April 16, 2025 • 44 mins
We're halfway through the show now and the fun continues! Bob from the Boy and Girls Club of Dorchester joins the show, we have a controversial weird story, and Katherine Loftus breaks down the Karen read trial! Listen to Billy & Lisa weekdays from 6-10AM on Kiss 108!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, welcome back. You know, the Billy Lisa Morning Show.
We love to give back. We do a lot of
that because we enjoy it. We love it. So we've
got Bob Scannell, who's the president of the Boys and
Girls Club of Dorchester literally on the phone right now. Bob,
you there, I am Billy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good morning, Billy and Lisa. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Thanks for being here with us. Bob. You've got a
big week coming up, right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We do very exciting. In fact, tomorrow's a very very
big day for our organization. We're going to break ground
officially on what will be our fourth Boys and Girls
club here in Dorchester and it's called the Fieldhouse Plus
and a very very amazing project. We were in partnership
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with the Martin Richard Foundation, so you know which I'm
sure you've heard of, of course everyone has. They do
such great work, and we're partnering with the Foundation Boys
and Girls Clubs of Dorchester is and pulling our resources,
putting our heads together, and we're going to get this
thing built. It's pretty exceptional.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So you'll be able to double the amount of kids
that you can serve with this field House, right, Bob, you're.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right, Lisa, because right now we have over four thousand
kids who belong to our three boys and girls clubs. Yeah,
and we've been in the community for fifty years, so
we've been around for quite a while. But this new
facility is it's magnificent. It's seventy five thousand square feet.
It is everything a child could hope and dream for.
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And we just can't wait to break ground and then
eventually cut the ribbon late twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, I'm actually looking at a rendering of the building.
It looks phenomenal. Give us an idea as to some
of the programs and facilities inside.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, well, the facility is in some ways unique. It's
you know, I think it's more of a first of
a kind because what we have for status is an
indoor turf field, which doesn't exist for youth in the
city of Boston. So and I know, you know, and
a lot of parents know from bringing their kids to basketball, soccer, field, hockey, whatever,
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traveling to the suburbs, it's not in the city. But
we're going to have that facility in the city of Boston.
In addition to that, we'll have you know, we'll have
indoor and outdoor courts which is really amazing, indoor walking
and running track, a music studio, theater, we have a
rooftop garden which is pretty cool, fitness and training centers,
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a cafe, I mean, you name it, and we have
really amazing outdoor space, outdoor green space. So this facility
has everything. And again it's seventy five thousand school feet
which is amazing, and it comes with a big price
tag too because it is so exceptional. So that's what. Oh, yeah,
we're really how at work all of us here, Our
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teams are doing a great job, and we've been really,
really blessed that at this point we've had exceptional donors
from the private and public sector who have committed at
this point forty three million dollars our goal. Yeah, not
bad for a boys and girls club, Right, We're doing
okay here.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well, I have to say I visited the boys and
Girls clubs you are other three facilities a few weeks ago,
and I met Bob and I met all of the kids.
I was there after school when they all came in,
and I have to tell you the camaraderie, the friendship
that you guys, that you guys are able to create
that for all of the kids and they come back
and they make friends for life. I loved seeing everything
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that you're doing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And something's never changed, right Bob, years and years ago,
is like, you know, get the kids off the street,
keep them off the street, And that's exactly what you're doing.
You're given and giving them a place to go.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, there's not a whole lot of options for kids
in the city these days and in our neighborhoods, so
it's very, very important that we have Boys and Girls
Club to serve the kids and their families because you're right, Billy,
there's not a ton of options. But what we do
is we offer so many different opportunities at this something
for every child and we do it in a safe
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environment with amazing staff carrying adults looking over the children
and their families too, So that's really important. And Lisa,
it was nice to have you visit the kids and
the staff and everyone enjoyed having you here. That was
nice you to take time out of your day. And
I know your listener has already heard this, but congratulations
once again on the new England Women's Leadership Board that
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you'll get it in May from our organization.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh yeah, Lisa Donovan Women's Leadership Award.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it and I feel
so honored. But I want to do a shout out
to Noah, who is a young girl who gave me
the tour of the facility.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And is she singing at the groundbreaking tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, she is. She's exceptional. First of all, she's a
great leader here, but her talent is really amazing and
she'll actually kick off the program singing the staff spangled banner.
So we're really excited about that great way to start
the day tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And it's amazing that Martin Richard's name is on the facility.
Yesterday was one Boston Day. The marathon is coming up
on Monday, and the groundbreaking is happening the week of
the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh a lot of emotion there, Yeah, right, Billy, I
got emotion of just saying that mean too, and I
did hearing it. And you know, Bill and Denise Richard
to pour their heart and soul into this project, and
I can't even I can't even begin to tell you
how much they've done to make this happen. So Bill
and I we put our heads together. You know, it's
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been at seven years ago, since we sat in my
office we had this vision and now here we are.
So this is a very exciting moment for us. But
Bill and I we kind of laughed, like, well, grat
we raised forty million, but we got to raise seventy.
So you know, the groundbreaking will be kind of a
nice kickoff to the next phase of our capital campaign
and we'll be looking for more friends to hopefully share
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our vision and jump on board and al let's get
the goal.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
We're forever remembering the victims of the marathon bombings thirteen
years ago. And so Monday is another big day in
the city and the groundbreaking is one and can people go?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
People can go? Yeah, we've got a big crowd coming
and it is. It is tomorrow at eleven am and
it's on Mount Vernon Street in Dorchester, and you know
it's going to be quite a program. You know, obviously
with Noah kicking it off, that's very exciting. And you
know Governor Healey will speak, Mayor wu Senator Marquee, Congressman
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Lynch in many in many other dignitaries. So we're really
really blessed to have this kind of support. All our
elected officials lined up in our corner and said, hey,
we got to get this done. The representative Hunt, Senator Collins,
councilor Fitzgerald, they have worked so hard to get this done.
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But yes, it's so it's I'm just so grateful that
they see what we see here, a need for these
kids and to have a place and it's essential. And Lisa,
to your earlier question, yes, well we're more than double
our membership from from the four thousand children we have
now to aelve over additional five thousand, so and it
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is important. It's a big day for the city.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And if people want to get involved or find out information,
just go to Boys and Girls Clubs Dorchester dot org.
And also you can buy a ticket to the gala too,
which is May thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yes you can. The stick is still available, so that's great.
We're looking for sponsors for that. We're always we've always
got something going on here that's exciting and fun and
that events amazing. Well and for this week though, the
big deal and the big news is that we're going
to break ground tomorrow in there you've got very excited.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, congratulations on the groundbreaking and thank you Bob for
your years of work with the Boys and Girls Club,
and we look forward to the gala and the congratulations
to Liasta Dunovan being honored by the Boys and Girls
Club of Dorchester. Bob, thank you so much for checking in.
Have a great week.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Thank you, have a great week.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Ni.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
My sons are Boys and Girls Club member. There you
got the small programs summer camp. It's just amazing.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
All right.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
We have stories up next. That little incident happened at
the Atlanta Braves game the other night. We'll talk about
it inside Weird Stories. Next, Kiss Went Away.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
Kiss went Away with Billy and Lisa's Weird Stories.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Okay, so this happened at an Atlanta Braves game.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
A guy named Wiley Ballard.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
He is a sideline reporter for the Braves, and he
was at the Toronto Rogers Center and he was actually
doing his job. He was interviewing people on the sidelines
and then one of his colleagues said, Hey, the two
girls you just interviewed, maybe you should get one of
their numbers.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Who we got you wish your name.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
My name is Lauren and I'm Kayla.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You guys hanging out the rooftop lounge.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Ofphen Once a year I come out to visit.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, Wiley bar innings to get the numbers.
Speaker 9 (08:39):
Come on, come on, come on, all right, so they
want me to get your numbers, they want you to
get it.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm dead serious.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
So the best part of this right now is that
Wiley could totally be faking and this might be the
new move. You just walk around with a fan duel
microphone and an earpiecing and convinced fans that they're actually
on TV.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I should have thought of his years ago.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I got the number.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
We're good.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Know what he's getting slammed for it?
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Listen, he shot his shot.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, it's on the job.
