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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the Best a billion Lisa in the Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey guys, good morning, Happy Saturday. Welcome into the Best
of Billy and Lisa in the Morning. It's producer Riley
and today we are celebrating new Edition day, so we
had Michael Divins on the show to reminisce and tell us.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
All about it.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Just too amazing.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Do you still have the dance moves?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Michael?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I think we do. Our precision is never going to
leave us. That's actually what makes us great that we
give the audience what they're used to seeing from when
we were fifteen and sixteen. We just do it with
a cooler, cooler move now because we're fifty plus's.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Look, and you guys are kind of scattered around. Are
you all on the West Coast now or.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
No? There's four are on the West Coast. Ronnie's in Atlanta,
and I'm here in Boston and Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
There you go. You're in Boston right now, Michael.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Absolutely, I'm on. You know, Columbus hid right here about
to make a move in the store and get me
a mint tea at Dunkin Donuts. How do you guys
doing this one? Did you get to Uber East Breakfast?
I think as the guys showed up yet.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Absolutely and it is delicious. Thank you so much, Michael.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Justin, Yeah, Mike, I was he mentioned the dance moves.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Mike.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I was watching reruns of The Fresh Prince of bell
Are the other day. In the episode where you guys
were on and Will kept interrupting the video shoot. I
went on YouTube and watched it like thirty times.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Justin and I were watching together and we're laughing hysterically.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
He keeps dancing in the video shoot.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
That's one of the famous belb Debo TV shows. I
think I had on the Cat and the hat at yep.
You know, we would dip into a being successful and
TV wanted us. And you know what was that Whitley,
the sister that was my buddy on the shows.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
It was fun man. My kids and everybody watched the
reruns as well.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
So, when you think back, Michael, the new edition the
bell BIV Devo experiences, do you have one or two
favorite moments of the whole journey?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And you know, honestly, I think the Walker fame. Yeah,
you know, when we got the Hollywood Walker fame. That
was a prelude to the TV mini series getting twenty
nine million viewers. Because when we did The Walker Fame
my Monday, January sixteenth, twenty seventeen, you know, the Hollywood
(02:22):
Chamber of Commerce said that this is the most people
that's ever been on Hollywood Boulevard and it was poor
and raining, so a lot of the girls that got
their head done really had a rough outing.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Of that don't do well in the rain.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, nothing would deny them. And remember Michael Jackson, there's
a lot of stars on that boulevard. There's a lot
of other musical stars, and for them to say that
about us, there's a testament to the any for life
is our fans. And then the movie coming out the
next day twenty nine million. Yeah, and I'm happy you
ask that because I think there's only one other thing.
(03:01):
Because the ward is in the ward right, everyone can
get in the warld. If you have a great album
of people feel sorry for you, but a street naming
in your hood, it's something totally different. I think that
my next moment will be the trilogy to the Hollywood Star,
to the movie coming out on BT and then getting
(03:22):
the street name and Saturday. I think that is all
moved into one situation.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yeah, that's tomorrow they're gonna rename Dearborn Street to New
Addition Way. Do you have a special story, a special
connection to Dearborn Street? Is that why that was chosen?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Well, the gymnasium right there used to be called the
Ultra Park Recreation Center and that's where Bobby Ricky Ralpherd
myself met. So it's like going back home on you know,
the most beautiful property, which was the projects that looked
really gorgeous to us, maybe looked at it a little
crazy to other people, but that Gymnasium is like, you know,
(03:59):
the golden nugget to our existence is where we played basketball,
where we went as Project kids, and where we had
the idea to start a group.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yeah, in your very first music video, weren't you guys
playing basketball at one of the playgrounds?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
That was cool it Now that was kind of like
the next album. What we were doing in the very
first video came to Go. We was at an ice
cream shop, We was at the train station in the
Horns line. We were at the hat sheheld down here,
you know by stereo drive. We were in some we
were dancing up and down Commonwealth aves like we were
just picking all of these locations, and the director just
(04:35):
put it together and made it look really Boston. But
then we started doing the basketball stuff as we got
into the Cool It Now video. That's when that video came.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Now, are all the guys going to be in town
for tomorrow's big day?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I think everyone's landing. They're coming with their families, They
got their sprinters. Everyone feels like a rock star. Anything
it's cool. Everything is cool. I'm cool. I feel like
a rockstar.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Here.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I'm up early and got my dunkin Donuts waiting for
kiss one the way. Baby, we're setting it off.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
There we go, man, there we go go. Now the
block party tomorrow, what's that going.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
To be like, Well, that's probably going to be the
kids giving on backpacks and probably people dancing. There's other
setups around there. I think they're gonna have some bouncy
stuff out there. That's kind of like what we used
to do on the project. You know, the DJ will
come out play the music. Yeah, people will go get
dressed as if they're going downtown, but they're just going
right back outside their building. And you're staying there and
(05:33):
you look cool and dancing. The girls look at the guys.
