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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, it is Mojo in the morning. keV has
a quick question before we move on to anything else.
You're out with two of your buddies. Yeah, and you
I need to know if you could ask one of
your buddies something that kind of made you think.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, so not the two people that I was out.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
So I'm out with some of homies yesterday and one
of my friends is openly gay and apparently he has
had an interaction with another one.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Of my friends. Pause, this is not Zach Marsham.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
No no, no, no, no, no no, it's not Zach get all,
and it's you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Wasn't there either. I went somewhere after I was with y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And so the openly gay homie told me that another
one of our friends, who is divorced, has a child
like came over to his house and they basically almost
had sex and has said that this person has kissed
him in the mouth before.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And in my mind is blown.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So I'm like, you're talking about blank and my mom
is like, I've never thought that this person's along that way.
So immediately I'm like, well, wow, like now I gotta know,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Like, and in my mind I'm like, like.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
You need to know if he's gay.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I feel like, because he's my friend, like I want
you to live your best life.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Right, he's And that was maybe where the conversation started
to go.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Did the friend that spoke out and said this thing
and realized he was outing him?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Saying?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Did he think you already knew because you were his friend?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
He didn't think I already knew.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But like the kissing thing happened in public, Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Everybody saw it.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Your question, Your question is should you just flat out
to ask him?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right? He was saying, you can't ask?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And then he also had like a deeper like psychology
behind it, saying that the guy doesn't view himself as gay. Interesting,
so his answer might not even be he doesn't even
though he does, you know gat.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So he so?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So he still views himself not being gay even though
he had a one time experience. Are you gay if
you have a one time experience? Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
I don't think so, because maybe you just try it
out and then you realize this is not for me.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I feel like that's gay's gay even wanting to do
it let alone.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
There are several people in my life that I wonder
if they are or aren't, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I could never ask.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Is it wrong to ask? Yeah, it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I when before Jacob came out, before our son came out,
I was always told by some of my closest friends,
do not ever ask him, like, don't ever ask him,
you know, if you know Jake, because he wasn't dating
at all, and we, you know, Chelsea and I both
knew that Jacob was gay, and we knew in due
(02:45):
time he was going to come out. I wanted him
to come out as soon as he wanted to, you know,
to come out, and I was hoping it was sooner
than later because I just don't want you don't want
him to have to feel like he has to exactly
you know, live a different life. But you should definitely
not say something to him, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So I want to help to your exactly like, because
if I say what I'm about to say, nothing's going
to change in that relationship. Then the question is, well,
why do you need to know it in the first place,
thathing's going to change? Because I want you to live
your best life. I want you to be happy being
who you are, and if for some reason you aren't, like,
let's get you there.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I think if you say something to him, it
may if he is gay, which you know, I mean
if if you have sex with a man, I think
that there's something going on there. I don't know if
you're necessarily but I but I would say, you don't
want him to go further into a closet because you
just asked him, you know, true, but.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I don't want him to have to live in the closet.
And maybe I'm obviously like, well, maybe he's not ready,
you know for that, And I get all of that.
I just want to I want you to see yourself
and no doubt, see you and appreciate you for who
you are.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Textures are texting in with interesting responses on this one.
