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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best a billion Lisa in the Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey guys, good morning, Happy Saturday, Happy day after fourth
of July. I'm sure people are recovering from their hot
dog hangover.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So while you take it slow this.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Morning, I am going to count down the top five
moments of the week. It's produced a riley from Billy
and Lisa in the Morning. And you know, something that
we love to do is take talkbacks from people, especially
when they spark our topic time it's number five.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
In Morning, could you please do a segment on engagement
party gifts? What is the protocol? These young people have
parties for everything, and I just wanted to see what
the listeners thought the protocol was.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
But engagement party gifts.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Thank you well, Lisa Donovan, you are the princess of protocol.
So what's the deal on engagement gifts?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
All right? So that talkbacker was right.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
There are several parties associated with weddings, from the bait,
from the wedding shower, to the bachelorette party, to the
engagement party to the wedding. So I've been invited to
a lot of those, like for different weddings. So usually
for the shower you're doing something that they registered for.
I would say, give money. I've always given money at
(01:19):
an engagement party.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Okay, cash, no, well or right, you can't go wrong
with gift cards.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
I just think engagement party, that's a safe bet. But
I have to say sometimes people are not invited to
the shower, but they are invited to the engagement party.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
But I don't think some engage parties are more just
to celebrate the engagement, because sometimes they do the night
of right, like they like, if they know it's a
sure thing, they'll plan it and then right after everyone
will go and meet and that's kind of the engagement party.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I guess.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
I think it's a lot to ask someone to give
the engagement to pay for the bachelorette party, for going
dle shower, and then the actual wedding because bridle shower
and wedding are automatically giving gifts.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Okay, so if you're invited to all of them, you
could probably skip getting them something for the engagement party.
But if you're not invited to the shower and you're
invited to the engagement party, because this is a thing,
A lot of times engagement parties, the parents' friends are
invited to the engagement party, and that's their opportunity to
give something. They may not be invited to the shower,
but they will be invited to the wedding.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
The bridal showers still exist.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, they absolutely do.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
I just went to one a few weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
But they're not They're not opening up gifts anymore at
the at these bridal showers, which is a good thing
because I always thought that was.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Time.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I actually sent the gift to their house so they
are assured to Like Amazon and I they I got
the invitation in March and right away went on well
and I sent right to her in their house.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
Yeah, that's the new way. I feel like, you don't
actually bring the physical gifts.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
No, you don't just get it sent.
Speaker 9 (02:55):
It sounds like a lot to me. But I think
we I think we had all three and really gifts
at all three.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh yeah, that lucky you.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
But yeah, but did you have like a destination bachelor
party and a destination bachelorette now party that do.
Speaker 8 (03:07):
We do that?
Speaker 9 (03:07):
I went to New York for my bachelor party, but
it wasn't a huge thing. It was just a couple
of my friends. We had a bridle shower. We gave
a party, and we had a wedding. People went to
all three, and I think we got gifts at all three.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's a lot to add.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
I mean, I'm in that era where everyone's getting married
and all that stuff, and I just I'm so glad
I don't have a lot of good friends.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
But think of it this, what if you had all
those right, you had all those parties, but you also
had a destination bachelor party, destination bachelorette party, destination wedding. Yeah,
think about how much that costs everybody.
Speaker 9 (03:37):
You were telling me before the show this morning. So
your best friend, Dukie's daughter who we had on the
show because she was invited to so many weddings. Yes,
still getting invited to crazy amount of weddings.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Right, she just came home from Montana for a bachelorette
party and now she's going to be in yet another wedding.
Like she's been in more weddings than anyone I've ever known.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
She could put to downpayment on a house for the
Amoy easily. On weddings. She has to start saying, no, it's.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
Too much, Yeah, it's too much.
Speaker 10 (04:07):
Good morning.
Speaker 11 (04:08):
On the topic of gifts for engagement parties, I've only
been to.
Speaker 10 (04:12):
One, I think in my entire life.
Speaker 12 (04:15):
But I've been took plenty of brad shows, of.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Plenty of weddings, and you will not be receiving three
gifts for me. So invite me to one, invite me
to two, but do not invite me to three.
Speaker 12 (04:26):
If you're expecting gifts at all three.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's true, pick pick, and choose where you're going to
do your gift.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
I'd rather just not be invited. Well, and if they're
close enough to you, you send them a nice gift,
but you don't have to go.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Well, if they're close enough to you, you need to go
like okay. For instance, one of my really close friends
to getting married on a boat in August, and I
do not want it.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I love her death.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
I do not want I want an Irish exit. She
knows this about me. I don't want to have to
stay the whole time. You're on a boat, you cannot leave,
and I'm expected to be there.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I will be there.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
I love her death, but I am a little like,
oh my god, girl, we're on a boat for four hours.
I can't get off unless I jump off. It's one
of those city cruises or yeah of Boston, harbor, and.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
But it'll be fun, I know.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
But it's just like I think it's tough though that
type of wedding because you've got inviting people that have
young kids. Sometimes they do have to leave early because
there's like a babysitter issue.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You know, you're kind of stock.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
You're all trapped on this boat for four hours from
six to ten.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
Are there going to be kids on the boat.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
She does have a couple of nieces. I'm assuming they'll
be at the wedding. I don't know about her fiance's side,
so I think there will be some children there. But
all I know is that like I was trying to
go after like cake, like I wasn't going to try
to stay till the last.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Dance, and I will beat.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I'm on the boat.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You're fully committed.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
You know I love you, But I'm having a vision
of you falling overboard. I want to tell you that
I wouldn't laugh. Honestly, I might jump off some time.
I would probably laugh, but then dive in the thank you.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
So this is a wedding.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's a wedding.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Yes, yeah, that's what I went to her her shower
a few weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
So you're getting a gift for the wedding.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Of course, I already said I'm going to probably give
like two two fifty in cash.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I figured.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
So if you're invited to the shower, the engagement party,
and the wedding.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, give gifts twice.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Twice shower and then either engagement party or wedding.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Yeah, so what about one of the three?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Well, the thing is, guys get away.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
If the guy's a friend, they get away with the
wife or whoever they're plus one is not going to
the bridle shower sometime. Then they only get to the
wedding because guys don't have like a shower. So what
females are the ones spending the money to do.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
They'll get the dresses, haar and makeup.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, So what's an acceptable gift for an engagement party?
I think that was the original question, right, what is
the acceptable amount?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I think you give what you can give.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
I again, you do not want to put yourself, you know,
out like in you know, put yourself out financially, so
you know.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Just know they'll talk about you afterwards. My presence, there
is the gift. Okay, it's not much of a gift.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Give what you can give.
Speaker 13 (07:09):
Yeah, good morning, guys, especially Billy.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Listen.
Speaker 13 (07:12):
I don't know if it's Monday or because I'm all
hot and bosited or whatever, but listen, there's way too
many parties, bridal showers now where guys have to go,
wedding whatever. Listen, if you send me an engagement invitation,
this is what I'm getting you. I'm getting you and
I'm not coming to your freaking engagement party.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Heyo, Hey, guys, it's producer Riley from Billy and Lisa
in the Morning cutting down the top five moments of
the week with you. Number four is the answer to
the question do you bring a gift to an engagement party.
We gave our thoughts and then we went to the phones.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
We Linda, good morning, your thoughts.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
Good morning. Well, my daughter just got engaged and it's
kind of put a little damper on her plans because
she's been to eighteen weddings in two years, and she's
invited to seven more, and she has been in the
wedding party eleven so all those expenses that you've been
(08:07):
talking about. But Whinnie, I agree with you for sure.
She's got so many friends it's okay to say no
to some of these, But now she wants to have
a small wedding because she's seen everything you can imagine
in weddings, and I don't know, I just feel like
it's kind of put a damper. But in the engagement
party realm, she's I just talked to her and she said,
(08:30):
she's they don't do any any gifts, any money or
anything for engagement because there's so many of that era
now that's getting married and they're all friends. So anyway,
eighteen weddings in two years, you needless to say, how.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Does your daughter have so many friends?
Speaker 10 (08:47):
I have to just tell you one more thing. They're
buying a house, so the amount of money that we're
helping them out has just increased. So I told her,
no more money, stop going to weddings. It's enough already.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
How does she have so many friends?
Speaker 10 (09:03):
She went to a school, she played she played a
sport in school, and it was at a high level
Division one school and there was just so many friends.
