Um? It was
a Christian one David and David that was so great.
I watched that one, UM, and I bet you Sarah
Carter has no idea what we're talking about with Gumby.
She's too young. I didn't know what you were talking
about on the other day. Um. Well, you know, the

(42:32):
bottom line here is I don't see with all the noise,
I don't see where they win. How do they win?
And John McCain is he seems ill and not gonna
be counted on his vote anyway. Look, I think you
were right when you pointed out that people like Mansion
and Hyde, Cap and Donne Lee and Tester and others
are going to be under enormous pressure. These are democrats

(42:57):
in ultra red states that Trump won by hugh huge margins,
and so they will be saying to themselves, shall I
betray the idiots in my party and vote to help
myself perpetuate my own power? And and they'll always choose
themselves because that's what Washington politicians. That's not what Dick

(43:17):
Durban is advising them. You know, Durban's the guy who
smeared uh twelve years ago Brett Kavanaugh by calling him
the Forrest Gump of Republican politics, which only you know,
goes to prove just how dumb Dick Durban is. We'll
take a break. Greg's book by the Way out in
two weeks, The Russia Hoax, the illicit scheme, and by

(43:39):
the way, you want to get your copy as soon
as possible to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump.
Amazon dot com, Hannity dot Com, or with Sarah Carter
and Greg on the other side, than we've got Alan Dershowitz.
We've got new king Ridge Hall coming up right as
we continue on Sean Hannity's show, We've got Alan Dershowitz
at the bottom of this hour. We'll talk to him
about the president, Supreme Corps choice, criminalization of political differences. Um,

(44:04):
Why Greg Jarrett, are they now putting off the sentencing
of Michael Flynn yet again? And what about Manafort that's
rotting twenty three hours in solitary confinement having been convicted
of nothing and the only charges earlier about a two
thousand and five tax case. Well, judged today in in
Virginia order did he be moved out of the location

(44:27):
hundred miles away and into a jail in Alexandria, Virginia
so acceding to the request of Manafort's lawyers. Um, why
is he in jail at all? She should never be
in jail. It's outrageous, it's over the top. This was
Amy Berman Jackson, the Washington DC judge who issued that
particular order, and she's being blatantly unfair. Um, the allegation

(44:50):
was he was tampering with witnesses. Well, even if he were,
that's not grounds for putting a nonviolent uh individual suspected
of a tax odd case behind bars. You give an
ankle bracelet, confined him to his home. You take away
his computers and his cell phone. It's as simple as that.
And could you could actually turn off all cell service

(45:10):
in the phone. We have the capability you take all
these devices away in and out. Yeah, you don't put
him in solitary confinement in a jail. What do you
think's going on, Sarah Carter as it relates to this case,
what do you think it is? Honestly, Sean, I mean,
from the very beginning, I think they're trying to squeeze
Manifort there. Judge ellis my friend. Yeah, yeah, I mean

(45:35):
it's just there's no doubt here that they're putting all
the pressure they can. They looked for a very old case.
They brought a case against him that has nothing to
do with Russia collusion or anything connected to Russia and
the campaign. Um, they're squeezing him. They're making his life miserable,
they're making his family's life miserable. And they're just hoping

(45:56):
with all hope that they could either get him to
sing or like you say it, and the judge said, uh, compose,
compose some kind of song that they can think their
teeth into. And now we know you know Wiseman? Why
you know Andrew Wiseman, who has been notoriously known and
reprimanded by judges for his behavior in the courtroom, for

(46:17):
withholding exculpatory evidence, for playing dirty tricks. I mean, I
guess that's why they call him the pit bull. We'll
see he's in trouble now too. So all right, we'll
see I gotta run. We'll see you both on TV tonight,
Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett. Uh, we'll check in with Professor
Alan Dershowitz on his take on the President's choice for

(46:38):
the Supreme Court New Gingri Cholie north All coming up.
Stay with US. President Trump, with the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh,
has fulfilled or is fulfilling two of his campaign promises,
first to undo women's reproductive freedom, second to undo a
c A. And so I will oppose him with everything
I've got. I want to know something about this, just values,

(47:01):
and what he's revealed so far is not something that
reflects America's values. I will be saying with even stronger
voice than we as the United States Senate, forget partnisanship
or what have you of a respect for the Constitution.
To avoid a constant constitutional crisis, we cannot let this
confirmation process go forward, especially now that we have someone

(47:25):
that has clearly said that they have a strong opinion
should any of those issues come before the Supreme Court.
Tell your story, be heard, do not give up. We
must convince the Senate to do the right thing as
then against Cabina, Cava, Gus cabin deciding between the freedom

(47:48):
of women to plan their own families and the strong
hand of government. Women lose in Kavanaugh's courts Kavanaughs views
on the Second Amendment or straight out of the gun
lobby playbook. Washington, d C, where he grew up, would
be wild West DC. If Judge Kavanaugh had his way,

(48:08):
His views are outside the mainstream, and there's every reason
to believe he would overturn Row. So here is a
memo to the park Land students. If you care about
common sense gun violence protection, Judge Kavanaugh is your worst nightmare.

