June 18, 2025 • 40 mins
The Billy & Lisa Show cover a whole bunch of topics during today’s show, including Brad Marchand winning the Stanley Cup, and Katherine Loftus coming to break down the end of the Karen Read case. Listen to Billy & Lisa weekdays from 6-10AM on Kiss 108!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now this morning show in Boston, Billy and Lisa in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's just a great start to my day.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
On kids one. Await, Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, old boy is right, Oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Hey, everybody, welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It's a Wednesday and it's the Billy and Lisa Morning Show.
It's gonna be a big show. I'm excited. First of all,
the Mega Match Game is happening at eight ten this morning. Okay,
you gotta be ready.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm still blown away by the board.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Me too. It's so big.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thank you, it's.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Colorful, it's big, and it's impressive.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It really is.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
It's got a lot of prizes up there for all
of you for the taking.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yes, if your caller twenty five at eight ten.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah. So we've got some high heat coming in rightday.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Not until like Monday.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
We'll hit Mike close to one hundred a lot of
humidity Monday Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No what, oh boy. I love the heat. I can't wait.
Legitimately love it.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I'll go out for a running up. I know you
think I'm crazy, but I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, I love the heat when I run too, But
I don't know a hundred degrees is oppressive.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But is it humid or dry humid?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Oh god, that is oppressive, hot and human.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Okay, you get a good.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Sweat in a lot of sweat, good cleansing, good organ
clean sweat.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But it's been so cold for June lately. I'll take
you and I.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Got to tell you this happens every time there's a
heat wave. Every time it really gets hot, the AC
shuts down in your house. Try to get the air
conditioning guy.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Don't because we're on the second floor.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's hot, Yeah, it's you got to get a fan out.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, but when it's so humid, the fan does not.
It just moves the hot.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Air, blowing the hot heat into your face.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You know, my AC went out last year last summer,
and I left the and came and slept on the
floor in my studio.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I would have done the same thing.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm on the fourth floor. So it's even though
it's sixty today, it's still hot in my house. Out
of the acon because it was seventy seven in my house.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, if it exceeds one hundred degrees you could literally
burst into flames.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Well, it was one hundred and eleven in Nevada. I
think this week.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, but they have dry heat, so it probably not.
It doesn't even feel that bad.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
See, I don't think the dry heat was I don't. Yeah,
I know it's all the same.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's very hot, No, but it feels way nicer when
it's dry.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
It's stifling hot when it's humid.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't breathe.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm just going to spend the entire week wearing
a string bikini.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
MEO.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh, we have fun, don't we. Lisa Dundavan.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I was thinking that I was going to sleep last night.
Lisa Dundovan in a few hours is going to Iceland.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I have a stomach ache. I see a suitcase is
packed in the office.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, I'm going right to the airport. I have a
stomach ache over this hike. I have to tell you,
Like I'm athletic, Like I can get through the hike.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's just it's just the climate changes through the hike.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, and the isolation, Like the isolation could get lost if.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Something happened, because you just follow these metal poles.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
There's no guide. She convinced her son to try to
kill her. I really do.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
There are certain parts of the hike that remind me
of Mount Everest where you're climbing over these i mean
little crevices and you could fall off either side and
there's no guide.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, there's no guide. It's a pole. It's a metal pole,
and you follow the poles.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, they drive up to a sign. That's the only
communication they have with any Icelanders. It's a sign telling
you here's the trail.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Ironically, you know what the poles are called, Karen's.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's funny a hike.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, it's fifteen miles.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And it's like every different terrain. I was showing Billy
the pictures. You've got massive water falls that's beautiful, which
is beautiful, and then you go into this rocky terrain,
and then you go into something that looks like Mars,
and then you go on the glacier and you're walking
through snow and I'm like, this just doesn't seem fun.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
By the way, I got an answer from Michelle's cousin Donal,
who does the expeditions all over the world. He got
back to me yesterday again because I said, well, Lisa
is arriving with the boys wednesday, and he texted back.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
He said, oh my god, Emma and I are leaving wednesday.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Afternoon on another journey, so they're just gonna miss He's
got a.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Guy that takes us through Africa. No guy, no guy,
just polls.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You want pole position always. It's just I'm literally I
have like.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
You'll be fine. The boys will take care of you.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
They're not. They know they're not. They're going to come
running for mommy.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Anything happened, No, Max and Riley, good kids, good evening.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
I just wanted to tell this quick story. I was
at a market Milton tonight, a place I go to
a lot. I see Lisa there often. I don't fan
girl her because she looks busy when I see her.
But tonight I was leaving. My arms were full. Two
young men were coming in, and the youngest of the
two doubled back and grabbed the door to make sure
that I got out easily, very rare, and I realized
(05:19):
they were Lisa's sons and it was her youngest son
that grabbed the door.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Great job, Lisa, Well that's nice. Thanks Riley for being
he'll do that for that lady. But a good citizen.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, I sent him to get power bars for the walk. No,
because they've got these hots that you stop it and
you make ramen noodles on a hot plate.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
To me, this could be my worst.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's literally I am the one person that would.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Never I'm actually nervous for you. Now. I thought you
I thought you were going to have a guide. I
thought that it was a very you know, planned out thing.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, last time they showed up at the trail, it
was closed and they drove three hours to get there.
They had to turn around and go back.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
That was the ice Cave, the super cheap ice Cave tour.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh yes, yes, that was last year.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, and then I don't even want to say what happened,
like a month later, someone literally died in the ice cave.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, it's just and.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, I think you should need a satellite phone.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, we have the battery pack.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, just in case you might need a sat phone.
You're in total isolation out there. How cool would that
be though? If the choppers had to come in and
find them, and then the chopper arrives. Riley's in his
ramen noodles.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Can you leave talkbacks while you're there? You have service
on your phone?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Ironically, the service in Iceland is very good. Okay, yeah,
it's better than in parts of.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Milton Wow, this is exciting.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
We're going to miss you.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, I'll be back on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, let's hope you get back to us.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
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We're back with the Villa and Lisa in the morning.
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Squeeze into talk back please can we get one?
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Speaker 10 (07:23):
So I have a beta fish and I read that
the only other fish that will survive with them is catfish.
So I got three little catfish and they've all been
living peacefully.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But guess what.
Speaker 10 (07:35):
One is pregnant. So now she's laying eggs all over
the fish tank and we're gonna have a ton of
baby catfish. So I guess now I'm a fish lady.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hanky panky and the fish tank.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I guess. So runs me a joke.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Actually, you know the difference between a lawyer and a catfish.
One is a scum sucking bottom dweller, the other is
a fish.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Now the entertainment updates with.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The Billy Hobstuf.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Hey, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
These have to be the cutest fish I think I've
ever seen. Hey, the Florida Panthers are the Stanley Cup
champions this morning.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Second year in a row. They took out the Oilers
last night. Celebrate pet.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But Tarna Patters their second Stanley come.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah. Brad marshan big factor in this series, talked last
night about the last minute trade that sent him from
the Bruins to the.
Speaker 12 (08:41):
Probably most proud of my family, but they took them
a lot believing and and just you know, sacrifice of
being away, you know, and there's a lot that goes
on at home and you have when you have a
wife and kids and you got a whole life there
you move away from.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, he's got a Stanley Cup now. Right before the game,
Marshawn got a message from his wife and kids. It's
meat really, Hey daddiot, Hey Papa, it's long boy.
Speaker 13 (09:06):
Congratulations getting onto the Stanley Cup finals.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
It's a lot of work and effort that you have to.
Speaker 14 (09:13):
Put in for It's been so awesome to watch you
over my whole childhood and growing up and seeing the
man you become and all that you've done.
Speaker 15 (09:24):
No matter what happens in the game, we're still proud
of you.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's still lot.
Speaker 13 (09:27):
Us and we got you.
Speaker 14 (09:29):
I love you so much.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
The best die in the hall.
Speaker 14 (09:33):
Why, um, just know we're all very proud of you
over here, and no matter how this year comes to
an end and how this finals end up, I just
know we all love you and for you, and you
always got a family here with open arms when you
come home.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Love you, Papa, good thing.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Huh hell wow, hello Papa.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, that was a tough listen this morning. Yeah, oh
my god, that was nice.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay. NBA Finals Thunder in the Pacers Game six tomorrow night.
Thunder lead the series three games too. We could have
an NBA champion tomorrow, right yep. Red Sox game six
game winning streak came to an end in Seattle. Mariners
shut out the Socks eight zip. Raphael Devers, in his
first game as a Giant, went two for five with
(10:26):
an RBI double. And remember we had our sports guy
Dan Shaughnessy on the show yesterday saying.
