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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Come back to the show. Thanks for sitting in with me.
And of course we've got a co host that I know.
I rattled the teeth in his mouth. Oh I know
I did. Please bring on the one and only, bring you,
George Williams to the show. Hey, George, how you doing? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Great induction, Jered, great inductions. I talk about me now
talking about me? Yeah, I wasn't talking about the song.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
George is ar tickling me to death. I couldn't help it, George.
I had the buzz cat fans. I just wanted to
wake them up. They knew it was coming. George. I
waited all week. I didn't touch them until today. That's all.
Just got a buzz that killer hands a little bit.
I have a little fun, George, Yes, really, where.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Is your sense of hearing? Who do you think is
having fun with the teeth?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You're probably right, George.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But I mean, you know, I mean, if you don't
make that back, if you're gonna make got back feel
warm and Chrisby and stuff, why don't you play a
sound that air back and enjoy well?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
George? Tomorrow you all have got good old Rocky Top
at home. Wildcats Tennessee real rival. I mean, yeah, cat
fans love beating Louis Voyan. Louva loves to be Kentucky.
But there's no there's no Ribberry like Kentucky, Tennessee. I'm
just George. It's just fin. So I just had to
make sure I got I got everybody up, George. So, George, look, man,
(01:33):
this is pretty serious morning. You know we're gonna cover
a serious topic. Everyone understands what is transpired, what transpired yesterday,
and like we always do, I'm gonna say it then.
I'm gonna have you say it innocent until proven guilty,
and I'm sure you'll say it later on. George, you
don't have to say it now. But everyone knows indictments. Yes,
(01:58):
I understand FBI, Yes, wins over ninety eight percent of
their cases, George, and I understand said it yesterday on WHS.
But we're still innocent until proven guilty. But we are
going to talk about the case. We're going to stay
to the facts of the case. This is what we
always try to do. George, what do you think I mean?
(02:18):
Just quick comment before I get into the true details
of what transpired with Terry Roseier, former Cardinals Chauncey Billets,
The last time I saw Chauncey was at Junior Bridgman's funeral,
where he spoke last time, George. So where were you
with this, George? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know, Jerry, You know I always say I try
to wait till all the information comes in so we
can really evaluate it. You know, I think that we
don't know all the evidence.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We just writing.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
You know, we just heard that they got in diet
and everybody started writing about it. I just, like you know,
I always like to get all the information I can
before I want to uh condemn someone about what they've done.
But like you said, it's an investigation. Nobody's been proven
guilty yet, so let's just see where it takes us.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes, So I just want to bring people up to
date on what has transpired. Okay, the things that we
do know. I do have some video audio excuse me
that we'll have our friends listen to George. That will
give them a little more insight on certain things. But
(03:27):
I just wanted you all to know. Eastern District of
New York has indicted money laundry, wire fraud Chauncey, Billups,
Terry Rozier, and thirty four other individuals I don't want
to leave out those other individuals from different forms of gambling. George,
(03:50):
go ahead, go ahead, you got something.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, I'll always love how once levees get locked up,
we do the bad names and the other disappear and
we don't know who others are. We don't know what
kind of and they may be people in the they
may out so jed, but they're not getting mentioned because
(04:12):
they're not. They're gonna get the paper ratings that these
guys do. And so I'd like to see who the
thirty others are.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yes, and we'll find that out, George. We're going to
get those names. I have some of them. But so
but it hits home George, because oh isn't George. It's not.
It's in its home because of Terry Rogier is a
farmer cart. Okay, you don't know this, George, but I
want people to understand. George listens to a lot of
(04:41):
radio shows. George usually is the person that's calling me saying,
hey Evie, they're busting on you again. Hey Evie, they're
saying something that's not true that you said. Hey Jerry,
you might need to go back and listen. But George
did not do it on Wednesday, George. Wednesday, our competitors,
some of our friends, George and they are friends. They're
(05:03):
just trying to sell their show, and I understand they
have to use other people to sell their show. So
they were talking about things that had happened to the
University of Louisville because they thought that the ticket sales
were slow for tonight's game with You and I will
be at They said the ticket sales were slow because
of Kenney Payne, Butch Beard, Jerry Eaves, purpose Elison, the
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Wagner Boys.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They even threwing my man Dryl Griffin.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean they doing the Golden Griff. I'm like, were
y'all getting a Golden Griff? I mean there in the general?
I mean, I'm like, so, George, this is Windsday. So
my phone blows up. People tell not you. It's usually you,
though George, but saying ay Eve, they're using your name again.
I said, as long as they said it right in
seven ninety k r D. I just want them to
throw in phone number five zero two five seven one
(05:51):
show for me. I got no problem. But they were
doing that, that is, they were doing it Wednesday, George,
I answered them back yesterday because georgey were saying that
the damage that we had done with coach Payne for
two years was the reason why ticket sales were so bad. Okay, George,
(06:12):
I George, don't put this on me. I know it
sounds laughable, it's crazy, but that's what they said, okay.
And it was because Billy Thompson and purpose else and
honestly the Wagner boys. So I guess since Little Wagner
didn't come, it was his phone also. So I just
replied back yesterday George to let him know that the
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guys you talked about, I said, no more, Humble Pie
are just national championship. The guys you're talking about never
got any trouble, that's all. The guys you're talking about
represented the school like none other. I'm not going to
back off of it anymore. I'm kind of sick of
it because George, this copy just a couple of joints,
(06:54):
just a few. I just want to let them know.
Two final fours and if us Read doesn't hit, honestly
a sixty footer, it'll been three final four us. I'm
not gonna say we would have won one, but we'd
add three out of four I did my job. I'm
not listening to their garbage anymore. When they're trying to
tell their show they're dumb, straight up, they're stupid. I'm sorry.
(07:16):
I'm not pulling more punishes these things, George, these things,
the Terry roseius, the te wheels, these things that have
made my university look so bad. He's still innocent. But
no matter what, George, you just said it, no matter what,
will never erase the stain because it's already thrown out there.
(07:38):
I don't care, George. If he's acquitted, we're gonna get
a thirty second blip of he's acquitted. We're gonna get
six months of Terry Rose. You're gambling. Do you agree
or not? George?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I told you agree. I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And the one thing that I'll say about this, jar
and you were talking about, the one thing that I
show says all the time is that if you leave
what you say on the radio, we will offer you
any day that you want to come on about this.
I don't hear anybody that comes on with these allegations.
(08:10):
They want to talk to you about these allegations and
about the former team. The divide between Rickmatino and Denny Crump.
You know everybody wants to say.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
On my show, George, on my show show. If they
want you to, I'll go to their show. I sure,
but I'm tired of George. I'm tired of is the
bottom line. This community has to tell the truth, period,
point blank. So George, I'm pulling for Terry Rozier. I
want him to be acquitted, but it doesn't make any difference. George.
(08:43):
The diet is cast. It's been on CNN, Fox, ESPN, ABC, CBS.
Get a George. Oh my goodness, I can't another one. Honestly,
I can't take another one from that era. A player
and not the players. It's not their fault. It's that
(09:04):
they would try to lie and shifted to the eighties
like we did some other win championships and stand up
for what's right. And I'm gonna do that till I die.
I just don't care till I died.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So if I can say this, I can say this
the one. The one thing that I think is amazing.
A lot of guys are saying what they're saying. Are
not old enough to know what went on in the eighties.
