October 10, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:02):
this is your opportunity.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What up?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
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the keyword is going to be tradition, because that's what
jingle Ball is every single year with kiss one O. Wait,
it's a holiday tradition.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
My kids, my mom and I went down to New
York City this weekend to see Pink perform with Hugh Jackman.
I just recommend that anyone who hasn't seen it yet
check out the performance. It was unbelievable. She performed with Willow,
her daughter, and just watching her growth from even a
couple of years ago while she was on tour is
just insane.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
So anyway, I hope everybody had a great week.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Is Hugh Jackman on tour with Pink?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm not sure. I'll have to look that up. I
did see video of Ping's performance this weekend. But that's
really cool. She's an amazing show. But Wolverine, how cool
is that? Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, I saw the
video on social media. Yeah, she performed at Hugh Jackman's
Greatest Showman in New York.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
It's supposed to be a great show. Yeah, that is good.
Good morning, crew, listening to you from Kafas Beach in Heos, Greece.
Beautiful here, have a great day.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Did you go to Hero's Grease when you and Michelle Ittte?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
No, I went to what was that island of o oh,
the one that I'm trying to the right word to say.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Happened on the island?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No, the I'm not familiar, but the part of Greece
were like kind of like Pee Town.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Oh no, No, I went to an island. It was
right near you know, the Mikonos and those other islands,
and a half hours boat ride from that. But it
was a beautiful island. But I loved it. There was
nothing there, no cars. You when you got to the island.
If you were staying at an inn, they took you
by donkey.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
The donkey absolutely Why wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I where did they put all your bags?
Speaker 7 (02:08):
They hang it over one donkey and then you get
on the other dons incredible.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah he didn't. It was the Island of he Drop.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, okay, what's the one with all the white buildings?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Okay, Yeah, Greece is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
She goes Lisa in the morning.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
So we're winning on Darryl from Run DMC.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
Darrel is DMC and he's got this rock Bottom the
musical happening. Actually he's teamed up with Ernie Barker, buddy
Ernie bark But this is a cool event and he's
in town talking about it.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Tommy Hamilton, who's the bass player in Aerosmith, is also
a part of the musical and Run DMC and Aerosmith collaborated.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They bridged the gap literally between hip hop.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's amazing. Yeah, oh god, Run DMC so so many hits.
I mean they're pioneers of hip hop.
Speaker 8 (03:11):
Yeah, you must sire.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, it all kind of started with absolutely groundbreaking.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, and how about this. Yesterday d m C received
a proclamation from the City of Boston for his work
in the adduction addiction world and he was the keynote
speaker on City Hall.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Plaza and you were last week.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I was too. I was out there with Power of Recovery.
Much smaller event, but it's getting the message out about
addiction in that recovery as possible and that anybody you
know can get clean, clean up their lives and live
a better life. And that's what he's all about.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
And no one else is cool about this music is
It's not only Darryl and we said, Tommy Hamilton from Aerosmith,
but Simon Kirk from Bad Company, and Tony v one
of our longtime friends, one of the funniest guys on
the planet is a part of it. And you know
who else is in the lineup for rock Bottom the musical.
(04:20):
Josh Canter, the organist at Fenway Park for your Boston
Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I've seen videos of him and what he does. Oh yeah,
he's got quite the setup. I thought I had a
good setup. He's got quite the setup there. Wow, it's
Bad Company.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Huh yeah, Bad Company.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I believe Simon is being inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame in November.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Too, really a new inductee. Yeah, well, can we get
some bad company then.
Speaker 9 (04:53):
Virginity on the backseat of a Catalina. Yeah, Brenda, you
want to hear a funny thing about my Catalina.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Yeah, this is Lois Lois Seamus.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Uh, the Catalina. Dookie was in the car many times,
my buddy Jukie.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
But the Catalina I had costs headphones. You're ready for this,
just yeah, costs headphones in every seat in the car.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
It's a giant car, Catalina.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You're even in the back seat.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Oh yeah, you put the costs headphones on it. Wacking
Floyd or something.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
That's like so like.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He took us back right there.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
You know Daryl would appreciate it with the costs headphones.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh, he would know, you know, he would know what
I mean. Think about this guy's career. I mean, think
about it. The early eighties hip hop jillionaires, the arrow Smith.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Oh got legends, and I happen to know some behind
the scenes.
Speaker 10 (05:48):
He's here, hold on, hold on, he's walking in headphones on, Darryl,
come on, let's.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Go, Daryl.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
How you doing, buddy, I'm doing good.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
What's happening? What's going on? Poor Stone?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Look at you with your ac d see all day.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
By the way, I don't think I ever said this
to another man face to face.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Daryl Man, you are jacked, I am. Yeah, you're looking good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I feel good. Yeah, I feel I eat a lot
of cookies.
Speaker 11 (06:28):
Yeah, you just handed as d MC coolest cookies in
the universe.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Daryl makes cookies. That's what DMC stands. Also, that is
so cool, coolest cookies in a universe.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Now, is in a healthy cookie?
Speaker 8 (06:42):
I mean it's a regular cookie, but it's no preservatives.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh yeah, I'm not saying this because they might. They're
the best tasting cookies ever.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Can I read?
Speaker 7 (06:55):
The comment on the back is that, Okay, I'm always
involved with doing things around families, children, communities, and just
like my music, cookies connect us all and that couldn't
be more.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
They really do. They make everyone happy.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Exactly. Mind coffee.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Packaging too.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
I have to say we're going to have vegan gluten
free to a protein cook gems.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Don't feel the need to bring the vegan ones in.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Okay, I'm sure the taste great, giving me honest.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Oh it's loaded with chocolate chip. Oh yeah, you're not
cutting corners on the loaded damn good?
Speaker 12 (07:38):
Oh yeah, just an endorsement definitely is I get this
out from November to January first, from during the holidays only,
from November to January.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
First, we have the Christmas in Hollis Christmas cookie.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
This is sugar cookie.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
We're can you find your You can go to d.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
MC Dashcookies dot com. And I'm also on Amazon right.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Non lyon right? Really I eat like eight pecks.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yeah, if you're bringing a coffee with you, I mean
it is the morning.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
Well actually have Daryl makes coffee too, order some paper
plays coffee in Montclan.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
New Jersey.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
DMC yeah makes coffee, Darn Mixing Cookies have a common company.
I do comic books. I do all the comic cond downs, comics.
I'm gonna do down mixed chocolate.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Oh yeah, I got a lot going on.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
D m C and Daryl makes you know that would
be something else you bring any more?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, we got some more. Everybody say that this okay? Yeah? Yeah,
grand music. Okay, that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Congratulations you got the key to the City of Boston yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, it was really cool for a really good reason.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Working with Tony from Boston, Woody g from Boston and
a good friend of mine, Simon Kirk from Free and
Bad Company. We're doing a musical about sobriety and recovery
an addiction.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Yeah, and you've got an event tonight. I tell people
where to go, but it's already sold out. Of course,
can tell him anyway. They can't come and stand out side,
and we might let him. Well, I know you partner
with our buddy Ernie Mark Jr. And have you.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Been to this place? Noticed my first time our showroom
is where it's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Yeah, it's like a city of classic car It's really beautiful.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I got another idea. Me and Ernie b is going
to do.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Daryl makes Call.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I'm going to.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Okay us three.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Wow, We're going to put out a car way better
than Tesla's egg Adele and BMW combined.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Darryl makes Cars.
