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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the We Don't Podcast starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.
On this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Coming up, on this episode of the Weedned podcast, I
have no idea what we're going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're going to talk about the power of no and
owning your shit.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Oh okay, all right, let's go, let's do it. I
don't know if I want to start this one.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, so after this week, after this podcast week, you
will have to refer to me on this podcast as
hall of fame husband.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Now husband husband or husband husband husband.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, I have certain words I cannot say and h U, S, B,
A and D.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
You'll always add a tea.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I always added tea to it. It's kind of like
how people do Kroger's and Fords and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They pluralize everything. I'm kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But your sister Pat is like that too. She always says, husband,
I wonder.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
If maybe that's my dad, you know, and.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
The fact that he But then why don't all of
you say and stuff?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I don't know, it's weird. I don't know how that is.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
It's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Are you excited for this week?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I am, It's going to be very exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I am, I'm excited. I'm also kind of filling a
little melancholy. I don't know what it is. It's weird,
but I'm part of me wonders if this is kind
of hitting me a little bit, because maybe it's an
age thing or something, because usually you don't go into
the Hall of Fame or you get you know, called
(02:03):
the Hall of Famer until you're pretty much done with
your career, and part of me wonders if maybe that
is a little bit of it. Although I do attribute
a lot of this to the fact that it's been
a real emotional last you know, summer that we've had,
and it wasn't just your surgery. Your surgery obviously was
the kapper, but it was kind of everything that happened
between the shoulder surgery and then you know, finding out,
(02:29):
you know about just some friends and stuff and some
difficulties with friends, but then your situation and yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah, which all came to a head this last week,
and which is why part of this is the power
of no and you unleashed on me one day, which
happens in a marriage, but you kind of exploded on me,
(02:59):
lost your and later you said to me that the
reason is just because you just don't say no to everyone,
and you feel like you're everyone's coming to you for everything, and.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
So we're going to have to learn how to say
no to people.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I have the hardest time with boundaries. And I know
that's a big deal in a lot of people's lives,
but I have.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
A really really hard time with.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
People who I really don't need to have boundaries with
that are really close to me, just assuming that. And
maybe I'm the one that's assuming, but that I'm just
going to do something and I'm going to help them
or I'm going to drop everything for them.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Well, why do you think that they do that?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Because I think that I offer. Yeah, so you don't.
Let's not think because you do.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Offer, I do.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So when people when you offer, I think you offer
one because it's genuine. You offer too, because that's just
who you are as a person, and I think that
you don't think that a lot of people take you
up on it. What you have to realize, though, is
if you throw a handout, people more than likely are
(04:17):
going to take it and instead of you know, when
people I think sometimes when people are going through hard
times or need money or need help, or whatever the
case may be, sometimes they're telling you just because maybe
they want your help. But other times they're just telling
you because they want you to listen. And I think
that you're a solver and you want to solve it,
(04:38):
and you are out there solving everyone's problems and fixing
what you can fix and doing what you can do,
which takes away from your daily tasks that are already
filling your calendar. Because in general, you put fires out
at the radio station, you help salespeople with their clients.
(05:00):
You you are always above and beyond, so that already strips
away stuff, and then add bonus things that happen people
needing stuff, and you immediately throw yourself into save your mode,
and then there's no time left for you. Or if
(05:21):
I ask you for something, or if I don't do
what you need me to do or wanted me to do,
then instead of me becoming your which is what I
told you, I want to be your soft landing place,
But what I don't want to be is your punching bag.
And that's what ends up happening because you blow up,
which again, let me be the person you blow up too,
(05:46):
not on and it turns into I think, everything you
want to say to everyone else you say to me,
which again I think is very common in a marriage,
by the way, which is why I'm bringing this up
on this podcast. So I think that you need to
for your peace of mind and the sake of our relationship,
(06:09):
start having boundaries and learning when to say no.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Or you need to get a therapist and talk.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, I do have a therapist.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I just have and make an appointment.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, because you've got to figure out Because again I
it is my job as your wife and it's your
job as my husband to be a soft landing space
and for us to tell each other everything.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
What does a thought soft landing space mean to me?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It means a place where you can come to and
you can unload everything and that person listens and understands
and they can help.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
That's what that means to me.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, But instead I literally felt like you're punching bag.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, So let's go.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Back real quick on a couple of things, because I
do want to talk about that specific day.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Because I want to.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think it will help you know whoever's listening if
they've ever had this happen to them, where they just
were so frustrated. Everything was going, you know, wrong, or
maybe not wrong, but everything was just going and they
just got to a point where they just said, I
can't take it anymore, and they just blew up, and they,
(07:17):
like you said, blew up with the person that they feel,
you know, most.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Safe with. So go back real quick to.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
People asking or telling you the things that are going
with them and me wanting to save them or to
help them. I believe in a lot of cases that that.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Can be true.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think though in the ones that have been happening recently, though,
it isn't that it is them coming to me needing
me to do something. And I'll give an example of
something that is hypothetical because this is not the case
because the situations are so personal to the people that
I'm friends with. When somebody calls you and says, hey,
(08:02):
what are you doing this weekend and you say, oh,
not much, Hey, I need help moving, that is not
them saying they want you to give them advice on
who to call to be a mover. That means they're
asking you to help move the people that have asked
me for things lately have pretty much said I need
(08:23):
you to I need you to do this. And the
problem is typically I am the person that people will
come to and say, hey, I'm kind of struggling with this,
and I'll say.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Hey, I got an idea I want don't let me
make a phone call for you.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case lately, and I have
tried to get better at when I know I have
too much shit going on, like when work is really
coming to a point where we're in our busy season,
which we're getting to that right now with the holidays
and everything coming up. I usually don't accept anything at
this time of the year, and you know that summertime,
(08:59):
I'm more willing to help people. In the beginning of
the year, I'm more willing to help people. But at
the end of the year, it's too much. Like we
have so much going on at work. We're trying to
finish a fourth quarter in a big way, you know,
both ratings wise, but also helping out the you know,
the company revenue wise, and then we try to do
(09:20):
our breaking and entering Christmas wishes and get to you know,
more and more wishes which means we're out doing things,
shopping for families, delivering to families and stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So that's that's to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I do got to get better at just being able
to say to some people, hey, I just can't do
it right now.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And with everything that happened to you.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And with your recovery, I had a perfect.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Excuse to be able to say, hey, I can't do it.
