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March 22, 2025 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good Morning, Happy Saturday. It's producer Riley in for Justin.
I know you don't normally hear my voice unless you're
calling into the show, but the morning show is taking
a much needed vacation, so you get me on this
beautiful Saturday. And speaking of their vacation, Justin was in
New Jersey. But before he went, he was telling us
about how he was very, very nervous. And this was

(00:20):
a great segment because even when we played it back
I was getting calls and talkbacks. Still, this is number five, A.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Little behind the scenes the Billy and Lisa Morning Show.
You know, there's what's on the air, and then there's
what's off the air, behind the scenes, in the studio whatever.
And we have a vacation coming up soon, and you know,
everybody makes plans for their vacations and for some reason,
and this is strange to me, but Justin, who grew
up in the streets of Maldon, don't mind telling you

(00:50):
spend time in several prisons. You know he's been around,
has some sort of a tremendous fear of a mall
in New Jersey. And I can't figure out what's your concerned?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Is no, no, no, this is when he's when he's uh,
when he's you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Her creation, This is her creation, ye several times.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
We were looking for a vacation for our kids. My
wife suggested the American Dream Mall, which I didn't know
this at the time, but it's a beautiful place in Jersey.
I mean they have it's a Nickelodeon mall. They your
ski resort. Kim Kardashian goes there every year at North's
birthday party last.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Year, So why are you so afraid to go?

Speaker 6 (01:29):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
No, it's not the mall. It's the hotel.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
The hotel is in because we booked a hotel without
checking out the area, so I wasn't sure. Now, mind you,
if it was just me, I don't I don't care.
But I have small kids. My daughter's two years old,
and I want to bring my kids on a vacation
and have them being the kind of a sketchy spot,
that's all.

Speaker 7 (01:47):
Can I ask you what the hotel is?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's I think it's like a Marriot, man, it's easy.

Speaker 7 (01:53):
Yes, that's where stadium is.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Right, that's where the Jets play, right, right?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
So do you think you're going to be taking or something?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
No, I mean I could protect my family. I'm not
worried about that. I just don't want the vacation to
be like ruined by anything that could happen.

Speaker 8 (02:09):
Well, I want to help you out.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
It's nervous about I don't think you are. I don't
think you are.

Speaker 9 (02:16):
So I looked it up on crimerey dot org. Right
helps rate crime. Now. The thing about East Weather it
it's a small borrow, so it only has about ten
thousand residents. So this is based off every thousand people.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Okay, what's it say?

Speaker 8 (02:27):
So for every.

Speaker 9 (02:28):
Thousand people when it comes to a crime, for a
violent crime, for every thousand people, there's one point eight
nine assaults, so left than two assaults for every thousand people.
With robbery it's point two eight.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
So ai I put it in the overview says that
it's generally considered a safe destination.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Oh, because I'm getting different reports here.

Speaker 9 (02:48):
Okay, justin, I looked up the safety rating for East
Brother for New Jersey.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
It is a D minus.

Speaker 8 (02:55):
There is a crime every sixteen hours and twenty two minutes.

Speaker 10 (02:58):
However, I don't know how those crimes necessarily.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, they could be simple crimes.

Speaker 9 (03:03):
So she's on the same thing as I am. She
has to look deeper into it. It's a lot of
property crime, which you don't have property.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
You have to worry about that.

Speaker 8 (03:09):
Yeah, nothing like if you're talking about crime, but.

Speaker 7 (03:12):
If there's if Mettlife Stadium is there again, AI is
telling me that petty crimes like pickpocketing and perse snatching.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Do a pickpocketers that much?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
You really don't, you'd be surprised.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, just Steve the pharmacist here East Rutherford, that's where
the Jets play.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
No, there's no way there can be a good area.

Speaker 10 (03:31):
Nothing happy ever happens there.

Speaker 9 (03:35):
Get like vandalisms high up there, with five for every hundred,
for every thousand people graffiti.

Speaker 11 (03:40):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't be fine, It's just I don't it's the
big vacation. I don't want my family to be in
any danger.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
Is there a pool at the hotel?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (03:49):
Yeah, all right, perfect.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
They're beautiful, like it's a whole, you know, double connecting
rooms and all that, so you can just stay in
the hotel.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, does the American Dream It says it right in
the name The American Dream on that website. Do they
recommend hotels in the area. Yeah, that's where we got it.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you know, but then I kind of wasn't sure,
and I booked it, and then I was looking after
where after.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
And I kind of was like, is that a good area?
I don't know, And I started to get little nervous,
what with.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Guys just about going into Jersey just to take off
the pandyho you'll be fun.

