2025-08-19 EAVES

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to the show. Yes, it is Tuesday, August
the seventeenth, twenty twenty five. I just don't even wanna
get into it. I'm gonna let my son get into it.
But this is the sports radio and the phone number
is five year O two five seven one seventy nine
hundred Sports Talk seven ninety KRD. Of course, we've got

(00:24):
Shannon behind the glass.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We've got my younger son, Anthony on the other line. Eh, well,
how are you doing this morning?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right. We've been
up for a while to day the least, but we're good.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We're good. Well, are you going to express what happened?
Or are we gonna let it slide? You just tell me,
I'll push on.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
It'll let's lie today.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay, I got ya. I'm with you hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Anyway, we'll talk about it another time. But we're having
I'm having technical difficulties, so you all will know I
cannot get on my instrument. I had to call in
just like everyone else. Shannon's taking care of us to
the best of his ability, and we're gonna let this
thing rock and roll. So first and foremost, before we
go anywhere, at seven point fifteen, I will have the

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one and only Eric Crawford calling in to Eve Sports Radio.
Of course, he's had a lot to say about what's
going on with the University of Louisvie twenty thirteen Answer
Championship banner and why it should be given back by
the NCAA. So we're gonna let him speak about that,
and I'm gonna ask him some pertinent questions and see
if he can answer some of my questions because I

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still have an answered question. So I'm really looking forward
to that, that debate. We're gonna have a debate right
there he is now, as everyone knows, he's run off
my one and only Rick Bostage, who has retired to
Eric's flying solo now. So we will have Eric Crawford
from WDRB on EVE Sports Radio with us today. Looking

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forward to that, and Anthony, because you've got a lot
to do, you've got to get out early. I'm gonna
throw it to you to give me a few of
the national news tidbits, and then after that at the
break roll Shannon, whenever Eric Crawford calls in, we'll go
to break and we'll come back. I have Eric Crawford
from wd RB and I win one on one on.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
The sports radio. So An, what have you got? What's
going on new?

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
We got a lot going on national news. I know.
I think we sat outside the driveway yes stay and
talked about mate our Navy, talking about for u of
L making college football playoffs in the final four this year.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Grant Cock his name, call him out by name, Grant
as the drowing of us too much. He's crazy, He's
a funny guy. So Anthony expressed what Grant was telling
us yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, we went through a breakdown of u of L
schedule and obviously, honestly U OFFL final four in basketball.
I have more hopes on than I say football. And
I'm not knocking football already. It's just there's a lot
of variables have to go correct for us to make
the college football players.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
One.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
The ACC has to do a little bit better this
year than they did last year.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
And the major.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Team Florida State had it down here last year. We
all know that Clemson was okay, but they weren't the
Clemson that we've known about for the last ten years. Maybe,
but they're coming back in a bounce back and they're
coming in preseason number four s and u's preseason sixteen
in Miami is preseason number ten. So there are three

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teams ranking the top twenty five. U of those just
right outside that custom line, sitting at twenty eight receiving votes.
I think they'll be in there after a couple of weeks.
But I talked about it yesterday too. Everyone says we
got a cupcake schedule, and I said, don't be surprised
if j Madison you'll possibly beat Louisville or given problems,
dam U has been in the top twenty five multiple
times over the last five to seven years.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
They're not a slack time agree with that. I agree.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I still take the Cardinals, but yes, it could be
a competitive game.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yes, no, I think the Cardinals will win, but it
can be one of those games where if they don't
come out there and play and jam Us having is
you know, all the lights are clicking at the same time,
they could come in there and win that game. It's
the same. But it's the same boat for Toledo when
they go to Kentucky in Week one. I know Kentucky's
only favored by a touchdown, but we saw what Toledo
did in Mississippi State last year. There's many major teams
that have beat a cc SEC and Big ten teams.