You know, they don't know the tradition you know, I
can think of like if this was your era and
before that hall would be filled up, I mean, mums
(09:41):
filled up the hall that you didn't have no game
with half the station was there in half the stasion,
not that you know. And all this that came about
it came after all you guys got. And I like
how they like to divide, y'all, how you don't like
this era, and how you don't like the coaches to
come in. I have never heard us say anything bad
about any coach has been hired.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I know people want to get rid of the coaches
they talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't think talking about Kenny Payne. Go ahead, George,
talking about by name they do, but you, George, we
don't George. Josh Hurd p K. Fantastic job, period, point blank.
But this is like poetic justice for those knuckleheads Wednesday
saying that Butcher Beard did something other than represent this
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to the school, like you wouldn't believe other than winning
a world championship. Uh never again, mm hmm. Next time
my name comes out of their mouth, I'm calling their
show George. Period. I'm just tired of it. It is
what it is, because our fan base is beat up, George.
They're beat up because, you know what, they can't get
(10:50):
the truth. They're confused, can't get the truth, can't get
the truth. They just can't. They're confused, and you know
they try to do a great job of it. So
here there we are again talking about an era that
George now now there is no more denying it. There
were issues at the University of Louisville and that era
(11:11):
with Tom George Rifatino period period, and we're that way
throwing up the names and statues. George. I'm tired of it, Georgie.
I'm tired of people calling it up running to my house.
ESPN satellite radio. What's your comment, guys, you know what
(11:31):
the comment is, which you know what the comment is.
I mean, guys, let's just be honest on the sports radio,
and anybody that wants to be honest is saying the
same thing. Why now, in America, Georgie, you got a
group that will just you have They're gonna lie, and
you're supposed to say yes, period. I don't care what
anybody says. You're supposed to say yes, no matter what
(11:54):
it is, what it is. So after the break seven eighteen,
we've got to get. We've got people that gotta get
the scores in, but I'm going to give You've got
to get to the central issue, your issue, George, the
central football coach to it in this show. We're gonna
do that last fifteen minutes. But I'm gonna give them
all the information that is out there to this moment,
(12:15):
so that people don't know, at least they'll have the
whole picture. And again I've said at every solitary time yesterday,
I'm saying it today. He's innocent to a proven guilty period.
But I'm gonna say again to Louisville people, Louisville fans,
that era, we can't have any more of this. That's
(12:36):
all there is to it. And you all run around
acting like nothing's happening. What's going on? There's things happening,
for sure. This is the sports Radio said seven three, George,
We've got to knock out three callers and then we're
gonna get to the information that I have. Let's go
first with my one and only, my loved one, my wife,
Sheili's wants about that one hundred dollars radio? Are you
(13:00):
good morning? How you doing georgey? Sweet people?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Sheela nine that you're on the radio. You can calm
your husband. Danni's little pumped up this morning. Don't give
him no more milk.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You're about to blow a gasket, Bloyd gasket. I am
about to blow a gasket.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I can't take any more. I did go to that school.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Guys, Come on now sooner, A lady, you have to
say things that make you go mmm. So, Texas A
and M L s U is the game. Let me
have you. Okay, Texas A and M at L s U. Okay,
I'm gonna go Texas A and M twenty four L
s U sixteen. Okay, you still add Indiana?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh? Miss at Oklahoma? Very good game, both ranked.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'm going with Ole Miss.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay. Boston College, I'll see Georgia kids. I can't believe
I'm see just twice in twenty four hours. Boston College
at Louisville.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm gonna go with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Go Cards, Go Cards, rolling football team, Brons got them
rolling great win it Man Tennessee at Kentucky. A lot
of my Tennise Kentucky fans it hung up on me,
baby because I played Rocky Top. Hopefully they'll.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You know that the beginning.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'm gonna go with Tennessee, Okay, and Missouri at Vanderbilt
another great game.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Whoa, I'm gonna go with Missouri.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
No, okay, I like that. May I got you down.
Love your baby, Okay, Good day by j al. Hey George,
everybody say bye George. That's next caller, Next caller. W
(15:09):
Who do we have up, Marty? Who do I have
on the line? Marty? Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Hey, Jerry, how are you all doing this morning? Wonderful? Wonderful,
good good.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Jerry comments, First, well, you know, I bet you I do?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I bet you you do?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, Hey, here you go. Hey, hey, you could have
been the trifector in the in the NBA scandal.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Then o God, George and I are gonna get to them.
They I'll never get Yeah, as you well know. Well,
I'm gonna tell people personal experience. But let's get these
scores in so we can get back to it. Texas
n M N L A ship need to score.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
H R A and M thirty two the twenty.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay you still that? Are you?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh? Miss and Oklahoma Oklahoma Boston College at Louisville Boys Club, Louisville. Man,
you should take Boston College. You don't. You don't know
anything about football. Tennessee and Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Real close to Marney. Jerry. Hey, Hey, Hey, hey George, Hey,
you make me put his business out there? Man saving
Mary saving Savor. Yeah, yeah, uh, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm not scared of you, That's all I'm saying. I'm
gonna frightened of you. Missouri at Vanderbilt. Missouri got you,
appreciate it. Gotta let you go because I got people
trying to get in. Somebody take care, all right, I
have a great weekend. Let me have my last person
own and the person who just texts me the lines
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will be opening up. Call back, who's my last person?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Man?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Sports? Right?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Many and George and Jerry, George, I want to ask
you something.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Do you think we could call.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Slick Rica in New York and get get him to
call Katina Pound and get the band back together and
we could have a like a going away party for
Terry rose Berry.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Need that. I don't even need that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You too much?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Hey, George, Hey, George, I want to ask you if
you couldn't get ahold of Farrence Williams people, and maybe
maybe him and Terry could be roommates.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Now hold up, he's innocent, proven guilty. Slow your rope.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
But I mean, but all right, and I didn't get dark.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Hope Ya'll have a.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Good day, George. I don't think you wanted to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Jerry, No, but I mean, I but I understand. I mean, honestly,
it's time to say it. I can't, George, the next.
I can't if I see the next. We gotta mind it.
We gotta put up. We've gotta I'm gonna lose my mind.
I can't take it anymore. I just can't. I have
to say I hate it. I'm not saying that Terry
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is guilty. I'm just saying the implications of this is awful.
So let me just do this. Let me let me get.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
For your care away one second.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Sure, you know, I know we laugh and we joke
a lot on the show, but people do not realize
how much you make us research everything we bring on
this show. A lot of things we won't report because
we don't have enough information. And like I say, I
listen to guys report and talk about you, guys know
nothing about you, never heard you talk, never know your
lorgy to the university, and when you all get together
(18:54):
what you're talking about, how to make the university greater.
You know, I've never seen a farm of a former
car and get together when they don't want to see
the university greater, you know. And I think that that's
what people should understand. A lot of people just make
Blaytant's statements on the radio about what we say and.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You say and done.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But yeah, you know, you make us go through a
thorough research before you will even put it on the air.
And I think some of these guys that they do
their homeworkers, so just wanting to condemn people, they have
a better shoule.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Church. I appreciate you, I do, but it comes a
point in time. Louisville fans, you need to take off
those glasses that we saw Chauncey Billups wearing. You need
to take those off. Period. I'm tired of no more
with Jerry Eaves. I'm gonna slap the taste out of
their mouth when they come up with this garbage. Only
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thing Kenny Payne did was lose, and everybody in this
business gets fired. Coach Trump got fired. I'm not listening
to him ever again. Only thing Kenny did was lose.
That's okay, Sure, that's fine, but this other junk and
yak you can go somewhere with yourself. Eastern District of
New York indicted Chauncey Billips, part of a Mafias king
(20:07):
Terror Roseier Miami, illegal gambling, Damian Jones, and thirty one
other people. Let's just go to Terry Rose here played
it Louis March the twenty third of twenty twenty three.
