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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, what do you know another after show coming your
way on a Tuesday. Hi, everybody, justin Whinnie And yeah,
the after show you can now leave talkbacks on.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I don't think we talk enough about that, we don't.
I think we.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Started to when it first launched a few weeks ago,
but people may have forgotten.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
That's one on vacation, went on vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, but yeah, if you listen to this podcast, maybe
you listen to it other than iHeart. You have to
be on iHeart to leave the talkback so you can
consume it anywhere. He needs me on iHeart to leave
it talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But why not Heart? It's free to download, free to use.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know what, you might start using the iHeart iHeart
and then you'll might like it better.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, you know, give it a go.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, And yesterday we were talking about Winnie being a
caretaker for her aunt. Her aunt is moving into her building. Yeah,
and she's not like disabled or she is disabled.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I would not like help. She needs extra help.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And it was actually shocking to me that you know
you are gonna help regardless, But it was shocking to
me that you didn't know that you could possibly get paid,
like as a work.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I did know that, but I don't think for her
she's going to qualify for that.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You might want to check it out. Hey, guys, this
is Nelson for the AMNICA in the public.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I was listening and when they were talking, Whenning sorry
was talking about her aunt living in her conflicts and
if her insurance.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So, if she has benefits for hotal health care home
health AIDS, she could definitely apply to become her aunt's
specific particular case worker.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Because there's so short stuff that you can actually designate
a family or friend and they'll pay for it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's worth checking out.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah. No, and I'm also her healthcare proxy.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh then it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I feel like it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I get to pull the plug.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, well that's what healthcare.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, I mean that, I mean I'm the one that's started.
I mean, obviously, do.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You have a dn R.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah? I think yeah, no, really, after I know my
their mom, my grandmother, did my mom's mom?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You say, I feel like when you're like old old.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, she's already. I mean she's close to seventy.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's old. I don't know what do you sit next
to every day?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
True, there's different levels of seventy you know what I mean. No,
but I don't know what she has. I know if
they said that it wouldn't help her to put her
on a ventilator or something, then we would not do that.
I know that I'll have to verbally or like legally
sign off, and I obviously would be a feeling decision
and I would just be the one that has to
officially do it. But I just confirm with my mom,
(02:26):
like what do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah? Why why are you the proxy and not your mom?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
So my mom has four sisters, two of them are single.
Growing up, they were like our second and third moms,
and they have obviously no kids, they have no nextilican.
It's basically us, so we kind of my parents obviously
have the four of us, and obviously they have each
other first and then the four of us, So it
just kind of was defaulted that, Like my little sister
(02:51):
has one of my aunts, I have one of my aunts,
Like we're it's just kind of like went that way.
My mom and my dad have to worry about each other,
so it's just kind of and they're all within like
a year or two of each other. Like my mom
like was one of thirteen in fifteen years, so there's
really like so sixty seven, sixty eight, sixty, like you
know what I mean, Like there's everyone's around the same age.
(03:13):
So it's like if something were to happen to them
in their early eighties, they're all gonna be in the
early eighties. So it should be you know, people that
are probably more sound of mine, I guess.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But yeah, my mom is one of ten. Yeah, same thing,
all born within a year of each other. Yeah, and yeah,
you think about how did they do that? Well, I
don't know the time the age difference on your mom's kids,
but for my mom.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And my mom were on the same age, I believe.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, but the way that worked is like when the
younger kids came, the older kids were old enough to
help take care of them.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Oh oh yeah, well my mom is number eleven out
of thirteen. So by the time, I mean the old
like the old there're seven brothers that were older than
mom and then just one younger brother. So all the
brothers they were by the time my mom was like,
you know, they were already you know, and they left
the house earlier then like there you would lead the
house at eighteen.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I know, and it's so funny. My mom was at
my house last night and she was talking about this.