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We've seen it all across the board. It happens all
the time. And the only thing is, I'm not so
worried as much about the game U game. It's about
later on the season when Neuiville always has that one
flop game when we lose to the worst team of
the conference. We lost to cayl last year, which was horrible, yes,
and then you know, and we played Cal again, we
play them at home, and there's just always that team
that just gives us issues. Now, even if we run

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the table and we beat Miami, I say, and that's
in Week six at Miami, which is already gonna be
tough as it is on the road. That puts us
in a good position to obviously make a run the
push to be in the College Football Playoffs and possibly
win the ACC or even getting the a SEC championship.
The only thing is the last two out of the
three weeks, as difficult as it is, we got Clemson
at home, and then we have Smut on the road,

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and then we play Kentucky at home as well, and
Kentucky always plays us well, except for last year. Last
year was a little bit a little bit different. But
you know, this year, we never know what to expect.
It's new year, new players, so that you come out there,
even if they're having a bad season, they get come
up there and beat U of L. We've seen it before,
We've all seen it hand. So there's just a high
possibility of U of L coming in with three losses

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at the end of the year, honestly, which would kill
their chances of making the acc AC playoffs and would
kill their chances of making.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
The College FOOTBA playoffs.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
That's reason I'm just not so sold long because there's
three losses that they will genuinely lose. There's two of
them that I think they'll generally lose, and Clympson I'm
just not sure about. They're the only time will tell
in that season. And just I like clubs for I'm
just not sold on Milling Moss. I just I just
haven't seen enough.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Okay, Well, I agree, No, I agree with that. Here's
to do Anthony, I've flip flopped it. I don't think basketball.
I think they'll have a little more to do. I'd
like to see him win a tournament game under coach
Chelsea before I said final four, let's just crawl before
we walk. But football, I keep telling people, I'm not
saying that Louisville's great. They're good teams done with coach

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Brom's done a fantastic job in the first two years
he has. I'm just saying that if you pull it upset.
I have Louisville losing to Miami week six. But if
we want to pull the one upset, which we have
beat Miami before, I just want people to understand that
at Miami now, yes, they're better now, but again, this

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is not like the Miami of Oh Jimmy Johnson. They're
trying to get their stuff together, but they're not polidified.
They're not Alabama, they're not Georgia in my opinion, they're
not LSU in my opinion, They're just not. So I
say possibility. If Louisville was able to pull it off Anthony,
they could go into the Clemson game nine to zero,

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which would put them in the top ten, which would
give them relevancy, even though yes, they would have only
beat one top twenty team. I agree with everyone. I'm
not saying they're good I'm just saying that their schedule
is favorable to the last three games, and then the
last three games of the season will be a challenge.
Clemson will be a challenge at home. SMU will be
a challenge. On the road in Kentucky will be a challenge,

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and that always is it's a rival game, there will
be a challenge. After last year's blowout, Kentucky's players will
play harder. So that's why I'm saying Louisville has a
chance until they get to the last three games. Then
we'll find out what they're made of. It's like mash Retavis.
You'll get to find what it's made of if the
blender worked or not those last three games. So we'll

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just have to wait and see it. With the basketball side,
I like the talent that I've seen, But Anthony, I
don't want everyone throwing all kinds of pressure on coach Kelsey.
Let's let coach Kelsey in Louisville win a tournament game first.
Let's let them get through the region ones before we
start throwing Grant Cox's final for pressure upon them. Let

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them just continue growing, continue doing a good job. But
that's just the bottom line. I want to say so.
My opinion, I flipped it. Williable football because of the schedule,
has an opportunity more than I think than Louisville basketball
because in the tournament, Anthony, it's just hard to win
an advance, it's hard to win in advance. So I'm

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with that, whether or national news you had before mister
Crawford calls in, we should be calling in.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Too well, of course, And obviously we can't get we
can't forget about. I'm not gonna slip by. We do
got some fun stuff coming up this weekend. Obviously, we
know we got these high school games coming up.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
We got a lot of teams come up.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
We see, you know, we checked in the paper actually
yesterday showing out some of the rankings that they have
for different classes in the district's going on.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
There's some teams up there.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Manuals number one right now with the tie at Saint
X in the class six eight District three, which is funny.
Actually they have made and they have male in the
six eight district four at one. They got dout in
the six eight district five at two, right behind Trinity
at one, Eastern his third, Oldham Counties and four.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Look here, I'm gonna say it once on the spot.
Four season starts. Don't sleep on the Bruins now. I
don't sleep on last year.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was last year.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Okay, hey, that might goes down.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
It was a rebuild year.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'm coming back.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I agree Trinity three in a row, and Trinity and
Cal Christian Academy go three in a row. I just boy,
that's hard to do.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
If I had to pick one, I would say Trinity.
A lot of players back at the quarterback back, I
would say Trinity as the sleeper for me. I think
Mayle is gonna want to bounce back after that early
exit last year. Coach Woof's back. I think Mail would
be the team Anthony that is the dark horse people
that will kind of skip on them. Yes, they've got
major injury at the running back position, but I like Mail,

