2025-06-13 EAVES

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
E Sports Radio. Sorry for the technical difficulties. This is
Jerry Eaves and this is the Sports Radio. It is
June to thirteenth, twenty twenty five. It's Friday, June thirteenth,
Friday the thirteenth. Welcome back to the show. Sorry for that.
Sometimes these electronic devices don't work well. That's all that

(00:23):
I can say. My ear pods are not working correctly,
or we're not working correctly, So welcome back to the show.
We've got Rich behind the glass. Rick, how are you.
I'm doing good, Jerry great. We'll have Anthony and George
will be with us in a second. But let me
just get the news out of the way. Phone numbers
five zero, two, five, nine hundred. It is Sports Talk

(00:44):
seven ninety KRD. That was not I Heart's fault. That
was my fault.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Rick.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I could not get these ear pods to work properly,
so that falls on me. Anyway, welcome back to the show.
Let's introduce first and foremost Anthony Eves to the show. Anthony,
how are you.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Doing good?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Just just hustle back up the stairs. So I'm out
of breath now.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
There you go. Somebody had to save me that's all.
Somebody had to save me. I don't even want to
tell the other guy. He'll have nothing but jokes. Let's
bring his name is other guy? Bring you sometimes George Williams.
Sometimes other guy.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
How are you, hey, buddy out it budds it buds.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Right here, buds George, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Okay, I just wanted to verify that, mister Eaves, because
we were all waiting about a half hour for you
to come on the as so we only got a
few minutes. So let's get right into the show. Because
what were you trying to do? Put some of their
budds in your ear? Very technical, very technical.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
They're in my ears. I could get him to the
connect to the computer. George.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
That's not taking any stuff off your Jerry.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm not taking any stuff off you, George.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I'm not if you technically savvy, bro. I'm just saying
you're technically savy.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Technically savvy, George. I like, now you sound like Anthony.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Now you fell like Anthony.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
That's okay, technically savvy boy, George. I like that. Well, anyway,
welcome back, Hope. Everybody's had a tremendous week. It is Friday, George.
The week is blown by. Let me tell you what
we have. And a lot of people don't know this. Well,
you don't because you're wrong with us yesterday. But we're

(02:33):
gonna have the one and only Dwayne Casey calling in
the day about seven forty.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Five, and we're gonna talk to him a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
About about yes NBA Draft, not much about the NBA Draft.
This is the only issue you will He works for
the front office for the Pistons, so there are only
certain things that I can ask. We can talk about
the playoff games, George, and there are a few questions
he's given me that I can ask him about the draft,
but he cannot since he works for the giveaway information

(03:01):
that I'd like for him to give away, George, as
we both know. But anyway, we've got Dwayne as at
the back end of the show, so we do need
to get into this, George. Now we've got to start.
We're throwing at trade, Anthony. George. We've got big baseball games,
big baseball games at high school and college. So Anthony,

(03:22):
we're gonna start with you. Let everybody know what's transpiring
in high school in college baseball.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, of course, obviously we also know we always know
the college segment, there's tons of games going on. There's
gonna be a couple of tonight, a couple Saturday as well.
For that college side. Obviously playing out in Omaha. Louisville
does play the night at seven pm with the host
in Oregon State and in Arizonia and Coastal Carolina will
be kicking off the day at two pm as well.
The Saturday games, we'll be having Murray State take on

(03:50):
UCLA at two o'clock Eastern time, and then we'll also
have LSU versus Arkansas at seven o'clock as well. For
those college games that we have coming up today and tomorrow,
those are big ones going on. So we got two
Kentucky teams supporting seven representing twenty five percent. Oh that
great George for you astanding?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
How fam isn't that great George Murray and University of
Louisville right?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I think he brought up a point.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I'm gonna read this to you all. Andy brought this
up yesterday, and what a point. Listen to this, u all.
His name's Dan Skirker. He is the coach the Racers play. Well,
let me just give you the whole thing. During the
twenty three to twenty four academic year. According to the
information gathered by USA Today in conjunction with the partnership

