Tom Payne Part 2 - 8/25/2023

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Episode Transcript

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I'll answer the question. You wantanswers. I think I'm entitled. You
want answers, what the truth?You can't handle the truth? Jerry Eves
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Sports Talk seven ninety Welcome back toEve's Sports Radio. It is Friday,

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August twenty five. I will besaying December twenty five. Oh God allows
me to see another one. That'sall. But it is coming like a
freight train downhill. It is Augustthe twenty five, twenty twenty three.
Yes, it is as warm asit's been all year. Be careful today.
But of course I told you allI would take three hundred and sixty

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five days like today and absolutely nowinner if I had my choice. So
don't let Jerry's choose. That's allI can tell you. Don't let me
choose, but be careful. Hydrateout there today it's going to be very
warm. We've got a lot toget to. Everyone always knows that.
On Monday and Friday, it's thatguy I don't like. He seems to
stick around. I try to abusehim. I tape him up, put

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him in closets, give him fakeagent telephone numbers to call for raises.
I do everything I can do,But for some reason, he likes insulting
me. That's all there is doing. It's Fred Sanford LaMotte, and this
time he's Fred Sandford. I don'tknow how that I'm supposed to be Fred.

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But we've got to bring on theone and only George Williams to the
show. Ring you hey, ringcaught it. Oh see, that's that's
the George I know, Matt JesSo you'll know, Matt, I just
talked to that boy five minutes ago. Not five minutes ago. Did I
hang up the phone with George Williams? So, see, Matt, that's

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what I'm dealing with when we dealwith George, not five minutes ago.
But he will be trust me,guys. Anyway, let me tell you
what we have. I saw allmy responses on my social media. I
understand all my telephone calls yesterday frompeople saying, without a doubt, one
of the best shows you've ever had. I told you all that with the

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Tom Payne true questions, real deal, his situation, his life story,
what a story. We'll be callingback in again today at seven fifteen.
There are two questions that I didnot get to yesterday that I must ask
him, which I'm going to askhim and he is going to answer.

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Like I told you all, there'sso much more to the time Pain story
than what I gave you seventeen points, ten rebounds at the University of Kentucky,
Atlanta Hawk basketball player see or serialrapist. There's a lot more to
Tom Pain, which you all wereable to hear, and a lot of
people told me directly they were supersurprised. I told you the oldest of

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nine, eight sisters and brothers.Just so you understand, fourteen total college
degrees out of the eight fourteen.There's a lot more to Tom Payin.
He explained to you all, growingup on a military base, he missed
a lot of the racism issues thathe ran into when he left. He

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is going to express to you all, this is not about the University of
Kentucky. He said, this wasthe South. This is the world that
we live in. He's going toexpress to you all that, of course
Kentucky being one of the first stateswe know. Vanderbilt we understand, but
Kentucky was right after that. Asfor welcoming African American athletes, took a

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lot of grief for doing something thatthe South was not going to touch.
No matter what our politicians tell ustoday, I don't know why they do.
We know the facts. Growing upin the South for African Americans was
not pleasant period. Guys. Idon't know why we're in an era right

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now. That Lyon is just it'sthe vitamin Piela of the morning, afternoon,
and night. It was not oncur Anybody tells you it was not
good. It was not It wasnot a benefit. It was not.
So Tom expressed that. But hesaid his days of Kentucky, which he
is going to say again. Hewants to make sure that people understand he

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has fond memories of the University ofKentucky, which we're going to talk about.
He be calling at seven fifteen.We all know that college football is
here of course Dublin, Ireland andNotre Dame's playing, and that's why they'll
never join the ACC and football,they're not going to share their revenue.
They're not going to it's about moneynow. They'll share the little basketball program.

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The irrelevant basketball program hadn't been relevancein Adrian Dantley, my teammate with
the Utah Jazz, and been relevantsince then. So we're going to talk
a little bit about the football andour contest, and Matt, I appreciate
it. Matt. I guess hewas talking to your agent, Matt,
but bring him on. I justbring him on. Bring on the you.