Unexpected surge of vets on the under, which means there
was a group of people that knew before the game
(20:30):
that Terry wasn't feeling well or wasn't doing well, but
information unknown to the public. They're not supposed to know
cot me and they made wagers on games on the
game the Hornets Pelicans game thirteen seven and fifty nine
on the under non public information. At least seven games
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this happened, but the one game it was extreme because
there were a few one hundred thousand dollars wagers. George
got me. Players intentionally removing themselves from contests is where
they're going with this. Players get injured. I played really quickly, George,
and I know I am just running my mouth today,
but it is what it is. I told people that
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eleven games were played in Las Vegas, Nevada, real games
with the Utah Jazz. So the statement you hear people
say there's never been a real game played in official
gays alive. Kareem Abdul Jabbar broke the point record at
the time in Las Vegas. After the games, George, we
didn't fly out like these guys doing private planes. We'd
go back to the hotels in State, at the Old
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Dunes Hotel, and I gambled and by the third or
fourth time, I said, you losing three four hundred dollars,
there are time to come here, which in nineteen eighty two, George,
is some money. Okay, not money now, but it was
money then when you make forty thousand bucks, That's what
I said, who not for me? George? Not for me?
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I said, uh, I'll go and eat up all the
milkshakes and watch people give it. That's what I sawed.
That was when I was like, not for me. So
I'm not saying that I didn't gamble like a lot
of players do. They really do gamble, and I so
did I George personal, but I did it for about
three or four games and that was it. For me truly,
so let's continue. There was one hundred thousand dollars wager. George,
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his name is Laster. He was a personal friend, last
er of Terry Rozier, a personal friend from the old days.
George huge wager got me the which we're gonna listen to.
After the break. The gambling casinos caught it. They took
it to the NBA immediately. The NBA they stopped Terry,
(22:44):
stopped playing, but they didn't suspend Terry. And they're gonna
have questions answer themselves about this. But the gambling public,
the casinos, the houses took it to them, saying same
thing they did with Porter, that did it mit guilt
is banned from the NBA. That it was going on.
So they caught it right away. It's not like it
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slipped by. It did not. The casinos took it to
the NBA immediately. NBA looked into it. Did not suspend
Terry Rogier, Okay, so that's that's a plus for Terry.
Did not. His attorney, Jim Trust, met with the NBA
and the FBI in twenty twenty three. The NBA cleared,
the FBI did not. They said ongoing investigation. That's all.
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So I want people to understand the FBI did not clearing.
They just said ongoing, NBA, do what you want. It's
an ongoing investigation. Okay, So everybody gets these facts one
straight last year. Then went and collected the money in Philadelphia,
drove the money supposedly allegedly where they counted the money together.
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Terry Rogiero paid him his portion and kept the difference.
That is the money laundry. Okay, that is a wire
transfer from state to state. George. In two thousand and nine,
Sports Illustrated put out NBA five years out of the league,
sixty are broke. Two thousand and nine football players two
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years out of the league, seventy eight point nine percent
of the league is broke. They gamble too much, George.
They do always. They they gambled on planes. They gambled
too much. When I was assistant coach and coach Beard
and I spoke, they gambled. They just they have too
much disposable income. Twenty nineteen, George, at least the numbers
had dawned down. Five years out, only fifty four percent
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of the NBA were broke. Twenty nineteen, leaguet seventy two
percent of football players were broke two years out, so
that is what the case is on. As for the
Terry Rozier piece, George, you have to see the glasses
he was wearing. To see the cards of George again
Terrors year. It's made over one hundred and thirty million.
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Chauncey Billups has made over two hundred million, George, and
they're gambling to make hundreds of thousands to let you
know how bad the decisions are. So before I go
to break, you got anything, George you want to add
before I go to break seven thirty five.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
You know, Jared, I know you're gonna say it's crazy,
but people do not realize when you have an addiction
how bad it can can make you do stuff that
you know, like you say, Jerry, you showed that they
do not need the money, but the addiction to be
able to gamble is greater than them realizing how much
money they're throwing away at a one or two times,
because you know, like a lot of us think, well
(25:37):
we're playing a game for one hundred dollars, Jared, they're
planning for one hundred thousands, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And that that can go see real quickly.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
When people talking about How can you spend that kind
of money when you've been in one hundred thousand seven
days a week, maybe fifteen times, you know, through quite
a bit of money in a year.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You can't. That's correct, correct, and it doesn't guys and
nineteen of my first nbass in coaching job, nineteen ninety four.
I'm not going to call out names, but on planes
they had ten thousand dollars hands in nineteen ninety four,
four or five guys playing poker ten thousand dollars a pole.
Come on, gods, you got flights in are three hours long?
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Cash money everywhere, too much money, too much time, and
just not enough financial discipline break George cred I like.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
To say this, Jeed, but I watch people who have
no money every night go in and buy those cards
and a lottery taking. So I don't think it has
nothing to do with disposable income. I think it's act money,
badstone jet and should have gambled.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I spee some mm hm, you're right now. I see
people that put them.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I pray that it don't praise on the poor. Know
your one hundred percent right now, gambling, praise on the poor,
lottery tickets, Pray on the poor. That's fact. That is
a fact. Eaves Swords Radio, Great point, George, seven thirty seven.
When we come back, I'm gonna let you listen to
win a horse and a few guys discussing this issue
with gambling in the NBA. Eavestwards Radio. I'll talk to
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you in a minute.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
We're absolutely right, Rich. The NBA at some point is
going to have to explain why Terry Roseier was allowed
to keep playing. And I just want to point something out.
The sports books caught the irregular, irregular betting on Terry
rose here the day it happened, the morning it happened,
when all of a sudden, there was hundreds of thousands
of dollars coming in on terror Rogier unders for a
(27:33):
relatively meaningless game in November, I'm sorry, in in March,
involving the Charlotte Hornets. The sportsbooks caught it. They told
the NBA right away.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And guess what.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
The NBA Rozier didn't play the rest of the season,
and he had faked the injury, so it wasn't because
of the injury. The NBA pulled them. They pulled John
Tay Porter too. They flagged Johntay Porter and pulled Johntay Porter.
The NBA's measures there, you know, their their comple want
you know their their their their protection measures, the sportsbooks
protection measure.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's triggered this.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
They caught it. The issue I think is, you know
John Tay Porter, they caught convicted and tossed him out
of the league within weeks. Rogier didn't. And this in
this investigation. And I don't know if Terry Rogier is guilty.
The NBA obviously didn't feel that he was. They wouldn't
have let him play. But this indictment implies that there
was a swath of conspirators. There was like his cousin,
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his cousin's friend, I mean all the way down to
like low level guys who won money on this bet
and then immediately.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
They bet on other games. Thank you. So I just
wanted everyone to hear that aspect so that you would
know what was transpiring. Let me get to Joe George
and I'm a throw it to you, Joe. Welcome to
the Sports rad Are you good morning? Jerry?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Enjoyed your show and thanks for clarification on Terry Rozier.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Appreciate that they blame me for everything, Jerry, since you since.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You came off bunseled boulevard right.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Corrected that, but not anymore. I'm gonna be be honest
with you. I'm not not anymore. I'm just not anymore.
I'm really.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Anyway, Hey, I want to do this. I want to
bet the games this week for you.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Let's go Texas and Texas A and m A.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
L s U do at LSU, right, they're playing l Terry.
I'll take l S Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Can you give me your score?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Score twenty four to twenty one?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Okay? Never, I mean people have taken LSU. You're fine.
UCLA at Indiana. I just need the winner Indiana. Oh,
miss at Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Okay, tough James Boys Club at Louisville.
