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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mojo in the morning. So I saw this alert that
came out.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I want to bring our listeners up to it because
we have so many of our listeners that are moms
and dads, and we worry about our kids, and we
worry about, you know, what's going on as far as
when our kids are on any kind of you know,
digital devices, their phone, iPads, computers. There is an app
that is out there that is called the Tender for kids,
(00:27):
as in teens. But this app, they say, is not
teens meeting teens. It's actually looks like predators meeting even younger.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Than teenage kids.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Terrifying and on the phone with us is our good
friend Sheriff Mike Bouchard from the Oakland County Sheriff's Department,
who is with us. First off, I didn't even is
it legal to have Sheriff Bouchard an app for anybody
that is under the age of eighteen.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, yeah, there, if you go on the app store,
typically it will tell you ages that's appropriate. Sometimes they
have age verification which is not too difficult to bypass.
And so this one's rated twelve and up, which is
absurd by it's very very nature. But you know, We've
seen kids around the country getting on this at nine
(01:20):
and younger, so it's really a terrible idea for kids
to be on this To have access to it, parents
really need to tune in, they need to have if
they have their kids having a phone back up. You
can get a phone that doesn't allow your kids to
download apps or do all sorts of stuff if you know,
(01:41):
obviously at a convenience for parents to be able to
call their kids when they need to and for safety
for kids to be able to call their parents when
they need them one hundred percent, but you can get
a phone that limits the kinds of things they can.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Do on at number one, number two.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
If you don't get one of those phones, be the
master user on the phone and have limitations on what
can be downloaded and what can be accessed. This app
is just a gateway for potential predators to stock your kids.
You know, they get on it themselves, they represent themselves
as another kid, They start conversations, then they start you know,
(02:19):
grooming them, asking them for explicit pictures, which sometimes tragically
has led to sextortion where one of the young people
will do something you know, usually unclothed on on a
picture or a video and then that person turns around
and says, look, if you don't do this or that,
I'm going to send it to all the people in
(02:40):
your friends list. And we've seen kids around the country
commit suicide when they're traveling like that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So it's just so many red flags with this.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's w I z Z is the app? Where's the wire? Okay? Yeah?
It shir I know.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean, first off, thank you for bringing to our
attention and letting us letting us know about this. But
I just again go back to your description of what
it says in the app. A twelve year old on
a dating app.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
This is crazy. I mean I thought it was parody
at first, in a joke.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But to know that that's the case and that the
app store would take that as a legit app.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, well, they probably don't verbalize as a dating app.
They social connection app or meet other friends. But you
can on this app direct message people. We've seen in
different parts of the country drug activity being transacted via
this app and bringing kids into that. So there's just,
(03:42):
as I said, so many red flags on this. Parents
really need to engage. It's tough to be a parent today,
you know, back back neck. They used to be when
your kids were home, the doors were locked, you could
take a breath, they were safe. Now they can be
up in their bedroom talking to a predator who's in
their basement in Cleveland, and you have no idea.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, I mean, I am such a crazy person. My
kids don't have phones with they have iPads, and I
mean I just I literally look at every app every conversation.
I feel like you have to you have to one percent.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You've got to be a parent first. You know, you
have to have guardrails up for him, and you have
to have safety. They don't know what they're walking into.
And I've been in situations where, you know, a mom
called me once and said her kid got into a
situation where he had been catfished and fooled. He thought
he was talking to a very pretty girl who supposedly
(04:35):
disrobed and did all sorts of stuff and.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now your turn.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
And then she had a video of him doing that
and then started the blackmail. And thankfully she had a
strong relationship with her son. He said, Mom, I don't
know what to do his what happened obviously a tough
thing for a kid to do. Embarrassment and shame and
things like that. But he did it because they had
a strong relationship, and she did the right thing. She
(04:58):
actually called me directly because I newer. We assume that
young man's identity and we taught to person, but sometimes
you don't have those good outcomes.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So in I was, you were mentioning the idea that
these guys will be sex storted. That has become a
big deal nationally where the you know, Congress is right
now being really pressured to go after you know, all
the chat GPTs that are out there, uh, you know,
all the AI stuff, because some kids are going and
(05:26):
they're having AI friendships, and these friendships turn out to
be where AI is telling them to do things that
they shouldn't be doing, and the next thing, you know,
a bit of sextortion takes place where some you know, bad.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Actors that go in and do this.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You're seeing locally in our town and our communities here
in Michigan and Ohio and stuff like that. With our
broadcast all over the place, you're seeing locally where this
is actually being affected affecting our teens.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Oh one d percent.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
As I said, I personally received calls about sex stortion
and Again, I've seen cases where the kid doesn't have
that relationship with the parents or it doesn't feel they
can tell anyone, they feel trapped, and they've committed suicide.