Textures are texting in saying caveat you could uh, I
say that. Another texter says, cav don't come across homophobic. Uh,
And that would disappoint me because and then another person
texted in this is, uh, if you have sex with
(04:12):
a man, you are definitely gay.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I need to hear from someone who is living this though.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
That would actually be good, yes, Like if you're living
it where you are not out and your friends don't
know that you're out.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Or you recently came out or everyone has had this
experience because we can all say what we want, but none.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Of us think, in this case with Kevin's guy, that
if you're somebody that is not wanting people to know
what's going on, you're not going to be kissing another
guy in public.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like that's not gonna happen last alcohol?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Why for you for your specific situation. I almost wonder
if this guy is as close as a friend as
you say, if you if you tell him, hey, I
heard this story.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I I just want to let you like exactly what
you said.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I want you to be able to live your authentic
be your authentic self around me and like I am
a safe space for you, because in a lot of situations,
there isn't that that piece of the story.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Do you know what I mean? Where it's been seen
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Have you ever heard of guys being you know, like
girls bar sexual where they're they go to a bar,
they drink, you know, girls will kiss other girls and
a lot of people will say that they're I have
you ever seen guys do that at all? Because guys,
I would think, would be more frowned upon doing that
where girls it's like girls can pretty much be, you know,
like making out with other girls.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Emily, what's up. It's Mojo in the morning. Hi.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Hi, I'm a lesbian. So I thought I would call
in and kind of talk about the coming out experience
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We love that I'm not lesbian. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
So I think that something to remember is part of
the big one of the biggest things of coming out
is you have to be okay with yourself and being
gay first, before you're like, this is who I am. Everybody,
you want to be sure. And so if he's experimented,
not really sure, he could be gay, he could be
by pan not necessarily sure. He might just be kind
(06:08):
of trying to figure it out instead of maybe point
blank asking him if you just very outwardly share that
you support gay people and that you are supportive if
they are, that will give makes them feel a lot
more comfortable to then come to you and tell.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
You that on their own.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Emily, what do you think about him kissing another guy
in front of a bunch of people. If he's doing that,
don't you think he's got confidence that he is who
you know he is?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Maybe, but he could have been like drunk or something
I don't know, like the context necessarily, and like I
think of like, there are a lot of straight women
that kiss people at like parties and no one accuses
them of being a lesbian.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm telling you, I was just saying that just a
second ago.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm like, it seems like such a double standard whenever
that happens.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Like you can return something to Nordstrom for ninety days,
you can kiss someone and not be gay.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, all right, opinions, Well, yeah, you're awesome, we love you, Ami, Thanks,
thanks so much for the calling.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
What's up, Heather? How you doing?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (07:09):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (07:13):
I was just gonna kind of make the same point
that there's such a double standard.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
If a man has sex with another man, then he's
automatically gay, But if a woman does the same thing
with a woman, then we're like, oh, but she might
not be lesbian.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, no, like there definitely is more of a grace.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, so if Shannon kisses Anna, you say she's gay?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Lis See after I see you go, what's up? Carman?
Speaker 9 (07:44):
How you doing good?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Good? What's up?
Speaker 7 (07:49):
I just wanted to say, keV, you know it's not
just you that he would have to worry about coming
out to. There's a whole lot of other people that
he would have to deal with the repercussions of coming
out to. The might not be ready to deal with,
So outing himself to you would be outing himself to everyone.
And sometimes people just aren't ready to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Aren't there certain and also aren't there certain cultures too
were coming out?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Is just not more open?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Completely unacceptable?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yes, yeah, no, that's a good, good comment to Carmen. Uh,
what's going on, Danny Hie.
Speaker 10 (08:23):
I wanted to ask Kevin, Well, first off, I've been
listening since it was Dick Curtin, so all of you guys.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Wow, that's a long time ago. Wow. Yes.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
And but Kevin, I wanted to know, do you qualify
swingers to be gay.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
If they haven't said Like, if a guy is married
to a woman and you're saying like he has sex
with another guy, is that this?
Speaker 10 (08:45):
Well, well, swingers they swap everything.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, if you if you swap the swords, yes, I
would say you're gay, But aren't in the case of swingers,
are you saying that the guys are together and the girls.
Speaker 10 (08:56):
Are together sometimes it is?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes? Yeah, I mean that might be Uh, that might
be gay. I don't know. What do you say, Danny?
Speaker 10 (09:06):
Well, I mean, I being a gay man, I don't
even understand some stuff, but in my own community, so
I mean, I wouldn't just jump into conclusion.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You've been listening since Dick Purton. Did he ever talk
about stuff like this?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (09:24):
No, he's might have.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, I love it. Thank you for the call. Uh Victoria,
what's up?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Hi? Everyone?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I think you just.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Because I'm that and I will be the one that
would be like we should I ask my other friends
and be like, well, no, just leave it alone.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
It's like, well, I mean what you high before? I
just want to know, like can we autist?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
But I do have a cousin.