Speaker 9 (04:21):
Exactly exactly, it's I mean, it's it's literally really weird.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Optics for me.

Speaker 10 (04:27):
Yeah, well, because you came from the streets.

Speaker 9 (04:30):
It's different when you have right, I understand the family thing,
but these are not like any crimes that wouldn't happen
anywhere else.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
Right, you're not going to skid row.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I agree. My thing is is they're not worried or concern.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I think it's just me as a father and a husband,
like I'm taking my family on this vacation.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I want them.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I want to arrive and then get out of the
car and be like, wow, this is I think they're like, damn,
we got to go in the hotel quick.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, they may present you with an opportunity to save
your family, and nothing's hotter than go to bed.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
I think I've driven past this Marriott, I like because
I'm from Pennsylvania, so I feel like I've driven around
there enough. I think you're gonna be. It's gonna You're
gonna have a good time, a lot to do.

Speaker 9 (05:11):
Regardless of what happens. You're going to East Rutherford, New Jersey.
No one's gonna step up and make dad thanks for
taking me to Magic Land like it's New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Like I don't know, you know what I mean. Like
they're gonna be.

Speaker 8 (05:23):
I know, that's what I'm saying. Don't worry about the Marriot.
You're saying they're gonna love the mall.

Speaker 10 (05:28):
I love the Marriott, me too.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
By boy, why don't you get.

Speaker 10 (05:33):
An RV in park right in the American Dream Mall
parking lot.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
No, I'm not sleeping on the street, a nice RV.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
You get a nice leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Good morning. It's producer Riley and for Justin on this Saturday,
and this was a great moment. We had Jeff Benedict
call into the show because he is going to be
doing Lisa's book Club on April second. He is the
author of The Dynasty, which got turned into the Apple
TV documentary, and he answered every single question that we
needed answers to.

Speaker 10 (06:04):
This is number four, Jeff.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
We as a group here we would come in and
watch the docuseries The Dynasty on Apple TV, and then
we would come in and just talk about it.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Right, Yeah, because there were so many parts that just
gave us so many questions.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
And I got a lot of chills.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
During the docu series justin you want to play a
clip from the Brady Revenge Tour that.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Season, It was like a song from Taylor Swift. He
was like, look what you made me do?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
It was an fa year.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Fakamal Baby said that for a long time pulling for
us anyway.

Speaker 10 (06:46):
Great drove first logan.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Touchdown.

Speaker 11 (06:55):
This Doe is on another level to begin with, I'll
scare his hell right now.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
You could tell he was angry in real life.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
The King is back here he goes, watch him get
pissed off and go, Jeff, do you still get the
chills when you watch or hear some of this?

Speaker 12 (07:20):
Yeah? Actually I do. I mean. One of the things
that for me at least, that was really satisfying and
fun about making the documentary that was different than the
book is that we got to use music like we
used Taylor Swift, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Freddie Mercury
as a way to really bring emotion and power some

(07:40):
of the scenes in the film. That it's obviously a
very different medium than the book. The book will always
be probably the thing I love the most because I
spent a few years with the Patriots team writing that
book while Tom was in his final two seasons in
New England. By the time we made the documentary, Tom
was gone and things were different. But it was just

(08:01):
an opportunity to do something on television that you can't
do on the page.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
One of the things that we talked about a lot
when we were watching it was that it seemed like
it was a little harsh on Belichick. Would you agree
with that?

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Not really?

