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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio. Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It is May the twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, and
I'm in Greenville, South Carolina, Quaine City. That's all I
can say. The weather's quite different. Usually it's seventy five
to eighty five and short sleeves and short pants weather.
And I landed yesterday Miss Gwenn Blackbirdy and I and
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it was fifty two degrees and I think they say
right now it's forty nine outside and raining, So quite
different scenery than I'm used to when I come here
for our conference meeting. Everyone knows that the SEC is
having its conference meetings going on right now, which we'll
get into. But I'm also experiencing our conference meeting the NCCAA,
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and I'll be here until Friday. So welcome back to
E Sports Radio. Yes it is Wednesday. We all know
that is hump Day. I hope everyone had a tremendous
Memorial Day holiday Friday. We listened to a little clip.
A lot of people have given a lot from a
Memorial Day. It's one of the most important holidays in
my opinion. So again, I hope you all had a
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great time. Now let me introduce my co host, one
and only, Anthony Eves andthy Welcome to the show. How
are you.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing down there in Greenville,
South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I'm gonna tell you what. We'll get to that.
We're gonna get to that. But let me just finish this.
This is EVE Sports Radio phone numbers five zero, two, five, seven,
seventy nine hundred. It's Sports Talk seven ninety. Of course
that's KRD. We've got shedding behind the glass and we're
ready to rock and roll. So Anthony, let's just everyone knows.
I have to tell them about my travel escapades. Everyone
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is traveled, most people have traveled, and most people have flown.
So Anthony, here we go. I leave yesterday morning, no problem.
Get to the airport. Look at my flight. It's delayed. Okay,
no problem. I've got a to hour window in Atlanta
to get to my connecting flight, so I'm not too concerned.
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It's the late fifteen minutes, no problems. The late thirty minutes,
no problem. It's the late forty five minutes, and we're
starting to have a problem. It's the late fifty minutes.
We're going to have a problem. By the time we
get on the plane at Louisvie and take off. Of course,
Miss Gwyn Blackburn and I we miss our connection, that's all, Anthony.
We miss our connection in Atlanta, so we have to
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go to one of the help desk. Of course, boom boom,
no long lines. Quickly I went to the delta room
and was going. We went with me and I ate
good set around. It was fine, Anthony. We get on
our flight from Atlanta to Greenville, South Carolina. Truly, you
all at thirty five to forty minute flight backs. We
sat on the tarmac longer than the flight. It's raining,
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like you know what, Anthony, I mean. This weather is awful.
I mean awful. So we taxi out and we're the
fourth plane from taking off. The pilot comes on and says,
we're gonna hold right here because the weather's so bad
they've shut down the airport. No problem by me. I
have no problem with staying on the ground, guys, nothing whatsoever.
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So of course I start watching movies on the plane
and just different things. We sit there and the pilot
comes back on. It'll be another fifteen minutes. The pilot
comes back on, it'll be another fifteen minutes. And this
is all airlines, is just I Delta guys. They shut
down Atlanta's airport. That's all airlines. So next thing you know,
I pass out, fall asleep like I do, Anthony. All
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of a sudden, I feel this flying. I'm like, okay, good,
next thing I know, and I sleep through everything, Anthony.
I mean honestly, I thought the plane was gonna turn
upside down, Anthony. I've flown for sixty six I think
my first flight was at thirteen West until flew me
to Baltimore, Maryland to his basketball camp. I was a counselor,
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thirteen or fourteen years old. And if the nc of
Kentucky High School Sports Association would have known it, Anthony,
I'd have been ineligible because Western self paid me. That's
the truth. But too late now, any too late now, brother,
But Wes paid me. I went up and I was
a counselor and I played against the kids from Maryland.
I had a ball. But that was my first flight.
I'll never forget. I put a suit on, Anthony, and
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a time my dad would not let me try. I
had a suit and tie on. So I've been doing
this a long time. Fifty two or three or four years.
I've been flying regularly, I mean all the time, and
it was the worst thirty minutes I've ever endured in
my life. I didn't think we're gonna make it. I said,
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it's going to end going to the NCCAA in Greenville,
South Carolina. For me, I said, no way. And I
mean it was that bad, duo, Anthony. I thought the
plane was going to turn upside down. We were bouncing
and knocking you to thought people were throwing I mean
haymakers straight on the jaw. I'd never felt any turbulence
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like yesterday, Anthony. That plane just kept rising rising the
next thing, you know, once we got out of it,
clear smooth, three or four five minutes later, I think
we're just sending to come in to Greenville, South Carolina.
And we landed. I'm telling you, I was almost Anthony
like the Gladiator movie. I was getting ready to get
down and just kiss the ground when we walked off.
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I'm not kidding, Anthony. I wanted to bend over and
kiss the carbon in the airport. Thank you Lord. That's
no joke, guys. It was just that bad. So anyway,
I'm here shaken, not stirred like James Bond, just shaking
but not stirred. So that was my trip yesterday at Greenville,
South Carolina. I'm hoping that the trip back will not
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be as bad. But and I know you've had You've
traveled quite a bit. You played at Chicago State and
you all went to the West coast for probably half
of your games in your conference. So all this crying
that we heard from me Cronan A schools had been
doing it for forever. But you know, Cronan was crying,
now we have to go east with EU c l
A too often. So he dropped out of one of
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the games. Kentucky ended up picking up Saint John's and
coach Matino. But anyway, tell me about your experience flying.
Tell me about a bad experience, Anthony ed any.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Honestly, throughout college, I didn't. I didn't have any bad
flight experiences. Sometimes it'd be long, there'd be longer try
longer flights, the longer days in the airport, catching buses.
When you land, shoot arounds, the days would be long.
You know, they could be from anywhere from four thirty
five o'clock in the morning until ten o'clock at night
and it's just kind of how sometimes. But no, no,
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turbles was never really bad. We never I don't think
we have really had any delayed flights. We never missed flights,
never got canceled. Oh you're so you never had We
never had a cancel flight.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, all I'm gonna tell you one thing is James
Bond said, shake, get not stirred. I was both yesterday
and I came off. I'm telling you, I wanted to
grab ground and gravel like the Gladiator. I'm telling you
I was like, boy, I'm so glad I'm walking. Oh
it was bad. So anyway, we've got a lot to
get to you at seven thirteen, we've got a lot
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is transpired the NBA. Of course we're gonna dig into
that first. Antney. I even have to slap myself because
I'm critical of Halliburton because he can't always go get forty.
You know, he's not shake Gildis Alexander. He just can't.
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You know, He's not the Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant that
I'm used to putting up on a pedestal. I've always
knocked him, but dang it, the boys really good, Anthony.
I'm gonna stop. Halliburton is really good. I watched him
last night. He is really good. He's just more of
a point guard, and for some reason, as a point
guard in the NBA, I should have been given him
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more credit, Anthony, because he is a true he is
a point guard. He can score it, but that's not
his attribute. He's not a super athlete. He's not dunking
on you, Anthony. He just wants to run teams and
he did an excellent job last night. What's your opinion
of Tyre's Halliburton. What do you think as a triple
double last night?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
His game is unorthodox. I'll put it like that. It's
not the normal what you see most superstar in All
Star players play, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's
just some people don't like it because he's not technically
a one on one style player exactly. He's better in
an efficient offense. He's good with the pacers and how
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their play style is because they're even across the board.
That's one of the reasons why he didn't play on
the Olympic team in the USA, because he's not a
one on one player. You can't put him out there
and just make a move on a bunch of different
European teams and blow by him and dunk on him.
Every other player to shoot threes in your face because
he just doesn't do that. He doesn't that just going
out there and making his own move. He doesn't do
it much on the Pacers. He has a lot more
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confidence and flexibility under Greg Carlisle. So who'll go out
there and shoots step back three? He's fading away after
he's hit a couple of league gets flowing. He gets
the offense to go on the team's hot. They have
a crowd fan based that's energetic and kind of booster
the morale. Then you'll see Tyres Halliburton start to explode
more as a player. But he is efficient. The one
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thing I will say is even other players have said
he's a fun all start to play with because he's
not selfish and he wants others to score the ball
as well. You can see it throughout.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He said that he's doing a straight jab at Leonard.
When he was talking about playing with Indiana. We all
know Pascal one one with Toronto. He says, playing with
Indiana is like a breath of fresh air. Anthony, he says,
without a doubt. We're all just play and he had
been playing with Leonard, which we all know he's a
douggie downer without a doubt. But Anthony, he just playoffs.
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Fourteen games, thirty five minutes a game, nineteen points a game.