The guys look at the girls and it's.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Just a community thing.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
It's just some music, conversation, people catching up and get
something to eat. And then you know, everyone dispersed because
there's other great things going on tomorrow. And then it
ends with the reception, which we're calling the Sneaker Ball.
Right back in the same area, Bernie and Hall.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I got to tell you, Michael, sitting here talking to
you and reliving all these stories, videos are going through
my head and the experiences you guys have had all
over the world. You've done so much for the city
of Boston, and this city could not be more proud
of you, guys. So congratulations. This is so well deserved.
New Edition Day in the City of Boston tomorrow, Buddy.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And you know what, Ronnie says, new Addition way, And
there's no other way. We said that did it, but
the new Addition way.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
There you go with me, man, Michael, We love it, Buddy,
Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Bobby, Ricky, Mike, Ralph and Johnny sins. I love. If
it isn't love, why do I feel this way?
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Love?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You kiss one away?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Lovey right back, Michael Vivins.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's the best of Billy and Lisa in the morning.
I'm producer Riley, and you guys know that we love
when people reach out to us with crazy stories. Even
better is when they give us an update. It's number four.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Good morning, morning crew.
Speaker 10 (06:52):
I have a crazy story and I'd love to discuss
it with you guys. I called in many years ago
about this and Lisa was super nice about it. The
plot has thickened. I was created via sperm donation, and
I just recently found my sister's sperm dad because we
had different ones, and there's a lot of drama going
on within that family now. But I only listened to
the seven in the morning since that's when I get
(07:12):
to work.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
So let me know if I should call in, which
is why we wanted to get it in before seven o'clock.
And now Sammy is calling in. Sammy you there, Hi?
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Yeah, good morning everyone.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Well, good morning Sammy. We have so many questions a Lisa,
you want to start.
Speaker 11 (07:27):
Okay, Sammy, I remember when you called in years ago,
and I knew a family that had a similar situation
where the two girls had different dads because they were
a product of a sperm doning situation. So your situation
is that your sister has a different father than you,
but she was able to through DNA testing, find out
(07:48):
who her dad was.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Correct.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Yeah, okay, so and then you said that there was
some sort of situation with that family of.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
The dad drama. We want to know about the drama?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Yeah, well yeah, so we found out in twenty nineteen
because I started getting really interested in our family history
and I asked for Christmas for a DNA test and
my parents didn't get it for me, and I was like,
come on, this was the cheapest thing on my list here,
and so I did the test. My parents were like,
(08:21):
all right, we need to sit you down, and I
was like, oh boy. And basically they just told us
that my dad has assistic fibrosis gene so he couldn't
have children. So they used the firm donor for my sister,
but then that that donor removed his firm from the bank,
so they had to use a different one for me.
And so I was interested in learning about what my
(08:45):
dad looked like, and really that's all I cared about
was what he looked like and any medical issues that
maybe he had or something, just like to have that
for reference. And my sister had no interest in learning
about her, but of course I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Know the busybody.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
We did these tests.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
We did these tests many years ago, and on her
DNA test, it showed up that she had two half sisters.
But DNA is like very interesting because you don't always know,
like it could say that they're a half sister, but
they could be something else. So recently I decided to
dive back into it, and I looked on her thing
(09:24):
and it said that this person was a half sister.
But I soon realized that this was actually her grandmother.
So when I realized it was her grandmother, I mean,
it's so easy to do this stuff, Like people don't realize.
You just look up their obituary and you see all
of the family members that are still around, and then
you can make your family trees. And basically I found her.
(09:47):
There were three sons from that woman, And basically I
reached out to this girl that was one of the
guy's daughters and I said, hey, listen, my sister was
conceived via sperm donation, and we're just kind of kind
of trying to figure out like was it your dad
or was it one of your uncles? Blah blah blah,
and I sent her a screenshot of the description and
(10:10):
she was like, uh, that's my dad. So basically we
found out that she is a half sister of my sister.