Speaker 12 (08:17):
I mean I think I actually thought we were pretty
soft on Bill. I think what's jarring for people though,
and the reason I understand why some people think that,
and that's a feeling that's actually pretty limited to New
England and particularly like hardcore Pats fans, but is that

(08:38):
you're seeing Bill on television in an environment that you
never see him in before. Bill doesn't really do interviews.
He does press conferences and he kind of has a
stick that he does in a press conference. In this situation,
he was in a very foreign environment. He's sitting in
an interview chair being asked questions that he's really never
had to deal with before, and so he looked, looks

(09:00):
very stiff, he looks uncomfortable, And the fact is he
was stiff and uncomfortable in that environment. But I think
if you look at the series in its totality, what
you do see is you see who Bill is. He
was a very tough, taciturned successful football coach who had
a huge part in why the Patriots were so dominant

(09:21):
for twenty years. And then you contrast that with Tom,
who's kind of the other half of that equation, and
their personalities are very different, but the way they came
together it's pretty remarkable what they achieved. But I mean, look,
you're seeing Bill as Bill in the series.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
So did you get calls or email or text from
Bill or from Robert or from Tom the first time
they saw the docuseriies, no, not, I.

Speaker 12 (09:50):
Mean I would never.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
I mean.

Speaker 12 (09:54):
I definitely heard a lot. Well, you know, look, you
get to know people as you I was in thing
for five or six years, right, I mean I worked
on these two things back to back. I went from
the book to the series, so like five or six
years of my life was invested in telling the dynasty
story in two different mediums. And you get to know
people pretty well and the organization well. And I feel

(10:17):
like I know that organization really well and the people
who are in it, and have a tremendous amount of
respect for everything that was done there, starting with the
crafts and how they built it and sustained it over
that twenty years. It's a remarkable run. By the way,
no team is going to catch them. The Chiefs, in
my opinion, at least, had very little chance of ever

(10:39):
replicating what the Patriots did.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Now, the Aaron Hernandez chapter must have been a difficult
for you to navigate.

Speaker 12 (10:50):
I mean, as a storyteller, it really wasn't that hard.
Look a ton has been written and said about that case.
And the nice thing is I wasn't writing a book
about Aaron Hernandoz, nor would I want to. It's a
pretty depressing subject. However, if you're going to write a
definitive history of the Patriots dynasty over a twenty year period,
you can't just kind of skip over that, like it

(11:11):
didn't happen. It's a part of the dynasty that actually
happens right in the middle of the two Super Bowl runs,
the first run in the early two thousands and then
the back end run in the late twenty teens. Hernande
sits right in the middle of that, and that's kind
of a little bit of a dark spot. And so
I mean, I covered it in the book over like

(11:33):
a couple of chapters in the series. We dealt with
that whole thing within one episode.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Good Morning, Happy Saturday. It's pretty sir, Riley, and for
Justin counting down the top five moments on this beautiful
Saturday morning. If you guys don't recognize my voice, that's
because you either haven't called into the show and talk
to me on the phone, or.

Speaker 11 (11:51):
Because you don't know that.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I'm just behind the scenes helping Justin out with everything
that I can. And sometimes they land on a topic
that I really want to contribute to, but I just
and this was one of them. A movie or TV
show that's really changed you. Mine Real Quick was the
bold type, amazing show with amazing, strong women. But this
was another topic time, So let's hear from everybody else.

Speaker 10 (12:12):
Number three let's go to Katie.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
She's in debt him. Katie, what have you got for us?

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Go Hi?

Speaker 8 (12:18):
The Exorcist.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
I saw it in middle school and it absolutely traumatize
me still to this day.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
There's a lot of things from that movie that are
messing with my head.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, that's a good one, The Exorcist. I think a
lot of us had the same reaction to that movie.
You know another one, Jaws. Jaws affected a lot of
people going into the ocean.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah, for years.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Absolutely, Jaws had so many people scared that they wouldn't
go in pools. Like when I was a kid, I
wouldn't go on the deep end of the pool because
I really Jaws would.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
You thought there'd be a great white in there.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
We just didn't know what underneath.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
You know, when you're swimming and you can't touch the ground,
you think a shock's going to come get you.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Absolutely, I'm just.

Speaker 10 (12:56):
Saying, good morning, everybody.

Speaker 13 (12:57):
So a movie that touched me was The Shack. So touching,
so like spiritual, and it did change my life and
it gave me a new perspective on how to forgive.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Shrek or the show called The Shack came out in
twenty seventeen, Tim McGraw, Octavia Spencer, Sam Worthington.

Speaker 10 (13:21):
I'll have to watch that.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Tim McCraw is a better actor than people give him
credit for.

Speaker 10 (13:25):
He is a really good actor.

