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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Call Mojo in the Morning eight four to four Mojo Live.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Eight four four sixty sixty five sixty five four rates.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Modje in the Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Whenever couples do this, I know it seems like it
would be like, Oh, this is gonna spice things up.
I just feel like anytime you're doing that, you're going
to even if you have quote unquote rules or guidelines
or whatever it is that you're gonna do, you're going
to have that temptation of something happening.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Right. Yeah, it doesn't have to.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, I think in ninety percent of the time, I
won't even say more than ninety percent, but at least
ninety percent of the time, it's got the capabilities of
doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I don't know, could you see yourself?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No, I don't want that, But I think if that's
what you agree to have in your relationship and everybody's
aware that or aware of the reasons why they're doing it,
and they stick.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
To that, it can work.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
But there's very much miscommunication here because when we first
talked to Christy, she said he set up the rules,
we set up strict boundaries, and then he's saying, oh, no,
there's none of that.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
What do you think is line we always say, we
always point to the guy. Well, he says, they, yeah,
he said that, there's not I don't know. Maybe they're misunderstood.
Maybe they they didn't put it in writing.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I don't know. But we did ask her after we
got done.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
We asked her, you know, how she was doing, and
we asked her thoughts on this girl that Christy. I
can't imagine this is a a relationship that's going to continue.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
What would you say to.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
That?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What was her name, Heather? What would you say to Heather?
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Oh, I'm sure that Heather has been told you kind
of lying about why this is flye or that I
agree to it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I so you don't.
Speaker 8 (02:08):
Blame her at this point, I trust her more than
I do him.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I don't know that she's gotten the full story because
I'm not getting the full story.
Speaker 8 (02:15):
So I don't He's been both, he's been booth, he's.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Been lying to me so clearly. I don't think.
Speaker 8 (02:20):
I don't know how we can say.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
That he's been trustworthy to her. I don't know. I mean,
I almost trust her more at this point that she
might not even know the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Interesting, she's trusting the third more than she trusts the
man that she married. Susan, what do you think about
this whole thing?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Hey, guys, good morning. So I just don't think Christie's wrong.
I feel like, regardless if there was rules set in
place or not, you're married, and that was her safe spot.
That's her, that's her husband. She should be able. They
should be able to do something like this together and
feel safe together and not wonder, oh, my husband's gonna
go off and be with another woman after that, because
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I allowed this to happen. And I've done this plenty
of times with my husband and not one time has
he ever had an inclement to step out of the relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Wait, hold on, stop for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Are you talking hypothetically like you're her or you saying
that about you?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You and your husband do this?
Speaker 8 (03:16):
Yeah, of course, I mean there's there's I mean, to
each their own, but we that's something that we like
to do, that we like to but that's my safe spot.
Never in my life would I ever think that my
husband would jump out of the relationship with the other woman.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Is it is it the same woman that you bring
in each time or is it a different woman?
Speaker 8 (03:38):
Because that's where that's where feelings start coming. That's where
you have to get to know people. We don't. We don't.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
We don't their situation don't.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Yeah, that's our situation. I mean, and we don't even
have rules. There was never rules set. I think he
just knows that people our marriage. Oh, Mojo, wouldn't you
want to know?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Are you looking for a six foot three, two hundred
and seventy pounds man only.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Got one shoulder working at the moment?
Speaker 8 (04:08):
No, never know, Lodo, that might be my specialty.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Look so who brought this to the relationship. Was this
a mutual discussion? Was this something you've done in previous relationships?
How did he come up?
Speaker 7 (04:20):
No?
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Actually I'm the one who brought it up. I am
not bisexual, I would say, but I definitely enjoy everyone anyone,
you know what I mean. If I find a vibe,
then I find a vibe. And we're all human, we're
all adults, and we all have sexual you know, natures,
and it's not wrong. I think what's wrong is keeping
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it a secret. I think what's wrong is telling your
husband or your wife. You know that's not how I feel,
but deep down that is how you feel. You're humans,
speak about it and if it's not. If you guys
are not in agreeance, there's this thing called agree to disagree.
