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April 26, 2024 • 42 mins
Live from Clark's Pump-N-Shop in Masterson Station -- the guys discuss UK basketball recruiting expectations, Hubert Davis spotted in Lexington, the NFL Draft, last night's trivia, and more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm Matt Jones here live at Clark's Pumpin' Shop on
the corner of Citation and Sandersville Road on a beautiful
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
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Puppet Shop. A couple things turned today's show. Wherever you are,

(01:14):
if you don't stop by, I don't know what's wrong
with you. Number one, you get a free coffee for
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You just walk in there, you say I'm here for KSR.
You get a coffee. But this is the big one.
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Speaker 2 (01:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:36):
That's a pretty significant prize, I think, so that people
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(01:58):
remember two two hundred and fifty dollars gas price.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, it's worth it all the folks that live around it.
This is the largest neighborhood in the state of Kentucky.
Walk over like I did.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
And for your name, if you don't even live here,
it's worth it for two hundred and fifty dollars, you know,
Joe Biden, that's so it. So why wouldn't you want
to come get the gas? He raises it so like
now you can get there. I guess gas card for.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
You walk here. That's great gas knowledge. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
By the way. You have some there's some quite some
sunglasses there.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Rachel gave me these.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
I'd forgotten my shady rais at home and she said,
I've got some for you. You got some ice cream
the Mountain Dew. I thought you would like that. Did
you always make fun of you about my Bowler County
and Mountain?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I thought they handed those out at the hospital with
Bully County.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
When you when you were born, you just on Mountain Dew.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, uh a lot to get to today. Now some
unfortunate news. As many of you know, we were supposed
to have uh Mark Pope on the show today. So
I got a phone call this morning that there is
a uh an important recruiting visit that got scheduled last
night that they're trying to go lock up a player,
and they asked if they could come on Monday, and

(03:05):
so I said that, you know, of course I understood that.
So they will do the show on Monday. But you know, hey,
far be it from us to stay in the way
of a recruiting that visit.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Then Alvin Brooks.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
This morning Drew posts a picture on Instagram of all
the coaches, all the three coaches, assistants and Pope on
a plane on their way to the same place. I
kind of like the suspense of this. Who is the
big one? I mean, skip it like last night it
was on this morning. It's not so something happened from
last night to this morning. It's like we got to

(03:37):
get on a plane and get this. Are you Are
you excited about whatever could be happening.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
I am excited. We're happy to postpone. We are a
player's first program and we need players, so we will
talk to him on mo.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
We are a players first one pro it must.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
Be somewhat important because, as you said, the whole staff
was on that plane packing up. They're not bringing someone
to election, and they're going out and getting somebody and
taking it everyone.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
And they have people coming tonight, so like they had
to do. This is a day trip, Brian, This is
like get there and and come back quickly. So a
lot going on.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, I have to report to others, like up to
six guys coming to campus this weekend. Yeah, so it's
gonna be a quick, breakfast trip. He breck with a
guy and come back. I guess.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
So all right, So I'm gonna take a second and
just go over a little bit. So I had a
pretty good conversation last night and this morning about sort
of the state of recruiting. And I think it's good
for fans to know because you know, I think a
lot of people Shannon are wondering.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Like we're gonna get any players right right now?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
We have three Colin Chandler, we have Travis Perry, and
then we have the kid. So we only have three players.
You need more than that to put basketball. You're gonna
have a hard time playing with just three guys. So
I was talking a little bit about and I think
this is an adjustment for Mark Pope and his staff,
but I also think it's gonna have to be a

(04:55):
little bit of an adjustment for us as fans, at
least this year, because he's trying to build a roster.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
So let's go back to what we were talking.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
About yesterday about the market for players, and I was
talking about how part of what's difficult is you don't
know what everybody else is offering, right and so it's
kind of a free for all. And I think guys
are getting substantially more money than they've been getting in
years before, in part because everybody's kind of ryan all

(05:24):
in right now trying to get players. Yes, And for us,
we're trying to get an entire roster at a time
this is happening, and I think that's hard. So the
Kentucky fans right now are desperate for information, would you agree, Drew?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Absolutely, every hour someone's on the internell, on our message board,
on Twitter asking something.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
And that's not something you can control. That's just how
it is. Everybody wants information.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I get it. I want information.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
But for UK right now, the best chance to go
get players is for there to be very little information. Okay,
because the moment there's information, you create a bitting moar.
Other teams know what you're doing et cetera. So you
have this fan base that is desperate for information, but