Speaker 8 (13:26):
Remember he was in The blind Side. Yes, played Bill's husband.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Yes, that was good.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
He was Yeah, he's good.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
My so called life totally made me feel so understood.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, I remember that show in the nineties, Claire Danes. Yep,
in Jared Letto. That's where Jared Leto got the start
was in My so called life.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Going back to Tim McGraw, I couldn't help but notice
he was in Four Christmases as one of the Crazy brothers,
and he was like fifty sixty pounds heavier.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
Oh yeah, he went through a complete transfer four Christmases.

Speaker 10 (13:59):
Yeah, he stopped.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
He stopped drinking. When he tours, he has a whole
gym that tours with him.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
He's he's I bet I've watched a bunch of his
movies and never knew it was really.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, he's on tour. You said, he brings the gym
and he's on tour. He also does all the steps
of the arena. Wow, Yeah, he's crazy.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
You know who else does that. Mick Jagger.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
He travels with two big trailers everywhere. He goes all
the shows with two gyms in the trailers, and he
works out every single day.

Speaker 7 (14:28):
Mick Jagger, he still hops around the stage like he's
in his sixties.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
I think he's the original stage hopper.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
I think.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
So the movie Boondocks Saints changed my life.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
The way that those two guys protect each other.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I'll always protect my brother the same way.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Oh that's a good watch, Bill, really good Boondocks Saints.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
And what was the one about Brothers with Mark Wahlberg.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Oh no, no, no, I know Brothers.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
That was a good one.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yea when the mother gets killed.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
Yes, all the foster the foster kids.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 14 (15:04):
Good morning. I tried to come out when I was
eighteen years old, but this was at the height of
the age crisis. I met with a psychiatrist who told
me that I was not gay, that it was a choice.
So I ended up marrying a woman. My best friend
and I watched The Ellen Show in nineteen ninety seven
and knew I had to come out at that time,

(15:27):
and so I did and rest is history.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
So that was the most impactful one.

Speaker 13 (15:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Wow, that was the first right to came on TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
she was the first one was canceled that.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yes, she had a TV sitcom.

Speaker 10 (15:43):
Let's go to Mike from Aubury. Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
What have we got August to Rush to the kids
into music?

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Oh my gosh, what's it.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Called August Rush? August Rush? Who's in it?

Speaker 11 (15:55):
Do we know?

Speaker 7 (15:58):
He's in the New Googie? I was a movie.

Speaker 11 (16:00):
Now I don't know what his name was, but it
also had the girl from Felicity in it.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Oh, Kerry what was her name?

Speaker 10 (16:08):
Carry something? Yes, carry Russell? Yes, Robin Williams.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Okay, all right, good, all right, thank you. Another good call,
another good listener.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
And you got a talkbackestion I have about an you
can't keep up.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
It's hard to keep it. It's like all we do
is tell people to leave talkbacks. They leave them talkbacks
more than they call It's crazy.

Speaker 13 (16:28):
But yeah, so many they get to a show that
has absolutely changed my life is because people are not
to like it.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, I know, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
By the way, episode three drops Today on Apple TV
just became the most watched television show in all of
Apple TV history.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yeah, but again, you can't judge people.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
If not judging, watch it not judging only Winnie.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, because Winnie has never seen it, gave it
a shot and then craps all over it.

Speaker 8 (17:00):
Would you prefer I watched White Loadus first?

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Oh, that's great, that's great. Either both are great.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Episode two White Lotus Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, both watch White Lotus. Okay, it is.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
It's totally over.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
This number two moment never fails to make me laugh. Hey,
it's pretty ser Riley. I'm in for Justin on this Saturday.
I don't think I'll ever forget Billy Costa saying the
words scrow them up. If you haven't heard this one,
I'm just gonna let him get into it.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
So Michelle was kind enough yesterday, My wife, Michelle was
kind enough to make me an appointment for a foot massage, okay,
because I've had trouble with my achilles. Yeah, and you know,
I think it's healed to some.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Degree, but it's still very stiff. And I thought maybe
a good massage on that part of the leg and
the ankle, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
And ironically, I was on the phone with Bill yesterday
and he was like, lease, guess where I'm going right now.
I'm going to get a like massage.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
I was like, that sounds amazing.

