September 5, 2025 • 5 mins
The show talks about the top show on Netflix right now, Unknown Number: The High School Catfish.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's kind of two sides of the story. The one
side is we've been covering this on the news for
a while now, and then Chelsea watched this documentary on Netflix.
That is I think that's the number one thing on
Netflix right now, a known number.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Everyone's talking about it.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It follows the shocking case of Kendra Lacari. That's a
mom who catfished her own teenage daughter. Starting in twenty
twenty one, she used anonymous apps to send hundreds of
cruel and explicit text.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
To her daughter, Lauren and Lauren's boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Owen it happened here, having in Michigan, having Beal City,
Michigan in our back, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Is like close to Mount Pleasant, the Mount Pleasant area.
And by the way, when this was going down, this
girl was like and her boyfriend, we're like thirteen years old.
We're not even talking like eighteen year old seniors in
high school or college age. I mean, these are like
very young kids. And she would send sometimes up to
forty messages.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
A day, but not just the boyfriend of her daughter to.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The daughter, the daughter and telling her to harm herself.
That's at an age where that legitimately could have happened.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
What would you have done, and she used she used
her daughter's nickname low, which made the girl think it
was someone close to that. Yes, you know that they knew,
but you know, the mother basically is claiming what that
she was just trying to keep her Oh I know,
there's no logic to it, but trying to keep her
daughter one from not being so obsessed with this guy,
(01:30):
and two almost making it her more dependent on her,
which is like the bought it.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It does sound like that. But what she should go
with is I'm completely insane. Yeah, that's what she should
go with.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think they're calling it like cyber Munchhausen by proxy
or something like that, right, right, Yeah, that would make sense.
And she like they had to get the FBI involved
because I guess they couldn't trace back this number and
it was getting so bad and so the FBI got involved.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So did the mom have a burner phone?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't remember the exact detail about that, but I
do feel really bad. There was one girl who went
to school with them. So this is like a really
small town. Everyone knows everyone, and there was this one
girl who was really good friends with Owen the boy,
and somehow everyone started thinking that this girl who was
(02:23):
a classmate was the one sending all of these messages,
and so she was under fire for a long time,
getting ruined. It was, and all along it was the mom.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
The mom went to jail for. Was it like nineteen months. Yeah.
Lauren is now eighteen years old.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
She's graduated, so they say she's closer to her father
now obviously stayed in contact with her mom during prison,
says I love her more than anything.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I just want her to get the help that she needs.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And I the want justice person and in me and
all of us wants her to be mad at her
like and never see her again.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Did do you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
But I just remember, well I don't even need to
be that age, but specifically at that age, like my
mom was my twelve thirteen eleven for I mean, my
mom was everything right, like short of like you know,
she probably could have chopped my arm off and I'd
still be like.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Uh, I need my mom. So I get I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know, we're always told whenever you hear any crazy
story and you try to put yourself in that position
or try to think like that person, it's the worst
thing you can do. It's the same with suicide when
you always go I don't understand. If it was me,
I would get but you can't. You can't be in
someone else's mind. But I got to tell you, like
when you think about when you have a kid, and
you think about the things that upset your kids, like
I've talked about before, you know, the time when my
(03:45):
daughter was little and I don't know, being excluded from
a lunch table seat or something stupid and like trying
to fire up being like you know, you tell me
you're lost. You don't need like little things like that
that infuriate a parent, like I can't imagine being inflicts
it to inflict.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But not here.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I mean to basically say you should kill yourself and
that you're ugly, like even if your intent, even mentally,
if your intentions are to get your kid closer, like
how do you know that?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's how do you know? And how do you do that?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And also what you did was bad enough, But what
if she had actually done well exactly and then your
daughter's not even here anymore because of your own words.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, I don't it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I mean, not that it would have been acceptable for
her to have just done it to the boy, but
you might have at least understood that, like, I'm just
trying to make this boy go away.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, and they eventually broke up, right, Yeah, it says
they broke up hoping that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Harassment would stop, and it just got worse.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's just it's just, well, you're so sad your thirteen
year old relationships usually don't they don't, but me and
Billy Broch, who didn't make it into ninth grade, got them.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'm sure you haven't forgotten a minute of that breakup.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, it was nothing in comparison with Matt.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't even know if I think.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
It just was a thing that was like, well, I'm
going to school over here, now, see you down by
the lake next summer.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know how that is? I it is, see you later.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Billy.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Remember when Daniel Wesler told the whole school bus if
she had to marry somebody because they were playing that game,
what is it married from marry me.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Like that the other one? Huh? All right? Did you
get that? All right,
There's kind of two sides of the story. The one
side is we've been covering this on the news for
a while now, and then Chelsea watched this documentary on Netflix.