(48:29):
My colleagues should be a note on this nominee. Unless
Judge Kavanaugh specifically commits that he will recuse himself on
any issues that involve President Trump's personal financial dealings or
the special counsel. There is enormous grounds for suspicion right
now about this nominee. Ah, the doom, the gloom, the

(48:55):
predictable talking points, working fearmongering. It's actually pretty sad um anyway,
glad you with us twenty four now until the top
of the hour. One Shawn is a toe free telephone number.
Joining us now is somebody that I have a great
respect for that doesn't always agree with my political views
in any way, shape, matter, or form um. But he

(49:16):
has talked at length about how we are now in
this country criminalizing political differences. He has a brand new
book out that is now costing him dearly at Martha's Vineyard,
which I'm getting a real kick out of. It's called
The Case against Impeaching Trump. Uh. Alan Dershowitz, Professor Dershowitz
from Harvard A Law School is with us. Um, I'm

(49:37):
sorry that I'm getting amused by the happenings on Martha's Vineyard.
But it's actually, on the one hand, it's sad, and
I'm sorry you have to go through it. It's very sad.
On the other hand, I think it is very indicative
of the polarization that has gone way off the rails
in the country. In my opinion, I agree that it's

(49:59):
you know, it's not a about me on Martha's Vineyard.
I could do a few of parties. Um, it's about
how you can't talk to each other. Look, you and
I disagree about so many things, but we talk to
each other. We have our disagreements, then we shake hands
and we come back for the next level of agreement.
To a disagreement. In America, whether it be on college

(50:20):
campuses or when it comes to Supreme Court confirmations, you
have to pick sides and the other side has no virtues,
and your side has no vices, and everybody lives in silos,
and nobody wants to interact with anybody else. And it's
it's it's a shame. Um. You know, the folks in
the viney to learn their lesson, and they're now back
communicating with me. It's in writing now. Now they're writing

(50:43):
the emails telling you who I am wrong. Look, that's better.
And then I'm going to have an event at the
Big Theater in Martha's Vineard where I challenge anybody to
come and ask me questions, and I will not leave
the event until every critical question, every critical statement has
been made. That's what town halls are about. That's what
democracy is about. But saying that I don't want to

(51:04):
talk to you, you you have nothing to tell me if
you're on Trump side, that's the end of the issue.
That's just not America. It's not the America I grew
up in where I went to Brooklyn College. We thought
about everything every issue. I grew up during. McCarthy is
m one of my One of the professors of Brooklyn
College who arguments with was Eugene Scalia, Justice Scaliah's father,

(51:25):
and we remain friends. Uh and I remained friends with
his son. I didn't agree with Justice Scalia about everything
he wrote, but I love Justice Scalia as a person
and as an individual, and we became good friends over time.
I think that's the America I want to see us
get back to you. You were actually kind enough and
I actually have never been to Martha's vineyard, but you're

(51:47):
kind enough to say, hey, listen, why don't you come.
I have these talks. No no, no, I mean and
and I'm like you, if it's the right environment, I'll
talk to anybody for as long as it takes. You know,
as a conservative, it's it's been my friends and people
I know that are shouted down and threatened and literally

(52:07):
run off the stage. Um, it's gotten so bad. Look
where they did to poor Sarah Huckabee just taking her
family to a restaurant. Look, you know, look at what
Secretary Nielsen had to go through in a restaurant and
then at her home. And it's now also you can
add to that Pam Bandi and Steve Miller and Kelly
and Conway, and the horrible thing said about the president's
son and grand daughter who's four years old, and Milani

(52:29):
and Avanca, I don't know. I mean, I look, for example,
a Judge Kavanaugh, and I read everything I possibly can.
I had no dog in this this race at all,
and I know people did. And what I see as
a guy that is a strong intellectual with incredible and
impeccable um, with an impeccable background, that has written thoughtful, smart,

(52:49):
well researched opinions, not all that I agree with Obamacare
being one of them. And I would listen. And I
saw his family last night, and I heard his comments
last night. And I read his comments in two thousand
and nine in the Minnesota Law Review, and I read
his comments on originalism in two thousand and six. And
this guy is a real scholar. He's not only a

(53:12):
real scholar, but he's a scholar with an open mind.
He's changed his mind about issues. I know because he's
interacted with the number of my friends and colleagues at
Harvard Law School. You can imagine they don't all agree
with him, and people, for the most part admire him
and like him. It was an upbedding Today's New York
Times by a che Lamar who is a very liberal Democrat.
He cried when Donald Trump got elected, he was really

(53:34):
so distraught, and he writes a problem saying, this is
a brilliant man, an open minded man. I heard the
same thing from several other colleagues who know him well.
Am I going to agree with all of his opinions?
Of course not. But what's happened to judicial confirmation? Look
when Scholia came up for confirmation, there was I think
to one or something like that Ginsburg, something over ninety Brier.

(53:59):
But now everything is along party lines, and the judiciary
is becoming very politicized, and the Americans are the poorer
for it. We need an independent judiciary. We need judges
who are open minded, nonpartisans, who will apply the law
fairly the way they see it. Obviously they're going to
be influenced by their ideology, by their background, but nonetheless

(54:21):
they're doing it honestly in an attempt to implement the
words of the Constitution. You know, I loved his words
when he said the job of a judge is not
to is to interpret the law, not to make law
or make policy. To read the exact words in a
statute which is written by the legislative branch has written
and read the text of the Constitution has written, mindful

(54:44):
of history and tradition, and don't make up new constitutional
rights not in the text. Don't shy away from enforcing
constitutional rights that are in the text. And he said,
changing the constitutions for the amendment process, changing policy because
for our legislature. Now I agree, And in my new book,
The Case Against the Peaching Trump, I take a very
literal view of the impeachment criteria. Constitution says to be