You know, I can't help you.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
My problem is that a lot of the stuff that
has come up has been big stuff, and.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I do feel.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Bad and I and the other day when I came home,
it was other people's problems, a little opp and then
it was this week, we're going to Chicago, and we
have a lot of people coming to Chicago with us,
and it's a lot of preparation getting ready for that,
(10:27):
and I just felt overwhelmed with but by the way
coming up.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And by the way you and I have been just
because it's not like this came out of the blue
this week that's coming up. So part of that preparation
is something I've been asking you about for months and
it has been put off because.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
You are a procrastinator.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You wait until the last minute for stuff, so that's
something that I'm not going to own because I have
asked you time and time again what can.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
We do for this?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What do you want to do for this? And you
were like, we'll figure it out later. We'll figure out later.
And then one of your big blow ups on me
was you were so upset that I wasn't planning stuff
for you that I have no idea who is attending,
and I've asked you.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
So that's why it's like, listen, you owned you. I
own me. I know, like when.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You were so angry with me for that and telling
me that you had to plan your whole Hall of
Fame thing, Well, I'm not included in anything.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I don't I'm not the one getting in the emails
for the.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Tables for this thing.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Just to kind of let everybody know because otherwise it
sounds like we're there's so much weird stuff. To go
to the Hall of Fame dinner, you have to make arrangements,
like people will tell you, hey, I want to come
to the dinner, or you ask people like I specifically,
I asked all my family, all my brothers and sisters,
you know, the boys and their significant others, some personal friends,
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former members of the show, and then the radio station
had all of the people. They took care of everybody
from the show as well as salespeople. And when you
do it, you have to invite them. Then you also
have to get like their orders for dinner.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Like I didn't know any of this came into it,
and I got to get better at the moment that
somebody sends me that instead of saying, Okay, well, the
deadline is October the seventeenth, and I got this saying
you know October first, I got to October first. Just go, hey, guys,
(12:29):
here it is. Your deadline is October fifteenth. Because I
give myself a day or two to be able to
send it in. And I am I'm a horrible procrastinator.
If I was going to say that, you know, the
things that I do the best, I would probably say that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I do the show the best.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And I think I'm good with my you know, the kids,
and I think I'm a mediocre kind of husband, but
I do Okay. The thing I do the worst is
I put everything off and wait till the last minute.
And unfortunately I'm seeing it in some of our kids too,
Like I see Luke has become a little bit like that,
and Joe to a certain let's.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Let's get back to the task at hand here. So
the whole, the whole thing was though I felt like, again,
you were upset about a bunch of things that were
not in my control and in yours.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And I should have said.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
What I should have said to you is and I'm
sorry to interrupt you is when all that stuff, I
can't do it, But I did apologize. I normally don't apologize.
I'm getting better at that. I should have said to
you weeks ago, hey can you handle this for me?
And I should have asked you to do it, and
I didn't, and I assumed and because of that, my
(13:45):
frustrations came out on you. Of everything mounting that the
last week or so, I have not looked forward at
all to this week, and I'm starting to look forward
to it now because because I realized, yeah, that is
it is such a huge deal, and honestly I was.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I've been more so than anything. And it's funny.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I'm procrastinating on my speech to that I'm gonna say,
but more so than anything, I've been reading up on
the Radio Hall of Fame because I'm like I don't
want to like go there and just go This is
my assumption of it, because I know a lot about
it because I used to go there as a kid.
But I want to like really know the history of
the industry that I'm about to be honored with us saying.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And one of the things that.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Has made me get excited about it is reading up
about the people that put this whole thing together, some
of the first people that I've been in it, you know,
and how it took a long time for certain people
to ever get in it.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Sure, you know, because I wonder what's going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Kind of like a wedding in the sense that it's
like that you know your wedding, you build up to it,
and then you're in it. In the moment, you really
can't enjoy it, meant and you look back and like, oh,
I wish I would have. But the good thing is
that we will be able to go to the Hall
of Fame, correct, Like there's a place that we can
go in see your picture in there.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So maybe they just opened and here's what they moved
last year. They were in a really shitty spot. It
was in the uh the House of Blues building in
Chicago and they it had kind of like a really
bad spot and they just recently moved. Yeah, because the
it was like basically an afterthought part of it. And
(15:30):
now they're in a much cooler spot. And I guess
they've done a bunch of press in Chicago with some
of the local TV stations.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well maybe next summer we can take a weekend and
go visit it and you can really soak it in
and enjoy it then, because I think you're going to
be a lot in the moment or not, I no.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Can I tell you something.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Here's the thing, and I want to get back to
everything that we're going to talk about in a second.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I am so excited to get to do this.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Weekend with my family, the boys, you, my brother's sisters,
but also my radio family. Like it's really cool that
the radio station. I did not know how many people
were coming, Like Colleen and Tony have been overwhelming me
with how many people are coming.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Really a special clients.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I mean Paul Lance from Imagine Theaters coming to the
thing and HiT's on his own. But the thing that
also is cool is that then we get this great
thing that we're doing on Thursday Friday, We're going to
get to celebrate with my family and get to see
my brothers and sisters and hopefully get a family picture,
because I think that we don't do that enough. But
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then it's we're staying in Chicago because Jacob is getting
gradut getting honored with his graduation, and we did not
get to see Jacob graduate when he graduated from college.