You're allowed to have feelings and you're allowed to be
your own person. Just because you're married doesn't mean that
they get to decide. You know that. That's it. You
don't get to you don't get to think that way.
(05:02):
That's like telling your husband you can't watch porn. Come on,
be for real.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I'm just am amazed that this couple Christy and and
Daniel and then you and your guy. I just think
that you guys are playing with fire. I mean I
think that it's it's gonna end up burning you guys
one day, just like it burned those guys.
Speaker 8 (05:21):
I think. I think it opens us up. But I
think again too, you have to not not that there
necessarily has to be rules, but you have to have
the same morals. You have to be on the same page.
If you're not, that's what fire is. Playing with fire.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, it worked for them, they know they don't.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Just because we hook up with someone and bring someone
into our relationship doesn't mean we don't have morals for
our relationship. Again, it's to each their own. This is
our marriage and that's their marriage and this is your marriage.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Do you take pictures with these people?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And do you have one of those photo collages hanging
in your wall with all the friends? Absolutely not that
you don't ever take pictures with them, just just just
a reminisce.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, no, no scrap books.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
I'm so curious.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
So the rule for you guys, if you choose somebody
to you know, bring home or bring into the bedroom
with you, and then is the rule you can only
reach out to that person like together on a group text.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
There is no side like, what are the rules?
Speaker 8 (06:15):
No, we just don't. We don't reach out, we don't
get any contact information. We don't find someone that's here
close to us. Okay, you know, and it's never the
same person every time, because again it's it could happen
with me. I could fall in love with her too.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Where do you go to do this? Do you do
this in your guest room or where do you do this?
Speaker 8 (06:35):
No, we normally go to like hotels and stuff. We
have kids, so just like when our kids are gone
or at their other parents' house or it's obviously not
something we.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Do currently driving the kids to school talking to us.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
No, I already dropped them off.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This is great.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, thank you for being so honest with us, Susan.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Keep it going, Yeah, of course, take care of yourself.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I wonder if in the case of Christie, because they
they actually brought this woman into their relationship and she
kept saying, it's not a throuble, it's not a thrubble,
it's just sex. But it was the same person.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
If that that's.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
The problem, Josh, what was your question that you wanted
to ask about Susan that just.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Called Oh, I was just curious if they brought men
into or it was always women.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It didn't sound like it. I mean, I offered, but
she didn't seem like she was interested about the Susan.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
She was just talking about what's up Joey high?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Is that? Yeah, what's going on? Side note?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
First, proud of you, Megan, but I'm going to miss you.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
But to.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
The word of the Roses, my initial reaction was just
what the yeah, because it's the guy was just so
blatant about it, and one don't know who to believe
was there was actually rule set or not. But regardless,
in all my thirty years of hearing any sort of
situations or threatfle business whatever. It has never worked out
(08:12):
like people have planned.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Have you known anybody?
Speaker 8 (08:14):
I do.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
So my sister in law and her fiance a year ago,
two years ago, they decided they wanted to bring somebody
into their relationship to be a threatfle Well, it didn't
end up working out in my sister in law's favor,
(08:38):
and it was kind of it was definitely putting away
in the relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Megan, Megan, he didn't what do you mean?
Speaker 9 (08:46):
Then they they just cut it off because she could
tell that it would it probably would have led to that,
so they cut it off and said no more.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Megan.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Megan likes this because for you don't know this, Megan's
leaving us on Friday. She's going to do this as
her occupations full time for She's going to be the
third it's called the third dot com.
Speaker 10 (09:07):
But I know a girl, I know her, I know,
you know it's real, you know it probably exists, but
she lives with her. I don't know if she considers
some husband's partners whatever, but the three of them have
lived together for ten plus years, they've got kids together.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
For some people it works.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Why is it always benefit the guy where there's multiple women.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You know, I think it benefits her. Is her first caller.
She's not like she the one in there again our
rocks on, Donna, What did you want to say that
the husband was so nonchalant, like like it just didn't
even matter, and he didn't have any any failing for
what his wife was failing your point?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, he did sound a little sad, thought like he
got caught, like you could tell as much as he
had no remorse at the end. I think in the
beginning he was like, oh crap, I cannot believe this
just happened to me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What's up. It's Mojo in the morning.
