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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the we Don Podcast, starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half
Chelsea on this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Coming up on this episode of the weedone Podcast, how
thankful are we that that kids are gone already? All right,
we're gonna talk about that right now?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay, Thanksgiving is over with and we just sent our
last kids off. Luke and Max just left to go
back to Michigan State. Luke did not seem like he
wanted to go back.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean, who would want to leave this wonderful house.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It is funny when the kids come home and they
spend as little time as possible with us. They are
up in their rooms the entire time, and you know,
it's like, this is great. We're going to get to
spend time with the kids. Basically, we're going to get
to spend time together and the kids will be in
the same house with us. Yes, Jacob was home with Chris,
(01:20):
his boyfriend. We talked about this on the show. You
are total double standard. If Joe's listening, I have your
back on this one. Your mom has given up. She
holds different rules for you than she does for Jacob,
because you had no problem with Jacob sleeping in the
same room with Sourse.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We did talk about it on the show, and what
I said was, last year, Alyssa slept in Joe's room.
So you either you have the worst memory or you
just like to try to start shit and make me
look like an asshole. But here's the deal. Joe or
Alyssa slept in Joe's room last year because we didn't
have enough beds and I didn't feel that it was
kind of me to make her sleep on a cop coach.
(02:01):
So and then this year there wasn't every bed was
taken as well, and so Chris left in Jacob's bed.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, I don't see it that way.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What way do you see it?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I see it. Well, the first year that Alicia did come,
she did not sleep correct in the room with you.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
They were only dating for two years.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, for two years, that's actually an eternity to some relationships.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, okay, and your next point.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Is, and how long have Jacob and chrispin degree? Okay,
Oh my god, no, I let me say this to you.
I think that that last year you gave in with
the I didn't give.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
In Again, there was a do you want her to
sleep on the floor like I thought I was being nice.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Just left on a couch. Well, then if you're holding
to the same rules, but there was no rules, what's
going to happen when Luke brings a girlfriend home? He's
not Why do you say that?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, his girlfriend lives here, so lives in the same
state that we so she can go to her own home.
And if she actually she wasn't even in Michigan, she
was in Florida. But had she come over, she would
have gone home and gone back to her own bud.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, I'm just making sure that we're all playing the
same fair games. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, as I get older, I don't care anymore. And
it's funny because you used to not care, and now
you do care. So, by the way, if if you care,
be firm by it and take a stance.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, now, well there is a little bit of that.
You trust, probably Jacob more than you trust.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, Chris can't get pregnant, right.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Okay, So that's the reason why part of it. I
hope Joe does listen to this. Joe, if Joe has
any semblance of any wanting to bring content to his
radio show. If you do follow Joe, tell him about this,
tell the Joe Show about this.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, Joe will always think that we like Jacob and
Luke better, and he always was helped by a higher
They all think they're held by a higher standard. And
the truth, as I get older, I just don't care.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, that's why Luke's pretty much We've given up on
Luke pretty much. Luke. There's things that Luke does that
Joe and I and Jacob and I have conversations where like,
holy crap, man, you guys allowed Joe or Luke to
do pretty much anything you wanted to h and he
did get away with a lot more. But I also,
(04:31):
as the baby of the family, realized that you do
get a lot less as the baby of the family.
Where some people think that you get more, you just
get less. Time with your family is those guys got
to spend a lot more of I guess our younger years.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So all right, Thanksgiving was good. It was good having
them back. It was fun to be able to spend
the time with them. You have a little bit of
I don't know, it's weird because I feel like Thanksgiving
it started off you and I kind of like not
(05:04):
getting along at first. You're upset that I didn't answer
your phone call, which I didn't see your phone call,
and then I saw it later.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
But when I asked you why you didn't answer my
phone call, I said, hey, Firs, who are you on
the phone with? You tell me you told me who
you're on the phone with. And I said, why don't
you answer my phone call?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Because I didn't see it at the time.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
What you said was the first time was you said,
because I was putting my ID in my wallet.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, that's what the thing. I didn't see you call.
I saw that you did. I didn't see you calling
when you called. I saw which, By the way, this
is a question for anybody that is listening. How many
people pick up their spouse's phone call immediately? Me?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
When I do? I always do. I always pick up
your phone call just in case you need something or
something that is wrong. You never pick up my phone call.
I do ever, never on the first time. So what
will happen is I have to come up with someone else.
I don't ever put you on my medical emergency because
why you won't answer it. I'll probably be dead by
(06:00):
the time they get a hold of you. And you
never answer my phone call, and whatever. You're busy, you're
a busy man, but God forbid I ever need you.
I haven't needed you yet, so I've decided I'm not
going to answer your phone calls anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, So let me talk about the two times you
called when I was at the station and we were
having our lunch for Thanksgiving with the listeners, so I
didn't pick up during that time because I was in
the middle of talking to everybody in the phone rang understand,
and I even held the phone up and said, Chelsea's
calling me. I'm going to call her back here in
a second, which I did end up calling you back.
And then when you called me later that afternoon and
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you were out, you were coming on your way home.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You're trying to see what we wanted to do for dinner.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, okay, I was on the phone. I had the
phone away from me, and I was talking on speaker,
which is one of your least favorite things that I do,
and I was on the phone with Steve Gabara, and
I did not see that you were calling at that time.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So when you're on the phone. Does it not beep
when someone call on you, when it shows who's on
the other line.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I didn't hear it be but I did see eventually
when I was on the phone with him that you
had called, and I missed your call because I saw
that there was a missed call, and then I figured
that I would, you know, get.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
In contact with fire who cares.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
By the way, here's the deal. If I am on
your emergency contact, it's not going to show up as Chelsea.
