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Speaker 1 (00:20):
What what is she doing to you? She's doing nothing
to you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're you're the one doing I'm not talking to you,
I'm talking to her. Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I don't like how you're talking to her, and
I don't like how you're I don't know, I like
how you're talking to a last.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I don't give it how you think I'm talking to
my own fiance. This is between her and I.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
At least has he contacted you as he talked to you?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
No, yet.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Has anybody contacted you or have you been in contact
with any family members?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
All right, we have on the phone with us your sister,
so she's going to talk to you off the air.
We did call her because I want you to be
able to have somebody that that's there for you. Okay,
all right, I want you to I want you to
stay right here. We're gonna we'll connect you guys together
and we'll talk to you in a second.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Or the Roses, a fiance finds out that her husband
or sorry, his future husband, is cheating. She was suspicious
because he kept turning off the location services and then
he just goes off. Nikita, it's Mojo in the morning show. Hello,
(01:50):
the morning.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
That man is a monster and a manipulator. She needs
to learn.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
The way he slipped it on her is scary.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I'm a little worried because of her kind of giving
us a little bit more of a I don't think
he's in you know, ever been like this. You know,
this has never happened before.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
He's he's okay, and he was gonna show her his
true color once.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
They got married.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It makes me wonder though, sometimes when these people are
like that, I think they've been that way and you
just kind of looked past some of that, you know.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
And he's definitely possessive because I feel like he's the
type of person that doesn't want her to be with
anybody else, but he could be with whoever he wants
to do.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
Yep, it's crazy, and it's interesting you say something potentially
that was a look past, because I feel like oftentimes
when it comes to relationships, which you ignore ultimately becomes
what keeps the relationship.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh yeah, it becomes the it's like the cancer of
the relationship, right or it brings it down.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
What's up, Jamie?
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Hey, guys, my heart is hurting for her. How does
this man act like that when he's the one cheating.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I threw it back on her.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Does that make sense to me? Yeah, Like my heart
hurts from her.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
He should not.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
I cannot with this man. What a manchild.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
It's like all of the all of the words, and
think all of the cliche words, manchild, gas lighting, narcissist,
all of it, sociopath, like he is all heard.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah he's the one cheating, but.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Yet he's turning it on her like he's the victim,
Like my guy.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Now, knock it off, thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Sidney actually wants to bring up one section of that
War of the Roses that he said, and what was
that Sydney when he said.
Speaker 9 (03:42):
What are you doing to our relationship? It just kind
of like set me over the edge, Like it just
goes to show that he's there to manipulate her and
how he's feeling like he's trying to blame her for everything.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah, I'm literally I'd literally just google manipulator and it
has this guy's picture next to him.
Speaker 10 (04:01):
Bro, Like, guess the fact she just said that, like
you can't whenever you can't take accountability for your action
and you consistently pointing a finger at somebody else, like
that is the definition of manipulating.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah right, thank you, Sney.
Speaker 9 (04:15):
She needs to run away from him as fast as
she can Mojo on the morning.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Hi, Tiffany, Hey, how you doing good? You actually lived
through this?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes? I did. Fifteen years of it?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Fifteen years together or fifteen years marriage?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Fifteen years together, five years marriage to children?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Wow? And what was it that he was doing anything?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Anything and anything you can possibly think of? He was
doing behind my back? And I always had suspicions. People
told me I was stupid.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You need to go, you need to leave.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Oh no, like I can fix it. I can fix it.
I can No, you can't. A person like that is
a narcissistic manipulator and they will never And she needs
to run as fast as she can.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
What was the wake up call for you that got you?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
When I witnessed one of my children imitating him snorting.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I was always told he was never doing it around
our children, never doing it around our children. My eighteen
months old imitated him crushing up until the snort it
and I was like, Nope, that's that.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
I'm done.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I called him and we moved out that day. Honestly,
I called my parents. I said I needed somewhere to go.
I called him, I said I want a divorce, and
I moved out with my children that day.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
How are the kids doing?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
They're great now. My oldest is eighteen and he leaves
on the twenty seventh of this month for basic training
for the marine.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh that's awesome. What a y what a superstar. Well,
we're thanking him for his service. And what a mom
you are putting your kids first.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Thank you for the thank You have a great thing.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Amy. Also you had an axe Amy that was like.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
This, Oh, yes, yes, he we're actually going through a
divorce right now.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Really and would he use the same thing like blaming
it on you or telling you that you.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Were the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yes, he is very manipulative and abusive. And we've been
together for twenty four years.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Was it the location thing that got him caught or
what tipped you off that something else was going on?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
When we first got together, he would do the same thing.