Speaker 11 (10:02):
Good morning, how are you Mojo?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Good morning, guys, what's happening.
Speaker 11 (10:07):
So I feel like, uh, the husband was completely wrong.
She should not have to contact her at all. There
should be a no contact rule between the other woman
and the husband because those things can happen for the
other person to fall in love or catch feelings for
the other person. So when we do things like that,
I mean, my husband, no, there's no contact with him.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
With the other women at all, not never.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I like these people that just make their comments and
then go by the way. When I do this, I
mean it's like they don't tell us right after that.
You can't slip that in there. So you and your
are you guys like Susan the first caller, do you
guys just go find random people or do you have
a set person.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That you use?
Speaker 11 (10:45):
We have a set person?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And who is she or he? Is it somebody that's
a friend or relative, neighbor.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
I mean they're a friend.
Speaker 11 (10:52):
Now, how did you find We've been into each other
ninety parts, so their friend.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Now, how did you find them?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
How do you find them?
Speaker 11 (11:02):
Like the other first caller said, I'm a I'm a
hippie at her so I'm a vibe period.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
So I just naturally gravitate people.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So I naturally gravitate to people.
Speaker 11 (11:11):
So people always like, just gravitate to me no matter
where we go.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
It doesn't matter like what we're doing or anything like.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
So, so you bring them into the relationship, your your
husband or boyfriend, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Me my husband?
Speaker 11 (11:24):
I mean I do, yeah, I do. It's initially me.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Do you do it at home?
Speaker 7 (11:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
I have kids.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
She's dropping off right now.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
The cat hold on my kids, guys, do they do
they get to meet the kids?
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Yo?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
My kids, not.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Your kids. How old are your kids?
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Eighteen eleven and six and.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Four eighteen What I mean six and four she's talking
like this, That's what that's.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Transparency family needing family meaning hold on. Therapist Jen Mojo
in the morning show frequent caller iss to give her
thoughts on this one therapist gen tell me these people
aren't crazy doing this stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Or are they saying they.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Are not crazy?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Really?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
So this, yeah, this is more common than people realize.
And the issue a lot of times is people that
practice open relationships or are in pali relationships. You know,
they they taught, they have more communication, they understand the rules,
and they abide by the by these by it's called
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you know, their ethics and and the ethics of this practice.
When you involve a random person you made at a
bar or a neighbor, they're not you know, if they
are not aligned and really mindful or intentional with the
ethics of the of doing this, then that's when this
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stuff happens on the side. Now, of course it happens
you know, in other relationships too, just like in monogamous
relationships more. But if you're bringing in something someone who
again really is not practicing this, they really they make
you know, they don't take it as serious and they're
not abiding by the same rule.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Why is it when I got married and we were
doing the whole vow thing, it never talked about the
third person? Where where are these ethic? Like, where do
these contracts come into play?
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Just because they're not.
Speaker 10 (13:29):
Your ideals doesn't mean they're not older people.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But when you get married and you married before either
the pastor or even the chords, they kind of talk
about just the two of you guys.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
They don't ever bring in other people. This is when
I say, for better or worse, this is the better part.
Speaker 10 (13:45):
Do you think, like in any like polygamist relationships that's
not brought up? Well, there are lots of religious polygamist relationship.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
They don't have. That's that's it's not not around here,
are there. I don't think so. I think that's isn't
that more? Really it's not legal.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
Well no, I mean not that, not that they get
married obviously like legally and do it. But people can
have you know, religious practices and practices as well. So
what's going on. What happens here is people in you know,
open relationships, you know people even the queer community. There's
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a lot of communication going on. You know, they have
to constantly be communicating from the beginning of their relationship
what sex means to them. Well, you know, you know
what they're fetish is what they're talking They are openly
talking about this. Monogamous couples do not talk about this enough.