He's graduating with a doctorate degree in psychology. And when
he graduate from DePaul from college, he had we had
COVID and we had to do a virtual graduation and
(17:05):
it was kind of fun graduation, yeah, as a YouTube graduation.
But this is going to be really so so cool
because he deserves to be recognized and he deserves to
be the center of the attention for us.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So so I'm kind of cool with that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Now back to talking about my problem. I'm sorry. I'm
really really sorry. I know you hear that a lot
from me.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's good to hear, by the way.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
But I'm really sorry.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm sorry that I've kind of done a poor job
of taking care of myself. I thought I was really
doing a good job for a while there. I was
going to Dennis, my therapist, and I know you sometimes
think I overly therapy, therapy, go to therapy, but I
really do enjoy it. It's actually something that I like
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to do. I'm going to get back to it and
focus on my mental health a little bit more. I
do think that you do take the brunt of things
from me. Do you think I know?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
But I also know this.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I don't do it often, and I'm not trying to
make myself seem better for that. But I think for
the most part, we haven't had one of those moments
in a long time.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I wouldn't say long.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I feel like there's been uh huh, and listen again,
this is normal. It's not like it's this is what
marriage is. By the way, I think that unfortunately with
you sometimes with you, sometimes it gets you wait until
the very end, and so the blow is very big. Yeah,
where I had said to you before, if you would
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have come to me and said, I need your help
with this because I'm not a mind reader, so I
can't and I'm dealing with my own shit. And not
to make that an excuse, but it is my reality.
I am so happy and excited for you with this
Hall of fame, like it is so amazing. I was
so happy for you. The first year I threw you
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a party and you know, and then this year I
had another party. Like, I'm so excited and so happy
that you are being honored by everyone and all of
these people get to see you have this honor. I'm
in my own little storm over here too, and selfishly,
that's where I need to be. I can, by the way,
I can be in both places, but I am it
(19:34):
is about me a little bit for me, and this
this week is going to be all about you. I
promise you one hundred percent. Let me talk.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
But no, I wasn't. I was working out.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
But I have been in my storm, you know, wrapped
up in my little storm over here. It's getting better
every day, but I am in my own storm. I
just need you to say to me, hey, can you
help me with this? And I have never said no.
I have never said I won't help. I've always been
(20:07):
there to do that for you. But I am not
a mind reader and I can only ask so many times.
And if you blow me off, then then it's on you.
It is on you.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And do you feel also that it's weird to celebrate.
I know it sounds crazy, because I do know what
you're going through.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I think that's a bit two separate things. We
can do two things. I'm going to be doing two
things because two things are happening. I can be dealing
with what's going on with me mentally and what I
have to deal with for the rest of my life
because it is the rest of my life, and I
can also be there to celebrate you. Two things are
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going to be happening in my mind that day. One
thing should be happening in your mind that day, and
it should be that you're being.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Honored and you need to be in the moment, and you.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Need because guess what, my reality is always going to
be there, not going away.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
You for that moment.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Need to be in the moment and relish everyone coming
in for you and your family being there to support you.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But I think that there's a bit of me that
thinks about you know, those people that get are getting
married enough and you know the bride's dad dies right
before the wedding, and do you still go to have
the wedding and celebrate and he's not there to celebrate
or yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I do want to know why called life and shit happens.
So you have a choice, You have a choice that
day to get up and maybe even tomorrow get up
and be like, you know what, this is starting an
amazing week in my life and my career, and it's
everything that I've worked for and I'm going to enjoy it,
and you should enjoy it. I think part of you
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that's from your childhood where maybe you feel like you
can't fully enjoy everything. And again that's something you should
take it up with your therapist because that's not on me,
that's on you. But again, two things can be true,
two things can be true, focused on one for you
for the week, let it be. And you know what,
we're not only celebrating you. We are celebrating in Jacob
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and it is an amazing week for our family and
we need.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, I do. I also do think that it's tough
for me. I don't like, as weird as it is,
that I am the center of attention with work. I
don't like necessarily always that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I chuckle at that, because you love to be the
center of I really don't.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't like opening gifts in front of people. I
don't like any of that stuff. You know that, I mean,
I listen.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I don't know that actually because you don't. I do
know you to.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Bet we have Christmas. I hate sitting there opening gifts.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I really do well then I make I'll make sure
you don't have any out open.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Saves me time and saves me money. I kind of
like that. I think that to kind of go through
what we're going through. And I know that there are
so many people that you know, when they listen to
this podcast, we always get those that will comment about
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you know. I like that you guys are willing to
talk about not be real the happiest things that go.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
On, which we have a lot to be happy about,
by the way, we really do.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
But I really do think that there is a bit
of I have to prioritize things in my life and
I have to And again I don't necessarily prioritize I
think one of the most important things and it's myself.
And I don't focus on taking care of my health.
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I'm taking care of that physically and mentally, but also
taking care of what is going on on my day
to day life. That maybe sometimes I coast a little
bit on the day to day stuff and then really
pour myself into some of the harder to help things.
