2025-5-14 EAVES

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
You have to love the laugh. Welcome back to EVE
Sports Radio. It's May the fourteenth, twenty twenty five. May
has blown by, the Kentucky Derby has blown by. We
have the Preakness coming up this weekend on Saturday, so
we'll be speaking about horse racing more this week. But
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(00:25):
Sports Radio is five zero two five seven to one
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This is Sports Talk seven ninety KRD.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We do.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
We've got a new person in. We've got William sitting
in with us today. William, welcome aboard. You're not a newbie,
but you're close. Shannon's still close to you, so you
still got all your backup that you need.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
But welcome to Esports Radio. And I appreciate you coming
in with you.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Appreciate you analogy me. Shannon's holding my hand here in studio,
so hopefully all exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
We're gonna break you in slowly, that's all we you.
But no appreciate you coming in. And of course Shannon's
definitely the best, but I'm not frightened of him. We're
gonna get in the ring one day, William, I'm gonna
have to dethrone the champion. But I don't know when that.
Days don't come, but it's going to come. So anyway,
we're gonna move on from that. So let's get into
the show. Let me know, is my younger son called

(01:20):
in yet, William. Let's to bring Anthony Eaves to the show. Anthony,
how are you.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
The fact that you still a question if I'm calling
in on times? Just almost a little disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Anthony, wire you with us? Can we hear you own home? Anthony?
That's all I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
You not hear him at all. I have not heard
a word that he has said. So anyway, I'll just
keep talking. Anthony. Just tell Anthony to continue talking until
we get it fixed. But I do not hear Anthony.
So it is seven o eight and this is what
we have in store for you today. Once we can
get Anthony live, which we will, We're gonna talk a

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little bit about, of course, Pete Rose and major League Baseball.
It has its issues. We know that major League Baseball
has had its.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Issues, just like a lot of sports. Anthony, are you
with me? Sounds like I heard a click, but.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yep, I'm here, I was here before it. I don't
know what was going on.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I hear him now, thanks Shnny, Yeah, I hear him.
Now you're doing, Anthony, I'm doing well about yourself. Good
now that I can hear, I'm doing doing good.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
So what we've got up today and everyone knows yesterday
huge news is that Pete Rose and numerous others nineteen
nineteen White Sox Chicago White Sox, which you're not far
from their stadium, Anthony, just one hundred years later.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
But I had gambled on the World Series and shoeless
Joe Jackson has an opportunity, just like Pete Rose, to
be admitted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Okay, And
we've talked about this subject, Anthony, you and I have not,
but we've talked about this subject on this show, I
mean numerous times. Is a hot topic. It's one of
the things that makes baseball. It lights it up, Anthony,

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it really does. So I was talking with William, our producer,
and he asked me what I thought, and we've got
a tape that we're going to play. But again I
said that I believed that Pete Rose should be in
So William, I want you to give me, give the
audience your reply to me. Don't be scared, tell them
what you said, and then I'm going to start to talk.

(03:36):
It was a great conversation. I'm going to reply back.
I'm going to answer your questions, and then we're going
to listen to a little audio tape from some of
the ESPN talking heads. So, William, your opinion, you're a
Cincinnati read you live in Cincinnati, of that is a
correct statement, Coreg Williams.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, I'm from northern Kentucky. I've grown up a Reds fan.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, your opinion? Should Pete Rose be in?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Pete Rose is the great hitter of all time. He
has Hall of Fame talent and accolades or hall of fame,
But the number one rule in baseball is don't ruin
the integrity of the game. It was set with Shoeless
Joe back in the day in nineteen nineteen, as you mentioned,
and I feel like, I mean, there's a lot of
other stuff you can criticize him for for not being
in the Hall of Fame, and that's almost a different conversation,