(55:06):
impeached and removed, you have to be found guilty of treason, bribery,
or other high crimes or misdemeanors. And some of the
people on the left are saying, well, that doesn't mean
when it says even if there's um, you know, kind
of maladministration, that's good enough. Or uh, if he does
something bad an office that we don't approve of, that's
bad enough. But that's not what the Constitution says. Constitution says,

(55:27):
you be two thirds vote, you can't change that. Why
should you be able to change bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors. Treason,
You can't change it. It's in the text of the Constitution.
If you don't like it. To men the Constitution. But
sometimes being a literalist gives you more rights because you
literally have to apply the rights in the Constitution. And
impeachment is a good example to lay it out. As

(55:49):
a liberal, why I want to see the Constitution adhere
to literally and very much in tune with what the
frame's had in mind. Staliah once said, a good job
must conclude as the law demands in spite of it,
even if they personally do not like the decision. I

(56:10):
thought that was pretty powerful. Well, you know, he once
came to my class and we talked together for two hours,
and I put to him a bunch of quick cases
where he had come to conclusions that I didn't agree with.
And he said, in the end, you know, some of
these conclusions he didn't agree with um, but he had
to apply the law. Now, look, every judge deviates from that.

(56:31):
Bush versus Gore was not the ideal example of nonpartisan
law enforcement. You could take different views on that. But
when you get a case that goes along party lines,
you really have to wonder. But you know, nine of
the cases in the Supreme Court are not decided to
long party lines. You get Ginsburg joining with with Roberts
and you get Kagan uh joining with Thomas. So it

(56:56):
depends on the nature of the case. But look, we
all ought to have an open mind. We are to listen.
I haven't made up my mind about Kavanaugh. I want
to hear what he says. I want to read more
of what he's written. I, you know, like some of
the things he said, and I don't like other things
he said. I want to hear what he believes about precedent.
I don't care what he cares about a particular case
because when he's on the bench thirty years from now,

(57:17):
those aren't going to be He's actually written about precedent
about our grandchildren. Yeah, he said that the Constitution has written,
the Statute has written. But he also said mindful of
history and tradition. I took that to mean precedence. I
did too. I did too, and I think that's right.
And I think he will abide by precedent. He's not
going to overrule ro versus way. He may not expand it,
not extend it. He may look at it in a

(57:39):
narrow way, but he's not going to Professor. This is
a great question. Well, everybody fearmongers on Roe v. Wade.
I would argue to you. And I think a lot
of people think Roe v. Wade that ends abortion in America.
It does not. It would send it back to the states,
And I would argue, I think I could make a
strong case that in at least forty eight states, maybe

(58:00):
more abortion would be legal. There would be different variations,
you know, in terms of restrictions or parental notification and such.
But UH, and states like New York and California and
so many other Blue states, they would be the most
liberal laws in the country. Would not. Abortion is not
at risk y. It is reported that you is reported

(58:22):
that you supported Judge Barracks in the Seventh Circuit. Now,
she has said that she believes the fetus is an
innocent human being that deserves protection. Did that mean that
she would not allow New York to permit abortion, because
if you? Because she answered that too. Though she said
that she she liked Scalia because she wrote extensively on originalism.

(58:44):
Uh was a believer in that her own personal views
will not impact her decisions, and she was very clear
about that. And we must follow what the law and
the Constitution demands. But the Constitution is doesn't mention abortion
at all. But it does say it can't be deprived
of life without due process of law. And there are
some right to lifers who say there should be a

(59:05):
constitutional right to life and a state can't take that
away from me. There are three positions on abortion, the
ro Versus way, privacy, Trump's the right to life. There
is the position that says leave it to the states.
Then there's the third position, not articulated by very many,
which says that the fetus has a right that can't
be taken away by the state. And what I would

(59:25):
love to hear it because I think that Barrett may
come up again for consideration Justice Ginsberg or anybody else,
I'd love to hear her views on that issue. I
I totally agree with you, and I think you know this. Also,
remember when we had John Kennedy was running and he
gave his speech on Catholicism. I mean, the greatest ever given,
one of the greatest speeches ever given. A right. Your

(59:46):
book is phenomenal. By the way we put it up
on Hannity dot com. It's called the Case against Impeaching Trump.
Professor Alan Dershowitz, who has been with us and sadly
he has been targeted and full don't talk to Alan Dershowitz,
which is ridiculous. We'll take a quick break, we'll come back,
all right. As we continue, Professor Allen Dershowitz at Harvard

(01:00:08):
is with us. He is brand new book. It's on
Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com, bookstores everywhere. Um, we
only have about a minute and a half. Let me
give it to you and and just give us more information.
I've been reading your book and I'm absolutely loving it
because it makes me think more than anything else. And
you talk about a purity in terms of we have
all got to be civil libertarians, especially with spies and

(01:00:31):
campaigns and lying de FISA court judges. That really worries me.
I think that's right, and I think that civil liberties
today may be used to protect the President Trump. Tomorrow,
they're going to be used to protect the democratic president
and the rest of us. And that's what I'm so
concerned about, the civil liberties of President Trump and the
constitutional rights, because if you can take away the constitutional

(01:00:51):
rights of the president, you can take away the constitutional
rights of everybody. And you know, as I've said, if
Hillary Clinton had been elected and the Republicans were trying
to each our locker up I would have written the
same book that just would have had a different title,
would have said the case against impeaching Quinn. You know,
I look at every fact, I look at all the cases.
But I'm trying to be a neutral civil libertarian. I'm
not trying to be a partisan defender of anybody. And