Speaker 9 (10:11):
I have a cousin and for the longest life, since childhood,
he has certain ways in the whole family, even my grandma.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Is just becauvin.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
And it's like, you know, I never see him with
a girl, never see him go on face either.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
You stay at home and it's just like you. I
think he would be so much happy if it just
came on out.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But you know what, can I tell you something, Victoria?
I think that he probably is happy. You're the one
that's thinking he's not happy, you know, And that's the
way I kind of felt with my son, Like I
was one of those like I just want him to
be happy. Well, he was happy, and he's just as
happy when he comes out, and as he will be
happy as he was not out. You know, like we're
(10:54):
all we all sit there and we try to make
other people's happiness for them when they're the only ones
that can make their own happiness. So do you feel
like he's happier Jacob. I think Jacob's the happiest he's
ever been right now. But it's because he found the
person that he wants to be with.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
They are the cutest.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Can I tell you something. I wanted to post a
picture of Jacob and Chris, Doctor Jacob, don't be disrespectful.
Jacob and his boyfriend Chris kissed at the graduation, and
I wanted to post that picture. I was too afraid
of what the listeners would because listeners have been I
have attacked Jake over time, and we'll find him and
people will tell him he's going to hell and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Real.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, And honestly, it's one of those things where I
want to protect my son and but I will say
this to you, guys. I will say this to you guys.
And he posted his own personal so and he's happy
about that. But I will say this to you when Jacob.
There's two moments at his graduation that made me the happiest.
Number One, when they said parents of the graduates, you know, uh,
(11:52):
you know, stand up, spouses of the graduate, stand up.
And when Chris stood up for the spouses of it
and he sat and waved to Jacob and Jacob.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Looked back at him and waved at him. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And then when Jake and him after the end they
embraced and kissed, it was like the greatest moment ever.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So this was so bro
All right, it is Mojo in the morning. keV has
a quick question before we move on to anything else.
You're out with two of your buddies. Yeah, and you
I need to know if you could ask one of
your buddies something that kind of made you think.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, so not the two people that I was out.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
So I'm out with some of homies yesterday and one
of my friends is openly gay and apparently he has
had an interaction with another one.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Of my friends. Pause, this is not Zach Marsham.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
No no, no, no, no, no no, it's not Zach get all,
and it's you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Wasn't there either. I went somewhere after I was with y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And so the openly gay homie told me that another
one of our friends, who is divorced, has a child
like came over to his house and they basically almost
had sex and has said that this person has kissed
him in the mouth before.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And in my mind is blown.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So I'm like, you're talking about blank and my mom
is like, I've never thought that this person's along that way.
So immediately I'm like, well, wow, like now I gotta know,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Like, and in my mind I'm like, like.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
You need to know if he's gay.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I feel like, because he's my friend, like I want
you to live your best life.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Right, he's And that was maybe where the conversation started
to go.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Did the friend that spoke out and said this thing
and realized he was outing him?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Saying?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Did he think you already knew because you were his friend?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
He didn't think I already knew.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But like the kissing thing happened in public, Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Everybody saw it.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Your question, Your question is should you just flat out
to ask him?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right? He was saying, you can't ask?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And then he also had like a deeper like psychology
behind it, saying that the guy doesn't view himself as gay. Interesting,
so his answer might not even be he doesn't even
though he does, you know gat.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So he so?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So he still views himself not being gay even though
he had a one time experience. Are you gay if
you have a one time experience? Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
I don't think so, because maybe you just try it
out and then you realize this is not for me.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I feel like that's gay's gay even wanting to do
it let alone.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
There are several people in my life that I wonder
if they are or aren't, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I could never ask.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Is it wrong to ask? Yeah, it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I when before Jacob came out, before our son came out,
I was always told by some of my closest friends,
do not ever ask him, like, don't ever ask him,
you know, if you know Jake, because he wasn't dating
at all, and we, you know, Chelsea and I both
knew that Jacob was gay, and we knew in due
(02:45):
time he was going to come out. I wanted him
to come out as soon as he wanted to, you know,
to come out, and I was hoping it was sooner
than later because I just don't want you don't want
him to have to feel like he has to exactly
you know, live a different life. But you should definitely
not say something to him, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So I want to help to your exactly like, because
if I say what I'm about to say, nothing's going
to change in that relationship. Then the question is, well,
why do you need to know it in the first place,
thathing's going to change? Because I want you to live
your best life. I want you to be happy being
who you are, and if for some reason you aren't, like,
let's get you there.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I think if you say something to him, it
may if he is gay, which you know, I mean
if if you have sex with a man, I think
that there's something going on there. I don't know if
you're necessarily but I but I would say, you don't
want him to go further into a closet because you
just asked him, you know, true, but.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I don't want him to have to live in the closet.
