September 8, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go. I am ready welcome to
a brand new week the After Show podcast, Winnie justin
Welcome back, Winnie. I was really hoping in a perfect world,
besides the secret sound, besides the VMA's, besides everything else
that happened over the weekend, the Patriots losing, that you
were going to have a run in with Jordan Hudson
at the baby shower and now no listen, and then
(00:22):
we would talk about it during the show, and then
on the after show you would give like the real scoop,
because that's what this is. But she was a no show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nope, she didn't come. I'd nasd soe because obviously that's
not important.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's about our baby.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
From what I knew, she was supposed to come. I
don't know. Because of the weather. She couldn't get up here.
It was pouring on Sunday. I don't know what happened.
I don't know that's true.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Because she was at the game, in UNC game Saturday night,
so she would have had to fly in. Maybe she
was gonna fly in Sunday morning. Who knows.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But how is the baby shower?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know, Daniel Direct obviously had me up. Oh, there's
such a sweet good couple. Food was good. They had
some games and I had I was. I got there
it was like eleven thirty. I left it like two.
That's when they were getting the presence going. I had
to go. I had a family thing had to go to.
But I was gonna leave a little bit earlier. But
I'm glad I stayed for the games because we played
(01:19):
a music game that had Baby in it. So there
was ten songs that had you know the names baby right,
but then you need to do the artist and the song.
So I got a nineteen point a nineteen out of
twenty I got. The only thing I got wrong was
one of the artists for one of the songs, So
I won.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That could be a good game for the show.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I won, and I got it and I got a
scratching it that ended up being thirty dollars Winter nice. Yeah,
that was exciting. That was That was a highlight of
of Baby.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I love your Way, Always be my baby, Be my Baby.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The raw nets, okay, that was the one.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, I didn't put the raw nettes. I thought it
was like that Brenda lady that does the rocking around
the Christmas tree for some reason. Yeah, but yeah, that
was what I got wrong. I got I got the
song kind of right with the artists wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not a music historian, but obviously
the Ronettes were way before my time. But a lot
of those songs from the sixties and seventies, what were
they called? What was that music called motown? Like motown stuff?
I know from movies that I grew up watching, and
I can relate certain songs to certain movies. Yeah, don't, please,
don't do that, but that is Ronnie Specter And I
(02:26):
know that because one of my favorite eighties songs is
Eddie Money's take Me Home Tonight. Yeah, and I think
I'm correct in this. Ronnie Spector obviously was a big
star with the Ronett sixties seventies around that time, and
then she kind of faded away and Eddie Money blew
up in the eighties and he had taken Me Home
Tonight and she sings that little bame man, and I
love that little part was so good, so good, so
(02:48):
all right, So the baby shadow went good. Other than
that when he obviously it was a rainy, shitty weekend.
It rained all weekend. Then there was the big storm, yeah,
which we were preparing for. There was possible tornadoes come
into its sale in New Hampshire. So we've battened down
the hatches and nothing, just a bunch of rain.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well it's funny, not funny. But my boyfriend and I
watched that Katrina documentary during the storm. Oh yeah, it
was like, oh, this is an ode to Katrina.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh I remember that?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah it was. It was honestly though, if you actually
watched a documentary, it was fucked up. Like obviously, the uh,
what's how I put this? The financial divide based off
of your ethnicity was very apparent in this situation because
a lot of the black people were in the lower
ninth Ward, which is the poor part, and that's where
(03:35):
the levees are that broke that. Then that's why. And
they say how they designed the city that way so
where the business district is safe, it would be safe,
and that's where a lot of people were. Normally white
people are buying homes that were not getting flooded. It's
all the black people.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Did they go into the Kanye Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And honestly I remember it happening. I was maybe I
was in middle school when Katrina happened, and I remember that,
and I didn't really know what he meant. But honestly,
watching this documentary, I know what he meant because it
goes through the days leading up in the days after.