(29:55):
That's a route.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'll take a little.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Missouri and Vanderbilt excuse me, Tennessee at Kentucky, Tennessee, Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Uh yeah, I'm gonna have to take the fighting Wolves. Unfortunately,
I know you old Rocky time.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love it. Had to give it to you. Missouri
at Vanderbilt. Missouri and Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I'm gonna take Bandy all right, I've got you.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Thanks for listening, all right, great, thank you for listening.
Got you. So, so George, go ahead, I'm doing it
to you before I get to my next calling. What
do you think you got to a little bit to
win horse speaking about it? The family ties is the
issue why the NBA is gonna have some some egg
on his face, they say, because of the family ties.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Right, Well, you know that's one of the hardest aspects
of mom. Don't realize by being a pro is how
you have to pick your pen and help people that
really made say they hate you. But Jerry, you got
to have people that got your best interest at heart
at all times and can talk to you and pull you,
pull your call and tell you, look what you're doing,
(31:12):
Look who you're running with, Look what the answering you
to do. Because you have everything to lose. They have
nothing to lose, Jerry, And people don't know that. It's
just like right now we're talking about John Said, Billups
and Terry Rogier, and there's thirty other people that is
guilty is them, and we don't have a clue who
they are. So when it comes out and you're asthuleally, Jerry,
you will be recognized first. So you got to really
(31:34):
be close to who you run with and where you're going,
what you're doing at all times, because there's somebody with
a camera trying to bring you down at any point.
They can exactly and sometimes people that push you for that.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yes, yes, yes, and where again, these are only allegations.
We're gonna have to wait and see, but the information
that they do have. And Georgie, as you will know, Georgia,
we play about things. But George says, first talk, first walk.
Their people are talking. Trust me, people are talking.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I'll tell you that at all time. Ja, that's how
his name.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah mm hm me. First talk, first walk, which means
when that FBI sit you down and says we have things.
The more you give us, the less time you'll do.
People start to talk, that's all there is to it.
Then they have to find the proof to go with
the conversation, and if they do, they'll move to that person.
So we'll have to wait and see. We do. I
hate it. I do have one more person on the line,
(32:34):
Is that right, William?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Adam?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Do I have Adam? Yes, let's see Adam. Welcome to
you Sports Radio. How are you?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
I'm going five?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
What's that Adam?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
We love Adam enough to speak to us. Yes, we
look at him, Adam. Just call us back. Let's go
to break William. When we come back, we're going to
listen to one work I want to try to hear.
I want you to have all the year well the
(33:11):
sports radio, one of these five YEARO two s nine hundred.
We try to tell you all the truth. We do.
It's not always popular, though, talk to you in a
minute your listening to sports talk seven nine days.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
How do you get players who are making millions in
some cases to get involved in something like this? You know,
I don't think you understand the level of gambling among
professional athletes, even college athletes. And I've been doing this
for thirty years since they recruited me. All the leagues
recruited me out of prison, you know, back in nineteen
(33:44):
ninety four, because they knew they were having such a problem,
and I had a number of bookmakers working for me.
The FBI filled them in on that, so they chose
me to come and speak to the players and try
to dissuade them from getting involved with organized crime. You
don't realize, you know, gambling is an extension of their
competitive nature. It raises the stakes and the competition these
guys get themselves in so much trouble it doesn't matter
(34:06):
how much money they make. And you know, let me
use Michael Jordan as an example. There was a time
when I said Michael had a real gambling problem because
he gambles on everything. And I've witnessed it in certain
cases when I was working with the NBA. But you know,
he came out in that thing that he did the
documentary on him, and he said, you know, I don't
have a gambling problem. I have a competition problem.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'm not shocked what I Shoe Bill appreciate that. Welcome
back to the sports radio. I just wanted to make
sure that was a professional gambler that was imprisoned over it.
He ran a ring, he had players on his payroll.
The NBA hired him to come speak to the players
to try to stop and the gate. What was going
(34:47):
on with the gambling issues that we have, George. We
got Scout on the line, Scott, no more calls. I'm sorry, guys,
it's packed up, Scott. Welcome to the sports radio. Are
you Jerry?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I'm doing good about yourself.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
You know, lim Lim, I find that say about two
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You're ready study. You get your scores in yes, sir ready, yes, sir, yes, sir,
Texas A and M A L s U Texas A
M at LU.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I'm gonna go A and M twenty eight twenty four.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And that may be taken. I don't have time to
check it. If not, I'll call you back. Oh miss
at Oklahoma. Excuse me, s U c L at Indiana, Indiana,
Oh missing Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Uh, that could be a good game at in Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Yes.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
In Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Boston College at Louisville, Boston College at Louisville, your favorite team.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
As much as I hate say this, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Go with the old Birds.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
There you go, just going to say converted Tennessee at Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
You know what, I'm that that that tea in front
of that shirt is Kentucky's kryptonite. But I think this year,
I gotta go to Kentucky this year, after what they
played when they played last weekend. If I am, I'm
gonna go in Kentucky. If Kentucky will have took the
(36:32):
bag off pipes last weekend that had a win on wan.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Boy the same, thanks Gotty, Oh my god, you left.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
At Vanderbilt I'm gonna go bandy, gotcha, I got you, Cat,
I got to get one more person. Take care of
Welcome to the sports right now, take care YouTube. He
dropped David Welcome, he dropped great. Okay, So look, guys, George,
(37:13):
just really quickly, your Central football coach Marvin had an issue,
as you well know. I sent it to you and
I know you knew about it. But he had an
issue that the band was playing during the Sales game
and he and the principal fell out, and George, I mean,
things went south quick at Central High School. So what
we'll do Monday, We'll give it it to do George,
(37:36):
We'll give it to we'll talk about coach of Danzler
and what happened at Central. I don't think he's coaching today.
He and the principal, doctor Compton, fell out, and elect
director Steven Seghal fell out. I know he met with
doctor April Brooks, my niece, who runs the Justin County
School System's ADS. So I don't know. We'll maybe we'll
(37:56):
have more information on Monday. So maybe best that we
hold it to money, right.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I kind of sense something then. I told your game
before last year against Covenant uh, coveing the homes.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I'm not sure what I know.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
It was a covening team they played, but it was
kind of out of getting kind of wacky over you
know what I mean. I watched it for me talking
to the young man, kind of crazy, but I you know,
I didn't know it was to this extent. So let's
let's wait till Monday and we can do some more
research and I try to get some more research done
exactly and see who we come up with.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
There you go, No, I think that's a smart thing
to do. Tonight's game Kentucky Purdue. I mean, what a
weekend Kentucky that Purdue basketball Tennessee at cant I mean,
can Purdue at Kentucky basketball Tennessee and Kentucky football. We've
got Louisville, which I can't wait. I can't wait to
watch mister Brown play. I'm really excited to watch this
(38:48):
kid play. I mean, I'm truly pumped. So Joe, We've
got a lot of great things. We've got Major League
World Series starts tonight and the NBA. He is phenomenal.
People that oh Wemby's Wemby. What about Shake Gildings? Your boy?
You called him out first. George, I'm giving you your
(39:10):
Duke fifty five.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I told you when I seen him the first time, Jared,
he was magic.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Boy fifty five. Shake Gildings, Alexander. I mean, guys, the
NBA is on fire. We just have this information. Eves
Swartz Radio. I love you all, but honestly, the truth
must be told. No more phibbing. We have issues and
we have to get them. Try to help our players
get them straight. This is Eve Sworts Radio. I'll talk
to you all that
Come back to the show. Thanks for sitting in with me.
And of course we've got a co host that I know.