And her fiance also played a Division one sport also,
and so between the two of them, I mean, they
have so many friends. I lovely kids, but you know,
(09:26):
dead the destination. The destination. Bachelorette parties are the things
that are.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Oh god, I was going to say, of all the
eighteen weddings, how many were destination weddings and or bachelorette parties.
Speaker 10 (09:38):
No weddings, but the bachelorette party She's been to everywhere, Arizona, Tennessee,
they went to Florida. They just came back from Puerto
Rico two weeks ago on one of them, and we're
literally coming back from Maine right now on another shower.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
How much did she spend last year on weddings? Do
you think?
Speaker 10 (09:58):
So? Of course, you know they're they're pretty closed mouth
about it. But I know how many wedding parties she's
been in, So I'm gonna guess sixty seventy thousand dollars
on easy easy, easy easy. I know the one that
for Puerto Rico it was five thousand dollars. The one
that they went to Tennessee, it was four thousand dollars
(10:21):
because you got to pay for the airfare and the
hotels and everything that you do at the shower. The
bridal party, you know, pitches in like obviously the bride
doesn't say for any of.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That crazy, that's insane.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Puerto Rico was a bachelorette party, yes, you know, you
have no ideas.
Speaker 10 (10:40):
One was in the Caribbean, one was in this Sonoma valley.
They went to Sonoma and had a wine country to experience.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What did she do for a living?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, that's the Was she like a lawyer or a
doctor or what does she do?
Speaker 10 (10:53):
She's a nurse and her husband is just they just
started out in finances, a big finance to come.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Well, maybe they have the money, but they need boundaries.
I think they need a little boundaries.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
Start saying, don't you think if they say no to
some friends then and yes to others, they fall into
that situation where you know, you upset some people. You're
saying yes one person, no to another.
Speaker 10 (11:16):
Yes, and she's and they're all like really super close
knit friends. But she wants to have a small wedding.
And I says, well, you know what you need to
at least put all of those people that you spent
all this money for on your list to make sure
they come so you can recoup a little bit. But
you know that's me.
Speaker 8 (11:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Justin my thought is you want to disappoint some of
them and then you don't have to go.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
You can't convince me that there's eleven people that I
should be in their wedding because like, I'm not close
with them. She can't convince me. Eleventh a lot that
she was in, and then she invited to another four
like twenty five. So she has twenty five weddings and
now the twenty five eleven she was in them. I'm
when I'm close.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Guys sixty or seventy grand, yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
And these are all friends, right, and yet they're trying
to one up each other.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
Yeah, like, oh no, can do this.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
You're my friend. I'm not going to ask you to
spend five grand on my party.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I think I only have like three friends.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah no, I literally am like, I thank god, I
only have like three friends.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
It's so funny because if you go down the road,
most of the people that go to your wedding you're
not going to be friends with in twenty years.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah twenty you know them the next year.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
Yeah yeah, I don't even remember who was at my wedding.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah yeah, crazy, Good morning morning crew.
Speaker 12 (12:23):
So for a gift to every party I'm invited to,
which it's many, is I give the gift of myself
on this my crazy party.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Self, because I bring the phone, I love that a
wedding gift. Well she should, but.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Still, you know, I say give nothing and make sure
you drink more than anybody else, eat more than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Hey, guys, welcome back to the Top five moments of
the week. I'm producer Riley from Billy and Lisa in
the Morning, and I'll be counting them down for you.
There have been some huge releases in the movie world lately.
We have the f one movie, Superman is coming out.
Jurassic World came out this week. We had to get
Marked the Movie Nerd on to break it all down
for us. It's number three.
Speaker 14 (13:06):
Let's all go to.
Speaker 10 (13:07):
The love that's.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Mark the Movie Nerd. Good morning, Good morning, guys.
Speaker 14 (13:18):
How are you.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
We're doing fine? Right at the top.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
We got to tell you we've been playing the Mega
match game and one of the biggest prizes is Showcase
Movies for a year. How's that for a deal.
Speaker 14 (13:30):
Oh Man, Showcase subscribe? Is that what it is? You're
given away?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
We're giving it all away, Yeah, give it away the
whole store.
Speaker 14 (13:39):
It's like, you know what, it's a good it's a
good year for this, you know. And Billy, you just you.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Lead with it.
Speaker 14 (13:45):
It's like F one again.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
So everyone's talking about.
Speaker 14 (13:49):
It and you know, you got to see it on
the biggest screen, Brad Pitt. And then it's directed by
Joseph Kazinski, who did Top Gun Maverick a few years ago.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Well, Lisa Dunovan was in the show theater for it.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
I was a legacy placed on Saturday night, And you're right.
I was so glad I saw it in the theater
because the sound of the cars, the soundtrack, you have
to see it with your sound system and.
Speaker 14 (14:17):
Them and the rumbling and did you feel like you're there? Yeah,
it's incredible. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's gonna do great this weekend.
But then, yeah, Bill, you said, Jurassic that opens today,
and uh yeah, I mean the word on this one
is it's like the original movies. You know, it's got
that terror, you know, and suspense in it. And Scarlet
(14:39):
Johansen has wanted to be in a Jurassic World movie
or Park movie for a very long time, so now
she has her chance. So yeah, she stars in it
with Jonathan Bailey from Wicked. And yeah, we're expecting about
one hundred and twenty five to one hundred thirty million
over the five days.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
So Mark is, so the Last Jurassic World with Chris Pratt,
this is takes place when like five years later.
Speaker 14 (15:08):
Exactly, and it's it's sort of a reboot in the
way they go back to the original location and they
find sort of a mutated version of the dinosaurs and
they're not as nice or you know, they're really not cuddly.
And I think there's a lot of that sort of
original suspense from the first movie. And then the thing
(15:30):
about this movie is there's a lot you know, we
talked about these popcorn vessels and things can take. We've
got a t rex head with the popcorn in it.
You gotta get.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
That gets ahead of a t rex filled with popcorn.
Speaker 14 (15:49):
They're not gonna last. They're not gonna last.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
No, no, no, Mark, I haven't been to the movies
in a while. You have that technology where in certain
scenes the actual chairs you're sitting and start rumbling and
vibrating and stuff.
Speaker 14 (16:03):
Yeah it's for d X, and yeah you can. You
can do that at our our location in Randolph and
it literally moves the seats and follows the action and
you feel like and you so you want to see
a movie like f one or Jurassic in that if
you like it. But I mean it is a lot
of moving, so just be aware and hold on to
(16:24):
your your drinks from your popcorn.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know what's weird.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I was kidding about that question.
Speaker 14 (16:35):
As a matter of fact, it even does like misting.
If you're in if it's in the scene, you feel
the mist or rain. It doesn't rain, but you know,
you feel you feel the effects as much as you
can in the lighting. It's amazing to you know. I mean,
it's an experience. It's not exactly for everyone, but I
mean it's for people who want to be really truly immersed,
(16:56):
you know, in the in the action, in the scene
that's on the screen.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
So it be clear, Mark, if I go to showcase
certain ones, I'll have a vibrating chair, I'll have a
mist in the air, and what else happens? Oh and
I get my popcorn int the t rex's head.
Speaker 14 (17:14):
Yeah exactly, So do that, Yeah, Randolph, that that that's
where where you can get that. And then just just
just what's upcoming? I mean, I think, and then I
was thinking, what's the Billy's gonna ask me, what's the
movie of the summer? Yeah, so should I just just
say it. I said the movie of the summer is
going to be Superman. Superman opens on seven eleven. James
(17:39):
Gunn is directing this one, and it's going to be
a new take on you know, it's supposed to be
comic book accurate, in the lighter version of Superman. Cryptos
in it, the dog in it, and it's got a
whole new cast. You know, it's got a new Superman
David Corn Sweat and that Superman in Clark Tent and
(18:00):
then Rachel Bras in theahand for Missus masl Is Lois Lane.
So this supposed to be sort of a fun, lighter
version of Superman. So and and I can't say too
much because everyone who's seen it on my team has
signed an NDA.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
Okay, but.
Speaker 14 (18:22):
People are are you know, people are sitting they're going
to line up to see this one.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Now you mentioned James Gunn. Is he Tim Gunn's brother
by any chance?
Speaker 14 (18:29):
I don't know. I don't know, No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't think.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
But you know James, you know who you know? He
directed the Guardian of the Galaxy movie. Oh yeah, yeah,
So and he's now heading up d C from Warner Brothers.