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but he ruined the integrity of the game. I don't
get how you can allow a person in to the
Hall of Fame with that.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Okay, great points. Now, yes, there's two sides to Pete Rose.
There's three.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
There's the baseball aspect, the hardest playing guy, the most
hits in Major League Baseball history, running through catchers during
All Star Games. There's no question that when you're talking
about the integrity of the game, and we have a
lot of issues with players today that.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
We do not as older players.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'm an older NBA player that we say a lot
of players do not respect the game because they don't
play every game, will you. They don't play every play,
They take plays off, they take games off, they load manage.
That was Pete Rose. He played every game. He played
every game like it was his last. He was a

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very good baseball player, very good. That's first sight. The
second side is the gambling aspect. I told you and
a lot of people have said that. You know, he's
a perpetual liar. It took him a long time. I
think when he finally admitted it was January eighth of
two thousand and four when he admitted he'd bet on baseball.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, and that was on ESPN this morning.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So yes, from nineteen eighty nine, fifteen or so years before,
he admitted that he had bet on baseball, and I
did agree with Major League Baseball that he did with
the proof that they had shown that he had been
on baseball. The only thing that I said is that
I did not see where he was fixing games. He
was betting on his team to win. From what was
given to me and what the little I know about

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Major League Baseball, that's where I got that. So that's
the second aspect. If he was ever betting to lose
games throw games, I would have thought differently, I really
would have. That's the second piece. The third piece is
of all the off the field tax evasion. Again, we're
gonna stay with it. He went to jail for tax evasion.

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I'm gonna stay away from the nineteen seventy issue with
the young Lady Again. A lot of things were thrown
out about his personality that weren't good. So you've got
three facets of Pete Rose Anthony. I'm gonna throw it
to you before we listen to the audio tape. Those
these those three facets are true hardest playing baseball player

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than I probably have ever seen. If you say respecting
the game. By the way that he played, you'd have
to put him in the top five, top four. The
other two issues are true. The gambling is one true.
Coach Beard, I spoke to him last night and he says,
now the times have changed and that people can gamble

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on professional sports. I said, Coach, that's true, but still
not the players and college players are not supposed to
be able to also, so that part has not changed.
Will you mean you're correct on that aspect? What do
you think, Anthony on Pete Rose's stature? Should he be
admitted in two Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame? There
are three pigs. He's got a stool with three pegs.

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One is phenomenal, with the other two are questionable. What
do you think you know?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
There's been so much controversy in baseball with mean obviously
his gambling issue and a couple of the fastest he
had going on. But until at the same time, there's
players as even been in modern baseball, and even the
last fifteen to twenty years has have the same dilemmas
and similar issues. I've still gotten admitted into the Hall
of Fame. He got guys from using steroids, performing enhancing drugs.

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So if you're going to ban somebody for those two things. Betting, yes,
I know it's permitted, But at the same time, if
you're betting against baseball, that wasn't really tarm funishing the
game at all. I don't see I don't see like
I say, I don't sit here and see an issue.
But I don't see why I should stop them from
getting into the Hall of Fame. That has nothing to
do with his performance that he did on the field.
I think that the Hall of Fame that they do,

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they base the Hall of Fame more off of how
your entire lifestyle is rather than just what you're doing sports.
We've seen it in other sports too. They do it
in the football and basketball all the time. Would be
NFL players should be the players that.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Have met dude, Now, great point, should they? I'm gonna
ask Anthony, should they? Let's just sit back. As a
firm NBA player. I'm fairly conservative, Anthony, with my aspects.
You know how I raised you. I'm fairly conservative. But
again there's certain things that I am Should players be
paid in college without a doubt, I don't care anybody says,

(08:47):
nobody's gonna get me to say no, without a doubt,
they should be paid period. Does America have problems with
when the last person on the total pok gets paid? Oh,
without a doubt, they lose their mind all of a sudden,
the games going to go away when the last person
on the totem polk gets paid. That's the American problem,
bottom line. First one to it once at all, they

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take claims to it. Then when they have to give
up any of it, they say there's an issue.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
That's the second thing.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
So I'm not conservative in that, yes, And I'm getting
notices again that they can't pick it up on stream
the show guys, just to let you all know they're
hitting my phone. So that is another issue. So William
Anthony says, should the Hall of Fame be based on
their entire life? Your opinion, what do you think? Or