So parents really need to.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Tune into their kids.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Have their behavior changes dramatically for any reason. It could
be something like this. It could be drugs, it could
be suicide, alliterations. You don't know what it is. Just
tune into your kids, talk to your kids, be engaged
with your kids.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
See like, I'm happy that we live in a society
to where if I have an idea and I have
the means to take my idea to completion, I can
create an app and upload it. But there has to
be some owners put on these companies have a bit
more of a verification process to really identify what are
these apps, what are the purposes of these apps, and
how are they actually being utilized, Like somebody's would have
(06:48):
to answer for that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, well, and I think that it's what that's going
to be the thing that Congress needs to figure out
and try to put laws into effect where it goes
after them.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
But Sheriff, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I know that you got a hard out come in here,
and I appreciate you going going on with us in
such a short period of time, but this story is
breaking this morning, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Can I recommend a really good app or a really
good something for parents to download.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It's called Bark.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
A friend of mine, actually a friend of a girl
that I worked with years ago, actually started it years ago,
and it basically monitors not only all the app, it
monitors your son or daughter's devices. It could be an
IPADF phone for signs of cyberbullying, depression, online predators. It's
I mean, she's been on every major talk show. It's
we use it for Smith and Lucy. It is absolutely awesome,
(07:38):
and it's called Bark. I think you have to go
to bark dot us. Yes, bark dot us, and you
can learn more about it. But truly it is a
shameless plug for her. It's absolutely an incredible resource to
have as a parent.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Can I like I like that you go to bark
dot us because I think when you go into the
app store too, as a parent or as a maybe
not a technical a person, you get fooled by names
that are similarities to it, that are that are honestly
again I'm going to use that works. I love it.
Bad actors or the words bad. They always call them
bad actors when the people are bad people.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Shady apps, yeah, and I think shady not the other words.
Shady apps.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Well, they're the other thing too.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But yeah, Hana, I saw your call up here and
I couldn't grab it because I know Sheriff Pushard had
to leave. But your question was what can the average
person do to help this? You wanted to ask the
sheriff that I think we can answer that question exactly.
What he just said was you gotta be more mindful
(08:37):
of what your kids are doing, and you got to
keep them from doing the things that you know.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I you know, I actually don't even have kids. I'm
just so passionate about this because I've seen, like I'm
recently twenty three, so all of my friends we grew
up in the generation of like technology, and yeah, you
go on Snapchat, you go on Instagram, you go on
like any of the random apps or like you video
chat with people, and there's horrify things on there. And
it's so confusing to me why there's not enough measures
(09:04):
taken to protect the kids. So I want to know,
like what we can actually do to have the voices
of the kids, the.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Parents heard well. And that's honestly, that's where I hate
to say this.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
We bicker and bitch and moan and do everything politically
these days to try to just attack Republican Democrat you know,
all that stuff. This is the stuff that our leaders
that are in DC and Lancing and you know Columbus
should be working on.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Is this.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
They should be working on how to protect the average
kid from or an average person from not being extorted somehow,
whether it's monetarially or sexual. Yeah right, all right, that
is that. Now, I got to do the War of
the roses. Now it's time for us to bust a cheater.
