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October 13, 2025 30 mins
Is having a messy partner a deal breaker? Jay Shetty joins the show and so does James Austin Johnson from SNL. Listen to Billy & Lisa weekdays from 6-10AM on Kiss 108!   
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Good morning everybody, welcome back to the show, Happy Monday
and all that good stuff. I'm justin and yes, I
have a pair of jingle Ball tickets right now in
my hand. The show is completely sold out. Coming up
December fourteenth, starring Ed Sharon, an amazing lineup. If you
want to see Ed, we love him so much, give
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(00:24):
will be perfect. How's that. In the meantime, Lisa, you're
sitting on a study. You love to find these studies,
and they're always good because they generate such good conversation
in thought, What do you got?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
This one actually is really interesting. It says a third
of Americans admit a partner's messiness makes them less attractive. So,
whether it's dirty socks or towels laying all over the floor,
thirty seven percent of partner's messiness made them feel less
attracted to them, and then sixty one percent admitted that
clutter causes tension in their relationship.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, I got to tell you.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
When I first moved on to campus at Merrimack College,
my biggest fear was having a roommate who I didn't
know and have never met, and it turns out he
was from Canada and a complete slob.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I would clean up after him.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, you're very OCD, so I can totally see that happening.
I always look at someone's car.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
You can tell a lot of by all a person
by how clean their car is on the inside.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yes, very much so.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's harder I think with families, like with young kids
and stuff like that to keep a car like, you know,
really really really clean.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
But that is a good thing. I actually agree with
this list. Yeah, it would be a deal breaking for me.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I have a friend who went on a first date
with a girl that he was into, you know, physically
attracted to her.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
They had a good connection. They went on a date,
she offered to pick him up, she came, he got
in the car, they went to dinner, she dropped him off,
and he never spoke to her again because her car
was so dirty on the inside.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh yeah, there was stuff was ash on the floor.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
It's like mashed clambelly French frise.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
He looked down in between the seats. He could see
all the food that fell. O. God, no, which is
tough to get out. But for me, my wife when
we moved in together, kind of changed me. I mean,
I mean, I'm a clean but like I'm a dude.
So I lived by myself, so I wasn't the cleanest.

Speaker 7 (02:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I was a little messy. And my wife is very
clean and she got me into order pretty fast. Yeah,
you know, the clutter and all that. See, I loved
the years when I lived alone. All due respect to
my wife, I'm even happier now, but living alone, I
didn't have to worry about anything.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Everything was constantly well you're you're a free Yeah, you're
so neat. Yeah, I'm talking about all over the marina.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
You like you have cleaners come and then you clean
after they leave.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I cleaned before they get there too. No one am
I being judged. One of my favorite Billy stories happened
this summer. We went to Peetown. We sailed down on
Billy's boat. It was fantastic. Three couples. You know, I'm starving.
It's a two hour journey to pee Town. We get
off and my wife, I say to my wife, you
know when I go eat now stop. My wife goes
I'm starving to we docked there, right, Lisa, And I'm like,

(03:15):
let's go, and they're like, no, we can't leave yet.
Bill has to wash down the boat with a hose, okay,
and there's Billy. Then he comes and gets me. It
makes me drag all these hoses up to help them,
and there he is hosing down. Hold on, ready for
at least the clean boat.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Here's the thing about boating, though, it's just a giant
flex okay, especially you.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Go into a visiting marina.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
You want to make sure, you know, everything looks good, shiny,
but you want to get the salt off to it,
you know what I mean, No freak with it.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
I'm a freak.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I wanted the lobster role. I just landed. It was
my cheat, weak vacation. And you're hosing it down.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, I was on the boat, I don't know, maybe
like a year ago, and you know we were all
like eating, and Billy like we were all sitting at
like the little bar are still area, and you were
cleaning up before anyone had stopped eating their lunch. Like
you had the spray bottle out with a napkin and
you were like spraying around all of our plates Yeah,
it was really weird.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, it's it's my wife, Michelle's pet peeve.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Like she'll be having a lunch, yeah, and I'll come
walking over and I'll spray the counter.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
And she'll lift up her dish. I'm my god, what
are you doing? Like like chemicals? I'm like, right, I
don't know. There was a spot on the counter.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
And imagine he wanted my wife and I to sleep
on his boat, and why don't you sleep on the boat?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
How about no ware?