You know, he's co leading it. They're kind of re
envisioning d C and the movies that are going to
be coming out from it, and this is sort of
the first big step, you know for Warner Brothers.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Well, we got Superman Red Sox yesterday.
Speaker 14 (19:03):
Yeah, exactly, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's gonna be everywhere.
Speaker 14 (19:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be the
big one, and then I think the sleeper of the summer.
This is in August, August eighth, and you may have
heard about this. This is two trailers that have dropped.
It's a movie called Weapons and Julia Gardner's in it,
Josh Berlin, and it's a horror movie and it's it's
really creepy. It's, uh, what takes place when seventeen kids
(19:31):
disappear and they're all from the same classroom and Julia
Gardner's character is the teacher and at night they disappear
and then they come back not quite the same. It's
it's it's gonna be uh. It's so there's a lot
of buzz around this, and Warner Brothers was going to
release it next year, but they've pulled it and brought
(19:52):
it up.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
To August eighth. Okay, so to recap quickly, got theaters.
Jurassic Park arrives today. We've got Superman on the way
and weapons on the way.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Yeah, and we got a run Mark. We got our
next guest is coming in.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Please welcome the very lovely my friend Tim Gun.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
All right, hey, guys, let's get right into the number
two moment of the week. It's producer Riley from Billy
and Lisa in the Morning, and we had author Dave
Wedge live in studio. He is the author of Boston Strong,
the book that was then turned into Patriots Day with
Mark Wahlberg. He told us all about it and even
stayed after the show with Lisa and I talk about
(20:31):
his upcoming projects. You can hear that whole interview on
Lisa's book Club podcast.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
We've got author Dave Wedge and studio and Lisa, this
is strange the way this happened.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay, So your buddy who is the chef.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
And recently and said you need to connect with a
Boston author named Dave Wedge, and you got you right
about true crime and we love true crime. Here we
just came off the heels of the Karen Reid trial,
and I know that you're working on a Karen Read book,
but people if they don't know Dave Wedge.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Dave Wedge wrote.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Boston Strong with Casey Sherman, which was turned into Patriots
Day starring Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yeah, yeah, Casey and I wrote that book back in
twenty fourteen. I was a reporter at the Boston Herald
for fourteen years and led the Herald's coverage when that
all happened. I was out there in Watertown that night,
in the middle of the night, and.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
You were there when they were searching for the guy
in the boat.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I got sent out as soon as Sean Collier got
shot and over at MIT, I got sent out, and
as I was on my way there, I got diverted
from there to Watertown because we heard on the scanner
of the bombs wow in the shootout.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
So I was stuck out there.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Actually my car was actually trapped in the crime scene,
and I got stuck out there through the night.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
You were that close. I was in the crimes of
what was going down. That must have been a crazy
time because they were looking for the guy right they
were everywhere, and then all of a sudden the story
popped from MIT and the MIT cop was shot and
then you hear it, you're running out.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
It was not sign. My son, who's now twelve, was
two weeks old, and my wife, Jessica had the baby
on maternity leave, and I came home after covering the
bombings all day, and then we heard the shooting of
Sean Collier on the TV. When I finally sat down,
I was trying to help with the baby finally, and
I said, you know, this doesn't happen. Something's wrong, and
(22:14):
I kind of knew right away it had to be connected.
Then I got sent out.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
So God, I've seen the movie five or six time. Yah.
So they get to the scene at the boat. Like,
I'm getting shills now just thinking about it.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
It's amazing that more police officers weren't killed in that.
It was really an incredibly intense moment.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Wow, what made you write the book?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Well, as I said, I've been a reporter for fourteen years,
I always wanted to do a book. I was a
report of twenty years. Actually. I had a few opportunities
with a couple other stories over the years, but nothing
that really jumped out at me and made me say,
you know what, I want to dedicate a year or
two of my life to this. But when the bombings happened,
I knew someone was going to do it. I knew
there'd probably be a bunch of books, and I was like,
you know what, I'm in the middle of it. I
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have access to all these people. I know I can
do a good job on it. In Casey's an amazing writer,
he had just come off The Finest Hours, which is
a beautiful book movie, and he's a friend, so I
knew we would do a great job together. So it
was kind of a no brainer for me to jump in.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
At least a couple of seconds ago mention, Karen Reid,
is your Karen read book, the one they're talking about
the big film.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Unfortunately, know that's Karen Reid herself with her attorney Alan Jackson.
But this is another one. I was thinking about doing
a book on the Karen Reid case way back before
the first trial when it all first started happening, and
I kind of tabled it to write this book that
just came out about marvelous Marvin Hagler. When the second
trial came up, I jumped back in after I finished
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this one, and I've been working on my Karen read
book for the past six months, seven months.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
It seems like in Boston we have a lot of
true crime stories.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Oh yeah, you know, there's so many great stories in
the world where a culturist storytellers just humans in general.
But in Boston we're really good at telling stories and
a lot of really incredible stories come out of it.
And the bombing is a great example. You know, there
was books about the terrorist, you know, those books about
different people involvement. We wrote the story about the survivors
and how they overcame and and that redemption moment and
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some of the survivors that lost limbs and then ran
the marathon the next year. You know. That's that's what
Strong is and that's why we wrote it.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
You know, were you happy with the way the movie
came out.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I think it's a great movie. You know, it's they
did they did. When it first came out, it was raw,
so it was a little like, you know, I wasn't sure,
but I watched it for the ten year anniversary last year,
and I think it's held up well. I think it
captured the spirit of what happened. I think Mark Wahlberg
did a great job and Pete Burg's a great filming.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Did they have you on the set?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
We were on set a good amount. Yeah, And you know, wow,
we didn't write the script, but you know, they kept
us in the loop and we worked with them to
make sure things were right and accurate. And you know,
I couldn't say better things about Peteburg and Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
They're wonderful, weird with it is amazingly talented, very talented guy.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
And that was a difficult story at a difficult time.
Remember the FBI. There was things the FBI didn't want
out like, there was moments where Pete had to actually
meet with the FBI to clear stuff. It was a
it was a difficult, difficult movie to make, and we
were in a time where again it was very raw.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Now with the Karen read book, will you have talks
with Karen Reid?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I have met with Karen a couple of times before
the first trial. I've talked to Alan Jackson many times.
But you know, they're going to do their own book.
So I'm going to skate my lane and write my book,
and my book will be the definitive story of what
happened in the case from all sides.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Well, Dave if you want some really hardcore research. It
so happens we're going to have Karen Reid's a lawyer
or Robert A. Let's say, on this show tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Just I'll be listening.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Putting your alarm up right after nine o'clock tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I'm sure Dave will be listening. Actually, because you're a
good reporter.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Absolutely now I will.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Oh, I love it if our show is part of
the research, can you put us in the book maybe?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And you know, hey, you know, maybe get in the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So Dave has a new book out.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
It's called Blood and Hate, the marvelous Marvin Hagler's story
about the Boxer. But the biggest thing is is that
it's been optioned by actor Sam Rockwell, who was just
in The White Lotus.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yes, yeah, yeah. So this book is kind of my
labor of love. It's my love letter to the city
I grew up in, Brockton. It's my eighth book, and
again it's one that I kind of thought about doing
for a few years, and then I finally did it.
After I finished my last book, which was about bikers
and cops and stuff, a true crime book called Writing
with Evil. I wanted to write this book with Marvin
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when he was alive, but after he passed away, I
was like, you know what, this guy's legacy has never
really been secured. A lot of people think of Marvin Hagler,
they think, oh, he lost to Sugary Len and then disappeared.
But to me, Marvin's story is this story, which is
him escaping Newark as a little boy, fighting the corruption
in the seventies and eighties in the box and then
winning this fight in London in nineteen eighty against a
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guy that was backed by a white power group and
he was pelted with bottles after he won the fight.
And that's what the story is about.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, at least it was telling me that in the
Marvin story. I wasn't to realize this because we would
have Marvin on the show a lot. You don't write
out of Brockton. Yeah, World Channel. But he dealt with
a lot of racism.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
He did in that fight specifically, and it was nineteen
eighty and the guy he fought guy named Alan Minter,
and he was from London and he was the great
White Hope and there was a white power group that
loved the guy. They backed him. It was called the
National Front Before the fight, Marvin and Alan had a
press conference and Alan said at that press conference that
no black man will ever take my title. No imagine
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saying that today. Oh, viral doesn't even describe it. There
was no viral back then, but it stuck. It caused
a wound, and Alan Minter paid for that comment.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Now, Dave. A little bit earlier on the show, I
told Marvin Hagler story that I had from an old
Kiss concert and I'm not sure you'll find it in
the book though. When he was back to you missed that. Yeah,
he was.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
He was a man about town. You know a lot
of people. The beautiful thing about this book is I'm
out doing events all the time now and book signings,
and it's wonderful to hear people like you come up from,
you know, from people in their you know, forties and
fifties at New Marvin sixties even, and they spent time
when they hung out with him and went to his fights.
