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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, it's Mojo in the morning show. Kevin has
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kind of something interesting going on. For those Kevin that
are either new to the show or newer right now
and haven't listened to us or podcasts in a while,
you got to catch up. Kevin made a big announcement
that he and his girlfriend have broken up and that
you and Scherrell are going to go your separate ways.
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And you guys have had some struggles that have been
going on for the past like about six months, six months,
which we're happy that you are doing well, and we're
happy that we hear Sharrell is doing well. But this
is an interesting one because you guys are both got
family going on here, you got kids and stuff. So
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you had something very interesting though, happen with Josiah, your son.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So Josiah is eleven years old.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
For those who don't know, I have sere appearancing with
his mother, Jasmine, So Cherrell is not Josiah's biological mom.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So, like Mojo Sai, I've been going going through some things.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And six months ago, Cherrelle and I we split ways,
and obviously some days are better than others, but I'm
in a much much much better place on a consistent
level than I was earlier on.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So blessed and thankful for that.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So Josiah obviously is aware of what's going on and
has been aware for some time. And as a parent,
you want your children to be the happiest that they
can possibly be. And right now I feel like the
thing that would make Josiah the happiest is for a
new relationship to commence, and that relationship being between myself
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and his mother. Oh and he started to drop little
hints here and there, and one of them being just
to give you an example, when I dropped him off
to her house two days ago, I gave him, like,
you know, he in the car, give him a kiss
on the cheek. He gets out of the car, He's like,
don't you want to come in and give mama kiss?
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These are things that he would never say, Like he's
never said that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Is he saying it in a jokey way or is
he like it's like a half joking serious.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's half joking initially and this is the first time
that he said it. He would joke about that or
never not until now.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
If you say half joking, you really I mean, you
think he was really joking or you think he's probably serious.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
When I asked her, because I mean I talked to
Josiah like I talked to y'all. Yeah, I've done that
ever since, you know, ever since he was born. So
we have real conversation. I ask like, are you do
you you think that you know or would you like
from your mother and how to get together? He's like,
you know, you know, he's I'm like, you keep saying
these things. He's like, I'm just joking. But I asked
his therapist about it too, and she said that he
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brought it up in therapy, so I don't think that
he's fully joking.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah he's I mean, and what child doesn't want that?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
But I mean, like that's what he wants to see
his mom and his dad be together. That would be
perfect for him not to have to wake up on
Christmas and like face time somebody.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
He want to beat her half of us? Have you
asked his mom if she does the same to her?
Where he says, yeah, she's mentioned it. Like I'm around
to pe real quick, like we done been.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Jasmine and I are in such a better place right now,
and I thank God that we've both matured. I was
twenty two when I had Josiah, she was twenty one,
so we were kids, you know what I mean. And
we've gotten to a place now we're very mature, and
we've always put Josiah at the center of it on
and if you visually look at that, that means there's
a separation between us, and now we're at a point
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where we're more together than ever, which is healthy for Josiah.
So I'm saying all this to say, for a while,
I didn't know where she lived, she didn't know where
I lived, and we've lived in different places. That's crazy, bro,
I'm telling you, we was s petty as hell like that.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
And bro, for really and for Josiah now to be
in a place where you're in a much better place
with his mom too, there is that even more like
spark of hope.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And he can see it the way that we converse.
He can hear the love in our conversation.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So I say all that to say, I needed to
use the bathroom when I picked them up, and like
for her to like allow me to come in and pee,
it's like a huge step. So when I hugged Josiah,
or Josiah hugged his mom to leave He's like, let's
make it a family and it's all right, when I wasn't, like, damn,
I don't really want to do this. But it was
those moments that her and I looked at each other like, Okay,
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let's do this for Joe.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I'm going to ask the question that I already know
the answer to, but I want you to answer it
for everybody who's listening right now, because they're probably thinking it,
is that even a possibility for you and Jasmine to
get back together.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'm a firm believer of never say never, because I've
done things that I've said I never would. Yeah, I
felt like things have happened in my life that I
thought never would happen. There's a ninety nine point nine
percent chance that it will never happen, though, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
For something on who's part? You're part of my part?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yet I just I'm a I'm a I'm a firm
believer on standing on business, bro and you have to
you have to put yourself in a position to succeed
no matter the situation.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And before you love anybody, you have to love yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And when there are things that can't contradict that love
that you have for yourself and can potentially push you
over the edge.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Don't put your self and those situations.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I asked the listeners this eight four to four Joe
Live eight four four six sixty five six five four
eight Has this ever happened to you? And if it did,
has anybody ever had it happen to them? And you
guys did get back together. So you got back together
with your child's parent, and it was because your child
was the one that was asking for it to happen,
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because that's something out of like it's like a Hallmark movie.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
We you know, we know somebody. It just happened to
our friend Joe. It just happened, you know, Joe.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, Joe.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I don't know if he wants me to say his
full name, they're not going to. But he I remember
he and his wife got divorced, They had to kids,
they dated other people, they moved into separate houses. Sorry,
I had them out the tubaga so she knew and
they got picked together.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
They did.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, good for them, and they're very very happy.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, it's interesting and in that case, it's an interesting
one too because their child was older. Children or children
were older, so it wasn't like they were little kids,
so similar to probably Josiah too, because I wonder sometimes
like when you see your kids being little and you know,
because there's been times I'm sure, I'm sure Shannon you
had this too, but you have these moments where your
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kids are little and you just go, I just want
our family. I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
She was trying. She wasn't trying to get on like that. Yeah,
I asked her.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I vividly remember asking her just maybe like four or
five years and I'm like, listen, do you want to
try this? Like do you want to give it a shot?