Speaker 11 (10:02):
It's kiss and we're back with Villy and Lisa in
the morning.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
All right, come on, guys, welcome back Billy and Lisa show.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Here.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
We got Daryl from DMC still in studio. A couple
of minutes ago, you were telling us about Arrowsmith working
with Tommy Hamilton. Right now, Well, let's go way way
back to the nineteen eighties when run DMC teamed up
with Arrowsmith for Walk This Way, a moment that changed
music forever. How did that happen? Tell us?
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Originally me and Running Chay was just gonna steal. I mean,
sample's just gonna steal, I mean sample them music.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, and it was gonna be.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Their music, you know, the drums and the guitar in
a loop, and me and Ron was gonna be rhyming
because it was eighty We came out in eighty three,
so it's eighty six, now eighty four. We did rock Box.
See Walk This Way wasn't the first rock rap record.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's a tongue twister.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
The first rock rap record was rock Box, which was
the first rep video on MTV eighty four. Then in
eighty five we did an album called The King of Rock.
We did a video for MTV with Larry Budd Melman.
Oh yeah, let him ship at the front door of
a rock and Roll Hall of Fame museum that didn't
(11:15):
even exist yet because it didn't start till eighty six.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And remember Larry Budd was, you guys can't come in here.
This is a rock and roll museum. And then we
went in and ruined Larry Mudd.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Now yeah, so then on.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
We was gonna sample their music, and I remember that
it was gonna be there beating. I would be like,
I'm DMC in a place to be been rhyming on
a MinC since eighty three. I'm the best of MC
in history. They will never be in MC better than me.
And then Run was supposed to going out DJ Run
here to get it done, typical Run the MC stuff.
We was working with a producer named Rick Rubin. Oh time, yeah,
(11:52):
and Rick Coles.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know how Rick talks, Hey, guys, you should do
the wreck it over.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
So me and Run was thinking from a limited hip
hop perspective, we're gonna sample it, We're gonna rhyme on it.
But Rick said, no, do it over the way the
band originally did it. So at first me a Run
was again said jam Master Jay rest in peace. He
was like, Yo, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Whatever whatever.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
So while me and Run was learning the song the
way Aerosmith reasily did it, Rick did something phenomenal. He
called Boston when Aerosmith was here. You know, I take
compound working on that album with d It looks like
a Lady dud. They was already doing it, but there
was no way for them to come back. Like, my
(12:35):
joke is they could have made a record with God,
Jesus and Moses and nobody would have cared. So Rick
caused them and says this, Hey guys, my name is
Rick Rubin, I know you know who run DMC is.
We want to do your record over. Do you want
to do it? So they was like, what, who's this?
My name is Rick rubh and I know you know
who run DMC is. We want to do your radio
(12:57):
And Steve and Joe and the band was.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So where.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Did you and Arrowsmith perform it together live the first time?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Man, I don't even remember, yeah, but I remember his
hip to add to that, so they was with it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It was cool.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
But Rick did something else phenomenal. He put us in
the studio with him together now. And the reason why
this is important is you know, hip hop didn't create anything.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It recreated everything. So the typical mode.
Speaker 8 (13:30):
Of operation was to sample somebody's else's music and rhyme
over it. So Rick said, no, dude, to record over
the way they did it. But it was brilliant that
Rick put us with them because put it like this,
the version your heir would have just the version your
hair now wouldn't have been that virgin. It would had
just been me and Ryan doing it, and we would
(13:52):
be sitting here and just going, oh, I remember your
sample eversplipt.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But the fact that we did it with them.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
I've been a around the world everywhere since eighty six.
I could go to somewhere I've never been tomorrow, And
people say this DMC. Don't you know when Steven Tyler
took that might stand and knocked down that wall that
was separating.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
D in the video. It didn't just happen in the video.
That happened in the world. So by us coming together
to you know, you was channel surfing.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Oh yeah, Like what the hell.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Is Erosmith doing with run DMC and our fans who
you know, we know rock beats from samples and all
the music we stole. When they got on MTV, they
was like, what the hell is run DMC doing with
the Rolling Stone there you go, And it was like, no,
it's not the roller Stones, it's Aerosmith. And they got
this so called walk this Way and Running DMC did
it with Joe Perry and this and that, and it
didn't just change music changed earthy.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
So where can people get all things DMC and by
the way, including your cookies and coffee.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
So my ig is King, DMC is my Instagram and
DMC makes Cookies is my other Instagram thing.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So check this out there.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Hold, I gotta make cooking announcement all right, January twentieth.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
New song It's Cool, She Gets Me High?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Dig this DMC and Sebastian Bach on vocals, Travis Barker
on Trum's, Mick Marsh from Motley Crung guitar, and Jeff
mckage from Guns.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
N' Roses on bass. January twenty If she Gets Me High. Yes,
music is about to get fun again.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
That's a jam right there, Daryl. Best of luck to
you from.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
The Planet Fitness Kiss one o eight Studios. We're back
with Billy and Lisa in the morning.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
We are into the final hour of the Billy and
Lisa Show. Welcome back everybody to a Friday morning ahead
of a three day weekend for most of us. I
know my son doesn't have school on Monday, so if
you have a three day weekend, please enjoy. The weather
should be okay, gonna be much cooler. We started the
week in the eighties, which is wild for October but
feeling mare like fall.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Now we've got author Dave Wedgen Studio and Lisa, is
this just range the way this happened?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Okay, So your buddy who is the chef and.
Speaker 11 (16:03):
Recently and said you need to connect with a Boston
author named Dave Wedge, and you got you right about
true crime and we love true crime. Here we just
came off the heels of the Karen Reid trial. And
I know that you're working in a Karen read book.
But people if they don't know Dave Wedge. Dave Wedge
wrote Boston Strong with Casey Sherman, which was turned into
(16:23):
Patriots Day starring Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 13 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, Casey and I wrote that book back in
twenty fourteen. I was a reporter at the Boston Herald
for fourteen years and led the Herald's coverage when that
all happened. I was out there in Watertown that night,
in the middle of the night, and you were there
when they were searching for the guy on the boat.
I got sent out as soon as Sean Collier got
shot over and over at MIT, I get sent out,
and as I was on my way there, I got
(16:47):
diverted from there to Watertown because we heard on the
scanner of the bombs in the shootout, so I was
stuck out there. Actually, my car was actually trapped in
the crime scene, and I got stuck out there through
the night.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You were that close. I was in the r what
was going down?
Speaker 7 (17:01):
That must have been a crazy time because they were
looking for the guy, right, They were everywhere, and then
all of a sudden, the story popped from Mit and
the MIT cop.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Was shot, and then you hear it, you're running out.