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should it be based on what they've done on the
baseball field.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
There's a lot of horrible people, but great ballplayers and
there's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Without a doubt, they're in the Hall of Fame without
a doubt.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think you got to judge.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
All basketball, football, all the sports, all at hockey.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
There are a lot of bad people in the Hall
of fame.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
And there's a lot of great guys were horrible ballplayers.
So I think you just got to look at the
game itself. What have they done to contribute? You can
ask like to the growth of the game. You can
look at some off the field stuff, but I think
you have to look at the accolades itself and what
they have done within the game.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay, and if we do that, there's no question Pete
Rose should be in on what he did on that
diamond in the infield, outfield, base hitting, stealing the whole
nine yards, sprinting in and out onto the field before
games and at the end of eight inning. Well, let's

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play the tape before we go to break at seven seventeen,
let's play the tape. We're gonna listen to a little
bit of ESPN's analogy of what they think is transpired.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
And again we all have known.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Here's the bad part, guys, that when Pete Rose died,
he was going to get in. So he's not in yet.
They just lifted He has the opportunity now to be
voted in December twentieth, December of twenty twenty seven, he
has the opportunity. The Classic Era Baseball Committee again, they're
the ones. The Classic Era Baseball Committee is the one

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that can let him in, not the commissioner. But I
do want you to listen to a little bit of
ESPN before we go to break.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Seven months after his death, he Rose is off Baseball's
an eligible list. Now he's eligible for the Hall of Fame.
Commissioner Rob Manfred lifted the permanent ban on the all
time hit cap that's imposed in nineteen eighty nine when
Major League Baseball found that the Cincinnati Reds legend had

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bet on his sport, end his own games.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
One of the game's greatest players has engaged in the
variety of acts which have stayed the game, and he
must now live with the consequences of those acts.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
In nineteen ninety one, the Hall of Fame and acted
a rule to keep out Rose and anyone banned from baseball.
Over and over, Rose denied having gambled on the game,
including his games while manager of the Reds. Then in
two thousand and four.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Did you bet on baseball? Yes? I did, and that
was my mistake not coming clean A lout earlier.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Actually, the man nicknamed Charlie Hussel never came clean. The
seventeen time All Star maintained he never bet on baseball
while still a player, but in twenty fifteen, ESPN on
Earth evidence of Roses bets, including on the Reds as
their player manager. Months later, Manfred rejected Rose's reinstatement request,

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citing an unacceptable risk of a future violation and to
the integrity of the sport.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Tell you think I was al Capone, I'm Pete Rose.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
I am the biggest winner in the history of sports.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Am I going to go to Hall of Fame once
I die? How am I going to know? Breaking news
into SportsCenter.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Pete Rose, baseball's all time hits leader, who was banned
for betting on the game, has died at the age
of eighty three. Rose's posthumous reinstatement doesn't wipe away stains
on his legacy, like a woman sworn statement in twenty
seventeen accusing him of statutory rape decades earlier and federal

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prison time in nineteen ninety for filing false tax returns.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
President Donald Trump says he plans to pardon the late
baseball legend Pete Rose. The President made the announcement yesterday,
criticizing Major League Baseball for barring Rose from the Sports
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
In the last month, President Trump met with Manfred but
Rose's Hall of Fame fate is not up to the commissioner.
Rose will presumably be on the Hall's Classic Era Committee.
Ballot voters are told to consider integrity, sportsmanship, and character
their next scheduled vote. December twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio seven five got Anthony.
Of course, we've got the newbie William behind the glass.
Anthony complicated subject. I've already gotten forty nine to fifty
people have already liked.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Should Pete rose By in the Baseball Hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
My opinion is yes, I'm going off of baseball, the
game of baseball.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Why I watched him, why I knew him, was.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Before the way he performed on the baseball diamond.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Now, as I matured and aged and started to see
the issues and the issues he had after baseball, I
started to see that he had a checkered past. Yes,
I have a friend that's really close friends with him,
Kevin Chrisman, who you all know is the sports memorabilia
guy that has given me great gifts. But he knows
Pete well, and he knows about his past and has

