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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, just mo Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
On the morning show yesterday, I went around the room
and asked everybody how their Christmas was, And I didn't
get a chance to get to the newest member of
the show, Anna, which honestly, I want to get to
know more because I feel like I don't know Anna
rob who's new member of the show. I feel like
I don't know what her traditions are and things like that.
I know that she lives downtown Detroit. Her family's out
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in the suburbs in White Lake. I got a chance
to meet before the holidays, her mom and her sister
and family and stuff, her grandpa, Pops.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What did you tell me about your Christmas? What did
you do for Christmas?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So I don't really have a Christmas tradition. I mean
growing up, we did, like we would always do something
new or on Christmas even stuff like that. But now
that I'm getting older and I don't have a family,
my sister has her own family. I just I don't
have a tradition. But I would say by nature, I
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tend to be I get drained in so sets like
I don't know if I'm an introvert, an introverted extrovert
but if it's like a big social setting like a
Christmas party, I get very drained having to talk to
all these people. So I'm single, I have no kids.
My parents really would like me to spend Christmas, even
Christmas with them, but knowing my boundaries this year, I
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was like, I have to pick one or the other.
I just I don't want to. I don't think like
mentally I can do two big days of a lot
of people, a lot of questions all the time. So
I ended up on Christmas Day just staying home. I
had one of my friends come over who doesn't have
a lot of family, and we DoorDash some really like
gross food. We watched Heated Rivalry. If anyone watched that,
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it's a good show and it was amazing. But I
did have this like immense sense of guilt because I
think my family knows that I don't have anyone, so
it's kind of like they expect me to just be
there because what else would you do? You don't have kids,
you don't have a boyfriend. Why wouldn't you come here?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So let me let me try to get this, uh
this right. Your typical Christmas would have been that you
would stay at your mom's house, sleep overnight or that's
what they.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Would like me to do, but I wouldn't. I would
have went home. I just I don't like not sleeping
in my bed. But I typically would have went there
for Christmas Eve, done all of the Christmas Eve stuff,
went home, slept in Detroit, then drove back the next
morning and done Christmas Day with it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Which is like a forty five fifty minute drive.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
But this year I was like, I'm not going back
on Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
My mom, I.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Feel like it hurt her in her heart, but she
was saying it was fine. My dad on Christmas Eve,
after he had had a few drinks, literally told me
he was like, I'm gonna be upset if you don't
come here Christmas. And that just killed me because I
was like tried to guilt chand it. I feel so bad,
but like I also know I am a better person
if I in my head, I'll give you everything on
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Christmas Eve and then Christmas Day I need to recharge.
If I came back on Christmas Day, I would have
been pissed. I would have been sitting in the corner
like I don't want to talk to anyone. I don't
want to do anything, But for me, it was great,
Like I enjoyed it. I I really enjoyed my Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Do you think that they wanted you there because they
didn't want you to be alone. They were worried about
you being sad and everything, so they were doing it
out of goodness or do you think that they were
doing it because they were sad not having you there?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
They wanted you there?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I think I think they do think that I'm lonely.
Like my dad calls me all the time, He's like, what.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Are you doing?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Why aren't you hanging out with your friends?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Uh, because you've talked before and said that you're you
know that you want to find somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
In Yeah, there are instances where I think it would
be nice to have a partner, But I also, like,
I'm picky about who I give my energy to. So,
like I said, I knew that situation would drain me.
Like not that I don't love my family, my aunts
and uncles, but it's a lot to go there, especially
with like a new job. Everyone wants to ask me
a million questions and it's just too much.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You chose your Christmas Day. You were happy with your
Christmas I was happy with it.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
But I did just have that that guilt because my
dad literally told me I will be upset. I'm like,
I know he's upset, but I have to I have.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
To do this.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You know what actually is an interesting when you tell
stories like this, It makes me think my kids hate
me because I like want them there of Christmas, like
I want them with us and I you know, and
this year we didn't have all of us there. We
had before Christmas, we got everybody together, and it was
so nice to have the five of us together. And
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this is no offense to Joe's fiance Alyssa, but we
got an opportunity where it was just the core five.