So so she took it really well. She's a really
nice girl. She's a little bit younger than me, and
she said she's she's so interested, but her sister not
(10:33):
too much. She's very mad at me. She actually sent
me a pretty angry message this morning and then unsent it,
so I know that she's upset. And so I reached
out to that girl, the other girl again, and I
was like, listen once again, I'm so sorry, like and
she was just like, no, my sister's just really sensitive
to this stuff, like just don't worry about it, like
(10:55):
she'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, what about the dad. Where is he?
Speaker 7 (10:59):
So so they live in Virginia. These people are all
over the place.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
They were spread their sperm all over the place, their.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Seed, Yeah, spreading it everywhere. So he is really I
mean he basically told the daughter like listen, yeah that happened,
Like he was open and honest about it when she asked,
and he was just like, we were going to tell
you eventually, but like we did remove it once we
wanted to start having a family, which all makes sense
why we couldn't use it for me.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Now, do you have a relationship at all with your
sperm dad?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
No?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
So I did find his phone number from my pages
back in twenty nineteen. You can find anything, guys. The
internet is crazy. But I did reach out to him
and I basically told him like, thank you for you know, donating,
like there are like nine of us, there's a bunch
of children of yours running around, but thank you for donating,
(11:58):
and like, I just want to keep your phone number
in case I ever have like a medical question. And
he definitely was not as interested as I was at
the time, But I kind of understand why. I know,
we're just we're just connection.
Speaker 11 (12:10):
So I understand the medical stuff. I would I would
want to know too. I would want to know everything
about my medical history. But I have a question about
paternity situations, like do these sperm donors do they are
they protected from any sort of financial obligation to the
children that they've fathered.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Right, So it's it's tricky, I believe. I mean, I
don't know if a sperm child could in fact go
after their sperm doud and say give me money or
something if they find them. But a lot of these
donors back in the day donated and they didn't think
that anyone would find them.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
They Yeah, now that's we would.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Put on their saying that we do not want to
be contacted, we want to remain anonymous, we do not
want to be part of their lives. So now with
the DNA, like anyone can find any one. It's it's
pretty crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
It's Jammy, I'm going to caution you, but Winnie has
a question.
Speaker 12 (13:05):
It's actually not weird. What do your parents and your
sister think of you doing all this? Because I feel
like the three of them are probably just like.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They it was, you know, aren't we enough? Yeah, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Right, So my mom loved it. He won't admit it,
but she she loves it. She's always asking me questions.
She's like, I can't believe you found this and this
and this, and she finds it very interesting. Obviously, my
dad is weird about it. I mean like, I'm sure
he feels awkward. But the guy waited nineteen years to
(13:37):
tell me that this even happened. So I'm gonna do
my own reason.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Guy always the guy.
Speaker 11 (13:44):
But you have to put yourself in your shoes, Like
if that happened to mean, I would absolutely want to
know my father was, or at least find out some information.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
But I guess to the point, and my dad is
my dad, like he is my dad. I like he
will always be my dad.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
That's just the.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
Genetic find it so fascinating.
Speaker 12 (14:01):
Well, I can see is I can honestly see aside
though I feel like with men, it's more prideful like
that he couldn't obviously produce children, And that's probably what
it is more than anything. You know, it's not situation
where it was like a lesbian couple or you know,
a gay couple it was.
Speaker 11 (14:15):
But I think it's good like for like you said,
for medical reasons and then if you have children too.
It's just sort of you want to have as much
information as possible.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Sammy, I gotta ask you have a job or something
because you seem very This takes a lot of time,
doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
I know, I really should like switch careers.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean, hey, it's producer Riley from Billy and Lisa
in the Morning. Can I down the top five moments
of the week with you? Let's get right into number three,
because there's big news coming from the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Hey, sports fans, you may have missed this yesterday, but
the Patriots signed quarterback Tommy DeVito yesterday, picking them up
on Yeah, he picked them up on waivers from the Giants.