(06:15):
information actually hurts Kentucky against other schools. So because our
fan base is so desperate for information, and I'm not
blaming them, I'm the same way.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
A lot of our stuff is getting out.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Where's a lot of other school stuff Ryan is not
because their fans are not as desperate for information.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And I think what I've I had a conversation.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Today with somebody that would know that basically said, look,
the fan base, and I think Mark Pope, by the way,
was going to say this on the show today. The
fan base, like, don't assume because you don't know something,
it's not happening. Because there's a lot there's some guys
that I think Kentucky wants that they don't. They just

(07:01):
don't want the general public to know, and they're trying
to get it done without the general public kind of
all knowing. I think we lost one player of some
significance kind of because it got out. And then another
school came in and basically said, all right, let's we'll
top it. And there was a kid I think that

(07:22):
I'd been told was gonna come here that ended up
not coming here. I'm not talking about the Richie Saunders kid.
He ended up staying because he has a family and
you know, probably a mortgage at BYU.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
And needed to stay there.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
But it is I would say to our fan base
when a piece of information gets out, like for instance,
yesterday it was posted Mark Pope with the kid from
Oklahoma at Keenland, my assumption, Drew is when they posted
that when they go out in public, they're cool with
everybody knowing about that, right especially if you're.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
Going to Keenland. Is everywhere right now, if.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You take a kid to Keenland, everybody's gonna know about it.
And I think that kid from Oklahoma there's a pretty
good chance he'll end up being remember number four of
the roster if it's I don't think it's done yet,
but I think there's a very good chance of that.
But there may be some guys I just want fans
to understand, as it was explained to me. Look, they're

(08:16):
guys we want, but we just don't really want people
to know about it. And I think that might be
why Ryan, we haven't heard a ton of stuff in
the last few days, and I think that's it. I
think maybe something getting out might be why. And they're
on a plane right now, and so I think this
is going to be a tension we have right now.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Fans won info. Media wants to give info, but.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
The coaches would rather that info not be out there,
and that makes it difficult.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
I see both sides. I see the fans. They're thirsty,
we want to know the knowledge. I see this coach
as side, they would like to keep it hush hush.
I already saw somebody tracking a plane from Lexington a
private jet this morning.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, so so take the track in the plane.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I understand why everybody's doing it, and it's fun. And
to be honest with you, if we didn't have this show,
I'd probably be tracking it too. But I actually am
not sure Drew that it helps, because I do think
I think Mark Pope is having to navigate something completely
different than he was at BYU, Like their fan base

(09:18):
didn't do.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Stuff like this.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Now He's gonna just have to get adjusted to it
because this is the way we are.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
But for instance, there's like three names of.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
People that I now think they're in on that I
had never heard connected to Kentucky. And you know, I
want us to win, so I'm not gonna say they are,
at least as it pertains to use a biblical term
as to me and my house. I'm only going to
put something out there, I think if they're cool with

(09:47):
knowing it. But I think that's gonna be attention over
the next couple of weeks because these national guys, they
don't care. They're just gonna put out anything out that
they want. And I get it, but I don't know
necessarily Drew, that it helps our.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Cause I know what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's not always other teams recruiting them. Sometimes it's the
school doesn't know their guy is leaving and you want
them to announce it. Then you know, yeah, tells his
school an hour before. If it gets out that you
are in with someone they are at, you know their
current team is recruiting them NonStop. The town they're in,
everyone around them is trying to get them to stay
whereas you'd rather them just pop in and be like, hey,
by the way, I'm going to UK. Didn't mention that

(10:22):
yet you put it up. Putting it out there, it
opens up for everyone and whether they're trying to get
them to a new school or keeping them stay where
they're trying to leave.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
There's a school that I think there's a player that
we would, if not have gotten, had a really good
shot on that another school didn't even know Kentucky was
in on. It comes out that we've contacted him Shannon,
and the other school goes and locks it down.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, that's the.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Last thing you want to create, especially when you're up
against the school like Arkansas, who's already offering to pay
double whatever.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Your offer is.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, this wasn't Arkansas, but that's theory.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
I mean, it's almost impossible when you're in that situation.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
So I can't speak for anybody else, but for me,
if you're I have a lot of you as well.
Who are they talking to, et cetera. Here's what I'll say.
If you see me say something, then at least for
this year, I've kind of gotten a greenlight because we
need players this year. There may be years in the

(11:15):
future where it's not, but we need players, and so
I don't want to make anything bad. But I do
think these last few days they've had to readjust a
little bit because once Kentucky's involved, these players in the
agents go oh oh, now we can really make something happen,
and I think that might be a little bit of