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with the Knights Town College Athletic Database, that Murry spent
eight hundred and fifty eight thousand, one hundred and six
dollars on their entire baseball program. Let me say this
to you again. Eight hundred and fifty eight thousand, one
hundred and six dollars George, entire program, George. The Racers

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play in the stadium with a maximum capacity of eight hundred.
Head coach Dan Skirka cuts the grass, and Johnny reaganfield himself,
George himself. Now, when we're talking about the real college experience,
this is it. This is the real college experience right there, George.
It doesn't say what his salary is, but guys, his

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entire budget is eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So
I want everybody to understand here when everybody gets on
me about a little criticism on coach McDonald, great job
all of the World Series, I think six for Louisville,
but he makes twice as much as Murray State's entire budget.
Just want people to understand it's always not about the money. George,

(05:51):
we always say it's always about the money. Antony brought
that up yesterday. Here it is front page, front page
of the paper. Guys crempe, Jared, I think that's the
story of it all. Our Murray State reached College World
Series entire budgets eight hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars. So, George,
what do you think?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Oh, well, Jered, I just think he has a love
for the game, a passion for the game. And as
we know today that most of the time that that
kind of budget won't get you any word because you
can't get the big teams to play you because they
scharedule upset you, and the small team they can't really
travel that far because they budget won't allow it. But

(06:33):
I think it's fantastic in the time and this day
and time, when we're talking about how we play in
il players and coaches all this amount of money, it's
refreshing to see that the coach loves what he does
because he loves it for the love of the game.
And then also, Jered, where he lives, he can afford
to live pretty good on a four or five hundred
thousand dollars Sorry, so you know, I just think it's

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so amazing and how much these coaches want. And what
amazes me is we act like they are so outstanding,
but if they don't get the town, the players, they're
no better than anybody else.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
And this guy, you and George don four or five.
I bet you, I bet you he makes one fifty
George Mix. Listen to this. Murray State will face UCLA
with a baseball budget of four point one nine million
in game one. LSU has a budget of nine point
nine million, third largest budget in Division one Arkansas nine

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point one six million, fifth largest, George, some of the
teams that Murray State's competing against with an eight hundred
and fifty eight thousand dollars budget. So congratulations.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Truly, I really.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Want Murray State to win at George, I really do.
And that was a great point, Anthony, that you brought
up yesterday, and here it is in today's paper. Antony
brought it up yesterday that he cut his own grand George,
You've got a lot more out George. Cut the infield,
y outfield. George.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
We did live so long with Okay, no they don't
go finish. I got a couple of I said, we
have lived for long. We remember when a lot of
coaches would take that avenue, you know, Jay, and have
the players out there working with him.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
George. I told him yesterday when Anthony brought this up.
That at Herring University in nineteen ninety and of course
you know I was called everything. I was janitor, manager,
travel coordinator, assistant coach, recruiting coordinator. George. People have no
idea when you take lower level jobs, you do everything.

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After every game, every game, George, Coach Beard and I stayed,
swept the stadium, steps, got we were the janitors, got
all the pop coronarts, swept the floor before we left. George.
That's college. That's why I tell people I don't like
complaining from college coaches. I don't. I'm gonna bring coach
of Beard on next week and have him tell you

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that's that's college.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
You know what you you missed out though, Jered that
I think that makes make college so so fantastic. Fair back,
you lived in the dawn with the other students. You
got to know who your classmates was. You could walk
around class campus and a lot of people that you
got to meet and got to know. You know them
longer than you know your teammates, and you still got

(09:27):
relationships with them. You know, I think they're missing that
interaction with their fellow students on the campus. You know,
I don't believe that you're that big that all your
college students will lose their man if you walk around campus,
you know, without security. You know, I mean, I just
hate being doing where they got to go, stay in
and away from the students, get to know them.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yep, Wildcat Lodge, Danny Crumb Hall, everyone has them now,
George Carmous.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
But think about your relationship when you come out of
Miller Hall, George. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
You know in your practice now you say you missed
this point. People can come to our official practice, George,
as long as they an't make any noise. They watched
our practice, the real practice, George, George, not summertime. The
real practice practice was open. Things have changed. Let's get