Speaker 10 (09:10):
You think that's okay, Billy, Let's let's switch it up here.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I'm the side of the reporter.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
You're in the booth and I see a cute guy
and you're like, Hey, what's going on over there? You're
not gonna, you know, exchange. You would do the same
thing that they did. It's like and it's kind of
work because you're it's like a little bit for the
for the for the show.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
It worked for me. And he's really cute. He's really cute.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Can I ask you a question? Where's he working now?
Does he still have a job? Everything.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Now everyone's got a problem, everyone's getting canceled. It's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Cute, it's cute.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
A guy asked my number that way, I'd be like,
here's my number, Like I don't understand the issue. And
also at the same time, his co workers coast him
to do it a bit.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It was a bit. Yeah, maybe off the outrage. Oh,
this is Billy step popping right now.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
You know what, you know what Billy does in the
booth yesterday the first inning was thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We're hanging with the official burder of your Boston.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
You know what.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
Fine, Yeah, you're literally the guy that would say get
her number.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, I'm pretty much as creepy as he, So just
move along. How about the eighteen year old high school
kid who now is on the bill Rica Town select Board.
This is incredible. What's his name is Daniel Daris O'Connor.
He ran a successful political campaign between completing homework, assignmon's
door knocking, and fetching over twenty seven hundred votes. He's
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on the board.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Unbelievable. Let's go to Dougie me and I served on
a few committees and presented articles at town meeting and
you know, no one else really seemed to step up,
so I stepped up brand and thankfully one I'm feeling great.
I'm very happy that the voters of Berrika had their
faith in me. And I'm looking forward, you know, to
bring a new perspective this select board and work on
the half of the residents of Erica. How about this
guy Daniel planning to be a vocal, planning to be
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vocal on items like hiring a new town manager, a
new middle school, and upgrades to the police department. He
will serve a three year term.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Love it, let's hear it?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Love it?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Where was that? Bill?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Bill? Rica?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Hey, say it right.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's not go.
Speaker 11 (11:19):
Rica, It's Rica. And if you don't say it right, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Gonna I love it. Okay, he's on the board in Rica,
all right, I said it fine.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
You Bill? You do entertainment every morning six and eight forty.
It is coming upon eight forty. So what do we got?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
We get a lot going on. First of all, the
Celtics are headed to the playoffs, and we now know
who they will play in Round one this coming Sunday.
We've got that. We've got a little new music and
some news on Thomas rhet it's all coming up next
stand by it.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
And we're back with Billy and Lisa in the morning.
Speaker 12 (12:00):
But if I got to wake up early, might as
well get a good laugh on Kiss one away.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well that's nice.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
If doua leap, isn't it And she's coming to Boston
in September at the TV Garden.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well she'd better get in here then. Yeah, I mean,
if she's telling the truth, she got to be in here.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And we're giving tickets away in the in the car giveaway.
Do you keep a ticket?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Yeah, she's one of the one of the many pairs
of tickets that you'll qualify with two ten is your
next shot?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, we had a qualifier this morning. I know that.
Speaker 13 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Go to the Kiss Instagram all the information directions you
need to win, not just the tickets, but a new
car Kiss Instagram the pin post.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Two of my favorite things in the world are when
Justine's Boston accent slips out and when when he starts
uncontrollably laughing inappropriately, literally my two favorite.
Speaker 10 (12:46):
Things on this planet.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Well, Billy has the issue with laughing inappropriately.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, yeah, yeah, I've been doing it since I was
a kid.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yeah. Well, mother constantly. What are you laughing at? Oh,
it's a real it's a real condition. No, No, it's
a medical condition pb a.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Pseudo bulber affect. PBA causes frequent episodes.
Speaker 13 (13:06):
Of uncontrollable crying or laughing in people with brain injuries
or neurologic conditions.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Like stroke, dementia, or MS.
Speaker 13 (13:14):
It's a neurologic condition, not psychological, and it's treatable.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Out of they have med They probably have medication, that's all.
How you have that weird thing?
Speaker 10 (13:26):
You know?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
You sound like the joker, you know, like what's his name?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Now the entertainment updates with the Billy Copstad.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
We're going to start with the sports and why not
Celtics ready for Game one of the playoffs. It's going
to be the Celts and the Orlando Magic of this
coming Sunday, Game one. The Magic knocked off the Hawks
last night. Red Sox beat the Jays yesterday. The bigger
story though, Alex Bregman went five for five with two
home runs in the game. Oh and there was another highlight.
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The game was delayed because of a high pitched squeal.
Here was the call? Were he won ball game? Now
a little buzz in the ballpark, and it's not the fans,
all right, I can't. It really hurts, doesn't. Yeah. NFL
Draft just nine days away now. Patriots coach Mike vrabel
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on what he is hoping for me, I think it's.
Speaker 14 (14:29):
To add as many you know, quality players and quality people.
You know, you want to come out of it with
some starters. You want to come out of it with
some depth role players that that can that can build
the strength and the you know, the depth of the roster.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All right, So we got all that done. Right now
we can talk about Bill Belichick's girlfriend, Jordan.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
We want to talk about there's a.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Buzz out there.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
She is creating a buzz and it's not all good.
So now a video posted earlier this week of her
parading up and down the sidelines. It appeared to me
like she was yelling at some of the coaches and
assistant coaches. She was carrying a whistle, she.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Was directing something that had to do with Bill.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, and it's the UNC football practice where I wouldn't
imagine she belongs there. What would be her role?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Again?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
She's acting as Bill's right hand person, his personal assistant.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Okay, which one of us is going to talk to Bill. Well,
you know, I'm willing. Okay, Okay, Bill, I know this
is kind of a weird time for you.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Well they're calling him the most pe whipped person.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, well that's the way it's coming across. Yeah, and
I gotta be careful. I don't want Jordan coming after me.
She'd the wish she did with winning.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Well, this is actually like a news story.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
This is like nothing that we're making up or you know,
it's like it's not gossipy basically because it's a public
university UNC. They requested the emails that Jordan is set on.
Matt Baker from the Athletics show requested them and in them. Basically,
why she's involved is that she, for one thing, she
thinks that UNC wasn't doing as good a job as
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they could have on social blocking all of the negative
comments that they were getting as a couple. There were
comments like he's a predator and they weren't taking them
down fast enough.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So that was her one grape.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
The second one was that she doesn't want Steve Belichick
to be looked at as like a NEPO baby kind
of situation where Bill hired him. They want him to
be you know, they want to focus on his you know,
coaching ability and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
So those are the emails that she was on.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And doesn't she want him to take ownership of his catchphrases,
you know, like no days after your job, ignore the noise,
all those.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Next Bales version.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, but don't the Patriots own those they do?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Yeah, she's trying to do the Taylor Swift move and
trademark them with the slogan and then in parentheses Bills
version like Taylor.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And here's the deal all of this, you know what
we're talking about, all of the comversation we've had this
morning about Jordan. You need to keep in mind, this
is what Jordan wants. Okay, So she's not going to
get mad at us. We're doing exactly what she wants
us to do. She wants to be talked about.
Speaker 10 (17:12):
Well, the reason why I agree with Bill is because
the behind my scenes stuff is one thing. But being
out publicly on the field with a snake skin jacket
down to your boots, yea boot high knee boots.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Could you describe those again?
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Walking around like Crowsville.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's the honest thing.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
A beautiful outfit, powder blue, but You're right, it just
wasn't It didn't fit the activity.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Again, yes, yeah, but if she weren't dressed like that
in high heels, by the way, on the football field,
if she weren't dressed like that, we wouldn't be talking
about her as much. It was such a misfit, that's
the activity.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
She looked like she was going out for the evening.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, she could have wore leggings and a good
workout shirt. And I like, it's what an odd that
she was down there because Bill has been married in
long term relations before and you've never seen his wife
or girlfriend at anything football really outside of a game watching.
So that was enough, right, Then you add in the
outfit that could be on a runway at you know, fashion.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
With Yeah, she was wearing the high.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Now keep in mind this is another development. Okay, keep
in mind that the Gronk Beach event is this coming
Sunday night in Vegas. Now, he knows Belichick is busy
with UNC football, right, but there's an open invite for
Bill and for Jordan Donch.
Speaker 15 (18:46):
Belichick has an invite to any of my events.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Or parties that I ever have in the rest of
my life.