He basically would like tell me lies, and I would
catch him in lies, and then he would gaslight me
and make me think I was crazy. And then it
started to escalate from there where he would get caught
and lies or he would get caught doing something he
wasn't supposed to and then he would get very angry,
(06:52):
like that guy. And it just triggered me this morning
when I was driving to work, I was like, wow,
that she needs to get away from him. And then
I had, you know, two small children when I first
met him, and then we had a baby together, and
I was stuck basically. So it took me twenty four
years and I just filed for divorce two weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Man, how did he react to that?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It was bad. He actually went to jail, He resisted
arrest when he got served to papers. Everything. I mean,
last Saturday was the most eye opener for me in
this twenty four year marriage. And she's definitely in an
abusive situation and she needs to get out now.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Man, well stay please stay stafe, and you know, don't
ever put yourself in a situation, you know where he's
allowed to be with you without people there to help you.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Okay, I have a team around me, believe me. This
is a blessing for me.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Good luck, Thank you, thank you so much. Bye, byereciate it, Natalie.
What's up? It's Mojo in the morning war the Roses.
This morning.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
By the way, the podcast is up. If you missed it,
I suggest you go listen to it. I mean, you
can always come back and listen to even this segment
if you're listening to us live. But you can hear
this guy from the moment that he picked up the
phone and the way he talked to Shannon, you can
tell that this guy's got some problems. Uh, what did
you want to say, Natalie.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, good morning Mojo. You know, just based off of
even what the last caller said, Like this is like
clear tactics of a gas lighter, classic narcissism, classic manipulation.
It ultimately leads to, you know, the person on the
other end receiving it, to question the reality, question their
(08:46):
decision making, feel as though they can't do something or
can't make a decision without the input of their partner,
which leads to like a codependency, which is what he wants, right,
Like he wants her to question her sense of self
and understanding because even when she was following her gut,
he was like, this isn't happening because of me. This
(09:06):
is happening because you set me up, right, like shifting
the blame to her completely and honestly, Like, as painful
as this is, for at least, I'm really really glad
that this is coming out now, you know what I mean,
because just like this last caller said, it can take
decades for somebody to get their grips released from their abuser.
(09:29):
And it just it really bothered me this morning. Like
I don't talk to you guys often, I've pulled on
and off through the years, but this one really really
riled me up. Like I want her to go now,
she needs to go go home, get your stuff, go,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, And we're having her talk with her sister and
we're hoping that her sister and some family there will
help her with this.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Yeah. And also like just so let you guys know,
there is so many resources in Wayne County for domestic violence,
for mental health, like just for all of those things
in general. Look into what our area provides. Look into
Open County Clinton area, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We're on Grand Rapids and Toledo and across the world too.
There's there's definitely stuff out there. And we'll get anybody
who needs any help. You call us, and I know
that we will put you in the right direction no
matter where you listen to us.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Absolutely, thank you, thank you so much. We appreciate it
all right. We are the Roses. The whole of the
second date update is Mojo in the morning
What what is she doing to you? She's doing nothing
to you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're you're the one doing I'm not talking to you,
I'm talking to her. Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I don't like how you're talking to her, and
I don't like how you're I don't know, I like
how you're talking to a last.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I don't give it how you think I'm talking to
my own fiance. This is between her and I.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
At least has he contacted you as he talked to you?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
No, yet.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Has anybody contacted you or have you been in contact
with any family members?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
All right, we have on the phone with us your sister,
so she's going to talk to you off the air.
We did call her because I want you to be
able to have somebody that that's there for you. Okay,
all right, I want you to I want you to
stay right here. We're gonna we'll connect you guys together
and we'll talk to you in a second.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Or the Roses, a fiance finds out that her husband
or sorry, his future husband, is cheating. She was suspicious
because he kept turning off the location services and then
he just goes off. Nikita, it's Mojo in the morning show. Hello,
(01:50):
the morning.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
That man is a monster and a manipulator. She needs
to learn.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
The way he slipped it on her is scary.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I'm a little worried because of her kind of giving
us a little bit more of a I don't think
he's in you know, ever been like this. You know,
this has never happened before.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
He's he's okay, and he was gonna show her his
true color once.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
They got married.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It makes me wonder though, sometimes when these people are
like that, I think they've been that way and you
just kind of looked past some of that, you know.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
And he's definitely possessive because I feel like he's the
type of person that doesn't want her to be with
anybody else, but he could be with whoever he wants
to do.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
Yep, it's crazy, and it's interesting you say something potentially
that was a look past, because I feel like oftentimes
when it comes to relationships, which you ignore ultimately becomes
what keeps the relationship.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh yeah, it becomes the it's like the cancer of
the relationship, right or it brings it down.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
What's up, Jamie?
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Hey, guys, my heart is hurting for her. How does
this man act like that when he's the one cheating.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I threw it back on her.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Does that make sense to me? Yeah, Like my heart
hurts from her.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
He should not.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
I cannot with this man. What a manchild.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
It's like all of the all of the words, and
think all of the cliche words, manchild, gas lighting, narcissist,
all of it, sociopath, like he is all heard.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah he's the one cheating, but.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Yet he's turning it on her like he's the victim,
Like my guy.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Now, knock it off, thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Sidney actually wants to bring up one section of that
War of the Roses that he said, and what was
that Sydney when he said.
Speaker 9 (03:42):
What are you doing to our relationship? It just kind
of like set me over the edge, Like it just
goes to show that he's there to manipulate her and
how he's feeling like he's trying to blame her for everything.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah, I'm literally I'd literally just google manipulator and it
has this guy's picture next to him.