Speaker 10 (17:57):
And my first reaction was, you know what, lease, I'm
gonna get you a gift card.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, that's what he said.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Okay, that's how we left it. Then I went and
this is where the story begins. Interestingly, we booked a
foot massage, both of us, because of course Michelle decided
she wanted one too, So she went first and I
walk the dog down to the place and she comes out,
took the dog and I go in, and on her
way in she said, Okay, it was a great massage,

(18:26):
but just so you know, you got to be ready
to completely be completely naked.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
And I'm like, okay, I mean that's not that's not
that's not super alarming.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
No, well, I'm always naked, but there's a blanket over me.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah, they cover you up, Yeah, for your foot only.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well no, that's one of the points I'm trying to make,
and I'll get to it. So I get in there,
and you know, they bring me into the room and
you know, I undress and get under the blanket on
the bed with my face down, and.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
The woman immediately walked in and she was very nice.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Was she younger, older, younger than you would expect. Thirties?

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah, yeah, maybe mid thirties.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Anyway, massage, yes it was. I just dont want to
get too specific. But she walked into the room and
you know what the room, it's pretty dark and not
that dark. You know, they have mid lighting, mood mood lighting,
very good. And she immediately ripped the cover off. So
now I'm naked, face down.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Okay, okay, so wait, hold on, Bill, you didn't wear underwear? Yeah,
he's but naked.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Oh no, I never do you have to.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
Wear underwear to these places?

Speaker 10 (19:40):
Thank you for bringing that up. And I'm going to
tell you why in this case I should have.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Long go off now, Bill.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
At this point I thought it was a little unusual.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
And the very first thing she did after ripping the
cover off, right, she leapt onto the chamber knees first.

Speaker 10 (19:59):
It was a massage, and started massaging.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
But he asked for a foot massage the whole point.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
And now she's she's knees on, oh yeah, completely naked,
and you.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Know, I couldn't really understand what I was saying. But
the first thing she said is but I think this
is what she said. She said, would you like oil?
And who wouldn't you know that.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
Hell wouldn't like And you were so non confrontational, Oh yeah,
you probably couldn't say anything like, well, wait a second,
this isn't what I came for.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
I'd agree to anything.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Because now I'm naked, and now she's oiling me down
right and she's on top of you. Ah yes, and
she's like pounding me and it was nice. And then
and then she got off the table and off me
and went around to the front and I'm still face
down and now she's facing me like on it, like yeah,
she's got her knees on the table next to my

(20:58):
ears and she's rubbing and and I'm talking right down
and across my buttock like so yeah, so the full yeah,
oh yeah, and you know, like she was getting seemed
to be getting closer and closer into the red zone
little hair there exactly.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
But whilst she's doing this right picture again, she's on
her knees by my ears and massaging down and as
she does, she's humping the top of my head.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
It's her is her?

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Like so what was above your head?

Speaker 12 (21:33):
Like her?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Her crotch and it kept oh so as She's lunging
forward with her hands, her crotches hitting my forehead and
like anyone okay now in another zone was.

Speaker 10 (21:53):
No no hold on now yeah?

Speaker 7 (21:56):
So so and what are you are you like grunting.

Speaker 10 (22:00):
Perfectly quiet.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
No, I'm not even moving a muscle like I am
fully giving myself dirt.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Now, he was excited Asian spial.

Speaker 10 (22:08):
Oh my, so, okay, you are getting nervous.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
I was starting to think.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
What's going on?

Speaker 10 (22:15):
But then she popped up from where she was her
vaginal area.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
I guess my forehead.

Speaker 10 (22:25):
She popped up and said half hap and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
What, that's the code. I didn't know what it was.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
And again I wasn't thinking codes. I just thought I
was getting a foot massage. By the way, they haven't
been touched yet. Okay, So she jumps up half hap
and I'm like, yeah, thinking she wanted me.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
To turn on.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
You were approving of the No, I didn't know.

Speaker 10 (22:51):
I'm still not sure hap hap could have meant and
I just didn't get it.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
It could have meant happy time, happy time. Yeah. So
again I'm ignorant to it all.

Speaker 10 (23:03):
I'm not I don't go to these places to be
taken care of. So so have happened.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm like, oh, turn over, And then I thought she meant, yes, turnover,
So now I turn over.

Speaker 10 (23:17):
And she left the room naked, completely left the room.
I'm buck naked now.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
And flapping scrowed them up, clopping, okay, just flapping her
und just jumping out.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
And so when she walks out, I didn't know what
she meant. I'm like, oh, it must be over right.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
So then I get up naked and go over to
the couch and grab start to grab something. And she
walked in and I just froze, and I'm like and
I'm like, oh, I think I did the wrong thing.
I thought it was a dungeon.