Speaker 4 (04:37):
No god.

Speaker 7 (04:37):
Business's story about the friend who went on the day
and the car was mess and he never called them
again makes me think of that episode of Friends where
Ross went out with Rebecca Romain and you went back
to her apartment and it was so disgusting and put
his hand in like putting or something while they were
making out, and it was a rat and a bag
of chips.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
What's up? And we're back with Villy and Lisa in
the morning.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
I'm not really a morning person, but if I got
to wake up early, might as well get a good
laugh on Kiss went Away?

Speaker 6 (05:07):
All right?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
So the iHeartRadio app boasts many podcasts. You can find
this podcast of this show right here. The Billion Lisa
show on there. It's easy to start Billy and Lisa
in the morning, but another podcast that is super popular.
He even had Cardi b on recently. Is Jay Shetty?
What a resume this guy has and we have him
on the phone right now.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Who's excited?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Jay Shetty, Good to have you on the show. This
is so cool.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Global best selling author, award winning podcast host, chief Purpose
officer of Calm, purpose driven entrepreneur, fifty million followers, and
you finally made it to the Billy and Lisa Morning show.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
This officially puts you over the top.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Jay, I'm so great to meet you, boss. Thanks for
having me.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, we're happy you're coming to Boston. So what can
people expect, you know, with your on Purpose tour when
you come to the Box Center, you're saying there're going
to be some surprise guests.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
Yes, I'm so excited. I'm going to be bringing my
podcast for a live in person experience. I'll be interviewing
a very special guest for the audience. We'll be doing
a Q and A session so people can ask me questions,
the audience questions. I'll be leading us all in a
meditation and so it's going to be a truly memorable evening,
and I can't wait for people to come out.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Can you tell us who these surprise people might be?

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Jay, it might be coming out shortly, we may It's
definitely someone who's known for being in Boston. Let's say that.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Ah. But then again, if you told us it wouldn't
be a surprise guest anymore. What did Jake?

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Exactly?

Speaker 8 (06:34):
Exactly?

Speaker 6 (06:34):
But I promise it'll be worth it.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I got to tell you, Jay, there's so many people
I've told over the past week that Lisa and I
were going to be talking to Jay Sheddy.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
They were overwhelmed.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Their immediate reaction was, oh, my god, I love him
so much.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
Oh I love that. That makes me so happy, and
send my love to them.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Please, I shall, I shall.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Now I'm looking at a long list of other major
celebrities that you've had on, everybody from Kobe Brian to
j Lo will Smith, Selena Gomez and Benni Blanco.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I thought was a wonderful, wonderful interview.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Jay, Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, they're the best.
It was incredible to have such a beautiful conversation with
both of them, and it was amazing to see people
all over the internet talk about positive masculinity and healthy love,
and I think it's made everyone hopeful to find real
love again, which is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Jay, You've been producing content for like ten years, You've
been helping people navigate this crazy world that we live in.
Why do you think people are craving all of these
types of conversations.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
I think lives, just if we're honest's got harder for everyone.
It's difficult. It's challenging, whether that be work, whether it
be outside of work, whether it be family. I think
people have more stress in their lives. People are busier,
they have less help, and so I think it's a
time when people are really seeking and I think also
at the same time, there's a great appetite for wanting
to build habits and improve their lives and improve their

(07:56):
sleep and improve the quality of their relationships, which, by
the way, I believe it are all good things because
if we make a difference when things are easy and
things are a bit better for us, then things become
better for us in the long term. So I think
it's amazing that people opening up to all of these ideas,
whether it's through podcast, books, live events, and everything else.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Jay let me ask you this. These are crazy times
right now. We keep hearing the word seeing the word anxiety.
People are very anxious. They're very nervous between inflation and
tariffs and the cost of things for your house, for
your home, for your family. If we were in a
session right now and we were telling you we were anxious,

(08:39):
we were freaked out, what would you tell us?