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And I think if I really focus on my day
to day and focus on myself personally, I think when
somebody does come up to me and says, hey, I
need help, there may be a okay, I can help you,
or like you said, just be honest and say, you
know what, I here's the deal. If there's somebody that
you can talk to and I'll figure out who that is,
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or you know, put my two cents in as far
as an opinion is concerned. But I can't physically, you know,
be there to help you at this moment right now
because I'm just too struggling. Or if we can put
it off for a little bit, I'll help you when I'm.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Through with all this, which I think is a very
common thing because when you said to me the other day,
you know, I do for everyone else. I never take
care of myself. I'm always last, And I thought, I
think everyone feels that way. I mean I've felt that way,
and I always put you and the boys ahead of everyone,
(25:04):
right like, because that was just it was. My whole
life was about you one hundred percent and my kids.
And then when the kids left, and then we of
course went through problems and issues.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
But then when Luke left.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It was like I really struggled because I don't have
the kids here to make my life about and I
have had the luxury of doing a lot of self
care for myself lately, which unfortunately now I had my
little bump.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
In the road.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But I think that I think we all feel that
way a little bit, Like we all can say, gosh,
we make everything about everyone The majority of us can
say we make everything about everyone else, and we're the
last person. And maybe part of that is because this
whole self care thing is when you watch someone on
Instagram or a commercial like doing self care, they're in
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a face mass can, they're have cucumbers, you know, they're
watching their Netflix or whatever like there there's just and
you think, gosh, I don't have time to do that.
And if that's what self care looks like or they're
doing whatever, maybe your version of self care is something
that is your reality, but in your head it's not.
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And I'm not diminishing what you're going through or saying
what you're going through isn't real.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
But maybe you're and figure out what that is.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Maybe maybe this is getting back to talking to your
therapist or working. I think a lot of your and
it was you had to do it, but you really
enjoyed it and your appointments went really long. But I
think a lot of your self care recently was your
physical therapy because you got to talk to her and
they would give you massage and you were again you
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had to do it, but it was something that you,
you know, so instead of So there is a little
bit of self care in there. Maybe your self care
can be your drives home and you're talking to people
that you want to talk to, not the people that
you have to talk to. But then that's a choice too,
Like you know, I'm not gonna I'm going to talk
to that, I'm going to give myself this fifty minute
(27:10):
car ride and talk to someone that I want to
talk to, or not talk at all. Yeah, you know,
like their choices and that.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And honestly, I think a lot for me too, is
I've gotten away from praying that I used to be
really focused in the morning about going into work and praying,
and it definitely helps. I mean, yeah, a spiritual connection
definitely helps. Yeah, and I stopped doing that. Haven't gone
to church in a while, you know what I mean. Yeah,
(27:38):
it's that's been kind of a.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
And if that's important to you, then go do it. Yeah, like,
go do it. Make make time for yourself to go
do it. Don't expect everyone else to jump on your
well little and wagon for that church.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
We need God.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Thank God for all the stuff that God has done
for you.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Excuse me, I do. I don't have to do it
side of a church.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Thank God for me.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Not really, not all the time. No, of course I do.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Of course I do, all right, So real quick, I
wanted to wrap up this with We went to Michigan
State to go see Luke, and he was sober, which
was amazing, Like it was really nice to be able
to spend time with our son with everybody else drunk,
and Luke was like sober showing us around and getting
(28:27):
us in, which was pretty cool. I think maybe he
was focused on trying to behave himself while.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
We were there.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
He had just had his hay rides.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So the sororities and fraternities have a hay ride night,
so he went on his fraternity hay ride night, and
then he went on his friend's sorority hey ride night,
so back to back and when they drank those borgs.
So he was a little done with believe me. He
was partaking and was going to partake after we left,
(28:57):
but he said he was looking forward to today.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Okay, this week we're going to be all of us together,
all five of us, and this is usually the time
where I see the happiest Chelsea. Yeah, being around the kids.
We got to make sure that you get pictures.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Just one.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I'd like one of me and my kids and then
one of the five of us for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And what do you think Jacob should get us for
a graduation gift?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Because I think he get us.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, because he's going into his life right now debt free,
and I think that maybe he should buy us a
nice gift.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
What do you think what did Joe get us for
going into his life jet free? I don't know, that's nothing.
Maybe so he gets us or nothing. No, you go
enjoy your life.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That's what they I would like, Jacob, because I know
Jacob listens to this, Jacob, I would like I don't know,
I would like to have a graduation.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
No, he did say to me.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
He did say to me that, because he said, don't
feel bad for not coming and visiting me at undergrad.
I was the one that really pushed that and he said,
if I could go back and talk to my eighteen
year old, eighteen year old self, I would say, Jacob,
let them.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
You know you need to see that.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Wait, he said that he did.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
He said it today on our phone conversation, and so if.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
He wanted just you or me to no, that's not
what he said.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
He said he was owning it. He was taking ownership
of the fact that he said, it's not your fault.
Don't feel bad that you didn't come and see me.
I was trying to figure myself out. So I was
trying to keep you guys at arm's length too, not
that we didn't talk or not, but we didn't go and.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Visit him, visit them as much as we Yeah, right right, So.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And he you know what it's he said, it was
a two way street basically, And so he said, you
do not feel bad.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Oh God, it's never about you. Why would are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I like that we get this thirty minutes a week
that we can actually talk to each.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Other, and it's the only time we really do and
we did not do the owner own your shit.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
We'll do that.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
No, real, What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (30:56):
What do you think it means?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Hell? Okay, that'll be the next podcast E
Welcome to the We Don't Podcast starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.