Anthony got me. He is. He is efficient. He's not
going to score tons of points. Again. He's a thirty
three percent, almost thirty four percent three point shooter. He
has a forty seven percent two point shooter, Anthony, which
is a very good statistic for today's era. He's an
eighty percent free throat shooter. Anthony. He is just a
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true point guard. And everyone always we just want Michael
Jordan and Kobe Bryant. We do, I do, But after
last night, I loved Indiana's up tempo Anthony. The Utah
Jazz in my era there played the exact same way.
We averaged one hundred and twenty points a game. We
wanted to be up and down once the team scored it.
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We wanted the ball in bounds and up the floor
in four seconds looking to score it, and when they
missed it, we wanted to even be quicker than that.
Frank Layton wanted up tempo and you're getting a chance
to see that Indiana was running that floor yesterday, and
I mean it was a fun game tour, just different
than walk it up and watch somebody play one on one.
I mean, that's just the bottom line. Now. I'm not
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saying the series is over, Anthony. I'm not saying the
Knicks are dead. They're on a respirator, doesn't look good,
but I'm not saying they're dead. I think that the
Knicks will win the next game, Game five, make it
three to two, and then it puts the pressure on
the Pacers to win game six. So this is still
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going to be a very good series. It really is.
And Anthony a person that we had given a hard
time to you and I not on the radio, but
car Anthony Towns, he even taking the ball to the
basket now and he's playing really well. I mean he
took over not last night's game of the game before
Car Anthony Towns took it over. So there's just a
lot of good sports going on right now, a lot
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of good players emerging. I think that people don't want
to give credit to but a last night's game, boy,
it just reminded me of the jazz the Pacers got
up and down. Now for old old sports fans in
the city of Louisville, everyone remembers fifty years ago Kentucky
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Colonels defeated the Indiana Pacers in the ABA Championship. And
now I'm watching I watched Rick Smith's Pacers, Isaiah Thomas coaching,
and I coached against the Larry Bird Pacers. I've watched
them all now, the Rick Carlile Pacers, the Larry Brown
Pacers that have been in the NBA reaching Eastern Conference Finals,
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the Reggie Miller choke artist with Spike Lee, and all
I can say, and you weren't even born, but here
I am in the city of Louisville. I'd love to
have an NBA team, but we don't. We do not.
And the Pacers, I want people to understand. Fifty years
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ago they were going around fundraising, I mean, asking for
people for dollars for Nichols to get into the NBA.
But they had the foresight to understand and did not.
My city, Louisville. I just want everyone to know what
we're watching on TV with the Pacers. We should be
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watching on television in the city of Louisville, but we're not.
Our leadership has been so bad for so long it's
just not worthy of speaking about. And guys, the sports
entertainment business is a taxable business that helps your community.
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Everyone gets so hung up, Anthony, and what the athletes make,
who cares you tax them good? But the coaches make,
who care taxable dollars? Anthony, arenas oh businesses that thrive
off of those businesses, Anthony. Our leadership has been so
bad and people hate for me to go back. And
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I'm talking to you, Anthony about community leaders Today they
called me up and said, Jerry, get over it. Water
under the bridge. It is. But I still can't believe
that I watched the Indianapolis five hundred and the very
same day an NBA playoff game. So I want people
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to think before we go to break, when you'd love
to add the Kentucky derby at five point thirty six
and then a Kentucky Colonel's game at eight o'clock on
national TV in the playoffs. It should have happened. It
could have happened twice, and our community turned its nose
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to it twice billions of dollars, not millions, billions of
taxable dollars. So every time I watch the Pacers. I'm
telling you every time I watched them Indie, I watched
the Indianapolis five hundred and all they said is and
tonight the Pacers are going to be playing a playoff
game in the eat CERN Conference semifinals. It just made
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me go. Made the hair on my head, which I
don't have any stand up. So when we get back,
we're gonna talk a little bit about OKAC seven twenty
one Anthony. Then we're gonna get into this college football
spectrum because Anthony, times are changing quickly and the SEC
and the Big Ten are trying to change the page
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on all these other colleges. They better hurry up and
keep up. It's E Sports Radio, which means we need
good leadership in the ACC with our athletic directors and
our presidents E Sports Radio. We'll talk to you in
a minute. Welcome back to E Sports Radio. Seven twenty five.
I did kiss the ground. Yes, people were saying, yes,
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I did. I should have kissed it twice. That playing
flight was frightening. That's all there is to it. You
can say what you want when you have no control,
and you know everyone says have a safe trip. I'm like,
tell the pilots have a safe trip. I've got nothing
to do with it. I'm doing this sleepy pile. Is
that excellent job brought us in? Thank you Lord. Anyway,
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welcome back to the sports radio from numbers five, zero, two, five, seven,
seventy nine hundred. I know everyone's had well. Anthony has
flown quite a bit. You're fortunate at Anthony. I mean,
I've had some scary ones. I really have. So let's
get to us. Anthony. We haven't spoke. Maybe you and
George did, but I haven't spoke much about shake Yielding's
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Alexander MVP. Without a doubt, Anthony has been improving every
season in the NBA. George Williams did hit this one
on the head. He did. He hit the nail on
the head. He did. He said that kid's gonna be
really good. When he played in the McDonald's game, your
mother was there, Frank, you weren't there. You were still
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at Chicago State. But your brother and I and your
mom were there. We watched him play. I said, he
is good. It was one of the lower rated Kentucky
players coming in at the time, but we all know
that Kentucky was always getting you know, three of the
top ten players in the country, but ends up taking
a certain job after about five or six games, Anthony,
and that was It's been history since then. I love him.
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He's the best mid range player I've seen in a
long long time. His strength is not his three point shot.
He doesn't shoot a ton of him, Anthony. I wasn't
a three point shooter. I taught you and Frankie to shoot.
But he still does more than adequate job at that.
But that boy is efficient. So in the playoffs when
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it matters MVP, he's playing thirty six minutes a game
after twenty nine point five points a game, Anthony shooting
forty seven percent from the field. He's struggling from the
three point line in the playoffs at twenty eight point nine,
but he's shooting forty seven where he lives, and he's
shooting eighty five point three percent at the free throw line.
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Other piece I love about him, Manthony. He will defend
okse guard They really do? They guard you? I mean Edwards.
People are giving him a hard time, even myself, Anthony, Okay,
see guards you. That's all there is to it. They
have a college concept. They abide by it. They make
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you shoot jump shots, they can test you. They rebound
the ball and they run it down your throat. But
Shake Gildicks, I mean got Lee MVP and and I
see him terrorizing the league for about five years. I
really do. I see him getting nothing but better as
he's continuing to mature with the game. And I all
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players kind of you've seen them. They'll ask for a
call here or there. But his gestures, his mannerisms with
Shake gildis Alexander, how he carries himself even with his
frustrations and guys, I want everybody to know it's an
emotional game. And yes there were times when I played,
I was upset in playoff games, Anthony, to where I
was upset, I was, you know, I wasn't composed. Everybody,
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you should be composed. You're the point guard. I don't
hear on that until you really compete at a real game.
There's moments that you're not. But he still does a
great job of handling his emotions. I just love the
way he plays, Anthony. I think Anthony, if OKC can
add just the right player in this draft, and we
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know they'll be between twenty and thirty. But there are
a lot of sleepers out there, they can recruit, find
the right player to help. I would say, rebound the ball,
help with defensive presence. I love Chad what he's doing,
Hobrid what he's doing, but that body of his I'm
always nervous that he could get injured at any moment. Anthony,
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They've got a great group of guys to where they
can make a run at this thing. I've always picked
Oka See. I'm staying oka See. What do you think?
What do you think does Oka See win this thing?
Do they finish it tonight? First thing? Do they finish
it at home?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We'll finish it at home. The only controversy I say
to the okac Thunder is that majority of their team
is on rookie or very low contracts. And when I
say that is him, obviously you know Sga will resign,
the will probably want to resign Jaylen Williams. But those
other key role players that everybody's like, oh, okay see,
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it will be the best team for the next five years,
they won't because they have to pay them. Okay everybody, okay,
okay See. Is not a big market team. We already
know that they don't play a lot of the players
even the players that they had in recent history, like
all we can even go back to the James hard
and Kem Durant, Russell Westbrook. They were all younger in
their careers. They weren't on super Max contracts. Chet Holmgrom
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is gonna be a twenty five million dollar guy, Jaylen
Willams gonna be a thirty million dollar guy. Sga is
gonna be forty million.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Even if role.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Players like Crusoe, Case Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Isaiah Hartenstein. You
have to pay all of them, and even the new
guys coming in, they are gonna be on the rookie contract.