I had known about it that. You know, times were
different back then. They didn't wear seatbelts and they didn't
have car seats for children. So they had family and
Melanoch at Maine. I used to go there to when
I was a kid, six hours away in Maine. It's
like it's way up on the border of Canada. But
(04:24):
when they were kids, they'd get in the station wagon
summer vacation and they would the ten kids. So twelve
people in a station wagon with all the kids sitting
on laps, no seatbelts, no car seats.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Drive all the way to main That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You never see that today, probably with the parents smoking
cigarettes with the windows up. I remember that as a
kid driving with my parents. They'd be like ripping butts
and I'd be like, open the window.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Wow, it's such an interesting life childhood.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Did your parents not smoke?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, my parents are. I mean, you know me, I
don't drink. My parents don't drink. They they don't smoke.
My dad went through a chewing tobacco phase a while ago.
He's in construction, so obviously a lot of guys do
it spitting? My mom My mom got my mom literally
like made a deal with him. She'd stopped butting his
nails if he stopped chewing tobacco. Guess who won that one?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Your mom.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
He's she's still butting his nails. He's not chewing tobacco.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Is was it? Was it dip or chewing dip? So
was he spitting?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah? He always had like a little bottle he had,
like the little he'd buy him in his work truck.
So great, like you're gonna get mouth cancer.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
My my dear friend Bobby surprised went totang with him. Yea,
my best friends I grew up with. He tells the
classic story when he quit doing dip. Okay, so he
started dipping, quit smoking, was doing the dip, and so
he would pack these huge lips okay, and when he'd
be by himself in the car, he'd go by. So
he had a thing where he was trying to quit
and he couldn't, but then he'd be like feening. So
this one day he gives in. He goes and gets
(05:55):
on a can, gets in his car by himself, packs
the fattest lip. Yeah, so his he describes it as
his lip was sticking out like three inches. It was
like disgustingly fat. You know, he was just you know, yeah,
and so he's dipping away.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He swallowed it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
No, he pulled up to a red light in traffic,
and so he's just sitting there with his bottle and
his big fat lips, spitting it out. Yeah, and he
just could feel someone was looking at him. So he
looks over and there was the hottest blonde girl next
to him staring at him with a look of absolute disgust,
and he literally threw the can in the trash. Good
(06:35):
for him, it's a really great I know it's grown.
My dad doesn't have many vices, but that's that's that.
He went through a phase with that. But again in construction,
they all did it, so you know my dad.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But anyways, actually we went last night, we went to
awake from all my dad's construction like boxes, you know. Yeah. Frank,
Frank Franello. He's like fifteen years older than my parents.
So growing up, you know, he was like he come
to like you know, the parties, and you know, we
get together, they come, you know, they come over for
lunch or we'd go up to their house, you know whatever.
So he's like eighty and so we, me and my
(07:09):
little sister want with my parents to go. It was
in Winchester. So we went and it's so interesting. My
dad just you know, yapping it up with all the
construction guys like they all and we were talking to
this one of the secretaries that worked for them, this lady,
beautiful older lady, talking about she heard this and her
working and this that and the third and all that,
and you know, being obviously back in the day, being
(07:31):
like one of the only women working, you know, in construction,
you know, even in the office. And so she's telling
me all these she's telling us all stuff. My dad
hadn't seen her in like twenty years, and she was saying, oh,
I did this and then I went to work here.
Her dad owned a big construction company in Marshall back
in the day. And then she did this, this and this,
and I go, so, when did you retire? She does, oh,
(07:52):
when I was seventy six. And I'm like, damn, well,
how long you've been retired? Because they don't ask grage,
she goes, well, be eighty one. This summer. I'm like,
oh my, she looked like sixty five. She would she
literally works as she was seventy six. She looks amazing,
she's in her early eighties. And I was just like,
you're a badass bitch because you were in construction. You
had like this whole career. All three of her sons
are in construction. Now they make money. They have a
(08:14):
construction company. Her husband was at the DPW pension. Abby Like,
I was just like, I need to go back to construction.