I rattled the teeth in his mouth. Oh I know
I did. Please bring on the one and only, bring you,
George Williams to the show. Hey, George, how you doing? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Great induction, Jered, great inductions. I talk about me now
talking about me? Yeah, I wasn't talking about the song.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
George is ar tickling me to death. I couldn't help it, George.
I had the buzz cat fans. I just wanted to
wake them up. They knew it was coming. George. I
waited all week. I didn't touch them until today. That's all.
Just got a buzz that killer hands a little bit.
I have a little fun, George, Yes, really, where.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Is your sense of hearing? Who do you think is
having fun with the teeth?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You're probably right, George.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But I mean, you know, I mean, if you don't
make that back, if you're gonna make got back feel
warm and Chrisby and stuff, why don't you play a
sound that air back and enjoy well?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
George? Tomorrow you all have got good old Rocky Top
at home. Wildcats Tennessee real rival. I mean, yeah, cat
fans love beating Louis Voyan. Louva loves to be Kentucky.
But there's no there's no Ribberry like Kentucky, Tennessee. I'm
just George. It's just fin. So I just had to
make sure I got I got everybody up, George. So, George, look, man,
(01:33):
this is pretty serious morning. You know we're gonna cover
a serious topic. Everyone understands what is transpired, what transpired yesterday,
and like we always do, I'm gonna say it then.
I'm gonna have you say it innocent until proven guilty,
and I'm sure you'll say it later on. George, you
don't have to say it now. But everyone knows indictments. Yes,
(01:58):
I understand FBI, Yes, wins over ninety eight percent of
their cases, George, and I understand said it yesterday on WHS.
But we're still innocent until proven guilty. But we are
going to talk about the case. We're going to stay
to the facts of the case. This is what we
always try to do. George, what do you think I mean?
(02:18):
Just quick comment before I get into the true details
of what transpired with Terry Roseier, former Cardinals Chauncey Billets,
The last time I saw Chauncey was at Junior Bridgman's funeral,
where he spoke last time, George. So where were you
with this, George? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know, Jerry, You know I always say I try
to wait till all the information comes in so we
can really evaluate it. You know, I think that we
don't know all the evidence.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We just writing.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
You know, we just heard that they got in diet
and everybody started writing about it. I just, like you know,
I always like to get all the information I can
before I want to uh condemn someone about what they've done.
But like you said, it's an investigation. Nobody's been proven
guilty yet, so let's just see where it takes us.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes, So I just want to bring people up to
date on what has transpired. Okay, the things that we
do know. I do have some video audio excuse me
that we'll have our friends listen to George. That will
give them a little more insight on certain things. But
(03:27):
I just wanted you all to know. Eastern District of
New York has indicted money laundry, wire fraud Chauncey, Billups,
Terry Rozier, and thirty four other individuals I don't want
to leave out those other individuals from different forms of gambling. George,
(03:50):
go ahead, go ahead, you got something.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, I'll always love how once levees get locked up,
we do the bad names and the other disappear and
we don't know who others are. We don't know what
kind of and they may be people in the they
may out so jed, but they're not getting mentioned because
(04:12):
they're not. They're gonna get the paper ratings that these
guys do. And so I'd like to see who the
thirty others are.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yes, and we'll find that out, George. We're going to
get those names. I have some of them. But so
but it hits home George, because oh isn't George. It's not.
It's in its home because of Terry Rogier is a
farmer cart. Okay, you don't know this, George, but I
want people to understand. George listens to a lot of
(04:41):
radio shows. George usually is the person that's calling me saying,
hey Evie, they're busting on you again. Hey Evie, they're
saying something that's not true that you said. Hey Jerry,
you might need to go back and listen. But George
did not do it on Wednesday, George. Wednesday, our competitors,
some of our friends, George and they are friends. They're
(05:03):
just trying to sell their show, and I understand they
have to use other people to sell their show. So
they were talking about things that had happened to the
University of Louisville because they thought that the ticket sales
were slow for tonight's game with You and I will
be at They said the ticket sales were slow because
of Kenney Payne, Butch Beard, Jerry Eaves, purpose Elison, the
(05:24):
Wagner Boys.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They even threwing my man Dryl Griffin.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean they doing the Golden Griff. I'm like, were
y'all getting a Golden Griff? I mean there in the general?
I mean, I'm like, so, George, this is Windsday. So
my phone blows up. People tell not you. It's usually you,
though George, but saying ay Eve, they're using your name again.
I said, as long as they said it right in
seven ninety k r D. I just want them to
throw in phone number five zero two five seven one
(05:51):
show for me. I got no problem. But they were
doing that, that is, they were doing it Wednesday, George,
I answered them back yesterday because georgey were saying that
the damage that we had done with coach Payne for
two years was the reason why ticket sales were so bad. Okay, George,
(06:12):
I George, don't put this on me. I know it
sounds laughable, it's crazy, but that's what they said, okay.
And it was because Billy Thompson and purpose else and
honestly the Wagner boys. So I guess since Little Wagner
didn't come, it was his phone also. So I just
replied back yesterday George to let him know that the
(06:33):
guys you talked about, I said, no more, Humble Pie
are just national championship. The guys you're talking about never
got any trouble, that's all. The guys you're talking about
represented the school like none other. I'm not going to
back off of it anymore. I'm kind of sick of
it because George, this copy just a couple of joints,
(06:54):
just a few. I just want to let them know.
Two final fours and if us Read doesn't hit, honestly
a sixty footer, it'll been three final four us. I'm
not gonna say we would have won one, but we'd
add three out of four I did my job. I'm
not listening to their garbage anymore. When they're trying to
tell their show they're dumb, straight up, they're stupid. I'm sorry.
(07:16):
I'm not pulling more punishes these things, George, these things,
the Terry roseius, the te wheels, these things that have
made my university look so bad. He's still innocent. But
no matter what, George, you just said it, no matter what,
will never erase the stain because it's already thrown out there.
(07:38):
I don't care, George. If he's acquitted, we're gonna get
a thirty second blip of he's acquitted. We're gonna get
six months of Terry Rose. You're gambling. Do you agree
or not? George?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I told you agree. I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And the one thing that I'll say about this, jar
and you were talking about, the one thing that I
show says all the time is that if you leave
what you say on the radio, we will offer you
any day that you want to come on about this.
I don't hear anybody that comes on with these allegations.
(08:10):
They want to talk to you about these allegations and
about the former team. The divide between Rickmatino and Denny Crump.
You know everybody wants to say.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
On my show, George, on my show show. If they
want you to, I'll go to their show. I sure,
but I'm tired of George. I'm tired of is the
bottom line. This community has to tell the truth, period,
point blank. So George, I'm pulling for Terry Rozier. I
want him to be acquitted, but it doesn't make any difference. George.
(08:43):
The diet is cast. It's been on CNN, Fox, ESPN, ABC, CBS.
Get a George. Oh my goodness, I can't another one. Honestly,
I can't take another one from that era. A player
and not the players. It's not their fault. It's that
(09:04):
they would try to lie and shifted to the eighties
like we did some other win championships and stand up
for what's right. And I'm gonna do that till I die.
I just don't care till I died.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So if I can say this, I can say this
the one. The one thing that I think is amazing.
A lot of guys are saying what they're saying. Are
not old enough to know what went on in the eighties.
You know, they don't know the tradition you know, I
can think of like if this was your era and
before that hall would be filled up, I mean, mums
(09:41):
filled up the hall that you didn't have no game
with half the station was there in half the stasion,
not that you know. And all this that came about
it came after all you guys got. And I like
how they like to divide, y'all, how you don't like
this era, and how you don't like the coaches to
come in. I have never heard us say anything bad
about any coach has been hired.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I know people want to get rid of the coaches
they talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't think talking about Kenny Payne. Go ahead, George,
talking about by name they do, but you, George, we
don't George. Josh Hurd p K. Fantastic job, period, point blank.
