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Speaker 5 (01:06):
It is not Matt Jones, it is Jack Pilgrim and
Shaun Smith for the Sources Say Podcast Takeover Day on
Kentucky Sports Radio. Our third consecutive year. Very excited and
you know, grateful and appreciative to be back our third
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eight five to nine two eight h two two eight seven.
We want to hear from you. We have Andrew Carr
coming up at eleven forty. You will not want to
miss that one. He's going to talk about his wild
journey to Lexington, seen as one of the you know,
maybe sneaky picks for most valuable player on this this
upcoming roster. We'll hear about how things are going move
in process, and I believe workouts start in the next
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couple of days, so we're gonna start getting videos and
you know, updates on how things are going, how the
team is coming together. And I believe, uh, tomorrow is
the last player moving in a Mary Williams will be
moved in and right in time for the meet and
greet with Club Blue.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That's gonna be a blast. We'll be out there.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I can't wait to go, you know, kind of mingle
see the fans as our first big NIL event where
you know, kind of the fans and the players and
staff get to come together and kind of, you know,
start this new era of Kentucky basketball off on the
right page. So a lot a lot of fun stuff
coming down the pike. But sean kind of on that note,
with Andrew Carr coming up as a sneaky player that
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that you know, known as potentially an MVP candidate for
this upcoming roster, let's talk a little bit about like
superlatives I want to see. We'll talk about lineups, but
who is the player that isn't being talked enough about
right now that you think by this point next year
or you know, obviously just leading up to the season,
it is going to be the one that has kind
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of taken over this team and is one that you
know is going to be a difference maker that decides
what this team can do in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
And that's a tough question because so many of these
guys are unknowns to all all of us that I
think you could probably say three or four guys and
be right with it. But obviously, to me, Andrew Carr
is the guy that I think has that breakout potential
that could go to another level. I'll take a Oway
is another guy in this system and the way that
this roster's pieced together that I think can really pop
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just because you've got spacing around him. A guy that
can touch the paint, do it off the bounce, can
make Stan steel shots, be a really really good perimeter
lockdown defender. Like I think, he can do a lot
of things in a lot of different areas, So I'll
take it. Ohway is also a guy that I think
could really break through and have a big year, But
Andrew Carr is my guy for the breakout performer, the
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guy that just kind of takes it to another level
that we are talking about. But like I said, you'll
get a little talk here to get a little talk there,
because there's just so many unknowns about what these guys
actually are going to be at Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
It reminds me so much last year remember when Reed
Shepherd he was the guy that everybody thought would be
a contributor, Like, hey, you know, he's not being talked
about enough McDonald's All American top forty recruit in the country. Like,
we know he's a talented piece, but just what level
of contribution will he be able to make in year one?
The whispers with early workouts were read's a guy like
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Reid as a dude who is going to be a
you know, high level contributor for us. But was it
going to be as a twenty point per game score
or was it going to be as a surefire top
five pick. We didn't know what that gap was, and
nobody thought on the latter end of you know, being
almost guaranteed to be a top five pick at this point.
So a guy to me like Andrew Carr is approaching
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that territory for me where there's so much buzz about
him being a guy who could break through that it's
almost expected at this point that you know, you know
that he's going to be a reliable piece, so much
built around him. Mark Pope has talked about him every
single interview that he's done, saying that guy was made
for me. He you know, we like Kobe brea greatest
shooter in the last decade in college basketball. Kirk Crease
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is going to be a fan favorite like he's talked
a lot in you know, hyperbolic about a lot of
these guys. Of he's the best at this, he's the
best defending, lockdown defender in college basketball. But the guy
he always kind of circles back to is Andrew Carr
as the man. A lot of our stuff is going
to be run through him, a lot of He's going
to be taking a lot of big shots for us,
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So I think we should start to expect that. But
beyond that, I have this hunch about Colin Chandler, man, like,
this is a guy that was so highly touted coming
out of high school ends up at BYU with consensus
top thirty kid. I saw him on the AAU circut
a sum of the Pengos All American Camp, thinking, man,
why is this guy going to BYU. He's you know,
he's he's a guy, he's he is going to be
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a contributor at some point. The way things unfolded, he
ends up in Lexington. Obviously, the one thing to watch
is his two year transition period after you know, taking
his mission trip. It's going to be an adjustment up
to the season. I think talking to some people around
the program, talking to people close to college and you know, he's.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Out of shape.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
He's not in game shape in the slightest. And it's
my understanding that there's like a six to eight week
ramp up period for kids in similar situations that they
you know, they had a system down pat in at
BYU for you know, the a number of kids that
have done the exact same thing, and it takes once
they get on campus a firm six to eight period
week period to kind of get things rolling and get
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back to game shape. He'll be fined by the regular season.