They don't talk about you know, they think sex is
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just penetration. They don't understand the extent of sex.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And so.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You know, do you think that this, though is could
lead to diseases? And like bringing all these people into
a relationship relationships, well, if you're just having sex with
each other, if in your your spouse, like there are
people like those Susan and then the other lady what
was her name MoMA for and but they're bringing multiples in.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
But unless everybody is coming to the relationship as a
virgin and then staying committed their entire lives, that's always
a fast Megan.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I agree with that, but I'm not saying that I
agree with them. Just the chances aren't great here of something, okay.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
So poly fidelity is where there is maybe a specific
so there's maybe a okay. I don't want to say
a group because that lends itself to thinking if this
is just some big orgy group or something. But there
might be like three, you know, four people involved in this,
and they they are tested and they communicate and they
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and they practice ethically not to go outside of of
their you know of this.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Okay, Now, if you're doing the testing and stuff like that,
then I get then I'm an understanding of that. But
I also think that in a lot of cases, and
I could be wrong, this could be a as generalization.
I've been known to make a few, but I think
that a lot of cases there is more so one
person more interested in this than the other, and the
other person is kind of.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Conned into this.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
Heay, but say you're in a marriage, right that's thirty
years old, and you're in love with your partner, and
your partner is like, I love you, but I'm lacking
something in my life, and you go, Okay, we can
try this because I love you and I don't want
to lose you, and I'm willing to make this compromise
to make you happy.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Can't you see it that way? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I would also say maybe get a Planet fitness, you know, membership, or.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think that there are people that.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Really happy.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
You always go to therapy let you know, let's try
to work it out. But you know, hey, listen to
each of those. I'm not saying that if Chelsea came
to me and said, hey, would you be interested in this,
that I wouldn't go, Oh, this would be kind of interesting,
like you know what I mean. It's kind of like
going to see their point. I mean, who wouldn't. It's exciting,
you know what I mean. The idea is fun. It's
a day of fun. But I think that I go
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to see her point every single day, you know, really.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And that kind of rot. I don't know.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
You don't even gotta wait in line, man, I just
want to snacks man, fair food baby.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
All right? That was there of the roses
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Whenever couples do this, I know it seems like it
would be like, Oh, this is gonna spice things up.
I just feel like anytime you're doing that, you're going
to even if you have quote unquote rules or guidelines
or whatever it is that you're gonna do, you're going
to have that temptation of something happening.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Right. Yeah, it doesn't have to.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, I think in ninety percent of the time, I
won't even say more than ninety percent, but at least
ninety percent of the time, it's got the capabilities of
doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I don't know, could you see yourself?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No, I don't want that, But I think if that's
what you agree to have in your relationship and everybody's
aware that or aware of the reasons why they're doing it,
and they stick.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
To that, it can work.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
But there's very much miscommunication here because when we first
talked to Christy, she said he set up the rules,
we set up strict boundaries, and then he's saying, oh, no,
there's none of that.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
What do you think is line we always say, we
always point to the guy. Well, he says, they, yeah,
he said that, there's not I don't know. Maybe they're misunderstood.
Maybe they they didn't put it in writing.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I don't know. But we did ask her after we
got done.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
We asked her, you know, how she was doing, and
we asked her thoughts on this girl that Christy. I
can't imagine this is a a relationship that's going to continue.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
What would you say to.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
That?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What was her name, Heather? What would you say to Heather?
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Oh, I'm sure that Heather has been told you kind
of lying about why this is flye or that I
agree to it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I so you don't.
Speaker 8 (02:08):
Blame her at this point, I trust her more than
I do him.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I don't know that she's gotten the full story because
I'm not getting the full story.
Speaker 8 (02:15):
So I don't He's been both, he's been booth, he's.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Been lying to me so clearly. I don't think.
Speaker 8 (02:20):
I don't know how we can say.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
That he's been trustworthy to her. I don't know. I mean,
I almost trust her more at this point that she
might not even know the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Interesting, she's trusting the third more than she trusts the
man that she married. Susan, what do you think about
this whole thing?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Hey, guys, good morning. So I just don't think Christie's wrong.
I feel like, regardless if there was rules set in
place or not, you're married, and that was her safe spot.