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I don't even know what it standsfor you. What do you want?
I just told him you that Isaid. I just honestly, I
talked to George. It's six fifty, So who are you talking to this
time? George? I have noagent to call, no time, and
nobody can came them. Some ofmy favs were calling me. Will ask

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me why I'm gonna be on yourshow to day and tell me why I
shouldn't come home, because you know, you really, you know, you
don't handle handle a candle to me, And I really bringing up your ratings
and they want me to stop that. I told him you were Fred's Handford.
I'm just I'm supposed to be Fred, George. I was supposed to
be Fred. Hey, George,you got one question me to do something

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easy. Took me an eye toget it done. Man. I didn't
tell him that part, George.I did give you an assignment that night.
That's okay. Yeah, man,let's get it to Just get it
to me, and you can't tome about five minute before we go,
heyge I think about did something outI did, George. I did so.

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I'm sitting on the radio. Yeah, exactly, George, and I'm
sending it right this minute, George. Everyone knows that, yes, Tom
Payne will be returning. But beforewe get to Tom, we're gonna take
our time with And I just sent. I just sent the question. George.
Sure. No, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no, George, Igot a question for you. No,

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George, it's high school football.Y'all played last week? You all is
y'all are central? Did you allscore? No, sir, we didn't
score. I've been waiting. I'vebeen, George. I've been waiting.
I don't know how I didn't getto you on Monday. George, you

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didn't score against Manuel George good goshChurch they had a new coach, Gillespie.
George, you didn't score, sowe didn't. We've been in score
and we gave him the bat atime that. Uh, it should have
been bad more than that. Imean, yeah, it really it really
was. Like the coach said before, it really wasn't a good play game.

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It was probably six turnovers in thefirst quarter. You know, you
could tell that the players not gettingthe actress. The rusted was between them
and stuff. It was. Itwasn't You had two of the best running
backs in the city of Louisville,and neither one of them really showed the
talents of the night. That's theone reason I went to that game is
because of the running backs and theywere so spectacler. But now Jared the
b had didn't get to get outthe other day. You know, we

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got ramed, we got we gotGeorge, but of the night, A
big game. Oh you know Iwill be there, George, come on,
you know you get couldn't win ithole? Yeah, oh mo.

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Teams wanting the author me. MayI played you and I come on?
They come on, they played Butler. Come on, that wasn't a football
team. You know. I gotpeople calling me we had a running clock
like the Butler. No, I'msorry, Okay, no, I'm not
going respect. Come on, Campbell'sVille ranked apponent beatty one thirty four in

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a good game. George. Weplayed poorly, but we still got their
w ranked opponent. George. Yes, any I think the Cobies are gonna
get bit tonight, and they gotbullso gonna buy a little bit about him.
Jay ain't gonna let go, George. I'm gonna be there, all
ballot gear on, hit to toe. Just want all male bulldog people to

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know. I'm gonna walk in likeyou would, George. The champions here,
beat the drup the champions here,George, Well you really can't say
that y'll didn't have no champ atbout the champions es Central the bulletgo,
I mean the yellow jackets. Okay, so don't behind the champions. The
Cobies are here, the copies thatcovers all right. We've got the pig

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farmers. The pig farmers. Seesee Tom Payne is listening to you talk
about ballot bruins as a big farmsee I told him what I was dealing
with. We're gonna go to break. I'll definitely go right quick. Let
me tell you, Okay, he'sgonna love discounts. Tonight I'm shooting the
seventy two uh Shinny class reunion andthe night So he's a shiny man,

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So he's gonna loves excellent. Well, George, you're gonna get used to
talk to him for sure, andeveryone knows when we come back from break,
I'm on again. Like I toldyou all yesterday, there's a lot
more to Tom Payne than the shinyhigh school great basketball team, the first

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African American in the University of Kentucky, seventeen points, ten rebounds. There's
a lot more to the package ofTom Payne. He's come times. Go
ahead, George, say one morething I played against Tom Payne. Why
he wasn't close rated? There yougo, Tom, We're gonna we're gonna
talk about that because Georgie's come outa completely different person, and we're going

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to speak with you in a minute. This is Eve Sports Radio. It
is seven sixteen. We're not takingcalls during the Tom Payne segment. I
just want everyone to know, butI am going to take them after we're
gonna talk a little bit about schoolfootball. We're gonna talk a little bit
about my college contest. And LeeSterling, the predictor, will be calling

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next Friday. I excuse me,I announced he was calling in this Friday.
It is next Friday. Let's getto break Matty Sports Radio. We'll
talk to you in a second.Welcome back to Eves Sports Radio. The
phone numbers five zero two, fiveseven, one seventy nine hundred. It