Speaker 6 (08:41):
The first thing I'd say is that's normal, and that's natural.
It's not a weakness. It's normal right now to feel anxiety.
It's natural to feel anxiety, and I think we need
to stop feeling like there's something wrong with us. If
we feel it, we almost think there's some glitch, or
there's some mistake we made, or that it's not meant

(09:01):
to happen. I think that's what's meant to happen. If
things are uncertain, we will feel anxiety. What I would
say is that in times of uncertainty, we often look
for certainty to feel stable. But instead of looking for certainty,
we should look for service. Look for opportunities to help
someone else, look for opportunities to make someone else's day.

(09:22):
Sometimes you'll relieve your anxiety quicker by trying to help
someone else. Than you will by trying to solve your
own and so I think we will find a lot
more meaning and a lot more connection if we help
others more than even trying to solve our own anxiety.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I know that you talk a lot about the practice
of meditation, and I keep telling Billy that he needs
to meditate, But why should we all be doing it?

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Well, I think it's because of what we just spoke about.
There's such a newfound, you know, origination of stress through
so many things, whether it's you wake up in the
morning and you spill your coffee, or you know, you
get to work and you're already fifteen minutes late because
of the traffic, or you get to a meeting and
you realize there's a task that's been incomplete. I think

(10:05):
there's so many moments in the day that creates trust.
So what we need is a practice that helps us
balance that out. We need a practice to bring us
back into feeling centered, and meditation does just that. So
what I often recommend to people is, if you're feeling stressed,
you're feeling like you're out of alignment today, breed out
for longer than you breathe in, so breed in for

(10:26):
accounterfeit all and breed out for more than four If
you excel for longer than you in hell, it relaxes
your body and mind. Again, when your breath gets shallow
and your breath gets quicker, you want to deepen it
and slow it down.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
That's what I've been doing wrong. I'm breathing in the
wrong direction. You're a shallow breather, Jay.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
If you don't mind, I want to read a couple
of your quotes and have you elaborate on you. If
you don't mind, I love this one. The longer you
stay on the wrong train, the more expensive it is
to get home. Please elaborate.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Yes, I shared that the the day. It's not one
of mine. It's someone that I shared earlier this week.

Speaker 9 (11:03):
But no, I love that quote.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
It's I think for so many of us we feel
we maybe got on the wrong job, or for so
many of us, we feel we got into the wrong relationship.
And I think a lot of us are scared of
leaving something that feels bad because we're scared of the unknown.
But the reality is, if we stay on that train
for too long, if we stay in that relationship for

(11:24):
too long, with that job for too long, it actually
becomes harder to find our way back. So it's never
too late to quit. It's never too late to pause,
it's never too late to stop. It's important to do
that as soon as you feel you can. So I
try to encourage people to not put this pressure on
themselves to push something or force something to work if
it's not serving them.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Do you have a favorite book?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I know you have two books out, but do you
have a favorite book that you always go back to?

Speaker 6 (11:49):
Oh that's a great question. One of my favorite books
of all time is probably Thinking Fast and Slow by
Daniel Kaman. It's a brilliant, brilliant book really breaks down
how the mind works, how the mind tricks us, how
our thoughts work. I love that book.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Jay, you spent three years as among you were meditating
eight hours a day, and then you realize there are
a lot of similarities between that world and the digital world.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
How so well I found the connection between what I
was learning, and I was thinking, Wow, this would really
help people that I grew up with, and you know,
my generation and then every generation that's now living in
the digital world. I find that if you're living in
a constant digital landscape with a screen in front of you,
having practices and habits that allow you to detox and

(12:38):
disconnect or even more important. And so I'm grateful that
I've now been able to see the fruits of that labor,
because you know, just around ten years ago it is
just an idea, and now I've seen the impact of it.
It gives me even more confidence that these tools that
are thousands of years old are actually so practical and impactful.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
You're not still meditating eight hours a day, are you, Jane?