(11:36):
what some of what you've heard. Also, there's a player
who I believe was scheduled to come this weekend who
I don't think it's gonna work out at Kentucky, not
because they lost them, but because of some I don't
want to get into the kids business, but there just
may be a player that whose name has been associated
with us who will not end.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Up being one here. I assume that'll come out later today.
But I just I think we thought there'd be six.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I think there's now probably only going to be five,
maybe even only four who are here this weekend.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Busy, busy weekend for that coaching staff. And see them
get on a private jet and fly house this morning
knowing they got to come back. It's exciting for our
fan base, I think.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
But what's crazy is I'm just like all these other people.
I want to know where they're going. Yeah, yeah, right,
I want to know where they're going. I got to
assume since Alvin Brooks put the plane picture out there,
that they're okay with everybody knowing there somewhere.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
They're going somewhere.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
And the thing is, Drew, you know, our fan base
is going to figure out where they are, and then
once they figure out where they are, they're probably gonna
figure out who they're going after.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
So we're crazy. Kentucky basketball is our life, So we
have nothing but time and energy to look up what's
going on with the Cats three sixty five.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Especially right now with nothing else going on, Shanne, this
is normally this would not be something we focus on,
but we're doing it.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
With the new coach, building the roster from the ground up,
there's a lot of excitement and a lot of options
for Pope.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
So so anyway, I just wanted to give that little
you know, we're supposed to have him on today, but
I also got a little bit of notion as they
were as they were talking to me sort of about
him not coming on. I kind of have a better
idea where we are. Here's all I would say. A
lot of you asked me at the bar. I probably
had ten people ask me, are we gonna be all right?
If you ask me today, I think this roster still

(13:22):
is going to be I think this Russ is gonna
be very good. Now, some stuff's got to fall into
place in like the next three days, the next three
or four.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Days is big.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
But you have a situation like I know of two
guys that there's two guys. They want to make sure
they get one of them, right. They have an order,
but they don't necessarily want the order to get out,
and so you have this situation where they prefer one
over the other.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
But they got to make sure they get one of them.
And so these next three or four days are gonna
be really really crucial I think to building a roster.
You ask me at the end of next week might
have a different reaction, but as of today, I still
feel really good about what the team's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
I do too, especially when you see the guys that
they're bringing in. They're gonna they're gonna have some success
with some of these guys, and they're good, are really
good players. We're talking to.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, a f I've nine two eight, twenty two eighty seven.
By the way, big shout out to my friend from Middlesborough.
You know you all know him as well. Seventieth birthday
to our God Dictamor.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Oh Dick Tamer that's right.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Happy birthday. They're actually in Middlesbrough. They're giving him a parade.
Oh wow, how about that?

Speaker 6 (14:29):
I would have worn my Dictamor T shirt.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
You should have worn your Dictators So happy seventieth birthday,
Uh to mister Tamer love the guy.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
We'll take a break and be right back. This is
Kentucky Sports Radio. Look, come back, it is.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Kentucky Sports Radio here at Clark's Puppet Shop. Just a
reminder that we will be giving away two two hundred
and fifty dollars gas cards by the end of the show,
So find your way out here to Citation and Sandersville Road.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I guess is this technically Masterson Station? It is.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, we're in the Masterson Station, Umbrell, you know what
I like. In fact, they have enough houses that look
at all, this the largest neighborhood in the state of
Kentucky right there.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
You say that is that true? Oh? Factual? Where do
you find that?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
All our elbar stats are? You know, we get numbers
decide what is a neighborhood. They have to define boundaries
per neighborhood, you know, neighborhood associations and city planners.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
And Shannon you look skeptical.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Well, I mean he is a realtor, so he would
know more than me about it. But yeah, I don't
know what constitutes actually being in a neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, so is that the same as that that's see
I live over there. That's a different neighborhood. But we're
under the Master's station umbrella. The master station gets all
of this, they get all that over there.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
So's sketchy. What were you going to say?

Speaker 4 (15:41):
These places have a drive through. That's what I love
about Clark's Pumpers Shop, this one and the one over
there on on citation Lucille, I mean Least Town and Lucille.
They both have drive through. So that's cool. You can
get breakfast at your coffee everything.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, it's cool. You don't see that a lot eighty seven,
I will say, Drew.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
If the coaching staff wants people to not figure out
where they are, they shouldn't put the plane numbers on
their Instagram stories.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I just saw that.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Somebody somebody put the so they're gonna be able to
track that plane pretty well. Maybe I would say to him, Hey,
you want to kind of move in silence, don't put
your plane number on your Instagram store.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
If they're still getting used to flying private, uh. I
noticed coach Brooks. I followed him on Instagram last night.
He is aggressive with the stories, we might know where
he is at every moment. It's that interesting watching to
move about.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Hey, coach Brooks, he doesn't have a ton of Instagram
followers yet, but he will soon. I'm gonna say to
Alvin Brooks, all right, man, maybe have a friend's only
story or something you might need. Because his he is,
he does put a lot of where he is at
any moment out there.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
He posted before he had the job, flying from Baylor
to Lexington. That kind of has tipped his hand and
what he was gonna do with.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Our fans eat that stuff up. I doubt they did
much at Baylor, you know. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure
people different at b YU. They were just like they
got other things to do. I gotta gotta play half
court basketball.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
They weren't worried about the about that kind of stuff. Now,
the kid from BYU is not gonna come here. I
was told basically said, look, having to move uh my
wife across the country to play and it's probably not
what he wants to do. He's gonna stay at b YU.
Was a little bit of a surprise. I think UK
thought he would end up coming here. I think you