I don't think we'll hear a lot of the buzz
about man. That's the guy to keep an eye on
for now because he is so behind. But when he
makes up that ground and finds his footing, I think
he has legitimate explosion potential. At least in year one
is a contributor, same vibe with Reed. Shepherd gonna be
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a contributor in year one in my opinion, and then
I think in year two he's going to be and
you know, end up being a lottery potential type type
of talent. I think Colin Chandler has a really really
bright future in Lexington.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah, I do too, And and there's so many guys
that that you look at on this ross that you
can kind of say, okay, like what do we expect
to be them to be now? And there's pieces here
that you look and see that Okay, I could I
could envision multiple years with this guy? Will take it? Ohway,
he's got multiple years of eligibility left, you know, Colin Chandler, Like,
there's some pieces here that you can kind of see
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and do they outperform early expectations and maybe do so
well that they're not here long term? That's always that's
never a bad thing. But I'm with you on Chandler, like,
when we he's the name, I think that gets lost
the most just because he's freshman. But he's older. He's
an older freshman, So how does that help him? I
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know that he's not had the time and the thing
that some of these other guys have had coming into this,
But where is he when this thing gets started here
in a couple of days, and then where is he
when the season gets here in November? But I like
that pick from you. I think that that's one that
to really keep an eye on as well.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Let's go back to the phone lines eight five, nine
to two two eight seven, we have Joel.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Hey, guys, I'm a Kentucky and I'm a Kentucky and
transplant to gold Freeze, Florida. So I want to answer
your sharp question, and then I want to ask you
all the question uh that when you and I haven't
had the first hand experience, thankfully, but I thought about
it enough that if you get a sharp one of
the things I haven't heard anybody say is is flee.
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And I've watched like like, calmly move away. That's what
I'm gonna do because I've I've watched people panic and
you they go eat and things that are in distress.
So anyway, flee calmly. And now I'll beat the living
crod out of it if if I don't flee comly.
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And then on the jellyfish, keep a bottle of white
vinegar and you're talking about the urine. Help that white
vinegar does a trick as a at the local and
then watch riptides and that's my p s A announcement.
The rip tides out here get more people than than
sharks and jelly So my question for you Kentucky, like
Kentucky by I'm really excited about it. But and I'm
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glad you guys are talking of basketball. I'm on board now.
I wasn't so happy when Cal was there, so I'm
glad he's gone. Kentucky sports though, you know, we're tops
in the nation in gymnastics we had, we had national
team titles shot there, men's tennis national title shot. Our
football team on the rise, still hopeful, and I thought
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they were kind of taking you know, a bigger, bigger
limelight when Cal was dimming. Our volleyball team won a
national championship, rival team one. We got track and field Olympians,
we got women's basketball, really excited about that. Our softball
team is not good anyway. The question for y'all is
why can't we be more than a one sports team?
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Why are why do we.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
Have to be?
Speaker 7 (09:45):
I know history says it's Kentucky basketball and you're a
one sport team. But times are changing and why or
why not? And I'll go ahead and hang up. Let's
tell answer that one.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Thanks Joel, awesome stuff there. He gets our Don Franklin
call to day, obviously appreciate the advice on the ocean.
Great insight from an on site expert there, and he
brings up a point that I think I want to
kind of share some some insight on the coach cal
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departure and why that exact take was so important for
Mitch Barnhart when deciding whether or not to fire him
after the season ended. So that is so important for
Mitch to have such a well rounded athletics department where
when it comes to a thirty million dollar buyout to
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fire a guy who has been underwhelming up to that point,
and you demand more and expect more, and you're trying
to find that middle ground of how do you demand
more without you know, kind of putting your money where
your mouth is and getting rid of him, knowing that
there were people that wanted to put the funds together
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to get rid of him and start fresh and end up,
you know what we got anyway with a fresh start elsewhere.
But when you have a thirty million dollar decision of
that magnitude, and we have seen since the revenue sharing
with the NCAA and now schools are going to be
paying these kids directly, that was such a crucial part
of that decision for Mitch that ended up deciding Kyle's
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fate that he was not going to fire col not
because Mitch didn't expect more, and that there was a
demand for more around the program, but he wasn't going
to screw over these other programs around the athletics department
that deserve that money that is in the pot. But
why pay somebody to go away in one sport when
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there's so many other deserving people of new uniforms, new
upgrades with facilities. Knew this, knew that, like it is
so important for Mitch to have a well rounded athletics department,
and it has become that because he does doesn't want
to be identified as a one sport program. That's exactly
the reason why we got into the tough, tricky situation
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with cal this offseason where you want more, but even
if we have the money, we're not gonna pay you
to go away, because it you're gonna go retire and
buy an island and do whatever you want with that money.