That is I think that's the number one thing on
Netflix right now, a known number.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Everyone's talking about it.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It follows the shocking case of Kendra Lacari. That's a
mom who catfished her own teenage daughter. Starting in twenty
twenty one, she used anonymous apps to send hundreds of
cruel and explicit text.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
To her daughter, Lauren and Lauren's boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Owen it happened here, having in Michigan, having Beal City,
Michigan in our back, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Is like close to Mount Pleasant, the Mount Pleasant area.
And by the way, when this was going down, this
girl was like and her boyfriend, we're like thirteen years old.
We're not even talking like eighteen year old seniors in
high school or college age. I mean, these are like
very young kids. And she would send sometimes up to
forty messages.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
A day, but not just the boyfriend of her daughter to.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The daughter, the daughter and telling her to harm herself.
That's at an age where that legitimately could have happened.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
What would you have done, and she used she used
her daughter's nickname low, which made the girl think it
was someone close to that. Yes, you know that they knew,
but you know, the mother basically is claiming what that
she was just trying to keep her Oh I know,
there's no logic to it, but trying to keep her
daughter one from not being so obsessed with this guy,
(01:30):
and two almost making it her more dependent on her,
which is like the bought it.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It does sound like that. But what she should go
with is I'm completely insane. Yeah, that's what she should
go with.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think they're calling it like cyber Munchhausen by proxy
or something like that, right, right, Yeah, that would make sense.
And she like they had to get the FBI involved
because I guess they couldn't trace back this number and
it was getting so bad and so the FBI got involved.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So did the mom have a burner phone?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't remember the exact detail about that, but I
do feel really bad. There was one girl who went
to school with them. So this is like a really
small town. Everyone knows everyone, and there was this one
girl who was really good friends with Owen the boy,
and somehow everyone started thinking that this girl who was
(02:23):
a classmate was the one sending all of these messages,
and so she was under fire for a long time,
getting ruined. It was, and all along it was the mom.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
The mom went to jail for. Was it like nineteen months. Yeah.
Lauren is now eighteen years old.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
She's graduated, so they say she's closer to her father
now obviously stayed in contact with her mom during prison,
says I love her more than anything.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I just want her to get the help that she needs.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And I the want justice person and in me and
all of us wants her to be mad at her
like and never see her again.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Did do you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
But I just remember, well I don't even need to
be that age, but specifically at that age, like my
mom was my twelve thirteen eleven for I mean, my
mom was everything right, like short of like you know,
she probably could have chopped my arm off and I'd
still be like.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Uh, I need my mom. So I get I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know, we're always told whenever you hear any crazy
story and you try to put yourself in that position
or try to think like that person, it's the worst
thing you can do. It's the same with suicide when
you always go I don't understand. If it was me,
I would get but you can't. You can't be in
someone else's mind. But I got to tell you, like
when you think about when you have a kid, and
you think about the things that upset your kids, like
I've talked about before, you know, the time when my
(03:45):
daughter was little and I don't know, being excluded from
a lunch table seat or something stupid and like trying
to fire up being like you know, you tell me
you're lost. You don't need like little things like that
that infuriate a parent, like I can't imagine being inflicts
it to inflict.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But not here.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I mean to basically say you should kill yourself and
that you're ugly, like even if your intent, even mentally,
if your intentions are to get your kid closer, like
how do you know that?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's how do you know? And how do you do that?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And also what you did was bad enough, But what
if she had actually done well exactly and then your
daughter's not even here anymore because of your own words.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, I don't it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I mean, not that it would have been acceptable for
her to have just done it to the boy, but
you might have at least understood that, like, I'm just
trying to make this boy go away.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, and they eventually broke up, right, Yeah, it says
they broke up hoping that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Harassment would stop, and it just got worse.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's just it's just, well, you're so sad your thirteen
year old relationships usually don't they don't, but me and
Billy Broch, who didn't make it into ninth grade, got them.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'm sure you haven't forgotten a minute of that breakup.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, it was nothing in comparison with Matt.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't even know if I think.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
It just was a thing that was like, well, I'm
going to school over here, now, see you down by
the lake next summer.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know how that is? I it is, see you later.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Billy.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Remember when Daniel Wesler told the whole school bus if
she had to marry somebody because they were playing that game,
what is it married from marry me.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Like that the other one? Huh? All right? Did you
get that? All right,
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