But this is like poetic justice for those knuckleheads Wednesday
saying that Butcher Beard did something other than represent this
(10:28):
to the school, like you wouldn't believe other than winning
a world championship. Uh never again, mm hmm. Next time
my name comes out of their mouth, I'm calling their
show George. Period. I'm just tired of it. It is
what it is, because our fan base is beat up, George.
They're beat up because, you know what, they can't get
(10:50):
the truth. They're confused, can't get the truth, can't get
the truth. They just can't. They're confused, and you know
they try to do a great job of it. So
here there we are again talking about an era that
George now now there is no more denying it. There
were issues at the University of Louisville and that era
(11:11):
with Tom George Rifatino period period, and we're that way
throwing up the names and statues. George. I'm tired of it, Georgie.
I'm tired of people calling it up running to my house.
ESPN satellite radio. What's your comment, guys, you know what
(11:31):
the comment is, which you know what the comment is.
I mean, guys, let's just be honest on the sports radio,
and anybody that wants to be honest is saying the
same thing. Why now, in America, Georgie, you got a
group that will just you have They're gonna lie, and
you're supposed to say yes, period. I don't care what
anybody says. You're supposed to say yes, no matter what
(11:54):
it is, what it is. So after the break seven eighteen,
we've got to get. We've got people that gotta get
the scores in, but I'm going to give You've got
to get to the central issue, your issue, George, the
central football coach to it in this show. We're gonna
do that last fifteen minutes. But I'm gonna give them
all the information that is out there to this moment,
(12:15):
so that people don't know, at least they'll have the
whole picture. And again I've said at every solitary time yesterday,
I'm saying it today. He's innocent to a proven guilty period.
But I'm gonna say again to Louisville people, Louisville fans,
that era, we can't have any more of this. That's
(12:36):
all there is to it. And you all run around
acting like nothing's happening. What's going on? There's things happening,
for sure. This is the sports Radio said seven three, George,
We've got to knock out three callers and then we're
gonna get to the information that I have. Let's go
first with my one and only, my loved one, my wife,
Sheili's wants about that one hundred dollars radio? Are you
(13:00):
good morning? How you doing georgey? Sweet people?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Sheela nine that you're on the radio. You can calm
your husband. Danni's little pumped up this morning. Don't give
him no more milk.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You're about to blow a gasket, Bloyd gasket. I am
about to blow a gasket.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I can't take any more. I did go to that school.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Guys, Come on now sooner, A lady, you have to
say things that make you go mmm. So, Texas A
and M L s U is the game. Let me
have you. Okay, Texas A and M at L s U. Okay,
I'm gonna go Texas A and M twenty four L
s U sixteen. Okay, you still add Indiana?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh? Miss at Oklahoma? Very good game, both ranked.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'm going with Ole Miss.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay. Boston College, I'll see Georgia kids. I can't believe
I'm see just twice in twenty four hours. Boston College
at Louisville.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm gonna go with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Go Cards, Go Cards, rolling football team, Brons got them
rolling great win it Man Tennessee at Kentucky. A lot
of my Tennise Kentucky fans it hung up on me,
baby because I played Rocky Top. Hopefully they'll.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You know that the beginning.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'm gonna go with Tennessee, Okay, and Missouri at Vanderbilt
another great game.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Whoa, I'm gonna go with Missouri.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
No, okay, I like that. May I got you down.
Love your baby, Okay, Good day by j al. Hey George,
everybody say bye George. That's next caller, Next caller. W
(15:09):
Who do we have up, Marty? Who do I have
on the line? Marty? Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Hey, Jerry, how are you all doing this morning? Wonderful? Wonderful,
good good.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Jerry comments, First, well, you know, I bet you I do?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I bet you you do?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, Hey, here you go. Hey, hey, you could have
been the trifector in the in the NBA scandal.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Then o God, George and I are gonna get to them.
They I'll never get Yeah, as you well know. Well,
I'm gonna tell people personal experience. But let's get these
scores in so we can get back to it. Texas
n M N L A ship need to score.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
H R A and M thirty two the twenty.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay you still that? Are you?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh? Miss and Oklahoma Oklahoma Boston College at Louisville Boys Club, Louisville. Man,
you should take Boston College. You don't. You don't know
anything about football. Tennessee and Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Real close to Marney. Jerry. Hey, Hey, Hey, hey George, Hey,
you make me put his business out there? Man saving
Mary saving Savor. Yeah, yeah, uh, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm not scared of you, That's all I'm saying. I'm
gonna frightened of you. Missouri at Vanderbilt. Missouri got you,
appreciate it. Gotta let you go because I got people
trying to get in. Somebody take care, all right, I
have a great weekend. Let me have my last person
own and the person who just texts me the lines
(17:12):
will be opening up. Call back, who's my last person?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Man?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Sports? Right?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Many and George and Jerry, George, I want to ask
you something.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Do you think we could call.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Slick Rica in New York and get get him to
call Katina Pound and get the band back together and
we could have a like a going away party for
Terry rose Berry.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Need that. I don't even need that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You too much?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Hey, George, Hey, George, I want to ask you if
you couldn't get ahold of Farrence Williams people, and maybe
maybe him and Terry could be roommates.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Now hold up, he's innocent, proven guilty. Slow your rope.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
But I mean, but all right, and I didn't get dark.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Hope Ya'll have a.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Good day, George. I don't think you wanted to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Jerry, No, but I mean, I but I understand. I mean, honestly,
it's time to say it. I can't, George, the next.
I can't if I see the next. We gotta mind it.
We gotta put up. We've gotta I'm gonna lose my mind.
I can't take it anymore. I just can't. I have
to say I hate it. I'm not saying that Terry
(18:22):
is guilty. I'm just saying the implications of this is awful.
So let me just do this. Let me let me get.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
For your care away one second.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Sure, you know, I know we laugh and we joke
a lot on the show, but people do not realize
how much you make us research everything we bring on
this show. A lot of things we won't report because
we don't have enough information. And like I say, I
listen to guys report and talk about you, guys know
nothing about you, never heard you talk, never know your
lorgy to the university, and when you all get together
(18:54):
what you're talking about, how to make the university greater.
You know, I've never seen a farm of a former
car and get together when they don't want to see
the university greater, you know. And I think that that's
what people should understand. A lot of people just make
Blaytant's statements on the radio about what we say and.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You say and done.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But yeah, you know, you make us go through a
thorough research before you will even put it on the air.
And I think some of these guys that they do
their homeworkers, so just wanting to condemn people, they have
a better shoule.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Church. I appreciate you, I do, but it comes a
point in time. Louisville fans, you need to take off
those glasses that we saw Chauncey Billups wearing. You need
to take those off. Period. I'm tired of no more
with Jerry Eaves. I'm gonna slap the taste out of
their mouth when they come up with this garbage. Only
(19:43):
thing Kenny Payne did was lose, and everybody in this
business gets fired. Coach Trump got fired. I'm not listening
to him ever again. Only thing Kenny did was lose.
That's okay, Sure, that's fine, but this other junk and
yak you can go somewhere with yourself. Eastern District of
New York indicted Chauncey Billips, part of a Mafias king
(20:07):
Terror Roseier Miami, illegal gambling, Damian Jones, and thirty one
other people. Let's just go to Terry Rose here played
it Louis March the twenty third of twenty twenty three.