George Bush was on vacation for two of those days,
really right, and then he flew over New Orleans. You
(04:12):
saw Air Force one fly over and he never landed.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And it took them, it took him days to respond
to these people that had nothing, and that their houses
were twenty five feet into water and literally and it
was ninety nine percent of them were black people. And everyone, yeah,
if you're if you had money, you had already left,
you might have a home somewhere else. You might And
the people that couldn't get out of the city in time,
that didn't have a car money, they didn't set of
(04:38):
buses to get them out, and now they're at their houses.
And what happened was they thought after Katrina, like, oh,
they came and the skies opened up and they were like, oh,
it's sunning out, it's beautiful. The French Quarter there was
no damage, and everyone thought everything was cool, and then
all the water from the levee started pulling to the
rest of the city and now they're like, oh shit,
we're like now underwater because everything from the Ninth War
(04:58):
was shifting to other parts city. What is this on
on Netflix?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I should walk?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So then the Kanye thing happened because they had like
a telethon thing raising money, and him and Mike Myers
were like speaking about helping these poor people, and then
you know, Mike Myers gives us like speech and then
it cuts to Kanye.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
George Bush doesn't care about black people.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And just the the awkward moment with Mike Mya.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
To build on this, there was a black woman in
the documentary that lived in a white neighborhood and she goes,
I lived in a white neighborhood and we were back
at our houses after we left the hotel, you know,
after everything cleared up, and of course then at that
point everything is now flooding the houses. This is a
day or two after Katrina, and she was like, my neighbor,
mister Walter him our backyard touched. They saved him, and
(05:43):
they never came for me. And she was like I
was like, she was like, and my son goes, They're
not coming for us. They're not care of rescue us.
And they rescued her white neighbors and they never rescued
her man like that. And they were saying people were
looting because they had nothing. They would tush their vibe.
They were trying to get food from the grocery store.
I mean at that point, and who cares anyone like that.
It could get to the grocery store, take whatever you need.
(06:04):
I don't think that would happen in twenty twenty five.
But in two thousand and five they were shooting people,
and then white people were shooting the black people that
were looting, and then it was ended being a race crime,
you know, hate crime after that. But they're like oh
yeah there, and then the governor this lady told them
to shoot to kill if they thought you were looting.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
If you want, they're just trying to survive.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're just trying to survive. I wouldn't call that loo
if if if a white person did, it was called survival.
The black person did, it was called looting.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, Like you.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Saw some of the the news stories and one was like, oh,
two residents are trying to survive and the other one
was like, young man looting this it was and they
were bolting the same thing. It was.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was I should watch this, it was real.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I did watch Unown Number. We talked about that on
the show this morning. Can we talk about it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Let's give a warning if you don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, if you don't want if you haven't watched The
Unknown Number, High School Catfish, it's number one on Netflix.
If you have not watched it, tune out right now
and three two one. What a fucking psycho that mother is?
You want to talk about the worst parent of the year, Listen,
I've met some bad parents in my life. Right, I'm
gonna tell you a quick story right now. You know
I like to overshare on the podcast that this is for.
(07:07):
I have a background and active addiction. We know that
I've told you this story before winning. This is a
hell of a comparison. But I actually thought about this, Okay.
Towards the end of my using, I had a drug
dealer who dealt drugs with his girlfriend and he got
arrested and went to jail, and she took over the operation,
and she was pregnant. So one day I called to
pick up some drugs and I went down to her
(07:28):
house and she opened the door and she was probably
eight months pregnant. Okay, vicious drug addicts. So I walk in,
I buy my drugs and she says to me, do
you want to smoke with me? And I said, sure,
free drugs. Okay. I didn't really think about it. And
we sat down and she pulled out the crack pipe
and she loosened it up. It was cracked. Yeah, So
she put the crack in the crack pipe and she
lit it, and I'll never forget when she put it
(07:49):
to her mouth. Now, this is like at my lower
She took a hit of the fucking crackpipe, and I
looked at her and was waiting to get my hit,
and I just looked down at her fucking belly.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Did you say anything?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, But it was like a moment of like like, oh,
what am I doing? What am I doing with my life?