Speaker 13 (17:13):
It was not My son, who's now twelve, was two
weeks old, and my wife, Jessica had the baby on
maternity leave, and I came home after covering the bombings
all day, and then we heard the shooting of Sean
Collier on the TV when I finally sat down and
was trying to help with the baby finally and I said,
you know, this doesn't happen. Something's wrong, and I kind
(17:33):
of knew right away it had to be connected. Then
I got sent out.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
So God, I've seen the movie five or six times
and they get to the scene at the boat Like
I'm getting shills now just thinking about it.
Speaker 13 (17:42):
It's amazing that more police officers weren't killed in that.
It was really an an incredibly intense moment. Wow, what
made you write the book? Well, as I said, I've
been a reporter for fourteen years, I always wanted to
do a book.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I was a report of twenty years. Actually.
Speaker 13 (17:57):
I had a few opportunities with a couple other stories
over the years, but nothing that really jumped out at
me and made me say, you know what, I want
to dedicate a year or two of my life to this.
But when the bombings happened, I knew someone was going
to do it. I knew there probably be a bunch
of books, and I was like, you know what, I'm
in the middle of it. I have access to all
these people. I know I can do a good job
on it.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
In case.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
He's an amazing writer, he had just come off The
Finest Hours, which is a beautiful book movie, and he's
a friend, so I knew we would do a great
job together. So it was kind of a no brainer
for me to jump in.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
At least a couple of seconds ago, mention, Karen Reid
is your Karen Reid book, the one they're talking about
the big film.
Speaker 13 (18:31):
And unfortunately no, that's Karen Reid herself with her attorney,
Alan Jackson.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
But this is another one.
Speaker 13 (18:38):
I was thinking about doing a book on the Karen
Read case way back before the first trial when it
all first started happening, and I kind of tabled it
to write this book that just came out about marvelous
Marvin Hagler. When the second trial came up, I jumped
back in after I finished this one, and I've been
working on my Karen Read book for the past six months,
seven months.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It seems like in Boston we have a lot of
true crime story.
Speaker 13 (19:00):
Oh yeah, it's it's you know, it's there's so many
great stories in the world where culture storytellers just humans
in general. But in Boston, we're really good at telling
stories and a lot of really incredible stories come out
of it. And the bombing is a great example. You know,
there was books about the terrorist, you know, there was
books about different people involvement, but we wrote the story
about the survivors and how they overcame and that redemption
(19:23):
moment and some of the survivors that lost limbs and
then ran the marathon the next.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Year, and you know, that's that's what Pats Strong is
and that's why we wrote it. You know, were you
happy with the way the movie came out. I think
it's a great movie. You know, it's they did they did.
Speaker 13 (19:37):
When it first came out, it was raw, so it
was a little like, you know, I wasn't sure, but
I watched it for the ten year anniversary last year,
and I think it's held up well. I think it
captured the spirit of what happened. I think Mark Wahlberg
did a great job, and Peteburg's a great coment.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Did they have you on the set?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
We were on set a good amount.
Speaker 13 (19:54):
Yeah, And you know, we didn't write the script, but
you know, they kept us in the loop and we
worked with them to make sure things were and accurate.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
And you know, I couldn't say better things about Pete
Burg and Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
The wonderful word with Berg is amazingly talented, very talented guy.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And that was a difficult story at a difficult time.
Remember the FBI.
Speaker 13 (20:12):
There was things the FBI didn't want out, like there
was moments where Pete had to actually meet with the FBI,
the clear stuff. It was a it was a difficult,
difficult movie to make, and we were in a time
where again it was very raw.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Now with the Karen Read book. Will you have talks
with Karen Read?
Speaker 13 (20:26):
I have met with Karen a couple of times before
the first trial. I've talked to Alan Jackson many times.
But you know, they're going to do their own books.
So I'm going to skate my lane and write my book,
and my book will be the definitive story of what
happened in the case from all sides.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
So Dave has a new book out.
Speaker 11 (20:42):
It's called Blood and Hate, the marvelous Marvin Hagler's story
about the boxer. But the biggest thing is is that
it's been optioned by actor Sam Rockwell, who was just
in The White Lotus.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13 (20:54):
So this book is kind of my labor of love.
It's my my love letter to the city I grew
up in, Brockton. It's my eighth book, and again it's
one that I kind of thought about doing for a
few years, and then I finally did it after I
finished my last.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Book, which was about bikers and cops and stuff, a
true crime book called Writing with Evil.
Speaker 13 (21:12):
I wanted to write this book with Marvin when he
was alive, but after he passed away, I was like,
you know what, this guy's legacy has never really been secured.
A lot of people think of Marvin Haglery, they think, oh,
he lost to Sugary Len and then disappeared. But to me,
Marvin's story is this story, which is him escaping Newark
as a little boy, fighting the corruption in the seventies
and eighties in the box and then winning this fight
in London in nineteen eighty against a guy that was
(21:34):
backed by a white power group and he was pelted
with bottles after he won the fight.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
And that's what the story is about.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Yeah, at least it was telling me that in the
Marvin story, I wasn't gonna realize this because we would
have Marvin on the show a lot.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
You don't rune out of Brockton. Yeah, World Channel. But
he dealt with a lot of racism he did in
that fight specifically.
Speaker 13 (21:53):
And it was nineteen eighty and the guy he fought
was a guy named Alan Minter, and he was from London, AMA,
and he.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Was a great white hope and there was a white
power group that loved the guy. They backed him was
called the National Front.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
Before the fight, Marvin and Alan had a press conference
and Alan said at that press conference that no black
man will ever take my title. No imagine saying that today.
Viral doesn't even describe it. There was no viral back then,
but it stuck. It caused a wound, and Allen Miner
paid for that comment.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Now, Dave.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
A little bit earlier on the show, I told Marvin
Hagler story that I had from an old Kiss concert.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I'm not sure you'll find it in the book though.
When he was back to.
Speaker 14 (22:33):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
He was a man about town. You know a lot
of people.
Speaker 13 (22:37):
The beautiful thing about this book is I'm out doing
events all the time now and book signings, and it's
wonderful to hear people like you come up from, you know,
from people in their forties and fifties at New Marvin
so even they spent time when they hung out with
him and went to his fights. And we call him
the fifth Franchise in Brockton because he was as big
as the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Red Sox song got the day. Yeah, I loved him
in this region.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Justin you had your hand in the Joe Rogan, you know,
one of the biggest podcasters in the world, grew up
in Boston. He was a big Marvin fan.
Speaker 15 (23:07):
When I was a kid growing up in Boston. Hagler
was the Middleway champion of the world. And I used
to see they used to have video of him running.
They played it on the news. He was running on
the There was the dunes, sand dunes and Kate Cod
in the winter, freezing cold with a hoodie on, running
screaming war wh It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Marvin Hagler made you want to just get out of.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Your house and go running in the snow here on
the bench in the snow.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Rogan Rogan loves Hagler because he knows great great when
he sees it, you know.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
Yeah, And he was The thing about Marvin again was
you know, to me, he embodies the spirit of where
I grew up, you know, brought to its resilience, its
overcoming adversity. He wasn't an insider in the boxing game.
He wasn't with Don King of barm He was an outsider,
and so were his trained as the local trainers, the pews,
and they fought against that very corrupt machine.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And there's a there's some great stuff in the book.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
I could talk about it all day, but suffice to
say Ted Kennedy and Tip O'Neil had to step in
to help Marvin wi his title shot.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
That's how corrupt it was, and.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
The most ripped person I've ever seen in my life.