On this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Coming up, on this episode of the Weedned podcast, I
have no idea what we're going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're going to talk about the power of no and
owning your shit.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Oh okay, all right, let's go, let's do it. I
don't know if I want to start this one.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, so after this week, after this podcast week, you
will have to refer to me on this podcast as
hall of fame husband.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Now husband husband or husband husband husband.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, I have certain words I cannot say and h U, S, B,
A and D.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
You'll always add a tea.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I always added tea to it. It's kind of like
how people do Kroger's and Fords and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They pluralize everything. I'm kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But your sister Pat is like that too. She always says, husband,
I wonder.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
If maybe that's my dad, you know, and.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
The fact that he But then why don't all of
you say and stuff?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I don't know, it's weird. I don't know how that is.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
It's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Are you excited for this week?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I am, It's going to be very exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I am, I'm excited. I'm also kind of filling a
little melancholy. I don't know what it is. It's weird,
but I'm part of me wonders if this is kind
of hitting me a little bit, because maybe it's an
age thing or something, because usually you don't go into
the Hall of Fame or you get you know, called
(02:03):
the Hall of Famer until you're pretty much done with
your career, and part of me wonders if maybe that
is a little bit of it. Although I do attribute
a lot of this to the fact that it's been
a real emotional last you know, summer that we've had,
and it wasn't just your surgery. Your surgery obviously was
the kapper, but it was kind of everything that happened
between the shoulder surgery and then you know, finding out,
(02:29):
you know about just some friends and stuff and some
difficulties with friends, but then your situation and yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah, which all came to a head this last week,
and which is why part of this is the power
of no and you unleashed on me one day, which
happens in a marriage, but you kind of exploded on me,
(02:59):
lost your and later you said to me that the
reason is just because you just don't say no to everyone,
and you feel like you're everyone's coming to you for everything, and.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
So we're going to have to learn how to say
no to people.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I have the hardest time with boundaries. And I know
that's a big deal in a lot of people's lives,
but I have.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
A really really hard time with.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
People who I really don't need to have boundaries with
that are really close to me, just assuming that. And
maybe I'm the one that's assuming, but that I'm just
going to do something and I'm going to help them
or I'm going to drop everything for them.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Well, why do you think that they do that?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Because I think that I offer. Yeah, so you don't.
Let's not think because you do.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Offer, I do.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So when people when you offer, I think you offer
one because it's genuine. You offer too, because that's just
who you are as a person, and I think that
you don't think that a lot of people take you
up on it. What you have to realize, though, is
if you throw a handout, people more than likely are
(04:17):
going to take it and instead of you know, when
people I think sometimes when people are going through hard
times or need money or need help, or whatever the
case may be, sometimes they're telling you just because maybe
they want your help. But other times they're just telling
you because they want you to listen. And I think
that you're a solver and you want to solve it,
(04:38):
and you are out there solving everyone's problems and fixing
what you can fix and doing what you can do,
which takes away from your daily tasks that are already
filling your calendar. Because in general, you put fires out
at the radio station, you help salespeople with their clients.
(05:00):
You you are always above and beyond, so that already strips
away stuff, and then add bonus things that happen people
needing stuff, and you immediately throw yourself into save your mode,
and then there's no time left for you. Or if
(05:21):
I ask you for something, or if I don't do
what you need me to do or wanted me to do,
then instead of me becoming your which is what I
told you, I want to be your soft landing place,
But what I don't want to be is your punching bag.
And that's what ends up happening because you blow up,
which again, let me be the person you blow up too,
(05:46):
not on and it turns into I think, everything you
want to say to everyone else you say to me,
which again I think is very common in a marriage,
by the way, which is why I'm bringing this up
on this podcast. So I think that you need to
for your peace of mind and the sake of our relationship,
(06:09):
start having boundaries and learning when to say no.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Or you need to get a therapist and talk.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, I do have a therapist.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I just have and make an appointment.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, because you've got to figure out Because again I
it is my job as your wife and it's your
job as my husband to be a soft landing space
and for us to tell each other everything.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
What does a thought soft landing space mean to me?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It means a place where you can come to and
you can unload everything and that person listens and understands
and they can help.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
That's what that means to me.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, But instead I literally felt like you're punching bag.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, So let's go.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Back real quick on a couple of things, because I
do want to talk about that specific day.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Because I want to.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think it will help you know whoever's listening if
they've ever had this happen to them, where they just
were so frustrated. Everything was going, you know, wrong, or
maybe not wrong, but everything was just going and they
just got to a point where they just said, I
can't take it anymore, and they just blew up, and they,
(07:17):
like you said, blew up with the person that they feel,
you know, most.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Safe with. So go back real quick to.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
People asking or telling you the things that are going
with them and me wanting to save them or to
help them. I believe in a lot of cases that that.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Can be true.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think though in the ones that have been happening recently, though,
it isn't that it is them coming to me needing
me to do something. And I'll give an example of
something that is hypothetical because this is not the case
because the situations are so personal to the people that
I'm friends with. When somebody calls you and says, hey,
(08:02):
what are you doing this weekend and you say, oh,
not much, Hey, I need help moving, that is not
them saying they want you to give them advice on
who to call to be a mover. That means they're
asking you to help move the people that have asked
me for things lately have pretty much said I need
(08:23):
you to I need you to do this. And the
problem is typically I am the person that people will
come to and say, hey, I'm kind of struggling with this,
and I'll say.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Hey, I got an idea I want don't let me
make a phone call for you.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case lately, and I have
tried to get better at when I know I have
too much shit going on, like when work is really
coming to a point where we're in our busy season,
which we're getting to that right now with the holidays
and everything coming up. I usually don't accept anything at
this time of the year, and you know that summertime,
(08:59):
I'm more willing to help people. In the beginning of
the year, I'm more willing to help people. But at
the end of the year, it's too much. Like we
have so much going on at work. We're trying to
finish a fourth quarter in a big way, you know,
both ratings wise, but also helping out the you know,
the company revenue wise, and then we try to do
(09:20):
our breaking and entering Christmas wishes and get to you know,
more and more wishes which means we're out doing things,
shopping for families, delivering to families and stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So that's that's to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I do got to get better at just being able
to say to some people, hey, I just can't do
it right now.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And with everything that happened to you.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And with your recovery, I had a perfect.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Excuse to be able to say, hey, I can't do it.