(01:01:13):
I wish more Democrats and more Republicans would approach these
problems in a neutral, objective way. We can't criminalize difference.
As Paul Manafort has been convicted of nothing, it's a
two thousand five tax case, and twenty three hours a
day now for a month he's been locked up. That
that is not justice to me. I agree with you,
and Judge Llis agrees with you, and he said yes

(01:01:34):
that you know, he can't strike it down as illegal,
but he was very upset about special Counsel and about
how how putting the screws to him to make him sing,
not only sing, but composed. That opposed to me, sounds
like subordinate subornation of perjury. And so they can impeach
or prosecute Trump. That's their goal. That's scary, that's that's
not America. To me, it's not no. I agree, we

(01:01:55):
have to have neutral standards. The case against impeaching Trump,
Professor Alan Dershowitt, Thank you, And then I speak for everyone,
thank you for everything you've done to protect our nation's
great legal heritage. In keeping with President Reagan's legacy, I
do not ask about a nominee's personal opinions. What matters

(01:02:17):
is not a judge's political views, but whether they can
set aside those views to do what the law and
the Constitution require. I am pleased to say that I
have found, without doubt such a person. Tonight, it is
my honor and privilege to announce that I will nominate

(01:02:39):
Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the United States Supreme charm All right,
that was from last night the President Judge Kavanaugh s
elected to be the next Supreme Court justice. The left,
of course going crazy, and even people Conservatives, Republicans all
that had advocated for other people um are weighing in

(01:03:01):
left and right. We do have a lot of background
about his judicial philosophy, as I have been saying all day,
which really is at the heart of all of this.
Here to weigh in is former Speaker of the House,
author of the best seller Trump's America, The Truth about
Our Nation's great comeback. Um another massive runaway bestseller New

(01:03:21):
King Rich. I want to ask you this. You know,
I actually quoted you last night on the five I
was hosting, and then on on Hannity, And I think that,
you know, if every American before the president spoke, just
imagine that Hillary was about to come out and make
her second choice for the U. S. Supreme Court, how
would we feel? But yet you still get a whining

(01:03:41):
and the complaining, and and there is a natural doubt,
you know, is he really gonna be in the mold
of Alito Scalian Thomas everybody. I think that's a legitimate
fear based on past failures. Sure. Look, I think first
of all, we have so often had our hopes broken
by people like Suitor who turned out to be such
total disasters that it's reasonable to be anxiety. Right. On

(01:04:04):
the other hand, this is a guy who has been
on the court now for twelve years, which, considering these
fifty one shows who there are fifty three rather so
he got on He got on the Appeals Court at
forty one years of age. He has authored three hundred opinions.
Eleven of his descents have been picked up by the
Supreme court who sided with him and overrode the liberal

(01:04:25):
majority on his court. Uh. He is very clearly on
most issues, UH, deeply committed to a constitutional reading of
the law. UH and to being bound by the founding fathers.
And in that sense, he's very much I think like Celia. Uh.
In fact, he was described by a liberal professor who

(01:04:46):
wrote a very positive obed saying that he thought he
should be approved even though this is a pro Clinton,
liberal democrat but who knows in person. Said look, he said,
this is this guy is like Celia, but even better educated.
And he said, you're gonna be very impressed with That's
a that's a hard mountain of climb, because Kalia was
a genius. Um. Yeah. The thing that well, we don't

(01:05:09):
just say that. We were very fortunate close and I
were actually in the White House hatting dinner with Vice
President pens and that watching the introduction, and then we
went to a little reception for the Kavanaugh was including
a chance to talk at linked with his father, who's
a very charming man, uh and who talked about how
how true real a all was that you said, you know,
his wife used to come home and she would but

(01:05:32):
here's here's Uh. Now, Judge kavanaught about eleven or twelve
years of age, and over dinner, she's practicing her closing
argument as as a prosecutor now, uh, to convict some guy.
And it's his job at eleven and twelve years of
age to take a part of arguments. And he said,
that's where his legal training began, was with mom sitting
there at the kitchen table. Uh. And they're just a

(01:05:53):
charming family. And I think, you know, devout Catholics, active
in in coaching his two daughters and men basketball, active
in helping serve food for the poor. I'm gonna will
be fascinating to watch the Left try to demonize him,
because I think he's actually a very decent human being.
You know, it's interesting you say that, because last night

(01:06:15):
I said, oh, by the way, you see that family,
and I put up the family on the screen. I said,
they were about to absolutely smear, slander, and try to
destroy that man and his family. And by the way,
it was happening even as I said it. Uh. With
the in terms of the Democrats and and their reaction,
I'll tell you where I get the most hope in

(01:06:35):
terms of what his judicial philosophy is and we do
have a lot in terms of his background, and you
know he has weighed in on on really important issues
including religious liberty and separation of powers and freedom of
speech and the Second Amendment UM and you rightly point
out raining in the administrative state of Obama. That was

(01:06:57):
another big one America's interest. But where I get the
most hope, Mr. Speaker is when he said, well, what
did Justice Scalia stand for as a judge? This is
back in two thousand and six. He wrote, it's not
He said this in a law review article. He goes,
it's not complicated, but it is profound and worth repeating. Often,
the judges job is to interpret the law, not to