Speaker 15 (18:54):
And I'm pretty sure that he's pretty busy right now
being the head coach you know, at North Caro, but
he wants to come. He will have full VP, him
and his lovely girl, and they'll get as many drinks
as they would like, and they will never have to
pay for.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
A thing you want. My prediction, Jordan is going alone,
you know what?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And she she could be because I'm sure she would
love to hang out with Camille Ron's girlfriend and have
that sort of girl time.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Well, what should do it for the ground? What is
she gonna wear? Boot? Hi me boots.
Speaker 10 (19:27):
I'm so glad that I turned on my radio just
now for this topic.
Speaker 11 (19:32):
This girl is on another planet. She wants Taylor's Spas's
attentions so hard. I'm embarrassed for her. Girl, take it
down a notch.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We all see you.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
It's so true.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah, listen, she was we talked about her. She was
insulted by some comments that were made about cheerleading. Yeah,
but she didn't really seem to care about anything we
said about her and Bill that was she was not
concerned about that. I did talk to her on the phone,
but she did promise to come on this show and
then she blew us off. I had a long conversation
where her she was super nice when she promised to
come on, and then she blew us off.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So yeah, yeah, I didn't blame her for getting mad
when Winnie bashed her for cheerleaders. Okay, but this thing,
I don't know. On the sidelines, and by the way,
it's early in the season. On the sidelines giving orders
and wearing a whistle and dressed like he's going to
a gala. It just hit me. I'm like, Okay, someone
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needs to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It just didn't fit the activity. Again, if she had
been in leggings and you know, a cute little T shirt,
she still could have looked so cute.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
But never would fly to an NFL team, No, oh no.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Never, never.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Oh my god. You talk about Bill Belichick being he whipped,
and Billy Costa is terrified to say anything bad about
Jordan because he thinks she'll come after him.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
That's awesome, Billy, I love you. Oh yeah, she would
kick your.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Butt if she were to come after me. I wouldn't
know what to.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Say, Like it's but it's funny, like you're like, you're fearful.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, Ki, Yeah, she would they're very nice boots.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
By the way, I loved loved her.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, it was attractive.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It was. The other buzz story is Gail King and
the rest of the the Blue Origin crew still taking
heat for that flight the other night on the rocket
or the other day on the rocket. So many celebrities,
by the way, females have come out against it, Amy
Schumer being one of them. And here's some of what
Amy said.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
Guys, last second, they added me to space, and I'm
going to space.
Speaker 16 (21:46):
I'm bringing this thing.
Speaker 12 (21:51):
It has no meaning to me, but it was in
my bag and I was like on the subway and
I got the text and they were like, do you
want to go to space? So I'm going to space
and thank you to everyone who got me here, and
I'll see you guys in space.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And Gail King actually responded, I really resent that people
are calling it a rye.
Speaker 10 (22:15):
We duplicated the trajectory of Alan Shepherd's flight.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Back in the day.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
No one called that a ride. A ride sounds frivolous,
it sounds insignificant.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
This was a going to fide flight.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So you know, I say, have you been to space?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Have you seen what Blue Origin does to.
Speaker 10 (22:32):
Get these machines up, get them up, and get them
down with the precision that they do.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm sorry, there are haters. There's always going to be here.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Are you surprised that she responded like that about the haters?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
First of all, Alan Shepherd's mission was a very very
long time ago. It was a big deal. It was
when Alan Shepherd went to the entrance of space, so
to speak. Look this, you know, it was an amusement ride,
let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But I do have to say we all watched it
together and we were mesmerized by the precision and by
the power of what that was. So you know, I
can see both sides like going into space and that
that's important.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So okay, it was a spectator event, but it didn't
change womankind.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Well again, we've talked about like what was where they
take Where is there data from this trip? Like what
have they taken from it to learn more about space trips?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
This is the thing.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
This was a personal experience for all six women in there,
which is great. They're enlightened. But the people that made
the flight work are scientists on the ground.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, RCT.
Speaker 10 (23:37):
It's basically like going to six Flags or cap like
and being strapped in and the operator pushing the button
and then you taking credit for the roller coaster ride.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, there was no research, you know what I mean
on this trip.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It was it's for space tourism exactly, and that none
of us can ever afford.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Right, That's the.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Thing very few people will.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Olivia mund called it, say gluttonous, Yeah, it's a good
word for and.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Didn't pay for it.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Jeff Basil paid for it as a so his girlfriend
could take her friends up for a little ride.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Which you're referring to. What was there were her friends
and they were He didn't mean her brast.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I meant like Katie Perry friends.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well yeah, I meant like, you know, her girlfriend. Because
the other friends went up in Great Pari, you know,
I mean, anything happened.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Maybe that's what they were studying.
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Speaker 1 (25:18):
Hey, guys, so welcome back. It is, in fact, the
Billy and Lisa Morning Show. Everybody's paying attention to the
Karen Reid retrial. Apparently finally they have seated a jury
and the opening statements will come early next week. So
we thought it'd be a good time to check in
with our official legal expert to Catherine Loftus. Katherine, you there,
I'm here, Good morning, guys. Morning Katherine. I gotta ask
(25:41):
a stupid question, okay, although it may not be that stupid. Okay. So,
you know they agonize about seating the jury, and I
know it's agonizing for both the prosecutors and the defense,
and they ask all these questions of the potential jurors.
My stupid question, Katherine, is what's just top potential jurors
(26:01):
from lying?
Speaker 9 (26:03):
There really is an Unfortunately, the system that we work
on in the jury system, ability.
Speaker 11 (26:08):
Is the honor system. And what the difficult part is
was a case like this, you.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
Know the amount of publicity the number of people on
both sides who you know, there is the potential of
sneaking on not being honest on the question he as
that were given to all the jurors. The hope is
that that is vetted out, you know, through the Vuadia process,
which is when the individual jurors are questioned at sidebar
(26:35):
with Judge Canoni as well as the defense and the Commonwealth.
They all were allowed to research the jurors once they've
been sad. So the hope is that if there was
anybody that was not being truthful or you.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
Know, left some things out, that they caught that.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
But ultimately it does come down to the to really
holding people to account and hoping that people trust and
respect in the jury system enough to be honest about
their feelings.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But when you say research the jurors, what do you mean?
Do they scan their social media accounts? What do they do?
Speaker 11 (27:07):
That's right?
Speaker 9 (27:08):
So normally this isn't something that's allowed, but because of
the level of publicity surrounding this case, what the parties
were allowed to do was to take the juror information
at the end of the day. Normally you have to
return the jury questionings and the list of journeyings are
not kept within the purview of the defense or the Commonwealth.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
That goes back to the court and to the clerk.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
They were allowed to take that information essentially home, and
after the jurors were sad, they were allowed to you know,
look through their social media, online presence, anything like that.
We actually lost I believe the total was forgers throughout
the process. So after they had been static gone through Vadia,
they were removed. Now, we have not been advised by
(27:50):
the court whether that was as a result of, you know,
some discrepancies or you know, something that.
Speaker 11 (27:56):
Was found later to be untruthful.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
That hasn't been released by the court as to the
basis that those jurors were taken off the jury, but
one can surmise that there might have been at least
a couple that that happened with Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
So the trial will start with opening arguments on Tuesday,
and they're saying that Hank Brennan is going to go
right out of the gate with a lot of these
interviews that Karen Reid has done recently. How much damage
do you think they could potentially do to her?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Well, I think it's what the komal The goal of
opening statements is to really present the layout of the
case to the jury, and in this instance, it's not
only to the jury, it's to the public as a whole.
So the goal for both the Komwalth and the defense
is to basically put the best foot forward. And what
I think Attorney Brennan believes is that the statements that
Karen Reid has made from the time of this incident
(28:48):
on January twenty eighth and twenty ninth, through.
Speaker 11 (28:50):
The tendency of the first trial and in.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
Interviews with the media afterwards, actually show a sort of
an inconsistent pattern and a changing set of events from
her perspective, which he's going to argue that lends itself
to this idea of consciousness of guilts, that she's changing
her story. With each media interview, you see a few
more details added that are largely self serving, and I
(29:15):
think that they believe that that's one of the stronger pieces
of their case.