You know, I can't help you.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
My problem is that a lot of the stuff that
has come up has been big stuff, and.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I do feel.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Bad and I and the other day when I came home,
it was other people's problems, a little opp and then
it was this week, we're going to Chicago, and we
have a lot of people coming to Chicago with us,
and it's a lot of preparation getting ready for that,
(10:27):
and I just felt overwhelmed with but by the way
coming up.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And by the way you and I have been just
because it's not like this came out of the blue
this week that's coming up. So part of that preparation
is something I've been asking you about for months and
it has been put off because.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
You are a procrastinator.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You wait until the last minute for stuff, so that's
something that I'm not going to own because I have
asked you time and time again what can.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
We do for this?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What do you want to do for this? And you
were like, we'll figure it out later. We'll figure out later.
And then one of your big blow ups on me
was you were so upset that I wasn't planning stuff
for you that I have no idea who is attending,
and I've asked you.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
So that's why it's like, listen, you owned you. I
own me. I know, like when.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You were so angry with me for that and telling
me that you had to plan your whole Hall of
Fame thing, Well, I'm not included in anything.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I don't I'm not the one getting in the emails
for the.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Tables for this thing.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Just to kind of let everybody know because otherwise it
sounds like we're there's so much weird stuff. To go
to the Hall of Fame dinner, you have to make arrangements,
like people will tell you, hey, I want to come
to the dinner, or you ask people like I specifically,
I asked all my family, all my brothers and sisters,
you know, the boys and their significant others, some personal friends,
(11:50):
former members of the show, and then the radio station
had all of the people. They took care of everybody
from the show as well as salespeople. And when you
do it, you have to invite them. Then you also
have to get like their orders for dinner.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Like I didn't know any of this came into it,
and I got to get better at the moment that
somebody sends me that instead of saying, Okay, well, the
deadline is October the seventeenth, and I got this saying
you know October first, I got to October first. Just go, hey, guys,
(12:29):
here it is. Your deadline is October fifteenth. Because I
give myself a day or two to be able to
send it in. And I am I'm a horrible procrastinator.
If I was going to say that, you know, the
things that I do the best, I would probably say that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I do the show the best.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And I think I'm good with my you know, the kids,
and I think I'm a mediocre kind of husband, but
I do Okay. The thing I do the worst is
I put everything off and wait till the last minute.
And unfortunately I'm seeing it in some of our kids too,
Like I see Luke has become a little bit like that,
and Joe to a certain let's.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Let's get back to the task at hand here. So
the whole, the whole thing was though I felt like, again,
you were upset about a bunch of things that were
not in my control and in yours.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And I should have said.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
What I should have said to you is and I'm
sorry to interrupt you is when all that stuff, I
can't do it, But I did apologize. I normally don't apologize.
I'm getting better at that. I should have said to
you weeks ago, hey can you handle this for me?
And I should have asked you to do it, and
I didn't, and I assumed and because of that, my
(13:45):
frustrations came out on you. Of everything mounting that the
last week or so, I have not looked forward at
all to this week, and I'm starting to look forward
to it now because because I realized, yeah, that is
it is such a huge deal, and honestly I was.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I've been more so than anything. And it's funny.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I'm procrastinating on my speech to that I'm gonna say,
but more so than anything, I've been reading up on
the Radio Hall of Fame because I'm like I don't
want to like go there and just go This is
my assumption of it, because I know a lot about
it because I used to go there as a kid.
But I want to like really know the history of
the industry that I'm about to be honored with us saying.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And one of the things that.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Has made me get excited about it is reading up
about the people that put this whole thing together, some
of the first people that I've been in it, you know,
and how it took a long time for certain people
to ever get in it.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Sure, you know, because I wonder what's going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Kind of like a wedding in the sense that it's
like that you know your wedding, you build up to it,
and then you're in it. In the moment, you really
can't enjoy it, meant and you look back and like, oh,
I wish I would have. But the good thing is
that we will be able to go to the Hall
of Fame, correct, Like there's a place that we can
go in see your picture in there.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So maybe they just opened and here's what they moved
last year. They were in a really shitty spot. It
was in the uh the House of Blues building in
Chicago and they it had kind of like a really
bad spot and they just recently moved. Yeah, because the
it was like basically an afterthought part of it. And
(15:30):
now they're in a much cooler spot. And I guess
they've done a bunch of press in Chicago with some
of the local TV stations.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well maybe next summer we can take a weekend and
go visit it and you can really soak it in
and enjoy it then, because I think you're going to
be a lot in the moment or not, I no.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Can I tell you something.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Here's the thing, and I want to get back to
everything that we're going to talk about in a second.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I am so excited to get to do this.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Weekend with my family, the boys, you, my brother's sisters,
but also my radio family. Like it's really cool that
the radio station. I did not know how many people
were coming, Like Colleen and Tony have been overwhelming me
with how many people are coming.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Really a special clients.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I mean Paul Lance from Imagine Theaters coming to the
thing and HiT's on his own. But the thing that
also is cool is that then we get this great
thing that we're doing on Thursday Friday, We're going to
get to celebrate with my family and get to see
my brothers and sisters and hopefully get a family picture,
because I think that we don't do that enough. But
(16:44):
then it's we're staying in Chicago because Jacob is getting
gradut getting honored with his graduation, and we did not
get to see Jacob graduate when he graduated from college.