Everybody wants us. Everybody this morning saying you should do
(09:57):
a war of the roses and cheron more.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Maybe we should. Well, you never know, coming weeks, you
never know. Go gg why Detroit, go
Speaker 3 (10:05):
To you se next mustee your Grand Rappids, WVKO and
iHeart radio stations, Real people, real lives, real fun, Mojo
in the morning, guaranteed human
Mojo in the morning. So I saw this alert that
came out.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I want to bring our listeners up to it because
we have so many of our listeners that are moms
and dads, and we worry about our kids, and we
worry about, you know, what's going on as far as
when our kids are on any kind of you know,
digital devices, their phone, iPads, computers. There is an app
that is out there that is called the Tender for kids,
(00:27):
as in teens. But this app, they say, is not
teens meeting teens. It's actually looks like predators meeting even younger.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Than teenage kids.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Terrifying and on the phone with us is our good
friend Sheriff Mike Bouchard from the Oakland County Sheriff's Department,
who is with us. First off, I didn't even is
it legal to have Sheriff Bouchard an app for anybody
that is under the age of eighteen.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, yeah, there, if you go on the app store,
typically it will tell you ages that's appropriate. Sometimes they
have age verification which is not too difficult to bypass.
And so this one's rated twelve and up, which is
absurd by it's very very nature. But you know, We've
seen kids around the country getting on this at nine
(01:20):
and younger, so it's really a terrible idea for kids
to be on this To have access to it, parents
really need to tune in, they need to have if
they have their kids having a phone back up. You
can get a phone that doesn't allow your kids to
download apps or do all sorts of stuff if you know,
(01:41):
obviously at a convenience for parents to be able to
call their kids when they need to and for safety
for kids to be able to call their parents when
they need them one hundred percent, but you can get
a phone that limits the kinds of things they can.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Do on at number one, number two.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
If you don't get one of those phones, be the
master user on the phone and have limitations on what
can be downloaded and what can be accessed. This app
is just a gateway for potential predators to stock your kids.
You know, they get on it themselves, they represent themselves
as another kid, They start conversations, then they start you know,
(02:19):
grooming them, asking them for explicit pictures, which sometimes tragically
has led to sextortion where one of the young people
will do something you know, usually unclothed on on a
picture or a video and then that person turns around
and says, look, if you don't do this or that,
I'm going to send it to all the people in
(02:40):
your friends list. And we've seen kids around the country
commit suicide when they're traveling like that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So it's just so many red flags with this.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's w I z Z is the app? Where's the wire? Okay? Yeah?
It shir I know.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean, first off, thank you for bringing to our
attention and letting us letting us know about this. But
I just again go back to your description of what
it says in the app. A twelve year old on
a dating app.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
This is crazy. I mean I thought it was parody
at first, in a joke.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But to know that that's the case and that the
app store would take that as a legit app.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, well, they probably don't verbalize as a dating app.
They social connection app or meet other friends. But you
can on this app direct message people. We've seen in
different parts of the country drug activity being transacted via
this app and bringing kids into that. So there's just,
(03:42):
as I said, so many red flags on this. Parents
really need to engage. It's tough to be a parent today,
you know, back back neck. They used to be when
your kids were home, the doors were locked, you could
take a breath, they were safe. Now they can be
up in their bedroom talking to a predator who's in
their basement in Cleveland, and you have no idea.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, I mean, I am such a crazy person. My
kids don't have phones with they have iPads, and I
mean I just I literally look at every app every conversation.
I feel like you have to you have to one percent.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You've got to be a parent first. You know, you
have to have guardrails up for him, and you have
to have safety. They don't know what they're walking into.
And I've been in situations where, you know, a mom
called me once and said her kid got into a
situation where he had been catfished and fooled. He thought
he was talking to a very pretty girl who supposedly
(04:35):
disrobed and did all sorts of stuff and.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now your turn.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
And then she had a video of him doing that
and then started the blackmail. And thankfully she had a
strong relationship with her son. He said, Mom, I don't
know what to do his what happened obviously a tough
thing for a kid to do. Embarrassment and shame and
things like that. But he did it because they had
a strong relationship, and she did the right thing. She
(04:58):
actually called me directly because I newer. We assume that
young man's identity and we taught to person, but sometimes
you don't have those good outcomes.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So in I was, you were mentioning the idea that
these guys will be sex storted. That has become a
big deal nationally where the you know, Congress is right
now being really pressured to go after you know, all
the chat GPTs that are out there, uh, you know,
all the AI stuff, because some kids are going and
(05:26):
they're having AI friendships, and these friendships turn out to
be where AI is telling them to do things that
they shouldn't be doing, and the next thing, you know,
a bit of sextortion takes place where some you know, bad.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Actors that go in and do this.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You're seeing locally in our town and our communities here
in Michigan and Ohio and stuff like that. With our
broadcast all over the place, you're seeing locally where this
is actually being affected affecting our teens.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Oh one d percent.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
As I said, I personally received calls about sex stortion
and Again, I've seen cases where the kid doesn't have
that relationship with the parents or it doesn't feel they
can tell anyone, they feel trapped, and they've committed suicide.