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spoken with numerous signs about it, and of course Pete
tried to as he aged, everyone does, people mature, but
he does have a checkered past, so guys. End result
is when baseball opens it up. I still think that
the sports writers will vote him. No, I don't think

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they'll let him in. My opinion, I think he should
be in, but I do not think I think that William.
They will stay with what you consider the integrity of
the game, which is correct. Gambling on baseball does damage
the integrity of the game. Especially in my opinion, all
gambling is incorrect. But when you're throwing, if you were

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throwing ball games, if you were not playing your best,
and again, I don't know. I just know the evidence
that I've read from Major League Baseball that he was
never gambling against his team. But you're one hundred percent
Corregt William. I don't know that to be a fact.
If someone does, I like for him to call in.
If someone has some information about did Pete Rose gamble

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against his team when he was a player coach for
the Reds is an issue that I have. Yes, he
gambled as a player, and he gambled as the player coach. Yes,
he did so, guys, that's about it. Anything else, Anthony,
you got anything to add? I just hate that. In
one of Pete Rose's interviews, he said, I will probably
get into the Major League Hall of Fame after I die,

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but I won't know it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Does anybody?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Does anybody feel sorry for Pete Rose? Last question, William,
do you feel sorry for him? Or did he make
his bed?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I don't really feel sorry for him. He made his
bed and he chose to live in it.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Hey, that's two.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I mean, when you make your bed, you have to
live in it. That's a piece of it. Anthony, what
do you think you feel sorry for people? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I mean I agree, it's kind of simple. You know,
you can't make all the wrong consequences and then you know,
expect everybody just to get over and forgive you. Sometimes.
I mean sometimes people they just hold grudges and that's
the way that their standards and regulations are and you
just got to live with it.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, there are rules, guys, We do have rules, and
they're there for a reason.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I mean, I hate that I'm being a softie for
Pete Rose because I'm usually not. I'm usually the guy
that says.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Hey, it is the rule. That is the rule.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I've had this. Let me tell you. I asked people.
One person said, O J. Simpson got inducted to NFL
Hall of Fame nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Got me.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
I just want him to know that the Nicole Brown
Simpson case didn't break until nineteen ninety four, so he
was admitted before those issues. Now there were issues they
with domestic violence throughout some of his marriages, but you
know that's all.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Okay, thank you, William. We'll bring on the next college.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
So I just wanted to make sure I answered that
he was in the NFL Hall of Fame before the
Nicole Brown Simpson stabbing. Okay, So that's all that I'm
gonna say on that. When I just wanted to answer,
that was one of the things I got. So let's
bring ran to the show. Roan, Welcome to the sports radio.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Are you hi?

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Jerry there? Are you all this morning?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Good? Good talking a little baseball, that's all.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Yeah. So I'm not calling in to defend p Rose,
but what I am calling in to do is question
you know, the word integrity, character and all that that
the empires to be in baseball. Bring up their character
and their integrity is what I questioned. And here's why

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we're going to take on Pete Rose, was Joe Jackson,
because that's just one individual you know too well to count.
Choose Joe, but we refuse to take on the steroids
and the people the integrity of the games. Don't tell
me the integrity of the game. Was it affected by
the use of steroids and all the home runs that

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were hit and the multiple stars that was involved in that,
and they put them in the hall. So you know
what those are called hypocrites. So I don't want to
hear them talk about their character and the integrity of
the games. They need to look in the mirror and
question their own integrity in their own character because they
don't have the guts or the backbone to take on