(17:23):
would have been a good player. I think you would
have been probably a perfect six man or whatever for
the team. So a little disappointing, but hopefully they'll find
someone as good.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
I guess we know who wears the pants in that family.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
If it don't act like you wouldn't have done the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I mean, like, I mean, if you were married and
your wife said we're not moving from across the country,
Drew Ryan would have said, no, we're not moving right.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah, absolutely. Uh, you know, I'd like to downplay it.
I was pretty bummed. I was excited about it. I
thought he was gonna be good. No, people are having
fun at UK's expense online saying we're gonna spin it
into nothing. But I was pretty by that one. I
like the that he was familiar with Pope. I likes
how he plays as a backup piece. I was bummed
to see him go.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I mean, look, it is clear if you're online, there's
a lot of glee being taken by other fan bases
to what they consider like problems of Kentucky's re career.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I don't buy it, Like I don't. I'm gonna be
honest with you.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I don't think there's a problem yet I think they
would have liked to have had the guy yesterday, but
he decided to stay.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
At b YU.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
What are you gonna do? He's a Mormon, BYU's a
Mormon school, he's married. Like he didn't want to leave.
He doesn't want to leave.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
In terms of losing a guy, I think there's really
only one guy that they were going heavy on that
they didn't get.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Now.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I think there's a lot of other guys that they
are heavy on that it's not certain they're gonna get,
and that's why these next three or four days are
really important. But there's only one guy that I think
the way I think they have a matter of fact,
I know they have. They have like five or six
guys that they are zeroed in on, and then they

(19:05):
got another ten to fifteen that are kinda all right,
we'll take them or if that doesn't work out. But
those five to six are the focuses. And I think
of those people, they've only lost one so far.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
And obviously they got one in Amari Williams.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Why was Hubert Davis walking around Lexington yesterday?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
He was with a dude, So it looks like UNC
It looks like a dude theero will probably end up
at North Carolina. I will say this, what's Hubert Davis?
Apparently he wanted to keep that again. Try to roll
low key. You can't be walking around the parking lot
at Malone's Drew and think you no one's going to
see you. I had four different people send me a

(19:47):
picture of him. He was doing a Matt Jones where
he paces around the parking lot on the phone. He
apparently was doing it for fifteen minutes.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Short of going to Keenland and standing in the paddock
and waving and saying, I'm Hubert Davis. Going to Palamar
Harry's on a Keenland day is probably second and where
you're gonna get noticed. That is one of the most
popular spots you can go to on a Keenland day.
And he's just walking around in Carolina. I was wondering
why he's getting noticed.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
And he also did his meeting with a do at
a table in the middle of the rest of ste.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
I look at that as a fleck like I'm coming
to your city, I'm taking your players. I want you
to get a picture of me. He's walking Yeah, I
think so, like I'm gonna come and take your guys.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, and we do that.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
We would, you know, obviously do what we do and
post it on social media.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, I mean, good for a do if he ends
up there, right, I mean I don't think he was
gonna stay here regardless, so I don't consider you know,
I'm surprised how many of our fans thought it was
my man, I gotta have Ice, Like this show is
going on, he gotta have Ice. Got a bow tie Ice.
I understand that's the way it goes. Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, But I.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Never thought we were gonna keep any of Cal's players,
so I'm always surprised when people act shocked. There's not
one that I thought had any chance of staying here.
Ran like, they come here for Cow, so when he leaves,
they're gonna leave.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Especially when it do even in the portal. Before Cal
even left, I mean, I think he was piece out
of Lexington long before all this even shook shook out.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's much more surprising to me the Cow players that
don't go to Arkansas than the fact they don't stay here, Drew,
I was certain they weren't going to stay.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
You No, I didn't expect any of them. I would
have liked to have a do back. I really like
it Due, and if it ends up being North Carolina,
I'm still gonna be in a Due guy. He needs
to hate the Tar Hills. I wish we had got
a little more from him last year. I felt like
you took a big jump from YR one. Yeah, two,
even though your three wasn't realistic. I think he's got
a break future.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
It's interesting chanting. You think Hubert Davis was flexing?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
I mean he could have had that conversation in a
car somewhere where no one would have seen him.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
But to do it in public, you think he'd fly
to Lexington and then just go sit in an alley
with the new the AO. No.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
I mean, if you wanted to keep it private, you would.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
I would think you wouldn't go to He's right, you
wouldn't go to the Lamar Harry's on a Keenland Thursday.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
If you're trying to keep it quiet.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I think Pope maybe needs to go to Fayetteville and
maybe still some of Cow's players and just walk around
in public wherever whatever dump they have in Fayetteville.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Uh, and maybe you know, do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Whatever dump they have markets fans at Shannon the dude.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
People were wondering yesterday if Hubert ordered the coach Cow's chicken.
It's still on the Palomar menu.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Wait, they gotta take the coach. They got to off right,
you can't. You can't leave the coach Cow's chicken, though.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
BHG wants to be hilarious. Leave it on the menu,
but make it the kids Nuggets instead of the entre
he just make it the Dino Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Coach John carry Nuggets A five two eighty seven. Uh,
you could give us a shout. Get take your calls.
We are here at Clark's Pumping Shop. When we come back,
I want to talk a little bit about the draft. Plus,
football's got a major, major visitor that hopefully will pop
this weekend that would probably start for the team next
year if they end up getting him. We'll be right back.