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is Friday, August the twenty five, twenty twenty three. Of course,
George Williams is with me, andI want to reintroduce to you all yesterday's
host co host of mine, excuseme, guest of mine, Tom Payne.
And I told you all yesterday thatyou would enlightened, and of course

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you were and surprised with the conversationthat I had with mister Payne. I
told you all stats yesterday. Butit's much larger than that I told you
all NBA draft pick. It's muchlarger than that. I told you all
the issues that he had. He'smuch larger than that with the rape charges,
much larger than that that he hastaken full responsibility for complete. He's

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much larger than that. Now hehas grown, he has chained as a
person. He spoke to me andmade me think about things I'd never ever
thought about ever, and I justwant to reintroduce him back to EVE Sports
Radio again. Matt, please bringon the Tom Payne to the show.
Tom, thank you for coming backhome with us. Appreciate your time.

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Hello, Hello Jerry. I justwant to thank you again and just send
my blessings and greet it to myKentucky family, Lorsville, Kentucky, and
all of Kentucky. No question.Daryl Payne told me that I would be
surprised who I spoke with, andhe was correct. I want to introduce

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you to George Williams, my cohost on Friday. George, this is
the Tom Payne. Hey time Idone, Sir. I met you before
in the last you know, Iknow a good friend of your cloud filment.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I heard you talking about Central

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y'all to quit it, man,oh Man, the home of the Glades
of all times, Ronnie Keys,there you go, Mohammad Ali. Yes,
sir, Now that is George Williams. That is the greatest time.

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Now, Tom, I just wantpeople to know that may have missed yesterday.
I'm just gonna enlighten them quickly ona lot of the things that you
covered, the difficult issues taking fullresponsibility going to the University of Kentucky,
the responsibility about being the first blackathlete there, which you said you were
not ready to handle. And Inever thought about this time until you told

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me that. I've said on thisshow George Williams, Butch Beard, my
dad, we spoke about it numeroustimes. We knew the States and the
South weren't ready. We knew that, we knew the schools weren't ready.
We knew that, but I neverlooked at it on the aspect that the
African American athletes weren't ready either.So all three came together in a collision

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course and a lot of things.There are a lot of fragments that came
from that because at the time,no one was prepared mentally for what they
were about to embark on. Iwas so glad you enlightened me on that.
Also your basketball journey. Racism nottouching you in the service was another
piece that your dad's service guy,my dad's serviceman one when thousand percent servicemen

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to the day died. And itjust the things that you inspired me with
your Adolph Up conversation, which I'mgonna let you start with. You told
me yesterday you wanted to say somethingto Kentucky fans about the University Kentucky.
Go ahead, Tom Well. Thething that I want to say about University
Kentucky is because that I've grown tolove the University Kentucky. You know,

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It's like you, Jerry. Youhad a bunch of beautiful experiences that we
all know your experienced at University ofLoisville. We all know what your accomplishments
was. And so as you getolder, you begin to look back and
make and reflect on your mistakes andon some of the things that you should
have did in life. And soI've grown along to learn to love,

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excuse me, the University of Kentuckyand Kentucky itself, my state where I
was born at. And so Ijust want the people of Kentucky to know
that how I feel about them.Although I live in Landsty, my heart
is still in Kentucky. I planto come back back to Kentucky to do
my Dream Warrior programs in Kentucky toinspire the youth in Kentucky, to help

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violence in Kentucky, to be apart of the violence intervention in Kentucky if
I can. So, you know, I just want the people to know
that I don't I don't walk aroundwith a bitter seed in my heart about
Kentucky. You know, Kentucky meansa lot to me, you know,
So I just I just really wantthe people to know and understand that not

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a problem. Secondly, we spokebefore the show the week before the show,
and we were conversating talking about ourfathers. But I want you to
tell people and I want you toreally slow down the moment you found out
that you told me that you're embarrassedthat I'm a basketball player incarcerated and you

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found out that wasn't the basketball player, it was Tom Payne. When you
found out that basketball is what youdid but not who you were. Could
you talk a little bit about thattown. Well, I will, Jerry,
but I'm gonna be transparent. Idon't want to insult anybody in the
day's climate, but I have tomention my faith, and my faith was

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my awakening. You know what whatthe Lord Jesus Christ has done for me,
How he My organization is called transformationalVictories, and that right there sums
it up my life. You haveto have victory in life, you have
to be transformed. And I hadto be transformed in my mind and my

