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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Winnie, here we go after show, and if
you don't mind, I'm gonna do the podcast with a
screen in front of us to block us. It's fine
because there's something going on on your in your face
on one side of it. Yep, it looks like a
little bit swollen and you have a red bump. Yes,
you want to explain what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, So I yesterday I wasn't feeling good after the show,
and so I went home thinking like maybe I'm tired,
you know, And I noticed on Sunday a red bump
on my temple area and I thought it was like
a pimple.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Like I didn't really I'm like, oh, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Was it swollen like it is now? No, it's really swollen.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So I went home yesterday and I'm like, I don't
think this is a pimple. And I in my glands,
like my right here is all swollen and tender, like
if I touch here it hurts.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's not like oh it hurts, but it's very.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Tender to felt like when you have a sore throat.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I thought I was getting a sore throat, like I
thought I was, you know, coming down with something cold
here this whole side, my cheek, my cheekbone, near my ear,
all the way up here, all here tender to the touch, swollen, hurts.
So I FaceTime my mom and she's like, you need
to go to like, you know, urging care. And my
(01:22):
mom's that mom that like just throws some dirt on it,
like we did not go to the hospital when I
was younger, like we didn't know, like, you know, you're fine,
take talent all whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So my boyfriend took me, which was nice of him,
and it was very quick.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They were really quick and like it was in and
out and they were like, oh, yeah, it looks like
something bag you. I'm like, well that's what I thought.
I'm like telling him and my fever. I didn't have
a fever, didn't like my blood pressure was good all that.
So they gave me an antibiotic and then told me
to take Claritin or benadryl to you know, help with
the swollenness and the religiic reaction whatever I'm having to it.
(01:54):
And that's been it's been twenty four hours, and I
feel like no difference. I actually feel a little worse.
My face is kind of warm on this side, and
I don't, and I feel like like I have a headache,
but it's literally on this side of my body, Like
this side my body's chilling. But this side of my body,
which is my left side of my body, if you're
looking at what you're looking at me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So it's yours, your left side.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So I feel like maybe it's something else on top
of that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean, they said it may be maybe a spider.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Bite something some type of bite.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So can insect bites, cause this that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, that's what they I mean. I would like
to think the nurse petitioner, I knew what she was
talking about. She had me in and ounce, she put
me on antibiotics. She told me to take claredon, told
me to ice my face, blah blah blah. The antibiotics
should be quick, right, And I just I've taken three
so far.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Could you take two a day?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
When was this yesterday? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So I've taken it so but my face feels worse.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, I would say wait through today. Yeah, if tomorrow
you don't feel better, then I'd go back.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, because I'm like, my face looks like a filler
on this side.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, I see it you know, it looks like Jigsaw.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, it's really weird.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And I just it's like, I think it's freaking me
out because it's the whole side of my face. It's
not just like if it was just just this general area.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now I can see it for the people that are listening,
it's there's a red bump next to her left eye,
but then that's swollen. But then her cheekbone is also swollen.
On the whole side of her face, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, bumpy, yeah, and then down to my neck where
it's really tender.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
So I'm a little I'm not. I'm like a little
bit like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Like I do you have any at any time a
thought that maybe you are becoming Spider Woman?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, I was like, of course, you like you think,
oh my god, I obviously my dad's going through cancer
right now. And I'm like, oh my god, do I
like some neck? Can do I have some cancer like
on my face or something like that. So it was
I guess affirming that. It was nice that the doctor
was like, Okay, like, clearly it's allergic action to something,
so do I have cancer? But yeah, it's just not
(03:50):
a fun feeling when you don't know what's going on
even though they said one thing, and you're like, do
I not trust that person because I don't feel good,
and you think, like, oh we I think in twenty
twenty five, oh medicine, I should take it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I should feel fine.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I know it takes a little bit to work, but
I'm like, damn, three pills in with two clariton, nothing's happened.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, just wait the uh wait the day, yeah, and
then maybe go back.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But yeah, I feel like shit, that sucks my face
saw warm. Yeah, and like I have a headache, So
I don't know. I don't know what to do. I'm
screnna go home, I think, and sleepy.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Sleep's a good out. I think sleep is like the
best thing for it's the best.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And like, yesterday had a long day because I babysat
till like eight, so I went home, went to urging hare,
and then I had babysit from three to eight. So
I feel like that was like probably didn't help either,
but anyways.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, a little bit of rest. You can watch some TV.