Remember I did that summer construction.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
What am I doing here telling you? Man?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I say it all the time when I was a kid.
I don't know who taught it to me, whether it
was teachers or parents or both, but I grew up
as a kid believing that the only way to be
successful and make money was to go to college, which
isn't not true. Yeah, but I was basically told that
jobs like plumbers, electricians, bus drivers, train operators were kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Blue collar and you couldn't really make money. Yeah. Guess what.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I have friends all in construction make more money than me.
They work for the MBTA driving the bus make more
money than me.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah. Okay, my mom met my dad at State Street
straight Strength the bank. Yeah, my mom worked there and
then my dad started working there around like trained him
for like a day and then end up going out whatever.
Within a couple months, my dad quit and went back
to construction. Reason he went into the bank is because
my grandfather his dad said, oh, you know, to be
a real man now. He was pained at my grandfather.
(09:18):
I don't know why he said this, that my dad
needed to go wear a suit and tie to work.
My dad did that. My mom was like, yeah, you
got to go back to construction so you can make
more money, because like he made way more on any construction.
And then after a while she stayed home and that's
that was our sole income was construction. They raised four
kids on one income. And does your dad do the
actual physical work. No, he's a project manager. Yeah, he's
(09:41):
a project manager.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Because it ruined your body.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, And honestly, my dad kind of has like a
shitty body anyways, bad knees, bad elbows, whatever. I mean,
he obviously he's helping guys moves or whatever. But he's
always been management. He's never been like a union or
anything like that. He's been superintendent, you know, project manager, estimator,
all like the paperwork side of it. My dad didn't
go to college. He got he ended up being like
asociate's degree in something. But my dad's so smart, looks
(10:05):
at blueprints and can eyeball how much a job it's
going to cost and all this shit. He's not you
wouldn't call him a mathematician, but he can do fucking
math to figure out how much is going to cost
and what he needs for labor and for and for
materials and all this shit. It's a different type of
smart when you're in that type of business. My dad's
working with engineering people and all this and whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So no no student loans.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No student loans, and he put four kids through college.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah you know.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh that's why I'm not. I'm going to encourage my
son and daughter to go to college if they want,
but it's not going to remain well.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I also think with abel his you know, add adhd
and stuff. I think for him it would be get
useful to look into things that are not necessarily book
smart type jobs. Yeah, because do you guys have a
voked tech up where you live in sale vocational school
gave it in the area.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Most schools, at least in the region have one. Yeah,
go there you can. You know, people go and they
learn automotive or construction or something and they come out.
My cousin did that. He's only twenty five, twenty four.
He went to I think it was Blue Hills Regional
or one of them down he's from Abington and he
ended up knowing how to do HBAC by eighteen and
now he's becoming a plumber and he's twenty four. As
(11:13):
far as for his house, yeah, he probably he'll make
he's probably making about what I make and then he'll
make way more than me and he's only twenty four.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
My friend Alan the plumber, he just got his plumbing
license and he makes around the same money that I make.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yep. Yeah, with no student loans.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
It's crazy that pension too.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The pension's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Really, what are we talking about today? We're just just
shooting the ship, just shoot what we do on this podcast.
I know we really do just mumble and jumble.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, well what do you want? What do you want
us to talk about?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, the thing with us is the after show is
supposed to be the companion piece to the show, right,
And that's fine and should we be talking about the show, probably,
but we just did a four hour show.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't want to talk about the show, no offense.