You can keep them awhile, that's why the draft is
so important for them. But you can't say from four
years from now, every guy on that team, in the
way that the NBA market works so far, in their
starting lineup, everybody on that team is worth twenty million
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dollars at least, okay, even at least at least.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And Alexander Shay's gonna make sixty million, You're one hundred
percent he's gonna make sixty million. You're right. They can't
pay him sixty which they're going to Chad Hogren. They'll
pay fifty five after that, Anthony, You're right, they're gonna
lose Williams or they're gonna lose Wiggins, I mean Cason
Wallace as he continues, and that boy's improving. I mean,
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you're right. At There's it's really difficult for that level
market to pay with there because and they've done They've
done a great job of drafting. So they're gonna have
to continue because you're right, they're gonna get cherry picked.
People are going to pull from their roster. I was
saying that they could be great. They're gonna keep Shae
for five years, but to keep that nucleus around him,
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he's gonna be a little bit more difficult, Anthony, unless
unless the players want to play with each other and
see that they've got a chance to win multiple championships,
is there? Only that's the only saving Grace Fro.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That ain't happening. Only only player has done in the
last twenty years is taking a pay cut of Jalen Brothers.
And you see how that's working out for him.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well, I mean, he's a great player. But you're right,
he did give to the Knicks. I agree, I mean,
and they're in it. The Knicks losing.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
The five games Indiana Pacers, if you were being seas.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Best, I can't. It's not my fault at.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The beginning, at the beginning of the year, even midway.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Through the season, calves folded.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And in fact, I can keep pushing it back, even
for even when the playoffs started, you would have never
been like I would not have would be a three
one on the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Anthony, I said, Okay, see, Cleveland Cavaliers, the Calves folded
on me. Had a few injuries, but they still folded.
I don't in playoff time, Anthony, you have to win.
I say that for football, I say that for basketball.
I say that in college. They folded. So I picked Okay, see,
I just didn't think Cleveland. I never picked Boston. I
didn't expect Boston to get there. Even before the injury.
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I did not pick Boston. I picked Cleveland. So, yes,
you're right, we could have had a Boston Celtics Cleveland Cavaliers.
That's what people were expecting to see. But it's not
what happened. At that's all. It's just not what has happened.
But I still I'm going to start to give Halliburton
more credit. Anthony I'm gonna stop knocking that boy. The
Pacers played well, they're improving, Anthony, They've got a young nucleus.
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I like their style of play. I do.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I don't like, but are you gonna be Are you
gonna be saying this if they go and play okay,
see and they losing four or five games five, they're
gonna lose him. Are you gonna be giving Halibert in
the same credit? Now, let me tell you we're not
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giving when I give you know, we're not giving Anthony
Edwards any credit anywhere. We're saying that, Okay, he has
good I'll I.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Want him to do more, but I'm not killing that man.
He's been to Western Conference in my finals twice. Now,
I'm not killing that now. Anthony had a friend of
mine who said, ant man never wins it, and I said,
listen to me, let's just let him have a few.
They've been in the finals the last two years. I'm
giving him credit for that. And I didn't know. I'm
telling you, I got a really close friend of mine
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that said the exact same thing you said. I know
he's not gonna beat Okay, see, they're not. But he
has put Minnesota in the Western Conference finals twice, and
you know everybody, everybody can't win it. An that's just
that means out of all my years playing Anthony, I
want you to think about this now, I won a high
school championship one time in four years I played four.
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I won a college championship one time in four years.
I went to two final fours. Now, maybe if I
played in today's era, i'd played eight years, Ridney McCrae
might have got three championships. I might have got two.
But Anthony, I was still successful. I didn't win it,
but I wouldn't let people tell me I wasn't successful
when I wasn't good. I was a competitor. Only one
person wins it. So that means out all the time
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I played Anthony NBA, we won thirty games my first year.
My second year at Utah, we went to the semi
finals of the Western Conference, and I call that a success. Andy,
we were the worst team in the league when I
went our second year, we lost at Phoenix Kyle Macy,
Walter Davis, Rick Roby and the semi finals. That's when
I tore my knee up. So and that's the only
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problem that when you look at it that way. That
means all my other years I wasn't successful, even though
I won two. I got a high school chip, I
got a college chip, I didn't get an NBA chip.
And I mean I was just glad I made it.
But I mean simply true fact. So I mean, yes,
I want it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I told you I wanted him to shoot it. I said,
Anthony Edwards, go lose the game. Anthony, I told you
the same thing in the playoffs. You remember you told
everybody I met you the locker room. I said, I
don't care what happened, shoot the ball. Put it on
you to win or lose it. That means you're gonna win.
And you went out and made every shot in the
second half, didn't you? Do you remember? Tell the truth?
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Tell the truth.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You're getting a little from what I was talking about,
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But what I'm telling you is that around the.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
World now, I just said credit.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yes, he's in the finals. I gotta give him credit. Rudy,
he's in the finals.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's not answering my question necessarily. Okay, I'm saying you're
giving him credit now because he made it to the finals.
I'm talking about what he's saying to do in the finals.
I'm saying, if he goes to the finals and we're
seeing these good performances now against the New York Knicks,
which he is doing. But if he goes there in
the finals and he goes places against Oka See, which
is supposed to be the defensive team. They shut down
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a lot players. They have Anthony Edwards, Julius rand Out
are scoring six twelve points a night. If you go
out there and Halliburn's scoring twelve points, five sists, four
rebounds and found out in the fourth quarter, are you
gonna say, Halibert, Haliburton is this great point guard. I
should have gave him more credit.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm like, here's what I'm gonna say. Here's what I'm
gonna say.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I mean, if you're playing against win, it matters emotion,
you don't show up.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Here's what I'm not really say this. When I got
after Anthony Edwards, he didn't shoot it enough, and I
said that when you are the man, and he is
the man, Anthony Edwards, Halliburton is also got me, but
they're more of a team basis. But Anthony Edwards is
the man tonight. If he goes five for thirteen, I'm
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going to say tomorrow, he didn't put it on his
shoulders to go get it. He is the scoring mechanism
on that team. He and Randall got me. Anthony Halliburton
plays differently, and I say, and he does, and you
know that, and I didn't like it. I've always knocked Caliburton,
but I'm giving him credit for leading his team because
he's done that. But all I'm saying is for tonight's game,
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all I want to see Antony Edwards is try to
put it on your shoulders. I want to see you
thirteen for twenty nine forty seven percent. That's fine, but
I want to see twenty nine shots. That's your job.
That's what he's there to do, Anthony. He's not there
to facilitate. He's there to score. So I want to
see him try. If he doesn't go in, Anthony, making
is not success, just trying. So, yes, Halliburton, I want
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to see some numbers, but not at the level of
scoring as I do with Anthony Edwards. That's all. But
you do Alexample.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Do you know the Pacers record this season when Halliburton
scores twenty or more points.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I do not know. I do not They're.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Thirty one and four. Okay, So why would you not
want to go out here and try to score? Not
say you got to shoot twenty seven times a game,
but the statistics. We always say if the numbers don't lie.
So when he goes out there and he puts the
ball in the they win percent of the games. So
you can't be like he's a team player and he
goes up there is shoes eight shots, has twelve points
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and they lose by twenty in the first game. O
case wa, buddy, I need you to go out there
for twenty plus because when you do, we win games.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I mean, that's a hard one to knock. All I
know is Nie Smith, Nate Smith, Anthony, your guy hit
eight threes. They went on the road.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
My guy, he's.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No Anthony, Hold up, don't knock him. He guards the
mess out of Brunson. Oh that well, he bangs body
with Bruns. Brunson is tired of running into that kid.
And Anthony he's good. So no, you should take him.
He's good and he we're at seven thirty nine. We've
got to get the break. It's the sports radio. When
we come back, we're going to listen to Kirby. Smart Guys,
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my opinion the last five or six years, the best
coach in college football. He's got to talk about the
state of the game. Eaves Sports Radio will talk to
you in a minute. Welcome back to Eve Sports Radio,
seven forty six. I think it's the twenty eighth. It
is the twenty eighth. It's Wednesday. My mind's gone, been
gone for a long time. Welcome back to the sports radio.
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Got my son Anthony. Guys, we're gonna listen to. I
think Kirby smart truly. It's not a heart of it's
not hard, it's not gonna be a fight. He's one
of the best coaches top two or three in the
country or college football. And he's talking about the issues.