That's her, that's her husband. She should be able. They
should be able to do something like this together and
feel safe together and not wonder, oh, my husband's gonna
go off and be with another woman after that, because
(03:00):
I allowed this to happen. And I've done this plenty
of times with my husband and not one time has
he ever had an inclement to step out of the relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Wait, hold on, stop for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Are you talking hypothetically like you're her or you saying
that about you?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You and your husband do this?
Speaker 8 (03:16):
Yeah, of course, I mean there's there's I mean, to
each their own, but we that's something that we like
to do, that we like to but that's my safe spot.
Never in my life would I ever think that my
husband would jump out of the relationship with the other woman.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Is it is it the same woman that you bring
in each time or is it a different woman?
Speaker 8 (03:38):
Because that's where that's where feelings start coming. That's where
you have to get to know people. We don't. We don't.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
We don't their situation don't.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Yeah, that's our situation. I mean, and we don't even
have rules. There was never rules set. I think he
just knows that people our marriage. Oh, Mojo, wouldn't you
want to know?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Are you looking for a six foot three, two hundred
and seventy pounds man only.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Got one shoulder working at the moment?
Speaker 8 (04:08):
No, never know, Lodo, that might be my specialty.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Look so who brought this to the relationship. Was this
a mutual discussion? Was this something you've done in previous relationships?
How did he come up?
Speaker 7 (04:20):
No?
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Actually I'm the one who brought it up. I am
not bisexual, I would say, but I definitely enjoy everyone anyone,
you know what I mean. If I find a vibe,
then I find a vibe. And we're all human, we're
all adults, and we all have sexual you know, natures,
and it's not wrong. I think what's wrong is keeping
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it a secret. I think what's wrong is telling your
husband or your wife. You know that's not how I feel,
but deep down that is how you feel. You're humans,
speak about it and if it's not. If you guys
are not in agreeance, there's this thing called agree to disagree.
You're allowed to have feelings and you're allowed to be
your own person. Just because you're married doesn't mean that
they get to decide. You know that. That's it. You
don't get to you don't get to think that way.
(05:02):
That's like telling your husband you can't watch porn. Come on,
be for real.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I'm just am amazed that this couple Christy and and
Daniel and then you and your guy. I just think
that you guys are playing with fire. I mean I
think that it's it's gonna end up burning you guys
one day, just like it burned those guys.
Speaker 8 (05:21):
I think. I think it opens us up. But I
think again too, you have to not not that there
necessarily has to be rules, but you have to have
the same morals. You have to be on the same page.
If you're not, that's what fire is. Playing with fire.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, it worked for them, they know they don't.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Just because we hook up with someone and bring someone
into our relationship doesn't mean we don't have morals for
our relationship. Again, it's to each their own. This is
our marriage and that's their marriage and this is your marriage.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Do you take pictures with these people?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And do you have one of those photo collages hanging
in your wall with all the friends? Absolutely not that
you don't ever take pictures with them, just just just
a reminisce.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, no, no scrap books.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
I'm so curious.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
So the rule for you guys, if you choose somebody
to you know, bring home or bring into the bedroom
with you, and then is the rule you can only
reach out to that person like together on a group text.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
There is no side like, what are the rules?
Speaker 8 (06:15):
No, we just don't. We don't reach out, we don't
get any contact information. We don't find someone that's here
close to us. Okay, you know, and it's never the
same person every time, because again it's it could happen
with me. I could fall in love with her too.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Where do you go to do this? Do you do
this in your guest room or where do you do this?