And that's before all the crazy stuff that people are.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
You know, this is going to be another great movie,
I think, so you know.
Speaker 13 (24:20):
And Sam Rockwell optioned the rights to it, as you said,
and I've been working with him and we've actually brought
on Rosie perez As and uh, Sam wants to play
Goodie Petronelli and hit me great at it because good
he was such a quirky, you know, wearing headbands and yeah,
sick dressed up in the seventies, garb. You know, I'm
(24:40):
so happy you guys have me in.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I love the show.
Speaker 13 (24:43):
Fellow Milton night Li so Bill, I love your work.
Been following you for years, so thank you, thank you
very much. And you could be one of the best
dressed writers I've ever seen. I mean that with the
greatest respect. You got to thank my wife for that.
By the way, never mind.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Billy every morning.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Just one way, Hey friends, welcome back to the show.
Justin here about to wrap things up. Reminder, the next
shot has sold out jingle Ball tickets starring Ed Sharon
coming your way at twelve to ten with McCabe Isn't
He Nice? And then at three ten with the b
Bros And Gianna. Also, you can catch the podcast of
the entire show today. Listen to it all weekend, especially
if you have a three day weekend. You can get
(25:21):
it on the iHeartRadio app just search Billy and Lisa
in the morning. Now, Lisa, are you doing trick or
treating this year?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
All right?
Speaker 11 (25:29):
So Riley's fifteen, so he might head out with his friends,
But I'm not going to be going out like as
an adult, okay, walking around with them?
Speaker 14 (25:37):
Probably not, Mikey b I'm assuming No. I mean I
might hand out candy at my house. I'm not going
to now, kid, I'm not going to walk around my cats.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Well I have good news for you both. Okay, right here,
how about this Airheads, you know, Airheads of candy giving
people a chance to win a creepy decoy boy. This
is a legitimate thing, and they're telling people the fake kid.
The fake decoy boy is a way for adults to
go trigger treating and not get hounded for being too old.
(26:06):
So you can go around to people's houses and get
candy with this fake child. It's like a baby that
goes like a carrot. It has a wagon. It's a
little boy in a wagon. Looks like Frankenstein.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
It's so creepy.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's so creepy, but it works for too long.
Speaker 16 (26:19):
Getting older has been giving up the joy of trick
or treating. Luckily, Airheads has a solution, The Decoy Boy.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Treat Airheads please. Oh I'm sorry, is this your child?
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (26:34):
The decoy Boy is a humanoid rollbot with innovative candy
extracting technology that makes it socially acceptable for you to
go trick or treating.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Please place Airheads into my human hand.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Can I have one more?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Please? Please?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Please?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And in case of emergency, there's always tantrum mode. Oh yay,
somebody needs to give that marketing guy a race.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I was just gonna say, great marketing. Yeah, so obviously
it sounds like it's fake. It's actually a real thing.
You can go to the Airhead's website and enter to
win this decoy Boy thing.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I have to tell you go to.
Speaker 11 (27:13):
Their instagram and check it out because it looks so creepy,
but it does look real.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah. Yeah, and by the way, like you know, we
do trick or treating every year. We spend some of
the time at the house, and there's always older people
that come, yeah, candy by themselves. Yeah, like they're dressed up,
but they're clearly like nineteen or twenty.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yeah, the older kids.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
What is the year that you stopped trick or treating?
Speaker 11 (27:34):
Okay, so that depends on the kid, but it's usually
eighth grade, you know, like fourteen, thirteen, fourteen, they're stage.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Out of it.
Speaker 14 (27:43):
Yeah, I think I remember, like, yeah, probably that around
that time, or like freshman year in high school of
framing him. But like you started doing it for like fun,
because you and your friends like your teats, get out
of the house and walk around the house and I
mean walk on the neighborhood with all your friends exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, I can't remember. Well, it was an incident when
I was younger with trick or treating. I had an
older cousin that was like probably four or five years older,
and you know, he was into some trouble. I wasn't
there yet, and I had Adjason Friday the thirteenth mask
my mom bought me and with fake blood, and she
asked me to go upstairs because my cousin lived upstairs
and have him put the blood on. So I went
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upstairs and he did, and then I went out trick
or treating. And so I was probably about like nine
or ten years old, and I remember all night I
was going up to doors and they were looking at
me weird, the people. I didn't know why. And so
I get home and I walk in the house. My
mom looks at my mask and she's like, what is
on there?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I can't say on the radio what he drew on
the forehead of the mask, but the most offensive thing
in the entire world, and there I was trick or treating, Like, yeah,
it was traumatized me.
Speaker 14 (28:48):
So I never dressed up again after that. Why do
I see Justin be on that like steals all the
kids candy Back in the day.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Uh, Now you know I did the whole like toilet
paper thing. Yeah, you know, you toilet paper like the
tree and of people's houses. I did that stuff.
Speaker 14 (29:01):
Is it weird that when I see that now, if
I do see it, I'm like, oh, I'm happy that
kids are still doing something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I mean, it's better than being in their house on
their phone.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Every good old fashioned back.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, I'm just saying. So, yeah, it's on a Friday
this year, Halloween.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, that's good. This is a good This is going
to be a really good weekend, which.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Is really good for the kids. Now at least, I
know you live kind of on a main street, do you, Yeah,
we never.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Get trigger treaters.
Speaker 11 (29:23):
Like our first year when we moved in, I had
all this candy and yeah, our driveways a long, and
we're on the other side of the street, so the
sidewalk is on the other is on the opposite side.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So yeah, so we like never get anyone.
Speaker 14 (29:35):
I actually am the perfect spot of a dead end
called the sack, but we also don't. And after you
think about this the other day, is it simply because
families aren't having as many kids.
Speaker 11 (29:45):
I think it's I think they go to neighborhoods now
where they can get the most bang for their buck.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
It's just that's what you do.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
So we like always go to like this other neighborhood
and it's like super easy to walk around.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
They can hit like two hundred houses.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
That's what you're saying. If you don't think that they
think that I'm to give away the good candy.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I don't know, I mean bars like.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Upgrade you should be given out full candy. Yeah, an
upgrade you've made it to a point exactly. That's another argument.
Another debate too, is dropping the kids off at different neighborhoods. Yeah,
better neighborhood. They do it in my neighborhood in Saan,
New Hampshire. They dropped the kids off, which I'm fine with.
Your neighborhood is a winning neighbor's a winning neighborhood for sure.
But I see people I've never seen in my life.
Speaker 11 (30:25):
Well, we usually go to a neighborhood where we have friends,
so it's not like it's like the neighborhood we've never
been to.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
But yeah, yeah it happens.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, I'm looking forward to Halloween. I had you go
in to Mikey's house for Halloween trick or treating, Like,
what's going on in that house? Come on, come on, hey,
I got a hot tub
Speaker 8 (30:42):
In the board.
All right, if you've never seen Ed Sharon live in concert,
(00:02):
this is your opportunity.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What up?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Everybody is justin here and yes Ed Sharon is headlining.