And don't forget his agent is Sean Stolado from Salem, Massachusetts,
and he had this viral with the Manning brothers last year.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Look at the Vito.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Who is this guy he's talking to?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, look whatever you need, I got you. I'll take
care of it, all right.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Come on, Hey, that's that's his agent.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Of course, that's his agent.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Come on, tell me to Vito's agent, what's in the back,
what's in the bag?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
What's in what's in the back?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Cutlass some cudless But later, you know, it looks like Mom,
looks like it looks like Johnny Fontaine and the Godfather.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And we've got Sean Stillado on the phone. Sean one question,
what was in the bag?
Speaker 13 (15:32):
You know what?
Speaker 14 (15:33):
And a good Italian will never disclose grandma's secret.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Saws.
Speaker 14 (15:38):
I did have a book for John Tish, but it's funny.
I ran into Eli a couple of times at the
Robinhood event in Manhattan and I disclosed that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And then we did a.
Speaker 14 (15:47):
Little collab with the Red Bulls earlier I say, late summer,
which was fun.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But he's a great dude.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I got to ask you, Sean, where were you What
were you doing when you got to call on de
Vito yesterday?
Speaker 14 (16:00):
It was the best twentieth anniversary gift I could have gone.
I was actually with my wife in Salem on Derby
Wharf having a little salad and I was on the lab.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I was you know, he got cut.
Speaker 14 (16:13):
I went to work in Tuesday, I mean Monday all
the way and you know, Tuesday, late morning, and then
I said, hey, I got a We wouldn't find out
anything if he was going to get cleaned till one o'clock.
So I have a video of me on the beach.
You know, I let out kind of a rod Tisdale scream, Jerry.
Speaker 15 (16:33):
You know, I thought he was looking at me like
I was not.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
My wife got it on camera, which was great.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
So that's a big day for you as the agent.
You have other clients though, too, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I do. I got to start in safety for the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 14 (16:50):
He Fontu Malafano, Massachusetts, Grafton Boy, third round pick Chris
Manherts the year twelve with the Giants, Andrew de Poler,
all pro long snapper.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
He was kind of.
Speaker 14 (16:59):
My, my, my, what is it? Fish from Jerry maguire,
my first born and then I've got yeah, I got
guys in probably about ten different markets. Super excited for
Tommy though. Homecoming. This is it's almost surreal. Having fourteen
players that won Super Bowls and having a great relationship
with the organization. It's it's been a lot of fun
(17:20):
to kind of witness this happen.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
So did you get calls on any of the other
clients yesterday?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It was roster day, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
It was.
Speaker 14 (17:28):
You know, eleven hundred and eighty four players had to
be caught by four pm yesterday and I was able
to place a couple of guys back, which was good.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But it was definitely a bloodbath on Monday.
Speaker 14 (17:40):
And these guys putting so much time and effort and
energy and it's their dream and me being the bridge
for that dream.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It hurts my heart.
Speaker 14 (17:49):
But we were able to, you know, crawl from the
abyss and you know, I was on the phone with
the Patriots multiple times and the coach Rabel to Elliott
Wolf and they were great, and yeah, it all worked out.
Yet my other guys are placed and they're happy, and
a couple on practice squads, which look at you, one
play away from being on the active ross there.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I got to tell you something, Sean. Tommy DeVito lit
up the Patriots last week. He had three touchdown passes.
Speaker 15 (18:15):
He did play really well against the Patriots, and I
think that's something look at. He was the first worky
quarterback to beat Bill Belichick. Wow, this almost happened two
years ago, and you know, obviously we couldn't reach, you know,
something that was palatable, and he stayed in New York and.
Speaker 14 (18:31):
Now they got to give it to the Patriots. They
saw the value in him and being have an opportunity,
you know. Josh McDaniels. Coach McDaniels, I mean, he was
great with Brady in terms of developing him and a
lot of other great quarterbacks. Coach Rabel, who's the players coach?
I mean, obviously the ownership group, the Patriot way. I'm
really excited for the young man.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You know, there was a lot of talk about Tommy
DeVito playing for the Giants when he lived right up
the Street and it was a very cool story. What
are his parents thinking about him coming into England, coming
here to play for the Patriots.
Speaker 14 (19:02):
Mom has already started making coutlets, freezing them for his
for his freezer uh so trades.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But there, you know, they're super excited. Dad told me
five times he loved me last night. They're going to
be up here a lot. They'll be up here opening
game against the Raiders. And you know it's about a
four hour ride. Uh, probably a little less.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
His dad got a heavy foot, but uh you know
he's he's.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
In town now.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
And what you're saying is not for nutting billy, but
his dad's got a heavy boy, you know what I'm.