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to our first call. Great point though yesterday with that
anything because it's in the front page of the Cure today,
wait to beat the paper, the sports radio.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Are you I'm laying my man? All right? Hey, good
morning gentlemen. Uh I hope Anthony's doing good.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Rick behind the glass doing great, Jerry Uh, well, I'm
not gonna say. And then the main man, George, it
is a delight. But Jerry had called about the Murray
Sade deal that this is just unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know, the equivalent of.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Them making this world Ferry Jerry is Bellerman making the
final four.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Mm hmmm and great analogy.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yes, that that is exactly what you're watching. Do you
know this coach makes less than one hundred thousand dollars
a year?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I knew he did. I knew he did. His total
budgets eight hundred and fifty thousand, travel, assistant coaches, Jersey's uniform,
food insurance, the whole nine yards without it.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
You know, you know we have we have a we
have assistant coaches at U of L combined that make
more money in that program takes in. Or that Murray
State is worse or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
The year.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh no, all of it, I guess, and I'm sure
all these schools are. Yes.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
I agree there not because letting now, but think about this.
Do we think he'll be still making that thing Storary
next year? Will he be at Maury State?

Speaker 5 (11:47):
No, no, sir, He'll be at another school next year. George.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
After this, I kind of knew that, but I wanted
y'all to see it.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah. No, he will not be at Murray State next year, but.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
In his back pocket, it's amazing, you know, congratulations to
them and U of L and the other teams had
made it out there, because that's very hard to do.
But uh, you know, coach McDonald has been squawking for
a while over there about things, and boy, it's hard
to uh, it's hard to hear that when you've been
losing three to four million dollars a year on your

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baseball team over there. And if the school would come
claim Jerry and George and Anthony and post that, put
that out to the Courier Journal like Murray State did,
you will see where they're losing three to four million
dollars every single year over there on baseball.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's a fact on the lot. No, I mean, that's
just a fact. But both teams planning wish them both success.
But the story is Murray's State. That's the story. Eight
hundred and fifty six thousand dollars is this. I'll they
win it, Drew. Yes, George dan Skirtt will not be
there next year. He will not. He will move forward.

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But the experience that he's gained from this level. That's
the only thing I tell people when guys get high
level assistant jobs, they have no idea what it really
is to coach clean stadiums, George wassh jerseys, all the
things that you have to do that you don't touch it. Believe,
the things I did at Louisville when I was coach

(13:22):
Crumbs assistant was absolutely not the same as what I
did at Howard University for Coach Pear, completely different. You
have to learn the nuts and boats. So guys, we're
at seven twenty one. We got to get the breakers.
We've got d Dwayne Casey.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Later on we get that thing to get Thanks BLA,
have a great wee get blinded.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Great job, Anthony. When we come back, of course, Antonio
Brown's back in the news, we'll talk to you in
a minute. Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio. June thirteenth,
twenty twenty five. It's Friday. Yes, it is a seven
twenty four. If you need to be able to work
at eight, you need to start moving toward the job,
which means be in your car community now. Welcome back,

(14:03):
George Williams. Anthony. Eve's on the line. With the guys
who've got another caller and we're gonna take him, but
really quickly. George, have you heard about the news about
Antonio Brown attempted murder?