And I think that maybe this is a perspective coming
from your parents, so you'll understand them a little bit.
You kind of makes you remember a little bit of
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the past and what it's like. And when when the
three boys are together, they're different than when others are around,
like they're they take the gloves off and they get
kind of wild. So I don't know, but it's funny
if they If so, if we were in the same home,
the same town, like I've got one in Chicago, one
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in Florida, and obviously lou come with us if we
were all in the same town and they were within
fifty minutes of me, and like if Luke said, Hey,
I'm going to East Lancy and I'm staying in East
Lancy for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It would break my heart. Yeah, great, I got we
be honest this.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Year with my sister. So, I'm the oldest of three girls.
I have a sister. My youngest sister lives in Berkeley.
She lives like ten minutes for me. I see her
all the time. I talked to her five times a day.
But my middle sister lives out of state and she
doesn't really celebrate holidays. So she spent Christmas Day without
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our not a part of our family, by herself. And
I had a really hard time with that, Like I
feel like your mom, Yeah, I felt like she's so lonely,
Like I wish she was selfishly. I wanted her to
be with the rest of the family, even though I
know and like, hearing you talk is actually really helpful
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to me. I know she was she made the choice.
She would if she wanted to come home, she would have.
She was very happy with what she was doing that day.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, but it is it's like it's.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Almost like a selfish thing for everybody else that we
want you there because we are worried about you, and
we think that you are lonely and we think you'd
be better off with the whole family.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
For sure, What would your family have done if I
invited you to my house and you came, and I
live fairly close to them, and you came to my
Christmas not there Christmas?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Would that have broken their heart?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Would you?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Would you have done that?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Because you're my boss and I'm like, noah, no, no, no, no,
would you want Would it be more fun for you
to go to something else? I mean maybe only because
I think a lot of attention is on me when
I'm in my house, in my space, because people know me.
If I'm like the new person and I can kind
of just like slide by and like enjoy the experience
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and not have to be the center of attention, that
would be different.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Do you think that any of this has anything to
do with maybe what your family's going through at this
moment too, because sometimes families go through a little bit
of turmoil, and you don't want any bit of that
in your life at this time. You're trying to do
if it's easier to ignore it by not being there.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Right, I think that that definitely plays a role in it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Because I was talking to our kids. Our kids were
brought up to us. They were like, do you remember
the Christmas when you hated dad?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know, and which Christmas was there?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But it's wild because when your parents are going through
a struggle, you know what I mean, and their relationship.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, the kids feel it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So I say this to you, whatever way you celebrated
Christmas is wonderful because it's what you wanted to do.
But you're just a little selfish for an against selfish
is okay?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Like at my age at thirty, like people are you
do usually have families and kids, So why am I
expected to be there forever every little thing when like
my sister divides her time, she does half with her
husband with her.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And she shouldn't be able to get away with it.
And you not right because just because she's a mother, beautiful,
beautiful woman. By the way, Hannah is hotter than her
sister kills.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Anna's a beautiful woman as well.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I mean, come on, sister is a very beautiful woman,
and Anna Anna's beautiful. What's going on? What's going to Chelsea?
This isn't my wife isn't yelling at me for saying that.
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
No? Happy New Year everyone, Happy New Year Year, Anna.
