August 15, 2025 • 28 mins
In this episode, Sean Hannity broadcasts live from Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska, where he discusses the high-stakes meeting between President Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Joined by Ambassador Nathan Sales, they analyze the geopolitical implications of Trump's negotiation strategies and the economic pressures that have brought Putin to the table. With insights into NATO's strengthened position and the impact of sanctions, the conversation underscores the importance of a strong American stance in international relations.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, Thank you Scott Shannon, and thanks to all
of you for being with us. Right down our toll
free telephone number if you want to be a part
of the program, it's eight hundred and ninety four one
sewn if you want to join us. We are in Alaska,
We're in Anchorage. We are at Joint Base Elmendorf Richardson.
If I were to walk me, take me about two
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minutes and fifty bullets to the body, probably starting with
a headshirt.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
If I wanted to walk in the room.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Where the meeting with Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump is ongoing,
there are other cabinet officials there. I know Scott Bessett
was there, and Mark Arrubio was there, Steve Wikoff was there,
Pete Heggs was there.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I didn't get everybody. There was a spray, as they.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Call it, and one when Putin and Trump meant on
the tarmac both landing here at Joint Base Elmendorff, and
then another when they initially sat down the way the
afternoon is going to unfold you. You're not going to
hear a lot on this program about what the outcome
of this is because it's really not until about seven
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thirty eastern. That will get maybe the first indication unless
something bad happens, So we'll be on standby for that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And then I'll have my one on one interview with
President Trump and we're just going to go deep into
you know, what happened. I want him to walk us
through it. But my first questions, I can tell you
what they are. I don't really care. You said you'd
know in two minutes. What did you learn in two minutes?
I want to ask him, you know, what are the
severe consequences? What do you when you negotiate? You say
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it's like chess, you know, explain how you view a
negotiation like a chess game. The flyover was what three
stealth bombers? Well, that was pretty that was pretty cool.
As soon as Putin and him met and shook hands,
they timed it perfectly. I'm sure that was not on
the itinerary. I'm just guessing on that part though. Uh,
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we have tape. There was audio A question from a
reporter that was yelled to Putin before they were rushed out,
was will you agree to stop blowing up civilians? And
why should Trump trust you? We have the question. Obviously
there was no answer. Listen, will you agree to the fire?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Will you commit not telling anywhere to do?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
In?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
President?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Why is your president trust your word?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh my gosh, those people give me a headache. That
was what it was like walking into my hotel with
all the Russians there you uh there yesterday. I mean
they're all in my grill with their phones. I just
said Sureyl answered a couple of questions.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I didn't care.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Because I'm whatever it is, what it is anyway, joining
us now. Ambassador of Nathan Sales, he served in the
first Trump administration as Ambassador at Large for counter Terrorism.
Acting Undersecretary of State. He played a key role in
the maximum pressure campaign against the Ranium regime and its
terror proxies. In twenty twenty two, he was sanctioned by Iran. Well,
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we do have something in common. I had an Iranian
mulla put a fatwah once on my head, and I
got a warning. I got a call from the NYPD
and other law enforcement that the fot whah was real
and that I had to take it seriously. And I
never had more security in my life than at that point.
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I assume you probably had the same thing.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Hey, Sean, great to be back, and it's nice to
know that we're fellow members of the FAPLA club.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, there's a whole interesting side note to all that
that one day when we're together, I'll tell you. All Right,
so high stakes the president going into this. I think
that the President has been very clear in managing everyone's expectations.
This is how he will define success. If in fact,
this meeting goes well, the next phase of this would
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be a three way meeting between Putin and Zolenski. I
think people have to be realistic in how this ultimately
would play out. There's no way that Putin has been
given back all the territory that he has accumulated. But
there are signs that Russia, like Ukraine, is getting war weary,
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running out of soldiers and running out of equipment, and
certainly the sanctions and Donald Trump putting pressure on the
ability of the Russians to sell oil I think played
a big role in bringing him to the table and
getting NATO to pay more than twice what they were
paying and to pay their fair share.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What are your thoughts, sen, I.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Think that's exactly right. Why is Putin prepared to talk now?
He refused for the entirety of the Trump administration and
the Biden administration as well, and I think it's because
of pressure when President Trump said there's going to be
economic consequence.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, what do you mean the entirety of the Trump administration.
He's only been in office. You know, this is eight months.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well that's right, that's right, only eight months.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But during seven months, yeah, yeah, but during those.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Eight months, Trump said, look, we want to talk, we
want to resolve this, we want peace, and Putin gave
him the stiff arm, but he's not doing that anymore.
And I think you put your your finger right on
the button, Sean. It's because Trump threatened to creator the
Russian economy serious economic consequences through sanctions that we got
his attention. And so that helps explain how we got
where we are today. And it also is a roadmap
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for what we'll have to do if Trump takes the
Putin's temperature and we realize he's not actually serious, he's
not prepared to sit down and negotiate in good faith.
We're going to have to turn up the economic heat,
just like we did on the Iranians.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I agree with you as well. All right, So a
couple of very specific things. One, if you look at
the European Union and the trade deal that we made,
there's nearly a trillion dollars in committed monies that they
will spend on American energy, money that we all know
otherwise would have been spent to buy energy, the lifeblood
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of every economy from Vladimir Putin. That I'm certain had
to get Putin's attention. The fifty percent tariff on India
if they continue to buy Russian oil, that had to
get Putin's attention. Supplying the Ukrainians because he's been stubborn
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and unwilling to make a deal, and he's gotten more
grossly aggressive targeting civilians. I think it absolutely was a
sign that, Okay, we're not going to do what Joe
Biden did and buy the weapons for you, but we
will sell you what you need so you can fight
back and fight your war. And there are plenty of
natural resources for the Ukrainians that they would be able
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to have the monies to do so. I think that
caught their attention. Getting NATO to pay more than twice
what they were already committed to paying, I think that
had to be a factor.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Thoughts on all of this One hundred percent Sean.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think Vladimir Putin's approach to geopolitics is the same
as Vladimir Lenins. And Lenin said, we probe with bonets.