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yes, sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Give me your opinion if if you have one, you
may not. If you do give it to me, I'll
get you an anthony. We'll go from there. I'll give
your mind.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Well, well, Jerry, we've seen this building up for a
long time, you know what I mean, And I always
call it superstar syndrome. You know, we've given these young men,
uh put them on a pedestal since they've been a
young age, told them what they can do. They're untouchable,
and a lot of these young men believe that. You know,

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we've seen that Antine Brown has had emotional problems ever
since you have Pittsburgh. I mean, you know, with all
the opportunities you get like that, and you still can't
adjust to for people, and you always think it's the
other guy. You know, that's psychological. Jerry, and I think
he really has a lot he's going on with him.
And I think that people could have wrap their arms

(15:04):
around him a long time ago and had some evaluations done,
but seemed like he didn't want to get it done.
Now did the people around him want to get it done?
They just wanted to see how good an athletely good,
how fast he could run, and how good he could
catch that ball and everything else, or just take care
of himself. And we've seen how it just spiraled out
of hand. And that's when I think about it.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Where'd you think Anthony had multiple issues in Antonio Brown?

Speaker 6 (15:31):
Yeah, we don't know what we don't We don't know
what's going on upstairs with Antonio Brown.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
He's kind of been a messing off the walls probably
over the last six or seven years. I think it's
just slowly and drastically just kind of getting worse and
worse by the month. You know, I hate to say
it because he was an incredible football player, but I
think he needs some real psychological help because I just
don't think everything's clicking up there. I don't know the
people he's surrounding himself with or I'm saying them seriously,

(15:58):
I don't know who the people he surround himself with
or is just letting them do these things without any
like repercussions or consequences really just kind of does it
and it kind of happens, and they kind of sweeping
on the rug and he does something else, and it's
just a reoccurring event, and it's getting to the point
to where now it's it's he's in a situation where
this one can't get swept.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Under the rug.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Now you're putting yourself in a real situation where your
life is about to change drastically. Attempted murder regards what
the case is. Even if you put on probation, community.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Service, jail time.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Who knows it's something that will mentally change you as
a person. It changes anyone. Anyone who's ever been in that.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Situation before knows that your heart falls out of your
body when you hear news like that, or you're getting
phone calls or people are out looking for you and
you know you're running around driving in your car and
you get an ESPN alert that the police are looking
for you.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Always, well, guys, we always try to get both sides.
I'm going to read to you from his ex account.
I agree with you all. I was jumped by multi individuals, George.
That goes back to you. He's always jumped who tried
to steal my jewelry? Second thing, Antonio, you haven't worked
for three years and you're in financial trouble. He is,

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you need to sell your jewelry, Anthony. You're correct. People
around him need to tell him you need to have
sold that a long time ago, young man. But again,
George anton these things don't seem to sink in and
cause physical harm to me, he wrote in his ex account.
Contrary to some videos circulating, police temporarily detained me until

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they received my side of the story, then released me.
I went home that night and was not arrested. Hold
up my continuity to just cut up. I will be
taking my legal counsel and attorneys on pressing charges on
the individuals that jumped to me. According to the warrant,
witnesses told police officers that Brown was a shooter, and
two shell cases were found at the scene. Brown was

(17:54):
unarmed at the time he was detained, but the men
he allegedly punched during the altar told police that Brown
began to run toward him with firearms after the fight
had already been broken up, and shot at him twice. So, guys,
all I can say is this, George, You're right, Antonio,
sell the jewelry. You need the money. Period, point blank.

(18:18):
Anthony Hundson, correct, incarceration.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Does no good. Go ahead, George, Yeah, you know, And
they said, you know, Jered, the people that you run with,
a lot of these guys especially have these emotional and problems.
They surround themselves with a lot of yes people. Jared,
whatever you do is okay with us, and you are
the man.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
That's probably one of his problems been with his career,
that he's always surrounded people with those kinds of people,
and they've always pumped him up. And now, Jared, they
may be ending his career because nobody was standing around
him to tell him the right thing to do.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
They said, careers over, George may be ending his days
as he free before waiting exactly. So, guys, let's get
our caller on before we get to our next break.
Tryst on task ac, Welcome back. How are you?