(23:01):
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Speaker 4 (23:14):
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Speaker 2 (23:15):
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and gravy, that sounds awesome.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Standing it's good. Like I said, they have a drive
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Speaker 2 (23:23):
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Speaker 3 (23:28):
Gaff cards or gas cards that I'm gonna give away
at the end of the show to someone here. So
stop by and say hello. We have some breaking news John,
that I think is breaking news. Are yes, DJ Waller,
that's the Michigan defensive back is visiting Kentucky today. That

(23:52):
is the guy I was going to talk about that.
Kentucky visited him yesterday. He's coming to Lexington today. He
will start in the secondary for Kentucky almost certainly might
have started for Michigan next year. If he stayed at
Michigan Drew that would be a huge gift for the
football team here in the portal season.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Yeah, Kentucky almost got him out of high school, lost
him to the Wolverines. He's from a little town called Youngstown, Ohio,
which I'm sure helps with the recruitment. So Vince went
up saw him yesterday. Gonna get a return trip, and
reports are they're in very good standing.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
I think they're a very good standing. You know they
lost a kid, the angling kid, after the spring game.
This would be the replacement. You'd be able to fix
it one for one. I hear you're playing tonight at
Louisville at ten.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Roofs ten roof in Saint Matthew's eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's a wild crowd. Are you ready for it? I am.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
You know, last time we were at a ten roof,
Vince Merrill was up on stage with us, singing simple man.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
So I don't know that he'll be there tonight.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
But maybe you'll have Pat Kelsey tonight.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
No, we don't want him up there with us.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Jeff Brom.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
I like the Brom guys.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
But you know what, I might be a little maybe
I'll maybe I'll come see.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Swing on by. Yeah we'll be there.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, I didn't know that that's a possibility. All right,
who's up first, Jeremy, Jeremy, go ahead, Jeremy.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Hey man, I'm excited to hear the book conversation whenever
we get to hear it with you. But I have
a question about the NFL draft. Wanted to give you
a chance to show you're working on journalism.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
I was on it till two o'clock in the morning
on radio last night talking about the NFL Draft, and
if you want to hear somebody being full of it,
you need to get the tape of that.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
But go ahead.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
So I tried to call about ten minutes. That was
aw stay up for me. I wanted to see. I
saw a lot of good choices in the high teens.
Wanted to see if he saw a good sleeper there.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
And Jared Vance or Jared Verse, excuse me, Jared Verse,
one of the.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Most verse tool players of the draft, goes nineteenth like that,
goes nineteenth to the Rams, and I think they got
a steal right there. You know the young man he's
got he needs to work on his hips, right, okay,
but he's got a burst off the edge. Started went
to Albany as a walk on tight end and worked
his way up to play defensive end at Florida State

(26:07):
and goes to the draft.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Great American story.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Now you put him on the outside with Byron Young
right there in the middle, and you have quite a
defensive line next year.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
In the Rams.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
But what kind of hands does he have?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
He has violent hands? How do I know that?