Speaker 14 (19:29):
Saying, mister the beato. And you know he obviously grabbed
my cheek. He gave me the kiss that was heard
of felt around the world. He's they're a great family
and they've got so much passion and sitting with them
and just the excitement last Thursday night seeing what he.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Did was great, you know. And that's a position.
Speaker 14 (19:48):
And look at a lot of a lot of organizations
get it wrong, and you know, it's tough from being
in my shoes watching some of these guys get you know,
trade fifth round picks for certain quarterbacks and guys getting selected.
But at the end of the day, he's right where
he belongs. And yeah, there was a lot of tears
shit in New York Lahfice yesterday.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, with him leaving.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
And the good news for Tommy is, you know, coming here.
If he runs out of his mother's cutlets, he can
hit my mother's cutlets in the North End.
Speaker 14 (20:16):
You know, I've been Yeah, we've been exchanging a little Instagram,
so hopefully there's going to be some of collab there.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Oh yeah, that's an automatic collab my mother's cutlets, Nikki
Verano and uh and and the de Vedo family, and
you're be part of the deal, Shoan.
Speaker 14 (20:30):
Yeah, I guess we got to get cutlets on the
menu a jellette, right.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Oh, absolutely, you got to.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Well, you know what, it's a perfect time for my
mother's cutlets from the North End to put a place
at Patriot Place.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm just saying, I agree, we got to do it.
Speaker 14 (20:46):
We got to try those cutlets all Billy, I think
we got to bring you guys down there as well.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Uh Sean, We're happy for you. Our congratulations both to
you and to Tommy and to Tommy's family, and we
look forward to Tommy arriving uh here for you're New
England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Thanks Sean from juror to part of Karen Reid's legal team,
to being a guest on the Billy and Lisa in
the Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Hey, it's producer.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Riley and I'm counting down the top five moments of
the week with you. Let's get right into number two.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Okay, this is going to be so cool.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I'm very excited about the guests we have in studio
right now. Her name is Victoria Brophy George. Now we've
done a certain amount on the Karen Reid trial on
the Billy and Lisa Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
We weren't obsessed.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Well maybe we were, but Victoria Brophy George was on
the jury for the first trial and then somehow landed
on Karen's legal team for the second trial.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
And good morning Victoria.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Good morning everyone.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Now I must say at the outset, I'm a little
intimidated by your presence. Yeah, because I'm reading up on you.
Graduate Phillips Academy, Princeton University, cum laude, Northeastern University Law School.
You are so over educated for me, like, I'm just terrified,
but I.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
Also have to say, you're the mother of four children
under the age of six. Yeah, I like that to
me is like even more otherworldly.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (22:08):
I was just about to say that was that's all
much harder.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
Than any of the education. And you gotta set of twins, yes,
identical twin boys.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Got they need a new term for a personality type
a something else, something.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Like it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
But I got to know, how did you land on
the legal team for trial?
Speaker 13 (22:31):
To so I was an alternature, but I was friends
with some of the deliberating jurors. I heard what happened
in the deliberation room to some degree, and I so
I had reached out to the legal team after the
first after the outcome of the first trial, Uh, just
to give them my feedback and let them know what happened, and.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Just we kind of kept talking.
Speaker 13 (22:54):
Yeah, I gave them some feedback on strategy and what
I thought the jury maybe didn't understand what they could
do better, et cetera.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
One thing led to another. I made a joke that's
essentially how this all started.
Speaker 13 (23:05):
A joke like has it ever joined a legal team
in a retrial and the rest is kind of history.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Wow, So everybody wants to know what's Karen really like.
Speaker 13 (23:15):
I mean, she's a very strong and she's an intense person,
and I think she's incredibly strong, and I think that
she's done an amazing job getting through all this.
Speaker 11 (23:23):
And yeah, wow, that's what David Ynetti said when he
came in this past week. Yeah, he said she was
integral part of what you all did.
Speaker 13 (23:35):
Yeah, she's very smart, and I think it's it's rare
to have a client who's as smart and invested it
as she is.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
You know, it was just learned earlier this morning that
actress Elizabeth Banks is going to play Karen Reid in
a new series for Prime Video. Who do you think
should play you?
Speaker 9 (23:53):
I mean, I'm a very small piece of this puzzle.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
We don't think so because you did that and everything
else that you do.