It's going to show up as whatever the emergency contact is.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
That's true, but I still haven't You probably.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Wouldn't pick up some random call from Actually I pick.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Up all Michigan and Chicago. Yeah, because I have ann Florida,
because I have kids that live there so and a
husband that lives here. So I always get worried that
if it is an emergency and one of you guys
need me, I'm there. I would love the luxury of
not having that fear like you do.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Did you have that fear when the boys were home?
I know Joe wasn't, But if you had a Michigan
call call while the boys were here, did you still
pick up boys? Yeah? I have always because I always
feel whenever everybody he is in the house and we're
all here and we go to bed at night, and
it's rare that we get everybody you know in including
you know, Joe and Jacob.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
My Ringer only comes through when it's one of the
boys at night.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Oh yeah, I see, I don't even know how to
do that. You actually have your phone set up.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
We'll teach you. But I don't only put my phone
number in that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So it just ran. Yeah, but it is It is
interesting that there is after you know, the boys were
all home, there is a semblance of God. I can
go to bed at night sleeping a lot better sure
knowing that everybody is here. And there were a couple
of nights that I would text Joe or say something
to Joe before we went to bed or in the
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evening knowing that he was home or he was doing
something that was okay. You know, but you have had
a can I bring this up? Can I bring up anything?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, I don't know what you're going to bring up.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So if all of a sudden you hear like a
weird edit, it mean said she doesn't want me to
bring it up. And then all said and we're talking
about random stuff. You have been a little clinging lately,
are you doing okay?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah? I mean I think that I have been going
through a little bit emotional stuff, but yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
What's what's going on? Why do what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Tell me what's happened?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think that I have. I'm still processing what happened
to me and trying to figure out what my plan
is next, but also realizing that I can choose to
dwell on the what ifs or I can just live
my life. And to me, a even a couple weeks ago,
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it was harder for me to even comprehend Okay, just
live your life and whatever happens happened. That was really
a hard concept for me to grasp and accept. And
with every day, I'm feeling a little bit more of
I'm just going to live my life, and I have
to realize that I'm getting tested and putting I'm going
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to be fine and whatever it is, whatever my future is,
it is, I can't change it. From worrying and trying
to figure out what my road looks like, which is
very hard for me because it's a control thing. But
I have to just let it go, and I'm learning
to let it go every day.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What's your biggest fear?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh, my god, that it's going to come back and
it's going to be everywhere and I won't have options.
That's my biggest fear.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Do you You look at the holidays though, in a
way of you know, some people will look at them like, hey,
this was a year that was crazy and we went
through all of this, and thank God that you know,
you're feeling good, you're looking good, you're you know, uh,
(10:52):
doctors are saying that you're doing great.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, that felt great, But by the way, I thought
I was great before. So it's just different when you
are told that you have cancer, had whatever. When you're
For me, everything seemed to shift into a different lane,
whereas before you go through in your coasting and you think,
(11:18):
not that you're invincible, but you just don't think. I
never thought that I would have to have that in
my own vocabulary, you know. So it had it shifted
for me in a different way, and I look at
things differently, and yes, I'm lucky that it was caught
early and it's out of my body right now. But
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there's also a fear that you have whether it's rational
or irrational, and so it's but I am slowly getting
out of the doom's day of it all and more
into where I couldn't get out of that. At the beginning,
I was obsessed with trying to figure out, Okay, when
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it's going to come back, where it's going to come back, how,
how it'll come back, and then what that surgery is
going to look like, and what that treatment will be.
When the truth is, I don't know. I can go
off of you know what I'm reading, but everyone is different.
Everybody is different, and I just I have to let
that go, which again is a control thing. So I'm
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learning how to let that go. But I am. I
am changed because of that, as I think anyone who
goes through that is a changed person, and hopefully it's
for the better. You know, I don't know one of the.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Things about you, and for everybody that doesn't know you personally,
you either do a great job of faking it or
you have always had one of these I don't give
a shit type of attitudes. And I feel like lately
one of the things about you is that I feel
like there is a sense of uncertainty that is drawing
(13:01):
you to maybe not be necessarily as confident as even
you were seven months ago.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well, there is no confidence. But here's the thing. When
you're given when someone tells you that you have cancer,
and then it's taken out of your body, which is
amazing and great, But then it's not a matter of
if it's going to come back, it's when it's going
to come back. It's not like this is done for
the rest of your life. You're never going to have
cancer again. So then it's like, you know, you're checked obviously,
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thank god, but so you're almost waiting for that other
foot to drop in a sense, and so I want
to be prepared for it. I don't want to be
caught off guard, obviously, not that I will ever be
caught off guard again, but you do wonder again, like
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I said earlier, you wonder where in my body and when,
And this is a tricky one. Sometimes it can be
it can go and hide behind some of your organs
when it comes back, and you read about those surgeries
and it just gets into my head into a crazy
place that I have to not let it stay. I
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need to learn how to read about it and just
let it go, because I can't not read about it,
like I do like to be in the know of
it just so when it does happen, I can you know, like, Okay,
so this is what it's going to look like, and
I just want to be in the know of it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Is this first time you've ever felt this way?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, it's the first time I had cancer?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
No, it was this first time, though, that you've ever
felt not completely confident, Like do you remember confident?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's not being in control I have felt that I
could control other things before.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It's the first time, though, that you've ever felt not
in control of anything. Where have you ever felt this way?