(01:07:17):
make the law or make policy. So read the words
of the statute as written. Read the text of the
Constitution has written, mindful of history and tradition. Don't shy
away from enforcing constitutional rights that are in the text
of the Constitution. Changing the constitution is for the amendment process.
Changing policy within constitutional bounds is for the legislatures. And

(01:07:42):
remember that the structure structure of the Constitution, separation of powers,
federalism are not mere matters of etiquette or architecture. What
are at least as essential to protecting individual liberty as
the individual rights guaranteed in the text. And remember the
courts have a critical role when a party has standing

(01:08:02):
and enforcing those separation of powers and federalism limits. Simple
but profound. And he said more on that, and that
is the judicial philosophy I would be looking for, you know,
Larry aren the the President. Hillsdale said to me last night,
we don't emphasize often enough that the only document directly

(01:08:22):
voted on by the American people was the Constitution, that
it was adopted in popular votes in every single state,
and that it represented the will of the people. And therefore,
when you start to capriciously change it, it's not just
the fifty people who went to Philadelphia and wrote it,
but it's the thousands and thousands of citizens who who

(01:08:43):
knew that they were voting for a contract, that this
was why they were willing to become part of the
United States. And I think that you have with somebody
like Judge Kavanaugh, a person who feels deeply the burden
of history and the burden of America, and the sense
that he is there to continue and to carry on
a tradition, not to destroy it. And replaces. What do

(01:09:06):
you make of the predictable knee jerk reaction of the left.
I mean, you saw the screaming and the yelling, and
the hysteria and the fearmongering. That again, it's all predictable.
But I seem to sense, uh, even a greater level
of hatred and intensity in the in the era of Trump.

(01:09:27):
I mean that may even be higher than what they
did to Robert Bourke or Clarence Thomas. Well, it is,
I think, and it isn't a sense first of all,
that it starts the idea, I know, I hate him.
Who is he? Yeah, exactly. By the way, think whoever
Trump nominates, I'm gonna hate, whether it's a man or
a woman. Just let me know the name, so I'll

(01:09:49):
know who I'm hating. Uh. And you had a lot
of as you and I were kidding yesterday, the wonderful
scene of the students who were asked what they thought
of Trump's now they said, that person's really a racist.
He can tell and he had not in anybody yet.
But they had already been taught. They've been pre programmed,
uh like like badly trained parents to automatically say anti

(01:10:12):
Trump things without any regard for the facts. So, but
here's a sense I had that maybe I'm being too optimistic.
But it's my nature as an American to be an optimist. Um,
it's it's my nature of having all four grandparents from
Ireland not to be one but go ahead, Well, but
they got here, Yeah they did. But I'm just saying it.
In life got better, you're always expecting the worst. Trust me,

(01:10:36):
that's closed as attitude. Don't say things are going well
exactly exactly, don't tempt fate exactly. But there's my point.
I think for average, normal, everyday Americans, they look at
this very pleasant guy with this very nice family. They
look at his very reasonable tone and his reasoned, intelligent articulation,

(01:10:57):
and when they see people screaming on the other side, uh,
it diminishes the impact and the effectiveness of the radically extremists.
And I think that's really what's happening. I want to say,
the most amazing single statement on the left in the
last couple of days was the Democratic with Dick Durban saying, look,
if we have to sacrifice a couple of red state
senators to stop this, uh, then I'm willing to sacrifice

(01:11:21):
from the First of all, if you the whip, you're
not supposed to go around sacrificing your members. No, it's
really a very bad idea. No, I actually think it's
a good idea. I think he's right on that. I
think they should. Um. Look, Nina Totenberg actually said these words,
it's the end of the world as we know it.
I mean, it doesn't. And by the way, she said

(01:11:42):
that before he was selected. By the way, that that's
almost two years late, because actually elections, that's exactly right,
the end of Nina Totenberg's world. But it makes you
a little about the speed with which they learned at
her institution. It took almost an extra year and a half. Um. So,
I guess the question is I mean, I've listened to
Ram Paul. He says he has an open mind. Ted

(01:12:04):
Cruz has an open mind. Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski
I would argue that they're probably the four people that
you've got to pay the most attention to. Um. I
look at this guy's background and record in judicial philosophy.
I'm a trust but verified kind of person. That's just
my nature. Um. I've read everything I could possibly read
about him and his opinions. I didn't like the healthcare opinion.

(01:12:26):
That bothers me because even though Obamacare was sold as
not being attacks, he kind of thread the need a
little bit like John Roberts and made the argument that
if it's attacks, then it's legitimate and actually paved a
way for it to continue. Does that trouble you, well
a little? But I tell when Roberts that it was
just made no sense at all. Although it was a

(01:12:47):
little bit in the tradition of John Marshall, whose sidestepped
Jefferson very cleverly in Madison versus Marbury in a way
that is often misrepresented in law school, that was a
sign of weakness on the court, not strength. Uh. And
I thought I was with Roberts. You had the same
kind of thing that he was playing a game that
made no sense in the long run. Um. But I

(01:13:08):
think having having said that, if you take a guy
who's had three specific uh papers that he's written in
the majority, you have somebody who's had eleven de cents
where the Supreme Court sided with him against the Appeals court,
you have, uh, you know what is now all of

(01:13:28):
these years on the court. Um, that's you know, you've
got to find something somewhere. Um by just thinking, I
mean not nobody's going to be perfect, but he has
got to be in the high nineties in terms of impact.
And frankly, to have somebody at this level of intellectual
caliber arguing our side and being in the room with