Speaker 16 (10:33):
This first base against the Red Sox Friday night in
San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
You're going to see him out there, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
And Devers, through a translator yesterday said this, like I said.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Before, playing here to play where ever they want me
to do, and.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, he won't do that here.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We refuse to play first base here in Boston.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, And don't forget the Socks and the Giants play
this weekend in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Selena Gomez did a remix of her twenty nineteen song
I Can't Get Enough for the release of her new Oreos.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, I can't, I can't crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's a nice little gift for her fans.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Sure can't get enough.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And Oreo lovers.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
If you if you get the Oreos, there's a QR code.
You can scan it with your phone and the song plays.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
So Justin Bieber and Scooter Brown will finally settle their feud.
They reached some sort of settlement on a ton of
money that Bieber now supposedly owed Scooter. Where's he getting
the money?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
I thought, well, it could be from Haley, his wife,
because she just scored that big deal with Elf Cosmetics
for her Road beauty brand.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Which just all makes sense, right TMZ drops the documentary,
unveils that all the money is owed, and then Haley
sells her business a million dollars and now it's going
to be paid. What the hell happened to Justin Bieber?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well, I don't know what he owes her, but I
mean she got a billion, so it's close to a billion. Yeah, whoa.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, well he blew his supposedly, and now he's spending hers.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, well, she's helping him out.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I still think he's one of the most talented people
walks the planet, though he really is.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, it's too bad.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I hope he finds his way. As they say, the
prosecution expected to arrest by this coming Friday.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
In the Diddy trial, do you think the defense will
put on its own case?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, they kind of have to. Why wouldn't they.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
I didn't even know defense could do that until the
Canery trial. I just thought it was one thing and
then that was it.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Now the jury was shown videos of the freak offs, Yeah,
several videos. Yeah, and some of them were laughing.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, a couple of they were laughing.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's message.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know what they what they saw, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Regardless whatever they saw, why are you laughing? Well, sometimes
people laugh because it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
A condition, nervous laughter.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, what is it IBS? I think it's called.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I thought that's when you care to the bathroom. That's
the other. Yeah, that's the other idea.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Maybe they're suffering from that.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I don't know. We have nothing on that yet.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
We'll try to get an update on the IBS among
the jury members.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So we go from a creepy story to a cool story.
Our Ina Grande's grandmother died this week. That's sad. She
was ninety nine. But her grandmother actually appeared on a
couple of Ariana songs, including this one.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We never go to bed with them, kiss good night.
Speaker 17 (13:47):
It's the worst thing to do.
Speaker 16 (13:50):
Never do that, and if you can't, then if you
don't feel comfortable doing it, you're in the wrong place.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
To get out.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh my god, her nana nine years old?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
What a legend. Yeah, Okay, it's not IBS, Sorry, Bills,
it's pbabia.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Pseudo bulber affect PBA causes frequent episodes of uncontrollable crying
or laughing in people with brains or neurologic conditions like.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Stroke, dementia, or MS.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
It's a neurologic condition sure, not psychological, and it's treatable.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah that's what Billy has.
Speaker 16 (14:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
See, you never get this kind of information anywhere else right.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I don't think there's any other radio show in the
world right now talking about that that condition, PABA, PBS, PBI.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It would suck if you have PBA and IBS.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, that wouldn't be good.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, that's not a good combo.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Did you say PBS.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And there's a lot going on. The IBS and the PBA.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
PBS would be the public broadcast.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Is that's still on?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, I think the White House trying to end more
information that you only get here on the billion Lisa
Morning Show.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
But I okay, okay, Big Papa, and I love this
next story.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Mariah Carey does not acknowledge her birthday. She does not
acknowledge time. Check this, Riya.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Is it true you don't acknowledge the possitive time? That
is true? What you mean by that? I just don't
believe in it. What do you mean time zones? No, no,
just time, just time. Times and no clocks. No, no,
just not into that. Yeah, I don't let it go.
Do you celebrate the birthday?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I don't have a birthday.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I love her. She does look good, she's gorgeous.
Speaker 14 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Does she just not celebrate her own birthday? Like because
her kids have birthdays?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's a good.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Question about age charging for her time and age like
she's never been on time for anything?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
True.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Oh my gosh. She was famous for.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
We were at the Way Billy and I and years
ago and she was four hours late.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
For the Christmas special.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, without explanation.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
She doesn't acknowledge time.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
So obviously very clear, now we understand it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
The first trailer for the new I Know What You
Did last summer movie is that we've got it.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I'm not going to help us.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And we'll find someone who will.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Isn't something I like talking about?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You survived? This one's we need your help.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I like those movies.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, they're pretty cool. Hey. The deadline to sell TikTok
is tomorrow, but speculation is the President will sign an
extension at some point today, and for the first time ever,
streaming viewership surpassed cable and broadcast combined. Wow, Well that
(16:56):
good or bad news for USS.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Well, you can stream us.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's right, we do nothing but streaming on the radio app.
Speaker 15 (17:03):
You're on it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
We're streaming everywhere.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Baby, We're streaming right now round the world. I'm just saying, oh,
a couple of other things I want to get in
the Karen Reid Trilly is really heating up. The jury
will enter another day of deliberation today. A lot of
questions are being sent to the judge, which makes it
even more interesting. Packed crowd outside the courthouse. They're all
back now and Catherine loftus our in house lawyer, is
(17:26):
going to join us in studio.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
What time seven?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And then right after eight o'clock, my son Chris Costa
is coming in. The Big Fanatics Festival is this weekend
in New York and my son Chris is going to
be hosting a panel with Tom Brady and actress Emma Roberts.
What is going on to my son?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
It's so random, Yes, especially because it's.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
The most random like job, like you know, card collecting, Yes,
Like is it a random hobby that he made into
a career.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Everybody listening did it as a kid, but now it's
something else. It exploded during the pandemic.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I hear he's bringing new card Vault by Tom Brady merch.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Well, I'll tell you one thing. If he's not bringing
the new merch, you should turn around right now, go back.
They have got an entire warehouse right over in Charleston.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Billy lives for merch, which is so funny to me.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well, it's embarrassing. He's my son. I don't have the
updated merch that says card Vault by Tom Brady, and
it's very cool merch.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You wear Panera hats you wear anybody that was an accident.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I thought it was a Lenox hotel.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You do it once a week. You had the Panera
hat on.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
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Speaker 7 (18:46):
Welcome Emma from the Planet's Fitness Kiss one Away Studios.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
We're back with a Villy and Lisa in the morning
on Kiss on eight.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
We're back and by the way, we are one an
hour away from playing the Mega match game, so stand
by for that. You want to get some talkbacks in justin.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
While the v Bros did not have a winner yesterday,
remember the first day they got a winner for Gimi
ball tickets. Somebody just randomly guessed.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Both numbers, which could happen.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It can happen. It's kind of rare.
Speaker 18 (19:19):
Captain Mike's investigation into those two scam out as from
framing him is still ongoing. But wouldn't it be great
if they did have another winner and the prize was
a night out with them.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
That's one of the prizes. Amazing, Yeah, I love him,
He's really good.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He's on it.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, Well, one of the prizes is the night with
the v Bros. Or another prize is a contown experience
looking to meet all of us would.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Be on the contown and a billion Lisa hoodie.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
And the billion Lisa hoodie too is added as well.
Yep ten The Mega Match game happens in the meantime though,
it's checking with the talkbackers.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I am Sarah. I was just wondering how this talkback
thing works, So send him a talkback and you played
on the radio.
Speaker 17 (20:01):
How do I know when it's going to be played?
Speaker 14 (20:04):
Like, what if I'm in between my car.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
And work and I just happen to miss it.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Just wondering, long time listener.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Thank you, Thank you, Sarah. That's a great question. I
have a couple of answers for you. First of all,
you never know when I'm going to play it back.
But there is a feature for the talkbacks where I
can I can let the person know it will be
played back within fifteen minutes or I know. Yeah, I
don't always do it because I'm very busy, so I
do my best.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I was going to tell them, you just have to
keep listening all day.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
And that's my other train of thought, Lisa, is you
have to listen because you never know, and you know,
it might be a topical talkback that I might play
rather quickly, or it could be in the leftovers, which
we do at around nine to twenty every morning.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know what you just did. You gave everybody some
talkback technology.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
It's talkback tips. Yeah. And by the way, if you
miss it and you don't hear it, you can always
listen on the podcast later on in the day and you.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Can share it with your friends. And relatives that you were.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
On the radio and you check in. I mean this
guy checks in every single day.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's the mayor of the South Bend.