For No, motherhood in the beginning or no, because.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I've always felt kind of com well in the beginning
of motherhood. Maybe, but I was so young and naive
I just went ahead. There's just too many unknowns with this,
and I think as you get older, your existence, you know,
and how long you're going to live. I am on
the tail end of that. I'm not going to die
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anytime soon, but I'm fifty one, so it's not like
I'm going to live to be two hundred, you know.
So I just think there's a lot of more things
that become real and I have more downtime. Maybe if
this would have happened to me when the boys were
younger and I didn't have time to really process it
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or dig deep into it, it would have been different,
you know, I would have had I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's first time I think in our relationship where I
feel like you've been depending on me more, where you
have been looking for me.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, that's very hard for me because either you're there
or you're not, and I personalize when you're not. And
I need to work on that too, because then I
get mad at myself for meeting you because I don't
like it.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
But I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, when you can't do it and I get upset,
there is.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Well, there are times, and this is where I think
I need from you, for you to be able to
vocalize and verbalize, like we've talked about this, I think
on a couple of podcasts ago, and when you needed
me to like you're wanting me to make the full
decisions on things. Well, in the past, you have never
wanted me to be there with you all the time.
(16:40):
To be fair, when you let me finish with off
for a second, Yeah, when you do need me, and
you're like, I need you, I need you to in
them telling you this, I need you to say, hey,
I need you, and I'm going to need you to
either take a day or a week or a month
or whatever it is, like I'm going to like, I
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need you to vocalize that to me because I'm going
to need your help with that.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Right So, I don't need you to take a day,
a week, or a month right now. That's not what
I need. I think what I need and I felt
that I have been vocalizing that is I just need
your support and I need to feel like you are there,
just there. I don't need you to and I don't
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even know how to really explain it other than and
I feel that I have expressed that to you that
I am a little bit more emotional lately. So I
do need to know that I can just be there
to depend on you. And if it's listen, you don't
have to pick up my phone call when you're at work.
I get that, I really don't. I think I was
just calling to let you know I was on my
way to pick up Leah at the airport. That was
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just a silly call, and I had you had told
me that you were going to be done with work
by a certain time. I called you at that time
and you still weren't done. That's fine. I get that.
I didn't need need you at that moment. It was
just like a catch up phone call. But when I'm
trying to figure out dinner or whatever and you don't
pick up, it's like a build up of he never
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picks up my call. I always pick up his. It's
like just a little simple thing that can set me
off right now for sure, because I just feel like, Okay,
for goodness sakes, you can pick up my phone call
when you're talking to Steve Gabara, who's more important to
talk to honestly.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
But like I said, I didn't see your call, but.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Then you saw that I called, and did you call
me back?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Okay, So there you go. So that's just what I'm saying,
like simple, it's really really to me, it's simple. If
it's too much for you, I need you to say, hey,
I can't do that, because that's the communication, right Like,
I think that is what is important for us right now.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I do. I do think that there is a level
of you and I for years have kind of gone
through a pattern of you kind of pushing me away,
and it is weird for me to see you wanting
me closer and I I were where I enjoy it.
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I'm I guess I'm just not used to it, and
so you know, that's why it becomes you know, I
even said something to you, I think this morning where
I said, you know, are you doing okay? Like you know,
because it seems like you're questioning a bunch of things
about yourself or just how you're feeling about things.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So well, again, I think this is just a crazy
time in my life that will get better. It is
getting better, definitely from what it was over the summer,
for sure. But I also I have wanted to and
I have wanted to feel that I could depend on
you for different things and different times in our marriage.
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And I feel like if I can't even depend on
you during this time, then forget it, and not forget
it like I'm going to get divorced, but then forget it.
I'm just going to figure out how to do this.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well. I think that I'm doing my best. I really do.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Listen, we all do our bust.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, have you thought about talking to somebody?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I have someone that I talked to no I know.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But a professional like we've talked numerous times.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
How do you know she's not a professional.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Because she's your friend.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Probably yeah, And she knows the difference is. And I
even talked to my doctor about it. She knows to
a deeper level of what I'm going through because she
went through it at a deeper level. So she knows
when I say, this is how I feel, because she's
been through it, and that is my comfort, and that
is my I don't want. The doctor suggested I if
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I still feel this way in a couple months, I
should go talk to a psychiatrist. I think I'm going
to be fine in a couple of months. I really do.
And I know I won't feel the way that I
feel now in a couple of months because I felt
worse a couple of months ago, so I know I'm
getting better. And then she had suggested I go to
a group. I don't like talking to strangers and I
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don't like for me, I just have the one person
that I can say anything to, whether it's crappy or scarier,
and she gets it, and she knows when to tell
me to stop, and she knows when to say it's okay,
and she knows all the right things to say and
when it's when, and if it's too hard for her,
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then I know she'll tell me, you know, go talk
to someone else. But she hasn't yet, and I find
comfort in it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You thanked her at Thanksgiving, I did you. Actually we
were going around the table and this with the person
she's talking about is Chelsea's best friend, Leah. And you
went around the table and Leah was there, you know,
sitting uh, sitting you know, one o or so over
from you, and you said that to her. I thought
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I was actually going to see her cry, because you
rarely get to see Leah cry. She was, yoh, she's
in another room right now, Leah, come over and talk
to us. Come on, no, seriously, because this is big.