And we call him the fifth Franchise in Brockton because
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he was as big as the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Red Sox back in the day. Yeah, I loved him
in this region. Justin had your hand in.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
The Joe Rogan, you know, one of the biggest podcasters
in the world. Grew up in Boston. He was a
big Marvin fan.
Speaker 15 (28:11):
When I was a kid growing up in Boston, Hagler
was the Middleway champion of the world, and I used
to see They used to have video of him running.
They played it on the news. He was running on
the There was the dunes, sand dunes and Kate Cod
in the winter, freezing cold, with a hoodie on, running.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Screaming war w.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
It's amazing.
Speaker 15 (28:29):
Marvin Hagler made you want to just get out of
your house and go running in the snow.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
He has the picture.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Man on the bench in the snow.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, you know Rogan. Rogan loves Hagler because he knows
great greatness when he says it, you know.
Speaker 16 (28:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And he was The thing about Marvin again, was you know,
to me, he embodies the spirit of where I grew up,
you know, Brockton. It's resilience, its overcoming adversity. He wasn't
an insider in the boxing game. He wasn't with Don
King of bar He was an outsider, and so were
his train.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Is, local trainers, the Petronelles.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And they fought against that very corrupt machine and there's
there's some great stuff in the book. I could talk
about it all day, but suffice to say, Ted Kennedy
and Tip O'Neil had to step in to help Marvin
while his title shot. That's how corrupt it was.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
And the most ripped person I've ever seen in my life.
And that's before all the crazy stuff that people are.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You know, this is going to be another great movie.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I think, so, you know. And Sam Rockwell optioned the
rights to it, as you said, and I've been working
with him, and we've actually brought on Rosie Perez as
a was amazing and I'm doing an event with Rosie
in New York on July sixteenth at a great bookstore
on Brooklyn called Powerhouse Arena. There you go, and Sam
wants to play Goodye Petronelli and hit me great at
it because Goody was such a quirky yeah, you know,
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wearing headbands and yeah, see dressed up in the seventies garb.
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
And before we say goodbye, you're going to be doing
the book your podcast at least.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Yeah, So Dave will be on our podcast this weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
So happy you guys have me in. I love the show.
Fellow Milton Night. Lisa. He Billy, I love your work,
been following you for years.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Thanks, thank you very much, and you could be one
of the best dressed writers I've ever seen. And I
mean that with the greatest respect. I got to thank
my wife for that wearing. By the way, never mind
forget I have.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
So we just had Dave Wedge as the number two
moment talking about how he's writing a book on Karen Reid.
And you will never guess who is the number one moment. Hey,
it's producer Riley from Billy and Lisa in the Morning.
And Billy gave a call to Karen Reid's lawyer, Robert
Alessi after they had met at the Greasy Poll of
all places. It's number one.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Good morning, Counselor, Alessie.
Speaker 17 (30:40):
Good morning, Billy, and it's great to be on the
Billy and Lisa Morning Show.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Now that clip we just played from the courtroom, Counselor,
did that bring back memories? And did you know you
hit kind of a home run there?
Speaker 17 (30:54):
The answer is yes, it brought back memories. And I
usually leave it to others as to whether I've hit
a home run or not, but I at a minimum
felt that I effectively had entered into the deep impeachment
and ultimate destruction of mister Burgess as one of the
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key witnesses for the prosecution.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Boys said, just like a lawyer.
Speaker 17 (31:22):
That happens every once in a while when I talk.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Yeah, So, Lisa, you had a couple of questions.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
From Robert Well the impact of having Proctor's texts allowed
into the testimony without actually having to call Proctor.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
How important?
Speaker 14 (31:36):
Was that?
Speaker 17 (31:37):
It was very important? And there was a lot of
behind the scenes jockeying about that, the prosecution trying to
force us to call former Trooper Proctor to the stand,
and we thought it in our client, Miss Reid's best
interest that he not be called and the text be read.
(31:58):
And when we achieved that result, and thanks to David Yanetti,
my co consul, who did an excellent job on the
of an injury issues on that, when we got the
judges ruling that the text could be read, we knew
that that was a very significant positive result for Miss read.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Well, especially I mean once Procter was fired. I mean,
you know, it kind of shines a weird light on
the case, right, Oh.
Speaker 17 (32:27):
It certainly does. And Billy, in addition to shining a
weird light. I think it really sent the appropriate message
to the jury that this was the lead investigator. I
thought it was a big mistake that the prosecution never
called the lead investigator, and the fact that he was,
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as you astutely point out, was fired. If I'm a juror,
that is a huge red flag to me. And he
was fired for his conduct on this Karen Reid investigation,
not some other case. So I think all of that
led to a very very significant point for the jurors
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to consider in their deliberations.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Now, were you and the rest of the legal team
were you surprised by the following that this case picked
up not only locally, regionally, but nationally.
Speaker 17 (33:27):
I was not part of the first trial. I was
obviously a major part of the second trial. So when
I came in on the second trial, it was already
a huge following. I was not surprised, but I was
surprised at the degree to which it had a following.
And there's a variety of theories as to why that occurred,
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but I was certainly surprised, and I will add heartened
with the following because people took a significant issue shoe
A shoe significant interest in the many concerning issues. A
lot of what happened to miss Read could happen to anybody,
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and so in that regard, I was not surprised overall,
but the depth and the extent and the breadth of it,
this was worldwide, millions of people watching it worldwide. That
surprised me that it went that far internationally.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Now, a story broke this week that Karen and Alan
Jackson are partnering on a book and a movie deal.
Are you part of that?
Speaker 17 (34:38):
I am not able to comment on that topic. I'm
just not able to do that. With all apologies to
you and your listeners, it's a topic that I can't
comment on.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
You know, you were listening the other night when you
and I were hanging out, I said, if there's something
that's uncomfortable, say I can't go there.
Speaker 17 (34:59):
Yes, you're very gracious about that, and that's an area.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
But who would you want to have play you in
a movie or a TV series.
Speaker 17 (35:08):
Billy Costa.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
That we have some questions here from our audience.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Tony Alessi, Hi, this is for Attorney Alessie.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
First of all, love your team, love love listening to
your interviews. Just want to know if you think it's
going to be a game changer in the civil case
when they allow the evidence that wasn't allowed in the
criminal case to come out. Just wondering your.
Speaker 16 (35:36):
Opinion, counselor your answer, Well, the short answer is the
civil case has different standards, different approaches, and what evidence
a different judge, and I suspect it's going to be
a different judge will allow is to be determined.
Speaker 17 (35:55):
My hope is that in the civil case that there
is more evidence that's allowed to come in. It's also
a different standard of proof, so there's a lot of
different factors. But I'm hopeful that there will be more
information that comes in in that trial. And whether or
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not that information becomes a game changer remains to be seen.
But I'm hopeful for that case to the extent it
does end up going to a trial, I'm hopeful that
it does come in and become a game changer.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Robert, I know you're in New York. Are you already
working another case?
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (36:33):
Yes, yeah, I've got several cases, some of which I
put on hold for this, But i have a very
active caseload and great clients and great matters, and I'm
already reimmersed in those and I've had several phone calls
for new matters, so I'm back in full swing in
New York.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Well, Robert, hopefully you and I can hang out again
in the Cape Ann region of Massachusetts.
Speaker 17 (37:01):
That would be delightful. I enjoyed our time together and
it would be great if we could do that again.
I hope to get up there this summer again.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
All right, Well, you always welcome on the Billy and
Lisa Morning Show. Thank you for taking time out. I
know you're very busy in New York.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
All right, Well, that's going to do it for the
Top five Moments of the week's producer Riley from Billy
and Lisa in the Morning. We will be back on Monday,
and we still have that one thousand dollars the summer
vac payday at nine ten. I hope everybody had a
great fourth of July. I hope everybody is recovering from
the hot Dog hangover. The Kiss Top thirty Countdown with
Billy and Justin is coming up. But I hope everybody
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enjoys the rest of their weekend. Have a good one, guys,
It's the best a billion Lisa in the Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey guys, good morning, Happy Saturday, Happy day after fourth
of July. I'm sure people are recovering from their hot
dog hangover.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So while you take it slow this.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Morning, I am going to count down the top five
moments of the week. It's produced a riley from Billy
and Lisa in the Morning. And you know, something that
we love to do is take talkbacks from people, especially
when they spark our topic time it's number five.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
In Morning, could you please do a segment on engagement
party gifts? What is the protocol? These young people have
parties for everything, and I just wanted to see what
the listeners thought the protocol was.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
But engagement party gifts.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Thank you well, Lisa Donovan, you are the princess of protocol.