Are sold out jingle Ball coming up December fourteenth at
the TD guard In. The show is sold out, so
the only way in is to win. I do have
a pair of tickets for you right now. I'll take
call her twenty five at six one seven, nine to
three one one one. Await, You'll need a keyword, and
(00:25):
the keyword is going to be tradition, because that's what
jingle Ball is every single year with kiss one O. Wait,
it's a holiday tradition.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
My kids, my mom and I went down to New
York City this weekend to see Pink perform with Hugh Jackman.
I just recommend that anyone who hasn't seen it yet
check out the performance. It was unbelievable. She performed with Willow,
her daughter, and just watching her growth from even a
couple of years ago while she was on tour is
just insane.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
So anyway, I hope everybody had a great week.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Is Hugh Jackman on tour with Pink?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm not sure. I'll have to look that up. I
did see video of Ping's performance this weekend. But that's
really cool. She's an amazing show. But Wolverine, how cool
is that? Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, I saw the
video on social media. Yeah, she performed at Hugh Jackman's
Greatest Showman in New York.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
It's supposed to be a great show. Yeah, that is good.
Good morning, crew, listening to you from Kafas Beach in Heos, Greece.
Beautiful here, have a great day.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Did you go to Hero's Grease when you and Michelle Ittte?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
No, I went to what was that island of o oh,
the one that I'm trying to the right word to say.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Happened on the island?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No, the I'm not familiar, but the part of Greece
were like kind of like Pee Town.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Oh no, No, I went to an island. It was
right near you know, the Mikonos and those other islands,
and a half hours boat ride from that. But it
was a beautiful island. But I loved it. There was
nothing there, no cars. You when you got to the island.
If you were staying at an inn, they took you
by donkey.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
The donkey absolutely Why wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I where did they put all your bags?
Speaker 7 (02:08):
They hang it over one donkey and then you get
on the other dons incredible.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah he didn't. It was the Island of he Drop.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, okay, what's the one with all the white buildings?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Okay, Yeah, Greece is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
She goes Lisa in the morning.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
So we're winning on Darryl from Run DMC.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
Darrel is DMC and he's got this rock Bottom the
musical happening. Actually he's teamed up with Ernie Barker, buddy
Ernie bark But this is a cool event and he's
in town talking about it.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Tommy Hamilton, who's the bass player in Aerosmith, is also
a part of the musical and Run DMC and Aerosmith collaborated.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They bridged the gap literally between hip hop.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's amazing. Yeah, oh god, Run DMC so so many hits.
I mean they're pioneers of hip hop.
Speaker 8 (03:11):
Yeah, you must sire.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, it all kind of started with absolutely groundbreaking.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, and how about this. Yesterday d m C received
a proclamation from the City of Boston for his work
in the adduction addiction world and he was the keynote
speaker on City Hall.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Plaza and you were last week.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I was too. I was out there with Power of Recovery.
Much smaller event, but it's getting the message out about
addiction in that recovery as possible and that anybody you
know can get clean, clean up their lives and live
a better life. And that's what he's all about.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
And no one else is cool about this music is
It's not only Darryl and we said, Tommy Hamilton from Aerosmith,
but Simon Kirk from Bad Company, and Tony v one
of our longtime friends, one of the funniest guys on
the planet is a part of it. And you know
who else is in the lineup for rock Bottom the musical.
(04:20):
Josh Canter, the organist at Fenway Park for your Boston
Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I've seen videos of him and what he does. Oh yeah,
he's got quite the setup. I thought I had a
good setup. He's got quite the setup there. Wow, it's
Bad Company.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Huh yeah, Bad Company.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I believe Simon is being inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame in November.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Too, really a new inductee. Yeah, well, can we get
some bad company then.
Speaker 9 (04:53):
Virginity on the backseat of a Catalina. Yeah, Brenda, you
want to hear a funny thing about my Catalina.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Yeah, this is Lois Lois Seamus.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Uh, the Catalina. Dookie was in the car many times,
my buddy Jukie.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
But the Catalina I had costs headphones. You're ready for this,
just yeah, costs headphones in every seat in the car.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
It's a giant car, Catalina.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You're even in the back seat.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Oh yeah, you put the costs headphones on it. Wacking
Floyd or something.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
That's like so like.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He took us back right there.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
You know Daryl would appreciate it with the costs headphones.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh, he would know, you know, he would know what
I mean. Think about this guy's career. I mean, think
about it. The early eighties hip hop jillionaires, the arrow Smith.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Oh got legends, and I happen to know some behind
the scenes.
Speaker 10 (05:48):
He's here, hold on, hold on, he's walking in headphones on, Darryl,
come on, let's.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Go, Daryl.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
How you doing, buddy, I'm doing good.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
What's happening? What's going on? Poor Stone?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Look at you with your ac d see all day.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
By the way, I don't think I ever said this
to another man face to face.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Daryl Man, you are jacked, I am. Yeah, you're looking good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I feel good. Yeah, I feel I eat a lot
of cookies.
Speaker 11 (06:28):
Yeah, you just handed as d MC coolest cookies in
the universe.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Daryl makes cookies. That's what DMC stands. Also, that is
so cool, coolest cookies in a universe.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Now, is in a healthy cookie?
Speaker 8 (06:42):
I mean it's a regular cookie, but it's no preservatives.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh yeah, I'm not saying this because they might. They're
the best tasting cookies ever.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Can I read?
Speaker 7 (06:55):
The comment on the back is that, Okay, I'm always
involved with doing things around families, children, communities, and just
like my music, cookies connect us all and that couldn't
be more.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
They really do. They make everyone happy.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Exactly. Mind coffee.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Packaging too.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
I have to say we're going to have vegan gluten
free to a protein cook gems.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Don't feel the need to bring the vegan ones in.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Okay, I'm sure the taste great, giving me honest.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Oh it's loaded with chocolate chip. Oh yeah, you're not
cutting corners on the loaded damn good?
Speaker 12 (07:38):
Oh yeah, just an endorsement definitely is I get this
out from November to January first, from during the holidays only,
from November to January.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
First, we have the Christmas in Hollis Christmas cookie.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
This is sugar cookie.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
We're can you find your You can go to d.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
MC Dashcookies dot com. And I'm also on Amazon right.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Non lyon right? Really I eat like eight pecks.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yeah, if you're bringing a coffee with you, I mean
it is the morning.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
Well actually have Daryl makes coffee too, order some paper
plays coffee in Montclan.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
New Jersey.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
DMC yeah makes coffee, Darn Mixing Cookies have a common company.
I do comic books. I do all the comic cond downs, comics.
I'm gonna do down mixed chocolate.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Oh yeah, I got a lot going on.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
D m C and Daryl makes you know that would
be something else you bring any more?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, we got some more. Everybody say that this okay? Yeah? Yeah,
grand music. Okay, that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Congratulations you got the key to the City of Boston yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, it was really cool for a really good reason.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Working with Tony from Boston, Woody g from Boston and
a good friend of mine, Simon Kirk from Free and
Bad Company. We're doing a musical about sobriety and recovery
an addiction.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Yeah, and you've got an event tonight. I tell people
where to go, but it's already sold out. Of course,
can tell him anyway. They can't come and stand out side,
and we might let him. Well, I know you partner
with our buddy Ernie Mark Jr. And have you.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Been to this place? Noticed my first time our showroom
is where it's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Yeah, it's like a city of classic car It's really beautiful.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I got another idea. Me and Ernie b is going
to do.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Daryl makes Call.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I'm going to.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Okay us three.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Wow, We're going to put out a car way better
than Tesla's egg Adele and BMW combined.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Darryl makes Cars.