Speaker 16 (21:06):
I know you guys are going on a well deserved
four day weekend, but I want to be mind everybody.
Don't forget the Pizza Bowl which is going on in
City Hall Saturday and Sunday, and you get to vote
on the best pizza.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And then the.
Speaker 16 (21:20):
Words of Susan Lucci when she finally won her Emmy.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
The streak is over. No rain this Saturday.
Speaker 16 (21:27):
Have a great weekend, everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Whoa did he really have a Susan reference?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Well yeah, one hundred years old. Yeah, it's okay, but yeah,
the Pizza Festival is this weekend. Winning you're going I'm
going to go on Saturday. She's skipping my daughter's birthday
party for the pizza Festival.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Ohah yeah, okay, yeah, I mean go to Salm New Hampshire,
hang out two year olds, or go to City Hall
posity pizza.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
With you it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Did you call for a press pass or something from
the can do that?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Probably call City Hall pluza.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, I'm gonna press that.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It'll be great. It'll be it'll be a great time.
And yeah, my my daughter's birthday party is Saturday. And
like the mayor said, no rain, Yeah, no rain. Imagine
all these weekends in a row with rain and the
first one is the birthday.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Now are you still getting the limp pony?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Oh? This isn't no, this is an ongoing saga at all.
I can't get too much into it. But she was
on the phone with the farmer all day yesterday. This
guy has a character. Okay, this guy. So now she
booked the pony for an hour, okay, and they're gonna
come for two hours with the full petting zoo, but
the hour with the pony. Now the guy saying, it's
we only get a half hour because this is the
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backup pony. The original pony got injured.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Oh so the backup pony's probably tired and used to Probably.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I'm convinced donkey giving you they're gonna give a difference.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
What's the difference?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
A big difference between donkey and Well, first of all,
the pony looks like a little horse.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
The donkey looks like a donkey.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Isn't that okay?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Just the kid and the kids know different.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Maybe it's a mule, but a donkey and the same thing.
Not really, Yeah, they're more similar than a donkey and
a pony.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Oh, it's gonna come hobbling in and like everybody's gonna
feel so bad for the poor animal lugged the kids.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Around on a bed teeth teeth, Right, the.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Hell are you dealing with? It's you live in New Hampshire.
There must be farm animal people all over the state,
and they're bringing more chickens.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You already have nine, I know. Are they bringing baby chicks?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I think so. It's because my wife doesn't want to
let the chickens out of their little coop because of
the hawks.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I think she's right to not use your chickens.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Well, the hawks come down.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, they're waiting for the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
To all out AsSalt by a family of hawks.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
All she wants, all my wife wants is a picture
of my daughter with the pink cowboy hat and the
outfit for you know, the Pink Pony.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Club, My little poney, that's all she So they still
have those electronic horses outside prom markets.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Don't you just send her there at the basket and Salem,
send her there with the cowgirl.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Having limping horse party is not for your daughter who's
turning three.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's for your thirty five year old wife.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, it's oh she has a whole outfitish, it's multiple
outfits going on up there.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know, you know what I said, Gide.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, yeah, here it comes. Oh God, Lisa kiss. Okay,
it's the Billy and Lisa Show.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
We are back. And typically on a Thursday, we would
have Attorney Catherine Loft us in to recap the Reed
trial and everything that was going on. But because tomorrow,
by the way, is June teenth holiday a holiday, we
won't be here and neither will the Karen Reid trial.
They've got the day off, right, That's right, Okay, So Catherine,
a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Of movement from the jury this week.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Does it mean anything, these questions they're sending to the judge.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
I mean it gives us a little bit of an
indication about what's going on. We started the deliberations on
Friday afternoon, after the jury got it all day on Monday,
we didn't hear or anything at all, and then yesterday
we sort of had this flurry of questions three originally
and then the fourth. You know, the difficult thing is
you absolutely, can you know, interpret, try to interpret at
least what they're saying. But at the same time, do
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we really know what's going on? You know, my initial
indication yesterday was based on the questions, was that they
were pretty close to return in averdict. And then we
had the entire day where they kept deliberating. They went
home yesterday, So then that makes me think maybe my
gut was not right.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
So yesterday the judge did not answer one of the questions,
which was, if we find her not guilty on two
of the charges and we cannot come to a consensus
on a third charge, does that declare a mistrial?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Can you answer that question for us? What if that happened? Yes?
Speaker 9 (25:44):
Yes, and the reason why And I know this is
very frustrated, and I really genuinely understand why the law
can be so frustrated. But it's the way that the
question was phrased that she couldn't. It was asked as
a hypothetical. If they had said, we have we've reached
a decision nanimously on two counts and not on one.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You know, how do we report it? What do we do?
But they didn't, So what can.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Happen is basically it sounds like they have reached a
not guilty verdict on two of them and then they
hung on the other. It doesn't mean if they're hung
on count number two, it doesn't mean the whole entire
trial is hung. They can return a verdict four to
two and be hung on a third.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
So a mistrial would be declared on a third count
and could potentially she could potentially come back into court again, yes,
on that one charge.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
Yeah, so if we use the hypothetical, we don't know
which counts. But let's let's say they're in the same
place as trial jury number one and trial number one was,
and they had a decision on count number one, the
second degree murder count number three, they're leaving the scene.
They could return those verdicts and then the judge could
would likely send them back out give them the two
WEE Rodriguez instruction which they had in trial number one,
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which basically tells the jury you are in the best
position to make a disc vision. You have all the facts,
you know, you've heard all the evidence, like try a
little bit hotter, basically, and if then if they couldn't
reach a verdict, take that And so they basically have
a split verdict. We'd have a not guilty on two
and a mistrial on one, and then the Commonwealth theoretically
hopefully not but could retry her on whatever it's time.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
On a question, is it a bad look for a
judge to have two mistrials.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
No, I think I think it's actually more of an
indication that the facts support that people are split about it.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
I don't know that it's a reflection on the judge
per se or. I think it's more so about what
the actual case is and whether people you know, are
convinced or not.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
So this could go to a third trial.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
It could if there's one count that they just can't
find a consensus.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It could.
Speaker 9 (27:47):
And and it's you know, it's one of those things
because theoretically the commwalth. I mean, in some cases they
do this, They try and try until they get a guilty.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You know.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
It's my position that that's if you get two miss trials,
that's an indication that people are undecided. People are split, right,
Some people think, you know, the commwall's correct, some people
think the defense is correct, and you know the better
From my you know, perspective, I think the better thing
to do if they get a mistrial on the manslaughter
is you know, the DA should come out and say, listen,
we believe that Karen Reid is guilty and we you know,
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attempted to get justice for John o'kee's family. The jury
system has, you know, has functions the way it does,
and you know this is it. We're not going to
pursue it any further and you know, expend any resources.
But so that's I would hope that's what they do,
but all they might not.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I don't know if they're listening to me.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
There's a third trial, I'm moving.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I think, I think, honestly, I think a lot of
us will check out if there's a third trial.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I mean, it's it's but now.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Earlier this week, Reid's lawyers asked if the jury forms
could be changed, and yet again the judge shut them
right down. I don't think she's ruled in their favor
on a single thing in two years. But what was
that all about?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So you know, again, I know it's this.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
The law is very rule based, it's very standard based.
So in court right whether it's superior court, district quote,
we have forms that are promulgated by rules committees there's
a lot lawyers and judges who come together to decide, Okay,
this is how we're going to write the jury instructions.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
This is how we're going to write the jury form.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
So the standard form for a lesser included is as
the jury form went trial number one and trial number two.
I will say that after the questions yesterday, she sent
back an amended form with sort of the outline as
defense asked, and it essentially says, if you don't find
you know, go to this joge first. If you don't
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find guilty, go to the next one. If you don't
find guilty, go to the next one and go down, down, down.
But judges are reticent to deviate from the standard because
if they remain within the standard, they're less likely to
be flipped on appeal. So theoretically, if Karen Reid was
convicted after she changed the jury verdict, that could be
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a basis for a po you know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So, so it's it's very rule based.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Were you surprised that the jury and one of the
questions asked they were asking about all of the interviews
that she's been doing on TV and.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Whether they thought that was evidence. I knew, well no,
but I know that it was even it was difficult.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
I was very surprised that, you know, they sat there
for you know, six seven weeks and saw so many
clips and then even had a question about whether they
could consider that you know, why, why would that not
be evident? I mean that was surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So I don't know.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
That could be somebody in the jury who's saying, well,
you know, our sort of common understanding of defendants talking
is that you know, it's supposed to be, you know, with.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
All right, so we got to move on.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Now, it's topic time for the Villy and Lisa.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
In the morning, and the topic is a Karen.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Typically we do this on a Thursday, but we're off tomorrow,
as are most people for June teenth, it's a national holiday.