I don't want to talk about cold Play. I don't
give a fuck about cold Play.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well Coldplay's fine, They're.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Fine, but we talked about so much. I have nothing
to say about I actually am going tomorrow though. If
you guys are going to cold Play, I will be
there from four to six. I'm going to so no,
I'm going to. I'm hosting the three party.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's the second time recently that you've done that. Yeah,
and they can't get tickets to the show.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, honestly, I really the last show was who was it?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh it was it was the weekend?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yes, yeah, I don't really care about that, and I
like the weekend, but I like old school weekends, like
I really, you know. And then cold Play. I don't
really care about this and I don't mind going. I
do love the closest. Did you let than to anybody
else here?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Lord knows, I'm not going, so, I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's only two hours. I'll pop in mile, take some pictures,
hang out with people. Will be fun. So if you're
in the area, come down. See me, will chat. I'll
tell you all justin sturdy secrets.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Listen, I'm an open book. I've told most of my
secrets most pretty much all of them.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Not all.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm just saying, I know, Okay, before weekend, do you
want to know I've reached a new level of thirsty.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Not with the guy what's his name? Cal call deficit guy.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You're not ready for this new development that I'm about
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I haven't heard this yet.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You haven't heard it. This is fresh off the boat.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Why are we getting cameras in here so they can
see here discussed?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, I know, I know I'm a sick individual, but
it comes from a good place. Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
By the way, Lynn back messaged me yesterday saying that
she's rubbing off on you. You Lynn balked him you
knew the kid's name and the wife's name.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah that's true. Okay, So I told the whole story yesterday.
How I texted him? I told that?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So in a little while, I'm interviewing Brent from Shiny.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yes, he's a guy with the long hair right and
the beard.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I think, No, that's the druma Zach. Maybe No, he's
the thing. He's got short hair. He's the lead singer.
They did our Cats Coming.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
They were nice guys.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
So they haven't shown. So there, lou is there. What
is the manager tour?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
They're doing the Garden Saturday, but they that's the first
show in this new leg of their tour and they're
kicking it off in Boston, so they came early to
do rehearsals. So they're coming in whatever, it's gonna be great.
We're gonna run a bunch of on the show and
on the countdown all that. So I wake up this
morning at three am, and my guy is posting away
because he gets up at midnight, remember, and when he
(14:22):
gets when he posts these videos of him working out
at one in the morning, he always uses like nineties
to early two thousands.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Of rocks, so playing shine down, hold.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
On, hold on.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So by chance, Whinnie, I'm watching as I get the
morning routine. I wake up, I brush my teeth, I
get ready, and then I checked my Instagram for fifty
to watch his video, right, but you check for him.
He's the first one that pops up on my thing. Yeah,
he's a first one. Fuck yeah. Okay, So I'm checking
this morning and I see that he's using two different
(14:51):
sounds shine Down songs in his videos. Right squatting there
is right. This is at one am. So I thought
to myself, Wow, what are the chances. So when Brent
comes in in a little while, I'm gonna do the
interview and Brent's great, We're gonna do great.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And then I'm gonna ask him for.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
A small favor. I'm gonna say, Brent, I met one
of my heroes this past weekend and now we're texting.
He lives in New York and he's a big fan
of Shinedown. I mean, look at his videos from one am.
He gets up at midnight, he works out. I'm gonna
show him the two Shindown songs he's using. On any
chance a quick video, I'll this video just say what's
up to him? You know, Hey, it's Brent from Shindown.
(15:30):
Thanks for thank for being a motivator a motivator, and
thanks for using our music.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
You're so annoying.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm gonna take a video and then I'm gonna text
it to my guy Boom.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
This is stalker level. He might think this is weird.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
No, that's fine. He'll be appreciate.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Imagine if fifty Cow was a girl.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, no, I met his whole family.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I'm saying you couldn't do this if she was Oh no,
I know if fifty and I'm saying that not a
sexual way, like you really were inspired by a woman
who was like doing the same thing as him, right,
you would be.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's really fun. It's funny to me because this is
so not me.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's just the fact that this guy who I would
never ever meet, like he's just a kind on Instagram
that I like. But the fact that he came to
Boston randomly and then I was able to go meet
him and his family, and then he gave me his number,
and then I texted him and he texted me back,
and I'm like, you know, you're in part.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
With the girls that steal the salads.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right, We'll keep you updated on what happens there.