Speaker 11 (10:02):
It's kiss and we're back with Villy and Lisa in
the morning.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
All right, come on, guys, welcome back Billy and Lisa show.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Here.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
We got Daryl from DMC still in studio. A couple
of minutes ago, you were telling us about Arrowsmith working
with Tommy Hamilton. Right now, Well, let's go way way
back to the nineteen eighties when run DMC teamed up
with Arrowsmith for Walk This Way, a moment that changed
music forever. How did that happen? Tell us?
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Originally me and Running Chay was just gonna steal. I mean,
sample's just gonna steal, I mean sample them music.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, and it was gonna be.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Their music, you know, the drums and the guitar in
a loop, and me and Ron was gonna be rhyming
because it was eighty We came out in eighty three,
so it's eighty six, now eighty four. We did rock Box.
See Walk This Way wasn't the first rock rap record.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's a tongue twister.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
The first rock rap record was rock Box, which was
the first rep video on MTV eighty four. Then in
eighty five we did an album called The King of Rock.
We did a video for MTV with Larry Budd Melman.
Oh yeah, let him ship at the front door of
a rock and Roll Hall of Fame museum that didn't
(11:15):
even exist yet because it didn't start till eighty six.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And remember Larry Budd was, you guys can't come in here.
This is a rock and roll museum. And then we
went in and ruined Larry Mudd.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Now yeah, so then on.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
We was gonna sample their music, and I remember that
it was gonna be there beating. I would be like,
I'm DMC in a place to be been rhyming on
a MinC since eighty three. I'm the best of MC
in history. They will never be in MC better than me.
And then Run was supposed to going out DJ Run
here to get it done, typical Run the MC stuff.
We was working with a producer named Rick Rubin. Oh time, yeah,
(11:52):
and Rick Coles.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know how Rick talks, Hey, guys, you should do
the wreck it over.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
So me and Run was thinking from a limited hip
hop perspective, we're gonna sample it, We're gonna rhyme on it.
But Rick said, no, do it over the way the
band originally did it. So at first me a Run
was again said jam Master Jay rest in peace. He
was like, Yo, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Whatever whatever.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
So while me and Run was learning the song the
way Aerosmith reasily did it, Rick did something phenomenal. He
called Boston when Aerosmith was here. You know, I take
compound working on that album with d It looks like
a Lady dud. They was already doing it, but there
was no way for them to come back. Like, my
(12:35):
joke is they could have made a record with God,
Jesus and Moses and nobody would have cared. So Rick
caused them and says this, Hey guys, my name is
Rick Rubin, I know you know who run DMC is.
We want to do your record over. Do you want
to do it? So they was like, what, who's this?
My name is Rick rubh and I know you know
who run DMC is. We want to do your radio
(12:57):
And Steve and Joe and the band was.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So where.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Did you and Arrowsmith perform it together live the first time?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Man, I don't even remember, yeah, but I remember his
hip to add to that, so they was with it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It was cool.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
But Rick did something else phenomenal. He put us in
the studio with him together now. And the reason why
this is important is you know, hip hop didn't create anything.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It recreated everything. So the typical mode.
Speaker 8 (13:30):
Of operation was to sample somebody's else's music and rhyme
over it. So Rick said, no, dude, to record over
the way they did it. But it was brilliant that
Rick put us with them because put it like this,
the version your heir would have just the version your
hair now wouldn't have been that virgin. It would had
just been me and Ryan doing it, and we would
(13:52):
be sitting here and just going, oh, I remember your
sample eversplipt.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But the fact that we did it with them.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
I've been a around the world everywhere since eighty six.
I could go to somewhere I've never been tomorrow, And
people say this DMC. Don't you know when Steven Tyler
took that might stand and knocked down that wall that
was separating.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
D in the video. It didn't just happen in the video.
That happened in the world. So by us coming together
to you know, you was channel surfing.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Oh yeah, Like what the hell.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Is Erosmith doing with run DMC and our fans who
you know, we know rock beats from samples and all
the music we stole. When they got on MTV, they
was like, what the hell is run DMC doing with
the Rolling Stone there you go, And it was like, no,
it's not the roller Stones, it's Aerosmith. And they got
this so called walk this Way and Running DMC did
it with Joe Perry and this and that, and it
didn't just change music changed earthy.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
So where can people get all things DMC and by
the way, including your cookies and coffee.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
So my ig is King, DMC is my Instagram and
DMC makes Cookies is my other Instagram thing.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So check this out there.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Hold, I gotta make cooking announcement all right, January twentieth.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
New song It's Cool, She Gets Me High?
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on Trum's, Mick Marsh from Motley Crung guitar, and Jeff
mckage from Guns.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
N' Roses on bass. January twenty If she Gets Me High. Yes,
music is about to get fun again.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
That's a jam right there, Daryl. Best of luck to
you from.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
The Planet Fitness Kiss one o eight Studios. We're back
with Billy and Lisa in the morning.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
We are into the final hour of the Billy and
Lisa Show. Welcome back everybody to a Friday morning ahead
of a three day weekend for most of us. I
know my son doesn't have school on Monday, so if
you have a three day weekend, please enjoy. The weather
should be okay, gonna be much cooler. We started the
week in the eighties, which is wild for October but
feeling mare like fall.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Now we've got author Dave Wedgen Studio and Lisa, is
this just range the way this happened?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Okay, So your buddy who is the chef and.
Speaker 11 (16:03):
Recently and said you need to connect with a Boston
author named Dave Wedge, and you got you right about
true crime and we love true crime. Here we just
came off the heels of the Karen Reid trial. And
I know that you're working in a Karen read book.
But people if they don't know Dave Wedge. Dave Wedge
wrote Boston Strong with Casey Sherman, which was turned into
(16:23):
Patriots Day starring Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 13 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, Casey and I wrote that book back in
twenty fourteen. I was a reporter at the Boston Herald
for fourteen years and led the Herald's coverage when that
all happened. I was out there in Watertown that night,
in the middle of the night, and you were there
when they were searching for the guy on the boat.
I got sent out as soon as Sean Collier got
shot over and over at MIT, I get sent out,
and as I was on my way there, I got
(16:47):
diverted from there to Watertown because we heard on the
scanner of the bombs in the shootout, so I was
stuck out there. Actually, my car was actually trapped in
the crime scene, and I got stuck out there through
the night.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You were that close. I was in the r what
was going down?
Speaker 7 (17:01):
That must have been a crazy time because they were
looking for the guy, right, They were everywhere, and then
all of a sudden, the story popped from Mit and
the MIT cop.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Was shot, and then you hear it, you're running out.