Speaker 7 (19:16):
I'm good, how you guys feeling? Thank you so much
for think of my call brother, Rick. I hope you
are the league mister Eves who cares about Antonio Brown
And well, you guys are so this story would never end, okay,
So drop the subject. You've been talking about this clown

(19:36):
for the last two years. Yes, stop with this, brother. Well,
then Brother Anthony, explain what's happening. So, according to a
c the tribal chief of the show, I call him
a clown. So you're gonna fix yourself. You cannot fix you.
You can have problems that problem.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
What finds out? What do you say when find out
that there may be a possibility that boy's got CTE?
What will you say then ac.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
NFL's problem. Well, mister Ives, you don't want to go
deeper into conversation, trust me, you don't want that. A
lot of things at O's trust me. It's not even
good for a radio. The reason it's not good for
a radio because the government is not gonna like it.
Trust me, I know in and out. All right. Please,
I'm telling you very nicely. Do not do not underestimate me. Okay,

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but I love what you want that motivates me.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
You did George get you out of prison or not?
George said he raised the money.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
I think we did. Of course, that's a brother who
got me out of the present. Baby, by mister, let
me tell you something, all right, let me tell you something.
You and I you know, I spoke with brother Anthony
about this privately in his car dealership. You and I
have got to do a FaceTime.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Man.

Speaker 7 (20:54):
I'm looking forward to it, you and I. There's so
many things done for you.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I'm frightened.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Absolutely. How about this?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Would well?

Speaker 7 (21:06):
How about well, how about this? Since brother Anthony is
so good with technology, we can do a zoom call.
I mean, send me the invitation and we can work
something up. Hey, I don't mind taking a day off
one work. I'll say, hey, Bob, I'm sorry, I'm feeling sick.
You know, I'm thinking today face time with my my
mister Jerve. You'll be mister his family all again.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Brother.

Speaker 7 (21:29):
I don't care about Shannon. I really don't care.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
We're going to do that. We want you to go to.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Don't worry about it. They're gonna pay me anyway. I'll
milk them a story about it.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
George, you know what Red Fox would say? That sounds
like a drug.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
Probably I am a drugs dealer. Probably, I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Know, George, George get that sounds like a drug dealer,
and he says you have to go to That sounds.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Like, George, we.

Speaker 8 (22:10):
Don't and you can.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
I appreciate it. But let's not get everything distracted, Okay,
let me. Let me ask you a question. So what
are you doing for regular callers so we could get paid?
I mean, I know we talked about this two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
You can do you can do absolutely anything, not absolutely.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
No.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Let me let me tell you something, let me know something.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Do this.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Pay you when you get fine to pay you, I
swear i'll pay you.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
Can say something to you? Can I can I say
something to you p SDN. It's horrible and they're not
paying the callers, and the callers are so stupid and
distract said because they bring into every garbage espn C.
You think mister is gonna pay, No, it's not he.
I should listen to the segment when I battled with it.

(23:10):
He trusts the starter. He trusts the starter his way.
I said, no, no, no answer my question. When I
keep pressing him, guess what he does. He ends my
call because he knows. He doesn't want to make He
doesn't want to mess with me. But that's his problem
because he told me, you gotta work on your game. Boy,
give me a big mistake. But it works for me.
So mister, but hey, let me tell you, I'm gonna

(23:33):
do something. If I could get your boss's phone number.
Trust me, Wigan and have something. But he gotta do
something for you and as well. So I'm not gonna
waste too much of your I'm not gonna waste too
much of your time. I promised what I'm gonna say,

(23:55):
but I'll you to let me. Let me hang up
by saying this. Mister her Blendon and mister Ron, please
join the fight with me if you want to get paid,
because we can work together. And trust me, it's AC
doesn't get it done, then it's my fault and I
would make sure this job gets done. We deserve to

(24:16):
get paid as a caller. Thank you so much for
taking my brother. Rick don't got paid, Billy don't get paid.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Holla. Bye see halla E Sports Radio, George, we got
to go to break. Jesus, Anthony, we talk left to
the break. Welcome back to the Sports Radio Anthony and George.
Hopefully coach Casey'll be calling in in about two minutes,

(24:43):
so we've got a very very short segment. The only
thing I've got to say is, George, your opinion on
the NBA playoffs. You haven't been on with us. What
do you think? Two to one Indiana?