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So I've had to wait and see what I am
looking forward to. We've got Manuel Central, Mail at Butler,
Owensboro at Saint Xavier, Pleasure Ridge Park at Trinity that's
attract me. Pikeville at Cal. Cal's very good going for
three in a row. We've got fern Creek against Seneca.

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I got people who went to fern Creek Anthony. So
I got to give Fern Creek a shout out, and
of course let than Anthony get valid. So that's what
we've got and we're gonna get to break. Aeric Crawford
should be calling, so Shannon let me know when he is.
We're gonna take our first break. This is the sports
radio phone numbers five zero two, five seven one seventy
nine hundred. Welcome back to Eve Sports Radio. Excuse me,

(10:55):
it's seven twenty phone numbers five zero two, five seven
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Of course, we've got the one and only. He used
to work with my mentor, Dvostage. He ran Rick off.
I got to bring Eric Crawford on. He's singular. Now

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it's not the two of them. I used to get
to fight with both of them. We rode to India
Chicago together for the NBA pre draft before. I want
to bring all the one and only wealth of knowledge,
Eric Crawford from WDRB. Eric, welcome to the show. Why
did you Why did you run Rick off?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Eric? That's my first complaint. I wish, I wish he
was still here. He could share the loads. He could
share the load and share the blamee exactly. Eric Rick
Bosage is a brother from a different mother from me.
We go way, I mean all the way back to
playing in the NBA. Isn't that crazy. That's how far
Rick and I go back coaching in the NBA. So

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Rick's a fantastic guy. I'm happy for you. I'm not
going to get into what happened, you know, but I'm
not going to talk about that. I just want him
to recover quickly. But that's all. Yeah, boy, But buddy,
he's the best person I know, one of the best
people I know. Absolutely, Eric, You've.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Kind of stirred up the airwaves and I was reading
your article like always, I'm like that, Eric Crawlford, Sex
lives and Championships in the Apocracy and Louisville's Lost title.
That's your title. I just want to throw it out
to you. A lot of people may not have been

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on the internet, so I want you to explain to
them your article and your stance, and then I'm going
to start to grill you with some of my questions.
I would like to hear your answer. So I first
want you just to give you one a synopsis. Take
your time and explain to them what your article is about.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, what happened. I think it kind of happened before
I wrote my article, but that was all last week.
But that's when the Michigan ruling came down. Uh, Michigan
sounds like some of some violations. Uh, you know, the
whole science stealing scandal, and the NCAA put forth its findings.

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It find them a lot of money. Uh, you know,
took some action against the coaches who were involved in it.
But at the same time, there were three college football
playoff runs that it didn't touch. And while it's a
different deal than what happened at louill it stirred up
all this talk. So I was just kind of writing
off of that, and Uh, my thing isn't so much

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comparing what happened at Little what happened in Michigan, but
comparing what happened at Litville to some other schools that had,
uh sexual misconduct and you know, different treatment that there's been.
Louis Louilla a national championship and uh, and my my
thing is the n c doua A every time it
does something like that, weakens itself further, and at some

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point my question was, was a little make a move
to try and restore its championship. Okay, I don't mean
I don't think the school is going to do that,
but that's certainly going to be the rallying cry that
if it pulled its fan base, it would probably it
would probably say make a move and try and do something,