If you encounter mush, you push. If you encounter steel,
you withdraw. And I think what Putin has been finding
these past couple of months is that the United States
has made of steel. We have, through diplomacy, encouraged, harangued,
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twisted the arms of our European allies to spend more
on their own defense. And that's an investment not just
in European security, it's an investment in deterrence. Because the
stronger NATO is is on the Eastern Front, the less
likely Putin is going to be to try and try
something against US. So a more prepared, more capable NATO
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alliance is an investment in stability in Europe, which means
that the United States doesn't have to spend so much
time and attention and money policing the continent. The economic
sanctions that you've talked about as well are absolutely critical.
Putin's economy is a house of cards. He's propped it
up these past two and a half years with a
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sugar rush of wartime spending, but that only gets you
so far, and so interest rates are rising, unemployment is rising.
He knows he doesn't have that much play left in
the joints. He's basically greased the system as much as
he can, and it only would take a little bit
more economic pressure from the United States in order for
his economy to face the bad old days of the
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nineteen nineties, where you've got breadlines in Moscow, and at
that point, the war becomes political liability for Putin. That's
what he wants to avoid. We got his attention by
threatening the use of coercive economic state craft, which we
can do thansing their oil, sanctioning their banks, closing the
loopholes that the Biden administration unfortunately left open all these
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months and years. That's why I think Putin is prepared
to talk now. Now, is he prepared to make hard concessions.
We'll see. President Trump said he'll know within two minutes
as to whether or not Gladening Putin is serious about
ending the war. Look forward to seeing the readouts from
the meetings that are happening right now.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, we're not getting a lot of information right now.
What is your take? I think the longer this goes on,
probably the better it is for the long term plan,
strategic plan of the President, which is a second meeting,
and obviously the president. If look, if the President assessed
at this point the Pootin wasn't serious, I think this
thing would be over. I've known Donald Trump for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I know him. If he thinks he's wasting his time,
he's leaving.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, And that wouldn't be great for Putin. Nobody
wants to get on a plane and fly all the
way to Alaska to waste a day. So I think
we'll have a better sense in a couple of hours
what the way forward is. Today is just the first meeting.
If it goes well enough, we could expect to see
future meetings like this. And then we have to ask
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the question, you know, what does success look like? What
is a good outcome for Ukraine and Europe and the
United States? And I think it means, first of all, ceasefire.
You've got to stop the killing. Putin's gotta stop targeting
innocent Ukrainian civilians, hospitals, maternity wards, kindergartens. That's got to stop.
And then thinking long term, we need an arrangement that's
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going to prevent Putin from using a cease fire to
do what he always does, and that's rearm rebuild his
military and prepare it to take yet another shot at Ukraine,
or even worse, if he's emboldened, maybe take some kind
of shot against NATO territory. So deterrence is absolutely the
key to the game, and that means, as you said,
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continuing to sell top of the line American military equipment
to the Ukrainians, not charity. This is going to be
paid for by the Ukrainians or buy our European allies.
And maybe we need to see European boots on the
ground in Ukraine as well. NATO membership is the gold
standard when it comes to deterrence. Probably not going to
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happen in the near future, but at the second best,
it would be great to see European boots on the
ground there on the front lines to deter Russia from
taking another bite at the apple. After this phase of
the conflict ends.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Let's talk about China for just a minute here, because
the President did put a pause on terifs with China.
Why do I suspect that part of that negotiation is
including whether or not China continues to buy Russian oil.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, I think that's a huge part of it. And
let's be clear, China has benefited enormously from Russia's war
in Ukraine because what they have done is by cut
rates Russian energy that they would have to pay a
much larger price for if they got it on the
open market. So China has an interest in Russia winning
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this war, or at least this war prolonging itself for
its own economic reasons. They've been supplying dual use equipment
to the Russian military to enable it to fight more effectively. So,
you know, Putin and Shijin Ting have talked about their
no limits partnership. That's largely rhetoric, but the fact remains.
You know, we have seen China make substantial investments in
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Russian success. And I think you've got to break that axis.
And part of the way you do that is by
threatening to target Chinese imports of Russian energy, break that dependency,
make China look someplace self, make them conclude that the
price of doing business with Russia is simply too high.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, I think that's all a good strategy. It's the
one thing that you have to know, and I know
President Trump knows there's better than anybody going into this
is that the only thing that Russia and Putin will
ever respect his strength. And I think President Trump has
shown strength. President Trump tried to go the nice route.
He did the same thing with Iran. He tried to
be nice. He gave him fifty days or whatever the
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time period was. They wouldn't listen, and he allowed Israel
to do what they needed to do, and then he
followed up and he took out the nuclear sites. At
the end of the day, it's going to be different.