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yeah, I think it's been a very exciting playoff game.
I've loved it all the way through. And one of
the things I said, I said, I thought that the
point guards would decide the series, but I didn't realize
that DOWNA was bringing a point guard off the bench,
it might be a more detrimental than anybody that we saw.
And so I've been enjoying it. Yeah, I really have.
I thought it's been one of the better series that

(25:16):
we've seen in a long time. And I really like
the ball movement. I like the pace of the game.
I like the shooting. I like how they being diverse
in taking jump shots and driving and dunking it. I mean,
it's just really made it an exciting game. And the
defense being played. I I have really enjoyed it. You,
I ain't gonna tell a lite.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Agree Answery, What do you think Game four tonight?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's gonna be a tough one, obvious. All can say
is for the Pacers, this is their opportunity to take
advantage of that home court while they have it to
go up three to one in the series going on
the road back to OKCE.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
In Game five.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
If they win Game four to nights take a little
pressure off the shoulders. If they go back to OKAC
and it's a tie to two series, I think I
think Indiana still has the advantage night being at home,
came off that big momentum win, and I think they've
got a defensive scheme that they have figured out Okay
see a little bit better than OKCE has figured out Indiana.

(26:17):
They didn't do the best job in SGA last night,
but I give them credit for one thing. They did
wear him down to where he was dead with about
eight and a half minutes to go in.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
The fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
He scored and still got to his spots, but defensively
he was such a non factor because he was tired.
He had to work and overdribble for every shot he
got to. They wore him down in the shot clock.
They put multiple defenders in different bodies and sizes on
him to kind of make it difficult and give him
different looks than just going against the same defender all game,
which I do like from the coaching of Rick Carlisle.

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That's a big differential right now, and I hate to
say it, chet Holmgrim has got to be one of
the worst players.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
In the NBA Finals right now.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I've seen in a while for him to.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Be one of their main guys.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
He is so bad that he's putting in situations where
it's hard to with him in the games. And they
can't play Hartenstein as much because Hartenstein is not a
scoring threat at all, So they're playing out there with
only with pretty much no big Myles Turner will still
go out there and get rebounds, will put Thomas Brian
in sometimes of stressed before. They have a couple of
different options that the Pacers like to look for the
big man in different styles of offense that they want

(27:18):
to run. But right now, Hartenstein I still think is
their best reading founder, their best passer.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Great, we've got to get to break. We got Coach
Casey on the line. Guys, We're gonna go to break
when we come back. We come back with the one
and only Dwayne Casey, Union County, University of Kentucky graduate
and one of the best head coaches in the NBA
the last twenty years. We'll talk y'all after the break.
Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio at seven forty five.

(27:46):
We have the one and only Dwayne Casey. He's one
of the only true people that I've spoke to that
I know. Twenty eighteen NBA Coach of the Year, Dwayne,
Welcome to the Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
How are you thank you, Jave. Great to be here
and doing well and join these finals.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Great to have you back.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Oh, without a doubt, great to have you back. Of
course I told everyone at the beginning of the show
in yesterday that you worked with frontoffs of the Pistons,
been the head coach of three NBA franchises, been Coach
of the Year in twenty eighteen, in great accolades. Your
opinion about this year's NBA and start with Tom Timbodeau.
What are you think is going on with the league?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Well, it's one of those things where it was unfortunately
a profession Jerry that you know, you it's one of
the hazards of our profession. You know you they say
that when you signed the contract, the only thing you
didn't put on there is the end date. You know.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
It's very hue uh.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know Pops out there that's going to be with
one franchise. He and x Boster has had a lot
of a long, long longevity in their situation. But you know, again,
kids did a great job. Felt like in New York,
I'm sure there's a lot behind the scenes that came
about that we don't know about. But I've known Tibbs