And then she passed the pipe to me. And you know,
a better ending to the story would be like, you
know what I'm all said, I'm gonna leave. No, I
hit the pipe because I was a fucking active drug addict. Yeah,
but I always think about that. Now you want the
other side of that. He got out of jail. She went,
(08:21):
she went to jail. They both did time, they both
got out, they both got clean, they're both still clean,
and they have their daughter. And the daughter is perfectly healthy. Yes,
that's lucky, baby, very lucky. Well, yeah, I mean the
daughter is not fucked up.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's something she could have delayed, developmental delay.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
She could have definitely could have. So obviously that's a
horrific situation. One would say, that's a terrible.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
TAKEI now.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Years Yeah, so this would have been like two thousand
and six, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So she almost twenty yeah, yeah, wow, So yeah, that's
a bad mother.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right after you can make all the excuses that she
was an active addiction, she was a drug addict. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
this fucking mother is worse. I'm sorry, Whinnie. Yeah, because
drugs weren't an excuse. She was just crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So I'd heard the story a couple of years ago,
like faintly, so I kind of knew it. But when
I went to watch you, did you know it was
the mother?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I did.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It was so funny. My boyfriend he didn't know, but
he goes, oh, it's the mother. He said that in
the first couple of minutes, and I was annoyed because
I'm again I talked about the show I Am from
the Catfish era, where literally anyone like the fact that
it took the city Beale City Police eighteen months to
ask for help from the FBI and then to the
FBI and THEO like four or five months to figure
out this thing that like Neve and Max could have
(09:33):
figured out in thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Why didn't they change the number?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
There's so many things that pissed me up, this small town,
like this small town vibe, the Oh, Chloe's a fucking bitch,
and her parents.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh she's a mean girl. Oh she's a mean hold on,
I want to ask you. I want to ask you
so because I did the same thing as your boyfriend
at the beginning, I'm like, it's the mother.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But you know what threw me off is I was like,
why would they be interviewing?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, So that's where they threw me off because I'm like,
in my head, I'm like, I remember the story. I
say it's the mom because I remember her mugshot and
I'm like, I swear it's mom, Like a like, why
would she participate? I see, like, maybe there's more to
the story. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You usually rule out everybody that's a talking head on
the documentary, you rule them out.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So I let it go for like the documentary, and
then it came out. I'm like the things she was
saying about her daughter called kill yourself. You're fat. I mean,
you're you're antarexic, you have no ass Oh, like she's
gonna suck Owens dick.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It was her mother fourteen?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, how is it not sexual harassment about a fourteen
year old talking about doing sexual things with him? Right,
she's fucking crazy. Now with the documentary left out, which
the cut, there's an article from I think the New
York Post New York Times called the Cut, and they
talk about it. I think it's like a portion of
like the the newspaper. They go into it way deeper.
She was obsessed with Owen. She would like go to
(10:46):
all the Owen's athletic stuff and to the point where
she planned a family trip to Florida because that's where
Owen had like a baseball tournament or something.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So that's what started. And you know how she lies.
She tried to say that she didn't start it. It
was her the entire time.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
She's a fucking psycho. And then the poor girl, her
daughter was like I miss my mom, Like what you know?
And I'm like, I don't. I don't think they're even
eighteen yet. If you do the math, they might be
about be seniors this year because it happened what twenty
twenty started twenty Yeah, they were, and they were eighth grade,
they were like thirteen.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah I was. I was flabbergasted at a lot of things,
but especially when the reveil was on the body cam
footage when they told the daughter and the dad about
it and the daughter had no reaction. Yeah, I did
look it up. And you already knew this that they
left this out to make good TV, which makes sense,
that's what it's supposed to be. Shocking. They all knew,
they had they had an idea. They were like ninety
percent that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Didn't seem to know.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But the daughter knew.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, the dad. I felt so bad for her now. Also,
I'm a believer of like sharing finances with your with
your especially husband or wife.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh how did they know she wasn't working? I know?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And then they had four clothes on like a house.