All right, have a great day, everybody,
Okay, what do you know another after show coming your
way on a Tuesday. Hi, everybody, justin Whinnie And yeah,
the after show you can now leave talkbacks on.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I don't think we talk enough about that, we don't.
I think we.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Started to when it first launched a few weeks ago,
but people may have forgotten.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
That's one on vacation, went on vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, but yeah, if you listen to this podcast, maybe
you listen to it other than iHeart. You have to
be on iHeart to leave the talkback so you can
consume it anywhere. He needs me on iHeart to leave
it talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But why not Heart? It's free to download, free to use.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know what, you might start using the iHeart iHeart
and then you'll might like it better.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, you know, give it a go.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, And yesterday we were talking about Winnie being a
caretaker for her aunt. Her aunt is moving into her building. Yeah,
and she's not like disabled or she is disabled.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I would not like help. She needs extra help.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And it was actually shocking to me that you know
you are gonna help regardless, But it was shocking to
me that you didn't know that you could possibly get paid,
like as a work.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I did know that, but I don't think for her
she's going to qualify for that.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You might want to check it out. Hey, guys, this
is Nelson for the AMNICA in the public.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I was listening and when they were talking, Whenning sorry
was talking about her aunt living in her conflicts and
if her insurance.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So, if she has benefits for hotal health care home
health AIDS, she could definitely apply to become her aunt's
specific particular case worker.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Because there's so short stuff that you can actually designate
a family or friend and they'll pay for it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's worth checking out.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah. No, and I'm also her healthcare proxy.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh then it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I feel like it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I get to pull the plug.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, well that's what healthcare.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, I mean that, I mean I'm the one that's started.
I mean, obviously, do.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You have a dn R.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah? I think yeah, no, really, after I know my
their mom, my grandmother, did my mom's mom?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You say, I feel like when you're like old old.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, she's already. I mean she's close to seventy.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's old. I don't know what do you sit next
to every day?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
True, there's different levels of seventy you know what I mean. No,
but I don't know what she has. I know if
they said that it wouldn't help her to put her
on a ventilator or something, then we would not do that.
I know that I'll have to verbally or like legally
sign off, and I obviously would be a feeling decision
and I would just be the one that has to
officially do it. But I just confirm with my mom,
(02:26):
like what do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah? Why why are you the proxy and not your mom?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
So my mom has four sisters, two of them are single.
Growing up, they were like our second and third moms,
and they have obviously no kids, they have no nextilican.
It's basically us, so we kind of my parents obviously
have the four of us, and obviously they have each
other first and then the four of us, So it
just kind of was defaulted that, Like my little sister
(02:51):
has one of my aunts, I have one of my aunts,
Like we're it's just kind of like went that way.
My mom and my dad have to worry about each other,
so it's just kind of and they're all within like
a year or two of each other. Like my mom
like was one of thirteen in fifteen years, so there's
really like so sixty seven, sixty eight, sixty, like you
know what I mean, Like there's everyone's around the same age.
(03:13):
So it's like if something were to happen to them
in their early eighties, they're all gonna be in the
early eighties. So it should be you know, people that
are probably more sound of mine, I guess.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But yeah, my mom is one of ten. Yeah, same thing,
all born within a year of each other. Yeah, and yeah,
you think about how did they do that? Well, I
don't know the time the age difference on your mom's kids,
but for my mom.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And my mom were on the same age, I believe.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, but the way that worked is like when the
younger kids came, the older kids were old enough to
help take care of them.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Oh oh yeah, well my mom is number eleven out
of thirteen. So by the time, I mean the old
like the old there're seven brothers that were older than
mom and then just one younger brother. So all the
brothers they were by the time my mom was like,
you know, they were already you know, and they left
the house earlier then like there you would lead the
house at eighteen.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I know, and it's so funny. My mom was at
my house last night and she was talking about this.