The severe consequences he's talking about here are economic, and
that means the engine of the Russian economy, which is oil,
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will be disrupted and disrupted severely, and there won't be
anything they really can do to stop it because all
the economic might, and my view, is in the hands
of the US percent Sean.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I think it wasn't President Trump's approach to Iran. The
Chinese were watching very closely, and the Russians were watching
very closely, and what they saw was that this man
isn't bluffing. Hey'll play nice with you, He'll give the
plomacy a chance. He'll also set deadlines if you break
the deadlines, and if he promises there's going to be consequences,
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there's going to be consequences. So I think the approach
to the president took with respect to the Iranian nuclear
weapons program showed the rest of the world that when
he says he wants to talk and if you built,
there's consequences, that he was deadly serious. Let's hope that
produces some momentum here in Alaska with Putin realizing that
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the days of his war numbered and it would be
in his own best interest economically to call off the dogs,
accept the ceasefire, and.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Last question, do you agree with me? At the end
of the day, he's going to gain territory. There'll be
a land swap in some regards, and that whether he
he likes it or not, even though it won't be NATO,
there are going to be massive security guarantees for Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Is that how it ends?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I think that's how it ends. Yeah, the details those
are going to be worked out, but it's basically a
land for peace type arrangement where the land that Ukraine
steeps is adequate to defend it against any future Russian aggression.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'm telling people that people are like I don't want
to hear that's going to be the end. I'm just
telling you how it's going to end, not what I wish.
We don't reward people that do this, Ambassador Nathan Sales,
Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Eight hundred ninety four one.
Going to be a part of the program. H right,
we continue Sean Hennery Show. We are at the summit
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with President Trump and Vladimir Putin at Joint Base Elmendorf, Richardson,
beautiful Anchorage, Alaska. And when we come back, we're also
going to get to a lot of your phone calls
coming up in the course of the program today. Eight
hundred ninety four one. Shawn, if you want to join us,
and we did put on Instagram the radio show today,
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I want to check it out. We'll continue at my
interview with President Trump tonight nine eastern on Fox Robert
right here in the great state of Alaska, Robert, what
a beautiful state you have. The people are wonderful, and
even the reindeer tasted okay.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Thank you, so hey, try the beer Baltle halibut before
you leave too. That's the best. But thank you and
President Trump and hopefully President Putin for coming here to
find peace in our world, and especially since we're so
close to Russia, we want to make sure that we're
at peace with Russia.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Well, listen, I understand why.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's actually I think a fifty mile one of the islands,
the Alaskan Islands, I think is fifty feet off the
shore of Russia.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Did you know that? Yes, yes, I'm sorry, fifty fifty miles.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yes, yeah, we're very close.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Fifty feet would be a little too close, not a
little too close for comfort.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, well, we have we still have a lot of
Russians here. We have Russian little pockets and they're very
nice people. And we all get along and I hope,
you know, President Trump and and Putin can get along
and we leave with a nice deal and no more war.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, I don't want you to get your hopes too high.
The deal would be that we go forward and there's
a real, true commitment towards a lasting piece. That's what
that would be the goal of today.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yes, yeah, well we you know, we we we had
the biggest protests I've ever seen here in my thirty
years in Alaska. I'm from the East Coast, Brentwood. You know,
brentwand right Long Island.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, I do, we do.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I don't know what brought you from Brentwood, Long Island
to Anchorage, Alaska.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
The fishing.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And by the way, I want to say thanks to
our local affiliate k E and I for all their help.
AM six fifty. They're amazing.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So we're having the biggest salmon run on. You get
this the Russian River down the highway where it's sunny today.
It's cloudy and Anchorage today, but looks south and you'll
see a blue sky.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Thanks a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Because I'm in a room that's like twenty degrees below
zero right now, freezing. There's no chance I'm falling asleep
on the air today. I can tell you that. Listen,
I'm with you. I it was when I was walking
in my hotel and I mean when I say it's
full of Russians, I'm not joking. It's full of Russians.
And I think I'm the only American in the hotel.
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And so you know, I'm getting the fact that they
knew me. Surprised me number one number two, you know,
asking me, and I'm like, well, what do you want
to kill in a stop?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
How many more Russian soldiers dead? Do you want?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You know, how many more dead women and children do
we have to have here? What to satisfy Plutin's you know,
geopolitical territorial ambitions, no, thank you, And the fact that
President Trump is willing to expend political capital that in
the end wood could potentially benefit everybody. You know, European
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leaders can't do this now. If you really want to
take it to the next, next, next best level, why not?
Why doesn't Europe start on their own? And maybe President
Trump will get the ball rolling to develop better relationships
with Russia. Maybe that would reduce their their contributions that
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are necessary to NATO. You know, there's all sorts of
possibilities if you're open and you really want peace in
your life, and you really you know, there's all sorts
of things. But it takes two to tango. You can't
make people do things they don't want to do. And
there's a certain part of Putin, from my perspective, that
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is just evil. And I don't think he's moved an inch.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I don't think his heart, his soul, his conscience is
moved in the least, you know, if he sees pictures.
He doesn't even probably see them of dead women and children.
I don't think he cares. And it's just not how
he's his mind is configured. So anyway, we can hope.
But that's why pressure matters, when when you go at
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somebody's the heart of a country's economy, which is what
the severe consequences will be. If Putin does not rise
to the occasion and take the opportunity President Trump is
giving him today, then I think that's the inevitable result.
I cannot believe we're going to stay in Alaska. I
can't believe all our friends in Alaska calling in. We
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have Drew in Alaska. Drew, how are you glad you called?
And thanks for listening in Alaska.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Thank you for having me Sean. This is a great
day for Alaska and for the whole world to see
our great state and for President Trump to put this together.
And like I was telling Katie, I was a prop
Democrat at one point until they did their bull crap
against the president and tried to trump up charges against him,
and I was like, no, it's not going to happen.