They got kicked out of a house because they weren't
paying rent, like she kept lying about things, so they
thought she was working all day and she.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Was just texting her daughter, that's all she was doing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And also it's the weird way of her texting her
daughter these things and then in front of a big
honey year beautiful. Don't listen to that person.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, well it was it was a former of Munchaus
and yeah, so yeah, she was doing it not to
attack her daughter as to so much to get her
to come to her and need her and want.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But then also she had this weird obsession with the
boyfriend and almost so this is what I hate. The
middle school boyfriend daughter like shit, and parents that encourage
it like they're fucking twelve. Like if they have at
school a little locker room, like a little locker crush,
that's fine, But for you to encourage it this way,
beal city parents, get a life. Yeah, like, oh, yude,
so cute, that's my first love. You don't love is
(12:33):
at twelve?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, you definitely you don't like come on.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So the fact that like they were encouraging this relationship
at legit thirteen and then to the point where you know,
it's like becoming this thing in the whole city like
the whole town knows. And then I don't know. I
was very uncomfortable with the amount of phone usage with
these children because again they weren't even in high school.
So the fact that these kids had the phone and
they were getting text at like one in the morning.
I went with getting texts and didn't want his parents
(12:57):
to take his phone. It's like, give me your fucking phone.
You're thirteen.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And the phone usage of the mom too, it's quite shocking.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So that for the dad.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So if you haven't if you watched it, let us know,
hit the talkbacks. If you have not watched it, hopefully
we didn't ruin it for you and you too.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
By the way, Chloe and her parents, oh my god,
her parents are also bullies. But dad's like the cop yep,
that's like, oh my dard. And it's like, you know
that that girl. Everything they said about her is true.
She just didn't do this. I know she we know
she didn't do this, but you know everything they said
about her. Her bestie Owen said, no one likes her.
She's mean like that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
She was a definite mean girl. Mean girl. All right,
Well that's our take on that. Let us know what
you think. And we gotta go, We gotta do some
stuff behind the scenes, but secret sound tomorrow seven ten
and eight ten on the Morning show, and we're hoping
that no one guesses correctly A two ten and four ten,
So Girl, bigger and more exciting. So anyway, welcome to
a brand new week, Popye
All right, here we go. I am ready welcome to
a brand new week the After Show podcast, Winnie justin
Welcome back, Winnie. I was really hoping in a perfect world,
besides the secret sound, besides the VMA's, besides everything else
that happened over the weekend, the Patriots losing, that you
were going to have a run in with Jordan Hudson
at the baby shower and now no listen, and then
(00:22):
we would talk about it during the show, and then
on the after show you would give like the real scoop,
because that's what this is. But she was a no show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nope, she didn't come. I'd nasd soe because obviously that's
not important.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's about our baby.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
From what I knew, she was supposed to come. I
don't know. Because of the weather. She couldn't get up here.
It was pouring on Sunday. I don't know what happened.
I don't know that's true.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Because she was at the game, in UNC game Saturday night,
so she would have had to fly in. Maybe she
was gonna fly in Sunday morning. Who knows.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But how is the baby shower?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know, Daniel Direct obviously had me up. Oh, there's
such a sweet good couple. Food was good. They had
some games and I had I was. I got there
it was like eleven thirty. I left it like two.
That's when they were getting the presence going. I had
to go. I had a family thing had to go to.
But I was gonna leave a little bit earlier. But
I'm glad I stayed for the games because we played
(01:19):
a music game that had Baby in it. So there
was ten songs that had you know the names baby right,
but then you need to do the artist and the song.
So I got a nineteen point a nineteen out of
twenty I got. The only thing I got wrong was
one of the artists for one of the songs, So
I won.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That could be a good game for the show.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I won, and I got it and I got a
scratching it that ended up being thirty dollars Winter nice. Yeah,
that was exciting. That was That was a highlight of
of Baby.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I love your Way, Always be my baby, Be my Baby.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The raw nets, okay, that was the one.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, I didn't put the raw nettes. I thought it
was like that Brenda lady that does the rocking around
the Christmas tree for some reason. Yeah, but yeah, that
was what I got wrong. I got I got the
song kind of right with the artists wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not a music historian, but obviously
the Ronettes were way before my time. But a lot
of those songs from the sixties and seventies, what were
they called? What was that music called motown? Like motown stuff?