And uh so we've got Catherine Loftus in on a
Wednesday morning. I noticed this week that the pink people
are back in droves big time.
Speaker 14 (31:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
Well, usually when you're waiting for the verdict, you know,
people want to be part of sort of you know,
the festivities, if you want to call it that. Outside
they're waiting, everyone's anticipating.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
So so did they now they're not?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So did they just don't have work like they're there
all day every like.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I don't understand how someone can do that.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Well, I know that there's people who, you know, some
people go every day. I don't know what their employment
situation is. But then there's others who kind of pop
in and pop out depending on, you know, what their schedule.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And a lot of people work from home.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, but they're not working from home, they're outside the
corner house.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
We had Billy he was off last week. He was
on Nantucket. We had him call in live to talk
about being on Nantucket. List to what happened. But here's
the funny well not twenty but the interesting part.
Speaker 17 (32:02):
How are you yeah?
Speaker 16 (32:03):
Free?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Karen read.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That was on the docks at like the morning, and
then Tucket saying, oh hi, Billy free Karen Raida.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
What they're everywhere there, everywhere.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
The pink people.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, so all right, you want to talk back chest
in the.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Could you remind us what the three charges are?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yes, the three charges.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
She's facing a second degree murder, manslaughter while operating under
the influence, and then leaving the scene of serious bodily
injury or death. So they can they can find a
verdict on each one. They can, as we were talking
about in the earlier segment, they can, you know, split
the verdict.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Some can be hump, some can be returned. Are there
sub charges with one of these? Yes, there are.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
So the manslaughter while OUI there's this is what we
call lesser included. There's an involuntary manslaughter, there's an OUI homicide,
and then there's a straight OUI just operating under the influence.
So if they get to count number two, if they
don't find that the necessary elements have been met for
the manslaughter while O U A is charged, they can
go to the lesser included. So they basically go like
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down one down, one down one.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Oh you why is an automatic right?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I mean I mean dizzy.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
I mean I mean from my perspective, legally, I think
clearly the elements have been met, but you never know what.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
But also that came back to one of the questions
they asked. That's a timestamp, that's right, they asked.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
One of the first questions was did this happen at
Are we talking about five am or twelve forty five am?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So we don't know what the jerry, what the jerry
is thinking.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
God, if she's not convicted on the OUI. What does
it take to be convicted?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I mean Julie's calling from Newburyport. Julie, go ahead. You
have a question for Catherine Loftus, Yes, Hi, What.
Speaker 15 (33:47):
Is on the screen that they the proud is told
not to react or cheer once they hear the verdict?
Speaker 16 (33:57):
Why is that?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Like?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
I think it'll be excited, but they, yes, stay, they're created.
Speaker 9 (34:03):
I'm assuming you mean in the buffer zone outside or
inside of the court. I mean generally they inside the Courtum,
they want to keep like the decorum. They want everything
to be serious. You remember this is you know, it's
important to remember that there's a lot of people who
support Karen Read but we also have John O'Keeffe who
passed away.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, you know, I mean they want everybody to respect
the process, all right, justin Josh.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah, let's go back to the OUI.
Speaker 15 (34:27):
Charges there, Hi, guys, My question for Captain Loftus is
why did they add the OUI to the list of
convictions or the list of things that she's being tried on.
It wasn't in there last time. It just seems so odd.
Let me throw that in there, so at least I'm
guaranteed to get something to penalize there.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It actually was.
Speaker 9 (34:51):
At the request of the defense. And what that is
is that allows the jey from their perspective, that allows
the jury to potentially convict her on something if they
don't think all of the necessary elements have been met
for the second degree murder.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Or the manslaughter.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
You put in the OUI and say, sometimes juries feel
like we think there's some culpability for something somewhere. We
don't want to let somebody off the hook completely. This way,
from the defense perspective, it allows really the most minimal
charge possible. And remember OUI is a lesser included because
it has the same necessary elements as the manslaughter.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Will OUI and she'd essentially get approbation.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Are you saying that OUI was not a charge in
the original trial.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's not a standalone charge.
Speaker 9 (35:34):
So the three she was indicted onto the murder, manslaughter,
leaving the scene, and OUI is only as a.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Lesser included to the second offense.
Speaker 13 (35:42):
Right question for Catherine is if Karen gets convicted of
some one of the lesser charges count too, is it
all guaranteed jail time. I know that the OUI.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Is not for the rest of them.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
Is it all guarantee jail.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Time she's looking at at some time if she's convicted
of anything other than the OUI, she's definitely looking at
jail time for if that's why they wanted the straight OUI,
because the standard disposition in Massachusetts is essentially a one
year approbation with classes. So but anything other than that, yeah,
she'd be looking at a sentence.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
All right, let's go to Steve and have her old
Good morning Steve. Question for Catherine loftis yes.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Catherine.
Speaker 15 (36:29):
Quick question is the most important question.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
The attorney's free to rip the judge a new one
at the end of the trial.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They're free to do whatever they want, like this question.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Yeah, I mean, listen, they lawya is a free you know,
to speak about whatever they want and they get to
decide whether you know that's appropriate or not, you know,
I mean, listen, there's the judicial system is not perfect,
and there's always disagreements and you know, personality conflicts between
judges and lawyers. But generally, even when criticizing them, they
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we try to stay sort of within the bounds of
you know, respectful criticism.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Right, But they can say anything they want.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
They could, they could.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
That's contempt.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Let's go to Kristin and Bridgewater.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Kristin, go ahead, something on Karen Reid, go.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yes, good morning.
Speaker 17 (37:25):
I have a question of why is she Why is
Karen Reid able to speak with the press after Charlie today.
I know that her team has a gag order, but
why are they recommending or like having her speak?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Why is that? Okay?
Speaker 9 (37:42):
So Karen Reid is not subject to the gag order,
it's just the attorneys. So that's why you know, in
trial number one, we saw her attorneys come out at
the end of every day and speak to the press.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Right.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
Here's she's basically taken on the role of she's sort
of like the spokesperson, right.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
But this week she's not speaking when they ask, oh.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
She's not you know, to be honest, I don't actually
watch the after the other day.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
We're not talking signs and now she's giving heart signs
to the people across the.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Street with the Kui coyote.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
It's very Karen, good morning.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
Can you ask attorney loftus?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
But she thought of the closing arguments and who she
thought had a stronger one. I personally think Alan Jackson
knocked it out of the park. I think they were
both great.
Speaker 9 (38:30):
I mean, I think they were both great from from
an attorney's perspective, you know, I know people feel very strongly.
They they love Hank Brennan, they hate him, they leave
the love Alan Jackson, or they hate him. These are
very highly skilled, trained attorneys, and from my perspective, they're
both super persuasive. I mean, Alan Jackson and and Hank Brennan.
They have very different styles, so the way they tell
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stories doesn't present the same way.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
But I think they were both great. Yeah, I thought
so too, very convincing on both sides.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Morning It's Lucy.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I have a question for Karen Loftus. If she is
found guilty.
Speaker 15 (39:06):
On any of the charges, when will she be sentenced
and who does the sentence?
Speaker 8 (39:11):
Does it come from the judge?
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Does it come from the jury?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
How does that work? That's a good question. It comes
from the judge, the judge.
Speaker 9 (39:17):
With sentence, usually you're taken into custody, depending on the
nature of the charge. If you're convicted convicted, often you're
taken right into custody. She probably wouldn't be should probably
be given a sentence and date in a week or two,
you know, able time to get sort of her affairs
in order, as we say, and then the parties make
argument to the judge about what sentence should be imposed,
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and then the judge essentially gets to decide, so it
would be judge, canoni.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Do they take her a passport?
Speaker 9 (39:43):
I think they already have a passport? Oh yeahs no license,
no passport.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
They have her lexus to right, Yeah, they got everything.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
You got another one? Just watch it, all right? Thank you, Catherine.
We don't know when you'll be back.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
But whatever, there's a verdicts call me. I'll be here.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And where can they find you once you can.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Find me it?