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that problem. So that did, in fact, that affected the
game too big, in a big way, in a big
way that they were too And I think it's absolutely
obscene and disgusting that they chose to let this man
in the Hall of Fame eight months after he died.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Have the apportune No, that's and Pete Rose said that.
There's the audio Pete Rose saying, watch guys, I'll get
in the Hall of Fame and won't know it. There's
an audio of that. I listened last night. You're now
that's the part ron because yes, they were passing those
things out like like skittles. They're hitting home runs. So
they're hitting home runs by the droves and everyone knew that.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Maguire, Barry, Bond and on and a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
So that part, Yes, they were trying to bring back baseball.
They were trying to revive baseball.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
We go to the trend that that didn't didn't affect
the outcome of games, of the integrity of the games.
It's so hypocritical, Jerry.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
But that's true.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
That's one guy.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's true, always, always, No, that's that is a fact.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I mean, that is one factual, and it's gone on
throughout sports for a long time to where it's easier
to put it on one person than it is to
put it on the facilities or the aspect of the game.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Let's just go back to guys.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Adolph Rup got killed for not wanting to play black athletes.
Supposedly he got me. I played the tape of Adolf
up after the game when they lost to Texas at
Colefield House, nothing but elegant, great things to say about
Texas West. Not one negative word got me, but the
n C double A and what the America wanted to

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put everything, everything on Adolf Rup when it was not
Did you try to go to Florida? Did people try
to go to Gainesville, Alabama? At the time they put
it all on de same deal? Exactly, No, exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
You just don't want to always sell the truth.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
And they.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Exactly they don't want to admit that it's easier to
place the blame on one person and wash their hands
of things then to look at totality. Great call, Ron,
no question, that's fact. That's why, guys, that's one of
the reasons why. And I should that I expect them
to put Pete Rose in. I do what he did

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on the field is deserving. If we're going to start
to judge everybody's off field behavior, oh guys, we're gonna
be doing it forever. I got no problem with it.
But let's just make the rules the same. If those
are going to be the rules, players, owners, managers, it's
got to be across the board, that's all. So, guys,

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we're at seven thirty three, we're gonna get to our
second break.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
When we come back, we've got a lot to talk about.
Of course, the NBA, which is where we're going to
go directly after this, and some great games.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Last night Eastwarts Radio. We'll talk to you in a minute.
Welcome Sports Radio. Thank you for the dialogue. Conversation on
Pete Rose. We'll have to wait and see December of
twenty twenty seven, we'll find out when the Classic Era

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Baseball Committee gets together and see if they would admit
Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson and numerous others into
the Baseball Hall of Fame. Now, let's get with it, Anthony.
We watched, when we watched the Calves go down, I
did not watch the Thunder come back and get the Nuggets,
but I did select. I thought it would be the

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Thunder and the Calves and the finals this year and
the playoffs started.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
That's what I had predicted.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I'm staying with that prediction, even though we know the
Calves are out. Let's start with the Cavs game first, Anthony,
what do you think what transpired? What has to happen
for the Calves and Donovan Mitchell to ever see if
he can advance to win a World Championship.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I think at this point, I think it's just a
mental game. If you've watched the series, you watched it
out the regular season, the physical ability and the capabilities
of winning games, and I think getting to that next
level is there. I just think the mental aspect, he's
still going through a couple of bumps in the road
to where he's not fully checked in all the way.

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We saw it, even on that player when he gave
when he slowed down on the layer to let Miles
turn to Blocket, that one play alone showed a lot
about that entire season, about their entire playoffs. It just
didn't make.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
Sense the game before, in Game four, when Darius Garland
was out, he was splitting the lane, splitting double teams
and Duncan on Miles Turner, and then he's on a
fast break layer wide open by himself. In game five,
slows down, shoots an underhand layup and gets a pint
off the backboard in a close game that it just
didn't make sense. I don't know what's going on through

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his head. I don't know if that game four lost
when he had forty eight points, he strained his calf
a little bit, and they still lost.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
I think his brain just kind of mentally checked out
after that, because I feel like when you that's a
game where I feel like he put one hundred and
ten percent in and the outcome wasn't what he expected.
And I just think it just that was that was
his his his NBA championship right there. That was his
Eastern Conference Finals game.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
That was all. I think that was.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
All he had left in the tank. I think he
was just out of stamina too. I think it was
another thing.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yes, conditioning. Okay, Anthony, I agree with you that play.
We were watching the game that play. I couldn't believe it.
I'm being honest with you all. I just couldn't believe it.
You just hit the gas, you jump, you put the
ball off the glass. You don't have to dunk it.
But with his athleticability, which we've seen, you put your
hand and ball on the backwards. Soon he's release it.