So what's the deal on engagement gifts?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
All right? So that talkbacker was right.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
There are several parties associated with weddings, from the bait,
from the wedding shower, to the bachelorette party, to the
engagement party to the wedding. So I've been invited to
a lot of those, like for different weddings. So usually
for the shower you're doing something that they registered for.
I would say, give money. I've always given money at
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an engagement party.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Okay, cash, no, well or right, you can't go wrong
with gift cards.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
I just think engagement party, that's a safe bet. But
I have to say sometimes people are not invited to
the shower, but they are invited to the engagement party.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
But I don't think some engage parties are more just
to celebrate the engagement, because sometimes they do the night
of right, like they like, if they know it's a
sure thing, they'll plan it and then right after everyone
will go and meet and that's kind of the engagement party.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I guess.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
I think it's a lot to ask someone to give
the engagement to pay for the bachelorette party, for going
dle shower, and then the actual wedding because bridle shower
and wedding are automatically giving gifts.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Okay, so if you're invited to all of them, you
could probably skip getting them something for the engagement party.
But if you're not invited to the shower and you're
invited to the engagement party, because this is a thing,
A lot of times engagement parties, the parents' friends are
invited to the engagement party, and that's their opportunity to
give something. They may not be invited to the shower,
but they will be invited to the wedding.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
The bridal showers still exist.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, they absolutely do.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
I just went to one a few weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
But they're not They're not opening up gifts anymore at
the at these bridal showers, which is a good thing
because I always thought that was.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Time.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I actually sent the gift to their house so they
are assured to Like Amazon and I they I got
the invitation in March and right away went on well
and I sent right to her in their house.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
Yeah, that's the new way. I feel like, you don't
actually bring the physical gifts.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
No, you don't just get it sent.
Speaker 9 (02:55):
It sounds like a lot to me. But I think
we I think we had all three and really gifts
at all three.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh yeah, that lucky you.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
But yeah, but did you have like a destination bachelor
party and a destination bachelorette now party that do.
Speaker 8 (03:07):
We do that?
Speaker 9 (03:07):
I went to New York for my bachelor party, but
it wasn't a huge thing. It was just a couple
of my friends. We had a bridle shower. We gave
a party, and we had a wedding. People went to
all three, and I think we got gifts at all three.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's a lot to add.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
I mean, I'm in that era where everyone's getting married
and all that stuff, and I just I'm so glad
I don't have a lot of good friends.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
But think of it this, what if you had all
those right, you had all those parties, but you also
had a destination bachelor party, destination bachelorette party, destination wedding. Yeah,
think about how much that costs everybody.
Speaker 9 (03:37):
You were telling me before the show this morning. So
your best friend, Dukie's daughter who we had on the
show because she was invited to so many weddings. Yes,
still getting invited to crazy amount of weddings.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Right, she just came home from Montana for a bachelorette
party and now she's going to be in yet another wedding.
Like she's been in more weddings than anyone I've ever known.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
She could put to downpayment on a house for the
Amoy easily. On weddings. She has to start saying, no, it's.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
Too much, Yeah, it's too much.
Speaker 10 (04:07):
Good morning.
Speaker 11 (04:08):
On the topic of gifts for engagement parties, I've only
been to.
Speaker 10 (04:12):
One, I think in my entire life.
Speaker 12 (04:15):
But I've been took plenty of brad shows, of.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Plenty of weddings, and you will not be receiving three
gifts for me. So invite me to one, invite me
to two, but do not invite me to three.
Speaker 12 (04:26):
If you're expecting gifts at all three.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's true, pick pick, and choose where you're going to
do your gift.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
I'd rather just not be invited. Well, and if they're
close enough to you, you send them a nice gift,
but you don't have to go.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Well, if they're close enough to you, you need to go
like okay. For instance, one of my really close friends
to getting married on a boat in August, and I
do not want it.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I love her death.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
I do not want I want an Irish exit. She
knows this about me. I don't want to have to
stay the whole time. You're on a boat, you cannot leave,
and I'm expected to be there.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I will be there.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
I love her death, but I am a little like,
oh my god, girl, we're on a boat for four hours.
I can't get off unless I jump off. It's one
of those city cruises or yeah of Boston, harbor, and.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
But it'll be fun, I know.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
But it's just like I think it's tough though that
type of wedding because you've got inviting people that have
young kids. Sometimes they do have to leave early because
there's like a babysitter issue.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You know, you're kind of stock.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
You're all trapped on this boat for four hours from
six to ten.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
Are there going to be kids on the boat.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
She does have a couple of nieces. I'm assuming they'll
be at the wedding. I don't know about her fiance's side,
so I think there will be some children there. But
all I know is that like I was trying to
go after like cake, like I wasn't going to try
to stay till the last.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Dance, and I will beat.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I'm on the boat.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You're fully committed.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
You know I love you, But I'm having a vision
of you falling overboard. I want to tell you that
I wouldn't laugh. Honestly, I might jump off some time.
I would probably laugh, but then dive in the thank you.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
So this is a wedding.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's a wedding.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Yes, yeah, that's what I went to her her shower
a few weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
So you're getting a gift for the wedding.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Of course, I already said I'm going to probably give
like two two fifty in cash.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I figured.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
So if you're invited to the shower, the engagement party,
and the wedding.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, give gifts twice.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Twice shower and then either engagement party or wedding.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Yeah, so what about one of the three?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Well, the thing is, guys get away.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
If the guy's a friend, they get away with the
wife or whoever they're plus one is not going to
the bridle shower sometime. Then they only get to the
wedding because guys don't have like a shower. So what
females are the ones spending the money to do.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
They'll get the dresses, haar and makeup.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, So what's an acceptable gift for an engagement party?
I think that was the original question, right, what is
the acceptable amount?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I think you give what you can give.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
I again, you do not want to put yourself, you know,
out like in you know, put yourself out financially, so
you know.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Just know they'll talk about you afterwards. My presence, there
is the gift. Okay, it's not much of a gift.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Give what you can give.
Speaker 13 (07:09):
Yeah, good morning, guys, especially Billy.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Listen.
Speaker 13 (07:12):
I don't know if it's Monday or because I'm all
hot and bosited or whatever, but listen, there's way too
many parties, bridal showers now where guys have to go,
wedding whatever. Listen, if you send me an engagement invitation,
this is what I'm getting you. I'm getting you and
I'm not coming to your freaking engagement party.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Heyo, Hey, guys, it's producer Riley from Billy and Lisa
in the Morning cutting down the top five moments of
the week with you. Number four is the answer to
the question do you bring a gift to an engagement party.
We gave our thoughts and then we went to the phones.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
We Linda, good morning, your thoughts.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
Good morning. Well, my daughter just got engaged and it's
kind of put a little damper on her plans because
she's been to eighteen weddings in two years, and she's
invited to seven more, and she has been in the
wedding party eleven so all those expenses that you've been
(08:07):
talking about. But Whinnie, I agree with you for sure.
She's got so many friends it's okay to say no
to some of these, But now she wants to have
a small wedding because she's seen everything you can imagine
in weddings, and I don't know, I just feel like
it's kind of put a damper. But in the engagement
party realm, she's I just talked to her and she said,
(08:30):
she's they don't do any any gifts, any money or
anything for engagement because there's so many of that era
now that's getting married and they're all friends. So anyway,
eighteen weddings in two years, you needless to say, how.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Does your daughter have so many friends?
Speaker 10 (08:47):
I have to just tell you one more thing. They're
buying a house, so the amount of money that we're
helping them out has just increased. So I told her,
no more money, stop going to weddings. It's enough already.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
How does she have so many friends?
Speaker 10 (09:03):
She went to a school, she played she played a
sport in school, and it was at a high level
Division one school and there was just so many friends.