Speaker 13 (29:19):
Now.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
During the first trial, Adam Lelly did not present any
of the statements that were made by Karen read two
different media outlets, and I think it's going to be
the exact opposite this way, Like you said, he's coming
right out the gate and going to be using not
only the statements, but it sounds like he's actually going
to be playing them either via audio or video in
his opening.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So, as the official legal expert of the Billy and
Lisa Morning Show the TV interviews, do you think they
helped or hurt her?
Speaker 11 (29:47):
I think they hurt her ultimately.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
In the issue really is is that you know, when
we say anything you say, cannon will be used against
you in a court of law. You know, even when
you believe you're in you you know, it's you say
you're innocent, your attorneys believe you're innocent. The problem with
speaking is that even if you believe you're doing so
in good faith, the government has the right to use
(30:10):
those statements and they can use them in any way
they want. And so if they believe that they can
present those statements in a way that's not beneficial to you,
ultimately it's going to harm. So it's a really kind
of interesting analysis about, you know, what the effects those
statements will have and whether that was a good idea
for them to allow her to do that.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Wow, this just gets more and more interesting. Now. The
former juror who is now a lawyer for the read team.
Does she have a specialty.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
I don't believe so. My understanding is that she practiced
for maybe a year or two prior to sitting on
the jury in this case, with a background in labor
and employment law.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
She's employed now with.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
David Ynetti's office, so it appears, at least from you know,
my research, that this is her first criminal case.
Speaker 11 (31:01):
I think what she adds to the case really was.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
Ultimately about the jury process and you know, who to pick,
and maybe the perspective that she had as somebody who
sat through it. But in terms of you know, whether
she's going to be taking any witnesses or making any arguments,
I think that's pretty unlikely.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Now, the crowds outside the courthouse, you think there'll be
more people this time around or less.
Speaker 11 (31:24):
I think they'll probably be less.
Speaker 9 (31:25):
The buffer zone has been expanded past the two hundred
feet that it.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Was set for trial number one.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
There's actually an appeal relative to that buffer zone pendon
in federal court right now, so it could be potentially
made smaller. But I think given the fact that the
protesters or supporters are basically required to be a decent
amount of way from the courthouse, is probably going to
lessen the amount of people that actually come because they're
(31:53):
not going to have much interaction, you know, with the
Red Team or Karen Reid herself as she walked through
a little bit different than last.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Time, Catherine, there's court in session for other things right
at Deadham District Court, So like, how are people just
going to go and have their case heard?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Er if you're on a different jury, what.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Is that like?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Right?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
It is?
Speaker 11 (32:15):
It's difficult. So it is still a working courthouse.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
It's you know, Norfolk Superior, so they handled not only criminal.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
Cases but civil cases. There's a docket.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
You know, there's probably dozens of cases each day, platists, defendants,
attorneys who have to come in and out.
Speaker 11 (32:29):
So obviously it.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Creates a burden for many of the people in the
community as well. The Deadham Neighborhood Association submitted a letter
to the court asking for the buffer zone to be
expanded because it had interrupted their business last time.
Speaker 11 (32:43):
So it's certainly a burden not only on the people who.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Are coming into the court for other matters, but on
the community itself. But ultimately, you know, there's a sort
of the balancing of interests and that people have a
right to protest, and the jury also has a right
to be free from any intrusion of those protests onto
their deliberations, so it kind of have a middle ground.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
As we say.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Now, a couple of weeks ago, somebody said something to
me and I thought, there's no way that's possible that
the judge what's her name, she's the godmother of one
of the family members on the prosecution side.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
I have not heard that before, Billy, but I would
venture to guess that that is untrue. I would imagine
if there was any substance to that, you would have
heard it in court and as a basis for for
her recusal.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, I would, Yeah, I would major you would think, so, yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
And that you know, And that's the difficult part with
this case is that there's so much information out there,
and some of it has you know, morssels of truth
to it, and a lot of it doesn't at all.
But it's difficult sometimes for people to discern, you know,
what's what's true and what's not.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
So that's what makes this case really interesting.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
It's you know, it's the analysis of how a trial
is perceived, you know, in the public eye through social
media and you know, deciphering you know, what's true and
what's not.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I will say this Judge Canoni seems to have complete
control of that court room.
Speaker 11 (34:16):
Well, you know, it's it's difficult.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
I know that there is a lot of critique of
the judge in this case, and quite frankly, I don't
know that there would be any less critique if there
was any other judge. There's a lot of eyes on
the case, and there's a lot of decisions that have been.
Speaker 11 (34:32):
Made that are you know, counter to what sort of
the public perception is.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Really from a legal perspective, she's pretty on points. She's
been upheld you know, by various appellate courts on multiple
appellate issues.
Speaker 11 (34:48):
So as much as.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
People may not like it, I think she is doing
a decent job of controlling the court.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, I guess that was my point. It was like,
given the fact that there have been some weird decisions
made during the course of the trial, she at least
has control of the courtroom.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
That appears well she's trying.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
And I think that's what you know said in the
buffer zone set in the rules right on the front end.
You know, ultimately we have you know a number of
different things going on. We have everybody paying attention not
only on the local level media, but now nationally. And
then we have you know, the families of both Karen
Reid and John o'keef. So you know, she's really her
(35:29):
job is to make sure everything runs as efficiently as possible,
and it's certainly not an easy job, and I don't
envy her position.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
All right.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Opening statements on Tuesday, Catherine, thank you so much. Thank
you for getting up early for us.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, we're all over it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I can't wait all over all right.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
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My best friend and I are doing a girls trip
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This is our first time going and very excited for it.
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I'm excited for you too. Everything's great. We just do
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like the sixth er and D's mom. That's like a
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She just DMS me I can give her our whole itinerary.
So yeah, we do the girls trip every year. We're
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In Paris you can buy beer and McDonald.
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up the show. We do the wrap up at nine
every morning. I'll tell you what you missed. We had
a couple of guests, Catherine Loftus talk about Karen Reid.
Also Bob Scanal from the Boys and Girls Club. Big
event happening tomorrow. Anyway, we'll cover it all, all your
talkbacks in the wrap.
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Well, we're on a good role trying to give away
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Right now, I am My car actually died. So I
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Yeah, Well gifts don't last, you know, whoever gave the
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We had a good topic time this morning, your weirdest
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So this isn't my greatest fear, but it's definitely my weirdest.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
But I do have armful of phobia, which unfortunately is
secure belly buddies.
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Oh I've never heard of that.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I'mlaphobia.
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So every okay, must be hard for her in the
summer and at the beach, afraid of like probably like
zones she can't even go to.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
Is she afraid of her own belly button?
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Like afraid?
Speaker 10 (41:10):
Well, well, the unknown is in there could be. I
mean it's an interesting it's a bacteria.
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Looking thing if you really think about it.
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Speaker 1 (41:28):
My grandmother lost hers What.
Speaker 10 (41:29):
Do you mean she lost She had thirteen kids and
they got it was gone.
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She lost her belly button after having thirteen kids.
Speaker 12 (41:36):
I don't know what.
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Too many cords were cut.
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I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
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her to her mom.
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Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Yeah, connection, that's her fear, you know, that's what it.
Also this morning, we had Bob skinnal on from the
Boys and Girls Club of Dorchester. They're breaking ground on
a brand new facility tomorrow. Bob was super cool.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
This new facility is it's magnificent. It's seventy five thousand
square feet. It is everything a child could hope and
dream for. And we just can't wait to break ground
and then eventually cut the ribbon late twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Yeah, the Boys and Girls Club of Dorchester are teaming
up with the Martin Richard Foundation. Yeah, it's going to
be a big event tomorrow. So thank you Bob for
calling in. Also, we had Katherine Loftus on the Karen
Reid trial. Eighteen jurors they sat, Yes, they went through
almost six hundred people to seat eighteen. The trial starts Tuesday.
And Katn Loftus, who's our legal expert, says that she
(42:38):
thinks the interviews that Karen Reed did.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Is going to hurt her.
Speaker 9 (42:41):
Even when you believe you're innocent. You know, if you
say you're innocent, your attorneys believe you're innocent. The problem
with speaking is that even if you believe you're doing
so in good faith, the government has the right to
use those statements and they can use them in any
way they want.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
And Hank Brennan's going tow Yeah, so that'll start next week.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
We'll have and loft Us on as we usually do,
to break it all down and finally have a quick
shout out, Okay, can I do this?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yes?