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heart. And so through that process, my identification who I became, you
know, was not a basketball player. I'm mean I still to day I
marveled at basketball players and athletes andthat contribution to society, what they put
into their efforts to be great.But you know, you have a greater

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identification as a human being. Andso my identification is more or less a
biblical became a biblical identification. Youknow, I was made in the image
and likeness of God Psalms one thirtynine. I was fearfully and one will
be made. And so I beginto absorb and soak those scriptures into my

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mind and my heart to become soI could be become an effective human being,
a loving human being, a givinghuman being, a non hateful human
being. So I could rid myheart and my mind of the emotional toxins
that I had built up. Sothat's how my identity became about with my

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relationship with God. No excellent,and I want you to continue to talk
about that. When did when didthat moment come when you found Christ and
how did you Because a lot ofpeople are searching for that. Jerry.
Now you know, I don't wantto take up all the time in this
show, but give me start allthe time you need, you got all

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the time. So initially, Jerry, I went in the printer a broken
and bitter and scornful man. Iwas full of hate, confusion. You
know, there was a lot ofemotions that were that that that I had
to deal with. Shame, uh, degregating, humiliation of my situation.

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I mean, it's it's it's ait's it's it's it's a it's it's a
it's a really degrading thing for somebodyneed to call you a some of the
titles and things of your actions,the rape, murder or whatever that somebody
may call you a thief, adrug dealer. To me, if you

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were any kind of a human beingand you were raised any kind of a
positive way and that influence is inyour heart and mind in any kind of
way, when you follow in thosetype of situations through your actions, your
behavior, it really can utterly destroyyou. So my process was not really

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instantaneous. It took a while forme to to to really uh get into
my my my faith, my belief. I tried other things I've been I've
studied beauty, Buddhism, excuse me, I've studied is Glam. I've studied
uh various other uh philosophies about life. Uh even even communism like George Jack

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accident. I mean I read immenseand so uh. But ultimately I came
I came back to what my motherbelieved. And not because my mother believed
it. Because when I came backto Christianity, I found peace, you
know, and it helped me.It begin to help me navigate life,

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you know, it begin to helpme become a rational person. It began
to you know, I begin toabsorb the right principles into my heart.
Now with me, I was nevera religious person, so maybe that was
what God had designed for me.I became more of a spiritual person.
My journey was a self embarkment journey. I embarked on religion and Christianity myself

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and the darkest part of life.Uh so uh, that's where I think
where I began to become strong andand help and it helped me so that's
that's how I became aware of it. Uh. If you ever talked to
Jim Andrews, my spiritual brother,I played with him in Kentucky. When
I first met Jim, he cameto visit me when I was incarcerated.

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And we've since had a long,enduring spiritual relationship as men, and we've
we've encouraged each other, We've upliftedeach other. Jim has been one of
my greatest advocates and and and tellingpeople about me and my life. So
when he came in, he'll tendyou. You know, I was still

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kind of hard. You know,I was still kind of hard. But
when I heard about his story,how because I when when me and Jim
played, I never knew with Jim'sbackground, And when I heard that he
wasn't rich, he wasn't a richwhite boy. When I heard that he
didn't have everything he his way,when I heard that his brother they had

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passed away in prison, when Iheard some of the things that he had
went through, and just begin tochange because I had a point of reflection.
I went back and really reflected,why did I have the hated my
heart because people did what they didto me? You know, why was
I becoming what I hated? Youknow? And so I had to ask

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a lot of these sensual questions aboutmyself first, and then I begin to
ask myself, what could I do, what could I change mean? And
what could I bring society? Whatcould I bring people if I ever got
a chance, what gifts could Ibring them? And so I embarked on
that journey to develop myself, todevelop my heart so that when I did

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have a chance, I would beable to convey something that was intrinsic,
that was substantial, that was compassionateabout humanity, and that that that that
there are people that we have wroteoff that are doing the work. Now
everybody's not doing the work that thatthat that's incarcerated, But there are people

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that are incarcerated that are doing thesoul work, that that are grieving,
that are sorry for what they did, that they you know that where they
were at that time, they didn'thave the spiritual skills, the spiritual skill,
I would say it like that,the spiritual work awareness. They didn't

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have the moral awareness to act inthe way that they were supposed to act
against whatever that was ailing them.Right, gotcha time, amazing, You're
now starting, like you said,the Dream Warriors program, and then we're
gonna go to break after that,but I want you to take your time.