So this is Leah's who Chelsea is using as her
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sounding board, her therapist. But you went around the table
and you.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Said, you know, we all went around the table, we
all do things that were thankful for Yeah, and definitely
this year I am one thankful for Leah and and
for my family of course, but for because she has
been my sounding board from that Literally, she was the
first phone call that I made when I opened up
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my Pronovo scan and I said, okay, I was going
through all of the stuff with her and then I said, okay,
there's uh tumorami ovary and so we just you know,
she's always I've always sent her my test results.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And you know, does she ever not pick up your
phone call?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
She always does, you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Know, But is she ever not? And if she doesn't,
do you go? What the fuck?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I owe it? I know where she is. We have
each other's location, so I know, like we always talk
to each other at a certain time every day. But
if I know if she's somewhere else, you know, we can't.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, is this the reason you're you know? And and
it's totally understandable after what you went through and anybody
that has gone through any kind of a medical you know,
any kind of emergencies that have happened changed. Yeah, our
big life changing moments like this, I can see where
this would be similar to them. They all of a
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sudden start changing emotionally. But is this what you're letting
your son sleep in a room with again?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Last year? I love you you're getting when you I
hate when you say that, But when you die, I'm
donating your brain for research. And I don't know what part.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Of your cushions from radio Geme.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
You don't know radio is very safe. How you get
in your head hitting in radio, but you're literally something
can happen in front of you, and you rewrite it
to radio version all of the time.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah. No, I'm using that as a joking analogy. They
call that, so tie it all back into one. I
do think it's good that you Heavilyah to talk to.
I do also think it would be good for you
to have somebody else to talk to. And I do
think that. And it's funny because you're very supportive, if
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not encouraging, of me to call my therapist or the
boys to call and get therapy. But yet you were afraid.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Because I'm no, no, no, no no. I think I also
know what will benefit me. And Leah knows everything. She
knows me. She's known me since I was in second grade,
so she knows it all. And I don't want to
have to sit there and have to spend a couple
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of sessions explaining everything to someone else. I got it
like I have someone. And again, I I know Lee
enough to where if she didn't want to hear it
anymore if she can't hear it anymore, like she'll say,
you know, I know her enough that she'll do. And honestly,
it's not whereas in the beginning it was every conversation,
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It's not like that anymore. It's now back to where
we were a little bit before, to where we talk
about other stuff too. So it's it. It was very
consuming at the beginning, where that's all I could think of,
you know, hurting myself, like some of my things that happen,
my surgery, injuring those like, there are things that was
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consumed my every thought. It doesn't consume me anymore, so
I know I'm getting better with that, and I just
I think that also, this is just part of it.
It's part of the journey. At the beginning, that's very, very,
very scary. I'm always going to have the you know
what if when does it come? All of those I
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think they'll all be there, but I think they're just
going to get quieter and not be as loud, So
they and they are getting quieter. I don't dwell on
it like I used to, at least I don't think
that I do.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You know, we go through our phones a lot of
times and look back at pictures or we get our
Facebook memories that come into play. I know this weekend,
I think I got every Thanksgiving that we had for
at least the last five to six years. And you
go through these memories and you see where you were
when and how you look and all the rest of
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that stuff. Interesting to go back on these podcasts and
to go back even a year or two years now,
because you can go back a couple of years on
the podcast and see where we were after Thanksgiving and
what our lives were like, and then kind of look
and see how different things are. Because where I think
that us doing this podcast is such a good thing
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for being able to at least communicate to people and
give them something to relate to. I think that it's
also good for us too to document a lot of
where we are in our relationship and look back, because
we are going to in a year from now, be
faced with a completely different time in our lives, because
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we're going to have a child that's going to be
getting ready to get married, and we're also going to
look back on you thriving. I believe, and I know
you believe, and in God willing physically, you know, and
look back on this and go back and say, wow,
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do you remember when you know I was so scared
about this happening?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, for sure, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I think it's definitely something to look back on.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Well, I just think, you know, I would ask because
I'm not going to remind you every day that I
need you. So I have said it to you before,
and I'm going to say it again. I'm not gonna
That's not who I am like reminding you every day.
I do need a little bit more grace and understanding
during this time of what I'm going through, and sometimes
I don't even understand.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Also have to remember a lot of this is hormonal
for me because I went through medical menopause a couple
months ago, so everything was taken out of my body,
all my reproductive organs, and along with that came a
lot of emotional things that I can't even I don't
even recognize myself when I'm getting upset about either a
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phone call or something you've said, or something that's going on.
Not an excuse, but I'm just telling you what's going on.
So I'm hoping that eventually things will level back out
again and all you know, being but if not, you know,
I don't know what to tell you. Pick up your
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fucking phone when I call.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And I will tell you this. And I think that
we've talked before. I think that the listeners think I
ignore you NonStop because hey, I don't put my phone down.
You say, you know all the time, I say, but
we do spend a great amount of time together. There's
not a lot of couples that spend the time that
we spend together.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
We are physically in the same house, yes, but are
we And it's fine. Again, Sometimes I would like you
to be more present, but I get it. It's it's
very difficult, and sometimes I don't want you to be present,
you know.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, Well, in our relationship has always been one where
there has been a level of what you just said,
to be more present than there's other times where I'm
trying to be more present with you or trying to
get more clinging with you, and you're like the fuck
away from it.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
But that's just a relationship, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
There you go. I am thankful for you, and I
am thankful that you are good and that you know
you're healthy and and that you know God God got
you through this. I really am. So I want you
to know that, even though you're more thankful for Leah
than you are of me. But that's okay, you know.
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And she won't even come on our podcast for us.
She just screams from the other room. Now she doesn't
have to listen to the podcast. We got one less
wit listeners.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
We're gonna make her download it anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, exactly. We got at least get the the the
We got to get the number, all right, thanks for
listening to the We Don't Podcast.