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They can't touch it as a basket. And when he
slowed down to a walk and let the man running
down and block the shot in a huge game that
had to be won at home boy, maybe go gosh,
something is just not there.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
When I started.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Speaking with people and of course, I always called Coach Beard,
numerous other guys that I know have been in the
league a long time and start to ask them their opinion,
and everyone's in the same place. Coach Beard said, when
he came out of University of Louisville, we couldn't believe
he got drafted as as he did.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
No one did.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Everyone was expecting him to go late first round, early
second and ends up being fourteenth pick in Utah. Then
the best player he played with, Hayward, gets hurt. Brendan
Hayward from Butler. He has an opportunity to step in
his first year and shoot a lot of balls, plays well,
average seventeen a game. He has a six time All
Star in his eight years in the league. Can't believe

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he's been in the league eight years. I can't believe
Shay Gildies Alexander's been in the league seven years.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
You will.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
When I started to look at these things trying to
research what's going on. My opinion after looking at stats
and all the things, Donovan Mitchell cannot be your best player,
that's all. And that's not a slap, guys. Let's just
be honest. Look at all the champions that we have

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you Kyrie and Lebron. You've got Lebron and Dwayne Wade.
You have Dwayne Wade and Shaq. I mean, guys, that's
not a slap, it's just a fact. I just don't
think that he can be your best player on your
team and you go very far in the playoffs. He's
a perimeter player, and he's an inconsistent three point shooter. Okay,

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he's very streaky, so say things. Looking at his Chris
A Hole guys, six time All Star. He's a forty
four point nine percent field goal shooter. He's a thirty
six point three percent three point shooter. He's an eighty
four percent free throw shooter, even though he missed three

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big ones in a row, which goes back to that play, Anthony,
the play on the layup that when he didn't just
hit the gas and shoot the layup or dunk the ball,
what he did made go god.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
It really made I went god. I just like, what
was that? I just like, I don't know where his
mind had gone.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
But in my opinion talking to people, I just think
that the Cavs are going to have to get a
better player. He has to be your second best player,
not your best player, not your rally call that person
that leads your team, that Kobe Bryant mentality, that Michael Jordan,
Bill Russell mentality, that Magic Johnson Larry Bird mentality.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
That's that didn't come around all the time. That Stephen
Curry mentality. Guys, it just doesn't come around all the time.
Really really really good player. Donovan Mitchell, I mean, unbelievable
player and much better than I expected. That's why I
give him credit. I didn't think that Donovan Mitchell would
have the career that he has.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
That's why I wanted to go back and look, because
I've said on the show, Anthony volume shooter, the shooting
percentage as good as anybody in the league. It stacks
up with anybody's in the league. Let's go to shake Gilligs.
Alexander's seven year career got me. He's a forty four
point six percent shooter. Donovan's a forty four point nine. He's,
when you're looking at totality, a thirty three percent, three

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point thirty seven percent three point shooter.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
His is better. Donovan's is a thirty six point six. Guys,
they're all very very very close. It's just I.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Don't think that Donovan can be your best player and
take you deep into the playoffs. And that's not a slap,
that's just a fact. A lot of players that needed help.
I think Cleveland needs to.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Add a player. William, Now you were throwing in your
two cents. What do you think? William? Do you do
you agree or disagree?

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Cincinnati guy Clean Cavalier straight up the street from you,
what do you think?