Speaker 9 (40:10):
Nope, my objection everywhere. TikTok, sup stack uh. You know
I'm talking about the case every day.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
All right.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Thanks for coming in on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Thanks having me
Now this morning show in Boston, Billy and Lisa in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's just a great start to my day.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
On kids one. Await, Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, old boy is right, Oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Hey, everybody, welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It's a Wednesday and it's the Billy and Lisa Morning Show.
It's gonna be a big show. I'm excited. First of all,
the Mega Match Game is happening at eight ten this morning. Okay,
you gotta be ready.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm still blown away by the board.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Me too. It's so big.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thank you, it's.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Colorful, it's big, and it's impressive.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It really is.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
It's got a lot of prizes up there for all
of you for the taking.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yes, if your caller twenty five at eight ten.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah. So we've got some high heat coming in rightday.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Not until like Monday.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
We'll hit Mike close to one hundred a lot of
humidity Monday Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No what, oh boy. I love the heat. I can't wait.
Legitimately love it.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I'll go out for a running up. I know you
think I'm crazy, but I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, I love the heat when I run too, But
I don't know a hundred degrees is oppressive.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But is it humid or dry humid?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Oh god, that is oppressive, hot and human.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Okay, you get a good.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Sweat in a lot of sweat, good cleansing, good organ
clean sweat.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But it's been so cold for June lately. I'll take
you and I.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Got to tell you this happens every time there's a
heat wave. Every time it really gets hot, the AC
shuts down in your house. Try to get the air
conditioning guy.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Don't because we're on the second floor.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's hot, Yeah, it's you got to get a fan out.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, but when it's so humid, the fan does not.
It just moves the hot.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Air, blowing the hot heat into your face.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You know, my AC went out last year last summer,
and I left the and came and slept on the
floor in my studio.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I would have done the same thing.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm on the fourth floor. So it's even though
it's sixty today, it's still hot in my house. Out
of the acon because it was seventy seven in my house.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, if it exceeds one hundred degrees you could literally
burst into flames.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Well, it was one hundred and eleven in Nevada. I
think this week.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, but they have dry heat, so it probably not.
It doesn't even feel that bad.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
See, I don't think the dry heat was I don't. Yeah,
I know it's all the same.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's very hot, No, but it feels way nicer when
it's dry.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
It's stifling hot when it's humid.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't breathe.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm just going to spend the entire week wearing
a string bikini.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
MEO.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh, we have fun, don't we. Lisa Dundavan.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I was thinking that I was going to sleep last night.
Lisa Dundovan in a few hours is going to Iceland.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I have a stomach ache. I see a suitcase is
packed in the office.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, I'm going right to the airport. I have a
stomach ache over this hike. I have to tell you,
Like I'm athletic, Like I can get through the hike.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's just it's just the climate changes through the hike.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, and the isolation, Like the isolation could get lost if.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Something happened, because you just follow these metal poles.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
There's no guide. She convinced her son to try to
kill her. I really do.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
There are certain parts of the hike that remind me
of Mount Everest where you're climbing over these i mean
little crevices and you could fall off either side and
there's no guide.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, there's no guide. It's a pole. It's a metal pole,
and you follow the poles.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, they drive up to a sign. That's the only
communication they have with any Icelanders. It's a sign telling
you here's the trail.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Ironically, you know what the poles are called, Karen's.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's funny a hike.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, it's fifteen miles.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And it's like every different terrain. I was showing Billy
the pictures. You've got massive water falls that's beautiful, which
is beautiful, and then you go into this rocky terrain,
and then you go into something that looks like Mars,
and then you go on the glacier and you're walking
through snow and I'm like, this just doesn't seem fun.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
By the way, I got an answer from Michelle's cousin Donal,
who does the expeditions all over the world. He got
back to me yesterday again because I said, well, Lisa
is arriving with the boys wednesday, and he texted back.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
He said, oh my god, Emma and I are leaving wednesday.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Afternoon on another journey, so they're just gonna miss He's
got a.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Guy that takes us through Africa. No guy, no guy,
just polls.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You want pole position always. It's just I'm literally I
have like.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
You'll be fine. The boys will take care of you.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
They're not. They know they're not. They're going to come
running for mommy.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Anything happened, No, Max and Riley, good kids, good evening.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
I just wanted to tell this quick story. I was
at a market Milton tonight, a place I go to
a lot. I see Lisa there often. I don't fan
girl her because she looks busy when I see her.
But tonight I was leaving. My arms were full. Two
young men were coming in, and the youngest of the
two doubled back and grabbed the door to make sure
that I got out easily, very rare, and I realized
(05:19):
they were Lisa's sons and it was her youngest son
that grabbed the door.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Great job, Lisa, Well that's nice. Thanks Riley for being
he'll do that for that lady. But a good citizen.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, I sent him to get power bars for the walk. No,
because they've got these hots that you stop it and
you make ramen noodles on a hot plate.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
To me, this could be my worst.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's literally I am the one person that would.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Never I'm actually nervous for you. Now. I thought you
I thought you were going to have a guide. I
thought that it was a very you know, planned out thing.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, last time they showed up at the trail, it
was closed and they drove three hours to get there.
They had to turn around and go back.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
That was the ice Cave, the super cheap ice Cave tour.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh yes, yes, that was last year.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, and then I don't even want to say what happened,
like a month later, someone literally died in the ice cave.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, it's just and.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, I think you should need a satellite phone.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, we have the battery pack.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, just in case you might need a sat phone.
You're in total isolation out there. How cool would that
be though? If the choppers had to come in and
find them, and then the chopper arrives. Riley's in his
ramen noodles.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Can you leave talkbacks while you're there? You have service
on your phone?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Ironically, the service in Iceland is very good. Okay, yeah,
it's better than in parts of.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Milton Wow, this is exciting.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
We're going to miss you.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, I'll be back on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, let's hope you get back to us.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
From the Planet Fitness, Kiss, Rue Away Studios.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We're back with the Villa and Lisa in the morning.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Kiss, We're back. Justin.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Squeeze into talk back please can we get one?
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You have something to say, you can press that little
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you know, you can chime in on anything that we're
talking about, or just send in random talkbacks. We'll take
those two.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
So I have a beta fish and I read that
the only other fish that will survive with them is catfish.
So I got three little catfish and they've all been
living peacefully.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But guess what.
Speaker 10 (07:35):
One is pregnant. So now she's laying eggs all over
the fish tank and we're gonna have a ton of
baby catfish. So I guess now I'm a fish lady.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hanky panky and the fish tank.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I guess. So runs me a joke.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Actually, you know the difference between a lawyer and a catfish.
One is a scum sucking bottom dweller, the other is
a fish.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Now the entertainment updates with.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The Billy Hobstuf.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Hey, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
These have to be the cutest fish I think I've
ever seen. Hey, the Florida Panthers are the Stanley Cup
champions this morning.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Second year in a row. They took out the Oilers
last night. Celebrate pet.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But Tarna Patters their second Stanley come.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah. Brad marshan big factor in this series, talked last
night about the last minute trade that sent him from
the Bruins to the.
Speaker 12 (08:41):
Probably most proud of my family, but they took them
a lot believing and and just you know, sacrifice of
being away, you know, and there's a lot that goes
on at home and you have when you have a
wife and kids and you got a whole life there
you move away from.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, he's got a Stanley Cup now. Right before the game,
Marshawn got a message from his wife and kids. It's
meat really, Hey daddiot, Hey Papa, it's long boy.
Speaker 13 (09:06):
Congratulations getting onto the Stanley Cup finals.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
It's a lot of work and effort that you have to.
Speaker 14 (09:13):
Put in for It's been so awesome to watch you
over my whole childhood and growing up and seeing the
man you become and all that you've done.
Speaker 15 (09:24):
No matter what happens in the game, we're still proud
of you.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's still lot.
Speaker 13 (09:27):
Us and we got you.
Speaker 14 (09:29):
I love you so much.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
The best die in the hall.
Speaker 14 (09:33):
Why, um, just know we're all very proud of you
over here, and no matter how this year comes to
an end and how this finals end up, I just
know we all love you and for you, and you
always got a family here with open arms when you
come home.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Love you, Papa, good thing.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Huh hell wow, hello Papa.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, that was a tough listen this morning. Yeah, oh
my god, that was nice.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay. NBA Finals Thunder in the Pacers Game six tomorrow night.
Thunder lead the series three games too. We could have
an NBA champion tomorrow, right yep. Red Sox game six
game winning streak came to an end in Seattle. Mariners
shut out the Socks eight zip. Raphael Devers, in his
first game as a Giant, went two for five with
(10:26):
an RBI double. And remember we had our sports guy
Dan Shaughnessy on the show yesterday saying.