Speaker 9 (13:00):
Not even close, not even close.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
It's nowhere near. I don't think I could. I don't
think I could hack that with my with my schedule,
but I do go back to the monastery every January
with my wife to do that. So we do go
back and start our year there, which is one of
our favorite things to do.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Every time your name comes up, Jay, everyone says, oh,
my God, I love him so much. But they also say, God,
he has the most beautiful blue eyes I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Do you hear how many times a day.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Do you hear that?

Speaker 6 (13:27):
I hear it often. I'm very grateful for it. But
I can't take any credit for them, because I didn't
do anything for them. So it's it's one of those
Cats twenty two situations where yeah, it's like what do
you do when you didn't earn them or take credit
for them? So yeah, I'm grateful.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
So they're not contacts.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Definitely, No, definitely no, I am king Day.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
I know you're I know you're coming to Boston.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Have you been here much?

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yes? I have. Yeah, I actually performed at the Wang
Theater I believe two years ago as well, So I've
been before. I've told that before. I've always loved coming
to Boston and excited to be there again soon.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
So how can people find you? You're here? May fifteenth?
Where should they go to get tickets?

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Yes, I'll be at the Wine Stains and May fifteenth,
head to Jayschetti dot me forward slash Tour for tickets
to Jay Shetty dot me Forward slash Tour and.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
The Wayne Center Wayne Theater Rather is a beautiful venue.
As you know, you've done it before, which is why
you're coming back and doing it again.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Jay.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
We can't thank you enough for giving us the time.
I know you're really busy. Oh my god, fifty can
you give up a few of your followers send them
our way fifty million, Jay.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
I love it. I love it. You guys are the best, No,
and I can't wait to see you the.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Show from the Planet Fitness Kiss one of eight studios.
We're back with Billy and Lisa in the morning.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Welcome back everybody, Final hour Billion Lias' show on a
Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Thanks for rocking with us.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
As always, if you watch SNL which just premiered last week,
President Trump, the guy who does the impersonation is is
James Austin Johnson. He actually was in Gloucester recently and
checked in with us before the show because well it
was his first time here. We had to get him
ready for his big show. By the way, this guy
his impressions unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's right, it's me hot Jack Trump. They finally got
the body right. He rose from the dead on the
third day. I would have done it fast. They possibly,
I'll elect anyone I started that.

Speaker 9 (15:24):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's me, Hi, I'm the problem. It's me the good morning.

Speaker 9 (15:30):
James, you got it, baby?

Speaker 8 (15:32):
What's up everybody?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
How you doing well?

Speaker 5 (15:34):
I gotta tell you, James, I really was hoping you'd
be in the studio live doing Trump this morning.

Speaker 10 (15:40):
Well, I'm in Princeton Junction train platform. Right now, I'm
trying to get on a train to get up there
to Boston. I did a show at Princeton last night,
entertained the children of America.

Speaker 8 (15:51):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (15:52):
I mean they're about to have all their funding cut.
I mean, these these universities. You know, we really got
to these Princeton kids. They come from meager background, rough neighborhoods,
and I'm there to provide us service as it could
all go away.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
You know, any moment life is short.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, that's what we love about you, James. You're always
giving back.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
I'm a big you know, I'm comedy. It's you know,
it goes.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
Comedy and volunteering and not necessarily in that order.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
I gotta tell you, James, the place you're performing is
in Glocester, beautiful town. But the Cut is a fairly
new place. It's a very cool room. I think you're
gonna love it.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
I can't wait to perform, you know, I do.

Speaker 10 (16:28):
I do. I've been doing comedy all summer and I
you know, I feel rested, I feel ready, not tan.
I'm pretty pale. But I think that's gonna be fair,
you know, it's gonna be part of the course for Gloucester,
I think.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
And James, since we have you, I got to ask,
what the hell is going on with Saturday Night Live?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Why is everybody leaving?

Speaker 11 (16:51):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (16:52):
You know, I think we had the.