Welcome to the we Don Podcast, starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half
Chelsea on this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Coming up on this episode of the weedone Podcast, how
thankful are we that that kids are gone already? All right,
we're gonna talk about that right now?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay, Thanksgiving is over with and we just sent our
last kids off. Luke and Max just left to go
back to Michigan State. Luke did not seem like he
wanted to go back.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean, who would want to leave this wonderful house.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It is funny when the kids come home and they
spend as little time as possible with us. They are
up in their rooms the entire time, and you know,
it's like, this is great. We're going to get to
spend time with the kids. Basically, we're going to get
to spend time together and the kids will be in
the same house with us. Yes, Jacob was home with Chris,
(01:20):
his boyfriend. We talked about this on the show. You
are total double standard. If Joe's listening, I have your
back on this one. Your mom has given up. She
holds different rules for you than she does for Jacob,
because you had no problem with Jacob sleeping in the
same room with Sourse.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We did talk about it on the show, and what
I said was, last year, Alyssa slept in Joe's room.
So you either you have the worst memory or you
just like to try to start shit and make me
look like an asshole. But here's the deal. Joe or
Alyssa slept in Joe's room last year because we didn't
have enough beds and I didn't feel that it was
kind of me to make her sleep on a cop coach.
(02:01):
So and then this year there wasn't every bed was
taken as well, and so Chris left in Jacob's bed.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, I don't see it that way.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What way do you see it?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I see it. Well, the first year that Alicia did come,
she did not sleep correct in the room with you.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
They were only dating for two years.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, for two years, that's actually an eternity to some relationships.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, okay, and your next point.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Is, and how long have Jacob and chrispin degree? Okay,
Oh my god, no, I let me say this to you.
I think that that last year you gave in with
the I didn't give.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
In Again, there was a do you want her to
sleep on the floor like I thought I was being nice.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Just left on a couch. Well, then if you're holding
to the same rules, but there was no rules, what's
going to happen when Luke brings a girlfriend home? He's
not Why do you say that?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, his girlfriend lives here, so lives in the same
state that we so she can go to her own home.
And if she actually she wasn't even in Michigan, she
was in Florida. But had she come over, she would
have gone home and gone back to her own bud.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, I'm just making sure that we're all playing the
same fair games. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, as I get older, I don't care anymore. And
it's funny because you used to not care, and now
you do care. So, by the way, if if you care,
be firm by it and take a stance.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, now, well there is a little bit of that.
You trust, probably Jacob more than you trust.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, Chris can't get pregnant, right.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Okay, So that's the reason why part of it. I
hope Joe does listen to this. Joe, if Joe has
any semblance of any wanting to bring content to his
radio show. If you do follow Joe, tell him about this,
tell the Joe Show about this.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, Joe will always think that we like Jacob and
Luke better, and he always was helped by a higher
They all think they're held by a higher standard. And
the truth, as I get older, I just don't care.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, that's why Luke's pretty much We've given up on
Luke pretty much. Luke. There's things that Luke does that
Joe and I and Jacob and I have conversations where like,
holy crap, man, you guys allowed Joe or Luke to
do pretty much anything you wanted to h and he
did get away with a lot more. But I also,
(04:31):
as the baby of the family, realized that you do
get a lot less as the baby of the family.
Where some people think that you get more, you just
get less. Time with your family is those guys got
to spend a lot more of I guess our younger years.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So all right, Thanksgiving was good. It was good having
them back. It was fun to be able to spend
the time with them. You have a little bit of
I don't know, it's weird because I feel like Thanksgiving
it started off you and I kind of like not
(05:04):
getting along at first. You're upset that I didn't answer
your phone call, which I didn't see your phone call,
and then I saw it later.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
But when I asked you why you didn't answer my
phone call, I said, hey, Firs, who are you on
the phone with? You tell me you told me who
you're on the phone with. And I said, why don't
you answer my phone call?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Because I didn't see it at the time.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
What you said was the first time was you said,
because I was putting my ID in my wallet.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, that's what the thing. I didn't see you call.
I saw that you did. I didn't see you calling
when you called. I saw which, By the way, this
is a question for anybody that is listening. How many
people pick up their spouse's phone call immediately? Me?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
When I do? I always do. I always pick up
your phone call just in case you need something or
something that is wrong. You never pick up my phone call.
I do ever, never on the first time. So what
will happen is I have to come up with someone else.
I don't ever put you on my medical emergency because
why you won't answer it. I'll probably be dead by
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the time they get a hold of you. And you
never answer my phone call, and whatever. You're busy, you're
a busy man, but God forbid I ever need you.
I haven't needed you yet, so I've decided I'm not
going to answer your phone calls anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, So let me talk about the two times you
called when I was at the station and we were
having our lunch for Thanksgiving with the listeners, so I
didn't pick up during that time because I was in
the middle of talking to everybody in the phone rang understand,
and I even held the phone up and said, Chelsea's
calling me. I'm going to call her back here in
a second, which I did end up calling you back.
And then when you called me later that afternoon and
(06:38):
you were out, you were coming on your way home.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You're trying to see what we wanted to do for dinner.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, okay, I was on the phone. I had the
phone away from me, and I was talking on speaker,
which is one of your least favorite things that I do,
and I was on the phone with Steve Gabara, and
I did not see that you were calling at that time.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So when you're on the phone. Does it not beep
when someone call on you, when it shows who's on
the other line.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I didn't hear it be but I did see eventually
when I was on the phone with him that you
had called, and I missed your call because I saw
that there was a missed call, and then I figured
that I would, you know, get.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
In contact with fire who cares.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
By the way, here's the deal. If I am on
your emergency contact, it's not going to show up as Chelsea.