Speaker 16 (10:33):
This first base against the Red Sox Friday night in
San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
You're going to see him out there, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
And Devers, through a translator yesterday said this, like I said.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Before, playing here to play where ever they want me
to do, and.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, he won't do that here.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We refuse to play first base here in Boston.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, And don't forget the Socks and the Giants play
this weekend in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Selena Gomez did a remix of her twenty nineteen song
I Can't Get Enough for the release of her new Oreos.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, I can't, I can't crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's a nice little gift for her fans.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Sure can't get enough.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And Oreo lovers.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
If you if you get the Oreos, there's a QR code.
You can scan it with your phone and the song plays.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
So Justin Bieber and Scooter Brown will finally settle their feud.
They reached some sort of settlement on a ton of
money that Bieber now supposedly owed Scooter. Where's he getting
the money?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
I thought, well, it could be from Haley, his wife,
because she just scored that big deal with Elf Cosmetics
for her Road beauty brand.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Which just all makes sense, right TMZ drops the documentary,
unveils that all the money is owed, and then Haley
sells her business a million dollars and now it's going
to be paid. What the hell happened to Justin Bieber?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well, I don't know what he owes her, but I
mean she got a billion, so it's close to a billion. Yeah, whoa.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, well he blew his supposedly, and now he's spending hers.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, well, she's helping him out.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I still think he's one of the most talented people
walks the planet, though he really is.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, it's too bad.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I hope he finds his way. As they say, the
prosecution expected to arrest by this coming Friday.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
In the Diddy trial, do you think the defense will
put on its own case?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, they kind of have to. Why wouldn't they.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
I didn't even know defense could do that until the
Canery trial. I just thought it was one thing and
then that was it.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Now the jury was shown videos of the freak offs, Yeah,
several videos. Yeah, and some of them were laughing.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, a couple of they were laughing.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's message.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know what they what they saw, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Regardless whatever they saw, why are you laughing? Well, sometimes
people laugh because it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
A condition, nervous laughter.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, what is it IBS? I think it's called.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I thought that's when you care to the bathroom. That's
the other. Yeah, that's the other idea.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Maybe they're suffering from that.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I don't know. We have nothing on that yet.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
We'll try to get an update on the IBS among
the jury members.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So we go from a creepy story to a cool story.
Our Ina Grande's grandmother died this week. That's sad. She
was ninety nine. But her grandmother actually appeared on a
couple of Ariana songs, including this one.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We never go to bed with them, kiss good night.
Speaker 17 (13:47):
It's the worst thing to do.
Speaker 16 (13:50):
Never do that, and if you can't, then if you
don't feel comfortable doing it, you're in the wrong place.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
To get out.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh my god, her nana nine years old?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
What a legend. Yeah, Okay, it's not IBS, Sorry, Bills,
it's pbabia.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Pseudo bulber affect PBA causes frequent episodes of uncontrollable crying
or laughing in people with brains or neurologic conditions like.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Stroke, dementia, or MS.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
It's a neurologic condition sure, not psychological, and it's treatable.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah that's what Billy has.
Speaker 16 (14:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
See, you never get this kind of information anywhere else right.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I don't think there's any other radio show in the
world right now talking about that that condition, PABA, PBS, PBI.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It would suck if you have PBA and IBS.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, that wouldn't be good.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, that's not a good combo.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Did you say PBS.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And there's a lot going on. The IBS and the PBA.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
PBS would be the public broadcast.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Is that's still on?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, I think the White House trying to end more
information that you only get here on the billion Lisa
Morning Show.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
But I okay, okay, Big Papa, and I love this
next story.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Mariah Carey does not acknowledge her birthday. She does not
acknowledge time. Check this, Riya.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Is it true you don't acknowledge the possitive time? That
is true? What you mean by that? I just don't
believe in it. What do you mean time zones? No, no,
just time, just time. Times and no clocks. No, no,
just not into that. Yeah, I don't let it go.
Do you celebrate the birthday?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I don't have a birthday.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I love her. She does look good, she's gorgeous.
Speaker 14 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Does she just not celebrate her own birthday? Like because
her kids have birthdays?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's a good.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Question about age charging for her time and age like
she's never been on time for anything?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
True.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Oh my gosh. She was famous for.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
We were at the Way Billy and I and years
ago and she was four hours late.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
For the Christmas special.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, without explanation.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
She doesn't acknowledge time.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
So obviously very clear, now we understand it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
The first trailer for the new I Know What You
Did last summer movie is that we've got it.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I'm not going to help us.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And we'll find someone who will.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Isn't something I like talking about?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You survived? This one's we need your help.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I like those movies.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, they're pretty cool. Hey. The deadline to sell TikTok
is tomorrow, but speculation is the President will sign an
extension at some point today, and for the first time ever,
streaming viewership surpassed cable and broadcast combined. Wow, Well that
(16:56):
good or bad news for USS.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Well, you can stream us.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's right, we do nothing but streaming on the radio app.
Speaker 15 (17:03):
You're on it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
We're streaming everywhere.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Baby, We're streaming right now round the world. I'm just saying, oh,
a couple of other things I want to get in
the Karen Reid Trilly is really heating up. The jury
will enter another day of deliberation today. A lot of
questions are being sent to the judge, which makes it
even more interesting. Packed crowd outside the courthouse. They're all
back now and Catherine loftus our in house lawyer, is
(17:26):
going to join us in studio.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
What time seven?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And then right after eight o'clock, my son Chris Costa
is coming in. The Big Fanatics Festival is this weekend
in New York and my son Chris is going to
be hosting a panel with Tom Brady and actress Emma Roberts.
What is going on to my son?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
It's so random, Yes, especially because it's.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
The most random like job, like you know, card collecting, Yes,
Like is it a random hobby that he made into
a career.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Everybody listening did it as a kid, but now it's
something else. It exploded during the pandemic.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I hear he's bringing new card Vault by Tom Brady merch.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Well, I'll tell you one thing. If he's not bringing
the new merch, you should turn around right now, go back.
They have got an entire warehouse right over in Charleston.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Billy lives for merch, which is so funny to me.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well, it's embarrassing. He's my son. I don't have the
updated merch that says card Vault by Tom Brady, and
it's very cool merch.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You wear Panera hats you wear anybody that was an accident.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I thought it was a Lenox hotel.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You do it once a week. You had the Panera
hat on.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
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Speaker 7 (18:46):
Welcome Emma from the Planet's Fitness Kiss one Away Studios.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
We're back with a Villy and Lisa in the morning
on Kiss on eight.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
We're back and by the way, we are one an
hour away from playing the Mega match game, so stand
by for that. You want to get some talkbacks in justin.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
While the v Bros did not have a winner yesterday,
remember the first day they got a winner for Gimi
ball tickets. Somebody just randomly guessed.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Both numbers, which could happen.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It can happen. It's kind of rare.
Speaker 18 (19:19):
Captain Mike's investigation into those two scam out as from
framing him is still ongoing. But wouldn't it be great
if they did have another winner and the prize was
a night out with them.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
That's one of the prizes. Amazing, Yeah, I love him,
He's really good.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He's on it.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, Well, one of the prizes is the night with
the v Bros. Or another prize is a contown experience
looking to meet all of us would.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Be on the contown and a billion Lisa hoodie.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
And the billion Lisa hoodie too is added as well.
Yep ten The Mega Match game happens in the meantime though,
it's checking with the talkbackers.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I am Sarah. I was just wondering how this talkback
thing works, So send him a talkback and you played
on the radio.
Speaker 17 (20:01):
How do I know when it's going to be played?
Speaker 14 (20:04):
Like, what if I'm in between my car.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
And work and I just happen to miss it.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Just wondering, long time listener.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Thank you, Thank you, Sarah. That's a great question. I
have a couple of answers for you. First of all,
you never know when I'm going to play it back.
But there is a feature for the talkbacks where I
can I can let the person know it will be
played back within fifteen minutes or I know. Yeah, I
don't always do it because I'm very busy, so I
do my best.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I was going to tell them, you just have to
keep listening all day.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
And that's my other train of thought, Lisa, is you
have to listen because you never know, and you know,
it might be a topical talkback that I might play
rather quickly, or it could be in the leftovers, which
we do at around nine to twenty every morning.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know what you just did. You gave everybody some
talkback technology.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
It's talkback tips. Yeah. And by the way, if you
miss it and you don't hear it, you can always
listen on the podcast later on in the day and you.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Can share it with your friends. And relatives that you were.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
On the radio and you check in. I mean this
guy checks in every single day.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's the mayor of the South Bend.
