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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, hold time a second's mojo in the morning show. So, Shannon,
(00:03):
when you and your husband Wes have like a moment
where couples have these all the time, where you got
to have like that one on one time. And I'm
not talking about that one on one time. I'm talking
about like you got to work through some stuff. Yeah,
how do you guys do it?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We go for a walk.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So the walk that you go through, so instead of
like going to another room or you know, telling the
kids to go up to their rooms because you guys
got to have a conversation, a dull conversation, you guys
go out and just walk.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We get some movement in fresh air and it seems
to help, especially me, like be doing something as we're
talking through whatever it is that we need to be
talking to and we walk, not around the walk like
it's us.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We walk miles.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Okay, Well, I will work out when we when we
are working stuff out.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You say that because of how much activity he likes
to get in his life.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah, not that he's got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well both.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And it was funny because yesterday we actually did this.
It was such a nice day and you know, we
had some stuff to talk about, and so he's like,
let's go for a walk.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I said, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So we're walking, and every once in a while we
would like stop and sit on like a bench or
whatever and like chat for you know, twenty thirty minutes
and then get up and walk more. And the whole
time we're talking about some really really personal things that
are that are happening. And at one point we paused,
(01:37):
like took a break, and I looked around.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We were sitting.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
He calls it on a dead person bench, on a
bench that has like a plaque, you know, commemorating somebody
sitting on a dead person bench. And I'm looking around
at all the people who are walking their dogs by us.
There were there was an engagement photo shoot happening. There
was a huge family doing like a family photo shoot.
There was a dad in his two kids fishing. I'm like,
(02:02):
all these people have just heard every detail.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Of what we have been talking about because we're.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So in it and focused and not even realizing that
people someone could have just been standing there the whole
time listening to what we were discussing.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Do your talks always stay at the same decibel or
do they occasionally raise voices and get bigger.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's me, they get louder.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh really, are you the loud one?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
You think she looked crazy?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Let me you hear when she hears sometimes her back
get off straight.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm like, please, don't let anybody that I know.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I've walked around.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Do you ever have it? Where does he have to
ever go or do you have to do that to know?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Like I'm telling you, we're both locked in when we
are having intense discussions and so we're I'm not even
being attention And it wasn't until I step back and
I'm like, oh my god, the world is happening around
us and everybody is hearing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What's you know what we're talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Is it wild for you when you're having these in depth,
like a couple moments where you're talking and trying to
work through some stuff. Is it wild for you to
see all of a sudden children running through grass and
like families.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Taking pictures and all the stuff that you're describing.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like I would sit there and almost think, is this
like a movie happening in front of me?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
This reminds me of when I do like girl dinner
with my besties and like we're talking about some dirty
stuff that we're doing with our men, and then we
look over to the table next to us and it's
like a family of four.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Coloring on the kids.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Min. I think that's honestly how Chelse and I would
do it after we found out. We used to do
it where we had an in depth conversations on our deck,
our back deck because we thought that we were outside
and the kids couldn't hear us, only to know that
Jacob's bedroom was right above the deck and Jacob heard
every conversation. So then we got to a point where
(04:02):
we started going to restaurants to do it, Like we
would go out and go sit in a restaurant only
to note that the bus boys.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Heard or the waitress has heard all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, like that's you don't because you want to be
able to like be yourself and say yourself. It'd be
like doing could you imagine you in therapy walking through
a park, but.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That like didn't you used to do that with your
old therapist would walk It's it's so good for you,
it's so good for your brain. And especially I think
we're all a little add where like if I'm sitting
across a table from my husband, I I cannot focus for.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
The life of me.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh, kitchen tables are the worst place to have an
argument because I get antsy. You bring up a really
good point. I can't believe you. Remember that Tom Fitzpatrick
was my therapist. His office was next to the Farmer's
market in Royal Oak. He had that it was like
that house that's right there, and he would on a
beautiful day go, let's take my dog for a walk,
and I'm like, I'm paying you how much money an hour?
(04:57):
We would go for walks through Royal Oak. And this
was no joke. A couple of things. People would either go, hey,
it's Mojo and the guys.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
We're going through a walk.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Or we would have the moment where we were walking
and I'm going to slow down.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Do you ever like? It works you up a little bit.
But it was actually good to work through.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Them, so therapeutic. It really is a help. It's very helpful.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Is it weird?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
If you and West are having these moments and you're
getting to like an in depth thing and all of
a sudden, car driving through the neighborhood or something like that.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I would take it as a sign like whatever you were.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Talking about, Yeah, that's wild eight four to four Mojo
Live eight four four sixty sixty five six by four
eight When you and whoever you're in a relationship with, boyfriend, girlfriend, husband,
wife are having like those moments? Where do you guys
have them? Where do you have the the the conversations
and how do you how do you deal with it?