So parents really need to.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Tune into their kids.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Have their behavior changes dramatically for any reason. It could
be something like this. It could be drugs, it could
be suicide, alliterations. You don't know what it is. Just
tune into your kids, talk to your kids, be engaged
with your kids.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
See like, I'm happy that we live in a society
to where if I have an idea and I have
the means to take my idea to completion, I can
create an app and upload it. But there has to
be some owners put on these companies have a bit
more of a verification process to really identify what are
these apps, what are the purposes of these apps, and
how are they actually being utilized, Like somebody's would have
(06:48):
to answer for that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, well, and I think that it's what that's going
to be the thing that Congress needs to figure out
and try to put laws into effect where it goes
after them.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
But Sheriff, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I know that you got a hard out come in here,
and I appreciate you going going on with us in
such a short period of time, but this story is
breaking this morning, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Can I recommend a really good app or a really
good something for parents to download.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It's called Bark.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
A friend of mine, actually a friend of a girl
that I worked with years ago, actually started it years ago,
and it basically monitors not only all the app, it
monitors your son or daughter's devices. It could be an
IPADF phone for signs of cyberbullying, depression, online predators. It's
I mean, she's been on every major talk show. It's
we use it for Smith and Lucy. It is absolutely awesome,
(07:38):
and it's called Bark. I think you have to go
to bark dot us. Yes, bark dot us, and you
can learn more about it. But truly it is a
shameless plug for her. It's absolutely an incredible resource to
have as a parent.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Can I like I like that you go to bark
dot us because I think when you go into the
app store too, as a parent or as a maybe
not a technical a person, you get fooled by names
that are similarities to it, that are that are honestly
again I'm going to use that works. I love it.
Bad actors or the words bad. They always call them
bad actors when the people are bad people.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Shady apps, yeah, and I think shady not the other words.
Shady apps.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Well, they're the other thing too.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But yeah, Hana, I saw your call up here and
I couldn't grab it because I know Sheriff Pushard had
to leave. But your question was what can the average
person do to help this? You wanted to ask the
sheriff that I think we can answer that question exactly.
What he just said was you gotta be more mindful
(08:37):
of what your kids are doing, and you got to
keep them from doing the things that you know.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I you know, I actually don't even have kids. I'm
just so passionate about this because I've seen, like I'm
recently twenty three, so all of my friends we grew
up in the generation of like technology, and yeah, you
go on Snapchat, you go on Instagram, you go on
like any of the random apps or like you video
chat with people, and there's horrify things on there. And
it's so confusing to me why there's not enough measures
(09:04):
taken to protect the kids. So I want to know,
like what we can actually do to have the voices
of the kids, the.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Parents heard well. And that's honestly, that's where I hate
to say this.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
We bicker and bitch and moan and do everything politically
these days to try to just attack Republican Democrat you know,
all that stuff. This is the stuff that our leaders
that are in DC and Lancing and you know Columbus
should be working on.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Is this.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
They should be working on how to protect the average
kid from or an average person from not being extorted somehow,
whether it's monetarially or sexual. Yeah right, all right, that
is that. Now, I got to do the War of
the roses. Now it's time for us to bust a cheater.
Everybody wants us. Everybody this morning saying you should do
(09:57):
a war of the roses and cheron more.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Maybe we should. Well, you never know, coming weeks, you
never know. Go gg why Detroit, go
Speaker 3 (10:05):
To you se next mustee your Grand Rappids, WVKO and
iHeart radio stations, Real people, real lives, real fun, Mojo
in the morning, guaranteed human
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