And her fiance also played a Division one sport also,
and so between the two of them, I mean, they
have so many friends. I lovely kids, but you know,
(09:26):
dead the destination. The destination. Bachelorette parties are the things
that are.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Oh god, I was going to say, of all the
eighteen weddings, how many were destination weddings and or bachelorette parties.
Speaker 10 (09:38):
No weddings, but the bachelorette party She's been to everywhere, Arizona, Tennessee,
they went to Florida. They just came back from Puerto
Rico two weeks ago on one of them, and we're
literally coming back from Maine right now on another shower.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
How much did she spend last year on weddings? Do
you think?
Speaker 10 (09:58):
So? Of course, you know they're they're pretty closed mouth
about it. But I know how many wedding parties she's
been in, So I'm gonna guess sixty seventy thousand dollars
on easy easy, easy easy. I know the one that
for Puerto Rico it was five thousand dollars. The one
that they went to Tennessee, it was four thousand dollars
(10:21):
because you got to pay for the airfare and the
hotels and everything that you do at the shower. The
bridal party, you know, pitches in like obviously the bride
doesn't say for any of.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That crazy, that's insane.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Puerto Rico was a bachelorette party, yes, you know, you
have no ideas.
Speaker 10 (10:40):
One was in the Caribbean, one was in this Sonoma valley.
They went to Sonoma and had a wine country to experience.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What did she do for a living?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, that's the Was she like a lawyer or a
doctor or what does she do?
Speaker 10 (10:53):
She's a nurse and her husband is just they just
started out in finances, a big finance to come.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Well, maybe they have the money, but they need boundaries.
I think they need a little boundaries.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
Start saying, don't you think if they say no to
some friends then and yes to others, they fall into
that situation where you know, you upset some people. You're
saying yes one person, no to another.
Speaker 10 (11:16):
Yes, and she's and they're all like really super close
knit friends. But she wants to have a small wedding.
And I says, well, you know what you need to
at least put all of those people that you spent
all this money for on your list to make sure
they come so you can recoup a little bit. But
you know that's me.
Speaker 8 (11:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Justin my thought is you want to disappoint some of
them and then you don't have to go.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
You can't convince me that there's eleven people that I
should be in their wedding because like, I'm not close
with them. She can't convince me. Eleventh a lot that
she was in, and then she invited to another four
like twenty five. So she has twenty five weddings and
now the twenty five eleven she was in them. I'm
when I'm close.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Guys sixty or seventy grand, yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
And these are all friends, right, and yet they're trying
to one up each other.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
Yeah, like, oh no, can do this.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
You're my friend. I'm not going to ask you to
spend five grand on my party.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I think I only have like three friends.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah no, I literally am like, I thank god, I
only have like three friends.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
It's so funny because if you go down the road,
most of the people that go to your wedding you're
not going to be friends with in twenty years.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah twenty you know them the next year.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
Yeah yeah, I don't even remember who was at my wedding.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah yeah, crazy, Good morning morning crew.
Speaker 12 (12:23):
So for a gift to every party I'm invited to,
which it's many, is I give the gift of myself
on this my crazy party.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Self, because I bring the phone, I love that a
wedding gift. Well she should, but.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Still, you know, I say give nothing and make sure
you drink more than anybody else, eat more than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Hey, guys, welcome back to the Top five moments of
the week. I'm producer Riley from Billy and Lisa in
the Morning, and I'll be counting them down for you.
There have been some huge releases in the movie world lately.
We have the f one movie, Superman is coming out.
Jurassic World came out this week. We had to get
Marked the Movie Nerd on to break it all down
for us. It's number three.
Speaker 14 (13:06):
Let's all go to.
Speaker 10 (13:07):
The love that's.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Mark the Movie Nerd. Good morning, Good morning, guys.
Speaker 14 (13:18):
How are you.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
We're doing fine? Right at the top.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
We got to tell you we've been playing the Mega
match game and one of the biggest prizes is Showcase
Movies for a year. How's that for a deal.
Speaker 14 (13:30):
Oh Man, Showcase subscribe? Is that what it is? You're
given away?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
We're giving it all away, Yeah, give it away the
whole store.
Speaker 14 (13:39):
It's like, you know what, it's a good it's a
good year for this, you know. And Billy, you just you.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Lead with it.
Speaker 14 (13:45):
It's like F one again.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
So everyone's talking about.
Speaker 14 (13:49):
It and you know, you got to see it on
the biggest screen, Brad Pitt. And then it's directed by
Joseph Kazinski, who did Top Gun Maverick a few years ago.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Well, Lisa Dunovan was in the show theater for it.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
I was a legacy placed on Saturday night, And you're right.
I was so glad I saw it in the theater
because the sound of the cars, the soundtrack, you have
to see it with your sound system and.
Speaker 14 (14:17):
Them and the rumbling and did you feel like you're there? Yeah,
it's incredible. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's gonna do great this weekend.
But then, yeah, Bill, you said, Jurassic that opens today,
and uh yeah, I mean the word on this one
is it's like the original movies. You know, it's got
that terror, you know, and suspense in it. And Scarlet
(14:39):
Johansen has wanted to be in a Jurassic World movie
or Park movie for a very long time, so now
she has her chance. So yeah, she stars in it
with Jonathan Bailey from Wicked. And yeah, we're expecting about
one hundred and twenty five to one hundred thirty million
over the five days.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
So Mark is, so the Last Jurassic World with Chris Pratt,
this is takes place when like five years later.
Speaker 14 (15:08):
Exactly, and it's it's sort of a reboot in the
way they go back to the original location and they
find sort of a mutated version of the dinosaurs and
they're not as nice or you know, they're really not cuddly.
And I think there's a lot of that sort of
original suspense from the first movie. And then the thing
(15:30):
about this movie is there's a lot you know, we
talked about these popcorn vessels and things can take. We've
got a t rex head with the popcorn in it.
You gotta get.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
That gets ahead of a t rex filled with popcorn.
Speaker 14 (15:49):
They're not gonna last. They're not gonna last.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
No, no, no, Mark, I haven't been to the movies
in a while. You have that technology where in certain
scenes the actual chairs you're sitting and start rumbling and
vibrating and stuff.
Speaker 14 (16:03):
Yeah it's for d X, and yeah you can. You
can do that at our our location in Randolph and
it literally moves the seats and follows the action and
you feel like and you so you want to see
a movie like f one or Jurassic in that if
you like it. But I mean it is a lot
of moving, so just be aware and hold on to
(16:24):
your your drinks from your popcorn.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know what's weird.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I was kidding about that question.
Speaker 14 (16:35):
As a matter of fact, it even does like misting.
If you're in if it's in the scene, you feel
the mist or rain. It doesn't rain, but you know,
you feel you feel the effects as much as you
can in the lighting. It's amazing to you know. I mean,
it's an experience. It's not exactly for everyone, but I
mean it's for people who want to be really truly immersed,
(16:56):
you know, in the in the action, in the scene
that's on the screen.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
So it be clear, Mark, if I go to showcase
certain ones, I'll have a vibrating chair, I'll have a
mist in the air, and what else happens? Oh and
I get my popcorn int the t rex's head.
Speaker 14 (17:14):
Yeah exactly, So do that, Yeah, Randolph, that that that's
where where you can get that. And then just just
just what's upcoming? I mean, I think, and then I
was thinking, what's the Billy's gonna ask me, what's the
movie of the summer? Yeah, so should I just just
say it. I said the movie of the summer is
going to be Superman. Superman opens on seven eleven. James
(17:39):
Gunn is directing this one, and it's going to be
a new take on you know, it's supposed to be
comic book accurate, in the lighter version of Superman. Cryptos
in it, the dog in it, and it's got a
whole new cast. You know, it's got a new Superman
David Corn Sweat and that Superman in Clark Tent and
(18:00):
then Rachel Bras in theahand for Missus masl Is Lois Lane.
So this supposed to be sort of a fun, lighter
version of Superman. So and and I can't say too
much because everyone who's seen it on my team has
signed an NDA.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
Okay, but.
Speaker 14 (18:22):
People are are you know, people are sitting they're going
to line up to see this one.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Now you mentioned James Gunn. Is he Tim Gunn's brother
by any chance?
Speaker 14 (18:29):
I don't know. I don't know, No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't think.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
But you know James, you know who you know? He
directed the Guardian of the Galaxy movie. Oh yeah, yeah,
So and he's now heading up d C from Warner Brothers.
You know, he's co leading it. They're kind of re
envisioning d C and the movies that are going to
be coming out from it, and this is sort of
the first big step, you know for Warner Brothers.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Well, we got Superman Red Sox yesterday.