Speaker 3 (26:22):
I listened to Booker McFarlane talk about it, and he
literally came on and goes, he has violent hands, and
I thought that's a great term, right, dude.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Had you sound exactly like you know, like what you're
talking about, like you've watched him.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You never heard the phrase violent hands before.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
I wouldn't know what to say about hands.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
So Jared versus violent hands and so yes, sir Jeremy.
I I was a big fan of that pick, probably
my sleeper of the draft.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Well, you got me excited for it, and I was.
I saw it in the Jaguars war room. That looked
like somebody had went to war the house.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Serious, Yeah, So I do have to talk about this.
That's a great story shaped the call, all right. So
for people who don't know, Shannon knows this. Tony Kahan
owns a wrestling company, ae w Wrestling, which is the
WWE's main competitor. On the television show on Wednesday night,
he took a power bomb through a table and so

(27:16):
to sell the injury, he put on a neck brace.
On the show, they carried him out and he had
a neck brace. This dude was in the Jaguars war
room last night and he was wearing the neck bra.
The commitment to the storyline my man sold the neck
brace in the Jaguars war room.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I felt like you would appreciate.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Those very Andy Kaufman of him.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
You know what, maybe though, maybe he's not selling it,
Maybe he actually did have a neck injury.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Our neck brace is still the same foam circle that
it's been for like the forty years. Has the technology
drew not improved at all in the neck brace industry?

Speaker 6 (27:56):
I don't know, but it reminds me years ago. I
was in a wreck the day before prom and they
told me I had to wear one to my senior prom.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I ended up going.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Without it, but they tried to wrap a bow tie
around one for me back And if you we're gonna
have to wear it to your CECID prom, not going
to prom wearing that.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I would have loved you wearing that little thing too.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
I feel good at Prom, but uh didn't have to
wear the neck brace.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
See, so shit, Ryan, I was at I was on
the draft coverage till two am last night.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Luckily we had phone calls the whole time, so I
was good.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
But uh, you know, thankfully Michael Pennix Junior got picked
and I was able to go, oh, that was terrible.
Why would they do that? That gave us a little
bit of conversation. But here's what I learned about the draft.
There were a lot of like samoeing guys whose names
I couldn't pronounce, who I didn't really want to get
into because it would show that my inability to pronounce
their name. Then I didn't know anything about them, So

(28:50):
I skipped over those picks. Six quarterbacks in the top twelve.
I focused on that.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Now, are you also running it back again tonight? Are
you doing it again tonight?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
We do it again tonight?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
What times than thirty to one? So it's not as long,
but it's the second and third round. And Shannon, I'm
just gonna surprise you don't know a lot about the
guys that are supposed to go in the second and
third round.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Well, maybe you'll get lucky. They'll be maybe one or
two cats that are there. Drew Phillips.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, let's talk about that chance of potentially one, two
or three Kentucky players going tonight. Drew make a prediction,
Drew Phillips, Trevin Wallace, Ray Davis, how many of those
guys go tonight?

Speaker 6 (29:27):
I think Phillips and Wallace go, and Davis is on
the Friends. I'll say it goes fourth round, but I
hope it's three tonight.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Phillips goes. I'm gonna
say Davis goes. I'm gonna say Phillips and Davis go.
What about you?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, Phillips is a guy that could sneak in late
in the second round, even so he's definitely gonna go tonight.
I saw somebody post Ray Davis was the fifth best
running back in the draft.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
But it's just not a very deep running back pool
this year.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
But there are but I think mel Kiper maybe has
him as that and mel Kiper has Wallace as like
the fifth best linebacker. Last night, they had fourteen offensive
guys start the draft, so it's it's definitely an offensive league.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
Now, your Bears had quite the night with the offense.
They still need some line help, but you are loaded
up offensively.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Very happy with my Bears not getting a quarterback in
the wide receiver. Who's up next?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Ryan? Ryan? Go ahead? Ryan? Hey, guys, who are.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (30:22):
I kind of agree with that when you said yesterday
that you're not saying you're nervous but you're not saying
you're not nervous about shitting. Guy, what would you say
is a successful recruiting weekend? And at what point you
say that you're hitting nervous?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Okay, So a successful recruiting weekend, that's a good question
to me, is that we come by Tuesday and we
have at least six players on the roster, whether the
public knows about them or not. Okay, So I think
that's I think what I've learned is there's a big
difference right now between when the stats and when the

(31:01):
public knows because the nio portion of the stuff still.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Has to get like worked out for a lot of
these guys.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
So, for instance, I think they have a player committed
now and everybody just doesn't know about it yet. So
in my mind they have four players. In my mind,
I want to so I need to in my mind
feel like there are six players by let's say Tuesday.
The key to me, this is the key to me.
I want Drew to make sure we have like two studs. Okay,