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And he got the black and brown vote, plus the
white boat vote too, so and I think he's doing
a great job for our for our country of the
United States. And with Putin coming here, he's gonna just,
you know, we won't know what he says, but basically
he's just gonna say it has to stop. And Putin
realizes that it needs to stop because the money's running up,
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and he has countrymen that are saying, hey, it was
fine before, and I can't believe they would tell him that,
but it is Russia. And I'm hoping uh Zolenski will come.
But like I was telling Katie, I don't see Putin
in the Russian giving back any land they wanted that
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they wanted that waterway, and I don't think they're going
to give it back, so that that's not up to us.
That's between Russia and the Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And I just well, the American people that the shift
in attitude I think is so much. It's been very
great because of President Trump's leadership, and that is he's
given Putin every opportunity a lot of time to come
to the table.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
He hasn't. So President Trump then.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Said, okay, well, now we're going to start arming Ukraine,
but we're not going to do it the way Joe
Biden do it, will sell them the weapons, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Putin's taken note of that.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Putin's taken note of a fifty percent tariff if India
buys Russian oil. Putin's taken note of the fact that
the European Union just did a deal nearly a trillion
dollars in committed monies to buy American energy. He's taken
note of that, because that's money right out of his pocket.
What has been funding his war machine is the heart
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and soul of the Russian economy, which is oil and energy, period,
and the sentence. And if they don't have it, or
they don't have enough customers, especially if President Trump can
peel away India and maybe even China, wouldn't surprise me.
We're dealing with talking about Donald Trump here.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Right yep.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
And yeah, John, I just can't say enough that you
you spread the word of the truth. And I just
I'm glad I've listened to you for the last three years.
And yeah, and I watch your TV show and when
I get home from work, I watch it for a
whole hour. And yeah, you had a great show yesterday.
I just wish that I told Katie that I want
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to give you some salmon and some homemade jelly. It's raspberry.
I'm going leaving today to go out in the middle
of Fairbanks to go berry picking, so I'll watch your show.
I have internet.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You know, it's funny when farmers call this program sometimes
and they're even on their tractors, or when people like yourself.
I have a friend of mine that picks blueberries in
upstate New York. And you tell me you're going to
go fishing, and you tell me you're gonna pick raspberries,
and you're gonna tell you're gonna make jelly. And you know,
when I'm having some really crappy days because I'm in
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the public eye, I'm like dreaming of doing you know,
having anonymity and doing just that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It sounds like the most appealing thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And you know, sometimes I questioned myself and in terms
of man, why am I?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Why am I killing myself?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I could be living on a ranch and raising cattle
and doing fishing and doing a little bit of hunting
and making a little bit of jelly.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Kind of sounds cool to me. Those would be the
most politically informed cows in all of the world. Did
you hear what she said?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Those would be the most politically informed cows in the world,
and fish and raspberries, arguing no, but I mean, and
it really does.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I know.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
One of the worst things if you grow up in
suburbia and the only thing you know is to buy
everything at a grocery store, you ask kids, where does
that come from?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Well, you know, people raised the chickens, they raised, you know,
the pigs, they raised the cattle. They they go fishing,
they you know, they do the farming, they do the
harvest thing, they do all the hard work.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
They feed the entire world. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I just admire people that do all these great things.
That's why I'm so obsessed with these shows in Alaska.
I'm obsessed with them. I can't imagine myself though, living
off the grid.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I couldn't. Linda doesn't even know what living off the
grid means me. No, but I admit that. I just
said that. This morning. We have this great driver, Tom Gaffney,
and Tom and Blair and.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I were talking about it and I was like, He's like, oh, yeah,
Sean loves to live off the grid.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And I was like, bro, I didn't even know that.
Actually mental yesterday I thought I met you had like nothing.
But it turns out I was wrong. Turns out you're
wrong again. Oh wait, you want to make you want
to make a rejoinder out.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Of that one though, Drew, Listen, you're very kind. God
bless you, and thank you for your hospitality. I've really
enjoyed my time here in Alaska. I can't believe Alaska
is the fiftieth state I've been to. And I will
tell you I'm coming back, God willing, if God lets
me live long enough, I'm coming back just to have fun.
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Eight ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be
a part of the program, Scott, he's holding down the
fort in my free state of Florida.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What's up, Scott? How are you?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'm good, mister Sean? How are you?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'm good, sir? What's going on?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
I was wondering to get your opinion and your thoughts
on if this doesn't go good today with Trump and
touton if Trump recalls soldiers that aren't out of the
army within six years, that have not been medically discharged
or dishonorably discharged, if he recalls them.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I didn't quite understand the question. Ask me again.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I was just.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Wondering your thoughts and opinions on if this goes sideways
the summit today, if Trump recalls soldiers that haven't been
out of the military within six years to send them
overseas to try to combat what Putin's doing over there
and put feet on.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I don't I don't think those are the severe consequences
at all. You know the Trump doctorn Now I'm going
to ask the President about this tonight because there's a
lot of misunderstanding about the Trump doctrine. The big part
of it is no forever worse. The last thing America
wants or needs is a war with Russia.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We don't need that crap.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And I think what no forever war means is it
doesn't mean isolationism, as some quote so called conservatives are
are describing it to people. You know, because he did
take out Solamani and Beg Daddy dropped the mother of
all bombs in Afghanistan, and he did take out the
Isis Caliphate, and he did take out Iranian nuclear sites.
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That's not isolationism. And here we are in Alaska and
he's trying to make peace in Europe. You know what,
God bless him, and I pray that we are successful here.