If that's how this unfolds. But why if we're gonna
do that, that's gonna screw over the rifle team, that's
gonna screw over the volleyball team. That's gonna screw over
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soccer and tennis and all these other programs that are
fighting and getting to the point that the baseball team
is experiencing right now, making history in their own sport.
So it was a tricky, tough situation that we were
all kind of a polarizing is as polarizing of a
decision as we've ever come across, maybe even in the
history of UK athletics, but at least in recent memory.
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But it was a calculated decision that landed on you
know that it ended up working out that cal found
his fresh start. He knew that he needed to, you know,
his messaging was falling upon deaf ears. He needed somebody
else to kind of get that message through, and this
basketball program found the exact guy to hit restart, you know,
reset and get that fresh start on our end. It
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worked out as perfectly as it could have, even though
it was kind of an ugly toxic situation initially.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
I think if you ask Mitch what the most frustrating
thing has been, it wasn't about losing to Saint Peter's.
It wasn't losing to Oakland. It was probably your basketball
and your football programs being at war with one another
for a moment there and then the fans going back
and forth with it like that. That's not what you
want as an athletic director, like you want the everyone's
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in this thing together. You want to build to back
this program, back this program. You don't want to be
taking shots at one another. And that was just an
unfortunate time there when that happened. And I don't think
that anything really ever fully recovered from there. I think
the fans recovered. It wasn't as much well this is
a basketball school as a football school thing. But I
know Mitch that was not a moment that he was
proud of, Like he didn't want to have to deal
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with that that day they had that press conference. You
did not want to have to go to bat for
his football program against his basketball program. I know that
was probably one of the toughest things that he's had
to do.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
And that's why it's been so crucial in you know,
heartwarming even if you want to go that far to
see how things have unfolded since then, where Mark Pope
is showing up to football in IL events and I'm
sure tomorrow or you know, Saturday, at the NIL event
with Club Blue, I guarantee you the football program is
going to be there and support and you know there
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is those two things need to be intertwined. All of
the sports need to be in support of one another
because they're all trying to accomplish the same goals. They're
all trying to win national championships and make the University
of Kentucky the best you know, global brand. Imaginable if
you're having two sides bickering at one another and having
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this back and forth, you know, tug of war, that
doesn't accomplish anything. So that was so important and why
it's been so you know, fresh and you know, good
feeling after that all unfolded and seeing the way Mark
Pope has embraced that, the way Mark stoops during his
NIL event, bringing Mark Pope up on stage and saying, hey,
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we're in this together. That it is such a good
thing and it's just a refreshing feeling to have that
and not feel like you got to pick sides and
be well, if you're pro basketball, you're anti football. It
should never get to that point. It should have never
been that, but it got to that point. So it
was just the best thing that could have happened for everybody.
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Love Cal what he brought to the table, the memories
that we created together at Kentucky. You know, those will
never be recreated. That is that era will always be
remembered fondly on my end. But that's not to say
that it wasn't time for a fresh start either, and
we were able to get that. Thank goodness, and you know,
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I'm glad we finally got to approach that. Let's hit
this break. We'll come back, answer a couple more calls.
Can't wait for that if I'm not two two eight seven,
we be back right after. This is sources they take
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Sean Smith having a blast. Can't believe the show is
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flying by as quickly as it is. Give us called
eight five nine two eight oh two two eight seven.
Just a couple quick more segments to go before we
get Andrew Carr on. We're gonna hopefully get him on
at eleven forty on through the rest of the show,
so very very quick window, but we're going to hit
them as they come. Let's go back to the phone line.
We have Bob on.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
Good morning, what's going on? I have two days? You
talk about the sharks. I said it was Cali Perry
was swimming in the ocean, a shark beab in the
butt went the rest today, asked for presidents to get
the taste of his mouth, and the cal Perry BYO.
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I think Mitch is trump Cardy. He helped kel Perry
to his contract if he stayed with Kentucky. His legacy
was sinking faster than the Titanic. To give you a
chance to build it back, he had to leave Kentucky.