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We've got all the time of theworld. And then when we come
back, we've got a great questionabout today's era and this name, image
and likeness I'm want to talk toyou about. But tell me about the
Dream No, let's just hold.It's already seven thirty three. I'm gonna
stay because i'mnna use this show.Also, Matt take us away. When
we come back, I'm gonna askTom Payne two questions his Dream Warrior program.

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And then George Williams has got avery enlightening question about modern day basketball.
He wants to ask you. EveSports Radio PHONNABS five zero two,
five seventy nine hundred will talk toyou in a second. Welcome back to
Eve Sports Radio. It is Augusttwenty fifth, twenty twenty three. It
is seven thirty seven. Of courseI've got my man. He's sitting on

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Hold theories in the batter's box.He's up next a coach. George Williams
will be back. We have theTom Payne as a guest and Tom Mike.
I told you I appreciate you callingback in. I want people to
understand that yesterday you elaborated about arethe things that happened to you at the
University of Tennessee. You elaborated aboutthe tea traveled to where the team couldn't

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stay at the regular hotels they hadstayed in. Once you were placed upon
that team, You're elaborated about someof the behavior and some of the things
that were thrown at you when youweren't spiritory are mentally ready to handle the
situation. You elaborate about those things. So I just want people to understand
that it's easier to label Adolf Rupwas the racist. No, the South

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was the racist. That's a fact. No matter what people tell you,
no matter what our politicians say,they're not telling the truth. Butcher Beard
Tom Payne, before you ever cameon the show, said that he was
leaning to Kentucky. Everyone thought hewas going to Kentucky until his mother asked
Adolf er Up directly, will yoube able to take care of my son?

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And adolf Up said, I'm goingto do the very best I can
when we're traveling on the road.But miss Beard, it's very difficult to
some of the places where we go. That's when she's said after aid offer
Up had left because he was anhonest guy, he told the truth that
he was going to the University ofLouisville. Still, same behavior was happening
there. Don't you all think thatDrake was an easy place to go to

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in the places that they played inthe Missouri Valley. Don't you ever let
that. Louisvill fans don't jump upin beaches. I'm on the back said,
see sec don't do that. Louisville, don't do that. It's not
true. So Tom, now thatwe know your situation, talk to us
about your Dream Warriors program. Well, Dream Warriors came out of Transformational Victory,

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which is the main arm of myorganization. Is a nonprofit organization,
and Transformational Victory is about transforming livesfor young people and adults. I'm a
life coach and advert on what myown special label. I'm an adversity specialist.

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I help people navigate through adversity inlife, the hard times of life.
You know a lot, there's alot of life coaches, but what
we need is people that help peoplenavigate through adversity, the hard moments of
life. The hard times of lifewhere people don't have this the pad answers
to deal with life and they andthey're hurting. And so that's what I
do to my own personal experiences.So Dream Warriors just about the young people,

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helping them exactly what it says toto to focus on their dreams,
to focus on the higher purposes oflife, and what we do, Like
in December, we have one comingup in December. Here December, what
is it? December to sewod wehave another Dream Warrior conference. We had
one successful Dream Warrior Conference conference lastyear and it's a community effort. We

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have some of the best people inLancing working with me and my fiance Janet
Howard uh To to build a DreamWarrior program. We have pastors, we
have former state employees, we havepolicemen, and we we have the first

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actually one of my best friends inmy chief mentor here, a guy named
Ed Force. He's the first AfricanAmerican police captain here at Lansing and we
just have an absolute great relationship.He's on my committee. So dream waters
is just that we help young peopleto navigate and follow their dreams. We

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assist them with the education, theinformation, the inspiration, the things that
they need in life, the meetingpotatoes, some of them meet to potato.
These things we do. We bringin speakers from all walks of life,
people who have been successful, whocommit their time and energies to help
us to talk to the kids.And that's essentially what dream waters is.