We'll know more when I interview President Trump for Fox
Tonight on the Fox News Channel.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Hannday nine Easter. We'll continue
All right, Thank you Scott Shannon, and thanks to all
of you for being with us. Right down our toll
free telephone number if you want to be a part
of the program, it's eight hundred and ninety four one
sewn if you want to join us. We are in Alaska,
We're in Anchorage. We are at Joint Base Elmendorf Richardson.
If I were to walk me, take me about two
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minutes and fifty bullets to the body, probably starting with
a headshirt.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
If I wanted to walk in the room.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Where the meeting with Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump is ongoing,
there are other cabinet officials there. I know Scott Bessett
was there, and Mark Arrubio was there, Steve Wikoff was there,
Pete Heggs was there.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I didn't get everybody. There was a spray, as they.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Call it, and one when Putin and Trump meant on
the tarmac both landing here at Joint Base Elmendorff, and
then another when they initially sat down the way the
afternoon is going to unfold you. You're not going to
hear a lot on this program about what the outcome
of this is because it's really not until about seven
(01:12):
thirty eastern. That will get maybe the first indication unless
something bad happens, So we'll be on standby for that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And then I'll have my one on one interview with
President Trump and we're just going to go deep into
you know, what happened. I want him to walk us
through it. But my first questions, I can tell you
what they are. I don't really care. You said you'd
know in two minutes. What did you learn in two minutes?
I want to ask him, you know, what are the
severe consequences? What do you when you negotiate? You say
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it's like chess, you know, explain how you view a
negotiation like a chess game. The flyover was what three
stealth bombers? Well, that was pretty that was pretty cool.
As soon as Putin and him met and shook hands,
they timed it perfectly. I'm sure that was not on
the itinerary. I'm just guessing on that part though. Uh,
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we have tape. There was audio A question from a
reporter that was yelled to Putin before they were rushed out,
was will you agree to stop blowing up civilians? And
why should Trump trust you? We have the question. Obviously
there was no answer. Listen, will you agree to the fire?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Will you commit not telling anywhere to do?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
In?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
President?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Why is your president trust your word?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh my gosh, those people give me a headache. That
was what it was like walking into my hotel with
all the Russians there you uh there yesterday. I mean
they're all in my grill with their phones. I just
said Sureyl answered a couple of questions.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I didn't care.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Because I'm whatever it is, what it is anyway, joining
us now. Ambassador of Nathan Sales, he served in the
first Trump administration as Ambassador at Large for counter Terrorism.
Acting Undersecretary of State. He played a key role in
the maximum pressure campaign against the Ranium regime and its
terror proxies. In twenty twenty two, he was sanctioned by Iran. Well,
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we do have something in common. I had an Iranian
mulla put a fatwah once on my head, and I
got a warning. I got a call from the NYPD
and other law enforcement that the fot whah was real
and that I had to take it seriously. And I
never had more security in my life than at that point.
(03:43):
I assume you probably had the same thing.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Hey, Sean, great to be back, and it's nice to
know that we're fellow members of the FAPLA club.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, there's a whole interesting side note to all that
that one day when we're together, I'll tell you. All Right,
so high stakes the president going into this. I think
that the President has been very clear in managing everyone's expectations.
This is how he will define success. If in fact,
this meeting goes well, the next phase of this would
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be a three way meeting between Putin and Zolenski. I
think people have to be realistic in how this ultimately
would play out. There's no way that Putin has been
given back all the territory that he has accumulated. But
there are signs that Russia, like Ukraine, is getting war weary,
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running out of soldiers and running out of equipment, and
certainly the sanctions and Donald Trump putting pressure on the
ability of the Russians to sell oil I think played
a big role in bringing him to the table and
getting NATO to pay more than twice what they were
paying and to pay their fair share.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What are your thoughts, sen, I.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Think that's exactly right. Why is Putin prepared to talk now?
He refused for the entirety of the Trump administration and
the Biden administration as well, and I think it's because
of pressure when President Trump said there's going to be
economic consequence.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, what do you mean the entirety of the Trump administration.
He's only been in office. You know, this is eight months.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well that's right, that's right, only eight months.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But during seven months, yeah, yeah, but during those.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Eight months, Trump said, look, we want to talk, we
want to resolve this, we want peace, and Putin gave
him the stiff arm, but he's not doing that anymore.
And I think you put your your finger right on
the button, Sean. It's because Trump threatened to creator the
Russian economy serious economic consequences through sanctions that we got
his attention. And so that helps explain how we got
where we are today. And it also is a roadmap
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for what we'll have to do if Trump takes the
Putin's temperature and we realize he's not actually serious, he's
not prepared to sit down and negotiate in good faith.
We're going to have to turn up the economic heat,
just like we did on the Iranians.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I agree with you as well. All right, So a
couple of very specific things. One, if you look at
the European Union and the trade deal that we made,
there's nearly a trillion dollars in committed monies that they
will spend on American energy, money that we all know
otherwise would have been spent to buy energy, the lifeblood
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of every economy from Vladimir Putin. That I'm certain had
to get Putin's attention. The fifty percent tariff on India
if they continue to buy Russian oil, that had to
get Putin's attention. Supplying the Ukrainians because he's been stubborn
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and unwilling to make a deal, and he's gotten more
grossly aggressive targeting civilians. I think it absolutely was a
sign that, Okay, we're not going to do what Joe
Biden did and buy the weapons for you, but we
will sell you what you need so you can fight
back and fight your war. And there are plenty of
natural resources for the Ukrainians that they would be able
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to have the monies to do so. I think that
caught their attention. Getting NATO to pay more than twice
what they were already committed to paying, I think that
had to be a factor.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Thoughts on all of this One hundred percent Sean.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think Vladimir Putin's approach to geopolitics is the same
as Vladimir Lenins. And Lenin said, we probe with bonets.