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try to apply pressure. I read, I don't know. I
don't know if they got a legal you know that.
That's a whole discussion I have. Yeah, But that's so
that's the crux of the column. Gotch.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I just wanted people to know just so that because
you did a great job. You went into talking about
Penn State Jerry Sandusky with the molesting over a fifteen
of young children over a fifteen year period in the
locker room, sixty million dollars was overturned with Penn State
coach Paterno got his victories back, got two big ten
championships back. You went into in detail the Baylor scandal,

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the sexual assault, convicted rape. You went into that. You
also spoke about the Michigan State doctor Larry Nasser. We
all know in the sexual abuse of three hundred gymnasts
over two decades. So I just wanted people to understand
that if you go online and read Eric's article, he
did get detail into some of these things.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
So yeah, and the point of that then, yeah, and
just the reason for that is that in each case,
and even in other cases, even in the academic fraud
case North Carolina, the NCAA found that those events were
out of its jurisdiction. That that's that stuff that is

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not covered by us. We're not gonna we're not gonna
touch it.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
So that's what that.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm not comparing, you know, the rape and all that
other but but but in the end, it is a
sexual These are events of a sexual assault nature that
that rise above just whatever at common sports events. And
they didn't want to touch so that it's where they stood.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay, Now here's my question for you. Yes, you know,
I've got some pertinent questions. First, sure is that when
you're looking at the NCAA and their ruling, I think
a lot I've got well, I've been doing this a
long time like you, but I've got friends that are
on the committee of the NCAA infraction and when the
UFO case came out, there were people that I know

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directly that said people were running from it. They didn't
want to touch the case. Okay, And one of the
reasons that for the Louisville fan base to understand is
that in a lot of these cases, I mean, let's
go to Jerry Sandusky first, and the molesting of the
young kids hideous. We all know, I mean, without a doubt,
my goodness, nothing worse. But it did not affect the

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players on the field. So when the NCAA reversed its
course with pressure put by Penn State because that they said,
it did not affect the players, It did not induce
players to come, it didn't help players perform better. So
why were you punishing players for the behavior of a

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coach even though yes, the head coach did know their
Paterno did Your Paterno did know, but they they changed
their stance and said they wouldn't because they didn't find
any malpractice with the current players. Do you agree with
that stance there? With that statement, I do.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Accept that the players benefit, you know, the players you know,
benefited from everything Joe Paterno did. So that's you know,
he's he's the coach there, he's broken the rule. Then
there were players who went to coaches and complained or
went to others, but there were also players who did not.

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So yeah, you're putting some players in a situation, you know.
But in general, the NCAA does not does not penalize
players for acts of comb of omission. I coaches, if
a player doesn't report something, they're not going to be
found guilty of not reporting it because they understand the situation.

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But yeah, I would, I would generally, I would generally
agree with that that although there were I don't know
the specifics of every of every person of us, because
there were some players involved and in some of Sandusky's
some of his activities too, But they were victims. They weren't.

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They were victims exactly exactly. That's why I was.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Thinking that they overturned, in my opinion, because they're saying
that the team did not benefit as for execution in
winning games. So that's why they overturned that. But it
was severe.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
If you remember, sixty million dollars, and this was sweat.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
It was a big teen years ago.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Big Pilton fifty some wins, two Big Ten championships, uh
and and the big thing they wanted back was the
you know, wor the championships and the wins, so the
paternal could be the winningest football coach, and the NC
double eventually eventually did that. But and I also, if
you'll remember, n CFA kind of rushed itself on that

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and that was also a big reason that they overturned it.
They didn't go through their usual process. They really rushed
out with those rulings a special but because so it
was well, I mean it was. It was like they
said with Louisville, it was and that and more than anything.
If if a group like NC double A doesn't follow

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its own process and its own uh you know, then
then it's really legally liable. And I think I think
that also played into it. Okay, I do agree.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
So that was the first one with the Penn State.
But absolutely we did not see where a player, in
my opinion, benefited, And we did have players that did
go and did speak about it, which is a reflection
of their integrity. They did try to step forward, but
still I don't think that affected but they would consider
the play on the field or the court. Let's move

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to the Baylor situation and the sexual assault convicted Ray
players were suspended at Baylor again, they're saying that as
for the team, there was not. When you have players
that are playing that are ineligible, then they take games away.
We know it happened with Syracuse and Jim Beehive. I