Speaker 8 (06:35):
No, we normally go to like hotels and stuff. We
have kids, so just like when our kids are gone
or at their other parents' house or it's obviously not
something we.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Do currently driving the kids to school talking to us.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
No, I already dropped them off.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This is great.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, thank you for being so honest with us, Susan.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Keep it going, Yeah, of course, take care of yourself.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I wonder if in the case of Christie, because they
they actually brought this woman into their relationship and she
kept saying, it's not a throuble, it's not a thrubble,
it's just sex. But it was the same person.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
If that that's.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
The problem, Josh, what was your question that you wanted
to ask about Susan that just.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Called Oh, I was just curious if they brought men
into or it was always women.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It didn't sound like it. I mean, I offered, but
she didn't seem like she was interested about the Susan.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
She was just talking about what's up Joey high?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Is that? Yeah, what's going on? Side note?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
First, proud of you, Megan, but I'm going to miss you.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
But to.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
The word of the Roses, my initial reaction was just
what the yeah, because it's the guy was just so
blatant about it, and one don't know who to believe
was there was actually rule set or not. But regardless,
in all my thirty years of hearing any sort of
situations or threatfle business whatever. It has never worked out
(08:12):
like people have planned.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Have you known anybody?
Speaker 8 (08:14):
I do.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
So my sister in law and her fiance a year ago,
two years ago, they decided they wanted to bring somebody
into their relationship to be a threatfle Well, it didn't
end up working out in my sister in law's favor,
(08:38):
and it was kind of it was definitely putting away
in the relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Megan, Megan, he didn't what do you mean?
Speaker 9 (08:46):
Then they they just cut it off because she could
tell that it would it probably would have led to that,
so they cut it off and said no more.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Megan.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Megan likes this because for you don't know this, Megan's
leaving us on Friday. She's going to do this as
her occupations full time for She's going to be the
third it's called the third dot com.
Speaker 10 (09:07):
But I know a girl, I know her, I know,
you know it's real, you know it probably exists, but
she lives with her. I don't know if she considers
some husband's partners whatever, but the three of them have
lived together for ten plus years, they've got kids together.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
For some people it works.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Why is it always benefit the guy where there's multiple women.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You know, I think it benefits her. Is her first caller.
She's not like she the one in there again our
rocks on, Donna, What did you want to say that
the husband was so nonchalant, like like it just didn't
even matter, and he didn't have any any failing for
what his wife was failing your point?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, he did sound a little sad, thought like he
got caught, like you could tell as much as he
had no remorse at the end. I think in the
beginning he was like, oh crap, I cannot believe this
just happened to me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What's up. It's Mojo in the morning.
Speaker 11 (10:02):
Good morning, how are you Mojo?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Good morning, guys, what's happening.
Speaker 11 (10:07):
So I feel like, uh, the husband was completely wrong.
She should not have to contact her at all. There
should be a no contact rule between the other woman
and the husband because those things can happen for the
other person to fall in love or catch feelings for
the other person. So when we do things like that,
I mean, my husband, no, there's no contact with him.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
With the other women at all, not never.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I like these people that just make their comments and
then go by the way. When I do this, I
mean it's like they don't tell us right after that.
You can't slip that in there. So you and your
are you guys like Susan the first caller, do you
guys just go find random people or do you have
a set person.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That you use?
Speaker 11 (10:45):
We have a set person?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And who is she or he? Is it somebody that's
a friend or relative, neighbor.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
I mean they're a friend.
Speaker 11 (10:52):
Now, how did you find We've been into each other
ninety parts, so their friend.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Now, how did you find them?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
How do you find them?
Speaker 11 (11:02):
Like the other first caller said, I'm a I'm a
hippie at her so I'm a vibe period.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
So I just naturally gravitate people.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So I naturally gravitate to people.
Speaker 11 (11:11):
So people always like, just gravitate to me no matter
where we go.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
It doesn't matter like what we're doing or anything like.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
So, so you bring them into the relationship, your your
husband or boyfriend, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Me my husband?
Speaker 11 (11:24):
I mean I do, yeah, I do. It's initially me.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Do you do it at home?
Speaker 7 (11:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
I have kids.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
She's dropping off right now.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
The cat hold on my kids, guys, do they do
they get to meet the kids?
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Yo?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
My kids, not.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Your kids. How old are your kids?
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Eighteen eleven and six and.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Four eighteen What I mean six and four she's talking
like this, That's what that's.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Transparency family needing family meaning hold on. Therapist Jen Mojo
in the morning show frequent caller iss to give her
thoughts on this one therapist gen tell me these people
aren't crazy doing this stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Or are they saying they.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Are not crazy?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Really?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
So this, yeah, this is more common than people realize.