He's graduating with a doctorate degree in psychology. And when
he graduate from DePaul from college, he had we had
COVID and we had to do a virtual graduation and
(17:05):
it was kind of fun graduation, yeah, as a YouTube graduation.
But this is going to be really so so cool
because he deserves to be recognized and he deserves to
be the center of the attention for us.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So so I'm kind of cool with that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Now back to talking about my problem. I'm sorry. I'm
really really sorry. I know you hear that a lot
from me.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's good to hear, by the way.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
But I'm really sorry.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm sorry that I've kind of done a poor job
of taking care of myself. I thought I was really
doing a good job for a while there. I was
going to Dennis, my therapist, and I know you sometimes
think I overly therapy, therapy, go to therapy, but I
really do enjoy it. It's actually something that I like
(18:01):
to do. I'm going to get back to it and
focus on my mental health a little bit more. I
do think that you do take the brunt of things
from me. Do you think I know?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
But I also know this.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I don't do it often, and I'm not trying to
make myself seem better for that. But I think for
the most part, we haven't had one of those moments
in a long time.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I wouldn't say long.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I feel like there's been uh huh, and listen again,
this is normal. It's not like it's this is what
marriage is. By the way, I think that unfortunately with
you sometimes with you, sometimes it gets you wait until
the very end, and so the blow is very big. Yeah,
where I had said to you before, if you would
(18:49):
have come to me and said, I need your help
with this because I'm not a mind reader, so I
can't and I'm dealing with my own shit. And not
to make that an excuse, but it is my reality.
I am so happy and excited for you with this
Hall of fame, like it is so amazing. I was
so happy for you. The first year I threw you
(19:10):
a party and you know, and then this year I
had another party. Like, I'm so excited and so happy
that you are being honored by everyone and all of
these people get to see you have this honor. I'm
in my own little storm over here too, and selfishly,
that's where I need to be. I can, by the way,
I can be in both places, but I am it
(19:34):
is about me a little bit for me, and this
this week is going to be all about you. I
promise you one hundred percent. Let me talk.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
But no, I wasn't. I was working out.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
But I have been in my storm, you know, wrapped
up in my little storm over here. It's getting better
every day, but I am in my own storm. I
just need you to say to me, hey, can you
help me with this? And I have never said no.
I have never said I won't help. I've always been
(20:07):
there to do that for you. But I am not
a mind reader and I can only ask so many times.
And if you blow me off, then then it's on you.
It is on you.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And do you feel also that it's weird to celebrate.
I know it sounds crazy, because I do know what
you're going through.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I think that's a bit two separate things. We
can do two things. I'm going to be doing two
things because two things are happening. I can be dealing
with what's going on with me mentally and what I
have to deal with for the rest of my life
because it is the rest of my life, and I
can also be there to celebrate you. Two things are
(20:48):
going to be happening in my mind that day. One
thing should be happening in your mind that day, and
it should be that you're being.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Honored and you need to be in the moment, and you.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Need because guess what, my reality is always going to
be there, not going away.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
You for that moment.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Need to be in the moment and relish everyone coming
in for you and your family being there to support you.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But I think that there's a bit of me that
thinks about you know, those people that get are getting
married enough and you know the bride's dad dies right
before the wedding, and do you still go to have
the wedding and celebrate and he's not there to celebrate
or yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I do want to know why called life and shit happens.
So you have a choice, You have a choice that
day to get up and maybe even tomorrow get up
and be like, you know what, this is starting an
amazing week in my life and my career, and it's
everything that I've worked for and I'm going to enjoy it,
and you should enjoy it. I think part of you
(21:49):
that's from your childhood where maybe you feel like you
can't fully enjoy everything. And again that's something you should
take it up with your therapist because that's not on me,
that's on you. But again, two things can be true,
two things can be true, focused on one for you
for the week, let it be. And you know what,
we're not only celebrating you. We are celebrating in Jacob
(22:11):
and it is an amazing week for our family and
we need.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, I do. I also do think that it's tough
for me. I don't like, as weird as it is,
that I am the center of attention with work. I
don't like necessarily always that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I chuckle at that, because you love to be the
center of I really don't.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't like opening gifts in front of people. I
don't like any of that stuff. You know that, I mean,
I listen.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I don't know that actually because you don't. I do
know you to.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Bet we have Christmas. I hate sitting there opening gifts.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I really do well then I make I'll make sure
you don't have any out open.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Saves me time and saves me money. I kind of
like that. I think that to kind of go through
what we're going through. And I know that there are
so many people that you know, when they listen to
this podcast, we always get those that will comment about
(23:09):
you know. I like that you guys are willing to
talk about not be real the happiest things that go.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
On, which we have a lot to be happy about,
by the way, we really do.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
But I really do think that there is a bit
of I have to prioritize things in my life and
I have to And again I don't necessarily prioritize I
think one of the most important things and it's myself.
And I don't focus on taking care of my health.
(23:40):
I'm taking care of that physically and mentally, but also
taking care of what is going on on my day
to day life. That maybe sometimes I coast a little
bit on the day to day stuff and then really
pour myself into some of the harder to help things.