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It's a prob him to really helpyoung to inspire young people on the positive
road, to help young people upliftthemselves. That yuh all, it was
me. All things are possible withGod, you know. So that's what
the dream Warrior is. That's it. Our motel is I will be some
I would do something great. Iwill be someone great, excellent. I

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want to introduce you to Matt bringGeorge Williams back. I want to introduce
you to George Williams. I'm sureyou all if you saw each other,
you would know each other. He'sbeen in the city for a long time.
Great individual, great guy, George. I want you to speak to
the time Payne. Hey, what'sthat time? How you dance? Hey?
How are you doing? George?Now? I can't complain time,

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great story, love what you're doingfor the young people on mean outstanding job.
Thank you. I really appreciate that, you know, I mean,
you know you made the difference.Brother, you made the change. You're
doing the things that you need tobe done. And this shows you know
a powerful guy. He can changeanything and anybody at any time. Yeah.
Yeah, Well, you know,we're in a society today that I

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always believe that there's so much comingat people. They forget the power of
God and what he can do inthe heart of people. And sometimes we
write people off. And and letme say this, there there are bad
things that happen and and and we'reall human humans. So when we see
those things sometimes it just puts justa bad feeling in our heart. And

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the individuals that do the things thatthey do that harm people, we have
a bad feeling towards. But youknow, I just want to I don't
want to be advocate for everybody,but I just want to be advocated to
some people that are doing the emotionaland spiritual work. There are people that
have made mistakes that can really comecan really be of value to us.
The lessons that they've learned, thatthe processes that they went through, they

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can help other people and also helpprevent other people from may be following in
the same situations that they fell in. What time I was saying that I
always tell my nephews and nieces andyoung people that I work with, I
say, God, sometimes let yousee other people so you can see what
you you shouldn't be or you don'twant to be, you know what I

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mean? And me all are thatperson, you know what I mean.
So that's what I use when Italk to people. So you know,
I say, we all snap,crackling pop that everybody gave me somebody,
you know what I mean. So, but what you're doing now and the
difference that you're making is the mostimportant thing I think out there. And
Jerry asked me to ask you aquestion time, and I heard you talking
about not being prepared for going toKentucky and the way that they put on

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you to go to Kentucky. Andyou know here lately that the NCA,
you know, they got the nilmoney that they can give, and the
young people are getting all this money, you know, and not prepared to
walk into this kind of money andthe lifestyle that they're gonna live. You
know, how do you think thatthis is gonna affects affect some of the

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poor young men whose family have notbeen prepared to have not had the kind
of wealth that they're walking into overnight. Well, to be honest, which
is going to be a lot ofpressure on a lot of people. And
some of them are gonna get theirresources and they're gonna misuse the resources.
That's just the fact they're not gonnahold They're going to consume it and not

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understand that it's been given as agift to them so that they could not
only help their families and themselves,but also to help enlarge other issues and
other people. And what sometimes theseyoung people do either their immaturity and the
immaturity of those around them who arenot particularly being the type of wisdom lights

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that they need to be, becausethey're consuming the resources on their flix,
on their selves to buy to havethings. They're consumed with things. Everything
is about having things. Who hasthe best car and who is getting these
luxury items, So they're more focusedon that than uh being able to use

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the compassion to help other people grow. So so it's going to be a
difficult thing. Some some some youngpeople who come from the right environment,
who have the right support system thatget this in the inn il money or
they will be all right, theywill do other acts and things. But
other other young people who haven't beenexposed to this type of lifestyle with that

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type of money, and because ofthat athleticism that they're getting this money there,
we know how they're gonna use it. They're going to consume it on
just on themselves and the things thatthey want. And they're they're more thing
ariented than human ariented because a lotof a lot of them men just taught

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that. That's what they come upin. Excellent. That's what I would
the house of time. Yes here, no guys in great conversation. It's
seven forty seven and time. Youcan stay with us if you want,
or you can leave. It's upto you. I want you to when
we come back, though, timejust your last point that you'd like to

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get out to the city, andthen time I have to and I can't
help it, but my school ballardplays mail. You know about the bulldogs,
and we're gonna beat the breaks offof them, and I have to
talk about it a little bit,So stay tuned. Tom Payne, George
Williams and Jerry's will be back ina second. Welcome back to EVE Sports

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Radio seven fifty August to twenty fifth, twenty twenty three, George Williams and
the time payin. Tom, tellme something. How do we get this
Warrior program to the city of Louisville. How long will that take you?
Well? My website is ww dotTransformational Victory dot org and uh you can

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contact uh uh my director Janet JanetHoward at five one seven seven one two
eight three one six. I'll saythat again five one step five one seven
seven one two eight three one six. Uh So uh uh we uh we

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will uh will will assess who callsand what their needs is in the community
for the young people, and wewill will bring we we we will bring
a whole program in uh of ofuh show them how to do the game,
speakers, we activities and everything.Okay, excellent, excellent, Tom.