I had known about it that. You know, times were
different back then. They didn't wear seatbelts and they didn't
have car seats for children. So they had family and
Melanoch at Maine. I used to go there to when
I was a kid, six hours away in Maine. It's
like it's way up on the border of Canada. But
(04:24):
when they were kids, they'd get in the station wagon
summer vacation and they would the ten kids. So twelve
people in a station wagon with all the kids sitting
on laps, no seatbelts, no car seats.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Drive all the way to main That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You never see that today, probably with the parents smoking
cigarettes with the windows up. I remember that as a
kid driving with my parents. They'd be like ripping butts
and I'd be like, open the window.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Wow, it's such an interesting life childhood.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Did your parents not smoke?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, my parents are. I mean, you know me, I
don't drink. My parents don't drink. They they don't smoke.
My dad went through a chewing tobacco phase a while ago.
He's in construction, so obviously a lot of guys do
it spitting? My mom My mom got my mom literally
like made a deal with him. She'd stopped butting his
nails if he stopped chewing tobacco. Guess who won that one?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Your mom.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
He's she's still butting his nails. He's not chewing tobacco.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Is was it? Was it dip or chewing dip? So
was he spitting?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah? He always had like a little bottle he had,
like the little he'd buy him in his work truck.
So great, like you're gonna get mouth cancer.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
My my dear friend Bobby surprised went totang with him. Yea,
my best friends I grew up with. He tells the
classic story when he quit doing dip. Okay, so he
started dipping, quit smoking, was doing the dip, and so
he would pack these huge lips okay, and when he'd
be by himself in the car, he'd go by. So
he had a thing where he was trying to quit
and he couldn't, but then he'd be like feening. So
this one day he gives in. He goes and gets
(05:55):
on a can, gets in his car by himself, packs
the fattest lip. Yeah, so his he describes it as
his lip was sticking out like three inches. It was
like disgustingly fat. You know, he was just you know, yeah,
and so he's dipping away.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He swallowed it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
No, he pulled up to a red light in traffic,
and so he's just sitting there with his bottle and
his big fat lips, spitting it out. Yeah, and he
just could feel someone was looking at him. So he
looks over and there was the hottest blonde girl next
to him staring at him with a look of absolute disgust,
and he literally threw the can in the trash. Good
(06:35):
for him, it's a really great I know it's grown.
My dad doesn't have many vices, but that's that's that.
He went through a phase with that. But again in construction,
they all did it, so you know my dad.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But anyways, actually we went last night, we went to
awake from all my dad's construction like boxes, you know. Yeah. Frank,
Frank Franello. He's like fifteen years older than my parents.
So growing up, you know, he was like he come
to like you know, the parties, and you know, we
get together, they come, you know, they come over for
lunch or we'd go up to their house, you know whatever.
So he's like eighty and so we, me and my
(07:09):
little sister want with my parents to go. It was
in Winchester. So we went and it's so interesting. My
dad just you know, yapping it up with all the
construction guys like they all and we were talking to
this one of the secretaries that worked for them, this lady,
beautiful older lady, talking about she heard this and her
working and this that and the third and all that,
and you know, being obviously back in the day, being
(07:31):
like one of the only women working, you know, in construction,
you know, even in the office. And so she's telling
me all these she's telling us all stuff. My dad
hadn't seen her in like twenty years, and she was saying, oh,
I did this and then I went to work here.
Her dad owned a big construction company in Marshall back
in the day. And then she did this, this and this,
and I go, so, when did you retire? She does, oh,
(07:52):
when I was seventy six. And I'm like, damn, well,
how long you've been retired? Because they don't ask grage,
she goes, well, be eighty one. This summer. I'm like,
oh my, she looked like sixty five. She would she
literally works as she was seventy six. She looks amazing,
she's in her early eighties. And I was just like,
you're a badass bitch because you were in construction. You
had like this whole career. All three of her sons
are in construction. Now they make money. They have a
(08:14):
construction company. Her husband was at the DPW pension. Abby Like,
I was just like, I need to go back to construction.