Did you watch the Charlie Sheens?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So funny you said that My boyfriend and I were
watching episode one. So yesterday we were we're in the
middle of episode one and that's really good.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, but I like I'm watching it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I was watching it slowly because we started it and
then we like went off of it. But like, I
obviously know him from really Two and a Half Men
because my dad and mom watched that. My dad, Oh,
that's one of my dad's favorite shows. He laughs every time.
You know, it's all syndicated. It's you know, yeah, it's
played like four times a day. But yeah, that's how
I really know him from. But he's like, has a
(05:09):
really interesting story and even like learning about his dad
and his brother and like the Penn brothers and just
like like and then his first movie ever with fucking
George Clooney in Large and like what like that's and
then him getting the walk on role on Fierras Bueller's
Day Off and being late and like and then him
(05:30):
say basically that John Who's did not like yelling at
him made him feel like, oh, I guess I can
be late to like stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And yeah, I don't know. It's it's definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Interesting quite the career.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I haven't even gotten into like the heavy heavy juggies yet.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's insane. I mean there's some stuff and that I
knew about that was not covered in the documentary, Like
when he had that big melt down in twenty eleven,
he was like completely spiraling, was right before he gave
that interview with the Banging seven gram Rocks, And he
had this fascination with porn stars and he would have
these porn stars come over to with house and party
for like days at a time. Yeah, and then like
random people would show up with cocaine, like briefcases full
(06:06):
of cocaine. I don't know how the guy's still alive, honestly. Yeah.
But you know, I was watching it with my wife
and both of us are in recovery, and we think, like,
imagine being drug addicts, like we were being rich and
being rich. Yeah, yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You guys made it happen with Nutting. Yeah, Jane, if
you had all that money, yeah, I mean he.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Was the highest PATV star he was making.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't know iget if he said it in the
documentary or the interview. One of the interviews I saw
he was making fifty five thousand dollars an hour on
two and a half.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Men, which is wait, but what was it like a year,
like twenty million, yeah or something just for like twenty
episodes or something like that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So much money, so much money. And even how the
documentary starts with the story of him flying the plane. Yeah, okay, okay,
who are those pilots?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I'm like, that's not like is this did he hallucinate this?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Because what pilots would let a civilian fly the plane
like cracked out?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, I know, like you know what.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean when they cracked out with him like it
was and it wasn't a private plane, it was a
commercial plane.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
There were like three hundred passengers on the plane.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, they took it off of autopilot and then he
was staring the plane and then it started to like
shake and they're like, oh wait, maybe we shouldn't do this.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's that's literally insane. Yeah yeah, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Charlie sheen Man and he's living with the AIDS HIV, Well, no,
that's not AIDS HIV right now. Yeah, it turns into ADS.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, hopefully it won't. Hopefully, no Magic Johnson it yeah, hopefully. Well.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Nowadays, I have a friend that had had HIV since
like eighty five.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, I hate to say it, that's I think it's
a way for them to make money because it's it
costs more to treat it than to cure it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So if you treat like there must at.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
This point, if you can treat HIV this well, that
no one gets into the aid's part right, right. And
they also have I know, they have prep like a
lot of gay men, you know, take prep so that
they can you know, not worry about. So there's so
many ways to either prevent HIV or the part of age.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Why don't we have a cure?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I went here, I'm gonna go down a rabbit.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Hole, and then there's a cure for cancer. Why don't
we have that? When I have something sad though, I
have memories of me when I was really at my
lowest and this kid that I knew kind of was
friendly with it was a drug addict caught HIV. Yeah,
and so when he caught it, you know, everybody knew it.