And I want to read this to you before I
throw it to shednon. The major theme lingering over the
SEC annual meetings this week is an air of uncertainty
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clouding the future of the sport, the fate of the
house versus the NCAA case, the college football playoff format,
and the league's football schedule in flux. Kirby thinks the
largest issue right now is the transfer portal, and he
only wants one of them. So let's listen to Kirby
smart for about a minute and thirty. Then Anthony and I.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Will discuss it understanding when people talk about old school
and there are a lot of your fans and fans
across college football who just are struggling with this new model.
I realize you're struggling with it too as a as
a traditional coach, But how is it different dealing with
young players who are making what you just alluded to.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's not the problem. Pause, it's not the it's not
the fact they're making money. It's not that it's not
an issue. The issue is.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
The inability to pinpoint what the rules are and what
we can do.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You know, like like nobody's upset.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
About what We're all very thankful players SEC players or
should be that they're the most marketable players, they get
the most coverage, they get seen on TV. I am
so comfortable with that. We're past that point. We just
want to know the parameters with which we're playing by
and be able to sustain a budget and have other
sports survive. I think every coach would take that at
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this point. There's no old school young school.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's none of that.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
We're comfortable paying the players, so are they are?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
They different any different to coach because not because maybe
the money, but the fact that you can lose them
at the drop of a hat.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, if they're wired the wrong way.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
They're different to coach because if they're leaving because you're
coaching them, then.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
You really didn't want them in the first place.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Okay, you know, so like for me, we're not going
to change how we coach, how we develop, and how
we grow things. And most kids and parents appreciate that now.
Parents always tell me, I really want my son to
come play there because I know you're still going to
coach them the right way. You're gonna push them, You're
going to demand excellence. You're not going to run from
the fact that they could leave. That is inevitable. They
could leave, but that doesn't make them more successful because
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they leave.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
We're talking to coach Kirby smart and certainly with your
background over in this state, what you're dealing with now
is similar in many ways because the expectations for Georgia
are almost insufferable. I had a guy called me yesterday.
Not that I'm saying that we have the most sensible
sample of callers.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But he has to say it. A bunch of callers,
Well they know it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
He said something like, do you feel like Georgia has swipt?
And I said, are you aware that they won the
SEC championship last year?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And I think that's where fans are though right now, Paul,
I think you forgot that.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I did forget that because because I now look at
your program as if you don't win the national championship,
it feels disappointing. Well, that's a good thing that you
do that, because I actually good thing, Thank you, Shennon,
And that is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That's where Kirby is taking this program, just like Nick
Saban had taken Alabama. If they don't win at Anthony,
people seem to think that, ooh, they're unworthy. That's like
the year they weren't able to repeat. I still can't
believe college football did that to George. I just can't.
When they lost in the championship game of the SEC
to Alabama and they didn't put them in it was
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a tragedy. It was just really really blasphemy. But here's
the problem. Georgia's football coach, Kirby's smart made it clear, however,
that there's one issue of paramount importance to the SEC
football coaches clarity in the future. The NCAA transfer portal
So the biggest decision that has to be made across
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football right now to me, and this is Kirby Smart
I'm reading for by Far is when the portal window
is and when there is one or two? Smart said
on Tuesday, we need one. There's one December ninth through
twenty eighth, and there's one April sixteenth through twenty fifth,
which he wants to change to one, Anthony, which I
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agree with completely, and he thinks it should be in April.
I think it should also be cause of that's when
the season, the academic season is over. People have forgotten
this bouncing around. I don't know how kids are staying eligible, Anthony,
and we'll talk about that tomorrow. But we're gonna just
stick with the transfer portal in kids leaving. Do you
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agree with limiting it to one opportunity per year?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
No, they should. It's just too much bounced around at
this point. It is I won't even say it chaotic.
It's just it's kind of messing up sports. Even teams
like I hate to say it, even some of my
own favorite teams like I can't even keep up with
the own roster. I don't know who signed, who's technically left.
People are putting their name in the draft or not
officially declaring keeping college eligibility. It's just there's so much
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going on. It's it's kind of it doesn't feel like
college sports anymore. It just feels like I'm watching like
the NBA, like a baby version. And everybody, I hate
to say, everybody knows how boring and how annoying the
NBA gets into the playoffs. Nobody watches the NBA regular season.
This is kind of how I'm feeling about college sports
a little bit. It's just like it's it's kind of
boring until March madness or it gets to college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You interesting concept. You sound old, Anthony. I can't believe
that you're supposed to say I can keep up with
all the movement. You're young, you live. I can't.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I can't keep up with all.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
It's a lot. It's a lot, Anthony, it's a lot.
Now it gives us you and I something to talk
about in dead periods, because it is a lot. Guys.
Here's problem. I want people to know before we leave today.
With the academic calendar, the NCAA and on. One of
the pluses that they did do years ago is that
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kids had to progress toward a degree or they would
be ineligible. And universities had to pay for summer school,
and they had to find the money so that they
kept the kids on progress to degree. And more student
athletes graduate at a higher rate than regular students. I
want people to know that. Let me say this again,
more student athletes graduate at a higher rate than regular students,
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which is a good thing. Okay, but with all this
movement and all this jumping around, one player was at
three schools in the same season, which is madness. We're
going to get into, which I think I would Coach Stoops,
which is for tomorrow, Anthony. My biggest issue is the
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tampering issue. Not the transfer a portal. I do want
to limit it to one, but that tamper issue, which
is what we're going to get into tomorrow. I think,
like Coach Stoop said, for a guy that has to
grow his players and has to go get a high
school kid red shirting, work with him, develop him, like
coach Stoops has got me and Coach brom had to
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try to do the same thing at Purdue, Anthony. He
had to try to do that at Purdue. He couldn't
just recruit with Ohio State and Michigan. He couldn't do that,
so he had to try to grow them. And it's
very hard. You can look at his record at Louisville
very good. His record at Purdue it was hit or miss,
because you're trying to grow your program to where you
can compete with the big dogs in the SEC Anthony
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no matter what, and the Big Ten in football, and
the big Dogs and basketball now they are, and baseball,
which we're going to get into tomorrow with a College
Baseball World Series going on, and we're going to have
to do something because the grades are going to start
to fall. There's no way that every university is taking
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every kid's great. So I'm explaining this to you, University
of Louisville. I've gone for two years, I've passed sixty hours.
I'm transferring to Kentucky, the University of Kentucky. I'm telling you,
the University of Kentucky is only going to accept thirty
six to forty of my hours from the University of Louisville.
Oh that's a rival. No, this is every school and
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the only school that I ever seen other than the
IVY League turned players away. Michigan did turn away Love
from North Carolina he did not have enough credits to transfer, Anthony.
Michigan University did it twice, a football player and a
basketball player. They did not accept them, saying that they
didn't have the hours to transfer in to keep him
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where he needed to be to graduate, so they denied it.
I don't know how many schools have done that, Anthy,
but I know Michigan did, and I have to give
Michigan credit. It's going to start to hurt the grades
and you're going to see people. If the NCAA makes
them adhere to that rule, which they need to do, Anthony,
it will slow down on the transferring because what will
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happen is only seniors will leave people with enough credit
hours to transfer and graduate. Now that they're not giving
people eight years anymore. They just denied Louisville's basketball players.
We well know. We'll have to see what transpires. That's
the rule, Anthony, that slows down the madness that. I
don't care if the SEC leaves the NCAA. The academic
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standards have to stay because it is college. I'm with
Kirby Smart pay the players still want my Anne Griff
would have made a million out of made ten dollars,
but I still want that ten dollars. You don't understand.
I don't care what anybody says deserved it, earned it
I wanted. But they cannot drop the academic standards, which
should slow down all this movement because every school. Just
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ask anyone that's had their kids try to transfer from
one school to another, Anthony, they know what I'm talking about.
They know that the other school it's not accepting all
those credits. So guys, have a wonderful day. Yes, I
was truly gladiator. I was trying to grab carpet and
kiss it yesterday. You think I'm playing Asthmas Gwynn Blackbird,
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she came off at plane said, I thought it was over.
It was just that bad God. Willie will be back tomorrow.
Love you a great job ATNY, Great job, Shannon. Talk
to y'all own Thursday. Bye bye,
Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio. Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're live.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
It is May the twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, and
I'm in Greenville, South Carolina, Quaine City. That's all I
can say. The weather's quite different. Usually it's seventy five
to eighty five and short sleeves and short pants weather.