Remember I did that summer construction.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
What am I doing here telling you? Man?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I say it all the time when I was a kid.
I don't know who taught it to me, whether it
was teachers or parents or both, but I grew up
as a kid believing that the only way to be
successful and make money was to go to college, which
isn't not true. Yeah, but I was basically told that
jobs like plumbers, electricians, bus drivers, train operators were kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Blue collar and you couldn't really make money. Yeah. Guess what.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I have friends all in construction make more money than me.
They work for the MBTA driving the bus make more
money than me.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah. Okay, my mom met my dad at State Street
straight Strength the bank. Yeah, my mom worked there and
then my dad started working there around like trained him
for like a day and then end up going out whatever.
Within a couple months, my dad quit and went back
to construction. Reason he went into the bank is because
my grandfather his dad said, oh, you know, to be
a real man now. He was pained at my grandfather.
(09:18):
I don't know why he said this, that my dad
needed to go wear a suit and tie to work.
My dad did that. My mom was like, yeah, you
got to go back to construction so you can make
more money, because like he made way more on any construction.
And then after a while she stayed home and that's
that was our sole income was construction. They raised four
kids on one income. And does your dad do the
actual physical work. No, he's a project manager. Yeah, he's
(09:41):
a project manager.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Because it ruined your body.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, And honestly, my dad kind of has like a
shitty body anyways, bad knees, bad elbows, whatever. I mean,
he obviously he's helping guys moves or whatever. But he's
always been management. He's never been like a union or
anything like that. He's been superintendent, you know, project manager, estimator,
all like the paperwork side of it. My dad didn't
go to college. He got he ended up being like
asociate's degree in something. But my dad's so smart, looks
(10:05):
at blueprints and can eyeball how much a job it's
going to cost and all this shit. He's not you
wouldn't call him a mathematician, but he can do fucking
math to figure out how much is going to cost
and what he needs for labor and for and for
materials and all this shit. It's a different type of
smart when you're in that type of business. My dad's
working with engineering people and all this and whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So no no student loans.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No student loans, and he put four kids through college.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah you know.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh that's why I'm not. I'm going to encourage my
son and daughter to go to college if they want,
but it's not going to remain well.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I also think with abel his you know, add adhd
and stuff. I think for him it would be get
useful to look into things that are not necessarily book
smart type jobs. Yeah, because do you guys have a
voked tech up where you live in sale vocational school
gave it in the area.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Most schools, at least in the region have one. Yeah,
go there you can. You know, people go and they
learn automotive or construction or something and they come out.
My cousin did that. He's only twenty five, twenty four.
He went to I think it was Blue Hills Regional
or one of them down he's from Abington and he
ended up knowing how to do HBAC by eighteen and
now he's becoming a plumber and he's twenty four. As
(11:13):
far as for his house, yeah, he probably he'll make
he's probably making about what I make and then he'll
make way more than me and he's only twenty four.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
My friend Alan the plumber, he just got his plumbing
license and he makes around the same money that I make.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yep. Yeah, with no student loans.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
It's crazy that pension too.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The pension's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Really, what are we talking about today? We're just just
shooting the ship, just shoot what we do on this podcast.
I know we really do just mumble and jumble.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, well what do you want? What do you want
us to talk about?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, the thing with us is the after show is
supposed to be the companion piece to the show, right,
And that's fine and should we be talking about the show, probably,
but we just did a four hour show.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't want to talk about the show, no offense.