Speaker 10 (23:53):
No, no, no, And she came with a box of
hot towels. I don't know why I keep reaching down.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
She it was very sure.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I'm just remembering it best I can't, so con say
with the hotels, and I'm like, oh, I get back
on here.

Speaker 10 (24:08):
Yes, just coming in to grease me with the hot towels.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Good morning. It's producer Riley and for Justin counting down
the top five moments of the week. And this is
actually a special one because this moment is from Lisa's
book Club that happened on Wednesday night with Charlottagne and
The God. We did not play this on the show
because we were doing Best of Us this week, so
this is a Saturday exclusive. The entire interview is up

(24:33):
on the Lisa's book Club podcast page as well, so
go check that out. If you want to hear the
whole thing. To join Lisa's book Club, you can go
to her Instagram Lisa Donovan one oh eight or the
kiss account, or you can always go to Kiss oneawait
dot com. Lisa welcomes new people to the book club
every day and again. Jeff Benedict is going to be
at Lisa's book Club on April second, So let's dive
into a little bit of this interview.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
The number one moment.

Speaker 11 (24:54):
Beautiful thing to see all these people gathered together to
talk about books exactly.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
And that is what I was actually just going to say.
Because you're known as the breakfast club host, like you're
you're a radio you're radio royalty basically, but you're here
for your book because you're an author, and it's a
more intimate experience, I think, and I'm so excited that
you're here and that you made time for us. Charlottage

(25:18):
was actually in Boston because he did the Meil Robins
podcast today.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
Yep, absolutely, yeah, Mel's dope.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know.

Speaker 11 (25:26):
It's so interesting because I had been venting, complaining about
some things over the last couple of weeks and my
wife was like, I'm going to get you this book.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
You're going to read this book this weekend, and it.

Speaker 11 (25:37):
Was let them by Mel Robins and I was like, oh,
I'm going to do her podcast on Wednesday.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
It was meant to be. I mean, we all read it.
We were with Mel about six weeks ago. It's transformative
and I'm so happy that your wife gave it to you.

Speaker 11 (25:50):
Oh yeah, I mean I've read Mel stuff before. I
read a High five Habit. We actually had our own
breakfast club back in twenty one, yeah, which she put
out the High five.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
Habit, Yeah, which we all follow to. So we're here
because we as a book club, which was formed about
three years ago. Now, we came together because we were
looking for big conversations. We wanted to meet new people,
we wanted to talk about things that are of interest
to us. And I think that's why we're all here

(26:19):
and that's why we all keep showing up for each other,
because we want big talk, not small talks, right, And
that's why we're here because this book is basically about that.
So can you define small talk and why it is
it annoys you so much?

Speaker 6 (26:32):
Because small talk is just complete bs.

Speaker 11 (26:34):
It's a time waster, right, Because you know I talk
about in the book, get honest to that line I
talk about you know, there's a thing called ig and
I'm not talking about Instagram.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
I'm talking about intention and goal.

Speaker 11 (26:44):
So when you approach somebody, you already know what the
intention of your conversation is and not nine times out
of ten you know what the goal you're trying to reach,
which said conversation basically you know what you want. So
don't come up to me talking about my sneakers or
you know, did you watch their Devil? Like come on, like,
you know what you want to get to, so let's
just get to it. I'm not ordering the appetize.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
I just want the entre I agree.

Speaker 8 (27:09):
And the water too.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
They always make so much time in the water course.
So morning shows, you have a morning show. I have
a morning show, Billy and Leaves in the morning, and
the breakfast club and thank you. And I have to
say we as we as morning shows, we are there
to entertain. We are there to be, you know, something

(27:32):
for people driving to the job that may may hate.
But but we also have a lot of small talk.
We do a lot of small talk just because that's
what we do. But in your book you said that
you for the past, you know, a couple of years,
you've been able to sort of take that small talk
and make it bigger. How have you been able to

(27:53):
do that?

Speaker 11 (27:54):
Well, what I've been telling folks is that you know,
we live in an era right now where we make
minors majors and make majors miners to the point that
we don't even know how to have big conversations anymore.
Like the things that we probably should be talking about,
you know, on a large scale, we don't. But then
you'll find yourself, you know, watching Instagram and wondering why

(28:17):
frogs you know, lick defeat of.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
Toads, just just something dumb, like like what like huh.