And maybe I'm obviously like, well, maybe he's not ready,
you know for that, And I get all of that.
I just want to I want you to see yourself
and no doubt, see you and appreciate you for who
you are.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Textures are texting in with interesting responses on this one.
Textures are texting in saying caveat you could uh, I
say that. Another texter says, cav don't come across homophobic. Uh,
And that would disappoint me because and then another person
texted in this is, uh, if you have sex with
(04:12):
a man, you are definitely gay.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I need to hear from someone who is living this though.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
That would actually be good, yes, Like if you're living
it where you are not out and your friends don't
know that you're out.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Or you recently came out or everyone has had this
experience because we can all say what we want, but none.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Of us think, in this case with Kevin's guy, that
if you're somebody that is not wanting people to know
what's going on, you're not going to be kissing another
guy in public.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like that's not gonna happen last alcohol?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Why for you for your specific situation. I almost wonder
if this guy is as close as a friend as
you say, if you if you tell him, hey, I
heard this story.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I I just want to let you like exactly what
you said.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I want you to be able to live your authentic
be your authentic self around me and like I am
a safe space for you, because in a lot of situations,
there isn't that that piece of the story.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Do you know what I mean? Where it's been seen
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Have you ever heard of guys being you know, like
girls bar sexual where they're they go to a bar,
they drink, you know, girls will kiss other girls and
a lot of people will say that they're I have
you ever seen guys do that at all? Because guys,
I would think, would be more frowned upon doing that
where girls it's like girls can pretty much be, you know,
like making out with other girls.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Emily, what's up. It's Mojo in the morning. Hi.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Hi, I'm a lesbian. So I thought I would call
in and kind of talk about the coming out experience
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We love that I'm not lesbian. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
So I think that something to remember is part of
the big one of the biggest things of coming out
is you have to be okay with yourself and being
gay first, before you're like, this is who I am. Everybody,
you want to be sure. And so if he's experimented,
not really sure, he could be gay, he could be
by pan not necessarily sure. He might just be kind
(06:08):
of trying to figure it out instead of maybe point
blank asking him if you just very outwardly share that
you support gay people and that you are supportive if
they are, that will give makes them feel a lot
more comfortable to then come to you and tell.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
You that on their own.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Emily, what do you think about him kissing another guy
in front of a bunch of people. If he's doing that,
don't you think he's got confidence that he is who
you know he is?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Maybe, but he could have been like drunk or something
I don't know, like the context necessarily, and like I
think of like, there are a lot of straight women
that kiss people at like parties and no one accuses
them of being a lesbian.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm telling you, I was just saying that just a
second ago.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm like, it seems like such a double standard whenever
that happens.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Like you can return something to Nordstrom for ninety days,
you can kiss someone and not be gay.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, all right, opinions, Well, yeah, you're awesome, we love you, Ami, Thanks,
thanks so much for the calling.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
What's up, Heather? How you doing?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (07:09):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (07:13):
I was just gonna kind of make the same point
that there's such a double standard.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
If a man has sex with another man, then he's
automatically gay, But if a woman does the same thing
with a woman, then we're like, oh, but she might
not be lesbian.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, no, like there definitely is more of a grace.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, so if Shannon kisses Anna, you say she's gay?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Lis See after I see you go, what's up? Carman?