(24:04):
And I think if I really focus on my day
to day and focus on myself personally, I think when
somebody does come up to me and says, hey, I
need help, there may be a okay, I can help you,
or like you said, just be honest and say, you
know what, I here's the deal. If there's somebody that
you can talk to and I'll figure out who that is,
(24:27):
or you know, put my two cents in as far
as an opinion is concerned. But I can't physically, you know,
be there to help you at this moment right now
because I'm just too struggling. Or if we can put
it off for a little bit, I'll help you when I'm.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Through with all this, which I think is a very
common thing because when you said to me the other day,
you know, I do for everyone else. I never take
care of myself. I'm always last, And I thought, I
think everyone feels that way. I mean I've felt that way,
and I always put you and the boys ahead of everyone,
(25:04):
right like, because that was just it was. My whole
life was about you one hundred percent and my kids.
And then when the kids left, and then we of
course went through problems and issues.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
But then when Luke left.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It was like I really struggled because I don't have
the kids here to make my life about and I
have had the luxury of doing a lot of self
care for myself lately, which unfortunately now I had my
little bump.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
In the road.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But I think that I think we all feel that
way a little bit, Like we all can say, gosh,
we make everything about everyone The majority of us can
say we make everything about everyone else, and we're the
last person. And maybe part of that is because this
whole self care thing is when you watch someone on
Instagram or a commercial like doing self care, they're in
(25:58):
a face mass can, they're have cucumbers, you know, they're
watching their Netflix or whatever like there there's just and
you think, gosh, I don't have time to do that.
And if that's what self care looks like or they're
doing whatever, maybe your version of self care is something
that is your reality, but in your head it's not.
(26:19):
And I'm not diminishing what you're going through or saying
what you're going through isn't real.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
But maybe you're and figure out what that is.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Maybe maybe this is getting back to talking to your
therapist or working. I think a lot of your and
it was you had to do it, but you really
enjoyed it and your appointments went really long. But I
think a lot of your self care recently was your
physical therapy because you got to talk to her and
they would give you massage and you were again you
(26:48):
had to do it, but it was something that you,
you know, so instead of So there is a little
bit of self care in there. Maybe your self care
can be your drives home and you're talking to people
that you want to talk to, not the people that
you have to talk to. But then that's a choice too,
Like you know, I'm not gonna I'm going to talk
to that, I'm going to give myself this fifty minute
(27:10):
car ride and talk to someone that I want to
talk to, or not talk at all. Yeah, you know,
like their choices and that.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And honestly, I think a lot for me too, is
I've gotten away from praying that I used to be
really focused in the morning about going into work and praying,
and it definitely helps. I mean, yeah, a spiritual connection
definitely helps. Yeah, and I stopped doing that. Haven't gone
to church in a while, you know what I mean. Yeah,
(27:38):
it's that's been kind of a.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
And if that's important to you, then go do it. Yeah, like,
go do it. Make make time for yourself to go
do it. Don't expect everyone else to jump on your
well little and wagon for that church.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
We need God.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Thank God for all the stuff that God has done
for you.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Excuse me, I do. I don't have to do it
side of a church.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Thank God for me.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Not really, not all the time. No, of course I do.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Of course I do, all right, So real quick, I
wanted to wrap up this with We went to Michigan
State to go see Luke, and he was sober, which
was amazing, Like it was really nice to be able
to spend time with our son with everybody else drunk,
and Luke was like sober showing us around and getting
(28:27):
us in, which was pretty cool. I think maybe he
was focused on trying to behave himself while.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
We were there.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
He had just had his hay rides.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So the sororities and fraternities have a hay ride night,
so he went on his fraternity hay ride night, and
then he went on his friend's sorority hey ride night,
so back to back and when they drank those borgs.
So he was a little done with believe me. He
was partaking and was going to partake after we left,
(28:57):
but he said he was looking forward to today.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Okay, this week we're going to be all of us together,
all five of us, and this is usually the time
where I see the happiest Chelsea. Yeah, being around the kids.
We got to make sure that you get pictures.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Just one.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I'd like one of me and my kids and then
one of the five of us for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And what do you think Jacob should get us for
a graduation gift?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Because I think he get us.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, because he's going into his life right now debt free,
and I think that maybe he should buy us a
nice gift.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
What do you think what did Joe get us for
going into his life jet free? I don't know, that's nothing.
Maybe so he gets us or nothing. No, you go
enjoy your life.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That's what they I would like, Jacob, because I know
Jacob listens to this, Jacob, I would like I don't know,
I would like to have a graduation.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
No, he did say to me.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
He did say to me that, because he said, don't
feel bad for not coming and visiting me at undergrad.
I was the one that really pushed that and he said,
if I could go back and talk to my eighteen
year old, eighteen year old self, I would say, Jacob,
let them.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
You know you need to see that.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Wait, he said that he did.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
He said it today on our phone conversation, and so if.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
He wanted just you or me to no, that's not
what he said.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
He said he was owning it. He was taking ownership
of the fact that he said, it's not your fault.
Don't feel bad that you didn't come and see me.
I was trying to figure myself out. So I was
trying to keep you guys at arm's length too, not
that we didn't talk or not, but we didn't go and.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Visit him, visit them as much as we Yeah, right right, So.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And he you know what it's he said, it was
a two way street basically, And so he said, you
do not feel bad.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Oh God, it's never about you. Why would are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I like that we get this thirty minutes a week
that we can actually talk to each.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Other, and it's the only time we really do and
we did not do the owner own your shit.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
We'll do that.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
No, real, What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (30:56):
What do you think it means?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Hell? Okay, that'll be the next podcast E
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