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mean when you play in eligible players, they take games
away in victories. Same thing if you remember UCLA, I
want people to go back. I know I'm owed and
saw you Eric nineteen eighty when we defeated UCLA. They
were taken down from second place because of inducements to
players that helped them reach the final game. So UCLA's

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taken off. I want your opinion.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
If UCLA would beat us in nineteen eighty, do you
think they would have taken the championship. They took the
second place away. When they have taken the championship away
when they found out about the inducements to the players.
In general, they have been very wary of taking away
a national championship. They whether it would have been them,

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whether it would have been other UCLA teams or allegations
and their findings against whether it was a Kansas team
that won a national championship with a player who we
would have judged had received informissional bit of events, whether
it was a North Carolina team or received academic, you know, benefits.
They don't like to take down national champions so I

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don't know. I don't think they would have.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Okay, do you think that with the University of Louisville case,
And we're going to go to break, I'll let you
think about this one seven thirty with the University of
Louisville case, when you have money, sex, current players and
recruits may have been the tipping point. I want you
to think about that, and we'll come back after the break.

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Because the Sports Radio got the Eric Crawford all from
WDRB phone numbers five year old, two seventy nine hundred.
I am not taking telephone calls. We'll talk to you
all after the break. Welcome back to the Sports Radio

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seven thirty four. We have the one and only Eric
Crawford from WDRB sitting in with us today. Begin a
little bit about his article and some other issues. So, Eric,
you've had a chance to think about it. Do you
think the three prongs current players, recruits and money had
anything to do with the nc Doublea's issue was taking

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Louisville's twenty thirteen national championships.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, yeah, that's a big you know, the whole extra benefits,
the impermissible benefits. That's that's what triggers the nc DOUBLEA
on vacation eating stuff. There's no question, and they the big,
the big argument during the whole case for Louisville was

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that the amount of benefit would not have triggered, you know,
the vacation of a championship or any loss of wins,
because the amount didn't rise even to missing competition had
it been discovered. The NCAA said, all of these events
over a four year period, the collection of them rose

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to the level of a level one violation, and that
each one was which was would generally have been a
level two like a misdemeanor. Each violation was enhanced because
of the word you use. They use the word repugnant
and sorted whatever we were wanting to use. As we
can all agree, it was that that enhanced each one

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to a level one violation. That's why I thinks were
vacated and that's that would be the legal hurdle that
louisll would have to clear. It would be a very
difficult hurdle too clear, uh, I think legally just because
they followed that process and they used that judgment. My
thing was that they didn't use that judgment with anybody else.
They didn't. They didn't juice the penalties on any of

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these other things. But again with each case, it's a
different thing, the different kind of benefit. At Baylor, different
kind of thing all the way through, and they used
the rationale they did, and then we see the result
that that conclusion. Yeah, yes, yes, the Larry Naster, as
you said, doctor Larry Naster, and nobody got any benefit

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from Larry Naster. Yeah, it was just exactly. There was
no acting. It was just a school acting in a
way that that could have been better. Yeah, yes, inappropriately. So, yeah,
they're all but Louisville fans right now, the airways have
been they do believe with Michigan. Happy to Michigan with
a slap on the wrist, even though a lot did.

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You've got ten year show calls, and I want all
Cardinal fans. I'm not a hardball man. I've been saying
that they needed to put harsh appilities on him four years. Jim.
There's no question he had a culture that was not
a following the rules. We understand that four.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Year show calls, ten year show calls, but again until
they with the sign stealing your opinion, the KGP or
the KGB and all the network of individuals that they had,
do you think other than stealing the signs which did
benefit Michigan and winning a championship with that rise to

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the level like you just spoke about with Louisville, fine
stealing to take away a championship When we were considering
Louisville's three prongs, which was six money, former players and
recruits your opinion, putting them side by side, how do
you weigh those out?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, it's a different and it's a different rule book
with the NCUBA now the NCAA, because the players knew,
I mean players knew. They may have known what Connor
Stellin did, but they knew they were getting the signs
the other team. Maybe it was just scouting they were getting.
Maybe they were just more enhanced in what they were hearing.
But there were guys that knew, you know, there were

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students involved in stealing them. He would send managers and
stuff to do stuff. So there were players who benefited
and they benefit, you know, in a financial tangible way
from having played for national championship team and they received
you know, this is the thing that back twenty years
ago there would have been. But football is different from basketball.