Speaker 9 (07:44):
How you doing good?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Good? What's up?
Speaker 7 (07:49):
I just wanted to say, keV, you know it's not
just you that he would have to worry about coming
out to. There's a whole lot of other people that
he would have to deal with the repercussions of coming
out to. The might not be ready to deal with,
So outing himself to you would be outing himself to everyone.
And sometimes people just aren't ready to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Aren't there certain and also aren't there certain cultures too
were coming out?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Is just not more open?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Completely unacceptable?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yes, yeah, no, that's a good, good comment to Carmen. Uh,
what's going on, Danny Hie.
Speaker 10 (08:23):
I wanted to ask Kevin, Well, first off, I've been
listening since it was Dick Curtin, so all of you guys.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Wow, that's a long time ago. Wow. Yes.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
And but Kevin, I wanted to know, do you qualify
swingers to be gay.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
If they haven't said Like, if a guy is married
to a woman and you're saying like he has sex
with another guy, is that this?
Speaker 10 (08:45):
Well, well, swingers they swap everything.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, if you if you swap the swords, yes, I
would say you're gay, But aren't in the case of swingers,
are you saying that the guys are together and the girls.
Speaker 10 (08:56):
Are together sometimes it is?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes? Yeah, I mean that might be Uh, that might
be gay. I don't know. What do you say, Danny?
Speaker 10 (09:06):
Well, I mean, I being a gay man, I don't
even understand some stuff, but in my own community, so
I mean, I wouldn't just jump into conclusion.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You've been listening since Dick Purton. Did he ever talk
about stuff like this?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (09:24):
No, he's might have.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, I love it. Thank you for the call. Uh Victoria,
what's up?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Hi? Everyone?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I think you just.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Because I'm that and I will be the one that
would be like we should I ask my other friends
and be like, well, no, just leave it alone.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
It's like, well, I mean what you high before? I
just want to know, like can we autist?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
But I do have a cousin.
Speaker 9 (10:11):
I have a cousin and for the longest life, since childhood,
he has certain ways in the whole family, even my grandma.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Is just becauvin.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
And it's like, you know, I never see him with
a girl, never see him go on face either.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
You stay at home and it's just like you. I
think he would be so much happy if it just
came on out.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But you know what, can I tell you something, Victoria?
I think that he probably is happy. You're the one
that's thinking he's not happy, you know, And that's the
way I kind of felt with my son, Like I
was one of those like I just want him to
be happy. Well, he was happy, and he's just as
happy when he comes out, and as he will be
happy as he was not out. You know, like we're
(10:54):
all we all sit there and we try to make
other people's happiness for them when they're the only ones
that can make their own happiness. So do you feel
like he's happier Jacob. I think Jacob's the happiest he's
ever been right now. But it's because he found the
person that he wants to be with.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
They are the cutest.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Can I tell you something. I wanted to post a
picture of Jacob and Chris, Doctor Jacob, don't be disrespectful.
Jacob and his boyfriend Chris kissed at the graduation, and
I wanted to post that picture. I was too afraid
of what the listeners would because listeners have been I
have attacked Jake over time, and we'll find him and
people will tell him he's going to hell and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Real.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, And honestly, it's one of those things where I
want to protect my son and but I will say
this to you, guys. I will say this to you guys.
And he posted his own personal so and he's happy
about that. But I will say this to you when Jacob.
There's two moments at his graduation that made me the happiest.
Number One, when they said parents of the graduates, you know, uh,
(11:52):
you know, stand up, spouses of the graduate, stand up.
And when Chris stood up for the spouses of it
and he sat and waved to Jacob and Jacob.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Looked back at him and waved at him. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And then when Jake and him after the end they
embraced and kissed, it was like the greatest moment ever.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So this was so bro
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