(01:13:50):
the other injustices will combine with garsis Is having joined them,
I think we'll move the court substantially towards a more
cons institutional distposition just because of the integrity and the
weight of their their research and their reasoning. So I
think he will be a major step. As the President
said last night, what I thought was, I do think

(01:14:11):
Trump has probably handled this as well as anything in
his presidency so far on the way he consulted and
then his speech last night. Uh and and he was
quite clear about that this is this is about returning
to the Constitution, and I have no doubt that Kevin
All is going to be extraordinarily dedicated to it. That
doesn't mean you and I are always going to agree

(01:14:32):
with his interpretation, but we're always going to know he
did it based on having studied the Constitution. We'll take
a break, we'll have more with New Gingrich on the
other side, and as we continued in Ingrich is with
us his best selling book New York Times bestseller, Trump's America,
The Truth about our Nation's Great Comeback. One of the
things that really stands out to me is I can't
think of, and you're a better historian than I am,

(01:14:55):
of a time that there was a presidential candidate that
actually te cleographed and gave us the names of potential
Supreme Court justices beforehand. And just like Jerusalem is now
the capital of Israel, just like the Iranian deal is dead,
just like the tax cuts were past, and just like
the wall is being built, this president is seems as

(01:15:17):
absolutely committed to keeping promises more than anybody I've seen. Yeah,
I mean, the amazing thing about Trump is that he
on little things, he's just amazingly all over the place,
and you have no way of predicting what he'll do
on big things. He has a steadiness and a consistency
that is absolutely historic, and that is in fact changing history. Uh.

(01:15:39):
And it's a it's it's sort of amazing to see
the same guy have both these sets of characteristics. But
there's there's no question the decision I remember last night,
have beef chance to talk to UH the Attorney General
Jeff Sessions about this, because he was in the room
with Clifton Me and UH a number of other people, UH,

(01:16:01):
including UH Leonard Leo. When we got to the discussion
about having a list, and Trump was paying attention and said, well,
you you really think this would be helpful? All of
us said, look, you know, people need something to get
a grip on how serious you are and how real
you are, and the right kind of list with the

(01:16:21):
right kind of names send a huge signal, which of
course it did. UM. And then Trump has been very
faithful to following through on that. And of course the
job he has done, not just on the Supreme Court,
but you look at what he's done is and my
my newsletter today both at English Productions and at Fox
News dot Com, I talked about how much change he's
made below the Supreme Court. And of course what he's

(01:16:44):
doing is he's building a farm team for the future. UH.
And he is really looking at younger and younger people,
having somebody UM that that is like UM the Kavanaugh
who is in his early fifties. Kavanaugh, he serves UM
as long as Justice Ginsburg will be on the court

(01:17:06):
in two thousand and fifty. Mm hmm, that's amazing. That's amazing.
I mean and and by the way, elections matter. But
I've gotta let you go. Um. Mr Speaker, it's always
a pleasure to have you. I think we have you
on TV tonight. We look forward to seeing you. I'll
be with you there all right, Mr Speaker, thanks for
being with us. By the way, Amazon dot Com bookstores everywhere.
Trump's America, the truth about our nation's great comeback, which

(01:17:28):
the mainstream media ignores, will take a break. We'll come
back a lot more coverage and Ali North as we
continue the Shawn Hannity Show. We had many hours of
productive conversations. Uh. These are complicated issues, but we made
progress on almost all of the central issues. UH. Some places,
it's a great deal of progress. Other places, there's still

(01:17:50):
more work to be done. We now have a meeting
if I'm with John, set up for July twelve, that
could move by one day or two, uh, where there
will be discussions between the folks responsible for the repatriation
and remains will take place at the border, and that
process will begin to develop over the days that follow.
So very productive conversation about the the process by which

(01:18:14):
we will deliver on the commitments that were made in
the Singapore summit. The North Treeans also confirmed the missile
engine testing facility. We talked about what the modalities would
look like for for that destruction of that facility as well,
and so some progress there as well. UH. And then
we have laid out a path for further negotiations at

(01:18:36):
the working level so that the two teams can get
together and continue these discussions. We talked about what the
North Koreans are continuing to do and how it's the
case we can get our arms around achieving what Chairman
Kim and President Trump both agreed to, which was the
complete denuclearization of North Korea. UH. There's no no one
walked away from that. They're still equally committed. Chairman Kim

(01:18:57):
is still committed. Might a chance to speak to presid
the Trump this morning. No, my counterparts book with Chairman Kim.
During the course of our negotiators as well, UH lately
had productive good faith negotiations. Are you any close into
a sense of a timeline or denuclearization and aline declaration
or their movements invest instruction. I'm not going to get

(01:19:18):
into the details of our conversations. But we spent a
good deal of time talking about each of those two things,
and I think we've made progress in every element of
our discussion. The idea of a nuclear showdown with North
Korea keeps you up at night. I would recommend deleting
your Twitter app. He has not merely being cavalier with
a threat about nuclear war. He's being cavalier in a
way that it makes him seem demented. These are the

(01:19:39):
messages from a person who is not well, from a
leader who is not fit for office. President Trump is
goading Kim Jong un to test a nuclear missile again,
to prove its reliability, to show him wrong. And fundamentally,
I think it comes across as two kindergarteners who are
jostling each other, except that each has nuclear weapons. True

(01:20:03):
late after Americans die, after that nuclear holocaust, or after
a million dies, and that's where we are. This is
not an exaggerations. Comments about nuclear weapons have experts worried
he could literally inadvertently trigger a catastrophe. Darmn Kim and
I just signed a joint statement in which he reaffirms
his unwavering commitment to complete de nuclearization of the Korean peninsula.