I think it's for Mitch helt the cord on him. Anyway,
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It's good to hear your show. Interesting, have a good day, Bob.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Great great stuff there.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I think it was just a matter of you know,
you kind of made your bed and I'll go lay
in it. I know it's kind of a dating back
to the Pat forty store, you know, kind of ironic
dating back to that, but it kind of did get
to that point of we're not going to throw you
a lifeline of paying you for some of these you
know that this recent underwhelming you know, postseason success. So
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let's you know, we gave you this contract in good
faith so you could follow through with it and you know,
get the reward of having you know, being the king
in that seat. You know, do with that of what
you know, what you want.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
No one saw when that contract was signed the next
five years, no one predicted that to play out the
way that it did. The ship was sinking, there were
sharks in the water. No pun intended cal Cal thought
he had boogey man. He just had sharks in the
water and they smelled blood. And once it got to
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a certain point, Jack, I just don't think there was
any coming back from it. I think each year just
felt like a a heavier weight on this program's shoulders,
and it was good for not just Kentucky, but I
think Cal to get it off his back.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Too, And like I like John Caliperry, I do. I
it's a weird position to be in. And I've talked
about this on our own show because do you know
it's gonna be hard for me to root. I won't
root against big Z, I won't root against a do theory.
I won't root against DJ Wagner. Do I hope Arkansas
loses games? You know, finished behind Kentucky. Absolutely. It's a
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really unique weird spot to be in where doing this
job you kind of develop personal relationships and with the
guys that are now supposed to be your sec rival. Like,
I just don't operate that way. It's tough for me
to do in a vacuum. Do I hope John Caliperry
finds success and closes out his career on a high note.
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I do, but not at the expense of Kentucky, you know.
I hope Kentucky goes undefeated and wins every single game
by one hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But like it would be a cool.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Turnaround story to see Cal makeup for some of these
you know, recent downfalls, just to see that messaging get
across to the new you know, I do. I believe
a lot of the stuff that Arkansas fans believe right
now when Cal says that it's going to be this
or that, you know, I almost pity them for like
buying into some of the phrasing. But in a vacuum,
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I do wish him the best and want him to
kind of go out on a high note, not see
his legacy kind of tank. I think part of it
is having the right people around him. I don't think
he's made great decisions in terms of staff going down
to Arkansas, and that's you know, another topic for another day.
But I do hope things turn around and his legacy
is saved a little bit by the fresh start Arkansas.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
I certainly don't think that taking what you were doing here,
if it's not working here, it's not gonna work in Fatteville,
and taking the same thing with you to Faytteville. I
just feel like that's a major risk, and I think
that that's what he's doing here. But as you said earlier,
I like John Caliperi. I've told you multiple times I
set in on a number of those early prexes in
his time at Kentucky when I was first breaking through
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into coaching. One of the most interesting minds in basketball,
the way that he would do things. He coached with
an edge. I think that edge went away in the
back half, and we'll see if he can find it
in Fatteville.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Eight five nine two eight seven. Let's go back to
the phone line. We have Jimmy, Hey, it's going on.
Speaker 11 (21:03):
Jimmy, Yeah, Grant one coach is going to show up,
show up them off, and do we play Indiana. I'll
get out there.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Thanks, great stuff there, Jimmy. No, Kentucky does not play
Indiana this year. That starts the year after. I believe
I have no idea about that second question. The first question,
that's a really really unique situation. I you know, is
there a situation where both coaches are there where Pope
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is there in support of the Shepherd family because he
has every right to be there in support. I mean,
that's family to him, but it's also Cal and they
have their tight relationship.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I hope that's the case. I think it helps that they.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Are friendly and seeing them at some of these recruiting
events be you know, rubbing shoulders and shaking hands and
giving hugs like they are friendly. It does open the
door for might be awkward looking on the outside end.
But as long as she, you know, read in the
Shepherd family feel comfortable with. Reid's Big Day is a
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top five pick. I just don't want it to become
a distraction. Distraction, don't make it about you or Kentucky
versus Arkansas or Cal versus Pope.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's a it's Reid's day.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And however, you know, maybe that maybe that leads to
neither of them showing up, but it needs to be
about Reid. But I think there is a door slightly
open for both of them being there and being cordial.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yeah. The last the last night of the Calipira era
is the NBA draft. That's when it officially closes. When
these guys go, that's when it all ends. I don't
know on Pope, but I would expect at least a
quote or some type of release from Pope about more
guys from Kentucky going to the NBA. And I think
he's going to embrace all those guys that have left
in the last few years.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Absolutely. A five nine two ah two two eight seven.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Were coming up on our next break, our next our
next segment is gonna be really really short to get in,
get out so we can have Andrew Carr on for
the rest of the show. So get those calls in
very quickly. A five nine to two two eighty seven.