She was like, no, I'm gooduld stayed somebody else and
not even broke up. So yo, last heyd, what's going on?
I said to her face, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You don't think about respecting each other and.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I should have gone to the call fast, so that
what's up?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So, uh, ket you're talking about about backtracking?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
My grandma told me when I was young, when you
take out the trash, make sure it's trash, don't go
back to diving.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, but yeah, please let's not say that because Josiah's
mom is not trash in Josiah's.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Mom not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But relationship, yeah, and actually I've had the pleasure to
talk to Josiah's mom just by hearing keV was on
speakerphone talking about something, arranging something for Josiah, and I
actually said, Hey, I'm gonna interrupt this conversation. I am
so incredibly proud of the two of you guys for
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how you guys talk with each other and how you
talk about your son. I'm blessed and I was very
and this was actually you were and Cherrell were together,
and you were you guys were so kind to each
other but also kind to you know, the others too.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And if you if you think Josiah is amazing, trust
me as not all me. His mom is a huge piece.
Josiah is who he is.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Leo, what's up. It's Mojoe in the morning.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
So I had a similar situation where me and my
son dad, we split up when he was young, before
he was a year old, and in like early two
thousand and three, no, twenty twenty three, I got really
sick and his dad was the one who took care
of me, and during that.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
We all got back together as like a family, and
my son was really he loved it at first, but
then He also kind of struggled because he was so
used to us living separately and having you know, a
routine at his dad and a routine at his mom.
So we all got together, he was, you know, now
there's two people who discipline, and now there's you know,
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we don't spend a lot of one on one time together.
And so he struggled with that a little bit. And
then we were together for two years and then we
separated again.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, it's tough. You got to if you're going to
do it, you got to make sure that you're going
to do it, and you're going to you know, nothing's
ever guaranteed in life, but it's almost like one of
those things where all you're doing is yo yo and
your kids. If he keeps going back and forth, and
I feel those kids just have to be really stressed
out of the whole situation. Yeah, I will say this
to you, Kevin, I really appreciate you bringing this to
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the air, because I think it is about as real
as you can possibly get. And I think that it's
awesome that Josiah does still feel the love of the
two of you guys and thinks that so important and
thinks that mom and dad potentially could love each other
because it means that your relationship is good.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
But also, like West always says this to me, it's
kind of like our mantra, like you have to remind
your kids kids of divorced families that they were created
in love. Like you know, at one point in the
story there was a lot of love between mom and dad,
and that you know that that is part of their story.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Sure, Erica, what's up me?
Speaker 5 (09:42):
So my parents got divorced when I was born and
then remarried when I was eighteen.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh my gosh, how did that make you feel? As
an adult all of a sudden you see her? Because
I would think that it would be icky to see
your parents all of a sudden kissing. And again, I
hated it.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It was It was really hard for me because my
because my dad was never in the picture when I
was growing up.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I never I never.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Met him, so it was really really tough for me.
And yeah, it was really hard.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But could I ask this, was it because you you
had such baggage in trauma from him doing that? Did
you eventually grow to love this or did it work out?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:34):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Actually I made him pay, like buy my love actually
for for some years.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Which I'm not proud of. It was not to forgive
him for what happened.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yeah, because you know, he had other children and he
was married prior to my mom and then divorced my
mom and then had other kids. So this is not
something I mean, this was like a pattern for him.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So are they still together right now?
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yeah, after you know, I'm fifty three.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So oh wow, Okay, it's a while back. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
So he's my dad, and you know I have my siblings.
Are you know I have other siblings and you know.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
We're not both.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I do have one of my sisters.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
I'm close with one of my sisters, so, but my
other siblings I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Not really close with. So. But yeah, it was a
kind of a learning thing. So but does it give
you therapy to talk to us? Because I'm listening you're
talking right now, and I can tell that this is
something that is not easy. You probably don't talk about
very much. But it sounds to me like this calling us.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I I did go through therapy a lot, and I
talked to my friends a lot, and you know, it
did kind of you know, have get to have a
wall with my mom for a little while, but got
through it, and you know, yeah, it helps talking to it,
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talking to people, and I can't.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
By the way, I got to go because literally the
show is gonna be over in ten thirty and I
feel like I'm gonna be talking to you all day,
literally no offense. I feel like I'm giving you your
therapy of today. Make an appointment at the at the counter,
and we'll talk to you next week. Okay. By the way,
first time, long time hey there as I know as Erica.
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Her name is still Erica. Holy Jesus that. By the way,
the phone call was longer than Kev's relationship with.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I feel like to just leave it, just leave it
or leave it.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, how long it took to make you come bine
your mama so fast?