Speaker 13 (17:13):
It was not My son, who's now twelve, was two
weeks old, and my wife, Jessica had the baby on
maternity leave, and I came home after covering the bombings
all day, and then we heard the shooting of Sean
Collier on the TV when I finally sat down and
was trying to help with the baby finally and I said,
you know, this doesn't happen. Something's wrong, and I kind
(17:33):
of knew right away it had to be connected. Then
I got sent out.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
So God, I've seen the movie five or six times
and they get to the scene at the boat Like
I'm getting shills now just thinking about it.
Speaker 13 (17:42):
It's amazing that more police officers weren't killed in that.
It was really an an incredibly intense moment. Wow, what
made you write the book? Well, as I said, I've
been a reporter for fourteen years, I always wanted to
do a book.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I was a report of twenty years. Actually.
Speaker 13 (17:57):
I had a few opportunities with a couple other stories
over the years, but nothing that really jumped out at
me and made me say, you know what, I want
to dedicate a year or two of my life to this.
But when the bombings happened, I knew someone was going
to do it. I knew there probably be a bunch
of books, and I was like, you know what, I'm
in the middle of it. I have access to all
these people. I know I can do a good job
on it.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
In case.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
He's an amazing writer, he had just come off The
Finest Hours, which is a beautiful book movie, and he's
a friend, so I knew we would do a great
job together. So it was kind of a no brainer
for me to jump in.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
At least a couple of seconds ago, mention, Karen Reid
is your Karen Reid book, the one they're talking about
the big film.
Speaker 13 (18:31):
And unfortunately no, that's Karen Reid herself with her attorney,
Alan Jackson.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
But this is another one.
Speaker 13 (18:38):
I was thinking about doing a book on the Karen
Read case way back before the first trial when it
all first started happening, and I kind of tabled it
to write this book that just came out about marvelous
Marvin Hagler. When the second trial came up, I jumped
back in after I finished this one, and I've been
working on my Karen Read book for the past six months,
seven months.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It seems like in Boston we have a lot of
true crime story.
Speaker 13 (19:00):
Oh yeah, it's it's you know, it's there's so many
great stories in the world where culture storytellers just humans
in general. But in Boston, we're really good at telling
stories and a lot of really incredible stories come out
of it. And the bombing is a great example. You know,
there was books about the terrorist, you know, there was
books about different people involvement, but we wrote the story
about the survivors and how they overcame and that redemption
(19:23):
moment and some of the survivors that lost limbs and
then ran the marathon the next.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Year, and you know, that's that's what Pats Strong is
and that's why we wrote it. You know, were you
happy with the way the movie came out. I think
it's a great movie. You know, it's they did they did.
Speaker 13 (19:37):
When it first came out, it was raw, so it
was a little like, you know, I wasn't sure, but
I watched it for the ten year anniversary last year,
and I think it's held up well. I think it
captured the spirit of what happened. I think Mark Wahlberg
did a great job, and Peteburg's a great coment.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Did they have you on the set?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
We were on set a good amount.
Speaker 13 (19:54):
Yeah, And you know, we didn't write the script, but
you know, they kept us in the loop and we
worked with them to make sure things were and accurate.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
And you know, I couldn't say better things about Pete
Burg and Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
The wonderful word with Berg is amazingly talented, very talented guy.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And that was a difficult story at a difficult time.
Remember the FBI.
Speaker 13 (20:12):
There was things the FBI didn't want out, like there
was moments where Pete had to actually meet with the FBI,
the clear stuff. It was a it was a difficult,
difficult movie to make, and we were in a time
where again it was very raw.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Now with the Karen Read book. Will you have talks
with Karen Read?
Speaker 13 (20:26):
I have met with Karen a couple of times before
the first trial. I've talked to Alan Jackson many times.
But you know, they're going to do their own books.
So I'm going to skate my lane and write my book,
and my book will be the definitive story of what
happened in the case from all sides.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
So Dave has a new book out.
Speaker 11 (20:42):
It's called Blood and Hate, the marvelous Marvin Hagler's story
about the boxer. But the biggest thing is is that
it's been optioned by actor Sam Rockwell, who was just
in The White Lotus.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13 (20:54):
So this book is kind of my labor of love.
It's my my love letter to the city I grew
up in, Brockton. It's my eighth book, and again it's
one that I kind of thought about doing for a
few years, and then I finally did it after I
finished my last.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Book, which was about bikers and cops and stuff, a
true crime book called Writing with Evil.
Speaker 13 (21:12):
I wanted to write this book with Marvin when he
was alive, but after he passed away, I was like,
you know what, this guy's legacy has never really been secured.
A lot of people think of Marvin Haglery, they think, oh,
he lost to Sugary Len and then disappeared. But to me,
Marvin's story is this story, which is him escaping Newark
as a little boy, fighting the corruption in the seventies
and eighties in the box and then winning this fight
in London in nineteen eighty against a guy that was
(21:34):
backed by a white power group and he was pelted
with bottles after he won the fight.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
And that's what the story is about.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Yeah, at least it was telling me that in the
Marvin story, I wasn't gonna realize this because we would
have Marvin on the show a lot.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
You don't rune out of Brockton. Yeah, World Channel. But
he dealt with a lot of racism he did in
that fight specifically.
Speaker 13 (21:53):
And it was nineteen eighty and the guy he fought
was a guy named Alan Minter, and he was from London, AMA,
and he.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Was a great white hope and there was a white
power group that loved the guy. They backed him was
called the National Front.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
Before the fight, Marvin and Alan had a press conference
and Alan said at that press conference that no black
man will ever take my title. No imagine saying that today.
Viral doesn't even describe it. There was no viral back then,
but it stuck. It caused a wound, and Allen Miner
paid for that comment.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Now, Dave.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
A little bit earlier on the show, I told Marvin
Hagler story that I had from an old Kiss concert.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I'm not sure you'll find it in the book though.
When he was back to.
Speaker 14 (22:33):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
He was a man about town. You know a lot
of people.
Speaker 13 (22:37):
The beautiful thing about this book is I'm out doing
events all the time now and book signings, and it's
wonderful to hear people like you come up from, you know,
from people in their forties and fifties at New Marvin
so even they spent time when they hung out with
him and went to his fights. And we call him
the fifth Franchise in Brockton because he was as big
as the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Red Sox song got the day. Yeah, I loved him
in this region.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Justin you had your hand in the Joe Rogan, you know,
one of the biggest podcasters in the world, grew up
in Boston. He was a big Marvin fan.
Speaker 15 (23:07):
When I was a kid growing up in Boston. Hagler
was the Middleway champion of the world. And I used
to see they used to have video of him running.
They played it on the news. He was running on
the There was the dunes, sand dunes and Kate Cod
in the winter, freezing cold with a hoodie on, running
screaming war wh It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Marvin Hagler made you want to just get out of.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Your house and go running in the snow here on
the bench in the snow.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Rogan Rogan loves Hagler because he knows great great when
he sees it, you know.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
Yeah, And he was The thing about Marvin again was
you know, to me, he embodies the spirit of where
I grew up, you know, brought to its resilience, its
overcoming adversity. He wasn't an insider in the boxing game.