And I ended up seeing him and ask him about it,
and I'm like, is that true? And he told me, yeah,
it's true. And then he told me that for life
(08:28):
he gets free health insurance and a disability check of
like two thousand dollars a month for the rest of
his life in Massachusetts, and I thought to.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Myself, don't tell me you're talking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I was like, here, I am like trying to be
careful with how I live. Fuck it, get free health
insurance and a free check every month. Like that was
the thinking that I had.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I didn't know that that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah. Yeah, I didn't like go out and like try.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
No, I know, but you're like, oh, if I get
it whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But it is true that I was with a woman,
a girl that had HIV. I was actually sexually in
ivy drug use. So I lucked out. I was convinced
that I had it, and I was afraid to get
tested and you have to get tested like three times
to get fully cleared. So I did test negative three times.
But I also learned that it's harder for a woman
(09:17):
to transmitted to a guy. It's much easier for a
guy to transmit it to a girl. Yeah, Hence, maybe
that's why I like in the gay community. It was
so like, you know, being passed around.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, So we check out the Charlie Sheen documentary. It's
definitely worth watching for us. Secret sound is going on.
We'll see if we have a winner at two ten
and four ten. If not, back tomorrow morning. And I
will say this as a tease, okay, that I wouldn't
start ramping things up here. So if we start going
where like it's not getting guessed, or even if it
does get guests, we might start increasing the jackpot. So
(09:52):
you know, we do buy one hundred and eight dollars,
we'll start increasing it more, adding money, you know, because
we have this pile of money we have to get
rid of. When we're on a time crunch. Other things
are coming, right.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Other things are coming.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's about that time of year, if you know what
I mean. So things are coming. So follow along everybody,
Thank you for listening, and we'll talk tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
By
All right, Winnie, here we go after show, and if
you don't mind, I'm gonna do the podcast with a
screen in front of us to block us. It's fine
because there's something going on on your in your face
on one side of it. Yep, it looks like a
little bit swollen and you have a red bump. Yes,
you want to explain what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, So I yesterday I wasn't feeling good after the show,
and so I went home thinking like maybe I'm tired,
you know, And I noticed on Sunday a red bump
on my temple area and I thought it was like
a pimple.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Like I didn't really I'm like, oh, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Was it swollen like it is now? No, it's really swollen.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So I went home yesterday and I'm like, I don't
think this is a pimple. And I in my glands,
like my right here is all swollen and tender, like
if I touch here it hurts.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's not like oh it hurts, but it's very.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Tender to felt like when you have a sore throat.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I thought I was getting a sore throat, like I
thought I was, you know, coming down with something cold
here this whole side, my cheek, my cheekbone, near my ear,
all the way up here, all here tender to the touch, swollen, hurts.
So I FaceTime my mom and she's like, you need
to go to like, you know, urging care. And my
(01:22):
mom's that mom that like just throws some dirt on it,
like we did not go to the hospital when I
was younger, like we didn't know, like, you know, you're fine,
take talent all whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So my boyfriend took me, which was nice of him,
and it was very quick.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They were really quick and like it was in and
out and they were like, oh, yeah, it looks like
something bag you. I'm like, well that's what I thought.
I'm like telling him and my fever. I didn't have
a fever, didn't like my blood pressure was good all that.
So they gave me an antibiotic and then told me
to take Claritin or benadryl to you know, help with
the swollenness and the religiic reaction whatever I'm having to it.
(01:54):
And that's been it's been twenty four hours, and I
feel like no difference. I actually feel a little worse.