(26:53):
I don't think. I don't think. I think the NCAA
could have stepped in and baking gwinns based on competitive advantage.
I think there's a there's a route for it to
have done that, but I don't think it could vacate
the championship. I don't think it can vacate the playoffs
because it doesn't sponsor the college football playoffs and it
doesn't sponsor the championship. The championship. They say that again

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though they does not sponsor, they they could spont they could.
I think the until they could vacate every win. They
could probably even vacate the wins in those games, but
they couldn't vacate the championship for Michigan because it's not
their championship to vacate. You know, that's there is no
n c double A champion in football. There's a college

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football playoff champion. So that's that they didn't have. They
didn't need, so I don't think that was on the
table at all. But again, their thing was we're not
going to punish players for something done by a rogue
assistant coach or a rogue assistant, and the other coaches
or even the guy who's the current head coach who

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was involved too. So it's a it's just a different day,
you know. It's just a different day than it was
even ten years ago, and in a certainly different day
than I was in twenty thirteen. And again it's you know,
there's people at Michigan and say, stealing signs is not
even cheating. You're allowed to steal side. Yes, no, I agree, no,

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I do. That's maybe so maybe, I mean they do
they watch videos, you could watch you know, TV video,
but you can't go to the game and you can't
do that. That just everybody knows that too. So you
know that's where that is. But I you know, again,
I would say the players, the players are probably just

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viewed in this in this light at Michigan as victims.
I would say that Lowell's players have a case to
be called victims too, because a lot of those guys
wouldn't have been you know, throwing money at strippers or
doing what they did at those parties had it not
been you know, laid right there in front of them.
So it was a it was a coercive thing that

(29:03):
happened at Little and you know it, you know, for
what that's just how that goes. But it's again, it's
a different you know, the n Cuba viewed it differently,
and and that's the results are just what they are.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
So you would tell Josh Hurt, if you were a
legal counsel, not to pursue trying to get the championship back.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
You know, here's here's yeah, I don't would it. I
think if Louiell's ever going to get that banner back,
it's just going to be because time changed and time
passed and and public pressure. I don't know that it's
going to get it back in court. That that's that's
a whole different story. You have a lot of things

(29:47):
to consider. Do you want to dredge all that back
up and put that in the headlines on a you know,
semi weekly basis in the open court of law. I
don't know. And I just wonder if Louislle, you know,
penn State people forget it wasn't just a lawsuit that
penn State filed. The entire state legislature Pennsylvania, the political

(30:08):
background Pennsylvania, they were all big on this getting Joe
Paterno's record back. Louill is not gonna have that kind
of backing in the state of Kentucky. It's just not
gonna happen. So I don't know. It's a diceier call
for Josh Hurd, especially in a situation where every dollar
you spend you have to weigh against We've got to

(30:32):
get this money for revenue share and everything else we're doing,
so you know it's going to be you know, if
there was some big money person stepping forward and saying, look,
i'll fund a lawsuit, let's go, and you found that
kind of pressure from your fan base, maybe I just
don't look for I don't look for Louisville to exert

(30:53):
any kind of legal pressure against the NCAA. I think
it's all gonna be, uh, you know, it'll just be
one of her other pressure they could find if there's
And it's like I even said in the column, it's
a tough it's a tough story to write about. It's
a tough thing to to talk for us to even
talk about. You don't want to be put in position
of defending what happened at Louisll because none of us does.