And I landed yesterday Miss Gwenn Blackbirdy and I and
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it was fifty two degrees and I think they say
right now it's forty nine outside and raining, So quite
different scenery than I'm used to when I come here
for our conference meeting. Everyone knows that the SEC is
having its conference meetings going on right now, which we'll
get into. But I'm also experiencing our conference meeting the NCCAA,
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and I'll be here until Friday. So welcome back to
E Sports Radio. Yes it is Wednesday. We all know
that is hump Day. I hope everyone had a tremendous
Memorial Day holiday Friday. We listened to a little clip.
A lot of people have given a lot from a
Memorial Day. It's one of the most important holidays in
my opinion. So again, I hope you all had a
(01:11):
great time. Now let me introduce my co host, one
and only, Anthony Eves andthy Welcome to the show. How
are you.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing down there in Greenville,
South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I'm gonna tell you what. We'll get to that.
We're gonna get to that. But let me just finish this.
This is EVE Sports Radio phone numbers five zero, two, five, seven,
seventy nine hundred. It's Sports Talk seven ninety. Of course
that's KRD. We've got shedding behind the glass and we're
ready to rock and roll. So Anthony, let's just everyone knows.
I have to tell them about my travel escapades. Everyone
(01:47):
is traveled, most people have traveled, and most people have flown.
So Anthony, here we go. I leave yesterday morning, no problem.
Get to the airport. Look at my flight. It's delayed. Okay,
no problem. I've got a to hour window in Atlanta
to get to my connecting flight, so I'm not too concerned.
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It's the late fifteen minutes, no problems. The late thirty minutes,
no problem. It's the late forty five minutes, and we're
starting to have a problem. It's the late fifty minutes.
We're going to have a problem. By the time we
get on the plane at Louisvie and take off. Of course,
Miss Gwyn Blackburn and I we miss our connection, that's all, Anthony.
We miss our connection in Atlanta, so we have to
(02:30):
go to one of the help desk. Of course, boom boom,
no long lines. Quickly I went to the delta room
and was going. We went with me and I ate
good set around. It was fine, Anthony. We get on
our flight from Atlanta to Greenville, South Carolina. Truly, you
all at thirty five to forty minute flight backs. We
sat on the tarmac longer than the flight. It's raining,
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like you know what, Anthony, I mean. This weather is awful.
I mean awful. So we taxi out and we're the
fourth plane from taking off. The pilot comes on and says,
we're gonna hold right here because the weather's so bad
they've shut down the airport. No problem by me. I
have no problem with staying on the ground, guys, nothing whatsoever.
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So of course I start watching movies on the plane
and just different things. We sit there and the pilot
comes back on. It'll be another fifteen minutes. The pilot
comes back on, it'll be another fifteen minutes. And this
is all airlines, is just I Delta guys. They shut
down Atlanta's airport. That's all airlines. So next thing you know,
I pass out, fall asleep like I do, Anthony. All
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of a sudden, I feel this flying. I'm like, okay, good,
next thing I know, and I sleep through everything, Anthony.
I mean honestly, I thought the plane was gonna turn
upside down, Anthony. I've flown for sixty six I think
my first flight was at thirteen West until flew me
to Baltimore, Maryland to his basketball camp. I was a counselor,
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thirteen or fourteen years old. And if the nc of
Kentucky High School Sports Association would have known it, Anthony,
I'd have been ineligible because Western self paid me. That's
the truth. But too late now, any too late now, brother,
But Wes paid me. I went up and I was
a counselor and I played against the kids from Maryland.
I had a ball. But that was my first flight.
I'll never forget. I put a suit on, Anthony, and
(04:22):
a time my dad would not let me try. I
had a suit and tie on. So I've been doing
this a long time. Fifty two or three or four years.
I've been flying regularly, I mean all the time, and
it was the worst thirty minutes I've ever endured in
my life. I didn't think we're gonna make it. I said,
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it's going to end going to the NCCAA in Greenville,
South Carolina. For me, I said, no way. And I
mean it was that bad, duo, Anthony. I thought the
plane was going to turn upside down. We were bouncing
and knocking you to thought people were throwing I mean
haymakers straight on the jaw. I'd never felt any turbulence
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like yesterday, Anthony. That plane just kept rising rising the
next thing, you know, once we got out of it,
clear smooth, three or four five minutes later, I think
we're just sending to come in to Greenville, South Carolina.
And we landed. I'm telling you, I was almost Anthony
like the Gladiator movie. I was getting ready to get
down and just kiss the ground when we walked off.
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I'm not kidding, Anthony. I wanted to bend over and
kiss the carbon in the airport. Thank you Lord. That's
no joke, guys. It was just that bad. So anyway,
I'm here shaken, not stirred like James Bond, just shaking
but not stirred. So that was my trip yesterday at Greenville,
South Carolina. I'm hoping that the trip back will not
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be as bad. But and I know you've had You've
traveled quite a bit. You played at Chicago State and
you all went to the West coast for probably half
of your games in your conference. So all this crying
that we heard from me Cronan A schools had been
doing it for forever. But you know, Cronan was crying,
now we have to go east with EU c l
A too often. So he dropped out of one of
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the games. Kentucky ended up picking up Saint John's and
coach Matino. But anyway, tell me about your experience flying.
Tell me about a bad experience, Anthony ed any.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Honestly, throughout college, I didn't. I didn't have any bad
flight experiences. Sometimes it'd be long, there'd be longer try
longer flights, the longer days in the airport, catching buses.
When you land, shoot arounds, the days would be long.
You know, they could be from anywhere from four thirty
five o'clock in the morning until ten o'clock at night
and it's just kind of how sometimes. But no, no,
(06:41):
turbles was never really bad. We never I don't think
we have really had any delayed flights. We never missed flights,
never got canceled. Oh you're so you never had We
never had a cancel flight.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, all I'm gonna tell you one thing is James
Bond said, shake, get not stirred. I was both yesterday
and I came off. I'm telling you, I wanted to
grab ground and gravel like the Gladiator. I'm telling you
I was like, boy, I'm so glad I'm walking. Oh
it was bad. So anyway, we've got a lot to
get to you at seven thirteen, we've got a lot
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is transpired the NBA. Of course we're gonna dig into
that first. Antney. I even have to slap myself because
I'm critical of Halliburton because he can't always go get forty.
You know, he's not shake Gildis Alexander. He just can't.
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You know, He's not the Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant that
I'm used to putting up on a pedestal. I've always
knocked him, but dang it, the boys really good, Anthony.
I'm gonna stop. Halliburton is really good. I watched him
last night. He is really good. He's just more of
a point guard, and for some reason, as a point
guard in the NBA, I should have been given him
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more credit, Anthony, because he is a true he is
a point guard. He can score it, but that's not
his attribute. He's not a super athlete. He's not dunking
on you, Anthony. He just wants to run teams and
he did an excellent job last night. What's your opinion
of Tyre's Halliburton. What do you think as a triple
double last night?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
His game is unorthodox. I'll put it like that. It's
not the normal what you see most superstar in All
Star players play, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's
just some people don't like it because he's not technically
a one on one style player exactly. He's better in
an efficient offense. He's good with the pacers and how
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their play style is because they're even across the board.
That's one of the reasons why he didn't play on
the Olympic team in the USA, because he's not a
one on one player. You can't put him out there
and just make a move on a bunch of different
European teams and blow by him and dunk on him.
Every other player to shoot threes in your face because
he just doesn't do that. He doesn't that just going
out there and making his own move. He doesn't do
it much on the Pacers. He has a lot more
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confidence and flexibility under Greg Carlisle. So who'll go out
there and shoots step back three? He's fading away after
he's hit a couple of league gets flowing. He gets
the offense to go on the team's hot. They have
a crowd fan based that's energetic and kind of booster
the morale. Then you'll see Tyres Halliburton start to explode
more as a player. But he is efficient. The one
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thing I will say is even other players have said
he's a fun all start to play with because he's
not selfish and he wants others to score the ball
as well. You can see it throughout.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He said that he's doing a straight jab at Leonard.
When he was talking about playing with Indiana. We all
know Pascal one one with Toronto. He says, playing with
Indiana is like a breath of fresh air. Anthony, he says,
without a doubt. We're all just play and he had
been playing with Leonard, which we all know he's a
douggie downer without a doubt. But Anthony, he just playoffs.
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Fourteen games, thirty five minutes a game, nineteen points a game.