My face is kind of warm on this side, and
I don't, and I feel like like I have a headache,
but it's literally on this side of my body, Like
this side my body's chilling. But this side of my body,
which is my left side of my body, if you're
looking at what you're looking at me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So it's yours, your left side.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So I feel like maybe it's something else on top
of that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean, they said it may be maybe a spider.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Bite something some type of bite.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So can insect bites, cause this that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, that's what they I mean. I would like
to think the nurse petitioner, I knew what she was
talking about. She had me in and ounce, she put
me on antibiotics. She told me to take claredon, told
me to ice my face, blah blah blah. The antibiotics
should be quick, right, And I just I've taken three
so far.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Could you take two a day?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
When was this yesterday? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So I've taken it so but my face feels worse.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, I would say wait through today. Yeah, if tomorrow
you don't feel better, then I'd go back.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, because I'm like, my face looks like a filler
on this side.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, I see it you know, it looks like Jigsaw.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, it's really weird.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And I just it's like, I think it's freaking me
out because it's the whole side of my face. It's
not just like if it was just just this general area.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now I can see it for the people that are listening,
it's there's a red bump next to her left eye,
but then that's swollen. But then her cheekbone is also swollen.
On the whole side of her face, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, bumpy, yeah, and then down to my neck where
it's really tender.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
So I'm a little I'm not. I'm like a little
bit like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Like I do you have any at any time a
thought that maybe you are becoming Spider Woman?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, I was like, of course, you like you think,
oh my god, I obviously my dad's going through cancer
right now. And I'm like, oh my god, do I
like some neck? Can do I have some cancer like
on my face or something like that. So it was
I guess affirming that. It was nice that the doctor
was like, Okay, like, clearly it's allergic action to something,
so do I have cancer? But yeah, it's just not
(03:50):
a fun feeling when you don't know what's going on
even though they said one thing, and you're like, do
I not trust that person because I don't feel good,
and you think, like, oh we I think in twenty
twenty five, oh medicine, I should take it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I should feel fine.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I know it takes a little bit to work, but
I'm like, damn, three pills in with two clariton, nothing's happened.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, just wait the uh wait the day, yeah, and
then maybe go back.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But yeah, I feel like shit, that sucks my face
saw warm. Yeah, and like I have a headache, So
I don't know. I don't know what to do. I'm
screnna go home, I think, and sleepy.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Sleep's a good out. I think sleep is like the
best thing for it's the best.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And like, yesterday had a long day because I babysat
till like eight, so I went home, went to urging hare,
and then I had babysit from three to eight. So
I feel like that was like probably didn't help either,
but anyways.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, a little bit of rest. You can watch some TV.
Did you watch the Charlie Sheens?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So funny you said that My boyfriend and I were
watching episode one. So yesterday we were we're in the
middle of episode one and that's really good.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, but I like I'm watching it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I was watching it slowly because we started it and
then we like went off of it. But like, I
obviously know him from really Two and a Half Men
because my dad and mom watched that. My dad, Oh,
that's one of my dad's favorite shows. He laughs every time.
You know, it's all syndicated. It's you know, yeah, it's
played like four times a day. But yeah, that's how
I really know him from. But he's like, has a
(05:09):
really interesting story and even like learning about his dad
and his brother and like the Penn brothers and just
like like and then his first movie ever with fucking
George Clooney in Large and like what like that's and
then him getting the walk on role on Fierras Bueller's
Day Off and being late and like and then him
(05:30):
say basically that John Who's did not like yelling at
him made him feel like, oh, I guess I can
be late to like stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And yeah, I don't know. It's it's definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Interesting quite the career.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I haven't even gotten into like the heavy heavy juggies yet.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's insane. I mean there's some stuff and that I
knew about that was not covered in the documentary, Like
when he had that big melt down in twenty eleven,
he was like completely spiraling, was right before he gave
that interview with the Banging seven gram Rocks, And he
had this fascination with porn stars and he would have
these porn stars come over to with house and party
for like days at a time. Yeah, and then like
random people would show up with cocaine, like briefcases full
(06:06):
of cocaine. I don't know how the guy's still alive, honestly. Yeah.