I know from movies that I grew up watching, and
I can relate certain songs to certain movies. Yeah, don't, please,
don't do that, but that is Ronnie Specter And I
(02:26):
know that because one of my favorite eighties songs is
Eddie Money's take Me Home Tonight. Yeah, and I think
I'm correct in this. Ronnie Spector obviously was a big
star with the Ronett sixties seventies around that time, and
then she kind of faded away and Eddie Money blew
up in the eighties and he had taken Me Home
Tonight and she sings that little bame man, and I
love that little part was so good, so good, so
(02:48):
all right, So the baby shadow went good. Other than
that when he obviously it was a rainy, shitty weekend.
It rained all weekend. Then there was the big storm, yeah,
which we were preparing for. There was possible tornadoes come
into its sale in New Hampshire. So we've battened down
the hatches and nothing, just a bunch of rain.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well it's funny, not funny. But my boyfriend and I
watched that Katrina documentary during the storm. Oh yeah, it
was like, oh, this is an ode to Katrina.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh I remember that?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah it was. It was honestly though, if you actually
watched a documentary, it was fucked up. Like obviously, the uh,
what's how I put this? The financial divide based off
of your ethnicity was very apparent in this situation because
a lot of the black people were in the lower
ninth Ward, which is the poor part, and that's where
(03:35):
the levees are that broke that. Then that's why. And
they say how they designed the city that way so
where the business district is safe, it would be safe,
and that's where a lot of people were. Normally white
people are buying homes that were not getting flooded. It's
all the black people.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Did they go into the Kanye Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And honestly I remember it happening. I was maybe I
was in middle school when Katrina happened, and I remember that,
and I didn't really know what he meant. But honestly,
watching this documentary, I know what he meant because it
goes through the days leading up in the days after.
George Bush was on vacation for two of those days,
really right, and then he flew over New Orleans. You
(04:12):
saw Air Force one fly over and he never landed.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And it took them, it took him days to respond
to these people that had nothing, and that their houses
were twenty five feet into water and literally and it
was ninety nine percent of them were black people. And everyone, yeah,
if you're if you had money, you had already left,
you might have a home somewhere else. You might And
the people that couldn't get out of the city in time,
that didn't have a car money, they didn't set of
(04:38):
buses to get them out, and now they're at their houses.
And what happened was they thought after Katrina, like, oh,
they came and the skies opened up and they were like, oh,
it's sunning out, it's beautiful. The French Quarter there was
no damage, and everyone thought everything was cool, and then
all the water from the levee started pulling to the
rest of the city and now they're like, oh shit,
we're like now underwater because everything from the Ninth War
(04:58):
was shifting to other parts city. What is this on
on Netflix?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I should walk?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So then the Kanye thing happened because they had like
a telethon thing raising money, and him and Mike Myers
were like speaking about helping these poor people, and then
you know, Mike Myers gives us like speech and then
it cuts to Kanye.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
George Bush doesn't care about black people.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And just the the awkward moment with Mike Mya.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
To build on this, there was a black woman in
the documentary that lived in a white neighborhood and she goes,
I lived in a white neighborhood and we were back
at our houses after we left the hotel, you know,
after everything cleared up, and of course then at that
point everything is now flooding the houses. This is a
day or two after Katrina, and she was like, my neighbor,
mister Walter him our backyard touched. They saved him, and
(05:43):
they never came for me. And she was like I
was like, she was like, and my son goes, They're
not coming for us. They're not care of rescue us.
And they rescued her white neighbors and they never rescued
her man like that. And they were saying people were
looting because they had nothing. They would tush their vibe.
They were trying to get food from the grocery store.
I mean at that point, and who cares anyone like that.
It could get to the grocery store, take whatever you need.
(06:04):
I don't think that would happen in twenty twenty five.
But in two thousand and five they were shooting people,
and then white people were shooting the black people that
were looting, and then it was ended being a race crime,
you know, hate crime after that. But they're like oh
yeah there, and then the governor this lady told them
to shoot to kill if they thought you were looting.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
If you want, they're just trying to survive.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're just trying to survive. I wouldn't call that loo
if if if a white person did, it was called survival.