I definitely understand your your sympathies, I think, especially since
you're kind of on your own doing your own thing,
like make your own tradition, see your family if you
want to, you know, get into baking or something like
you have this one staple recipe that you're gonna evolve
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into making every year or do some out each or
something so you don't feel all these feelings you know
that's conflicting for you for the holidays, like donate your time,
you know, go to the children's hospital and spread joy
and gifts or find something that makes you happy because
at the end of the day, like you're always gonna
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love your family, but see you first.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, that's actually interesting that you say that. So we
have friends of ours and similar situation in to Danna
that their family is kind of you know, they struggle
with each other and she goes and does a Toys
for Tot's thing every year and gives the toys to
the families, and that gives her the joy because there's
no tension, there's kids excited and stuff like that, and
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so her family sometimes gets upset because that's an exhausting
day doing it, and she wants to go home then
and just watch a bunch of Christmas movies. I think
a lot of it is you're in is like Shannon said,
with her sister, you're in your Shannon's feeling is I
don't want my sister to be alone.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I want her to be you with me, and you
want to you want to be with our family.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And you want her to want You want everybody to
be happy, like you're you're a peacemaker and stuff, and
I think that's what your parents are going through.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
But what I said was and exactly what Anna said.
I know my sister was happy, like we facetimed her
and she was fine and she was excited to see
everybody was.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
She was good.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
It's just I think like I had come up with
a story in my brain of like she needs to
be here though I want, you know, I I selfishly
want VICKI, what's up?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Hey, how's it going? Happy New Year? Come on?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I have to say it.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
This is all day, yeah, or all day all morning.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
All right.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I was going to say that Anna's Christmas Day sounded
like bliss. I have the family, and I have never
spent a Christmas Eve or day fully at home ever
since I was a kid and the married so husband's
family Christmas Eve, my family Christmas Day, and I'm just like,
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you got to stay home all day.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Eat whatever I wanted, like it was chill. It was
so needed.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Yeah, yeah, my social battery is done. I need like
a full day sometimes two after Christmas to even like
think properly because it's just so much.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yes, and we have to be okay with people's different
definitions of what joy and happiness is. Not everybody's definition
looks like the family stone or a whovil around a
tree with a bunch of people singing. Some people's joyant
happiness looks like on the college Christmas morning, eating whatever
you want to eat, watching stranger things like do it
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makes you happy?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That part if you're if you're a depressing person, Michelle.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
How you doing?
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Good morning? Everyone?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I say this with love, I really do.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
From an old lady.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
I just feel like you're gonna regret this one day.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Life is short.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Your parents adore you.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
They want you to be there with them, and I
just can't rap my head around everyone saying, Oh, I
just I need the day by myself. You can have
every other day by yourself. It's it's two days of
the year that we need to celebrate and be.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
With our family.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
And I totally respect your boundaries and I get you
know that it can be a lot, but I just
don't want you to have that regret one day.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Then you didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Michelle.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I think that you're saying this from as Kevin calls
us old heads, because we're older and when when things
kind of change and we start losing family members and
stuff like that, you start going, Man, I wish that
I would have.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But I do think that there is part of.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Anna's you know, self preservation that does come into play here,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
So I don't know, we're we're you know her, and
I'm loving it, and you know, I just my yep,
my mama heart and my you know, losing like you said,
lots of loved ones.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
You just don't want to have that regret.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, I hear you, And I think she would have
come to my house if I would have to. She
would have come over and honestly, I would have taken
a million pictures and her mom would be you know,
like what he actually what I would have done? No,
this is crazy. This just shows me I'm an evil
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son of a bitch. I would have invited her over
and she would have showed up and go, is that
my dad's car, Anna's little nephews running around?
Speaker 7 (13:52):
God?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, I think it's I think it's I get what
you know. It's funny, is I get what you needed?
Because I can tell going into the holidays you needed that.
And the biggest thing, you know, you said this year,
your thing that you're doing for yourself is you're gonna
love yourself more. I think that's a great start of
loving yourself more, doing something that And to your mom
and your your dad and your sisters and nephews and
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all the rest of them, give her the opportunity to
do this, because I do think that when you when
you're a healthier you and a happier you, then you're
gonna go you know what, I'm gonna want to be
around my family and I want to be there and
then guess what, they're going to get the best of
you there we go, so it's my favorite fool Fighter song.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Let's do that rock yacht rock that would not be,
that would