It's going to show up as whatever the emergency contact is.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
That's true, but I still haven't You probably.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Wouldn't pick up some random call from Actually I pick.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Up all Michigan and Chicago. Yeah, because I have ann Florida,
because I have kids that live there so and a
husband that lives here. So I always get worried that
if it is an emergency and one of you guys
need me, I'm there. I would love the luxury of
not having that fear like you do.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Did you have that fear when the boys were home?
I know Joe wasn't, But if you had a Michigan
call call while the boys were here, did you still
pick up boys? Yeah? I have always because I always
feel whenever everybody he is in the house and we're
all here and we go to bed at night, and
it's rare that we get everybody you know in including
you know, Joe and Jacob.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
My Ringer only comes through when it's one of the
boys at night.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Oh yeah, I see, I don't even know how to
do that. You actually have your phone set up.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
We'll teach you. But I don't only put my phone
number in that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So it just ran. Yeah, but it is It is
interesting that there is after you know, the boys were
all home, there is a semblance of God. I can
go to bed at night sleeping a lot better sure
knowing that everybody is here. And there were a couple
of nights that I would text Joe or say something
to Joe before we went to bed or in the
(08:41):
evening knowing that he was home or he was doing
something that was okay. You know, but you have had
a can I bring this up? Can I bring up anything?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, I don't know what you're going to bring up.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So if all of a sudden you hear like a
weird edit, it mean said she doesn't want me to
bring it up. And then all said and we're talking
about random stuff. You have been a little clinging lately,
are you doing okay?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah? I mean I think that I have been going
through a little bit emotional stuff, but yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
What's what's going on? Why do what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Tell me what's happened?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think that I have. I'm still processing what happened
to me and trying to figure out what my plan
is next, but also realizing that I can choose to
dwell on the what ifs or I can just live
my life. And to me, a even a couple weeks ago,
(09:42):
it was harder for me to even comprehend Okay, just
live your life and whatever happens happened. That was really
a hard concept for me to grasp and accept. And
with every day, I'm feeling a little bit more of
I'm just going to live my life, and I have
to realize that I'm getting tested and putting I'm going
(10:04):
to be fine and whatever it is, whatever my future is,
it is, I can't change it. From worrying and trying
to figure out what my road looks like, which is
very hard for me because it's a control thing. But
I have to just let it go, and I'm learning
to let it go every day.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What's your biggest fear?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh, my god, that it's going to come back and
it's going to be everywhere and I won't have options.
That's my biggest fear.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Do you You look at the holidays though, in a
way of you know, some people will look at them like, hey,
this was a year that was crazy and we went
through all of this, and thank God that you know,
you're feeling good, you're looking good, you're you know, uh,
(10:52):
doctors are saying that you're doing great.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, that felt great, But by the way, I thought
I was great before. So it's just different when you
are told that you have cancer, had whatever. When you're
For me, everything seemed to shift into a different lane,
whereas before you go through in your coasting and you think,
(11:18):
not that you're invincible, but you just don't think. I
never thought that I would have to have that in
my own vocabulary, you know. So it had it shifted
for me in a different way, and I look at
things differently, and yes, I'm lucky that it was caught
early and it's out of my body right now. But
(11:40):
there's also a fear that you have whether it's rational
or irrational, and so it's but I am slowly getting
out of the doom's day of it all and more
into where I couldn't get out of that. At the beginning,
I was obsessed with trying to figure out, Okay, when
(12:01):
it's going to come back, where it's going to come back, how,
how it'll come back, and then what that surgery is
going to look like, and what that treatment will be.
When the truth is, I don't know. I can go
off of you know what I'm reading, but everyone is different.
Everybody is different, and I just I have to let
that go, which again is a control thing. So I'm
(12:24):
learning how to let that go. But I am. I
am changed because of that, as I think anyone who
goes through that is a changed person, and hopefully it's
for the better. You know, I don't know one of the.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Things about you, and for everybody that doesn't know you personally,
you either do a great job of faking it or
you have always had one of these I don't give
a shit type of attitudes. And I feel like lately
one of the things about you is that I feel
like there is a sense of uncertainty that is drawing
(13:01):
you to maybe not be necessarily as confident as even
you were seven months ago.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well, there is no confidence. But here's the thing. When
you're given when someone tells you that you have cancer,
and then it's taken out of your body, which is
amazing and great, But then it's not a matter of
if it's going to come back, it's when it's going
to come back. It's not like this is done for
the rest of your life. You're never going to have
cancer again. So then it's like, you know, you're checked obviously,
(13:32):
thank god, but so you're almost waiting for that other
foot to drop in a sense, and so I want
to be prepared for it. I don't want to be
caught off guard, obviously, not that I will ever be
caught off guard again, but you do wonder again, like
(13:53):
I said earlier, you wonder where in my body and when,
And this is a tricky one. Sometimes it can be
it can go and hide behind some of your organs
when it comes back, and you read about those surgeries
and it just gets into my head into a crazy
place that I have to not let it stay. I
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need to learn how to read about it and just
let it go, because I can't not read about it,
like I do like to be in the know of
it just so when it does happen, I can you know, like, Okay,
so this is what it's going to look like, and
I just want to be in the know of it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Is this first time you've ever felt this way?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, it's the first time I had cancer?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
No, it was this first time, though, that you've ever
felt not completely confident, Like do you remember confident?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's not being in control I have felt that I
could control other things before.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It's the first time, though, that you've ever felt not
in control of anything. Where have you ever felt this way?
For No, motherhood in the beginning or no, because.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I've always felt kind of com well in the beginning
of motherhood. Maybe, but I was so young and naive
I just went ahead. There's just too many unknowns with this,
and I think as you get older, your existence, you know,
and how long you're going to live. I am on
the tail end of that. I'm not going to die
(15:24):
anytime soon, but I'm fifty one, so it's not like
I'm going to live to be two hundred, you know.