The black person did, it was called looting.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, Like you.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Saw some of the the news stories and one was like, oh,
two residents are trying to survive and the other one
was like, young man looting this it was and they
were bolting the same thing. It was.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was I should watch this, it was real.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I did watch Unown Number. We talked about that on
the show this morning. Can we talk about it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Let's give a warning if you don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, if you don't want if you haven't watched The
Unknown Number, High School Catfish, it's number one on Netflix.
If you have not watched it, tune out right now
and three two one. What a fucking psycho that mother is?
You want to talk about the worst parent of the year, Listen,
I've met some bad parents in my life. Right, I'm
gonna tell you a quick story right now. You know
I like to overshare on the podcast that this is for.
(07:07):
I have a background and active addiction. We know that
I've told you this story before winning. This is a
hell of a comparison. But I actually thought about this, Okay.
Towards the end of my using, I had a drug
dealer who dealt drugs with his girlfriend and he got
arrested and went to jail, and she took over the operation,
and she was pregnant. So one day I called to
pick up some drugs and I went down to her
(07:28):
house and she opened the door and she was probably
eight months pregnant. Okay, vicious drug addicts. So I walk in,
I buy my drugs and she says to me, do
you want to smoke with me? And I said, sure,
free drugs. Okay. I didn't really think about it. And
we sat down and she pulled out the crack pipe
and she loosened it up. It was cracked. Yeah, So
she put the crack in the crack pipe and she
lit it, and I'll never forget when she put it
(07:49):
to her mouth. Now, this is like at my lower
She took a hit of the fucking crackpipe, and I
looked at her and was waiting to get my hit,
and I just looked down at her fucking belly.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Did you say anything?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, But it was like a moment of like like, oh,
what am I doing? What am I doing with my life?
And then she passed the pipe to me. And you know,
a better ending to the story would be like, you
know what I'm all said, I'm gonna leave. No, I
hit the pipe because I was a fucking active drug addict. Yeah,
but I always think about that. Now you want the
other side of that. He got out of jail. She went,
(08:21):
she went to jail. They both did time, they both
got out, they both got clean, they're both still clean,
and they have their daughter. And the daughter is perfectly healthy. Yes,
that's lucky, baby, very lucky. Well, yeah, I mean the
daughter is not fucked up.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's something she could have delayed, developmental delay.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
She could have definitely could have. So obviously that's a
horrific situation. One would say, that's a terrible.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
TAKEI now.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Years Yeah, so this would have been like two thousand
and six, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So she almost twenty yeah, yeah, wow, So yeah, that's
a bad mother.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right after you can make all the excuses that she
was an active addiction, she was a drug addict. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
this fucking mother is worse. I'm sorry, Whinnie. Yeah, because
drugs weren't an excuse. She was just crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So I'd heard the story a couple of years ago,
like faintly, so I kind of knew it. But when
I went to watch you, did you know it was
the mother?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I did.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It was so funny. My boyfriend he didn't know, but
he goes, oh, it's the mother. He said that in
the first couple of minutes, and I was annoyed because
I'm again I talked about the show I Am from
the Catfish era, where literally anyone like the fact that
it took the city Beale City Police eighteen months to
ask for help from the FBI and then to the
FBI and THEO like four or five months to figure
out this thing that like Neve and Max could have
(09:33):
figured out in thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Why didn't they change the number?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
There's so many things that pissed me up, this small town,
like this small town vibe, the Oh, Chloe's a fucking bitch,
and her parents.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh she's a mean girl. Oh she's a mean hold on,
I want to ask you. I want to ask you
so because I did the same thing as your boyfriend
at the beginning, I'm like, it's the mother.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But you know what threw me off is I was like,
why would they be interviewing?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, So that's where they threw me off because I'm like,
in my head, I'm like, I remember the story. I
say it's the mom because I remember her mugshot and
I'm like, I swear it's mom, Like a like, why
would she participate? I see, like, maybe there's more to
the story. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You usually rule out everybody that's a talking head on
the documentary, you rule them out.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So I let it go for like the documentary, and
then it came out. I'm like the things she was
saying about her daughter called kill yourself. You're fat. I mean,
you're you're antarexic, you have no ass Oh, like she's
gonna suck Owens dick.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It was her mother fourteen?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, how is it not sexual harassment about a fourteen
year old talking about doing sexual things with him? Right,
she's fucking crazy. Now with the documentary left out, which
the cut, there's an article from I think the New
York Post New York Times called the Cut, and they
talk about it. I think it's like a portion of
like the the newspaper. They go into it way deeper.