Speaker 10 (16:53):
Big sn L fifty celebration and there are a lot
of people, you know, staying on for that. And what's
happening now is the same.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
Thing that happens at the beginning of every season.

Speaker 10 (17:06):
You know, there is just a molting period where you know,
how birds, you know, they pecked themselves to death, growing
new feathers. Things we're doing, we're slipping out of our
little snake skin. We're becoming something new and fresh. We're
getting the youth of America on the Showy. You know
what's great about season fifty one, People like James Austin

(17:27):
Johnson are just hitting their stride.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
He wasn't going anywhere I go.

Speaker 8 (17:34):
Yeah, so it'll be interesting.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
You know.

Speaker 10 (17:37):
I can't wait to get out there on that first
show and do it to him.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Now, I haven't heard I heard a rumor.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
I don't know if this is fact. Colin Joe's Michael
ja Are they leaving of the weekend update.

Speaker 10 (17:49):
Oh man, I am the last to hear about anything.
I'm the one with a three year old and you know,
stuff to do in the morning, so that nobody tells
me anything. I can't stay late at any hot Hollywood
parties finding out the hot goss because I gotta I
gotta help with potty training.

Speaker 8 (18:07):
So and you're asking the wrong guy.

Speaker 10 (18:08):
You need you need to get Marcello Hernandez on, somebody
who plays up past one a m.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, and don't forget you're also giving back to those
poor kids in Princeton.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Yeah, I'm a I'm a man of the community. I'm
a man of the people.

Speaker 10 (18:22):
I don't I don't got time to worry about Jay's contract.

Speaker 8 (18:25):
You're asking the wrong guy.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Yeah, okay, so the hell with everybody else. Okay, but
let me ask you this, what is the process for
getting on Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I've always wanted to know that.

Speaker 10 (18:37):
Oh, it seems like it's every It's it's different for everybody.
I went to stand up route, but a lot of people,
you know, they learn improv and and you know, finally,
I mean, this is probably the best way and bribe
Lorne Michaels, I know will Ferrell famously, you know, walked
up to the building with a briefcase full of money.
So you know, I you know, there's it could happen

(18:58):
for anybody, you know what I mean, you to be funny,
but you know I would I would suggest stalking, I
would suggest identity theft. It's mission impossible type scenario where
you repel down from the top of thirty Rock and
his office.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
So you know, there's lots of there's lots of paths.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Now is it is it hard to become friends with
fellow cast members?

Speaker 10 (19:22):
Oh not at all. We're all like, we're all comedians.
A lot of us have met each other on the
way up. Yeah, and uh so, But there's definitely you
you eventually meet people that become, you know, best friends.
You know, andrewis Mukes and I share an office and
I gave us gave a speech at Yeah he's great,
he's the maybe the best comedy writer alive. But I

(19:45):
gave a speech at his wedding. I roasted him pretty hard.
I said that, uh he's uh you want to hear
on my roast jokes from his uh west? Yeah, yeah,
I said, Andrew's tall and handsome, but you wouldn't know
it because he has the posture of the alien from America.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Dad.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
You know what is it with tall guys?

Speaker 10 (20:04):
How they're so afraid of being tall They've got to
flouch all over and accentuate their paunchy little bellies. You know,
if I was this is I'm done doing comedy now
I'm just talking.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
We're just having a conversation.

Speaker 9 (20:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
You know what's crazy?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
When I hear James talk in his regular voice, I
kind of hear Trump.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, how did you get that? Trump?

Speaker 11 (20:23):
All of these guys, by the way, excuse me, can
I finish?

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Please?

Speaker 11 (20:26):
Because there's too many tall guys and they don't stand up.
None of them are standing up, and too many people
are tall.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Chris Pine is too tall, Okay.

Speaker 11 (20:37):
He should be Paul Rudd. He should be five to
nine ball Rudd lovely short, not too tall five nine.

Speaker 9 (20:44):
Yeah, we love Paul aunt Man.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Short of that you've ever seen in your life?