So I just think there's a lot of more things
that become real and I have more downtime. Maybe if
this would have happened to me when the boys were
younger and I didn't have time to really process it
(15:45):
or dig deep into it, it would have been different,
you know, I would have had I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's first time I think in our relationship where I
feel like you've been depending on me more, where you
have been looking for me.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, that's very hard for me because either you're there
or you're not, and I personalize when you're not. And
I need to work on that too, because then I
get mad at myself for meeting you because I don't
like it.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
But I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, when you can't do it and I get upset,
there is.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Well, there are times, and this is where I think
I need from you, for you to be able to
vocalize and verbalize, like we've talked about this, I think
on a couple of podcasts ago, and when you needed
me to like you're wanting me to make the full
decisions on things. Well, in the past, you have never
wanted me to be there with you all the time.
(16:40):
To be fair, when you let me finish with off
for a second, Yeah, when you do need me, and
you're like, I need you, I need you to in
them telling you this, I need you to say, hey,
I need you, and I'm going to need you to
either take a day or a week or a month
or whatever it is, like I'm going to like, I
(17:02):
need you to vocalize that to me because I'm going
to need your help with that.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Right So, I don't need you to take a day,
a week, or a month right now. That's not what
I need. I think what I need and I felt
that I have been vocalizing that is I just need
your support and I need to feel like you are there,
just there. I don't need you to and I don't
(17:26):
even know how to really explain it other than and
I feel that I have expressed that to you that
I am a little bit more emotional lately. So I
do need to know that I can just be there
to depend on you. And if it's listen, you don't
have to pick up my phone call when you're at work.
I get that, I really don't. I think I was
just calling to let you know I was on my
way to pick up Leah at the airport. That was
(17:48):
just a silly call, and I had you had told
me that you were going to be done with work
by a certain time. I called you at that time
and you still weren't done. That's fine. I get that.
I didn't need need you at that moment. It was
just like a catch up phone call. But when I'm
trying to figure out dinner or whatever and you don't
pick up, it's like a build up of he never
(18:09):
picks up my call. I always pick up his. It's
like just a little simple thing that can set me
off right now for sure, because I just feel like, Okay,
for goodness sakes, you can pick up my phone call
when you're talking to Steve Gabara, who's more important to
talk to honestly.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
But like I said, I didn't see your call, but.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Then you saw that I called, and did you call
me back?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Okay, So there you go. So that's just what I'm saying,
like simple, it's really really to me, it's simple. If
it's too much for you, I need you to say, hey,
I can't do that, because that's the communication, right Like,
I think that is what is important for us right now.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I do. I do think that there is a level
of you and I for years have kind of gone
through a pattern of you kind of pushing me away,
and it is weird for me to see you wanting
me closer and I I were where I enjoy it.
(19:13):
I'm I guess I'm just not used to it, and
so you know, that's why it becomes you know, I
even said something to you, I think this morning where
I said, you know, are you doing okay? Like you know,
because it seems like you're questioning a bunch of things
about yourself or just how you're feeling about things.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So well, again, I think this is just a crazy
time in my life that will get better. It is
getting better, definitely from what it was over the summer,
for sure. But I also I have wanted to and
I have wanted to feel that I could depend on
you for different things and different times in our marriage.
(19:54):
And I feel like if I can't even depend on
you during this time, then forget it, and not forget
it like I'm going to get divorced, but then forget it.
I'm just going to figure out how to do this.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well. I think that I'm doing my best. I really do.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Listen, we all do our bust.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, have you thought about talking to somebody?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I have someone that I talked to no I know.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But a professional like we've talked numerous times.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
How do you know she's not a professional.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Because she's your friend.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Probably yeah, And she knows the difference is. And I
even talked to my doctor about it. She knows to
a deeper level of what I'm going through because she
went through it at a deeper level. So she knows
when I say, this is how I feel, because she's
been through it, and that is my comfort, and that
is my I don't want. The doctor suggested I if
(20:50):
I still feel this way in a couple months, I
should go talk to a psychiatrist. I think I'm going
to be fine in a couple of months. I really do.
And I know I won't feel the way that I
feel now in a couple of months because I felt
worse a couple of months ago, so I know I'm
getting better. And then she had suggested I go to
a group. I don't like talking to strangers and I
(21:15):
don't like for me, I just have the one person
that I can say anything to, whether it's crappy or scarier,
and she gets it, and she knows when to tell
me to stop, and she knows when to say it's okay,
and she knows all the right things to say and
when it's when, and if it's too hard for her,
(21:37):
then I know she'll tell me, you know, go talk
to someone else. But she hasn't yet, and I find
comfort in it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You thanked her at Thanksgiving, I did you. Actually we
were going around the table and this with the person
she's talking about is Chelsea's best friend, Leah. And you
went around the table and Leah was there, you know,
sitting uh, sitting you know, one o or so over
from you, and you said that to her. I thought
(22:06):
I was actually going to see her cry, because you
rarely get to see Leah cry. She was, yoh, she's
in another room right now, Leah, come over and talk
to us. Come on, no, seriously, because this is big.