Speaker 13 (24:01):
I mean, why not Taylor Swift? I mean she's everywhere.
I love Taylor Swift.
Speaker 15 (24:06):
We do too.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But you're a bona fide listener of this radio show.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
I am.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Yeah, since I was in middle school.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Wow, all that intelligence and you listen to us.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
That's so impressive.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
So I remember Victoria, she used to communicate with us
all the time. And then I didn't realize it, but
she just kind of went away about three years ago,
and I didn't I had no idea that she was
on the jerry or anything, but I didn't realize all
that until she reached back out now. So she couldn't
listen because she was on the jury in the first trial,
she couldn't communicate any of that stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yeah, you said off the air we were talking before
you came in the studio, that you missed the two
months you couldn't listen to us because you were the jury.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
I did.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (24:48):
I was really very strict about the rules. It made
me very nervous. At one point even reported myself for
seeing a billboard. So I did not watch the news,
I did not listen to the radio.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
I stayed very very much to the rules.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
In terms of the trial and your job with Trial
number two, what was your responsibility? Did you have a
specialty that was your assignment specifically?
Speaker 13 (25:12):
So I can't really speak to a lot of the
strategy and all those those kinds of things. I mean,
my primary role was kind of to be brought in
as a jury consultant, and otherwise I was mostly behind
the scenes.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Really, I think you're understating it.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I think you were much more valuable to the team.
Speaker 11 (25:28):
The thing that I love hearing about and again with
David A Andetti and Alan Jackson is that they were open.
They talked to a lot of people. They you know,
you reached out to them and they responded, And I
feel like it made for a really good sort of
second trial team, don't you think.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
I mean, I think it's rare to get the kind
of access to the jury that perhaps the defense cut
here right, and I think that would definitely helpful. I mean,
juries and jury selection are so fascinating to me. I've
actually been on three juries at this point. Really, I'm
hoping at some point to maybe like to some kind
of jury consulting.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
But I'm a little busy at the moment.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
We're talking to Victoria and Brophy George, who was a
jura on Karen Reid's first trial and became a member
of the illegal team in the second trial.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Do you stay in touch with Karen so?
Speaker 9 (26:17):
I have not.
Speaker 13 (26:17):
I actually don't represent her anymore, similar to what David said,
but you know, I wish her all the best and
I'm very happy with the outcome in June.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Call me crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Isn't Karen Reid possibly going to be in this building today?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
She's doing Howikar at two o'clock with Alan Jackson. It's
going to be her first real interview after being found
not guilty.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Well, you want to hang around Victoria, you just get
on the hall and make it a threesome, so to speak,
you Alan and Karen.
Speaker 13 (26:45):
Yeah, I don't know anything about that specifically, but I
mean I'm glad. I mean, I'm glad to hear that
she's she's speaking. I think she's really well positioned to
help in the criminal justice reform space. I mean, I
think the outcome in her case is good, but I
think that there's a lot more work that needs to
be done.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
So David Ynetti, we had him on Monday and he
talked about the moment when she was found not guilty
and he actually cried. So can you talk about what
your reaction was when the verdict came down.
Speaker 13 (27:11):
I was just so thrilled and relieved. I mean, I
think ever since the first trial ended and the way
that it did, I was just like kept hoping that
things would resolve. I hoped that maybe they wouldn't pursue
the charges again, especially once it became clear that perhaps
the jury really had been unanimous to acquit and did'
understand the rules. And it just seemed like the Norfolk
County District Attorney just continued to double down hiring new prosecutors.
(27:35):
And the more it just kept going that way, I
got more and more disillusioned. And that's where I got
to the point where I felt like I had to
help in a more meaningful way.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Did you cry at the verdict?
Speaker 9 (27:45):
I believe I did.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Actually, Yeah, so two twins while twins too, and all
four children under six?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yep, you're a superhero. And all I know is if
I get in trouble again, God forbid, I know who
I'm calling for.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
A lawyer. There's such a good lawyer.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yeah that by tomorrow morning, you're going to be working
in Alaska.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yes, so a dress warm.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah, leave us some business conference because you know, at
any moment one of us could be charged with something.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Probably me.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh, you guys know, I was excited to talk about
this one.