(31:16):
H Yeah, I agree, I don't, but you're not supporting Louisville.
But it happens. But it is in terms of in
every other case where there have been sexual misconduct and
more serious than what happened at Louisville, the NCAA has
has stepped back and even with its sexual nature, and

(31:36):
sometimes because of it said we don't, we're not, we're
not going to get involved in that. What it, you know,
and what it did with Louisville was it looked at
that and said that enhanced the penalty that it handed
out other than just what it would normally hand out.
If the if they you know, if a recruit had
gotten you know, one hundred and twenty five dollars immediately

(31:57):
shouldn't have gotten and then play a national champion hip team.
That's not gonna you know, that's not gonna. I'm gonna
trigger a vacation of the of the of everything he did.
But because again this, they decided what they did. And
then this is where we are.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Okay, before I let you go, we've got to get
your prediction. University of Kentucky football, University of Louisville football,
how do you see it played out? Before we go
to my last break.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh gosh, that's OK. I'm gonna say I think Kentucky
will be better than people expect. I just don't know think.
You know, they gotta They just have brutal schedule. That's
all it is. That's all their key. Their key game
is all missed the second game. You know, they can
win that game. They can put together something. But I'm

(32:43):
gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna say six wins. That
may wind up being five, but but I'm gonna put
them in the six and six category. There they find
a way. I think Louisville wins eight and uh, I
think that's a good number for them. They need to
win nine or ten to make it be the kind

(33:03):
of season that that fans are really jazzed about. But
for both of them need they need to do something
early to excite people because if they don't, the page
is gonna turn to basketball immediately, because you know, the
little game is you know, I'm just sorry Kentucky little games.
On November eleventh, louis Is gonna play Canda in exhibition. Here.

(33:25):
Kentucky's got the exhibitions, it's got it gets fast, and yeah,
they got Purdue coming in they get they're gonna play.
They're playing Saint John's Lituills got art little schedule is
really good, so uh they better. You know, they need
to capture people's attention and try and keep it because
otherwise it could stray.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's straight straight to basketball. Eric, I appreciate you absolutely, yes,
thank you for your input.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
And of course you don't wanna be reading your college
so I'll be calling. I appreciate or agree, no question anytime.
Thank you, Eric Crawford, w d RB. Guys, you all
watch him on television. Of course social media you can
see and get his articles. Fantastic Insight is.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
The sports radio. I'll be back with you after the break.
Welcome back to Eve's Sports Radio. Got Shton behind the Glass.
Eric Crawford from w d RB just left. Thank you
Eric for coming on the show. Y'all did not know
that I had a personal sitting in the corner. I
didn't do him like I did Anthony. I did make
him put his nose in the corner, but I made

(34:37):
him sit in the corner. I just didn't put him.
I didn't put a hat on him, but I made
him sit in the corner. But I'm gonna bring him out.
Now it's the one and only mister intellectual Alfred.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
But beer, coach, how you doing?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
So? What with the dunce?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Hat? On?

Speaker 4 (34:54):
With the.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
What you used to give me? I kept it and
gave it back to your coach?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Lord?

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Oh lord, yes, I was listening. Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
The coach. No, you are able to hear Eric Crawford.
You read the article. You got to hear some of
his logic and so of what do you think MLA's
logic is with this, of the Michigan case and all
the others. What do you think his opinion like buying
is that University of Lillo? Josh? Here, should I go
for it? With chasing? It's like a lot of the

(35:28):
fan base wanting to what do you think your opinion?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Coach?

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Well, I think Eric hid it and you have said it.
The most important thing now is that it would cost
a lot of money to get that banner back.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Now, does Louisville have the money, you know to go
into that legal battle? I don't know, especially when you
consider the you know, the environment of college athletics right now, okay,
within I am so had you know, everybody had some
pertinent points about this. I think the thing that he

(36:09):
this statement that he made that was really interesting is
that Loisville had committed numerous voilations and they kept piling
up over pi to three to four years. That you know,
the n C two A had to do something, you know, drastic,
and that's the reason why we are where we are

(36:30):
with this.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Okay, that's I mean, that's true.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I just tried to express the people. I wanted people
to understand that when you have current players, money, recruits,
and when you throw in the repugnant end of it,
which was sex with strippers, that kind of those that
four and that three prong I was incorrect. That four
prong pushed it to the highlight. That's what people don't

(36:58):
understand here. A lot of these the Winds did not
have those four prongs. They didn't have recruits coming in,
under age recruits, coach, they didn't have current players, and
with strippers in rooms and dance parties. The culture is
what kind of really I think insinuated the NCAA to