But you know, I was watching it with my wife
and both of us are in recovery, and we think, like,
imagine being drug addicts, like we were being rich and
being rich. Yeah, yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You guys made it happen with Nutting. Yeah, Jane, if
you had all that money, yeah, I mean he.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Was the highest PATV star he was making.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't know iget if he said it in the
documentary or the interview. One of the interviews I saw
he was making fifty five thousand dollars an hour on
two and a half.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Men, which is wait, but what was it like a year,
like twenty million, yeah or something just for like twenty
episodes or something like that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So much money, so much money. And even how the
documentary starts with the story of him flying the plane. Yeah, okay, okay,
who are those pilots?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I'm like, that's not like is this did he hallucinate this?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Because what pilots would let a civilian fly the plane
like cracked out?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, I know, like you know what.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean when they cracked out with him like it
was and it wasn't a private plane, it was a
commercial plane.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
There were like three hundred passengers on the plane.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, they took it off of autopilot and then he
was staring the plane and then it started to like
shake and they're like, oh wait, maybe we shouldn't do this.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's that's literally insane. Yeah yeah, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Charlie sheen Man and he's living with the AIDS HIV, Well, no,
that's not AIDS HIV right now. Yeah, it turns into ADS.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, hopefully it won't. Hopefully, no Magic Johnson it yeah, hopefully. Well.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Nowadays, I have a friend that had had HIV since
like eighty five.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, I hate to say it, that's I think it's
a way for them to make money because it's it
costs more to treat it than to cure it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So if you treat like there must at.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
This point, if you can treat HIV this well, that
no one gets into the aid's part right, right. And
they also have I know, they have prep like a
lot of gay men, you know, take prep so that
they can you know, not worry about. So there's so
many ways to either prevent HIV or the part of age.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Why don't we have a cure?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I went here, I'm gonna go down a rabbit.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Hole, and then there's a cure for cancer. Why don't
we have that? When I have something sad though, I
have memories of me when I was really at my
lowest and this kid that I knew kind of was
friendly with it was a drug addict caught HIV. Yeah,
and so when he caught it, you know, everybody knew it.
And I ended up seeing him and ask him about it,
and I'm like, is that true? And he told me, yeah,
it's true. And then he told me that for life
(08:28):
he gets free health insurance and a disability check of
like two thousand dollars a month for the rest of
his life in Massachusetts, and I thought to.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Myself, don't tell me you're talking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I was like, here, I am like trying to be
careful with how I live. Fuck it, get free health
insurance and a free check every month. Like that was
the thinking that I had.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I didn't know that that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah. Yeah, I didn't like go out and like try.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
No, I know, but you're like, oh, if I get
it whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But it is true that I was with a woman,
a girl that had HIV. I was actually sexually in
ivy drug use. So I lucked out. I was convinced
that I had it, and I was afraid to get
tested and you have to get tested like three times
to get fully cleared. So I did test negative three times.
But I also learned that it's harder for a woman
(09:17):
to transmitted to a guy. It's much easier for a
guy to transmit it to a girl. Yeah, Hence, maybe
that's why I like in the gay community. It was
so like, you know, being passed around.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, So we check out the Charlie Sheen documentary. It's
definitely worth watching for us. Secret sound is going on.
We'll see if we have a winner at two ten
and four ten. If not, back tomorrow morning. And I
will say this as a tease, okay, that I wouldn't
start ramping things up here. So if we start going
where like it's not getting guessed, or even if it
does get guests, we might start increasing the jackpot. So
(09:52):
you know, we do buy one hundred and eight dollars,
we'll start increasing it more, adding money, you know, because
we have this pile of money we have to get
rid of. When we're on a time crunch. Other things
are coming, right.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Other things are coming.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's about that time of year, if you know what
I mean. So things are coming. So follow along everybody,
Thank you for listening, and we'll talk tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
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