So this is Leah's who Chelsea is using as her
(22:27):
sounding board, her therapist. But you went around the table
and you.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Said, you know, we all went around the table, we
all do things that were thankful for Yeah, and definitely
this year I am one thankful for Leah and and
for my family of course, but for because she has
been my sounding board from that Literally, she was the
first phone call that I made when I opened up
(22:53):
my Pronovo scan and I said, okay, I was going
through all of the stuff with her and then I said, okay,
there's uh tumorami ovary and so we just you know,
she's always I've always sent her my test results.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And you know, does she ever not pick up your
phone call?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
She always does, you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Know, But is she ever not? And if she doesn't,
do you go? What the fuck?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I owe it? I know where she is. We have
each other's location, so I know, like we always talk
to each other at a certain time every day. But
if I know if she's somewhere else, you know, we can't.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, is this the reason you're you know? And and
it's totally understandable after what you went through and anybody
that has gone through any kind of a medical you know,
any kind of emergencies that have happened changed. Yeah, our
big life changing moments like this, I can see where
this would be similar to them. They all of a
(23:56):
sudden start changing emotionally. But is this what you're letting
your son sleep in a room with again?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Last year? I love you you're getting when you I
hate when you say that, But when you die, I'm
donating your brain for research. And I don't know what part.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Of your cushions from radio Geme.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
You don't know radio is very safe. How you get
in your head hitting in radio, but you're literally something
can happen in front of you, and you rewrite it
to radio version all of the time.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah. No, I'm using that as a joking analogy. They
call that, so tie it all back into one. I
do think it's good that you Heavilyah to talk to.
I do also think it would be good for you
to have somebody else to talk to. And I do
think that. And it's funny because you're very supportive, if
(24:52):
not encouraging, of me to call my therapist or the
boys to call and get therapy. But yet you were afraid.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Because I'm no, no, no, no no. I think I also
know what will benefit me. And Leah knows everything. She
knows me. She's known me since I was in second grade,
so she knows it all. And I don't want to
have to sit there and have to spend a couple
(25:21):
of sessions explaining everything to someone else. I got it
like I have someone. And again, I I know Lee
enough to where if she didn't want to hear it
anymore if she can't hear it anymore, like she'll say,
you know, I know her enough that she'll do. And honestly,
it's not whereas in the beginning it was every conversation,
(25:44):
It's not like that anymore. It's now back to where
we were a little bit before, to where we talk
about other stuff too. So it's it. It was very
consuming at the beginning, where that's all I could think of,
you know, hurting myself, like some of my things that happen,
my surgery, injuring those like, there are things that was
(26:04):
consumed my every thought. It doesn't consume me anymore, so
I know I'm getting better with that, and I just
I think that also, this is just part of it.
It's part of the journey. At the beginning, that's very, very,
very scary. I'm always going to have the you know
what if when does it come? All of those I
(26:25):
think they'll all be there, but I think they're just
going to get quieter and not be as loud, So
they and they are getting quieter. I don't dwell on
it like I used to, at least I don't think
that I do.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You know, we go through our phones a lot of
times and look back at pictures or we get our
Facebook memories that come into play. I know this weekend,
I think I got every Thanksgiving that we had for
at least the last five to six years. And you
go through these memories and you see where you were
when and how you look and all the rest of
(27:01):
that stuff. Interesting to go back on these podcasts and
to go back even a year or two years now,
because you can go back a couple of years on
the podcast and see where we were after Thanksgiving and
what our lives were like, and then kind of look
and see how different things are. Because where I think
that us doing this podcast is such a good thing
(27:22):
for being able to at least communicate to people and
give them something to relate to. I think that it's
also good for us too to document a lot of
where we are in our relationship and look back, because
we are going to in a year from now, be
faced with a completely different time in our lives, because
(27:43):
we're going to have a child that's going to be
getting ready to get married, and we're also going to
look back on you thriving. I believe, and I know
you believe, and in God willing physically, you know, and
look back on this and go back and say, wow,
(28:03):
do you remember when you know I was so scared
about this happening?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, for sure, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I think it's definitely something to look back on.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Well, I just think, you know, I would ask because
I'm not going to remind you every day that I
need you. So I have said it to you before,
and I'm going to say it again. I'm not gonna
That's not who I am like reminding you every day.
I do need a little bit more grace and understanding
during this time of what I'm going through, and sometimes
I don't even understand.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Also have to remember a lot of this is hormonal
for me because I went through medical menopause a couple
months ago, so everything was taken out of my body,
all my reproductive organs, and along with that came a
lot of emotional things that I can't even I don't
even recognize myself when I'm getting upset about either a
(28:55):
phone call or something you've said, or something that's going on.
Not an excuse, but I'm just telling you what's going on.
So I'm hoping that eventually things will level back out
again and all you know, being but if not, you know,
I don't know what to tell you. Pick up your
(29:15):
fucking phone when I call.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And I will tell you this. And I think that
we've talked before. I think that the listeners think I
ignore you NonStop because hey, I don't put my phone down.
You say, you know all the time, I say, but
we do spend a great amount of time together. There's
not a lot of couples that spend the time that
we spend together.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
We are physically in the same house, yes, but are
we And it's fine. Again, Sometimes I would like you
to be more present, but I get it. It's it's
very difficult, and sometimes I don't want you to be present,
you know.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, Well, in our relationship has always been one where
there has been a level of what you just said,
to be more present than there's other times where I'm
trying to be more present with you or trying to
get more clinging with you, and you're like the fuck
away from it.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
But that's just a relationship, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
There you go. I am thankful for you, and I
am thankful that you are good and that you know
you're healthy and and that you know God God got
you through this. I really am. So I want you
to know that, even though you're more thankful for Leah
than you are of me. But that's okay, you know.
(30:33):
And she won't even come on our podcast for us.
She just screams from the other room. Now she doesn't
have to listen to the podcast. We got one less
wit listeners.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
We're gonna make her download it anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, exactly. We got at least get the the the
We got to get the number, all right, thanks for
listening to the We Don't Podcast.
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