Speaker 16 (28:18):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's producer Riley from Billy and Lisa in the Morning,
cutting down the top five moments of the week with
you Number one, of course, has to go to my girl,
Taylor Swift, who's engaged to Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 17 (28:29):
Like, literally, why am I crying listening to Love Story
and the fact.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
That, like someone just finally said to.
Speaker 17 (28:35):
Sir, this is what she's in writing abound she was fifteen,
sixteen years old and like finally, like someone just said
this like to her, Like I'm literally emotional and I
don't even know this person, but like we're so emotionally invested,
Like I'm so happy.
Speaker 18 (28:52):
For her, Like, oh my god, wow, amazing.
Speaker 11 (29:05):
It gives me the chills, it really does.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Yeah, And you know it's weird that talkbacker and her
emotions had producer Riley crying all over again.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
In her studio.
Speaker 19 (29:15):
I feel exactly the same as Riley. When I found
out that Taylor got engaged, it felt like a family
member had gotten engaged. I think I was more excited.
I am more excited for Taylor Swift than I would
be for myself. We've followed her from the beginning, and
just to see her so happy and to see this
all play out, it's very exciting.
Speaker 12 (29:38):
That's an insane statement that she's more she'd be more
happy for you.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
But I believe she believes it.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yeah, yeah, what about being more excited for that engagement
than your own.
Speaker 16 (29:49):
I think I texted more people for Taylor's engagement than
I did with my own. I'm just so excited for her.
As someone who's been a long time fan since before
or her first album came out, it's just so exciting
to see her happy. Everyone has read about her love
life and her music and her headlines, but this is
really the first relationship that she's fully shared with her fans,
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and I think that's why everyone's just so invested.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
Yeah, I completely agree. And also to mention, Travis Kelsey
is a great guy.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
He is just he seems he seems like.
Speaker 11 (30:22):
A really solid human being, solid family, fun family.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (30:28):
I think they're gonna have a great time together.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
And it's more believable to me now that he lost
the porn mustache, you know what I mean, it was
kind of freaked out by that.
Speaker 12 (30:36):
It's just well, I think it was interesting how everything
kind of played out. The year before this happened, or
a few months before it happened, the Kelsey family was
in the spotlight because you had two brothers against each other,
so we got to know Jason and their mom and
their dad, so you already kind of like they were
America's football family. And then you have America's biggest songwriter
singer and they're both like mid you know, Pennsylvania, Ohio,
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like mill American.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
People, Like I don't know.
Speaker 12 (31:02):
I just feel like it literally may makes that that's
a very good point.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
I just feel like they are best friends. Like you
can just they just emote that energy, right.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I always think back to about, you know, before they
hooked up, we played the sound of Travis telling the
story of getting turned away at Arrowhead showed up that
he was going to go to her dressing room, and
we all laughed about it, like Okay, Travis, like he
had no shot.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
And that's a really cool part of their story.
Speaker 11 (31:28):
He had his little friendship bracelet he's going to give
to us.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah, all years she turned him away, never in a
million years to go away. Yeah, it's just crazy.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
So I had my family group chat, text me, my
college friends, text me, my cousin group chat, text me,
my coworker, text me that Taylor was engaged. Almost like
one of my best friends or a family member had
a low dirt got engaged.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Insane.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
God, what is the wedding going to be?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Like people are disconnected and emotional about the engagement, the proposal.
Speaker 12 (32:05):
I feel like they got engaged in Missouri. Like I
feel like it's just going to be, you know, whether
get they get married, you know, in Kansas City or Nashville.
I don't think it's going to be this you know, extravagant,
like five hundred person wedding.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Maybe a small affair at the Christmas Tree farm that
she grew up on with a vintage dress.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, that's a good question. Is it going to be
you know, his home state, her home state. She does
have a house on Rhode Island. That's beautiful, that's really it's.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
A beautiful home Inland that is a gorgeous And will
it be televised?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Oh god, no, this is a legit royal wedding.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
No, no, no, no, I'm still sticking with the Super
Bowl performance.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I am too.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
That's a possibility, that's definite.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Pot get married at halftime.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
There you go.
Speaker 19 (32:56):
My theory is that she's pregnant and the sour dough
she was talking about Israeli a baby and it's going
to be a shotgun wedding.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Well, she kept mentioning sourdough during the New Heights episode,
which was kind of weird. Well, that's actually so. I
don't know if you know this, but the mascot for
the forty nine ers, where the next super Bowl will
be played in San Francisco, is a sour dough.