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I think Evan Mobley is a really good number two,
and he's developing into probably a star big man.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
He's developing.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
But I think you're only as good as your weakest link.
In the modern NBA, I think the Pacers are just
as significantly their floor is higher than the Cavs players
floor as a whole roster, this whole roster.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Well, Coach Beard threw that out to me talking about Denver.
He loves Joka and Murray, he says, but when they
lost their role players, they're having a hard time. They're
really struggling to do it again. William, you're a hundred
percent correct. There hasn't been a repeat in the NBA
in a long time. I don't think there'll be any
more repeat champs. I just don't think that'll happen. With

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the movement and the attitude of the players, I just
don't see that. Are the injuries of the players as
we see Tatum has gone down. I just don't see
it happening. I really don't. For some reason, it maybe
it could. There'll be a team. Everyone thought Boston was
gonna repeat this year.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Everyone thought Boston was young enough to do it again.
And after being snubbed when Brown was snubbed from the
Olympic team and Tatum wasn't played very much on the
Olympic team, that everyone thought that they would come back
with a chip on their shoulder and showed the league well,
I mean their style of play. I just ugh, I'm
still upset with the way that the Celtics play the
game of basketball. I really am so best of luck.

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I just think the Caves need to get a player.
And yes, Mobley's improving, and yes he was an All Star,
so it's Garland. But when you're talking about the true duo,
Donovan has never had a duo to where he could
lean or rely on somebody in his career at this time.
And let's be honest, guy, Shay Gildis Alexander hasn't either,

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and he's leading his team. So we're gonna watch and
see if Shaye who I believe, Okay s he's the
best team.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
And I'm expecting oka Se to win this thing this year.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I just thought it would be Cleveland and Okay, see,
I really did so, guys, we're gonna get to our
last break when we come back. We got a little
college football news. We've got to talk about college football.
And you weren't with us yesterday, William, but I had
to kill Bill Belichick. And now there's rumors, guys that
there is an issue in North Carolina with coach Bill
Belichick and his girlfriend. Watch radio, will talk to you

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all in a minute. Welcome back to the sports radio Anthony.
Last segment, I have to ask you this, William YouTube Anthony.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I've got to ask you this.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
How did Cooper Flag get to Dallas? Did the NBA cheat?
Coach Beard said they cheatd I just want to know
did they cheat? I'm happy, I'm happy for Niko general manager,
I am, But did the NBA cheat? How did the
Dallas Mavericks get Cooper? Now look at that team? Now

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look at that team. Hey, guys, Cooper Flag can play,
He's really going to be good. Give him a chance.
We've just had to say Donovan Mitchell's eighth year, Chake Gilligs,
Alexander seventh year, Give that boy two years. If Anthony
Davis stays healthy, Kyrie comes back with Cooper.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
What do you think, Anthony, What chances do they have
to be a major player in the West going forward?

Speaker 8 (33:05):
They they got.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
If they come back as a healthy team with Cooper,
Flag will be a top four, top five team in
the West in my opinion. And that's just going off
of just what I see now. Could they be higher
than that, Yes, but I'd send him at around a
four or five seed. But I can't sit here and
say it they actually cheated or not.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
We have no idea.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
But the first time, this isn't the first time we
haven't seen. We've seen the team with low odds of
getting them one pick, got it. I mean, we could
go back to even controversy, even when the Chicago Bulls
had a three point eight percent chance of getting Derrick
Rose who's from Chicago, and somehow got him for.

Speaker 8 (33:38):
The first pick.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
So it's it's not the only time we've seen It's like, oh,
he happens to be a hometown kid, went to see
me in high school. He went to Memphis and then
comes back to where he's literally born from and draft
as a number one pick to the Chicago Bulls with
a less than four percent chance.

Speaker 8 (33:53):
But we've those.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Balls are funny.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Those ping punk balls are funny, Anthony, They're funny. No,
I agree. I was just playing with you with the NBA.
But I'm gonna tell you what, just like I'm a
Donovan Mitchell fan, I am. People don't give this guy
his due, But I think now that they'll be able
to slide PJ Washington. PJ Washington down to the let

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him play the four three that Cooper play some to
Anthony got me. I think they're gonna be really good.
I think they're gonna be larger than people think. Give
Kyrie the ball, and I think they're gonna be pretty
dang good, even if you put Cooper at the three
and PG at the four, which means spacing the floor
good size. PJ is a great rebounder with Davis. I