Unexpected surge of vets on the under, which means there
was a group of people that knew before the game
(20:30):
that Terry wasn't feeling well or wasn't doing well, but
information unknown to the public. They're not supposed to know
cot me and they made wagers on games on the
game the Hornets Pelicans game thirteen seven and fifty nine
on the under non public information. At least seven games
(20:54):
this happened, but the one game it was extreme because
there were a few one hundred thousand dollars wagers. George
got me. Players intentionally removing themselves from contests is where
they're going with this. Players get injured. I played really quickly, George,
and I know I am just running my mouth today,
but it is what it is. I told people that
(21:16):
eleven games were played in Las Vegas, Nevada, real games
with the Utah Jazz. So the statement you hear people
say there's never been a real game played in official
gays alive. Kareem Abdul Jabbar broke the point record at
the time in Las Vegas. After the games, George, we
didn't fly out like these guys doing private planes. We'd
go back to the hotels in State, at the Old
(21:38):
Dunes Hotel, and I gambled and by the third or
fourth time, I said, you losing three four hundred dollars,
there are time to come here, which in nineteen eighty two, George,
is some money. Okay, not money now, but it was
money then when you make forty thousand bucks, That's what
I said, who not for me? George? Not for me?
(21:58):
I said, uh, I'll go and eat up all the
milkshakes and watch people give it. That's what I sawed.
That was when I was like, not for me. So
I'm not saying that I didn't gamble like a lot
of players do. They really do gamble, and I so
did I George personal, but I did it for about
three or four games and that was it. For me truly,
so let's continue. There was one hundred thousand dollars wager. George,
(22:21):
his name is Laster. He was a personal friend, last
er of Terry Rozier, a personal friend from the old days.
George huge wager got me the which we're gonna listen to.
After the break. The gambling casinos caught it. They took
it to the NBA immediately. The NBA they stopped Terry,
(22:44):
stopped playing, but they didn't suspend Terry. And they're gonna
have questions answer themselves about this. But the gambling public,
the casinos, the houses took it to them, saying same
thing they did with Porter, that did it mit guilt
is banned from the NBA. That it was going on.
So they caught it right away. It's not like it
(23:05):
slipped by. It did not. The casinos took it to
the NBA immediately. NBA looked into it. Did not suspend
Terry Rogier, Okay, so that's that's a plus for Terry.
Did not. His attorney, Jim Trust, met with the NBA
and the FBI in twenty twenty three. The NBA cleared,
the FBI did not. They said ongoing investigation. That's all.
(23:28):
So I want people to understand the FBI did not clearing.
They just said ongoing, NBA, do what you want. It's
an ongoing investigation. Okay, So everybody gets these facts one
straight last year. Then went and collected the money in Philadelphia,
drove the money supposedly allegedly where they counted the money together.
(23:53):
Terry Rogiero paid him his portion and kept the difference.
That is the money laundry. Okay, that is a wire
transfer from state to state. George. In two thousand and nine,
Sports Illustrated put out NBA five years out of the league,
sixty are broke. Two thousand and nine football players two
(24:18):
years out of the league, seventy eight point nine percent
of the league is broke. They gamble too much, George.
They do always. They they gambled on planes. They gambled
too much. When I was assistant coach and coach Beard
and I spoke, they gambled. They just they have too
much disposable income. Twenty nineteen, George, at least the numbers
had dawned down. Five years out, only fifty four percent
(24:40):
of the NBA were broke. Twenty nineteen, leaguet seventy two
percent of football players were broke two years out, so
that is what the case is on. As for the
Terry Rozier piece, George, you have to see the glasses
he was wearing. To see the cards of George again
Terrors year. It's made over one hundred and thirty million.
(25:02):
Chauncey Billups has made over two hundred million, George, and
they're gambling to make hundreds of thousands to let you
know how bad the decisions are. So before I go
to break, you got anything, George you want to add
before I go to break seven thirty five.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
You know, Jared, I know you're gonna say it's crazy,
but people do not realize when you have an addiction
how bad it can can make you do stuff that
you know, like you say, Jerry, you showed that they
do not need the money, but the addiction to be
able to gamble is greater than them realizing how much
money they're throwing away at a one or two times,
because you know, like a lot of us think, well
(25:37):
we're playing a game for one hundred dollars, Jared, they're
planning for one hundred thousands, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And that that can go see real quickly.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
When people talking about How can you spend that kind
of money when you've been in one hundred thousand seven
days a week, maybe fifteen times, you know, through quite
a bit of money in a year.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You can't. That's correct, correct, and it doesn't guys and
nineteen of my first nbass in coaching job, nineteen ninety four.
I'm not going to call out names, but on planes
they had ten thousand dollars hands in nineteen ninety four,
four or five guys playing poker ten thousand dollars a pole.
Come on, gods, you got flights in are three hours long?
(26:16):
Cash money everywhere, too much money, too much time, and
just not enough financial discipline break George cred I like.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
To say this, Jeed, but I watch people who have
no money every night go in and buy those cards
and a lottery taking. So I don't think it has
nothing to do with disposable income. I think it's act money,
badstone jet and should have gambled.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I spee some mm hm, you're right now. I see
people that put them.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I pray that it don't praise on the poor. Know
your one hundred percent right now, gambling, praise on the poor,
lottery tickets, Pray on the poor. That's fact. That is
a fact. Eaves Swords Radio, Great point, George, seven thirty seven.
When we come back, I'm gonna let you listen to
win a horse and a few guys discussing this issue
with gambling in the NBA. Eavestwards Radio. I'll talk to
(27:11):
you in a minute.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
We're absolutely right, Rich. The NBA at some point is
going to have to explain why Terry Roseier was allowed
to keep playing. And I just want to point something out.
The sports books caught the irregular, irregular betting on Terry
rose here the day it happened, the morning it happened,
when all of a sudden, there was hundreds of thousands
of dollars coming in on terror Rogier unders for a
(27:33):
relatively meaningless game in November, I'm sorry, in in March,
involving the Charlotte Hornets. The sportsbooks caught it. They told
the NBA right away.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And guess what.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
The NBA Rozier didn't play the rest of the season,
and he had faked the injury, so it wasn't because
of the injury. The NBA pulled them. They pulled John
Tay Porter too. They flagged Johntay Porter and pulled Johntay Porter.
The NBA's measures there, you know, their their comple want
you know their their their their protection measures, the sportsbooks
protection measure.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's triggered this.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
They caught it. The issue I think is, you know
John Tay Porter, they caught convicted and tossed him out
of the league within weeks. Rogier didn't. And this in
this investigation. And I don't know if Terry Rogier is guilty.
The NBA obviously didn't feel that he was. They wouldn't
have let him play. But this indictment implies that there
was a swath of conspirators. There was like his cousin,
(28:26):
his cousin's friend, I mean all the way down to
like low level guys who won money on this bet
and then immediately.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
They bet on other games. Thank you. So I just
wanted everyone to hear that aspect so that you would
know what was transpiring. Let me get to Joe George
and I'm a throw it to you, Joe. Welcome to
the Sports rad Are you good morning? Jerry?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Enjoyed your show and thanks for clarification on Terry Rozier.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Appreciate that they blame me for everything, Jerry, since you since.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You came off bunseled boulevard right.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Corrected that, but not anymore. I'm gonna be be honest
with you. I'm not not anymore. I'm just not anymore.
I'm really.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Anyway, Hey, I want to do this. I want to
bet the games this week for you.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Let's go Texas and Texas A and m A.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
L s U do at LSU, right, they're playing l Terry.
I'll take l S Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Can you give me your score?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Score twenty four to twenty one?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Okay? Never, I mean people have taken LSU. You're fine.