(29:09):
for a long time, coach against him and all of
his stops. He's you know in Chicago, Minnesota, and now
in New York. Uh so, and he's done a good
job everywhere he's been. He took his team to the
conference finals, uh and one shot away from you know,
making a different series. So uh, it's very for our profession,

(29:31):
you know, being a coach and our profession for a
long time. It's unfortunate for our profession for a guy
like Tis who's done a great job. Uh he they
beat us in the first round and an exciting series.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Hartl School ay right.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
It's one of those things. This experience for our team
this year is hard to find. I mean, you can't
put a price on the experience that that we had Jerry.
As far as for Kate Cunningham to get those you know,
six games in the playoffs, that's really going to pay
dividends for our entire team down the road. Because you
can talk about the playoffs, you can prepare for it,

(30:15):
you can watch video, but until you out there on
the court in that atmosphere, as you know, Jerry being
a former player. Uh, it's one of those things that
it's a different feel, a different atmosphere. And then this
year I've really felt like the officials call the playoffs
a lot more. Uh, we're more liberal with letting guys play, Uh,

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you know, letting letting it be more physical, bumping, grinding.
So that aspect of it also what was a different
difference for every team in the league, and that gave us,
you know a lot of experience watching our guys doing
the individual workouts.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Now.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Uh, they have a different pep in their step right
now after going through what they did in the playoff.
So and then New York went on to beat Boston,
you know, went on to move up, and then they
ran into a tough, tough Indiana team. So one of
those things that's unfortunate. But that's the great thing about

(31:14):
our league. You know, teams like Indiana come along and
have a great, great season.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
No they have. You're talking about the Pacers and the playoffs,
and of course your Pistons did have a tremendous year
forty four and thirty eight. It looked like they were
going to defeat the Knicks. There were a few tough
calls that you did not speak about, but great learning experience.
Great learning experience for your players. And I'm really looking
forward to watching the Detroit Pistons next year. Let's move

(31:44):
into the playoffs. We have now got the Indiana Pacers,
which the college temple, a full court press, picking you up,
working you ninety four feet, wearing down, using the bench.
Have you seen a team use their bench this much?
This steep into the NBA playoffs as the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Jerry's the fortunate thing. I worked for Rick as an
assistant coach for three years. Won the championship in twenty eleven,
so I witnessed it first hand how he utilies it.
And Rick has a sixth sense, you know. And I
hate to go back in time. In twenty eleven, we
had JJ Burrea who helped us win a series. He
helped us beat the Lakers. Paigestarkivich didn't play for US,

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so the last thirty games of the season came in
coach Jackson. Phil Jackson played zone against US in two
thousand and eleven when he was with the Lakers. Paige
Stwakovich came in and won a game versus their zone.
So and he was like the you know, eleventh of
twelfth man on our bench. So Rick has a sixth

(32:48):
sense and it's the same thing he's doing in Indiana
now of plucking a guy off the bench at the
right time, in the right situation. Who really, you said,
why is he putting them in the game. And then
this young man comes up and really has an impact
on winning. I thought Obi Topping the other night had
an impact on winning. TJ won the first half for

(33:11):
him the other night, and he came in with three
freight from the field and four for four you know
from the free throw line, and did a great job,
had two big steals of snapping back on the bounce
plate the bounce, so his hustle plays made an impact.
Young man Ben Johnson uh came I'm sorry. Ben Shephard

(33:32):
came in and did a great job off the defensively,
like you said, picking picking up full court. And I
really thought they wore Sga down by picking him up
full court. But again it's the right personnel. And then
we haven't spoken about Ben Benedict Mathern. Ben Matherns, Oh yeah,

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so every every button he pushed coming off the bench
really came in and did a great job for them,
and but Rick is he has a history of doing that,
and he did that with Dallas when we won the
championship in twenty eleven, and he's doing that in front
of my eyes right now against a great, great, OKAYC team.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
My son's got a question, Anthony, He's on with me.
He's got a question for you, Anthony as coach, k
hey you more?