He wasn't with Don King of barm He was an outsider,
and so were his trained as the local trainers, the pews,
and they fought against that very corrupt machine.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And there's a there's some great stuff in the book.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
I could talk about it all day, but suffice to
say Ted Kennedy and Tip O'Neil had to step in
to help Marvin wi his title shot.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
That's how corrupt it was, and.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
The most ripped person I've ever seen in my life.
And that's before all the crazy stuff that people are.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
You know, this is going to be another great movie,
I think, so you know.
Speaker 13 (24:20):
And Sam Rockwell optioned the rights to it, as you said,
and I've been working with him and we've actually brought
on Rosie perez As and uh, Sam wants to play
Goodie Petronelli and hit me great at it because good
he was such a quirky, you know, wearing headbands and yeah,
sick dressed up in the seventies, garb. You know, I'm
(24:40):
so happy you guys have me in.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I love the show.
Speaker 13 (24:43):
Fellow Milton night Li so Bill, I love your work.
Been following you for years, so thank you, thank you
very much. And you could be one of the best
dressed writers I've ever seen. I mean that with the
greatest respect. You got to thank my wife for that.
By the way, never mind.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Billy every morning.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Just one way, Hey friends, welcome back to the show.
Justin here about to wrap things up. Reminder, the next
shot has sold out jingle Ball tickets starring Ed Sharon
coming your way at twelve to ten with McCabe Isn't
He Nice? And then at three ten with the b
Bros And Gianna. Also, you can catch the podcast of
the entire show today. Listen to it all weekend, especially
if you have a three day weekend. You can get
(25:21):
it on the iHeartRadio app just search Billy and Lisa
in the morning. Now, Lisa, are you doing trick or
treating this year?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
All right?
Speaker 11 (25:29):
So Riley's fifteen, so he might head out with his friends,
But I'm not going to be going out like as
an adult, okay, walking around with them?
Speaker 14 (25:37):
Probably not, Mikey b I'm assuming No. I mean I
might hand out candy at my house. I'm not going
to now, kid, I'm not going to walk around my cats.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Well I have good news for you both. Okay, right here,
how about this Airheads, you know, Airheads of candy giving
people a chance to win a creepy decoy boy. This
is a legitimate thing, and they're telling people the fake kid.
The fake decoy boy is a way for adults to
go trigger treating and not get hounded for being too old.
(26:06):
So you can go around to people's houses and get
candy with this fake child. It's like a baby that
goes like a carrot. It has a wagon. It's a
little boy in a wagon. Looks like Frankenstein.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
It's so creepy.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's so creepy, but it works for too long.
Speaker 16 (26:19):
Getting older has been giving up the joy of trick
or treating. Luckily, Airheads has a solution, The Decoy Boy.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Treat Airheads please. Oh I'm sorry, is this your child?
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (26:34):
The decoy Boy is a humanoid rollbot with innovative candy
extracting technology that makes it socially acceptable for you to
go trick or treating.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Please place Airheads into my human hand.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Can I have one more?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Please? Please?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Please?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And in case of emergency, there's always tantrum mode. Oh yay,
somebody needs to give that marketing guy a race.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I was just gonna say, great marketing. Yeah, so obviously
it sounds like it's fake. It's actually a real thing.
You can go to the Airhead's website and enter to
win this decoy Boy thing.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I have to tell you go to.
Speaker 11 (27:13):
Their instagram and check it out because it looks so creepy,
but it does look real.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah. Yeah, and by the way, like you know, we
do trick or treating every year. We spend some of
the time at the house, and there's always older people
that come, yeah, candy by themselves. Yeah, like they're dressed up,
but they're clearly like nineteen or twenty.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yeah, the older kids.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
What is the year that you stopped trick or treating?
Speaker 11 (27:34):
Okay, so that depends on the kid, but it's usually
eighth grade, you know, like fourteen, thirteen, fourteen, they're stage.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Out of it.
Speaker 14 (27:43):
Yeah, I think I remember, like, yeah, probably that around
that time, or like freshman year in high school of
framing him. But like you started doing it for like fun,
because you and your friends like your teats, get out
of the house and walk around the house and I
mean walk on the neighborhood with all your friends exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, I can't remember. Well, it was an incident when
I was younger with trick or treating. I had an
older cousin that was like probably four or five years older,
and you know, he was into some trouble. I wasn't
there yet, and I had Adjason Friday the thirteenth mask
my mom bought me and with fake blood, and she
asked me to go upstairs because my cousin lived upstairs
and have him put the blood on. So I went
(28:19):
upstairs and he did, and then I went out trick
or treating. And so I was probably about like nine
or ten years old, and I remember all night I
was going up to doors and they were looking at
me weird, the people. I didn't know why. And so
I get home and I walk in the house. My
mom looks at my mask and she's like, what is
on there?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I can't say on the radio what he drew on
the forehead of the mask, but the most offensive thing
in the entire world, and there I was trick or treating, Like, yeah,
it was traumatized me.
Speaker 14 (28:48):
So I never dressed up again after that. Why do
I see Justin be on that like steals all the
kids candy Back in the day.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Uh, Now you know I did the whole like toilet
paper thing. Yeah, you know, you toilet paper like the
tree and of people's houses. I did that stuff.
Speaker 14 (29:01):
Is it weird that when I see that now, if
I do see it, I'm like, oh, I'm happy that
kids are still doing something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I mean, it's better than being in their house on
their phone.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Every good old fashioned back.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, I'm just saying. So, yeah, it's on a Friday
this year, Halloween.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, that's good. This is a good This is going
to be a really good weekend, which.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Is really good for the kids. Now at least, I
know you live kind of on a main street, do you, Yeah,
we never.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Get trigger treaters.
Speaker 11 (29:23):
Like our first year when we moved in, I had
all this candy and yeah, our driveways a long, and
we're on the other side of the street, so the
sidewalk is on the other is on the opposite side.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So yeah, so we like never get anyone.
Speaker 14 (29:35):
I actually am the perfect spot of a dead end
called the sack, but we also don't. And after you
think about this the other day, is it simply because
families aren't having as many kids.
Speaker 11 (29:45):
I think it's I think they go to neighborhoods now
where they can get the most bang for their buck.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
It's just that's what you do.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
So we like always go to like this other neighborhood
and it's like super easy to walk around.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
They can hit like two hundred houses.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
That's what you're saying. If you don't think that they
think that I'm to give away the good candy.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I don't know, I mean bars like.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Upgrade you should be given out full candy. Yeah, an
upgrade you've made it to a point exactly. That's another argument.
Another debate too, is dropping the kids off at different neighborhoods. Yeah,
better neighborhood. They do it in my neighborhood in Saan,
New Hampshire. They dropped the kids off, which I'm fine with.
Your neighborhood is a winning neighbor's a winning neighborhood for sure.
But I see people I've never seen in my life.
Speaker 11 (30:25):
Well, we usually go to a neighborhood where we have friends,
so it's not like it's like the neighborhood we've never
been to.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
But yeah, yeah it happens.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, I'm looking forward to Halloween. I had you go
in to Mikey's house for Halloween trick or treating, Like,
what's going on in that house? Come on, come on, hey,
I got a hot tub
Speaker 8 (30:42):
In the board.
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