Speaker 16 (21:06):
I know you guys are going on a well deserved
four day weekend, but I want to be mind everybody.
Don't forget the Pizza Bowl which is going on in
City Hall Saturday and Sunday, and you get to vote
on the best pizza.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And then the.
Speaker 16 (21:20):
Words of Susan Lucci when she finally won her Emmy.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
The streak is over. No rain this Saturday.
Speaker 16 (21:27):
Have a great weekend, everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Whoa did he really have a Susan reference?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Well yeah, one hundred years old. Yeah, it's okay, but yeah,
the Pizza Festival is this weekend. Winning you're going I'm
going to go on Saturday. She's skipping my daughter's birthday
party for the pizza Festival.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Ohah yeah, okay, yeah, I mean go to Salm New Hampshire,
hang out two year olds, or go to City Hall
posity pizza.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
With you it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Did you call for a press pass or something from
the can do that?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Probably call City Hall pluza.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, I'm gonna press that.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It'll be great. It'll be it'll be a great time.
And yeah, my my daughter's birthday party is Saturday. And
like the mayor said, no rain, Yeah, no rain. Imagine
all these weekends in a row with rain and the
first one is the birthday.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Now are you still getting the limp pony?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Oh? This isn't no, this is an ongoing saga at all.
I can't get too much into it. But she was
on the phone with the farmer all day yesterday. This
guy has a character. Okay, this guy. So now she
booked the pony for an hour, okay, and they're gonna
come for two hours with the full petting zoo, but
the hour with the pony. Now the guy saying, it's
we only get a half hour because this is the
(22:36):
backup pony. The original pony got injured.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Oh so the backup pony's probably tired and used to Probably.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I'm convinced donkey giving you they're gonna give a difference.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
What's the difference?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
A big difference between donkey and Well, first of all,
the pony looks like a little horse.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
The donkey looks like a donkey.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Isn't that okay?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Just the kid and the kids know different.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Maybe it's a mule, but a donkey and the same thing.
Not really, Yeah, they're more similar than a donkey and
a pony.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Oh, it's gonna come hobbling in and like everybody's gonna
feel so bad for the poor animal lugged the kids.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Around on a bed teeth teeth, Right, the.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Hell are you dealing with? It's you live in New Hampshire.
There must be farm animal people all over the state,
and they're bringing more chickens.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You already have nine, I know. Are they bringing baby chicks?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I think so. It's because my wife doesn't want to
let the chickens out of their little coop because of
the hawks.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I think she's right to not use your chickens.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Well, the hawks come down.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, they're waiting for the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
To all out AsSalt by a family of hawks.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
All she wants, all my wife wants is a picture
of my daughter with the pink cowboy hat and the
outfit for you know, the Pink Pony.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Club, My little poney, that's all she So they still
have those electronic horses outside prom markets.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Don't you just send her there at the basket and Salem,
send her there with the cowgirl.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Having limping horse party is not for your daughter who's
turning three.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's for your thirty five year old wife.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, it's oh she has a whole outfitish, it's multiple
outfits going on up there.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know, you know what I said, Gide.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, yeah, here it comes. Oh God, Lisa kiss. Okay,
it's the Billy and Lisa Show.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
We are back. And typically on a Thursday, we would
have Attorney Catherine Loft us in to recap the Reed
trial and everything that was going on. But because tomorrow,
by the way, is June teenth holiday a holiday, we
won't be here and neither will the Karen Reid trial.
They've got the day off, right, That's right, Okay, So Catherine,
a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Of movement from the jury this week.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Does it mean anything, these questions they're sending to the judge.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
I mean it gives us a little bit of an
indication about what's going on. We started the deliberations on
Friday afternoon, after the jury got it all day on Monday,
we didn't hear or anything at all, and then yesterday
we sort of had this flurry of questions three originally
and then the fourth. You know, the difficult thing is
you absolutely, can you know, interpret, try to interpret at
least what they're saying. But at the same time, do
(25:14):
we really know what's going on? You know, my initial
indication yesterday was based on the questions, was that they
were pretty close to return in averdict. And then we
had the entire day where they kept deliberating. They went
home yesterday, So then that makes me think maybe my
gut was not right.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
So yesterday the judge did not answer one of the questions,
which was, if we find her not guilty on two
of the charges and we cannot come to a consensus
on a third charge, does that declare a mistrial?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Can you answer that question for us? What if that happened? Yes?
Speaker 9 (25:44):
Yes, and the reason why And I know this is
very frustrated, and I really genuinely understand why the law
can be so frustrated. But it's the way that the
question was phrased that she couldn't. It was asked as
a hypothetical. If they had said, we have we've reached
a decision nanimously on two counts and not on one.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You know, how do we report it? What do we do?
But they didn't, So what can.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Happen is basically it sounds like they have reached a
not guilty verdict on two of them and then they
hung on the other. It doesn't mean if they're hung
on count number two, it doesn't mean the whole entire
trial is hung. They can return a verdict four to
two and be hung on a third.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
So a mistrial would be declared on a third count
and could potentially she could potentially come back into court again, yes,
on that one charge.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
Yeah, so if we use the hypothetical, we don't know
which counts. But let's let's say they're in the same
place as trial jury number one and trial number one was,
and they had a decision on count number one, the
second degree murder count number three, they're leaving the scene.
They could return those verdicts and then the judge could
would likely send them back out give them the two
WEE Rodriguez instruction which they had in trial number one,
(26:55):
which basically tells the jury you are in the best
position to make a disc vision. You have all the facts,
you know, you've heard all the evidence, like try a
little bit hotter, basically, and if then if they couldn't
reach a verdict, take that And so they basically have
a split verdict. We'd have a not guilty on two
and a mistrial on one, and then the Commonwealth theoretically
hopefully not but could retry her on whatever it's time.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
On a question, is it a bad look for a
judge to have two mistrials.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
No, I think I think it's actually more of an
indication that the facts support that people are split about it.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
I don't know that it's a reflection on the judge
per se or. I think it's more so about what
the actual case is and whether people you know, are
convinced or not.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
So this could go to a third trial.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
It could if there's one count that they just can't
find a consensus.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It could.
Speaker 9 (27:47):
And and it's you know, it's one of those things
because theoretically the commwalth. I mean, in some cases they
do this, They try and try until they get a guilty.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You know.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
It's my position that that's if you get two miss trials,
that's an indication that people are undecided. People are split, right,
Some people think, you know, the commwall's correct, some people
think the defense is correct, and you know the better
From my you know, perspective, I think the better thing
to do if they get a mistrial on the manslaughter
is you know, the DA should come out and say, listen,
we believe that Karen Reid is guilty and we you know,
(28:19):
attempted to get justice for John o'kee's family. The jury
system has, you know, has functions the way it does,
and you know this is it. We're not going to
pursue it any further and you know, expend any resources.
But so that's I would hope that's what they do,
but all they might not.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I don't know if they're listening to me.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
There's a third trial, I'm moving.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I think, I think, honestly, I think a lot of
us will check out if there's a third trial.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I mean, it's it's but now.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Earlier this week, Reid's lawyers asked if the jury forms
could be changed, and yet again the judge shut them
right down. I don't think she's ruled in their favor
on a single thing in two years. But what was
that all about?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So you know, again, I know it's this.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
The law is very rule based, it's very standard based.
So in court right whether it's superior court, district quote,
we have forms that are promulgated by rules committees there's
a lot lawyers and judges who come together to decide, Okay,
this is how we're going to write the jury instructions.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
This is how we're going to write the jury form.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
So the standard form for a lesser included is as
the jury form went trial number one and trial number two.
I will say that after the questions yesterday, she sent
back an amended form with sort of the outline as
defense asked, and it essentially says, if you don't find
you know, go to this joge first. If you don't
(29:44):
find guilty, go to the next one. If you don't
find guilty, go to the next one and go down, down, down.
But judges are reticent to deviate from the standard because
if they remain within the standard, they're less likely to
be flipped on appeal. So theoretically, if Karen Reid was
convicted after she changed the jury verdict, that could be
(30:05):
a basis for a po you know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So, so it's it's very rule based.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Were you surprised that the jury and one of the
questions asked they were asking about all of the interviews
that she's been doing on TV and.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Whether they thought that was evidence. I knew, well no,
but I know that it was even it was difficult.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
I was very surprised that, you know, they sat there
for you know, six seven weeks and saw so many
clips and then even had a question about whether they
could consider that you know, why, why would that not
be evident? I mean that was surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So I don't know.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
That could be somebody in the jury who's saying, well,
you know, our sort of common understanding of defendants talking
is that you know, it's supposed to be, you know, with.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
All right, so we got to move on.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Now, it's topic time for the Villy and Lisa.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
In the morning, and the topic is a Karen.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Typically we do this on a Thursday, but we're off tomorrow,
as are most people for June teenth, it's a national holiday.