Speaker 8 (20:50):
Man? You know, I would have done Uncle Man. I
would have I would have changed it.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
But that's good for him.

Speaker 8 (20:55):
I would do Uncle We do uncle Man, not aunt Man.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
We're talking to James Austin, who, by the way, is
President Trump On Saturday Night Live and is going to
be in the Gloucester tonight at the COT seven o'clock show.
And by the way, you can go to the exeit
go to the Cuttonlive dot com. So, James, I want
to give you a little tip about Glocester, okay, and
maybe a little material. Every year they have a legendary
event called the Greasy Pole. It's okay, biggest weekend of

(21:22):
the year in the town of Gloucester. I'll just leave
you with greasy Pole.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I'm sure you can work on that pole. A greasy pole.

Speaker 8 (21:30):
They got a greasy pole. We're gonna we're gonna be
looking into that. We're gonna do something about that shorty.

Speaker 11 (21:36):
We're gonna be looking into that nasty situation.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
James, before I let you go, you're in the Bob
Dylan movie. What are you playing it?

Speaker 10 (21:45):
Yeah? I snuff right in there. I'm like a guy
in the folk scene. I'm just one of those guys
that goes, wow, can he really sing?

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 10 (21:52):
You know music biopics, you got to have that one
guy who's like got his arms folded and then Bob
starts telling.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
And then you know, the arms.

Speaker 9 (22:01):
Unfold and they go whoa is this music?

Speaker 8 (22:03):
I'm that guy?

Speaker 5 (22:04):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking about James Austin Johnson.
And yeah, he's going to be at the Cut in
the Glocester tonight again. If you want tickets, guys, you
gotta go. Thanks so much, James, Welcome to Boston when
you get here.

Speaker 8 (22:15):
Thank you so much. Great talking with y'all.

Speaker 9 (22:17):
See at the Glocester.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
It's amazing how he goes in and out of it,
so cool like that.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's and we're back with Villy and Lisa in the morning.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Okay, that'll just about do it for the Villy and
Lisa Show on this Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Thank you so much for listening.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
A reminder your next shot has sold out jingle Ball
tickets starring at Sharon by the Way, coming up twelve
to ten with McCabe, then again at three ten with
the v Bros And Gianna. So we always talk about
Lisa's book club is such a big event, always sells out.
She has a good one coming up with Jeff Benedict,
who's a sports author. He wrote a book on Tiger Woods.

(22:52):
He also wrote the book that the Patriots Apple TV
series was based on. He's done her book club before
and he's doing it again. We had him on the
first time. What are the highlights of this year? If
you asked me, Jeff Benedict, this guy can write.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Hey, Jeff, you there, I am good morning. So Jennifer,
I got to make a point here if you don't mind.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Okay, I know New York Times Bestseller, Emmy Award winner, Right,
I'm not mistaken, right.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Keep going, hundreds of stories and essays.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
And you did Lebron James, you did Tiger Woods, obviously
the Dynasty. But you know what, Jeff, you haven't done
Lisa Dunovan's book Club yet. Welcome to the Octagon Day,
the Mother of All book Club.

Speaker 9 (23:42):
I was waiting for the punchline. Now you got it.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Yeah, Well, thank you so much Jeff for doing this.
Lisa's doing a fabulous show with the book club, and
I think you're really really going to enjoy the experience.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
I can't wait, really looking forward to it. I think
it's tremendous and it's great just because it's right the
heart of Boston, so it was a New Englander. I'm
looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
The link is up, registrations are rolling in.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I'm cold.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
So we're going to fill this thing up. In the
next hour or two, it will be sold out. But
I mean, Jeff, we as a group here, we would
come in and watch the docuseries The Dynasty on Apple TV,
and then we would come in and just talk about it.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Right, yeah, because there were so many parts that just
gave us so many questions and I got a lot
of chills during the docu series justin you want to
play a clip from the Brady Revenge Tour that season.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
It was like a song from Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
He was like, look what you made me do?

Speaker 4 (24:43):
It was a year. I'mal baby said that for a
long time.