Speaker 14 (19:03):
Yeah, exactly, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's gonna be everywhere.
Speaker 14 (19:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be the
big one, and then I think the sleeper of the summer.
This is in August, August eighth, and you may have
heard about this. This is two trailers that have dropped.
It's a movie called Weapons and Julia Gardner's in it,
Josh Berlin, and it's a horror movie and it's it's
really creepy. It's, uh, what takes place when seventeen kids
(19:31):
disappear and they're all from the same classroom and Julia
Gardner's character is the teacher and at night they disappear
and then they come back not quite the same. It's
it's it's gonna be uh. It's so there's a lot
of buzz around this, and Warner Brothers was going to
release it next year, but they've pulled it and brought
(19:52):
it up.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
To August eighth. Okay, so to recap quickly, got theaters.
Jurassic Park arrives today. We've got Superman on the way
and weapons on the way.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Yeah, and we got a run Mark. We got our
next guest is coming in.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Please welcome the very lovely my friend Tim Gun.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
All right, hey, guys, let's get right into the number
two moment of the week. It's producer Riley from Billy
and Lisa in the Morning, and we had author Dave
Wedge live in studio. He is the author of Boston Strong,
the book that was then turned into Patriots Day with
Mark Wahlberg. He told us all about it and even
stayed after the show with Lisa and I talk about
(20:31):
his upcoming projects. You can hear that whole interview on
Lisa's book Club podcast.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
We've got author Dave Wedge and studio and Lisa, this
is strange the way this happened.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay, So your buddy who is the chef.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
And recently and said you need to connect with a
Boston author named Dave Wedge, and you got you right
about true crime and we love true crime. Here we
just came off the heels of the Karen Reid trial,
and I know that you're working on a Karen Read book,
but people if they don't know Dave Wedge.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Dave Wedge wrote.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Boston Strong with Casey Sherman, which was turned into Patriots
Day starring Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yeah, yeah, Casey and I wrote that book back in
twenty fourteen. I was a reporter at the Boston Herald
for fourteen years and led the Herald's coverage when that
all happened. I was out there in Watertown that night,
in the middle of the night, and.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
You were there when they were searching for the guy
in the boat.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I got sent out as soon as Sean Collier got
shot and over at MIT, I got sent out, and
as I was on my way there, I got diverted
from there to Watertown because we heard on the scanner
of the bombs wow in the shootout.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
So I was stuck out there.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Actually my car was actually trapped in the crime scene,
and I got stuck out there through the night.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
You were that close. I was in the crimes of
what was going down. That must have been a crazy
time because they were looking for the guy right they
were everywhere, and then all of a sudden the story
popped from MIT and the MIT cop was shot and
then you hear it, you're running out.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
It was not sign. My son, who's now twelve, was
two weeks old, and my wife, Jessica had the baby
on maternity leave, and I came home after covering the
bombings all day, and then we heard the shooting of
Sean Collier on the TV. When I finally sat down,
I was trying to help with the baby finally, and
I said, you know, this doesn't happen. Something's wrong, and
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I kind of knew right away it had to be connected.
Then I got sent out.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
So God, I've seen the movie five or six time. Yah.
So they get to the scene at the boat. Like,
I'm getting shills now just thinking about it.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
It's amazing that more police officers weren't killed in that.
It was really an incredibly intense moment.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Wow, what made you write the book?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Well, as I said, I've been a reporter for fourteen years,
I always wanted to do a book. I was a
report of twenty years. Actually. I had a few opportunities
with a couple other stories over the years, but nothing
that really jumped out at me and made me say,
you know what, I want to dedicate a year or
two of my life to this. But when the bombings happened,
I knew someone was going to do it. I knew
there'd probably be a bunch of books, and I was like,
you know what, I'm in the middle of it. I
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have access to all these people. I know I can
do a good job on it. In Casey's an amazing writer,
he had just come off The Finest Hours, which is
a beautiful book movie, and he's a friend, so I
knew we would do a great job together. So it
was kind of a no brainer for me to jump in.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
At least a couple of seconds ago mention, Karen Reid,
is your Karen read book, the one they're talking about
the big film.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Unfortunately, know that's Karen Reid herself with her attorney Alan Jackson.
But this is another one. I was thinking about doing
a book on the Karen Reid case way back before
the first trial when it all first started happening, and
I kind of tabled it to write this book that
just came out about marvelous Marvin Hagler. When the second
trial came up, I jumped back in after I finished
(23:34):
this one, and I've been working on my Karen read
book for the past six months, seven months.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
It seems like in Boston we have a lot of
true crime stories.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Oh yeah, you know, there's so many great stories in
the world where a culturist storytellers just humans in general.
But in Boston we're really good at telling stories and
a lot of really incredible stories come out of it.
And the bombing is a great example. You know, there
was books about the terrorist, you know, those books about
different people involvement. We wrote the story about the survivors
and how they overcame and and that redemption moment and
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some of the survivors that lost limbs and then ran
the marathon the next year. You know. That's that's what
Strong is and that's why we wrote it.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
You know, were you happy with the way the movie
came out.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I think it's a great movie. You know, it's they
did they did. When it first came out, it was raw,
so it was a little like, you know, I wasn't sure,
but I watched it for the ten year anniversary last year,
and I think it's held up well. I think it
captured the spirit of what happened. I think Mark Wahlberg
did a great job and Pete Burg's a great filming.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Did they have you on the set?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
We were on set a good amount. Yeah, And you know, wow,
we didn't write the script, but you know, they kept
us in the loop and we worked with them to
make sure things were right and accurate. And you know,
I couldn't say better things about Peteburg and Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
They're wonderful, weird with it is amazingly talented, very talented guy.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
And that was a difficult story at a difficult time.
Remember the FBI. There was things the FBI didn't want
out like, there was moments where Pete had to actually
meet with the FBI to clear stuff. It was a
it was a difficult, difficult movie to make, and we
were in a time where again it was very raw.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Now with the Karen read book, will you have talks
with Karen Reid?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I have met with Karen a couple of times before
the first trial. I've talked to Alan Jackson many times.
But you know, they're going to do their own book.
So I'm going to skate my lane and write my book,
and my book will be the definitive story of what
happened in the case from all sides.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Well, Dave if you want some really hardcore research. It
so happens we're going to have Karen Reid's a lawyer
or Robert A. Let's say, on this show tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Just I'll be listening.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Putting your alarm up right after nine o'clock tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I'm sure Dave will be listening. Actually, because you're a
good reporter.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Absolutely now I will.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Oh, I love it if our show is part of
the research, can you put us in the book maybe?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And you know, hey, you know, maybe get in the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So Dave has a new book out.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
It's called Blood and Hate, the marvelous Marvin Hagler's story
about the Boxer. But the biggest thing is is that
it's been optioned by actor Sam Rockwell, who was just
in The White Lotus.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yes, yeah, yeah. So this book is kind of my
labor of love. It's my love letter to the city
I grew up in, Brockton. It's my eighth book, and
again it's one that I kind of thought about doing
for a few years, and then I finally did it.
After I finished my last book, which was about bikers
and cops and stuff, a true crime book called Writing
with Evil. I wanted to write this book with Marvin
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when he was alive, but after he passed away, I
was like, you know what, this guy's legacy has never
really been secured. A lot of people think of Marvin Hagler,
they think, oh, he lost to Sugary Len and then disappeared.
But to me, Marvin's story is this story, which is
him escaping Newark as a little boy, fighting the corruption
in the seventies and eighties in the box and then
winning this fight in London in nineteen eighty against a
(26:38):
guy that was backed by a white power group and
he was pelted with bottles after he won the fight.
And that's what the story is about.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, at least it was telling me that in the
Marvin story. I wasn't to realize this because we would
have Marvin on the show a lot. You don't write
out of Brockton. Yeah, World Channel. But he dealt with
a lot of racism.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
He did in that fight specifically, and it was nineteen
eighty and the guy he fought guy named Alan Minter,
and he was from London and he was the great
White Hope and there was a white power group that
loved the guy. They backed him. It was called the
National Front Before the fight, Marvin and Alan had a
press conference and Alan said at that press conference that
no black man will ever take my title. No imagine
(27:16):
saying that today. Oh, viral doesn't even describe it. There
was no viral back then, but it stuck. It caused
a wound, and Alan Minter paid for that comment.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Now, Dave. A little bit earlier on the show, I
told Marvin Hagler story that I had from an old
Kiss concert and I'm not sure you'll find it in
the book though. When he was back to you missed that. Yeah,
he was.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
He was a man about town. You know a lot
of people. The beautiful thing about this book is I'm
out doing events all the time now and book signings,
and it's wonderful to hear people like you come up from,
you know, from people in their you know, forties and
fifties at New Marvin sixties even, and they spent time
when they hung out with him and went to his fights.