If you encounter mush, you push. If you encounter steel,
you withdraw. And I think what Putin has been finding
these past couple of months is that the United States
has made of steel. We have, through diplomacy, encouraged, harangued,
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twisted the arms of our European allies to spend more
on their own defense. And that's an investment not just
in European security, it's an investment in deterrence. Because the
stronger NATO is is on the Eastern Front, the less
likely Putin is going to be to try and try
something against US. So a more prepared, more capable NATO
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alliance is an investment in stability in Europe, which means
that the United States doesn't have to spend so much
time and attention and money policing the continent. The economic
sanctions that you've talked about as well are absolutely critical.
Putin's economy is a house of cards. He's propped it
up these past two and a half years with a
(08:31):
sugar rush of wartime spending, but that only gets you
so far, and so interest rates are rising, unemployment is rising.
He knows he doesn't have that much play left in
the joints. He's basically greased the system as much as
he can, and it only would take a little bit
more economic pressure from the United States in order for
his economy to face the bad old days of the
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nineteen nineties, where you've got breadlines in Moscow, and at
that point, the war becomes political liability for Putin. That's
what he wants to avoid. We got his attention by
threatening the use of coercive economic state craft, which we
can do thansing their oil, sanctioning their banks, closing the
loopholes that the Biden administration unfortunately left open all these
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months and years. That's why I think Putin is prepared
to talk now. Now, is he prepared to make hard concessions.
We'll see. President Trump said he'll know within two minutes
as to whether or not Gladening Putin is serious about
ending the war. Look forward to seeing the readouts from
the meetings that are happening right now.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, we're not getting a lot of information right now.
What is your take? I think the longer this goes on,
probably the better it is for the long term plan,
strategic plan of the President, which is a second meeting,
and obviously the president. If look, if the President assessed
at this point the Pootin wasn't serious, I think this
thing would be over. I've known Donald Trump for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I know him. If he thinks he's wasting his time,
he's leaving.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, And that wouldn't be great for Putin. Nobody
wants to get on a plane and fly all the
way to Alaska to waste a day. So I think
we'll have a better sense in a couple of hours
what the way forward is. Today is just the first meeting.
If it goes well enough, we could expect to see
future meetings like this. And then we have to ask
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the question, you know, what does success look like? What
is a good outcome for Ukraine and Europe and the
United States? And I think it means, first of all, ceasefire.
You've got to stop the killing. Putin's gotta stop targeting
innocent Ukrainian civilians, hospitals, maternity wards, kindergartens. That's got to stop.
And then thinking long term, we need an arrangement that's
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going to prevent Putin from using a cease fire to
do what he always does, and that's rearm rebuild his
military and prepare it to take yet another shot at Ukraine,
or even worse, if he's emboldened, maybe take some kind
of shot against NATO territory. So deterrence is absolutely the
key to the game, and that means, as you said,
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continuing to sell top of the line American military equipment
to the Ukrainians, not charity. This is going to be
paid for by the Ukrainians or buy our European allies.
And maybe we need to see European boots on the
ground in Ukraine as well. NATO membership is the gold
standard when it comes to deterrence. Probably not going to
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happen in the near future, but at the second best,
it would be great to see European boots on the
ground there on the front lines to deter Russia from
taking another bite at the apple. After this phase of
the conflict ends.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Let's talk about China for just a minute here, because
the President did put a pause on terifs with China.
Why do I suspect that part of that negotiation is
including whether or not China continues to buy Russian oil.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, I think that's a huge part of it. And
let's be clear, China has benefited enormously from Russia's war
in Ukraine because what they have done is by cut
rates Russian energy that they would have to pay a
much larger price for if they got it on the
open market. So China has an interest in Russia winning
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this war, or at least this war prolonging itself for
its own economic reasons. They've been supplying dual use equipment
to the Russian military to enable it to fight more effectively. So,
you know, Putin and Shijin Ting have talked about their
no limits partnership. That's largely rhetoric, but the fact remains.
You know, we have seen China make substantial investments in
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Russian success. And I think you've got to break that axis.
And part of the way you do that is by
threatening to target Chinese imports of Russian energy, break that dependency,
make China look someplace self, make them conclude that the
price of doing business with Russia is simply too high.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, I think that's all a good strategy. It's the
one thing that you have to know, and I know
President Trump knows there's better than anybody going into this
is that the only thing that Russia and Putin will
ever respect his strength. And I think President Trump has
shown strength. President Trump tried to go the nice route.
He did the same thing with Iran. He tried to
be nice. He gave him fifty days or whatever the
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time period was. They wouldn't listen, and he allowed Israel
to do what they needed to do, and then he
followed up and he took out the nuclear sites. At
the end of the day, it's going to be different.