She was obsessed with Owen. She would like go to
(10:46):
all the Owen's athletic stuff and to the point where
she planned a family trip to Florida because that's where
Owen had like a baseball tournament or something.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So that's what started. And you know how she lies.
She tried to say that she didn't start it. It
was her the entire time.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
She's a fucking psycho. And then the poor girl, her
daughter was like I miss my mom, Like what you know?
And I'm like, I don't. I don't think they're even
eighteen yet. If you do the math, they might be
about be seniors this year because it happened what twenty
twenty started twenty Yeah, they were, and they were eighth grade,
they were like thirteen.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah I was. I was flabbergasted at a lot of things,
but especially when the reveil was on the body cam
footage when they told the daughter and the dad about
it and the daughter had no reaction. Yeah, I did
look it up. And you already knew this that they
left this out to make good TV, which makes sense,
that's what it's supposed to be. Shocking. They all knew,
they had they had an idea. They were like ninety
percent that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Didn't seem to know.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But the daughter knew.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, the dad. I felt so bad for her now. Also,
I'm a believer of like sharing finances with your with
your especially husband or wife.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh how did they know she wasn't working? I know?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And then they had four clothes on like a house.
They got kicked out of a house because they weren't
paying rent, like she kept lying about things, so they
thought she was working all day and she.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Was just texting her daughter, that's all she was doing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And also it's the weird way of her texting her
daughter these things and then in front of a big
honey year beautiful. Don't listen to that person.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, well it was it was a former of Munchaus
and yeah, so yeah, she was doing it not to
attack her daughter as to so much to get her
to come to her and need her and want.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But then also she had this weird obsession with the
boyfriend and almost so this is what I hate. The
middle school boyfriend daughter like shit, and parents that encourage
it like they're fucking twelve. Like if they have at
school a little locker room, like a little locker crush,
that's fine, But for you to encourage it this way,
beal city parents, get a life. Yeah, like, oh, yude,
so cute, that's my first love. You don't love is
(12:33):
at twelve?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, you definitely you don't like come on.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So the fact that like they were encouraging this relationship
at legit thirteen and then to the point where you know,
it's like becoming this thing in the whole city like
the whole town knows. And then I don't know. I
was very uncomfortable with the amount of phone usage with
these children because again they weren't even in high school.
So the fact that these kids had the phone and
they were getting text at like one in the morning.
I went with getting texts and didn't want his parents
(12:57):
to take his phone. It's like, give me your fucking phone.
You're thirteen.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And the phone usage of the mom too, it's quite shocking.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So that for the dad.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So if you haven't if you watched it, let us know,
hit the talkbacks. If you have not watched it, hopefully
we didn't ruin it for you and you too.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
By the way, Chloe and her parents, oh my god,
her parents are also bullies. But dad's like the cop yep,
that's like, oh my dard. And it's like, you know
that that girl. Everything they said about her is true.
She just didn't do this. I know she we know
she didn't do this, but you know everything they said
about her. Her bestie Owen said, no one likes her.
She's mean like that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
She was a definite mean girl. Mean girl. All right,
Well that's our take on that. Let us know what
you think. And we gotta go, We gotta do some
stuff behind the scenes, but secret sound tomorrow seven ten
and eight ten on the Morning show, and we're hoping
that no one guesses correctly A two ten and four ten,
So Girl, bigger and more exciting. So anyway, welcome to
a brand new week, Popye
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