(05:54):
The whole idea of walking is an idea because a
couple of textures hair going, oh my god, Shanna has
such a great idea, going for a walk, and another
person saying, uh, we got to try the walk.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
That's actually a great idea.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And also if I'm at home, I can't I can't
sit still, So I'm like putting away dishes or folding
laundry or cleaning out the fridge, and that's so like
I'm then I'm not fully focused on what the topic
is at hand.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Was this something you always did or Wes kind of
introduced this?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Know what you like?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
What?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
West kind of introduced it?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
And how does it work in the wintertime? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You haven't had one of us. You haven't had really,
can I tell you what it did for me, though.
There was problem was when we did it on the
back deck. It made for when we had friends over.
I never wanted to sit on the back deck because
I always looked at it as that place. Chelsea and I.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Always were fighting that back there.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Matter of fact, I think you and i've been out.
That's where our conversation. That's where our conversation was, the
back deck conversation. Yeah, that's kind of We're going to
the back deck there right now. It's funny because last
night we were out for dinner and we were we
were out Chelsea, myself and our friend Grant, and we
took him out for dinner because he's moving to Florida,
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and so we wanted to go out. And I was
in your neighborhood having dinner. There are so many people
walking in that neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, tons, especially yesterday it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
How do people not hear everybody's conversations?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Like couples do? People walking? You know, exercising.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Although everybody's wearing air pods nowadays, I feel like, yeah,
so they're all got some music or something going.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
What's up, Ryan? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (07:30):
I'm doing pretty good?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
How do you and your lady have have your conversations? Well,
we have a conversations, especially when it's a little heated
when the kids around.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
I'm buy the lingual.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I speak Spanish and English, and the kids only speak English,
so it's kind of easy to keep it a secret
from them. Boy, that is hysterical.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So you guys, when you guys fight with each other,
so the kids don't know you speak it in Spanish.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Be careful because those new AirPods instantly translate.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Oh yeah, they sure do. When they started asking questions, daddy,
what does mean why you know? Speaking English? Oh my god,
that's funny. What's up, Ashley High? How are you good?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Are you good?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We're talking about Shannon and in her marriage, they go
on walks when they need to have conversations as a couple.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Yeah. So there's this like public uh walking area has
a pond, you know, and a lot of people go there,
and so we'll walk around and we'll you know, uh
talk and whatnot, and it's just so awkward and someone's
walking by. We'll just stop arguing. Yeah, like nothing's wrong.
(08:48):
You know, we're just on a walk, you know, there's
nothing going on, but we're just having our argument and
then we'll stop talking when someone walks by.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That's funny, like they yeah, because you don't want them
to know what's going on. Can I ask a question
because Shannon also mentioned this too. You'll walk around was
it a lake? People fishing and stuff? Ashley, When you're
around the pond and you're around the lake, do you
think that the people that you're in conversations with Shannon's
husband and your husband, Ashley, ever think about wanting to
drownd you in that list?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
I mean, sometimes we're pretty close.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
You can just push me.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
In there. That's how a Dateline NBC episode actually starts.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Right, They were on a walk.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
And dealing with stuff. So thank you, Ashley, I appreciate it.
Take care of yourself. It is funny in relationships, and
I think people don't understand this, but you need to
have these moments because you know, there are some couples
that just don't ever talk about it, like they never
and honestly, then that's where resentment goes into play, and
(09:51):
then you start just being pissed off and then next
thing you know, you're talking to a complete stranger who
you're trusting to actually give you the advice on what
to do instead of talking to each other on it.
You know where Chelsea and I spot is now. It's
the podcast. As crazy as it sounds, we do this podcast.
It's the most intimate thirty minutes or whatever thirty minutes
(10:11):
plus that we have.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
With each other.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You actually connect.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I'm sitting literally at that same kitchen table that
I cannot have a conversation with her at, but we're
sitting in front of microphones and I can actually hear
her because I got headphones in.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
At least I think I hear her. Sometimes she does
what you guys do all the time. You weren't listening
at all. You just heard the exact same thing, just
like I got.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
The last podcast we did was two to five percent
and it was because her cancer. Only two to five
percent of people ever get that cancer that she had,
and she's like that freaks with her mind because there's
not a lot of people out there to go and
look as a resource. So in the middle of the podcast,
I go, so how many percent of it? So we
called it the two to five percent? What's going on day?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
How you doing?
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Good morning? Guys going well, hey, not me, but my
neighbors I've noticed, like when they're arguing, they have a toddler,
so they'll go in their car. But I live in
apartment complex. Yeah, so like if I'm in and out
of the house a lot in the morning or like
whenever it is, it's just kind of awkward. It's like
I can't see them, like just kind of look at
me and stop talking.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And then it's funny because they got to have a
quiet spot. But you almost wonder are they arguing or
are they having sex in the car, like what's going
on in there?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
No, No, they're definitely arguing because you can see like
the way they're talking to each other. And then they'll
go in the house and it's just really quiet.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, honestly, that's the time that I go for a walk.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I want to walk in and see what my neighbors
are talking about.