Speaker 14 (33:20):
I know.
Speaker 12 (33:20):
Actually I thought was the weirdest thing that that's the name.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Of That's what God was thinking.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Maybe she's hinting at the super Bowl halftime show because
she kept mentioning sour dough and it's the mascot, right,
oh y.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yi oh man, it's just the beginning of this. Let
me tell you how about that ring?
Speaker 16 (33:35):
Do anyone think that the engagement ring looks a little
bit like a super Bowl ring?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Just a little bit?
Speaker 12 (33:42):
No, no, no, no, no no, it looks like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Super Bowl rings are like gaudy, and.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Think I always think of Brady, you know that picture
of him rings, and they're giant.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
I'm so happy for Travis and Taylor and I love
her Ring, but I am really sick of people criticizing
her ring.
Speaker 9 (34:05):
Girl, we don't need your opinion. Her Ring is in
your tax bracket.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
You're never going to have one that looks anything close
to hers.
Speaker 11 (34:12):
Very true, very true.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
No I said the ringing.
Speaker 12 (34:17):
I just said, she clearly her nails are not That's
all I said.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
I see that's what her nails were painted like a
pale pink.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I think it's clear. They were clear.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I zoomed in it was flesh color.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Well, what you meant was you like colorful names, not even.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Just that you can know that they're done. That's just all.
Speaker 12 (34:32):
It could have been white, could have been pale pink,
but it was just looking flesh colored.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Justin I think the very first talk packer you played
tells the real story, tells the whole story. People's reactions
to this, how emotional that talkbacker was blew my mind.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Oh you're talking about the woman crying? Yeah, literally crying
like literally because we played love story, you know, in
honor of the engaged a few minutes ago.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Why am I crying listening a love story and the
fact that like someone just finally said this.
Speaker 17 (35:00):
To her, this is what she's been writing about. She
was fifteen, sixteen years old, Yeah, and like finally, like
someone just says this like to her, Like I'm literally
emotional and I don't even know this person's but like
we're so emotionally invested, like I'm so happy.
Speaker 11 (35:16):
For her, Like, well, that's because it symbolizes hope and
it symbolizes that love does really exist.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Yeah, well you were gushing on Instagram miss because.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I was so happy.
Speaker 11 (35:29):
I'm so happy for them. Yeah, legitimately, and.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
When you made a good point, I think the fact
that the Kelsey brothers were as big as they were
leading up to the engagement between Travis and Taylor, I
think that played a big part in it as well.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Also, I'm not I'm ammnutally not as swifty.
Speaker 12 (35:45):
I don't mind her, like I like some of her music,
but I'm not like you know, over and above, and
I feel like growing up though, like I remember when
I was in middle school, Like she's dropped her first
few songs and like, literally, like my whole existence has
been Taylor swift Way singing about love that you can
relate to, whether it's heartbreak or whatever. So now she's
in her mid thirties and she finally gets what she's
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been writing about and what we all want, most of
us want.
Speaker 11 (36:09):
Like that to me is because every every story about
her was the bad break up.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Yeah, the bad boyfriends.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
How it didn't work out?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You know what I love.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
From the beginning, I thought it was a hoxt, a hoax,
and now I'm like so emotional.
Speaker 11 (36:23):
Excited, like this is his eyes are misty.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Yeah, I'm really excited and I thought it was a hoax,
Like how did this happen?
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Still get emotional to go off?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh I can't stand this.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Oh you should hear him in the morning. Yeah, I've
been talking about this, but yeah, congratulations Taylor Swift and
Travis Kelsey soon to be married.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Why are married women heavier than single women?
Speaker 17 (36:49):
Well, single women come home and see what's in the
fridge and then go to bed.
Speaker 12 (36:53):
Married women come home, see what's in bed and go
to the fridge.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Well that's an do it for the top five moments
of the week again, it's producer Riley from Billy and
Lisa in the Morning. Thanks for hanging out with me.
First of all, Happy Labor Day weekend everybody. And when
we come back on Tuesday, we are going to have
last minute Benson Boone tickets at eight ten, and then
we're rolling into last minute tickets for a different concert
that I don't even think I can say yet, So
you just have to stay tuned for that, but coming
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up we have the Kiss Top thirty Countdown with Billy
and Justin, tons of new Sabrina Carpenter, So stay here
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