(37:18):
make a move, just like they did in the Penn State.
But Coach Beer, the Jerrysin Dusky Ysts, they did not
follow their bylaws. They acted quicker because of the nature.
I mean, you had him molesting kids. So that point,
the Jerrysindusky piece was not a benefit to the players,

(37:39):
but it was really hideous and it shows the culture
now why they wanted to give coach Paterno the wins back.
I wasn't in favor of that, just so everybody understand.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
He was a great coach.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
He was a great guy from what I heard, but
Danga's wins he weren't supposed to get him back. In
my opinion, Coach Beer not mine, So I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
What do you think.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
No, he was totally right about the fact that you know,
they was making sure that Joe would Yeah, they were
making sure that Joe would you know, would be the
winning his football coach in college athletic at that particular time.
So you know, people in high places make interesting decisions

(38:24):
for legacies, and that's what that's that's what that was
all about. It could you know, the thing that was
going on at Penn State might even be worse than
what went on at Louisville, because let's face it, they
did know that Sandusky was doing that for a number
of years and they let him, you know, they let him.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Over a fifteen year period, coaching fifteen year period. Yeah, well,
and just let you know coach at the n c
double A.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I thought that Eric brought up a great point that
a lot of people a little who did not understand
the NCAA does not run the college football playoffs and
hasn't for a long time.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
College football. Again, I want everybody to understand, it's not
like the pie in the sky. The president said, hey,
we're going to take ourselves out of this. We're going
to make all the money we can, so we're not
going to be the ones that run it. That's all
I want people to understand. The presidents and Adeline directors
made the decision to say college football playoffs will be
run differently. That's all than the rest in the NCAA tournament,

(39:26):
the women's tournament, baseball tournament. Those are the NCAA tournaments,
not the college football playoffs. Because of the money, you know,
they didn't want to share the money. So again, guys,
don't think that everybody's standing around that NCUAA with integrity
flags in their hands. That was about money. That's all
so little. It's a little bit more difficult to take

(39:48):
that away. They could do it coach. But it's a
little bit more difficult now, coach, Where I let you go? No,
you're moving back out to Phoenix on Wednesday, leaving the
East Coast for good. So congratulations on that move. I
was tired of you being a Gerbil, tired of the
coach I felt for you in the little Red Race
of New York. What do you think about both these

(40:10):
football teams, Louis and Kentucky? Your prediction, Well, I really
haven't looked at either one of them that closely this year, Jerry.
I'm being honest with you. I was listening to you
guys talk about, you know, both football teams and what
I will do because you know it'll be early in
the morning for me to watch and watch these teams

(40:32):
play because of the time difference. I'll get a feel
for both of these teams up probably after three games
and then if you know, if you want my opinion,
then I'll give it to you. That didn't make you happy.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
It didn't, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
It was political answers. I'm saying you ought to be
the politician, coach.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Well, coach, here's the second piece they said, And you
do know this that everyone in Louisville was expecting the
men's basketball team to go to the Final four. You
have been following that. What you comment on that one?

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Well, they maybe will have a chance again. Louisville got
so lucky last year and everything went right for them,
and I was happy for that to happen. Is it
going to happen again? I don't know. You know, give
coach Kelsey an opportunity to try to build a team

(41:32):
and we'll see what happens. The schedule will prepare them
for a tournament play. If they can get through and
not have a bunch of injuries and play pretty well,
we'll sit back and watch that as well. But I
like what he's done there with the people that he's
brought in. We just have to sit back and see

(41:53):
if he can pull it off again like it did
last year.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Got you well, Coach Beer. Like always, the show goes
so quickly. That's all that I can say. It's Onready
seven fifty six. Appreciate you sitting there and listening to
Eric Crawford again. Eric Crawford appreciates you MWDRB for coming
on EA Sports Radio. Save travels tomorrow. Coach. That's all
I can say. You do leave tomorrow, correct, No.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
I leave Thursday, Thursday, Thursday morning, brother, Thursday morning morning.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
All right, yep, forty eight hours.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
If you don't have a smile on your face, you're underdressed.
Put a smile on.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
That's all I can say, Eastports Radio, I'll talk to
you all tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Bye bye,