Speaker 9 (24:51):
That poling for us anyway, great.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
First touchdown.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
This dude is on another level to begin with, I'm
kid as hell of Brady, right man.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
You could tell he was angry in your life. The
King is back here you goes watch, you get pissed
off and go, Jeff, do you still get the chills
when you watch or hear some of this?

Speaker 6 (25:26):
Yeah? Actually I do.

Speaker 9 (25:27):
I Mean one of the things that for me, at
least that was really satisfying and fun about making the
documentary that was different than the book is that we
got to use music like we use Taylor Swift, The
Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Freddie Mercury as a way to
really bring emotion and power of some of the scenes
in the film. That it's obviously a very different medium

(25:50):
than the book. The book will always be probably the
thing I love the most because I spent a few
years with the Patriots team writing that book while was
in his final two seasons in New England. By the
time we made the documentary, Tom was gone and things
were different, But it was just an opportunity to do
something on television that you can't do on the page.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
One of the things that we talked about a lot
when we were watching it was that it seemed like
it was a little harsh on Belichick.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Would you agree with that?

Speaker 9 (26:23):
Not really? I mean I think I actually thought we
were pretty soft on Bill, you know. I think what's
jarring for people though, and the reason I understand why
some people think that, and that's a feeling that's actually
pretty limited to New England and particularly like hardcore Pats fans,
but is that you're seeing Bill on television in an

(26:46):
environment that you never see him in before. Bill doesn't
really do interviews. He does press conferences, and he kind
of has a stick that he does in a press conference.
In this situation, he was in a very foreign environment.
He's sitting in an interview chain being asked questions that
he's really never had to deal with before, and so
he looks very stiff, he looks uncomfortable, and the fact

(27:09):
is he was stiff and uncomfortable in that environment. But
I think if you look at the series in its totality,
what you do see is you see who Bill is.
He was a very tough, taciturned successful football coach who
had a huge part in why the Patriots were so
dominant for twenty years. And then you contrast that with Tom,

(27:31):
who's kind of the other half of that equation, and
their personalities are very different, but the way they came
together it's pretty remarkable what they achieved. But I mean, look,
you're seeing Bill as Bill in the series.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
So did you get calls or email or text from
Bill or from Robert or from Tom the first time
they saw the docu series?

Speaker 9 (27:55):
No, no, no, I mean I would never. I mean
I definitely heard a lot. Well, you know, look, you
get to know people as I was in this thing
for five or six years, right, I mean I worked
on these two things back to back. I went from
the book to the series, so like five or six
years of my life was invested in telling the dynasty

(28:17):
story in two different mediums. And you get to know
people pretty well and the organization well. And I feel
like I know that organization really well and the people
who are in it, and have a tremendous amount of
respect for everything that was done there, starting with the
crafts and how they built it and sustained it over
that twenty years. It's a remarkable run. By the way,

(28:40):
no team is going to catch them. The Chiefs, in
my opinion, at least, had very little chance of ever
replicating what the Patriots did.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Now, the Aaron Hernandez chapter must have been a difficult
for you to navigate.

Speaker 9 (28:56):
I mean as a storyteller, it really wasn't that hard.
Look a ton has been written and said about that case.
And the nice thing is I wasn't writing a book
about Aaron Hernandez, nor would I want to. It's a
pretty depressing subject. However, if you're going to write a
definitive history of the Patriots dynasty over a twenty year period,
you can't just kind of skip over that, like it

(29:17):
didn't happen. It's a part of the dynasty that actually
happens right in the middle of the two Super Bowl runs,
the first run in the early two thousands and then
the back end run in the late twenty teens. Hernand
sits right in the middle of that. And that's kind
of a little bit of a dark spot.

Speaker 8 (29:36):
And so, I mean, I.

Speaker 9 (29:37):
Covered it in the book over like a couple of chapters.
In the series, we dealt with that whole thing within
one episode.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I can't even imagine the relationship between you and the
videographers and the editors taking your story, putting it to film,
putting it to pictures. It just seems like such a
complicated process.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
It that's why it took over five years.
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