Anthony got me. He is. He is efficient. He's not
going to score tons of points. Again. He's a thirty
three percent, almost thirty four percent three point shooter. He
has a forty seven percent two point shooter, Anthony, which
is a very good statistic for today's era. He's an
eighty percent free throat shooter. Anthony. He is just a
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true point guard. And everyone always we just want Michael
Jordan and Kobe Bryant. We do, I do, But after
last night, I loved Indiana's up tempo Anthony. The Utah
Jazz in my era there played the exact same way.
We averaged one hundred and twenty points a game. We
wanted to be up and down once the team scored it.
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We wanted the ball in bounds and up the floor
in four seconds looking to score it, and when they
missed it, we wanted to even be quicker than that.
Frank Layton wanted up tempo and you're getting a chance
to see that Indiana was running that floor yesterday, and
I mean it was a fun game tour, just different
than walk it up and watch somebody play one on one.
I mean, that's just the bottom line. Now. I'm not
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saying the series is over, Anthony. I'm not saying the
Knicks are dead. They're on a respirator, doesn't look good,
but I'm not saying they're dead. I think that the
Knicks will win the next game, Game five, make it
three to two, and then it puts the pressure on
the Pacers to win game six. So this is still
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going to be a very good series. It really is.
And Anthony a person that we had given a hard
time to you and I not on the radio, but
car Anthony Towns, he even taking the ball to the
basket now and he's playing really well. I mean he
took over not last night's game of the game before
Car Anthony Towns took it over. So there's just a
lot of good sports going on right now, a lot
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of good players emerging. I think that people don't want
to give credit to but a last night's game, boy,
it just reminded me of the jazz the Pacers got
up and down. Now for old old sports fans in
the city of Louisville, everyone remembers fifty years ago Kentucky
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Colonels defeated the Indiana Pacers in the ABA Championship. And
now I'm watching I watched Rick Smith's Pacers, Isaiah Thomas coaching,
and I coached against the Larry Bird Pacers. I've watched
them all now, the Rick Carlile Pacers, the Larry Brown
Pacers that have been in the NBA reaching Eastern Conference Finals,
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the Reggie Miller choke artist with Spike Lee, and all
I can say, and you weren't even born, but here
I am in the city of Louisville. I'd love to
have an NBA team, but we don't. We do not.
And the Pacers, I want people to understand. Fifty years
(12:53):
ago they were going around fundraising, I mean, asking for
people for dollars for Nichols to get into the NBA.
But they had the foresight to understand and did not.
My city, Louisville. I just want everyone to know what
we're watching on TV with the Pacers. We should be
(13:13):
watching on television in the city of Louisville, but we're not.
Our leadership has been so bad for so long it's
just not worthy of speaking about. And guys, the sports
entertainment business is a taxable business that helps your community.
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Everyone gets so hung up, Anthony, and what the athletes make,
who cares you tax them good? But the coaches make,
who care taxable dollars? Anthony, arenas oh businesses that thrive
off of those businesses, Anthony. Our leadership has been so
bad and people hate for me to go back. And
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I'm talking to you, Anthony about community leaders Today they
called me up and said, Jerry, get over it. Water
under the bridge. It is. But I still can't believe
that I watched the Indianapolis five hundred and the very
same day an NBA playoff game. So I want people
(14:16):
to think before we go to break, when you'd love
to add the Kentucky derby at five point thirty six
and then a Kentucky Colonel's game at eight o'clock on
national TV in the playoffs. It should have happened. It
could have happened twice, and our community turned its nose
(14:39):
to it twice billions of dollars, not millions, billions of
taxable dollars. So every time I watch the Pacers. I'm
telling you every time I watched them Indie, I watched
the Indianapolis five hundred and all they said is and
tonight the Pacers are going to be playing a playoff
game in the eat CERN Conference semifinals. It just made
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me go. Made the hair on my head, which I
don't have any stand up. So when we get back,
we're gonna talk a little bit about OKAC seven twenty
one Anthony. Then we're gonna get into this college football
spectrum because Anthony, times are changing quickly and the SEC
and the Big Ten are trying to change the page
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on all these other colleges. They better hurry up and
keep up. It's E Sports Radio, which means we need
good leadership in the ACC with our athletic directors and
our presidents E Sports Radio. We'll talk to you in
a minute. Welcome back to E Sports Radio. Seven twenty five.
I did kiss the ground. Yes, people were saying, yes,
(15:43):
I did. I should have kissed it twice. That playing
flight was frightening. That's all there is to it. You
can say what you want when you have no control,
and you know everyone says have a safe trip. I'm like,
tell the pilots have a safe trip. I've got nothing
to do with it. I'm doing this sleepy pile. Is
that excellent job brought us in? Thank you Lord. Anyway,
(16:05):
welcome back to the sports radio from numbers five, zero, two, five, seven,
seventy nine hundred. I know everyone's had well. Anthony has
flown quite a bit. You're fortunate at Anthony. I mean,
I've had some scary ones. I really have. So let's
get to us. Anthony. We haven't spoke. Maybe you and
George did, but I haven't spoke much about shake Yielding's
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Alexander MVP. Without a doubt, Anthony has been improving every
season in the NBA. George Williams did hit this one
on the head. He did. He hit the nail on
the head. He did. He said that kid's gonna be
really good. When he played in the McDonald's game, your
mother was there, Frank, you weren't there. You were still
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at Chicago State. But your brother and I and your
mom were there. We watched him play. I said, he
is good. It was one of the lower rated Kentucky
players coming in at the time, but we all know
that Kentucky was always getting you know, three of the
top ten players in the country, but ends up taking
a certain job after about five or six games, Anthony,
and that was It's been history since then. I love him.
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He's the best mid range player I've seen in a
long long time. His strength is not his three point shot.
He doesn't shoot a ton of him, Anthony. I wasn't
a three point shooter. I taught you and Frankie to shoot.
But he still does more than adequate job at that.
But that boy is efficient. So in the playoffs when
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it matters MVP, he's playing thirty six minutes a game
after twenty nine point five points a game, Anthony shooting
forty seven percent from the field. He's struggling from the
three point line in the playoffs at twenty eight point nine,
but he's shooting forty seven where he lives, and he's
shooting eighty five point three percent at the free throw line.
(17:50):
Other piece I love about him, Manthony. He will defend
okse guard They really do? They guard you? I mean Edwards.
People are giving him a hard time, even myself, Anthony, Okay,
see guards you. That's all there is to it. They
have a college concept. They abide by it. They make
(18:10):
you shoot jump shots, they can test you. They rebound
the ball and they run it down your throat. But
Shake Gildicks, I mean got Lee MVP and and I
see him terrorizing the league for about five years. I
really do. I see him getting nothing but better as
he's continuing to mature with the game. And I all
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players kind of you've seen them. They'll ask for a
call here or there. But his gestures, his mannerisms with
Shake gildis Alexander, how he carries himself even with his
frustrations and guys, I want everybody to know it's an
emotional game. And yes there were times when I played,
I was upset in playoff games, Anthony, to where I
was upset, I was, you know, I wasn't composed. Everybody,
(18:56):
you should be composed. You're the point guard. I don't
hear on that until you really compete at a real game.
There's moments that you're not. But he still does a
great job of handling his emotions. I just love the
way he plays, Anthony. I think Anthony, if OKC can
add just the right player in this draft, and we
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know they'll be between twenty and thirty. But there are
a lot of sleepers out there, they can recruit, find
the right player to help. I would say, rebound the ball,
help with defensive presence. I love Chad what he's doing,
Hobrid what he's doing, but that body of his I'm
always nervous that he could get injured at any moment. Anthony,
(19:42):
They've got a great group of guys to where they
can make a run at this thing. I've always picked
Oka See. I'm staying oka See. What do you think?
What do you think does Oka See win this thing?
Do they finish it tonight? First thing? Do they finish
it at home?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We'll finish it at home. The only controversy I say
to the okac Thunder is that majority of their team
is on rookie or very low contracts. And when I
say that is him, obviously you know Sga will resign,
the will probably want to resign Jaylen Williams. But those
other key role players that everybody's like, oh, okay see,
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it will be the best team for the next five years,
they won't because they have to pay them. Okay everybody, okay,
okay See. Is not a big market team. We already
know that they don't play a lot of the players
even the players that they had in recent history, like
all we can even go back to the James hard
and Kem Durant, Russell Westbrook. They were all younger in
their careers. They weren't on super Max contracts. Chet Holmgrom
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is gonna be a twenty five million dollar guy, Jaylen
Willams gonna be a thirty million dollar guy. Sga is
gonna be forty million.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Even if role.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Players like Crusoe, Case Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Isaiah Hartenstein. You
have to pay all of them, and even the new
guys coming in, they are gonna be on the rookie contract.