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the morning tomorrow everybody. In the meantime, here comes the
Mighty McCabe. He's in the door.
Hey guys, welcome back. You know, the Billy Lisa Morning Show.
We love to give back. We do a lot of
that because we enjoy it. We love it. So we've
got Bob Scannell, who's the president of the Boys and
Girls Club of Dorchester literally on the phone right now. Bob,
you there, I am Billy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good morning, Billy and Lisa. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Thanks for being here with us. Bob. You've got a
big week coming up, right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We do very exciting. In fact, tomorrow's a very very
big day for our organization. We're going to break ground
officially on what will be our fourth Boys and Girls
club here in Dorchester and it's called the Fieldhouse Plus
and a very very amazing project. We were in partnership
(00:43):
with the Martin Richard Foundation, so you know which I'm
sure you've heard of, of course everyone has. They do
such great work, and we're partnering with the Foundation Boys
and Girls Clubs of Dorchester is and pulling our resources,
putting our heads together, and we're going to get this
thing built. It's pretty exceptional.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So you'll be able to double the amount of kids
that you can serve with this field House, right, Bob, you're.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right, Lisa, because right now we have over four thousand
kids who belong to our three boys and girls clubs. Yeah,
and we've been in the community for fifty years, so
we've been around for quite a while. But this new
facility is it's magnificent. It's seventy five thousand square feet.
It is everything a child could hope and dream for.
(01:30):
And we just can't wait to break ground and then
eventually cut the ribbon late twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, I'm actually looking at a rendering of the building.
It looks phenomenal. Give us an idea as to some
of the programs and facilities inside.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, well, the facility is in some ways unique. It's
you know, I think it's more of a first of
a kind because what we have for status is an
indoor turf field, which doesn't exist for youth in the
city of Boston. So and I know, you know, and
a lot of parents know from bringing their kids to basketball, soccer, field, hockey, whatever,
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traveling to the suburbs, it's not in the city. But
we're going to have that facility in the city of Boston.
In addition to that, we'll have you know, we'll have
indoor and outdoor courts which is really amazing, indoor walking
and running track, a music studio, theater, we have a
rooftop garden which is pretty cool, fitness and training centers,
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a cafe, I mean, you name it, and we have
really amazing outdoor space, outdoor green space. So this facility
has everything. And again it's seventy five thousand school feet
which is amazing, and it comes with a big price
tag too because it is so exceptional. So that's what. Oh, yeah,
we're really how at work all of us here, Our
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teams are doing a great job, and we've been really,
really blessed that at this point we've had exceptional donors
from the private and public sector who have committed at
this point forty three million dollars our goal. Yeah, not
bad for a boys and girls club, Right, We're doing
okay here.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well, I have to say I visited the boys and
Girls clubs you are other three facilities a few weeks ago,
and I met Bob and I met all of the kids.
I was there after school when they all came in,
and I have to tell you the camaraderie, the friendship
that you guys, that you guys are able to create
that for all of the kids and they come back
and they make friends for life. I loved seeing everything
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that you're doing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And something's never changed, right Bob, years and years ago,
is like, you know, get the kids off the street,
keep them off the street, And that's exactly what you're doing.
You're given and giving them a place to go.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, there's not a whole lot of options for kids
in the city these days and in our neighborhoods, so
it's very, very important that we have Boys and Girls
Club to serve the kids and their families because you're right, Billy,
there's not a ton of options. But what we do
is we offer so many different opportunities at this something
for every child and we do it in a safe
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environment with amazing staff carrying adults looking over the children
and their families too, So that's really important. And Lisa,
it was nice to have you visit the kids and
the staff and everyone enjoyed having you here. That was
nice you to take time out of your day. And
I know your listener has already heard this, but congratulations
once again on the new England Women's Leadership Board that
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you'll get it in May from our organization.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh yeah, Lisa Donovan Women's Leadership Award.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it and I feel
so honored. But I want to do a shout out
to Noah, who is a young girl who gave me
the tour of the facility.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And is she singing at the groundbreaking tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, she is. She's exceptional. First of all, she's a
great leader here, but her talent is really amazing and
she'll actually kick off the program singing the staff spangled banner.
So we're really excited about that great way to start
the day tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And it's amazing that Martin Richard's name is on the facility.
Yesterday was one Boston Day. The marathon is coming up
on Monday, and the groundbreaking is happening the week of
the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh a lot of emotion there, Yeah, right, Billy, I
got emotion of just saying that mean too, and I
did hearing it. And you know, Bill and Denise Richard
to pour their heart and soul into this project, and
I can't even I can't even begin to tell you
how much they've done to make this happen. So Bill
and I we put our heads together. You know, it's
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been at seven years ago, since we sat in my
office we had this vision and now here we are.
So this is a very exciting moment for us. But
Bill and I we kind of laughed, like, well, grat
we raised forty million, but we got to raise seventy.
So you know, the groundbreaking will be kind of a
nice kickoff to the next phase of our capital campaign
and we'll be looking for more friends to hopefully share
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our vision and jump on board and al let's get
the goal.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
We're forever remembering the victims of the marathon bombings thirteen
years ago. And so Monday is another big day in
the city and the groundbreaking is one and can people go?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
People can go? Yeah, we've got a big crowd coming
and it is. It is tomorrow at eleven am and
it's on Mount Vernon Street in Dorchester, and you know
it's going to be quite a program. You know, obviously
with Noah kicking it off, that's very exciting. And you
know Governor Healey will speak, Mayor wu Senator Marquee, Congressman
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Lynch in many in many other dignitaries. So we're really
really blessed to have this kind of support. All our
elected officials lined up in our corner and said, hey,
we got to get this done. The representative Hunt, Senator Collins,
councilor Fitzgerald, they have worked so hard to get this done.
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But yes, it's so it's I'm just so grateful that
they see what we see here, a need for these
kids and to have a place and it's essential. And Lisa,
to your earlier question, yes, well we're more than double
our membership from from the four thousand children we have
now to aelve over additional five thousand, so and it
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is important. It's a big day for the city.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And if people want to get involved or find out information,
just go to Boys and Girls Clubs Dorchester dot org.
And also you can buy a ticket to the gala too,
which is May thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yes you can. The stick is still available, so that's great.
We're looking for sponsors for that. We're always we've always
got something going on here that's exciting and fun and
that events amazing. Well and for this week though, the
big deal and the big news is that we're going
to break ground tomorrow in there you've got very excited.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, congratulations on the groundbreaking and thank you Bob for
your years of work with the Boys and Girls Club,
and we look forward to the gala and the congratulations
to Liasta Dunovan being honored by the Boys and Girls
Club of Dorchester. Bob, thank you so much for checking in.
Have a great week.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Thank you, have a great week.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Ni.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
My sons are Boys and Girls Club member. There you
got the small programs summer camp. It's just amazing.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
All right.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
We have stories up next. That little incident happened at
the Atlanta Braves game the other night. We'll talk about
it inside Weird Stories. Next, Kiss Went Away.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
Kiss went Away with Billy and Lisa's Weird Stories.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Okay, so this happened at an Atlanta Braves game.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
A guy named Wiley Ballard.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
He is a sideline reporter for the Braves, and he
was at the Toronto Rogers Center and he was actually
doing his job. He was interviewing people on the sidelines
and then one of his colleagues said, Hey, the two
girls you just interviewed, maybe you should get one of
their numbers.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Who we got you wish your name.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
My name is Lauren and I'm Kayla.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You guys hanging out the rooftop lounge.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Ofphen Once a year I come out to visit.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, Wiley bar innings to get the numbers.
Speaker 9 (08:39):
Come on, come on, come on, all right, so they
want me to get your numbers, they want you to
get it.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm dead serious.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
So the best part of this right now is that
Wiley could totally be faking and this might be the
new move. You just walk around with a fan duel
microphone and an earpiecing and convinced fans that they're actually
on TV.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I should have thought of his years ago.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I got the number.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
We're good.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Know what he's getting slammed for it?
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Listen, he shot his shot.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, it's on the job.
Speaker 10 (09:10):
You think that's okay, Billy, Let's let's switch it up here.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I'm the side of the reporter.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
You're in the booth and I see a cute guy
and you're like, Hey, what's going on over there? You're
not gonna, you know, exchange. You would do the same
thing that they did. It's like and it's kind of
work because you're it's like a little bit for the
for the for the show.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
It worked for me. And he's really cute. He's really cute.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Can I ask you a question? Where's he working now?