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like what they have, Anthony, I really do. I love Lively, Anthony.
They could be big, athletic. They may be better than
people think I'm just being honest with you. I just
want to see the Mavericks come back healthy. That's all
Davis work out this summer. Beat one hundred percent healthy,
Kyrie come back. PJ Washington lively he was injured at

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the end of the year with Cooper Flag And they're
pretty good guys, They're really pretty good. I like their team,
I really do. So we have to wait and see.
The NBA always does funny things. That's all funny things.
Now here's what I have, Anthony. We haven't touched it,
but we're gonna hit it really quickly.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
What do you think.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
They were ranking the football coaches in the SEC, And
of course I always go to coach Stoops. A lot
of people have been really critical of coach Stoops and
the last few years they have been down not to
the level that they have played, but they have him
ranked the tenth best coach in the SEC. Of course,

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you know you got Kirby smart one, of course, no question.
Steve Sarkege in Texas to Brian Kelly at LSU three.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Again, you're talking about the Gauntlet.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
You're talking about the best of the best of board
at Alabama. Kiffin at Mississippi. I mean, you've got the
best of the best, man. What do you think Shane
Biember jumped to eighth from South Carolina? They had a
very good year. What do you think does Mark Stoops
need to be tenth out of the sixteenth in the SEC?

Speaker 4 (36:23):
He kind of has to be right now. I mean,
he's had a couple of good seasons, but his SEC
record has been a little up and down. It's been
kind of a roller coaster rit since he's been at UK,
at least over the last five years. Yes, he's no
the SEC coaches. He's kind of in the towards the middle,
at the bottom of the totem pole just because of record.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, I mean, well, here's the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Kentucky fans all right now, there are a lot of
Kentucky fans that say, now they want to make the
next move Anthony. I used to say no to facilities
or Anthony. They do have facilities craft Center. I've been
in the facilities. I've toured all Kentucky's facilities. It's not
Alabama level, but it's good. You understand me. They have

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good facilities. So I can't say that anymore. I just
don't know. Can the University of Kentucky jump through the
upper echelone in the SEC, which is the best and
the best conference in the country, is just the question mark.
That's I just don't think that they can ever. Maybe

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I don't want to say ever, but I just don't
see it in my time frame. It may, but I
think it's just a lot to ask. I don't know why. Well,
yes I do, because Georgia and Alabama and Texas LSU
It's a religion.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
That's all there is to it.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Guys, these schools, it is a religion. It's like Kentucky basketball.
For someone to say the Kentucky basketball is going to
drop to the middle of the end of the SEC,
it'll never happen. They'll fire every coach and move every player.
It just won't hap Anthony. It is religion. So sitting
at ten, I think is where a coach stoops should be.

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And there are seasons that he does jump to five,
and there are seasons that he's sometimes he's thirteen fourteen.
That's just gonna happen at the University of Kentucky. But
a lot of people think that he makes a lot
of money, Anthony, and he does that they should do.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
More now here's the comparison ant and William, I gonna
put you on the spot. I know we don't have long.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
They have a national ranking of coaches, and of course
the national ranking guys again says the same thing. Kirby
Smarts won, and I mean Brian Kelly and Steve Sarkegan,
they're all there. Starkegian's four, James Franklin's five, Danny Lanning
at Oregon is six. You know they've got Freeman at

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Notre Dame seven, to board at Alabama. Ah right, but
they have University Louisville's coach in that list sitting at sixteen.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Brohm.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Tomorrow, Anthony, I'm gonna ask you, because it's time we're done.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I'm gonna ask you, do you think.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
That's appropriate for University of Louisville Jeff brom To be
sitting at sixteen at his two years at University of Louisville,
And just think about this.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
They're one and one against University of Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Fair finally beat Kentucky last year one in one, but
they jumped him to sixteen out of the ACC, which guys,
is one of the worst football conferences and basketball conferences.
The last two or three years that there's ever been.
And we know that the Commisioner says things have to change.
We appreciate you man, great job sitting in with us. Anthony,

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get to work and I will speak with you God,
Willie and I'll be back tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Love you all, Bye bye,