You can keep them awhile, that's why the draft is
so important for them. But you can't say from four
years from now, every guy on that team, in the
way that the NBA market works so far, in their
starting lineup, everybody on that team is worth twenty million
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dollars at least, okay, even at least at least.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And Alexander Shay's gonna make sixty million, You're one hundred
percent he's gonna make sixty million. You're right. They can't
pay him sixty which they're going to Chad Hogren. They'll
pay fifty five after that, Anthony, You're right, they're gonna
lose Williams or they're gonna lose Wiggins, I mean Cason
Wallace as he continues, and that boy's improving. I mean,
(21:37):
you're right. At There's it's really difficult for that level
market to pay with there because and they've done They've
done a great job of drafting. So they're gonna have
to continue because you're right, they're gonna get cherry picked.
People are going to pull from their roster. I was
saying that they could be great. They're gonna keep Shae
for five years, but to keep that nucleus around him,
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he's gonna be a little bit more difficult, Anthony, unless
unless the players want to play with each other and
see that they've got a chance to win multiple championships,
is there? Only that's the only saving Grace Fro.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That ain't happening. Only only player has done in the
last twenty years is taking a pay cut of Jalen Brothers.
And you see how that's working out for him.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well, I mean, he's a great player. But you're right,
he did give to the Knicks. I agree, I mean,
and they're in it. The Knicks losing.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
The five games Indiana Pacers, if you were being seas.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Best, I can't. It's not my fault at.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The beginning, at the beginning of the year, even midway.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Through the season, calves folded.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And in fact, I can keep pushing it back, even
for even when the playoffs started, you would have never
been like I would not have would be a three
one on the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Anthony, I said, Okay, see, Cleveland Cavaliers, the Calves folded
on me. Had a few injuries, but they still folded.
I don't in playoff time, Anthony, you have to win.
I say that for football, I say that for basketball.
I say that in college. They folded. So I picked Okay, see,
I just didn't think Cleveland. I never picked Boston. I
didn't expect Boston to get there. Even before the injury.
(23:21):
I did not pick Boston. I picked Cleveland. So, yes,
you're right, we could have had a Boston Celtics Cleveland Cavaliers.
That's what people were expecting to see. But it's not
what happened. At that's all. It's just not what has happened.
But I still I'm going to start to give Halliburton
more credit. Anthony I'm gonna stop knocking that boy. The
Pacers played well, they're improving, Anthony, They've got a young nucleus.
(23:45):
I like their style of play. I do.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I don't like, but are you gonna be Are you
gonna be saying this if they go and play okay,
see and they losing four or five games five, they're
gonna lose him. Are you gonna be giving Halibert in
the same credit? Now, let me tell you we're not
(24:09):
giving when I give you know, we're not giving Anthony
Edwards any credit anywhere. We're saying that, Okay, he has
good I'll I.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Want him to do more, but I'm not killing that man.
He's been to Western Conference in my finals twice. Now,
I'm not killing that now. Anthony had a friend of
mine who said, ant man never wins it, and I said,
listen to me, let's just let him have a few.
They've been in the finals the last two years. I'm
giving him credit for that. And I didn't know. I'm
telling you, I got a really close friend of mine
(24:38):
that said the exact same thing you said. I know
he's not gonna beat Okay, see, they're not. But he
has put Minnesota in the Western Conference finals twice, and
you know everybody, everybody can't win it. An that's just
that means out of all my years playing Anthony, I
want you to think about this now, I won a high
school championship one time in four years I played four.
(25:00):
I won a college championship one time in four years.
I went to two final fours. Now, maybe if I
played in today's era, i'd played eight years, Ridney McCrae
might have got three championships. I might have got two.
But Anthony, I was still successful. I didn't win it,
but I wouldn't let people tell me I wasn't successful
when I wasn't good. I was a competitor. Only one
person wins it. So that means out all the time
(25:22):
I played Anthony NBA, we won thirty games my first year.
My second year at Utah, we went to the semi
finals of the Western Conference, and I call that a success. Andy,
we were the worst team in the league when I
went our second year, we lost at Phoenix Kyle Macy,
Walter Davis, Rick Roby and the semi finals. That's when
I tore my knee up. So and that's the only
(25:44):
problem that when you look at it that way. That
means all my other years I wasn't successful, even though
I won two. I got a high school chip, I
got a college chip, I didn't get an NBA chip.
And I mean I was just glad I made it.
But I mean simply true fact. So I mean, yes,
I want it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I told you I wanted him to shoot it. I said,
Anthony Edwards, go lose the game. Anthony, I told you
the same thing in the playoffs. You remember you told
everybody I met you the locker room. I said, I
don't care what happened, shoot the ball. Put it on
you to win or lose it. That means you're gonna win.
And you went out and made every shot in the
second half, didn't you? Do you remember? Tell the truth?
(26:23):
Tell the truth.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You're getting a little from what I was talking about,
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But what I'm telling you is that around the.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
World now, I just said credit.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yes, he's in the finals. I gotta give him credit. Rudy,
he's in the finals.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's not answering my question necessarily. Okay, I'm saying you're
giving him credit now because he made it to the finals.
I'm talking about what he's saying to do in the finals.
I'm saying, if he goes to the finals and we're
seeing these good performances now against the New York Knicks,
which he is doing. But if he goes there in
the finals and he goes places against Oka See, which
is supposed to be the defensive team. They shut down
(27:01):
a lot players. They have Anthony Edwards, Julius rand Out
are scoring six twelve points a night. If you go
out there and Halliburn's scoring twelve points, five sists, four
rebounds and found out in the fourth quarter, are you
gonna say, Halibert, Haliburton is this great point guard. I
should have gave him more credit.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm like, here's what I'm gonna say. Here's what I'm
gonna say.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I mean, if you're playing against win, it matters emotion,
you don't show up.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Here's what I'm not really say this. When I got
after Anthony Edwards, he didn't shoot it enough, and I
said that when you are the man, and he is
the man, Anthony Edwards, Halliburton is also got me, but
they're more of a team basis. But Anthony Edwards is
the man tonight. If he goes five for thirteen, I'm
(27:43):
going to say tomorrow, he didn't put it on his
shoulders to go get it. He is the scoring mechanism
on that team. He and Randall got me. Anthony Halliburton
plays differently, and I say, and he does, and you
know that, and I didn't like it. I've always knocked Caliburton,
but I'm giving him credit for leading his team because
he's done that. But all I'm saying is for tonight's game,
(28:04):
all I want to see Antony Edwards is try to
put it on your shoulders. I want to see you
thirteen for twenty nine forty seven percent. That's fine, but
I want to see twenty nine shots. That's your job.
That's what he's there to do, Anthony. He's not there
to facilitate. He's there to score. So I want to
see him try. If he doesn't go in, Anthony, making
is not success, just trying. So, yes, Halliburton, I want
(28:29):
to see some numbers, but not at the level of
scoring as I do with Anthony Edwards. That's all. But
you do Alexample.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Do you know the Pacers record this season when Halliburton
scores twenty or more points.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I do not know. I do not They're.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Thirty one and four. Okay, So why would you not
want to go out here and try to score? Not
say you got to shoot twenty seven times a game,
but the statistics. We always say if the numbers don't lie.
So when he goes out there and he puts the
ball in the they win percent of the games. So
you can't be like he's a team player and he
goes up there is shoes eight shots, has twelve points
(29:04):
and they lose by twenty in the first game. O
case wa, buddy, I need you to go out there
for twenty plus because when you do, we win games.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I mean, that's a hard one to knock. All I
know is Nie Smith, Nate Smith, Anthony, your guy hit
eight threes. They went on the road.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
My guy, he's.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No Anthony, Hold up, don't knock him. He guards the
mess out of Brunson. Oh that well, he bangs body
with Bruns. Brunson is tired of running into that kid.
And Anthony he's good. So no, you should take him.
He's good and he we're at seven thirty nine. We've
got to get the break. It's the sports radio. When
we come back, we're going to listen to Kirby. Smart Guys,
(29:48):
my opinion the last five or six years, the best
coach in college football. He's got to talk about the
state of the game. Eaves Sports Radio will talk to
you in a minute. Welcome back to Eve Sports Radio,
seven forty six. I think it's the twenty eighth. It
is the twenty eighth. It's Wednesday. My mind's gone, been
gone for a long time. Welcome back to the sports radio.