Does he still have a job? Everything.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Now everyone's got a problem, everyone's getting canceled. It's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Cute, it's cute.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
A guy asked my number that way, I'd be like,
here's my number, Like I don't understand the issue. And
also at the same time, his co workers coast him
to do it a bit.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It was a bit. Yeah, maybe off the outrage. Oh,
this is Billy step popping right now.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
You know what, you know what Billy does in the
booth yesterday the first inning was thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We're hanging with the official burder of your Boston.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
You know what.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
Fine, Yeah, you're literally the guy that would say get
her number.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, I'm pretty much as creepy as he, So just
move along. How about the eighteen year old high school
kid who now is on the bill Rica Town select Board.
This is incredible. What's his name is Daniel Daris O'Connor.
He ran a successful political campaign between completing homework, assignmon's
door knocking, and fetching over twenty seven hundred votes. He's
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on the board.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Unbelievable. Let's go to Dougie me and I served on
a few committees and presented articles at town meeting and
you know, no one else really seemed to step up,
so I stepped up brand and thankfully one I'm feeling great.
I'm very happy that the voters of Berrika had their
faith in me. And I'm looking forward, you know, to
bring a new perspective this select board and work on
the half of the residents of Erica. How about this
guy Daniel planning to be a vocal, planning to be
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vocal on items like hiring a new town manager, a
new middle school, and upgrades to the police department. He
will serve a three year term.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Love it, let's hear it?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Love it?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Where was that? Bill?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Bill? Rica?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Hey, say it right.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's not go.
Speaker 11 (11:19):
Rica, It's Rica. And if you don't say it right, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Gonna I love it. Okay, he's on the board in Rica,
all right, I said it fine.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
You Bill? You do entertainment every morning six and eight forty.
It is coming upon eight forty. So what do we got?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
We get a lot going on. First of all, the
Celtics are headed to the playoffs, and we now know
who they will play in Round one this coming Sunday.
We've got that. We've got a little new music and
some news on Thomas rhet it's all coming up next
stand by it.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
And we're back with Billy and Lisa in the morning.
Speaker 12 (12:00):
But if I got to wake up early, might as
well get a good laugh on Kiss one away.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well that's nice.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
If doua leap, isn't it And she's coming to Boston
in September at the TV Garden.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well she'd better get in here then. Yeah, I mean,
if she's telling the truth, she got to be in here.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And we're giving tickets away in the in the car giveaway.
Do you keep a ticket?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Yeah, she's one of the one of the many pairs
of tickets that you'll qualify with two ten is your
next shot?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, we had a qualifier this morning. I know that.
Speaker 13 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Go to the Kiss Instagram all the information directions you
need to win, not just the tickets, but a new
car Kiss Instagram the pin post.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Two of my favorite things in the world are when
Justine's Boston accent slips out and when when he starts
uncontrollably laughing inappropriately, literally my two favorite.
Speaker 10 (12:46):
Things on this planet.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Well, Billy has the issue with laughing inappropriately.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, yeah, yeah, I've been doing it since I was
a kid.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yeah. Well, mother constantly. What are you laughing at? Oh,
it's a real it's a real condition. No, No, it's
a medical condition pb a.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Pseudo bulber affect. PBA causes frequent episodes.
Speaker 13 (13:06):
Of uncontrollable crying or laughing in people with brain injuries
or neurologic conditions.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Like stroke, dementia, or MS.
Speaker 13 (13:14):
It's a neurologic condition, not psychological, and it's treatable.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Out of they have med They probably have medication, that's all.
How you have that weird thing?
Speaker 10 (13:26):
You know?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
You sound like the joker, you know, like what's his name?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Now the entertainment updates with the Billy Copstad.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
We're going to start with the sports and why not
Celtics ready for Game one of the playoffs. It's going
to be the Celts and the Orlando Magic of this
coming Sunday, Game one. The Magic knocked off the Hawks
last night. Red Sox beat the Jays yesterday. The bigger
story though, Alex Bregman went five for five with two
home runs in the game. Oh and there was another highlight.
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The game was delayed because of a high pitched squeal.
Here was the call? Were he won ball game? Now
a little buzz in the ballpark, and it's not the fans,
all right, I can't. It really hurts, doesn't. Yeah. NFL
Draft just nine days away now. Patriots coach Mike vrabel
(14:27):
on what he is hoping for me, I think it's.
Speaker 14 (14:29):
To add as many you know, quality players and quality people.
You know, you want to come out of it with
some starters. You want to come out of it with
some depth role players that that can that can build
the strength and the you know, the depth of the roster.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All right, So we got all that done. Right now
we can talk about Bill Belichick's girlfriend, Jordan.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
We want to talk about there's a.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Buzz out there.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
She is creating a buzz and it's not all good.
So now a video posted earlier this week of her
parading up and down the sidelines. It appeared to me
like she was yelling at some of the coaches and
assistant coaches. She was carrying a whistle, she.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Was directing something that had to do with Bill.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, and it's the UNC football practice where I wouldn't
imagine she belongs there. What would be her role?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Again?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
She's acting as Bill's right hand person, his personal assistant.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Okay, which one of us is going to talk to Bill. Well,
you know, I'm willing. Okay, Okay, Bill, I know this
is kind of a weird time for you.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Well they're calling him the most pe whipped person.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, well that's the way it's coming across. Yeah, and
I gotta be careful. I don't want Jordan coming after me.
She'd the wish she did with winning.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Well, this is actually like a news story.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
This is like nothing that we're making up or you know,
it's like it's not gossipy basically because it's a public
university UNC. They requested the emails that Jordan is set on.
Matt Baker from the Athletics show requested them and in them. Basically,
why she's involved is that she, for one thing, she
thinks that UNC wasn't doing as good a job as
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they could have on social blocking all of the negative
comments that they were getting as a couple. There were
comments like he's a predator and they weren't taking them
down fast enough.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So that was her one grape.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
The second one was that she doesn't want Steve Belichick
to be looked at as like a NEPO baby kind
of situation where Bill hired him. They want him to
be you know, they want to focus on his you know,
coaching ability and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
So those are the emails that she was on.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And doesn't she want him to take ownership of his catchphrases,
you know, like no days after your job, ignore the noise,
all those.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Next Bales version.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, but don't the Patriots own those they do?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Yeah, she's trying to do the Taylor Swift move and
trademark them with the slogan and then in parentheses Bills
version like Taylor.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And here's the deal all of this, you know what
we're talking about, all of the comversation we've had this
morning about Jordan. You need to keep in mind, this
is what Jordan wants. Okay, So she's not going to
get mad at us. We're doing exactly what she wants
us to do. She wants to be talked about.
Speaker 10 (17:12):
Well, the reason why I agree with Bill is because
the behind my scenes stuff is one thing. But being
out publicly on the field with a snake skin jacket
down to your boots, yea boot high knee boots.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Could you describe those again?
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Walking around like Crowsville.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's the honest thing.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
A beautiful outfit, powder blue, but You're right, it just
wasn't It didn't fit the activity.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Again, yes, yeah, but if she weren't dressed like that
in high heels, by the way, on the football field,
if she weren't dressed like that, we wouldn't be talking
about her as much. It was such a misfit, that's
the activity.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
She looked like she was going out for the evening.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, she could have wore leggings and a good
workout shirt. And I like, it's what an odd that
she was down there because Bill has been married in
long term relations before and you've never seen his wife
or girlfriend at anything football really outside of a game watching.
So that was enough, right, Then you add in the
outfit that could be on a runway at you know, fashion.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
With Yeah, she was wearing the high.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Now keep in mind this is another development. Okay, keep
in mind that the Gronk Beach event is this coming
Sunday night in Vegas. Now, he knows Belichick is busy
with UNC football, right, but there's an open invite for
Bill and for Jordan Donch.
Speaker 15 (18:46):
Belichick has an invite to any of my events.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Or parties that I ever have in the rest of
my life.