Speaker 11 (28:25):
So we spend a lot of time, especially you know,
via social media, just talking about things that really don't
have any importance. And I think we've actually lost the
ability to have large conversations like at least large conversations
to each other, you know, eye to eye, like we
when was the last time you actually had a conversation
and walked away saying yourself, Man, you know I actually

(28:45):
learned something from that conversation. I had a conversation that
you know, you sat down with somebody that you thought
you may not agree with, but then you walked away like, oh,
actually understood what that person was talking about. Like you know,
we we we we sit down and we listen with
the intend to reply re fiply all the time, and
we're replying with a bunch of nothing. But when the
last time you sat down and spoke to somebody with
the intent to actually understand? And I feel like that's

(29:06):
what the larger conversations do. So that's what the book is,
just giving people something bigger to talk about.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
I loved it.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
I took so many notes in your book and every
page of yes, I don't agree, I totally totally agree.
I want to take people back though, because a lot
of people don't realize that you growing up as in
a small town in South Carolina.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
I said that, like there's gonna be anybody in here
from there, but you.

Speaker 7 (29:32):
Know my parents live in bluffed In Yeah right by Hi.
It's great. I love I love South Carolina. But I
want people to understand who you were, a voracious reader
as a young boy. Who got you into read it?

Speaker 11 (29:48):
Oh my mom by far Oh my mom was an
English teacher for us and foremost so yeah, yeah, he
was an English teacher. And you know I grew up
on the book your program, you know say book a
program all day.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
You know, you got to read full books.

Speaker 11 (30:01):
You get a free pizza, little little personal paying pizza
from Pizza Hut, you know, and it's just like yo
on a Friday night when you growing up, you know,
and you know your parents ain't got the most money.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
Like that is everything.

Speaker 11 (30:11):
So I just used to read, you know, everything, And
my mom gave me the best piece of advice that
I carry on even past you know reading. She told
me read things that don't pertain to you. So I
was a young guy, like you know, sitting around, you know,
reading everything. But also when she said read things that
don't pertain to me, I started looking for whatever the
opposite of me was. So I'm a young black man

(30:34):
from South Carolina, damn. On a couple of these books.
It's all these little white girls.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Oh are you there?

Speaker 11 (30:40):
God, it's me Margaret. Who's just Judy Bloom person. Oh
she's got more books. Oh I love her books. I've
Judy Bloom beverly clearly. I used to run through, you know.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
So I'm glad that you mentioned Judy Blam because we
read are you their Goddess me Mariot. We did book
in a movie, so we read the book again, all
of us, and then we saw the movie.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
Movie was fantastic, very slept on it.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
Was, and Judy said that she liked it too. She
said they did a good job. I guess you guys
probably don't know that. Who has been your most favorite
interview of all time?

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Oh, Judy Bloom.

Speaker 11 (31:19):
Yeah, my father, because I used to I've always spoken
about Judy Bloom because you know, I'm real big on storytelling.
You asked me who got me in the you know, reading,
It was definitely my mother because she was an English
teacher and it was the book at program. But because
of that, I always read, and I always you know,
wrote stories. I just love storytelling. So I look at
Judy Bloom the same way I look at jay Z
Like they're just two fantastic storytellers. And so I've always

(31:44):
spoken about that, spoken about that throughout, you know, my
whole life. And so one Christmas, I just randomly get
two books in the mail and there was are you there, guy,
It's me Margaret the paperbacks and both of them were
signed by Judy Bloom One was for me, one was
for my oldest daughter. And I'm like, this, guy, this
is my team playing a trick on me, Like wow,
with Judy bloombe sending me her books.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
And then when the.

Speaker 11 (32:03):
Movie came out, she was in New York and she
asked to see me, and so I went to go
visit her in New York and her and her her
husband George, and her son Larry. And it's like since
then we've developed the actual real friendship. I don't been
down to Key West a couple of times, you know,
double dating me and my wife, her and her husband.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
I went, I went to go watch the premiere. Are
you there, God, it's me Margaret in Key West.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
With Judy, Like so you have like a real relationship
with her.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
I was, we was texting last week
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