(31:36):
I'm pretty sure they're gonna get one. I want to
find another one, all right, because I think Amari Williams,
Colin Chandler, Travis Perry, maybe the kid that was here yesterday.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I think those are great pieces. But you gotta have
one or two studs. That's what I want.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
I don't Colin Chandler could become a stud, but I
don't know if you can expect them to be that
right off hand.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
So give me one or two of those the roster.
I'm not worried about filling out a roster. They can
find players.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
I mean, it's it's just a matter of getting the
dude you want. Yeah, and I'm really watching you get
a stud point guard. I love Perry and Chandler. They're
coming off the bench. In my brain, Williams will likely start.
But you also have to deal with with these guys committing.
You're still trying to recruit a bench, and most guys
don't want to be recruited as the backup.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
This has to be a that's a huge problem right now.
That's a huge problem right now.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
There are I think there's ten people right now, Shannon,
that would commit to Kentucky if they thought they were
going to start. Yeah, but Kentucky is trying to get
a starting lineup and then go get a bitch, but
not have the bench affect the starters or the starters
keep you from getting the bench. It's a tough juggle

(32:49):
because you're having to create a roster from.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Scratch, right and if you promise somebody playing time or
you know your a starting position, how do you sell
that to somebody who is going to be a bench player.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
I think that's tough to do.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
I don't know that you can promise somebody to be
a starter, because then what happens in practice? What if
somebody else is playing better in practice and maybe becomes
a guy who earns that starting position.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I mean, if you look at it, go look at
the teams that replaced to coach this year, they're all
dealing with the same thing. I mean, Louisville had to
create a roster from scratch, and they had two more
weeks than us, and they now have what five players.
I think at this point Arkansas had a week more
than us. They have three players I think right now,

(33:32):
so we're USC I think started from scratch. They have
three players. So I do think Drew, we're all kind
of dealing with this at the same time.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
And I would say, I mean, I don't know what
went through Richie Saunders head. I'm sure family was a
big part of it. But at BYU, he's the guy,
and they made that known.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
You're the guy.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
He's looking at Pope with six visitors this weekend, four
that play his position, and probably more that we don't
even know about. So it's so hard to get these
guys to lock in when they really don't know where
they'll fit in the rotation, because you can't make these promises.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
But I would say to you, come to me Tuesday
night and I'll do if you'll remind me, I'll do
a Twitter space and I'll tell you if I feel good,
then I think this is the biggest week This is
the biggest weekend.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
If Kentucky's gonna have a team that has a chance.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
To be really good, maybe not, don't block the maybe
not great, then they need to have a good weekend
right here.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
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grilling seon after a long cold winter. How about no
chay Linda Farm. How about it describe beef to people
because you're more of a guy who likes beef.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
It is the best beef I've ever had, period. It
is so good and tasty. You already don't have to
season and it tastes so good.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
You have to season it at all.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
If you don't want to, you don't have to. It
taste that good.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
That's good dried steaks, burgers, brisket or ribs. Go to
no Chaylend of Farms or call Steve Grissom eight five
nine seven oh seven, seven thousand and four. He'll even
chan and give you a tour of the farm.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh, that would be great right there in Bourbon County.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
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We'll take a break and be right back here at
Clark's Puppet Shop.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
It's Kisel look, come back, take you sports radio here
at Clark's Puppet Shop. Beautiful Friday. What a gorgeous day?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
What the weather's supposed to be like this weekend?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Do we know here on the corner that's alsoposed to
be really nice? That's awesome Sandersville and citation. It is
a gorgeous day. So uh, last night we did we
did A five nine twenty two eighty seven. We did trivia.
Ryan's team was shinnon awful, absolutely awful. So, uh, you
had something you wanted to say about it, though it was.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Ridiculously way too hard. That was the hardest you've ever
asked questions by far.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
It sounds like somebody's whining.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
Drew definitely. I thought during the break when he said
I have something to say about trivia.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Why was it so hard? I asked you very easy questions.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
We're not the top, like the seven most populated cities
in South America.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's not that hard.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
That one. The ones we're like, we had what does
lion mountain mean? Or a lot this?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
No, I mean these were very easy questions. They were
like the word origin of countries, right and give.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Them some of them? Well, I don't.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
I don't word origin lion mountain.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, so I said, what country is for the African
word for lion mountain? Okay?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
So does any just think about it? So you got
all right, so I've already narrowed it down. You know,
it's an African country. Think about lion mountain. Could anybody
figure out what would be what? No, that's not a country,
that's a Mountain. What what? What country not kill them
in jar? What do you think Lion Mountain, Sierra Leona