(30:08):
Got my son Anthony. Guys, we're gonna listen to. I
think Kirby smart truly. It's not a heart of it's
not hard, it's not gonna be a fight. He's one
of the best coaches top two or three in the
country or college football. And he's talking about the issues.
And I want to read this to you before I
throw it to shednon. The major theme lingering over the
SEC annual meetings this week is an air of uncertainty
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clouding the future of the sport, the fate of the
house versus the NCAA case, the college football playoff format,
and the league's football schedule in flux. Kirby thinks the
largest issue right now is the transfer portal, and he
only wants one of them. So let's listen to Kirby
smart for about a minute and thirty. Then Anthony and I.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Will discuss it understanding when people talk about old school
and there are a lot of your fans and fans
across college football who just are struggling with this new model.
I realize you're struggling with it too as a as
a traditional coach, But how is it different dealing with
young players who are making what you just alluded to.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's not the problem. Pause, it's not the it's not
the fact they're making money. It's not that it's not
an issue. The issue is.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
The inability to pinpoint what the rules are and what
we can do.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You know, like like nobody's upset.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
About what We're all very thankful players SEC players or
should be that they're the most marketable players, they get
the most coverage, they get seen on TV. I am
so comfortable with that. We're past that point. We just
want to know the parameters with which we're playing by
and be able to sustain a budget and have other
sports survive. I think every coach would take that at
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this point. There's no old school young school.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's none of that.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
We're comfortable paying the players, so are they are?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
They different any different to coach because not because maybe
the money, but the fact that you can lose them
at the drop of a hat.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, if they're wired the wrong way.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
They're different to coach because if they're leaving because you're
coaching them, then.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
You really didn't want them in the first place.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Okay, you know, so like for me, we're not going
to change how we coach, how we develop, and how
we grow things. And most kids and parents appreciate that now.
Parents always tell me, I really want my son to
come play there because I know you're still going to
coach them the right way. You're gonna push them, You're
going to demand excellence. You're not going to run from
the fact that they could leave. That is inevitable. They
could leave, but that doesn't make them more successful because
(32:27):
they leave.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
We're talking to coach Kirby smart and certainly with your
background over in this state, what you're dealing with now
is similar in many ways because the expectations for Georgia
are almost insufferable. I had a guy called me yesterday.
Not that I'm saying that we have the most sensible
sample of callers.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But he has to say it. A bunch of callers,
Well they know it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
He said something like, do you feel like Georgia has swipt?
And I said, are you aware that they won the
SEC championship last year?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And I think that's where fans are though right now, Paul,
I think you forgot that.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I did forget that because because I now look at
your program as if you don't win the national championship,
it feels disappointing. Well, that's a good thing that you
do that, because I actually good thing, Thank you, Shennon,
And that is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That's where Kirby is taking this program, just like Nick
Saban had taken Alabama. If they don't win at Anthony,
people seem to think that, ooh, they're unworthy. That's like
the year they weren't able to repeat. I still can't
believe college football did that to George. I just can't.
When they lost in the championship game of the SEC
to Alabama and they didn't put them in it was
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a tragedy. It was just really really blasphemy. But here's
the problem. Georgia's football coach, Kirby's smart made it clear, however,
that there's one issue of paramount importance to the SEC
football coaches clarity in the future. The NCAA transfer portal
So the biggest decision that has to be made across
(34:05):
football right now to me, and this is Kirby Smart
I'm reading for by Far is when the portal window
is and when there is one or two? Smart said
on Tuesday, we need one. There's one December ninth through
twenty eighth, and there's one April sixteenth through twenty fifth,
which he wants to change to one, Anthony, which I
(34:26):
agree with completely, and he thinks it should be in April.
I think it should also be cause of that's when
the season, the academic season is over. People have forgotten
this bouncing around. I don't know how kids are staying eligible, Anthony,
and we'll talk about that tomorrow. But we're gonna just
stick with the transfer portal in kids leaving. Do you
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agree with limiting it to one opportunity per year?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
No, they should. It's just too much bounced around at
this point. It is I won't even say it chaotic.
It's just it's kind of messing up sports. Even teams
like I hate to say it, even some of my
own favorite teams like I can't even keep up with
the own roster. I don't know who signed, who's technically left.
People are putting their name in the draft or not
officially declaring keeping college eligibility. It's just there's so much
(35:16):
going on. It's it's kind of it doesn't feel like
college sports anymore. It just feels like I'm watching like
the NBA, like a baby version. And everybody, I hate
to say, everybody knows how boring and how annoying the
NBA gets into the playoffs. Nobody watches the NBA regular season.
This is kind of how I'm feeling about college sports
a little bit. It's just like it's it's kind of
boring until March madness or it gets to college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You interesting concept. You sound old, Anthony. I can't believe
that you're supposed to say I can keep up with
all the movement. You're young, you live. I can't.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I can't keep up with all.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
It's a lot. It's a lot, Anthony, it's a lot.
Now it gives us you and I something to talk
about in dead periods, because it is a lot. Guys.
Here's problem. I want people to know before we leave today.
With the academic calendar, the NCAA and on. One of
the pluses that they did do years ago is that
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kids had to progress toward a degree or they would
be ineligible. And universities had to pay for summer school,
and they had to find the money so that they
kept the kids on progress to degree. And more student
athletes graduate at a higher rate than regular students. I
want people to know that. Let me say this again,
more student athletes graduate at a higher rate than regular students,
(36:33):
which is a good thing. Okay, but with all this
movement and all this jumping around, one player was at
three schools in the same season, which is madness. We're
going to get into, which I think I would Coach Stoops,
which is for tomorrow, Anthony. My biggest issue is the
(36:53):
tampering issue. Not the transfer a portal. I do want
to limit it to one, but that tamper issue, which
is what we're going to get into tomorrow. I think,
like Coach Stoop said, for a guy that has to
grow his players and has to go get a high
school kid red shirting, work with him, develop him, like
coach Stoops has got me and Coach brom had to
(37:16):
try to do the same thing at Purdue, Anthony. He
had to try to do that at Purdue. He couldn't
just recruit with Ohio State and Michigan. He couldn't do that,
so he had to try to grow them. And it's
very hard. You can look at his record at Louisville
very good. His record at Purdue it was hit or miss,
because you're trying to grow your program to where you
can compete with the big dogs in the SEC Anthony
(37:38):
no matter what, and the Big Ten in football, and
the big Dogs and basketball now they are, and baseball,
which we're going to get into tomorrow with a College
Baseball World Series going on, and we're going to have
to do something because the grades are going to start
to fall. There's no way that every university is taking
(37:59):
every kid's great. So I'm explaining this to you, University
of Louisville. I've gone for two years, I've passed sixty hours.
I'm transferring to Kentucky, the University of Kentucky. I'm telling you,
the University of Kentucky is only going to accept thirty
six to forty of my hours from the University of Louisville.
Oh that's a rival. No, this is every school and
(38:20):
the only school that I ever seen other than the
IVY League turned players away. Michigan did turn away Love
from North Carolina he did not have enough credits to transfer, Anthony.
Michigan University did it twice, a football player and a
basketball player. They did not accept them, saying that they
didn't have the hours to transfer in to keep him
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where he needed to be to graduate, so they denied it.
I don't know how many schools have done that, Anthy,
but I know Michigan did, and I have to give
Michigan credit. It's going to start to hurt the grades
and you're going to see people. If the NCAA makes
them adhere to that rule, which they need to do, Anthony,
it will slow down on the transferring because what will
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happen is only seniors will leave people with enough credit
hours to transfer and graduate. Now that they're not giving
people eight years anymore. They just denied Louisville's basketball players.
We well know. We'll have to see what transpires. That's
the rule, Anthony, that slows down the madness that. I
don't care if the SEC leaves the NCAA. The academic
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standards have to stay because it is college. I'm with
Kirby Smart pay the players still want my Anne Griff
would have made a million out of made ten dollars,
but I still want that ten dollars. You don't understand.
I don't care what anybody says deserved it, earned it
I wanted. But they cannot drop the academic standards, which
should slow down all this movement because every school. Just
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ask anyone that's had their kids try to transfer from
one school to another, Anthony, they know what I'm talking about.
They know that the other school it's not accepting all
those credits. So guys, have a wonderful day. Yes, I
was truly gladiator. I was trying to grab carpet and
kiss it yesterday. You think I'm playing Asthmas Gwynn Blackbird,
(40:13):
she came off at plane said, I thought it was over.
It was just that bad God. Willie will be back tomorrow.
Love you a great job ATNY, Great job, Shannon. Talk
to y'all own Thursday. Bye bye,
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