(01:20:28):
He was very firm, and the fact that he wants
to do this, I think he might want to do
this as much or even more than me, because they
see a very bright future for North Korea. The sanctions
will come off when we are sure that the nukes
are no longer a factor. I noticed that some of
the people are saying that the president has agreed to meet.

(01:20:49):
He has given up so much. I gave up nothing.
I'm here historic day. Let's just I think most people
like me want to know what was going on in
that room one on one. Well, the big thing is,
this is now my twenty fifth hour of being up
and negotiating, and we've been negotiating very hard. This is
about the complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization of the entire peninsula.

(01:21:14):
So without that, we could not have had a deal.
I mean, one thing up, we want to de nuke
the entire peninsula. We want to de nuke that whole situation.
That is a hotbed. And you know what's been happening
for years and nobody did anything about it, and you
have to. We have no choice. We had to. The
relationship was really good, the you know it built and

(01:21:36):
I talked about early on in the relationship and the feeling, well,
we had a very good feel right from the beginning,
and we were able to get something very important done.
And actually something's happened after that was sign shown where
we're getting rid of certain missile research areas, certain missile
testing sites, and they getting rid of a lot. Did
you talk about a trip to the United States? Did

(01:21:59):
you talk about I think at the right time, he'll
be absolutely all right. There you have it. That was
part of my interview with the President in Singapore immediately
after meeting with Kim Jong un, And of course your
media's predictable reaction, and what do we get. We got
American hostages home, we got one missile launch site now
being dismantled. We got talk of d nuclearization, we got

(01:22:23):
the remains of Americans going back to the Korean War
now being returned. And Mike Pompei was saying, don't believe
what you're hearing. That this is going well, but it's
gonna be a step by step process and we certainly
don't have missiles being fired over Japan anymore. We talk
about all of this now through the prison the President
on his way to Brussels with a NATO summer where

(01:22:45):
he's going to demand that they step up and pay
their fair share, that America is not the piggy bank
of the world. And then of course off to London
where we expect protests, just kind of like when Reagan
was president, um, massive protests, and then off to hell
sinking to meet with Putin here to win on all
of this. There was a thing or two about Warren,
a thing or two about foreign policy. Is Colonel Oliver North,

(01:23:06):
how are you, sir? I'm glad to do with your brother.
How are you? I'm good last night, I'm getting in
better shape every day. I'm trying. I'm more. I'm just
trying to do what you do every day. Hey, um,
let's start, let's start. I try. I cannot understand America
didn't drop a hundred and fifty billion dollars on the
lap of Kim Jong un. And we've made all those

(01:23:28):
progress and all the naysayers never thought little rocket man
fasted um fire and fury, uh my buttons bigger than
yours and works would ever get us there. And some
people saying, oh, he's gonna blow up our relationship with NATO,
and why is he meeting with putin your reactions. Well,
let's let's start with we're Secretary Pompeo was first in

(01:23:51):
this trip, and he went straight to point. And now,
of course he's made a bunch of other stops, were
assuring the Japanese and South Koreans, and going by Afghanistan.
Just to mind everybody out there, we still care about
the outcome. Ah, if you look at what's happened in
North Korea, add to your list that their test site
has been destroyed, whether intentionally by or by the earthquake

(01:24:13):
that came first. All of that is gone. And so
in order for him to continue testing nuclear weapons, he's
going to have to rebuild that, and we can certainly
see that from the overhead. What bothers me most about
this whole experience that we've been going through the last
several days is the idea that somebody put out the
word that the North Koreans are still doing bad things

(01:24:35):
now that it's trying to jeopardize the whole process by saying, look,
he's he's going to get away with it. The president's
off in his stance, or the US is having the
wool pulled over our eyes. I think what's really of
concern to me is not that we're having the wool
pulled over our eyes, because that's not going to happen.
This is not Obama, certainly not Clinton. And when you
look at what what's transpired, you somebody inside the U. S.

(01:24:58):
Intelligence Services leaked that information, which I believe first to
put in the Washington Compost, has now been spread all
over the place. And as you've played some of these
cuts from these these talking heads and the idiot that works,
they're a little promulgating the same idea somewhere inside the
Intelligence Services or the State Department. That information came out.

(01:25:19):
Whether it's right or wrong, it's wrong for it to
come out. I don't believe it's correct. I think that
what you've got is an effort to sabotage this whole thing,
just like we've seen with so many of this president's initiatives.
On top of all the other things that you went
through a my adding to it, the destruction of nuclear
test site. The Alanian scientists who were making all this

(01:25:39):
happen with the money that was provided by the United
States under Mr Obama. All of those scientists, except for
a small hintful, have I've seen it come home. They're back,
They've gone back to Tehran. In other words, they're not
benefiting in their nuclear program by paying for the North
Korean testing and research and development. That's a very very

(01:26:00):
positive thing. It also means that things are hurting in
Tehran as a consequence of this. What the Iranians are
gonna do is they're gonna look very carefully at how
we start denuclearizing, the steps that have to be taken,
and they're going to benefit from that because they'll know
better how to hide things. Much bigger country, much less
information that we're getting from there right now than we