And we call him the fifth Franchise in Brockton because
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he was as big as the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Red Sox back in the day. Yeah, I loved him
in this region. Justin had your hand in.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
The Joe Rogan, you know, one of the biggest podcasters
in the world. Grew up in Boston. He was a
big Marvin fan.
Speaker 15 (28:11):
When I was a kid growing up in Boston, Hagler
was the Middleway champion of the world, and I used
to see They used to have video of him running.
They played it on the news. He was running on
the There was the dunes, sand dunes and Kate Cod
in the winter, freezing cold, with a hoodie on, running.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Screaming war w.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
It's amazing.
Speaker 15 (28:29):
Marvin Hagler made you want to just get out of
your house and go running in the snow.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
He has the picture.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Man on the bench in the snow.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, you know Rogan. Rogan loves Hagler because he knows
great greatness when he says it, you know.
Speaker 16 (28:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And he was The thing about Marvin again, was you know,
to me, he embodies the spirit of where I grew up,
you know, Brockton. It's resilience, its overcoming adversity. He wasn't
an insider in the boxing game. He wasn't with Don
King of bar He was an outsider, and so were
his train.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Is, local trainers, the Petronelles.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And they fought against that very corrupt machine and there's
there's some great stuff in the book. I could talk
about it all day, but suffice to say, Ted Kennedy
and Tip O'Neil had to step in to help Marvin
while his title shot. That's how corrupt it was.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
And the most ripped person I've ever seen in my life.
And that's before all the crazy stuff that people are.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You know, this is going to be another great movie.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I think, so, you know. And Sam Rockwell optioned the
rights to it, as you said, and I've been working
with him, and we've actually brought on Rosie Perez as
a was amazing and I'm doing an event with Rosie
in New York on July sixteenth at a great bookstore
on Brooklyn called Powerhouse Arena. There you go, and Sam
wants to play Goodye Petronelli and hit me great at
it because Goody was such a quirky yeah, you know,
(29:45):
wearing headbands and yeah, see dressed up in the seventies garb.
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
And before we say goodbye, you're going to be doing
the book your podcast at least.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Yeah, So Dave will be on our podcast this weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
So happy you guys have me in. I love the show.
Fellow Milton Night. Lisa. He Billy, I love your work,
been following you for years.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Thanks, thank you very much, and you could be one
of the best dressed writers I've ever seen. And I
mean that with the greatest respect. I got to thank
my wife for that wearing. By the way, never mind
forget I have.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
So we just had Dave Wedge as the number two
moment talking about how he's writing a book on Karen Reid.
And you will never guess who is the number one moment. Hey,
it's producer Riley from Billy and Lisa in the Morning.
And Billy gave a call to Karen Reid's lawyer, Robert
Alessi after they had met at the Greasy Poll of
all places. It's number one.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Good morning, Counselor, Alessie.
Speaker 17 (30:40):
Good morning, Billy, and it's great to be on the
Billy and Lisa Morning Show.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Now that clip we just played from the courtroom, Counselor,
did that bring back memories? And did you know you
hit kind of a home run there?
Speaker 17 (30:54):
The answer is yes, it brought back memories. And I
usually leave it to others as to whether I've hit
a home run or not, but I at a minimum
felt that I effectively had entered into the deep impeachment
and ultimate destruction of mister Burgess as one of the
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key witnesses for the prosecution.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Boys said, just like a lawyer.
Speaker 17 (31:22):
That happens every once in a while when I talk.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Yeah, So, Lisa, you had a couple of questions.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
From Robert Well the impact of having Proctor's texts allowed
into the testimony without actually having to call Proctor.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
How important?
Speaker 14 (31:36):
Was that?
Speaker 17 (31:37):
It was very important? And there was a lot of
behind the scenes jockeying about that, the prosecution trying to
force us to call former Trooper Proctor to the stand,
and we thought it in our client, Miss Reid's best
interest that he not be called and the text be read.
(31:58):
And when we achieved that result, and thanks to David Yanetti,
my co consul, who did an excellent job on the
of an injury issues on that, when we got the
judges ruling that the text could be read, we knew
that that was a very significant positive result for Miss read.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Well, especially I mean once Procter was fired. I mean,
you know, it kind of shines a weird light on
the case, right, Oh.
Speaker 17 (32:27):
It certainly does. And Billy, in addition to shining a
weird light. I think it really sent the appropriate message
to the jury that this was the lead investigator. I
thought it was a big mistake that the prosecution never
called the lead investigator, and the fact that he was,
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as you astutely point out, was fired. If I'm a juror,
that is a huge red flag to me. And he
was fired for his conduct on this Karen Reid investigation,
not some other case. So I think all of that
led to a very very significant point for the jurors
(33:12):
to consider in their deliberations.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Now, were you and the rest of the legal team
were you surprised by the following that this case picked
up not only locally, regionally, but nationally.
Speaker 17 (33:27):
I was not part of the first trial. I was
obviously a major part of the second trial. So when
I came in on the second trial, it was already
a huge following. I was not surprised, but I was
surprised at the degree to which it had a following.
And there's a variety of theories as to why that occurred,
(33:49):
but I was certainly surprised, and I will add heartened
with the following because people took a significant issue shoe
A shoe significant interest in the many concerning issues. A
lot of what happened to miss Read could happen to anybody,
(34:09):
and so in that regard, I was not surprised overall,
but the depth and the extent and the breadth of it,
this was worldwide, millions of people watching it worldwide. That
surprised me that it went that far internationally.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Now, a story broke this week that Karen and Alan
Jackson are partnering on a book and a movie deal.
Are you part of that?
Speaker 17 (34:38):
I am not able to comment on that topic. I'm
just not able to do that. With all apologies to
you and your listeners, it's a topic that I can't
comment on.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
You know, you were listening the other night when you
and I were hanging out, I said, if there's something
that's uncomfortable, say I can't go there.
Speaker 17 (34:59):
Yes, you're very gracious about that, and that's an area.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
But who would you want to have play you in
a movie or a TV series.
Speaker 17 (35:08):
Billy Costa.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
That we have some questions here from our audience.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Tony Alessi, Hi, this is for Attorney Alessie.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
First of all, love your team, love love listening to
your interviews. Just want to know if you think it's
going to be a game changer in the civil case
when they allow the evidence that wasn't allowed in the
criminal case to come out. Just wondering your.
Speaker 16 (35:36):
Opinion, counselor your answer, Well, the short answer is the
civil case has different standards, different approaches, and what evidence
a different judge, and I suspect it's going to be
a different judge will allow is to be determined.
Speaker 17 (35:55):
My hope is that in the civil case that there
is more evidence that's allowed to come in. It's also
a different standard of proof, so there's a lot of
different factors. But I'm hopeful that there will be more
information that comes in in that trial. And whether or
(36:16):
not that information becomes a game changer remains to be seen.
But I'm hopeful for that case to the extent it
does end up going to a trial, I'm hopeful that
it does come in and become a game changer.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Robert, I know you're in New York. Are you already
working another case?
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (36:33):
Yes, yeah, I've got several cases, some of which I
put on hold for this, But i have a very
active caseload and great clients and great matters, and I'm
already reimmersed in those and I've had several phone calls
for new matters, so I'm back in full swing in
New York.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Well, Robert, hopefully you and I can hang out again
in the Cape Ann region of Massachusetts.
Speaker 17 (37:01):
That would be delightful. I enjoyed our time together and
it would be great if we could do that again.
I hope to get up there this summer again.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
All right, Well, you always welcome on the Billy and
Lisa Morning Show. Thank you for taking time out. I
know you're very busy in New York.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
All right, Well, that's going to do it for the
Top five Moments of the week's producer Riley from Billy
and Lisa in the Morning. We will be back on Monday,
and we still have that one thousand dollars the summer
vac payday at nine ten. I hope everybody had a
great fourth of July. I hope everybody is recovering from
the hot Dog hangover. The Kiss Top thirty Countdown with
Billy and Justin is coming up. But I hope everybody
(37:37):
enjoys the rest of their weekend. Have a good one, guys,
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