And the issue a lot of times is people that
practice open relationships or are in pali relationships. You know,
they they taught, they have more communication, they understand the rules,
and they abide by the by these by it's called
(12:40):
you know, their ethics and and the ethics of this practice.
When you involve a random person you made at a
bar or a neighbor, they're not you know, if they
are not aligned and really mindful or intentional with the
ethics of the of doing this, then that's when this
(13:00):
stuff happens on the side. Now, of course it happens
you know, in other relationships too, just like in monogamous
relationships more. But if you're bringing in something someone who
again really is not practicing this, they really they make
you know, they don't take it as serious and they're
not abiding by the same rule.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Why is it when I got married and we were
doing the whole vow thing, it never talked about the
third person? Where where are these ethic? Like, where do
these contracts come into play?
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Just because they're not.
Speaker 10 (13:29):
Your ideals doesn't mean they're not older people.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But when you get married and you married before either
the pastor or even the chords, they kind of talk
about just the two of you guys.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
They don't ever bring in other people. This is when
I say, for better or worse, this is the better part.
Speaker 10 (13:45):
Do you think, like in any like polygamist relationships that's
not brought up? Well, there are lots of religious polygamist relationship.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
They don't have. That's that's it's not not around here,
are there. I don't think so. I think that's isn't
that more? Really it's not legal.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
Well no, I mean not that, not that they get
married obviously like legally and do it. But people can
have you know, religious practices and practices as well. So
what's going on. What happens here is people in you know,
open relationships, you know people even the queer community. There's
(14:19):
a lot of communication going on. You know, they have
to constantly be communicating from the beginning of their relationship
what sex means to them. Well, you know, you know
what they're fetish is what they're talking They are openly
talking about this. Monogamous couples do not talk about this enough.
They don't talk about you know, they think sex is
(14:40):
just penetration. They don't understand the extent of sex.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And so.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You know, do you think that this, though is could
lead to diseases? And like bringing all these people into
a relationship relationships, well, if you're just having sex with
each other, if in your your spouse, like there are
people like those Susan and then the other lady what
was her name MoMA for and but they're bringing multiples in.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
But unless everybody is coming to the relationship as a
virgin and then staying committed their entire lives, that's always
a fast Megan.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I agree with that, but I'm not saying that I
agree with them. Just the chances aren't great here of something, okay.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
So poly fidelity is where there is maybe a specific
so there's maybe a okay. I don't want to say
a group because that lends itself to thinking if this
is just some big orgy group or something. But there
might be like three, you know, four people involved in this,
and they they are tested and they communicate and they
(15:45):
and they practice ethically not to go outside of of
their you know of this.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Okay, Now, if you're doing the testing and stuff like that,
then I get then I'm an understanding of that. But
I also think that in a lot of cases, and
I could be wrong, this could be a as generalization.
I've been known to make a few, but I think
that a lot of cases there is more so one
person more interested in this than the other, and the
other person is kind of.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Conned into this.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
Heay, but say you're in a marriage, right that's thirty
years old, and you're in love with your partner, and
your partner is like, I love you, but I'm lacking
something in my life, and you go, Okay, we can
try this because I love you and I don't want
to lose you, and I'm willing to make this compromise
to make you happy.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Can't you see it that way? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I would also say maybe get a Planet fitness, you know, membership, or.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think that there are people that.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Really happy.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
You always go to therapy let you know, let's try
to work it out. But you know, hey, listen to
each of those. I'm not saying that if Chelsea came
to me and said, hey, would you be interested in this,
that I wouldn't go, Oh, this would be kind of interesting,
like you know what I mean. It's kind of like
going to see their point. I mean, who wouldn't. It's exciting,
you know what I mean. The idea is fun. It's
a day of fun. But I think that I go
(17:00):
to see her point every single day, you know, really.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And that kind of rot. I don't know.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
You don't even gotta wait in line, man, I just
want to snacks man, fair food baby.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
All right? That was there of the roses
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