The severe consequences he's talking about here are economic, and
that means the engine of the Russian economy, which is oil,
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will be disrupted and disrupted severely, and there won't be
anything they really can do to stop it because all
the economic might, and my view, is in the hands
of the US percent Sean.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I think it wasn't President Trump's approach to Iran. The
Chinese were watching very closely, and the Russians were watching
very closely, and what they saw was that this man
isn't bluffing. Hey'll play nice with you, He'll give the
plomacy a chance. He'll also set deadlines if you break
the deadlines, and if he promises there's going to be consequences,
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there's going to be consequences. So I think the approach
to the president took with respect to the Iranian nuclear
weapons program showed the rest of the world that when
he says he wants to talk and if you built,
there's consequences, that he was deadly serious. Let's hope that
produces some momentum here in Alaska with Putin realizing that
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the days of his war numbered and it would be
in his own best interest economically to call off the dogs,
accept the ceasefire, and.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Last question, do you agree with me? At the end
of the day, he's going to gain territory. There'll be
a land swap in some regards, and that whether he
he likes it or not, even though it won't be NATO,
there are going to be massive security guarantees for Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Is that how it ends?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I think that's how it ends. Yeah, the details those
are going to be worked out, but it's basically a
land for peace type arrangement where the land that Ukraine
steeps is adequate to defend it against any future Russian aggression.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'm telling people that people are like I don't want
to hear that's going to be the end. I'm just
telling you how it's going to end, not what I wish.
We don't reward people that do this, Ambassador Nathan Sales,
Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Eight hundred ninety four one.
Going to be a part of the program. H right,
we continue Sean Hennery Show. We are at the summit
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with President Trump and Vladimir Putin at Joint Base Elmendorf, Richardson,
beautiful Anchorage, Alaska. And when we come back, we're also
going to get to a lot of your phone calls
coming up in the course of the program today. Eight
hundred ninety four one. Shawn, if you want to join us,
and we did put on Instagram the radio show today,
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I want to check it out. We'll continue at my
interview with President Trump tonight nine eastern on Fox Robert
right here in the great state of Alaska, Robert, what
a beautiful state you have. The people are wonderful, and
even the reindeer tasted okay.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Thank you, so hey, try the beer Baltle halibut before
you leave too. That's the best. But thank you and
President Trump and hopefully President Putin for coming here to
find peace in our world, and especially since we're so
close to Russia, we want to make sure that we're
at peace with Russia.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Well, listen, I understand why.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's actually I think a fifty mile one of the islands,
the Alaskan Islands, I think is fifty feet off the
shore of Russia.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Did you know that? Yes, yes, I'm sorry, fifty fifty miles.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yes, yeah, we're very close.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Fifty feet would be a little too close, not a
little too close for comfort.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, well, we have we still have a lot of
Russians here. We have Russian little pockets and they're very
nice people. And we all get along and I hope,
you know, President Trump and and Putin can get along
and we leave with a nice deal and no more war.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, I don't want you to get your hopes too high.
The deal would be that we go forward and there's
a real, true commitment towards a lasting piece. That's what
that would be the goal of today.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yes, yeah, well we you know, we we we had
the biggest protests I've ever seen here in my thirty
years in Alaska. I'm from the East Coast, Brentwood. You know,
brentwand right Long Island.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, I do, we do.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I don't know what brought you from Brentwood, Long Island
to Anchorage, Alaska.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
The fishing.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And by the way, I want to say thanks to
our local affiliate k E and I for all their help.
AM six fifty. They're amazing.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So we're having the biggest salmon run on. You get
this the Russian River down the highway where it's sunny today.
It's cloudy and Anchorage today, but looks south and you'll
see a blue sky.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Thanks a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Because I'm in a room that's like twenty degrees below
zero right now, freezing. There's no chance I'm falling asleep
on the air today. I can tell you that. Listen,
I'm with you. I it was when I was walking
in my hotel and I mean when I say it's
full of Russians, I'm not joking. It's full of Russians.
And I think I'm the only American in the hotel.
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And so you know, I'm getting the fact that they
knew me. Surprised me number one number two, you know,
asking me, and I'm like, well, what do you want
to kill in a stop?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
How many more Russian soldiers dead? Do you want?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You know, how many more dead women and children do
we have to have here? What to satisfy Plutin's you know,
geopolitical territorial ambitions, no, thank you, And the fact that
President Trump is willing to expend political capital that in
the end wood could potentially benefit everybody. You know, European
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leaders can't do this now. If you really want to
take it to the next, next, next best level, why not?
Why doesn't Europe start on their own? And maybe President
Trump will get the ball rolling to develop better relationships
with Russia. Maybe that would reduce their their contributions that
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are necessary to NATO. You know, there's all sorts of
possibilities if you're open and you really want peace in
your life, and you really you know, there's all sorts
of things. But it takes two to tango. You can't
make people do things they don't want to do. And
there's a certain part of Putin, from my perspective, that
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is just evil. And I don't think he's moved an inch.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I don't think his heart, his soul, his conscience is
moved in the least, you know, if he sees pictures.
He doesn't even probably see them of dead women and children.
I don't think he cares. And it's just not how
he's his mind is configured. So anyway, we can hope.
But that's why pressure matters, when when you go at
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somebody's the heart of a country's economy, which is what
the severe consequences will be. If Putin does not rise
to the occasion and take the opportunity President Trump is
giving him today, then I think that's the inevitable result.
I cannot believe we're going to stay in Alaska. I
can't believe all our friends in Alaska calling in. We
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have Drew in Alaska. Drew, how are you glad you called?
And thanks for listening in Alaska.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Thank you for having me Sean. This is a great
day for Alaska and for the whole world to see
our great state and for President Trump to put this together.
And like I was telling Katie, I was a prop
Democrat at one point until they did their bull crap
against the president and tried to trump up charges against him,
and I was like, no, it's not going to happen.