I don't want to talk about cold Play. I don't
give a fuck about cold Play.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well Coldplay's fine, They're.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Fine, but we talked about so much. I have nothing
to say about I actually am going tomorrow though. If
you guys are going to cold Play, I will be
there from four to six. I'm going to so no,
I'm going to. I'm hosting the three party.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's the second time recently that you've done that. Yeah,
and they can't get tickets to the show.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, honestly, I really the last show was who was it?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh it was it was the weekend?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yes, yeah, I don't really care about that, and I
like the weekend, but I like old school weekends, like
I really, you know. And then cold Play. I don't
really care about this and I don't mind going. I
do love the closest. Did you let than to anybody
else here?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Lord knows, I'm not going, so, I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's only two hours. I'll pop in mile, take some pictures,
hang out with people. Will be fun. So if you're
in the area, come down. See me, will chat. I'll
tell you all justin sturdy secrets.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Listen, I'm an open book. I've told most of my
secrets most pretty much all of them.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Not all.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm just saying, I know, Okay, before weekend, do you
want to know I've reached a new level of thirsty.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Not with the guy what's his name? Cal call deficit guy.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You're not ready for this new development that I'm about
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I haven't heard this yet.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You haven't heard it. This is fresh off the boat.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Why are we getting cameras in here so they can
see here discussed?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, I know, I know I'm a sick individual, but
it comes from a good place. Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
By the way, Lynn back messaged me yesterday saying that
she's rubbing off on you. You Lynn balked him you
knew the kid's name and the wife's name.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah that's true. Okay, So I told the whole story yesterday.
How I texted him? I told that?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So in a little while, I'm interviewing Brent from Shiny.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yes, he's a guy with the long hair right and
the beard.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I think, No, that's the druma Zach. Maybe No, he's
the thing. He's got short hair. He's the lead singer.
They did our Cats Coming.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
They were nice guys.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
So they haven't shown. So there, lou is there. What
is the manager tour?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
They're doing the Garden Saturday, but they that's the first
show in this new leg of their tour and they're
kicking it off in Boston, so they came early to
do rehearsals. So they're coming in whatever, it's gonna be great.
We're gonna run a bunch of on the show and
on the countdown all that. So I wake up this
morning at three am, and my guy is posting away
because he gets up at midnight, remember, and when he
(14:22):
gets when he posts these videos of him working out
at one in the morning, he always uses like nineties
to early two thousands.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Of rocks, so playing shine down, hold.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
On, hold on.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So by chance, Whinnie, I'm watching as I get the
morning routine. I wake up, I brush my teeth, I
get ready, and then I checked my Instagram for fifty
to watch his video, right, but you check for him.
He's the first one that pops up on my thing. Yeah,
he's a first one. Fuck yeah. Okay, So I'm checking
this morning and I see that he's using two different
(14:51):
sounds shine Down songs in his videos. Right squatting there
is right. This is at one am. So I thought
to myself, Wow, what are the chances. So when Brent
comes in in a little while, I'm gonna do the
interview and Brent's great, We're gonna do great.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And then I'm gonna ask him for.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
A small favor. I'm gonna say, Brent, I met one
of my heroes this past weekend and now we're texting.
He lives in New York and he's a big fan
of Shinedown. I mean, look at his videos from one am.
He gets up at midnight, he works out. I'm gonna
show him the two Shindown songs he's using. On any
chance a quick video, I'll this video just say what's
up to him? You know, Hey, it's Brent from Shindown.
(15:30):
Thanks for thank for being a motivator a motivator, and
thanks for using our music.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
You're so annoying.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm gonna take a video and then I'm gonna text
it to my guy Boom.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
This is stalker level. He might think this is weird.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
No, that's fine. He'll be appreciate.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Imagine if fifty Cow was a girl.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, no, I met his whole family.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I'm saying you couldn't do this if she was Oh no,
I know if fifty and I'm saying that not a
sexual way, like you really were inspired by a woman
who was like doing the same thing as him, right,
you would be.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's really fun. It's funny to me because this is
so not me.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's just the fact that this guy who I would
never ever meet, like he's just a kind on Instagram
that I like. But the fact that he came to
Boston randomly and then I was able to go meet
him and his family, and then he gave me his number,
and then I texted him and he texted me back,
and I'm like, you know, you're in part.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
With the girls that steal the salads.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right, We'll keep you updated on what happens there.
All right, have a great day, everybody,
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