UCLA at Indiana. I just need the winner Indiana. Oh,
miss at Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Okay, tough James Boys Club at Louisville.
(29:55):
That's a route.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'll take a little.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Missouri and Vanderbilt excuse me, Tennessee at Kentucky, Tennessee, Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Uh yeah, I'm gonna have to take the fighting Wolves. Unfortunately,
I know you old Rocky time.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love it. Had to give it to you. Missouri
at Vanderbilt. Missouri and Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I'm gonna take Bandy all right, I've got you.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Thanks for listening, all right, great, thank you for listening.
Got you. So, so George, go ahead, I'm doing it
to you before I get to my next calling. What
do you think you got to a little bit to
win horse speaking about it? The family ties is the
issue why the NBA is gonna have some some egg
on his face, they say, because of the family ties.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Right, Well, you know that's one of the hardest aspects
of mom. Don't realize by being a pro is how
you have to pick your pen and help people that
really made say they hate you. But Jerry, you got
to have people that got your best interest at heart
at all times and can talk to you and pull you,
pull your call and tell you, look what you're doing,
(31:12):
Look who you're running with, Look what the answering you
to do. Because you have everything to lose. They have
nothing to lose, Jerry, And people don't know that. It's
just like right now we're talking about John Said, Billups
and Terry Rogier, and there's thirty other people that is
guilty is them, and we don't have a clue who
they are. So when it comes out and you're asthuleally, Jerry,
you will be recognized first. So you got to really
(31:34):
be close to who you run with and where you're going,
what you're doing at all times, because there's somebody with
a camera trying to bring you down at any point.
They can exactly and sometimes people that push you for that.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yes, yes, yes, and where again, these are only allegations.
We're gonna have to wait and see, but the information
that they do have. And Georgie, as you will know, Georgia,
we play about things. But George says, first talk, first walk.
Their people are talking. Trust me, people are talking.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I'll tell you that at all time. Ja, that's how
his name.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah mm hm me. First talk, first walk, which means
when that FBI sit you down and says we have things.
The more you give us, the less time you'll do.
People start to talk, that's all there is to it.
Then they have to find the proof to go with
the conversation, and if they do, they'll move to that person.
So we'll have to wait and see. We do. I
hate it. I do have one more person on the line,
(32:34):
Is that right, William?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Adam?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Do I have Adam? Yes, let's see Adam. Welcome to
you Sports Radio. How are you?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
I'm going five?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
What's that Adam?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
We love Adam enough to speak to us. Yes, we
look at him, Adam. Just call us back. Let's go
to break William. When we come back, we're going to
listen to one work I want to try to hear.
I want you to have all the year well the
(33:11):
sports radio, one of these five YEARO two s nine hundred.
We try to tell you all the truth. We do.
It's not always popular, though, talk to you in a
minute your listening to sports talk seven nine days.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
How do you get players who are making millions in
some cases to get involved in something like this? You know,
I don't think you understand the level of gambling among
professional athletes, even college athletes. And I've been doing this
for thirty years since they recruited me. All the leagues
recruited me out of prison, you know, back in nineteen
(33:44):
ninety four, because they knew they were having such a problem,
and I had a number of bookmakers working for me.
The FBI filled them in on that, so they chose
me to come and speak to the players and try
to dissuade them from getting involved with organized crime. You
don't realize, you know, gambling is an extension of their
competitive nature. It raises the stakes and the competition these
guys get themselves in so much trouble it doesn't matter
(34:06):
how much money they make. And you know, let me
use Michael Jordan as an example. There was a time
when I said Michael had a real gambling problem because
he gambles on everything. And I've witnessed it in certain
cases when I was working with the NBA. But you know,
he came out in that thing that he did the
documentary on him, and he said, you know, I don't
have a gambling problem. I have a competition problem.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'm not shocked what I Shoe Bill appreciate that. Welcome
back to the sports radio. I just wanted to make
sure that was a professional gambler that was imprisoned over it.
He ran a ring, he had players on his payroll.
The NBA hired him to come speak to the players
to try to stop and the gate. What was going
(34:47):
on with the gambling issues that we have, George. We
got Scout on the line, Scott, no more calls. I'm sorry, guys,
it's packed up, Scott. Welcome to the sports radio. Are
you Jerry?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I'm doing good about yourself.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
You know, lim Lim, I find that say about two
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You're ready study. You get your scores in yes, sir ready, yes, sir, yes, sir,
Texas A and M A L s U Texas A
M at LU.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I'm gonna go A and M twenty eight twenty four.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And that may be taken. I don't have time to
check it. If not, I'll call you back. Oh miss
at Oklahoma. Excuse me, s U c L at Indiana, Indiana,
Oh missing Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Uh, that could be a good game at in Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Yes.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
In Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Boston College at Louisville, Boston College at Louisville, your favorite team.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
As much as I hate say this, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Go with the old Birds.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
There you go, just going to say converted Tennessee at Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
You know what, I'm that that that tea in front
of that shirt is Kentucky's kryptonite. But I think this year,
I gotta go to Kentucky this year, after what they
played when they played last weekend. If I am, I'm
gonna go in Kentucky. If Kentucky will have took the
(36:32):
bag off pipes last weekend that had a win on wan.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Boy the same, thanks Gotty, Oh my god, you left.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
At Vanderbilt I'm gonna go bandy, gotcha, I got you, Cat,
I got to get one more person. Take care of
Welcome to the sports right now, take care YouTube. He
dropped David Welcome, he dropped great. Okay, So look, guys, George,
(37:13):
just really quickly, your Central football coach Marvin had an issue,
as you well know. I sent it to you and
I know you knew about it. But he had an
issue that the band was playing during the Sales game
and he and the principal fell out, and George, I mean,
things went south quick at Central High School. So what
we'll do Monday, We'll give it it to do George,
(37:36):
We'll give it to we'll talk about coach of Danzler
and what happened at Central. I don't think he's coaching today.
He and the principal, doctor Compton, fell out, and elect
director Steven Seghal fell out. I know he met with
doctor April Brooks, my niece, who runs the Justin County
School System's ADS. So I don't know. We'll maybe we'll
(37:56):
have more information on Monday. So maybe best that we
hold it to money, right.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I kind of sense something then. I told your game
before last year against Covenant uh, coveing the homes.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I'm not sure what I know.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
It was a covening team they played, but it was
kind of out of getting kind of wacky over you
know what I mean. I watched it for me talking
to the young man, kind of crazy, but I you know,
I didn't know it was to this extent. So let's
let's wait till Monday and we can do some more
research and I try to get some more research done
exactly and see who we come up with.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
There you go, No, I think that's a smart thing
to do. Tonight's game Kentucky Purdue. I mean, what a
weekend Kentucky that Purdue basketball Tennessee at cant I mean,
can Purdue at Kentucky basketball Tennessee and Kentucky football. We've
got Louisville, which I can't wait. I can't wait to
watch mister Brown play. I'm really excited to watch this
(38:48):
kid play. I mean, I'm truly pumped. So Joe, We've
got a lot of great things. We've got Major League
World Series starts tonight and the NBA. He is phenomenal.
People that oh Wemby's Wemby. What about Shake Gildings? Your boy?
You called him out first. George, I'm giving you your
(39:10):
Duke fifty five.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I told you when I seen him the first time, Jared,
he was magic.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Boy fifty five. Shake Gildings, Alexander. I mean, guys, the
NBA is on fire. We just have this information. Eves
Swartz Radio. I love you all, but honestly, the truth
must be told. No more phibbing. We have issues and
we have to get them. Try to help our players
get them straight. This is Eve Sworts Radio. I'll talk
to you all that
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