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And he got the black and brown vote, plus the
white boat vote too, so and I think he's doing
a great job for our for our country of the
United States. And with Putin coming here, he's gonna just,
you know, we won't know what he says, but basically
he's just gonna say it has to stop. And Putin
realizes that it needs to stop because the money's running up,
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and he has countrymen that are saying, hey, it was
fine before, and I can't believe they would tell him that,
but it is Russia. And I'm hoping uh Zolenski will come.
But like I was telling Katie, I don't see Putin
in the Russian giving back any land they wanted that
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they wanted that waterway, and I don't think they're going
to give it back, so that that's not up to us.
That's between Russia and the Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And I just well, the American people that the shift
in attitude I think is so much. It's been very
great because of President Trump's leadership, and that is he's
given Putin every opportunity a lot of time to come
to the table.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
He hasn't. So President Trump then.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Said, okay, well, now we're going to start arming Ukraine,
but we're not going to do it the way Joe
Biden do it, will sell them the weapons, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Putin's taken note of that.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Putin's taken note of a fifty percent tariff if India
buys Russian oil. Putin's taken note of the fact that
the European Union just did a deal nearly a trillion
dollars in committed monies to buy American energy. He's taken
note of that, because that's money right out of his pocket.
What has been funding his war machine is the heart
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and soul of the Russian economy, which is oil and energy, period,
and the sentence. And if they don't have it, or
they don't have enough customers, especially if President Trump can
peel away India and maybe even China, wouldn't surprise me.
We're dealing with talking about Donald Trump here.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Right yep.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
And yeah, John, I just can't say enough that you
you spread the word of the truth. And I just
I'm glad I've listened to you for the last three years.
And yeah, and I watch your TV show and when
I get home from work, I watch it for a
whole hour. And yeah, you had a great show yesterday.
I just wish that I told Katie that I want
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to give you some salmon and some homemade jelly. It's raspberry.
I'm going leaving today to go out in the middle
of Fairbanks to go berry picking, so I'll watch your show.
I have internet.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You know, it's funny when farmers call this program sometimes
and they're even on their tractors, or when people like yourself.
I have a friend of mine that picks blueberries in
upstate New York. And you tell me you're going to
go fishing, and you tell me you're gonna pick raspberries,
and you're gonna tell you're gonna make jelly. And you know,
when I'm having some really crappy days because I'm in
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the public eye, I'm like dreaming of doing you know,
having anonymity and doing just that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It sounds like the most appealing thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And you know, sometimes I questioned myself and in terms
of man, why am I?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Why am I killing myself?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I could be living on a ranch and raising cattle
and doing fishing and doing a little bit of hunting
and making a little bit of jelly.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Kind of sounds cool to me. Those would be the
most politically informed cows in all of the world. Did
you hear what she said?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Those would be the most politically informed cows in the world,
and fish and raspberries, arguing no, but I mean, and
it really does.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I know.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
One of the worst things if you grow up in
suburbia and the only thing you know is to buy
everything at a grocery store, you ask kids, where does
that come from?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Well, you know, people raised the chickens, they raised, you know,
the pigs, they raised the cattle. They they go fishing,
they you know, they do the farming, they do the
harvest thing, they do all the hard work.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
They feed the entire world. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I just admire people that do all these great things.
That's why I'm so obsessed with these shows in Alaska.
I'm obsessed with them. I can't imagine myself though, living
off the grid.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I couldn't. Linda doesn't even know what living off the
grid means me. No, but I admit that. I just
said that. This morning. We have this great driver, Tom Gaffney,
and Tom and Blair and.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I were talking about it and I was like, He's like, oh, yeah,
Sean loves to live off the grid.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And I was like, bro, I didn't even know that.
Actually mental yesterday I thought I met you had like nothing.
But it turns out I was wrong. Turns out you're
wrong again. Oh wait, you want to make you want
to make a rejoinder out.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Of that one though, Drew, Listen, you're very kind. God
bless you, and thank you for your hospitality. I've really
enjoyed my time here in Alaska. I can't believe Alaska
is the fiftieth state I've been to. And I will
tell you I'm coming back, God willing, if God lets
me live long enough, I'm coming back just to have fun.
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Eight ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be
a part of the program, Scott, he's holding down the
fort in my free state of Florida.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What's up, Scott? How are you?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'm good, mister Sean? How are you?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'm good, sir? What's going on?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
I was wondering to get your opinion and your thoughts
on if this doesn't go good today with Trump and
touton if Trump recalls soldiers that aren't out of the
army within six years, that have not been medically discharged
or dishonorably discharged, if he recalls them.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I didn't quite understand the question. Ask me again.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I was just.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Wondering your thoughts and opinions on if this goes sideways
the summit today, if Trump recalls soldiers that haven't been
out of the military within six years to send them
overseas to try to combat what Putin's doing over there
and put feet on.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I don't I don't think those are the severe consequences
at all. You know the Trump doctorn Now I'm going
to ask the President about this tonight because there's a
lot of misunderstanding about the Trump doctrine. The big part
of it is no forever worse. The last thing America
wants or needs is a war with Russia.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We don't need that crap.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And I think what no forever war means is it
doesn't mean isolationism, as some quote so called conservatives are
are describing it to people. You know, because he did
take out Solamani and Beg Daddy dropped the mother of
all bombs in Afghanistan, and he did take out the
Isis Caliphate, and he did take out Iranian nuclear sites.
(28:04):
That's not isolationism. And here we are in Alaska and
he's trying to make peace in Europe. You know what,
God bless him, and I pray that we are successful here.
We'll know more when I interview President Trump for Fox
Tonight on the Fox News Channel.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Hannday nine Easter. We'll continue
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