(36:50):
got it right like you got Pat got it so Pat?
But Leon Lion Sierra Mountain.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Too soon after Richie saw in a serial.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yes, part of the reason I put it there is
because I thought, well, people will think about the country
because of Richie Saunders.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Didn't happen. But here's my UK sports question.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Antonio Reeves this year had one of the thirty best
individual points seasons in UK history for a senior for
a senior. Okay, who are the other eight players since
Mark Pope played college basketball Kentucky who were seniors who

(37:29):
had the top eight of the top thirty points.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Per year as seniors?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Bradley Ramel Bradley who Ryan said during the break it's
been so long time.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
That's all I got here, seniors.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
So starting with the Pope's teams, what do you got
Keith Bogans. Keith Bogans is won m Gerald Fitch. Jerald
Fitch is actually just one away.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's a good guest night.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
Who else Darius No, Joe Crawford, Joe Crawford is that's nice?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
You haven't gotten the one that scored the most that
should beat Tayshawn Prince is one you still haven't got.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Who played with Pope to Tony Delk is one that's
gonna get to it.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
I don't need to clues.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
All right, what about there's one you should not have
forgotten because it wasn't that long ago. We had seniors.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Come on, I remember who Oscar?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
How does everybody forget Oscar? No one got Oscar?

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Do you want to two years ago?

Speaker 6 (38:27):
If we played a game named Seniors in the last
fifteen years, I think Ivin Strong and then the other.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Two were Scott Paget and Jeff Shepherd. Okay, so you
how many did you get? We got five?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
We did not get Jeff Shepherd, and we scratched out
from did you get Oscar? We did not get Oscar?
Forgot about it.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Think about how quickly they forgotten Oscar.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I mean Oscar was not here. He was here two
years ago, and everybody's already like out of their minds.

Speaker 6 (38:52):
I didn't forget Oscar. I just forget he was a senior.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yes, well he was a senior. But so that was
our trivia last night. Who's up next? Adam at him?
Go ahead, at him?

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Okay, Matt, I've been trying to I wanted to say
this the first week Mark Pope got.

Speaker 7 (39:09):
Hired, but I couldn't get in. But I don't know
if Pope's going to be better than Cal.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
We knew it to expect.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Next year with Cal, and now it's like a breath
of fresh air and we don't know what to expect,
and so it's just more exciting.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
And that's just I was just it is more exciting.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
I mean like there's a new caring about recruiting that
hasn't existed for years.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I mean, I this, this fan base has.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Not cared about recruiting like it does now, drew since
the early col years.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Would you agree, yeah, that in Pope he has he
wants to be in front of people. Like last summer, Yo,
Cal did that we're moving in silence thing and you
just weren't getting national interviews or you didn't give much
from behind the scenes. It's the exact opposite now because
Pope's trying to build excitement, so he's everywhere and putting
out a lot of positivity.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Shannon, my question about Pope is not whether or not
he's going to be better than Cal in the broad scale.
That would be a very hard standard when you consider
what Cal did the early years. The question to me
is much more narrow. Is Pope gonna be better than
Cal would have been for these next few years? Would

(40:19):
the next five years of Pope been better than what
the next five or four years of Cal would have been.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's the question. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
The question is not whether he's a better coach. Cal's
a Hall of Famer. Cal's a great coach, and it
will be hard, if not impossible, for Pope to match
what Cal did his first ten years. But the question
is would this program have been better off in the
next four years with four years of Cal the way
he was the last four years or with Mark Pope?

(40:47):
And for me Ryan, the answer to that question is Pope.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I feel if kal Ex staved, we were gonna get
a lot more of the same. It just would have
been the same thing high potential recruits kind of underachieve
when it came to March. At least with Pope, I
think we've got that renewed interest that hey man, we're
all in this together again. We're gonna build it back
to where it used to be.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
There's to me, Pope is a lot more of an unknown,
But I feel like I know what the next few
years of COW would have been like. Yeah, we might
have been four years, made one good run, and we'd
have had a lot of first and second round losses
and disappointment with Pope. Maybe it's a lot better than that.
Maybe it's worse, but it's unknown. But I feel like Shannon,

(41:32):
I kind of know how the Cow story was gonna end.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
And I feel like there was a lot of toxic
relationships within the program as well, And at least you
get a clean slate. You get to start over with
those relationships from the ad all the way down. So
I think that right there is a big positive for
this program.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
So, by the way, I said Louisville had five, apparently
they have eight guys. I haven't followed it quite a close,
so they actually are close to having their roster. You
think they get the sixteen year old man. That guy
just seems to be bad chase. It seems like there's
a lot of bagchasing. We'll take a break, come back
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