And uh so we've got Catherine Loftus in on a
Wednesday morning. I noticed this week that the pink people
are back in droves big time.
Speaker 14 (31:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
Well, usually when you're waiting for the verdict, you know,
people want to be part of sort of you know,
the festivities, if you want to call it that. Outside
they're waiting, everyone's anticipating.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
So so did they now they're not?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So did they just don't have work like they're there
all day every like.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I don't understand how someone can do that.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Well, I know that there's people who, you know, some
people go every day. I don't know what their employment
situation is. But then there's others who kind of pop
in and pop out depending on, you know, what their schedule.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And a lot of people work from home.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, but they're not working from home, they're outside the
corner house.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
We had Billy he was off last week. He was
on Nantucket. We had him call in live to talk
about being on Nantucket. List to what happened. But here's
the funny well not twenty but the interesting part.
Speaker 17 (32:02):
How are you yeah?
Speaker 16 (32:03):
Free?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Karen read.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That was on the docks at like the morning, and
then Tucket saying, oh hi, Billy free Karen Raida.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
What they're everywhere there, everywhere.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
The pink people.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, so all right, you want to talk back chest
in the.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Could you remind us what the three charges are?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yes, the three charges.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
She's facing a second degree murder, manslaughter while operating under
the influence, and then leaving the scene of serious bodily
injury or death. So they can they can find a
verdict on each one. They can, as we were talking
about in the earlier segment, they can, you know, split
the verdict.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Some can be hump, some can be returned. Are there
sub charges with one of these? Yes, there are.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
So the manslaughter while OUI there's this is what we
call lesser included. There's an involuntary manslaughter, there's an OUI homicide,
and then there's a straight OUI just operating under the influence.
So if they get to count number two, if they
don't find that the necessary elements have been met for
the manslaughter while O U A is charged, they can
go to the lesser included. So they basically go like
(33:05):
down one down, one down one.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Oh you why is an automatic right?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I mean I mean dizzy.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
I mean I mean from my perspective, legally, I think
clearly the elements have been met, but you never know what.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
But also that came back to one of the questions
they asked. That's a timestamp, that's right, they asked.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
One of the first questions was did this happen at
Are we talking about five am or twelve forty five am?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So we don't know what the jerry, what the jerry
is thinking.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
God, if she's not convicted on the OUI. What does
it take to be convicted?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I mean Julie's calling from Newburyport. Julie, go ahead. You
have a question for Catherine Loftus, Yes, Hi, What.
Speaker 15 (33:47):
Is on the screen that they the proud is told
not to react or cheer once they hear the verdict?
Speaker 16 (33:57):
Why is that?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Like?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
I think it'll be excited, but they, yes, stay, they're created.
Speaker 9 (34:03):
I'm assuming you mean in the buffer zone outside or
inside of the court. I mean generally they inside the Courtum,
they want to keep like the decorum. They want everything
to be serious. You remember this is you know, it's
important to remember that there's a lot of people who
support Karen Read but we also have John O'Keeffe who
passed away.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, you know, I mean they want everybody to respect
the process, all right, justin Josh.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah, let's go back to the OUI.
Speaker 15 (34:27):
Charges there, Hi, guys, My question for Captain Loftus is
why did they add the OUI to the list of
convictions or the list of things that she's being tried on.
It wasn't in there last time. It just seems so odd.
Let me throw that in there, so at least I'm
guaranteed to get something to penalize there.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It actually was.
Speaker 9 (34:51):
At the request of the defense. And what that is
is that allows the jey from their perspective, that allows
the jury to potentially convict her on something if they
don't think all of the necessary elements have been met
for the second degree murder.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Or the manslaughter.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
You put in the OUI and say, sometimes juries feel
like we think there's some culpability for something somewhere. We
don't want to let somebody off the hook completely. This way,
from the defense perspective, it allows really the most minimal
charge possible. And remember OUI is a lesser included because
it has the same necessary elements as the manslaughter.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Will OUI and she'd essentially get approbation.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Are you saying that OUI was not a charge in
the original trial.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's not a standalone charge.
Speaker 9 (35:34):
So the three she was indicted onto the murder, manslaughter,
leaving the scene, and OUI is only as a.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Lesser included to the second offense.
Speaker 13 (35:42):
Right question for Catherine is if Karen gets convicted of
some one of the lesser charges count too, is it
all guaranteed jail time. I know that the OUI.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Is not for the rest of them.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
Is it all guarantee jail.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Time she's looking at at some time if she's convicted
of anything other than the OUI, she's definitely looking at
jail time for if that's why they wanted the straight OUI,
because the standard disposition in Massachusetts is essentially a one
year approbation with classes. So but anything other than that, yeah,
she'd be looking at a sentence.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
All right, let's go to Steve and have her old
Good morning Steve. Question for Catherine loftis yes.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Catherine.
Speaker 15 (36:29):
Quick question is the most important question.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
The attorney's free to rip the judge a new one
at the end of the trial.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They're free to do whatever they want, like this question.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Yeah, I mean, listen, they lawya is a free you know,
to speak about whatever they want and they get to
decide whether you know that's appropriate or not, you know,
I mean, listen, there's the judicial system is not perfect,
and there's always disagreements and you know, personality conflicts between
judges and lawyers. But generally, even when criticizing them, they
(37:05):
we try to stay sort of within the bounds of
you know, respectful criticism.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Right, But they can say anything they want.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
They could, they could.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
That's contempt.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Let's go to Kristin and Bridgewater.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Kristin, go ahead, something on Karen Reid, go.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yes, good morning.
Speaker 17 (37:25):
I have a question of why is she Why is
Karen Reid able to speak with the press after Charlie today.
I know that her team has a gag order, but
why are they recommending or like having her speak?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Why is that? Okay?
Speaker 9 (37:42):
So Karen Reid is not subject to the gag order,
it's just the attorneys. So that's why you know, in
trial number one, we saw her attorneys come out at
the end of every day and speak to the press.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Right.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
Here's she's basically taken on the role of she's sort
of like the spokesperson, right.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
But this week she's not speaking when they ask, oh.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
She's not you know, to be honest, I don't actually
watch the after the other day.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
We're not talking signs and now she's giving heart signs
to the people across the.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Street with the Kui coyote.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
It's very Karen, good morning.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
Can you ask attorney loftus?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
But she thought of the closing arguments and who she
thought had a stronger one. I personally think Alan Jackson
knocked it out of the park. I think they were
both great.
Speaker 9 (38:30):
I mean, I think they were both great from from
an attorney's perspective, you know, I know people feel very strongly.
They they love Hank Brennan, they hate him, they leave
the love Alan Jackson, or they hate him. These are
very highly skilled, trained attorneys, and from my perspective, they're
both super persuasive. I mean, Alan Jackson and and Hank Brennan.
They have very different styles, so the way they tell
(38:51):
stories doesn't present the same way.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
But I think they were both great. Yeah, I thought
so too, very convincing on both sides.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Morning It's Lucy.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I have a question for Karen Loftus. If she is
found guilty.
Speaker 15 (39:06):
On any of the charges, when will she be sentenced
and who does the sentence?
Speaker 8 (39:11):
Does it come from the judge?
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Does it come from the jury?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
How does that work? That's a good question. It comes
from the judge, the judge.
Speaker 9 (39:17):
With sentence, usually you're taken into custody, depending on the
nature of the charge. If you're convicted convicted, often you're
taken right into custody. She probably wouldn't be should probably
be given a sentence and date in a week or two,
you know, able time to get sort of her affairs
in order, as we say, and then the parties make
argument to the judge about what sentence should be imposed,
(39:38):
and then the judge essentially gets to decide, so it
would be judge, canoni.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Do they take her a passport?
Speaker 9 (39:43):
I think they already have a passport? Oh yeahs no license,
no passport.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
They have her lexus to right, Yeah, they got everything.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
You got another one? Just watch it, all right? Thank you, Catherine.
We don't know when you'll be back.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
But whatever, there's a verdicts call me. I'll be here.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And where can they find you once you can.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Find me it?
Speaker 9 (40:10):
Nope, my objection everywhere. TikTok, sup stack uh. You know
I'm talking about the case every day.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
All right.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Thanks for coming in on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Thanks having me
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