Speaker 15 (18:54):
And I'm pretty sure that he's pretty busy right now
being the head coach you know, at North Caro, but
he wants to come. He will have full VP, him
and his lovely girl, and they'll get as many drinks
as they would like, and they will never have to
pay for.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
A thing you want. My prediction, Jordan is going alone,
you know what?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And she she could be because I'm sure she would
love to hang out with Camille Ron's girlfriend and have
that sort of girl time.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Well, what should do it for the ground? What is
she gonna wear? Boot? Hi me boots.
Speaker 10 (19:27):
I'm so glad that I turned on my radio just
now for this topic.
Speaker 11 (19:32):
This girl is on another planet. She wants Taylor's Spas's
attentions so hard. I'm embarrassed for her. Girl, take it
down a notch.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We all see you.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
It's so true.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah, listen, she was we talked about her. She was
insulted by some comments that were made about cheerleading. Yeah,
but she didn't really seem to care about anything we
said about her and Bill that was she was not
concerned about that. I did talk to her on the phone,
but she did promise to come on this show and
then she blew us off. I had a long conversation
where her she was super nice when she promised to
come on, and then she blew us off.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So yeah, yeah, I didn't blame her for getting mad
when Winnie bashed her for cheerleaders. Okay, but this thing,
I don't know. On the sidelines, and by the way,
it's early in the season. On the sidelines giving orders
and wearing a whistle and dressed like he's going to
a gala. It just hit me. I'm like, Okay, someone
(20:27):
needs to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It just didn't fit the activity. Again, if she had
been in leggings and you know, a cute little T shirt,
she still could have looked so cute.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
But never would fly to an NFL team, No, oh no.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Never, never.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Oh my god. You talk about Bill Belichick being he whipped,
and Billy Costa is terrified to say anything bad about
Jordan because he thinks she'll come after him.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
That's awesome, Billy, I love you. Oh yeah, she would
kick your.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Butt if she were to come after me. I wouldn't
know what to.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Say, Like it's but it's funny, like you're like, you're fearful.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, Ki, Yeah, she would they're very nice boots.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
By the way, I loved loved her.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, it was attractive.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It was. The other buzz story is Gail King and
the rest of the the Blue Origin crew still taking
heat for that flight the other night on the rocket
or the other day on the rocket. So many celebrities,
by the way, females have come out against it, Amy
Schumer being one of them. And here's some of what
Amy said.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
Guys, last second, they added me to space, and I'm
going to space.
Speaker 16 (21:46):
I'm bringing this thing.
Speaker 12 (21:51):
It has no meaning to me, but it was in
my bag and I was like on the subway and
I got the text and they were like, do you
want to go to space? So I'm going to space
and thank you to everyone who got me here, and
I'll see you guys in space.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And Gail King actually responded, I really resent that people
are calling it a rye.
Speaker 10 (22:15):
We duplicated the trajectory of Alan Shepherd's flight.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Back in the day.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
No one called that a ride. A ride sounds frivolous,
it sounds insignificant.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
This was a going to fide flight.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So you know, I say, have you been to space?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Have you seen what Blue Origin does to.
Speaker 10 (22:32):
Get these machines up, get them up, and get them
down with the precision that they do.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm sorry, there are haters. There's always going to be here.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Are you surprised that she responded like that about the haters?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
First of all, Alan Shepherd's mission was a very very
long time ago. It was a big deal. It was
when Alan Shepherd went to the entrance of space, so
to speak. Look this, you know, it was an amusement ride,
let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But I do have to say we all watched it
together and we were mesmerized by the precision and by
the power of what that was. So you know, I
can see both sides like going into space and that
that's important.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So okay, it was a spectator event, but it didn't
change womankind.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Well again, we've talked about like what was where they
take Where is there data from this trip? Like what
have they taken from it to learn more about space trips?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
This is the thing.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
This was a personal experience for all six women in there,
which is great. They're enlightened. But the people that made
the flight work are scientists on the ground.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, RCT.
Speaker 10 (23:37):
It's basically like going to six Flags or cap like
and being strapped in and the operator pushing the button
and then you taking credit for the roller coaster ride.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, there was no research, you know what I mean
on this trip.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It was it's for space tourism exactly, and that none
of us can ever afford.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Right, That's the.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Thing very few people will.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Olivia mund called it, say gluttonous, Yeah, it's a good
word for and.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Didn't pay for it.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Jeff Basil paid for it as a so his girlfriend
could take her friends up for a little ride.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Which you're referring to. What was there were her friends
and they were He didn't mean her brast.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I meant like Katie Perry friends.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well yeah, I meant like, you know, her girlfriend. Because
the other friends went up in Great Pari, you know,
I mean, anything happened.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Maybe that's what they were studying.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
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Speaker 1 (25:18):
Hey, guys, so welcome back. It is, in fact, the
Billy and Lisa Morning Show. Everybody's paying attention to the
Karen Reid retrial. Apparently finally they have seated a jury
and the opening statements will come early next week. So
we thought it'd be a good time to check in
with our official legal expert to Catherine Loftus. Katherine, you there,
I'm here, Good morning, guys. Morning Katherine. I gotta ask
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a stupid question, okay, although it may not be that stupid. Okay. So,
you know they agonize about seating the jury, and I
know it's agonizing for both the prosecutors and the defense,
and they ask all these questions of the potential jurors.
My stupid question, Katherine, is what's just top potential jurors
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from lying?
Speaker 9 (26:03):
There really is an Unfortunately, the system that we work
on in the jury system, ability.
Speaker 11 (26:08):
Is the honor system. And what the difficult part is
was a case like this, you.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
Know the amount of publicity the number of people on
both sides who you know, there is the potential of
sneaking on not being honest on the question he as
that were given to all the jurors. The hope is
that that is vetted out, you know, through the Vuadia process,
which is when the individual jurors are questioned at sidebar
(26:35):
with Judge Canoni as well as the defense and the Commonwealth.
They all were allowed to research the jurors once they've
been sad. So the hope is that if there was
anybody that was not being truthful or you.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
Know, left some things out, that they caught that.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
But ultimately it does come down to the to really
holding people to account and hoping that people trust and
respect in the jury system enough to be honest about
their feelings.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But when you say research the jurors, what do you mean?
Do they scan their social media accounts? What do they do?
Speaker 11 (27:07):
That's right?
Speaker 9 (27:08):
So normally this isn't something that's allowed, but because of
the level of publicity surrounding this case, what the parties
were allowed to do was to take the juror information
at the end of the day. Normally you have to
return the jury questionings and the list of journeyings are
not kept within the purview of the defense or the Commonwealth.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
That goes back to the court and to the clerk.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
They were allowed to take that information essentially home, and
after the jurors were sad, they were allowed to you know,
look through their social media, online presence, anything like that.
We actually lost I believe the total was forgers throughout
the process. So after they had been static gone through Vadia,
they were removed. Now, we have not been advised by
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the court whether that was as a result of, you know,
some discrepancies or you know, something that.
Speaker 11 (27:56):
Was found later to be untruthful.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
That hasn't been released by the court as to the
basis that those jurors were taken off the jury, but
one can surmise that there might have been at least
a couple that that happened with Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
So the trial will start with opening arguments on Tuesday,
and they're saying that Hank Brennan is going to go
right out of the gate with a lot of these
interviews that Karen Reid has done recently. How much damage
do you think they could potentially do to her?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Well, I think it's what the komal The goal of
opening statements is to really present the layout of the
case to the jury, and in this instance, it's not
only to the jury, it's to the public as a whole.
So the goal for both the Komwalth and the defense
is to basically put the best foot forward. And what
I think Attorney Brennan believes is that the statements that
Karen Reid has made from the time of this incident
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on January twenty eighth and twenty ninth, through.
Speaker 11 (28:50):
The tendency of the first trial and in.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
Interviews with the media afterwards, actually show a sort of
an inconsistent pattern and a changing set of events from
her perspective, which he's going to argue that lends itself
to this idea of consciousness of guilts, that she's changing
her story. With each media interview, you see a few
more details added that are largely self serving, and I
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think that they believe that that's one of the stronger pieces
of their case.
Speaker 13 (29:19):
Now.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
During the first trial, Adam Lelly did not present any
of the statements that were made by Karen read two
different media outlets, and I think it's going to be
the exact opposite this way, Like you said, he's coming
right out the gate and going to be using not
only the statements, but it sounds like he's actually going
to be playing them either via audio or video in
his opening.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So, as the official legal expert of the Billy and
Lisa Morning Show the TV interviews, do you think they
helped or hurt her?