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I just want to thank you fortaking two days out, two mornings
out of your busy schedule to comeout of EVE Sports Radio. I want
to I appreciate Darryl giving us theconnection. Anytime that you've got to get
something out, You've got my number. All you have to do is call
it. Matt will answer it andwe will get you directly on Like I
told you, I'm going to tryto make it. You told me December

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eighth one of your programs. Isthat correct? It's December second, Uh,
Karon Lasson and we would love tohave you. You know, you
know you can be one of ourspeakers if you want to commit to that.
Right now, we're looking for speakers, guest speakers. We have a
we have a great speaker. Idon't know if you remember him, but

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we just locked in Coach Garland fromms U Michigan State. He used to
work with Tom Hislo. He wasTom Hiszelo's chief chief assistant for many many
years. Wonderful, wonderful man.And he's going to be one of our
He's actually's going to give our keynotespeech for our Dream Warriors this time.

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Then we have Judge Cynthy Award.She's just a great great community service community
serving in this community. So ifyou want to hop in, I don't
want to do it on publicly foryou, because I with publicly. I'm
not frightened. I'm gonna have whenBlackburn check my schedule if I'm available December
second, I'm there. I've beenI told you, I've been to Lancey

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Michigan thousands of times I visited MichiganState. It was one of the teams
I was considering going to. WhenJed heat Tooth was the coach got me.
I was on the yes there yet, Edge Johnson, Greg Kelser,
j Vincent, I know him all. So yes, let me check my
schedule and I will get back withyou on Monday without a doubt. And

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we've got to get you to SaintStephen's here in Louisville. We've got to
get you back to Oh that Iwould love that. I would love that.
I would love that. Yes,So, George Tyme, here's the
problem. Now that we've got allthe business out of way. The greatest
of all times, Sady Xavier isgonna be a running clock. They're not

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gonna score, They're gonna get beata thousand. But the game tonight time
is Mail Ballard at Mail, andI'm going in beating the drum like Ali.
The champions here they don't know nothingabout to go. He got from
a pig suit times, the pigschool. He fends on a pig farm.
You know, I mean he wantsto call talk about football. He
knows nothing of football. Time.Who's time to chill our led gotta go

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get you know, and not changingtime. We're still fighting over the schools.
Nothing's changed, Tom, nothing,You know. I would say this
one time a time I'm gonna beat Chinese Semi two class of Union and

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not doing that pictures. You knowwhat I mean. I'll tell him I
talk to you. You know youjust love everybody around here. Go ahead,
Tom, I said, I said, just lo alone, everybody please
and give him, tell him,give him my hearts regard. I definitely
will. I definitely will. Nochrist Tom Payne, we love you.

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Take care of yourself. I willspeak be speaking to you on Monday.
I'm gonna have my schedule checked andI'll get my plane flight. Trust me,
trust me, I'm not if Idon't have a game. We will
be there wonderful, no question.Tom. You take care of yourself.
Have a beautiful day. Thank youGod, bless God, Bless you.

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Tom the Great Tim Paign. George, I told you one show was not
enough of that gentleman was not.We had to bring him back. He
had to be able to finish,which he still has so much to give
these young kids. He's George takingfull responsibility and like he says, everyone
incarcerated is not trying to do theright thing. That's not what he said.
People everyone's not says there are alot people that are and not knowing

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George that he'd be on this week. I go see my man keyantism Malone
last Friday, Remember great things incarceratedGeorge. I mean I didn't even bring
it up. I didn't tell Tomanything about mister Malone. I'm going to
George. We got one minute.Thank you, Matt. I'm going to.
But I didn't want to taint histhought process. But he's one hundred

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percent rightism Malone is doing great thingsincarcerated. He pays for his state,
he pays restitution, back to thefamily, all the things that he has
to do. He did it.He played guilty to it. I told
you we've never not taken responsibility.But again, people are trying. George,
have a good time at the reunion. You know where I'm going to
be tonight. I can see that. But I wore the bail bulldog.

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Oh, I don't worry about itnothing. Oh George, what are you
smoking this early? You don't spokeour drink? I got checked, Matt,
have a great weekend. We loveyou all, God willing Jay there.
We'll hope to talk to you allMonday. Bybye.