Speaker 3 (34:24):
How you doing, missus Casey?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (34:26):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Anthony?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I'm doing fantastic.

Speaker 8 (34:29):
So one of the questions is I kind of had
in my mind, even back in your coaching era, in
a situation like this, He've kind of seen how the
Pacers matchup and guard SGA. If you were game playing
for SGA, how would you try to guard and contain him.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
In the finals.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
That is a great question. One. I think he's a
young man that you can't give different looks to. You know,
I've watched him I was coaching in Toronto, watched him
grow up as a young kid. He's a smart basketball player,
high IQ. So if you give him the same look
every time, and that's what what Indiana's doing a great
job of right now, You've got to give him different

(35:04):
body sizes. You have to put a nim hard on him.
You have to put a shepherd on him, you have
to put a bigger body on him on you know,
as far as coming down the floor. And then once
he gets in that half court area, you know he
you know, he's going to use his shoulder to bump
you off, and you got to get a rhythm for that.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
And then too, another thing I think is very effective
and with now, if you notice every time he goes
to that left side and turns his back, Indiana's running
a second defender to him to double team him. And
that's something that that that throws him off. Because really, Anthony,
that's the basically the only thing you can do to

(35:44):
slow him down. You're not going to stop a young
man as Sga. My philosophy would be, you know, let's
make him work for every point he gets. I thought
he wore down as the game went on. He started
walking around. I think I thought Indiana had a couple
of hustle plays because he was walking back into to play.
Indiana gets the offensive rebound. So that's one thing you
hope to do against a great player at like SGA.

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He had twenty or twenty four points or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
And the script player you're Marke dan All and you're
coaching SGA and all right, all right, Dwayne, I was
losing you. Okay, can you hear me everyone here? Okay, great, yeah,
I hear you now. Yes, I want to flip the script.

(36:31):
You are the head coach of OKAC. Mark Danat has
the young man bringing them on ninety four feet under pressure,
planning forty plus minutes a game, asking him to beat
people seventy feet and score it. What would you do
to be more Michael Jordan more Kobe Bryant like Phil
Jackson did, receiving the ball in the elbow on the

(36:52):
big box at the top of the key with a
live dribble. What would you do to get the ball
out of his hands, to let him receive it where
he could be the assassin that is, and not the
workhorse that they've made.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well again, that's the hard thing about the the playoffs, Jerry,
is you know that got them how many games? If
they won sixty eight games? I know they're in a
word out situation. You have to find ways to get
him rest. You have longer timeouts, you have you know,
ABC timeouts or very very long at this time of

(37:26):
year in the playoffs, so you have to depend on that.
And then too you have to find another initial ball
handler you got and that's where they've struggled, and that's
I would say, if they had one weakness in their roster,
they don't have another true, true backup point guard. Now
you can tread water with a guy like Jalen Williams

(37:48):
can bring it up, Cason Wallace can bring it up,
and tread Water Isaiah Joe alex Caruso can bring it up.
But for the most part, Shay Alexander and there's the
main initiator on the offense. But somehow, some way, you've
got to help help someone else to bring it up.
Let him run down to the corner of rest and

(38:10):
then flash to the elbow, as you said, a flash
up on the weak side to get it because they
are draped all over that young man. And like you said,
it's a fifteen round bout and by the twelve thirteen,
fourteenth round he is dragging I don't care who you are,
and doing as much work exactly as high as usage
rate that he as he has. They struggle, so they've

(38:33):
got to find a secondary ball handle to bring it
up and give him a rest to make him more effective,
especially in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Dwayne, I appreciate you like always, Thank you for calling
in the Esports Radio. We'll talk next week and make
sure you're watching the US Open because I am Dwayne
love you. Take care Esports Radio. We're out, have a
great weekend. Talk to you on Monday. God willing, Bye
bye