Speaker 10 (04:01):
Bro, Like, guess the fact she just said that, like
you can't whenever you can't take accountability for your action
and you consistently pointing a finger at somebody else, like
that is the definition of manipulating.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah right, thank you, Sney.
Speaker 9 (04:15):
She needs to run away from him as fast as
she can Mojo on the morning.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Hi, Tiffany, Hey, how you doing good? You actually lived
through this?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes? I did. Fifteen years of it?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Fifteen years together or fifteen years marriage?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Fifteen years together, five years marriage to children?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Wow? And what was it that he was doing anything?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Anything and anything you can possibly think of? He was
doing behind my back? And I always had suspicions. People
told me I was stupid.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You need to go, you need to leave.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Oh no, like I can fix it. I can fix it.
I can No, you can't. A person like that is
a narcissistic manipulator and they will never And she needs
to run as fast as she can.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
What was the wake up call for you that got you?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
When I witnessed one of my children imitating him snorting.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I was always told he was never doing it around
our children, never doing it around our children. My eighteen
months old imitated him crushing up until the snort it
and I was like, Nope, that's that.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
I'm done.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I called him and we moved out that day. Honestly,
I called my parents. I said I needed somewhere to go.
I called him, I said I want a divorce, and
I moved out with my children that day.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
How are the kids doing?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
They're great now. My oldest is eighteen and he leaves
on the twenty seventh of this month for basic training
for the marine.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh that's awesome. What a y what a superstar. Well,
we're thanking him for his service. And what a mom
you are putting your kids first.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Thank you for the thank You have a great thing.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Amy. Also you had an axe Amy that was like.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
This, Oh, yes, yes, he we're actually going through a
divorce right now.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Really and would he use the same thing like blaming
it on you or telling you that you.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Were the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yes, he is very manipulative and abusive. And we've been
together for twenty four years.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Was it the location thing that got him caught or
what tipped you off that something else was going on?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
When we first got together, he would do the same thing.
He basically would like tell me lies, and I would
catch him in lies, and then he would gaslight me
and make me think I was crazy. And then it
started to escalate from there where he would get caught
and lies or he would get caught doing something he
wasn't supposed to and then he would get very angry,
(06:52):
like that guy. And it just triggered me this morning
when I was driving to work, I was like, wow,
that she needs to get away from him. And then
I had, you know, two small children when I first
met him, and then we had a baby together, and
I was stuck basically. So it took me twenty four
years and I just filed for divorce two weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Man, how did he react to that?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It was bad. He actually went to jail, He resisted
arrest when he got served to papers. Everything. I mean,
last Saturday was the most eye opener for me in
this twenty four year marriage. And she's definitely in an
abusive situation and she needs to get out now.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Man, well stay please stay stafe, and you know, don't
ever put yourself in a situation, you know where he's
allowed to be with you without people there to help you.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Okay, I have a team around me, believe me. This
is a blessing for me.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Good luck, Thank you, thank you so much. Bye, byereciate it, Natalie.
What's up? It's Mojo in the morning war the Roses.
This morning.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
By the way, the podcast is up. If you missed it,
I suggest you go listen to it. I mean, you
can always come back and listen to even this segment
if you're listening to us live. But you can hear
this guy from the moment that he picked up the
phone and the way he talked to Shannon, you can
tell that this guy's got some problems. Uh, what did
you want to say, Natalie.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, good morning Mojo. You know, just based off of
even what the last caller said, Like this is like
clear tactics of a gas lighter, classic narcissism, classic manipulation.
It ultimately leads to, you know, the person on the
other end receiving it, to question the reality, question their
(08:46):
decision making, feel as though they can't do something or
can't make a decision without the input of their partner,
which leads to like a codependency, which is what he wants, right,
Like he wants her to question her sense of self
and understanding because even when she was following her gut,
he was like, this isn't happening because of me. This
(09:06):
is happening because you set me up, right, like shifting
the blame to her completely and honestly, Like, as painful
as this is, for at least, I'm really really glad
that this is coming out now, you know what I mean,
because just like this last caller said, it can take
decades for somebody to get their grips released from their abuser.
(09:29):
And it just it really bothered me this morning. Like
I don't talk to you guys often, I've pulled on
and off through the years, but this one really really
riled me up. Like I want her to go now,
she needs to go go home, get your stuff, go,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, And we're having her talk with her sister and
we're hoping that her sister and some family there will
help her with this.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Yeah. And also like just so let you guys know,
there is so many resources in Wayne County for domestic violence,
for mental health, like just for all of those things
in general. Look into what our area provides. Look into
Open County Clinton area, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We're on Grand Rapids and Toledo and across the world too.
There's there's definitely stuff out there. And we'll get anybody
who needs any help. You call us, and I know
that we will put you in the right direction no
matter where you listen to us.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Absolutely, thank you, thank you so much. We appreciate it
all right. We are the Roses. The whole of the
second date update is Mojo in the morning
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