(01:26:22):
are from North Korea. How does this relate to NATO?
The NATO nations have been traditionally, not just in the
last five years, not in the last five weeks, because
in the last fifteen years, since the wall came down,
they've been getting away with less and less of a
commitment to the North Atlantic Treaty organization. Poland, Poland has
made more of a commitment than most of the countries

(01:26:44):
have been since way before Poland. If you look at
the Baltic countries, all of them have been under paying
and yet they've reaped the benefits of American ships being
in the area, American troops being in their countries helping
them prepare, and all of that is a major sign
of improve from what we've had. Let me ask you
this because I'm watching the news and all right, so

(01:27:05):
the President should you know, landed already in Belgium for
this whole thing, and he's gonna take one more. He
took a shot at NATO before he left on Twitter
that the American people were not the world's piggy bank.
And that's all true, but we don't mind doing our
part and and helping. And you know, so there's gonna
be protests which we saw during the Reagan years in Europe,

(01:27:27):
which are gonna be big and allowed, and the left
and the media in this country you're gonna go nuts. Um,
I actually view that as American strength. Then you've got
this whole battle going on with Teresa May and her time.
You know, Boris Johnson looks like he's making the move
now that he wants to be Prime minister. So the
President's going into London in the middle of that change.

(01:27:48):
There's there's a bunch of very unhappy members of various
governments around, some of them pretty far left in the
case of Great Britain, pretty far right. In the case
of point in North Korea, when has to remember with
a ken maybe in charge, but it's very likely that
he's got a very powerful poltara proletariat excuse me, uh,

(01:28:10):
the folks that are running the country from inside. They
stand to lose a lot without this nuclear weapons program.
And so if his pollet guro is telling him how
far he can go, he doesn't have full control over
what's happened. And my guess is that some of what
you're seeing experience when with the Secretary of State making
the visit. In the case of the European countries, they

(01:28:33):
have been they've been getting away with, well, not murder,
but with essentially under paying for years on what's been
going on out there. You cannot fix those kinds of
problems overnight. You can't fix the nuclearization overnight. You're not
going to get the Iranians to cooperate overnight. But what
you have to have is a strong nat of that
can save for example, as the savers are being rattled

(01:28:53):
in Tehran, if you close the Straits of Hormuz or
you mind them, that is an act of war, and
that's kind of. I think what NATO is If the
Iranians do that, they're cutting off the lifeblood of the
world's economy, which is oil and energy. It to me
that would be a moment where the Iranians will then
pay the ultimate price. Well it is, That's why I'm

(01:29:14):
saying it's but NATO has to stand up and say
that's an active war open streets. Okay, is the president
going to align NATO? Um it? See it. Look, on
the one hand, they seem to just everything. They're all
reacting to President Trump. This president now is beginning to
show America's strength on the world stage. They don't particularly

(01:29:34):
like it. I think they preferred Barack Obama and his
policy of appeasement. And you know, so they're reacting, but
it's in America's best interest and that's and you know,
one of the things that everybody, you and I have
not forgotten, but too many of our listeners have, the
folks that have been making the decisions for the last
eight years plus because many of them are still in

(01:29:57):
the government. The High States loved it when Barack Obama
ran around the world apologizing for America's strength and power
in our economy. Now that the American economy is booming.
You see things like the Chinese the value of Chinese
currencies dropping like a stone. You see what's happening with Brexit,
and you see Teresa May is getting nervous and nervous

(01:30:19):
meliy said Nickers and or not. And she's got conservative
members of her coalition saying we're walking out because you're
getting too soft on these guys in Brussels, meaning the
European Union. Look at the European Union is made up
of globalists. The people who govern and they think that
they are governing all of Europe really aren't. All they

(01:30:39):
can do is set kinds of policies that were the
very kinds of things that caused brix Brexit to begin with. Right, right,
get go. Why why did the British vote in favor
of Brexit on the referendum because in favor of getting
out of the Europeanian Because it was a massive intrusion
on the sovereignty of the British Isles. That's what it
was all about. They don't believe in sovereign They since

(01:31:00):
that's why we take so much grief about building a
wall to protect our borders. Look at the only other
country that's got a wall that protects the entire country Israel.
Israel is getting yeah, of course it works, and they're
getting beaten all over the place. Where people are advocating BDS,
I mean boycott, divest and sanction. They'd love to be

(01:31:21):
able to do that with us, not the Israelis. I'm
talking about the European Union. I mean, it's the fact
of the matter is this is the most powerful country
on the planet Earth. It needs to be to protect
our freedoms. That's why I'm the president of the n
r A. That's why I'm out trying to raise all
I'm asking for the n r A. It's the same
thing President Trump needs desk for. Just sign up, just

(01:31:42):
one more person if you if you've got an n
r A membership, sign up one more from your family,
your neighbors, your friends, your co workers. Same thing for
they're going after you. And not that you're not used
to it, but yeah, well that's that's that's shocking. Listen,
if I didn't have protesters that the places where I
pier out there, you know, it's all it's happening to

(01:32:08):
other people. It's happened to people like you. Your whole
life and frankly me more often than I ever talked about.
But you know I'd be I feel like I'm failing
in my job if it didn't happen. Alright, my friend,
thank you, semper five, safe home, God bless you, Semprifi,
appreciate you. Quick break up. All right, that's gonna wrap

(01:32:28):
things up for today. We have an amazing Hannity tonight,
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