Speaker 11 (29:47):
I think they hurt her ultimately.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
In the issue really is is that you know, when
we say anything you say, cannon will be used against
you in a court of law. You know, even when
you believe you're in you you know, it's you say
you're innocent, your attorneys believe you're innocent. The problem with
speaking is that even if you believe you're doing so
in good faith, the government has the right to use
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those statements and they can use them in any way
they want. And so if they believe that they can
present those statements in a way that's not beneficial to you,
ultimately it's going to harm. So it's a really kind
of interesting analysis about, you know, what the effects those
statements will have and whether that was a good idea
for them to allow her to do that.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Wow, this just gets more and more interesting. Now. The
former juror who is now a lawyer for the read team.
Does she have a specialty.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
I don't believe so. My understanding is that she practiced
for maybe a year or two prior to sitting on
the jury in this case, with a background in labor
and employment law.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
She's employed now with.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
David Ynetti's office, so it appears, at least from you know,
my research, that this is her first criminal case.
Speaker 11 (31:01):
I think what she adds to the case really was.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
Ultimately about the jury process and you know, who to pick,
and maybe the perspective that she had as somebody who
sat through it. But in terms of you know, whether
she's going to be taking any witnesses or making any arguments,
I think that's pretty unlikely.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Now, the crowds outside the courthouse, you think there'll be
more people this time around or less.
Speaker 11 (31:24):
I think they'll probably be less.
Speaker 9 (31:25):
The buffer zone has been expanded past the two hundred
feet that it.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Was set for trial number one.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
There's actually an appeal relative to that buffer zone pendon
in federal court right now, so it could be potentially
made smaller. But I think given the fact that the
protesters or supporters are basically required to be a decent
amount of way from the courthouse, is probably going to
lessen the amount of people that actually come because they're
(31:53):
not going to have much interaction, you know, with the
Red Team or Karen Reid herself as she walked through
a little bit different than last.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Time, Catherine, there's court in session for other things right
at Deadham District Court, So like, how are people just
going to go and have their case heard?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Er if you're on a different jury, what.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Is that like?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Right?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
It is?
Speaker 11 (32:15):
It's difficult. So it is still a working courthouse.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
It's you know, Norfolk Superior, so they handled not only criminal.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
Cases but civil cases. There's a docket.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
You know, there's probably dozens of cases each day, platists, defendants,
attorneys who have to come in and out.
Speaker 11 (32:29):
So obviously it.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Creates a burden for many of the people in the
community as well. The Deadham Neighborhood Association submitted a letter
to the court asking for the buffer zone to be
expanded because it had interrupted their business last time.
Speaker 11 (32:43):
So it's certainly a burden not only on the people who.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Are coming into the court for other matters, but on
the community itself. But ultimately, you know, there's a sort
of the balancing of interests and that people have a
right to protest, and the jury also has a right
to be free from any intrusion of those protests onto
their deliberations, so it kind of have a middle ground.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
As we say.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Now, a couple of weeks ago, somebody said something to
me and I thought, there's no way that's possible that
the judge what's her name, she's the godmother of one
of the family members on the prosecution side.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
I have not heard that before, Billy, but I would
venture to guess that that is untrue. I would imagine
if there was any substance to that, you would have
heard it in court and as a basis for for
her recusal.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, I would, Yeah, I would major you would think, so, yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
And that you know, And that's the difficult part with
this case is that there's so much information out there,
and some of it has you know, morssels of truth
to it, and a lot of it doesn't at all.
But it's difficult sometimes for people to discern, you know,
what's what's true and what's not.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
So that's what makes this case really interesting.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
It's you know, it's the analysis of how a trial
is perceived, you know, in the public eye through social
media and you know, deciphering you know, what's true and
what's not.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I will say this Judge Canoni seems to have complete
control of that court room.
Speaker 11 (34:16):
Well, you know, it's it's difficult.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
I know that there is a lot of critique of
the judge in this case, and quite frankly, I don't
know that there would be any less critique if there
was any other judge. There's a lot of eyes on
the case, and there's a lot of decisions that have been.
Speaker 11 (34:32):
Made that are you know, counter to what sort of
the public perception is.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Really from a legal perspective, she's pretty on points. She's
been upheld you know, by various appellate courts on multiple
appellate issues.
Speaker 11 (34:48):
So as much as.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
People may not like it, I think she is doing
a decent job of controlling the court.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, I guess that was my point. It was like,
given the fact that there have been some weird decisions
made during the course of the trial, she at least
has control of the courtroom.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
That appears well she's trying.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
And I think that's what you know said in the
buffer zone set in the rules right on the front end.
You know, ultimately we have you know a number of
different things going on. We have everybody paying attention not
only on the local level media, but now nationally. And
then we have you know, the families of both Karen
Reid and John o'keef. So you know, she's really her
(35:29):
job is to make sure everything runs as efficiently as possible,
and it's certainly not an easy job, and I don't
envy her position.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
All right.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Opening statements on Tuesday, Catherine, thank you so much. Thank
you for getting up early for us.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, we're all over it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I can't wait all over all right.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
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Yeah, hello, I know, is this thing on?
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All right?
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This is our first time going and very excited for it.
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a shopping track. We don't even go to museums, staying
like the sixth er and D's mom. That's like a
fun walking you can walk everywhere. Yeah, there's like a
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She just DMS me I can give her our whole itinerary.
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All right, right, yeah, coming up next, we will wrap
up the show. We do the wrap up at nine
every morning. I'll tell you what you missed. We had
a couple of guests, Catherine Loftus talk about Karen Reid.
Also Bob Scanal from the Boys and Girls Club. Big
event happening tomorrow. Anyway, we'll cover it all, all your
talkbacks in the wrap.
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Well, we're on a good role trying to give away
this car. Yes, we are giving away a brand new car,
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Right now, I am My car actually died. So I
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Yeah, Well gifts don't last, you know, whoever gave the
gift needs the car back eventually. Now she may have
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We had a good topic time this morning, your weirdest
or worst fears. We gave our own and our listeners
did too, so many good ones.
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So this isn't my greatest fear, but it's definitely my weirdest.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
But I do have armful of phobia, which unfortunately is
secure belly buddies.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Oh I've never heard of that.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I'mlaphobia.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
So every okay, must be hard for her in the
summer and at the beach, afraid of like probably like
zones she can't even go to.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
Is she afraid of her own belly button?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Like afraid?
Speaker 10 (41:10):
Well, well, the unknown is in there could be. I
mean it's an interesting it's a bacteria.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Looking thing if you really think about it.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, you would think by now they would have come
up with like a neater procedure. My grandmother the cord.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
My grandmother lost hers What.
Speaker 10 (41:29):
Do you mean she lost She had thirteen kids and
they got it was gone.
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She lost her belly button after having thirteen kids.
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I don't know what.
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Too many cords were cut.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, connection, that's her fear, you know, that's what it.
Also this morning, we had Bob skinnal on from the
Boys and Girls Club of Dorchester. They're breaking ground on
a brand new facility tomorrow. Bob was super cool.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
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square feet. It is everything a child could hope and
dream for. And we just can't wait to break ground
and then eventually cut the ribbon late twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Yeah, the Boys and Girls Club of Dorchester are teaming
up with the Martin Richard Foundation. Yeah, it's going to
be a big event tomorrow. So thank you Bob for
calling in. Also, we had Katherine Loftus on the Karen
Reid trial. Eighteen jurors they sat, Yes, they went through
almost six hundred people to seat eighteen. The trial starts Tuesday.
And Katn Loftus, who's our legal expert, says that she
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thinks the interviews that Karen Reed did.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Is going to hurt her.
Speaker 9 (42:41):
Even when you believe you're innocent. You know, if you
say you're innocent, your attorneys believe you're innocent. The problem
with speaking is that even if you believe you're doing
so in good faith, the government has the right to
use those statements and they can use them in any
way they want.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
And Hank Brennan's going tow Yeah, so that'll start next week.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
We'll have and loft Us on as we usually do,
to break it all down and finally have a quick
shout out, Okay, can I do this?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (43:06):
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There's a comedy show fundraiser and raffle Let's put on
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