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Speaker 5 (23:54):
We have like two two minutes, very very quick segment
before we're going to get out get Andrew Carr on
for the rest of the show. So let's go straight
to the phone line and wrap this up with John.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Well.
Speaker 10 (24:07):
I could have talked for fifty minutes, but uh about
my disdain for John cal Perry. It's not only his
his uh, his winnings and losses on the losses on
the floor. It's his constant rhetoric, smart ass uh talking
talking down to the fans. Also a quick question, what
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do you think about uh uh ms Parnhart And like
you talked about his you know he wants to have
overall program which is which is beautiful, but what about
the cat now they're going to have when they're actually
paying uh players from the university. I would I could
see some ad saying well, I'm going to cut out
this program, this program to have a stronger three or
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four programs.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, great call there, Sean John appreciate that. Yeah,
I think it's something to keep in mind. I think
you're going to have to kind of come up with
that recipe in formula to make sure everybody stays competitive.
And I still think there are going to be avenues
with traditional NIL that's not just going to be straight
up pay for play that we've been seeing. So the
guys that are the high profile brand, guys that are
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deserving of their own NIL money, they're going to still
get it. So I think that's something to keep in mind.
Where if you do see a more even balance of
the overall athletic department landscape, just know that that's still
going to reflect with the guys that need their money
that you need to bring in high profile kids with
recruiting and all that. That's still something to keep in Mindshy,
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I think it's going to be evenly balanced.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I think so as well, And obviously everything that we're
navigating in college basketball college athletics. There were going to
be a couple of years there with all these changes
to kind of go through them and see where we
need to adjust and things and then have maybe some
more structure with what it's going to look like. But
look college athletic directors right now, what they've had to
navigate the less through four years and all these changes.
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Full time job became almost two full time jobs with
all that like that, it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, And I think that's why, as uncomfortable as it
was as it was unfolding, I think that was something
they had in mind because they knew that was coming
down the pike. The movement was already in motion where
you just couldn't make a financially crippling decision for your
athletics department. Right before all this stuff was about to unfold,
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we're seeing the you know, Big twelve being turned into
the All State twelve with the idea of revenue sharing
and saying, hey, well, we got to get this money
somewhere somehow, that's where we're going to start. So it
was kind of one step ahead of the curve where
everything really did work out the way it was supposed to.
In the final decision. As weird as it was unfolding,
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it kind of reached the end destination that we were
all looking for. So glad, glad it worked out that way.
Let's go ahead, get out of here. We will have
Andrew Carr on the other side of the break. Can't
wait to have him on. We'll be back right after
this is This is the Sources Say Takeover on Kentucky's
Ports Radio. Welcome Back Sources Say Podcast Takeover on Kentucky
Sports Radio. Jack Pilgrim here with Sean Smith and now
(27:05):
very excited to bring on Wake Forest Transfer in current
Kentucky Forward Andrew Carr on the show.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Andrew, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (27:12):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Very excited to have you on.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Hey, guys, how's it going. It's awesome to meet you.
And I'm super excited to be here and really excited
about the opportunity and everything and great to talk to
you guys today.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Well, Andrew, your journey to Kentucky was obviously unique, starting
at Delaware, making your way to Wake Forest and then
you have your crazy trip to Lexington for your official
visit before ultimately committing. Just what has that process been like,
you know, just the journey, the visit and then just
kind of getting to where you are right now, where
you can kind of get settled in now officially a Wildcat.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
Yeah, you know, definitely. I think for me, wasn't really
a highly recruited kid coming out of high school, so,
like you said, a little bit different, a little bit
different path, but my dreams never changed. Always coming out
of high school, you know, every kid wants to wants
to put on the Way and Blue and go to Kentucky.
So you know, it took me a little while to
(28:11):
get there, but still still pretty awesome to be able
to do so and super excited. You know, at the
end of the day, I think for me, going through
going through my journey, my college experience, with a lot
of a lot of tough decisions that I've had to
make and that that have led me here, it's been
really hard to you know, move on and leave, leave
the places I've had great experiences at. And you know,
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when I did decide to leave Wake, you know, Kentucky
was gone, and it kind of made my decision pretty easy.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
You know.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
The visit was awesome, and like you said, a little
little chaotics trying to uh put in a bunch of
visits and in three three visits in three days, so
didn't try to try our best not to get off schedule.
But you know, Coach Pope really made a great impression
driving himself out to visit in US and it was
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really cool for me, you know, just to be able
to spend that time with him trying to relax lacksadaisical,
kind of not really in a formal setting and just
kind of you know, chopping it up and talking for
a couple of hours and in the middle of the
night as we're as we're driving home. So it was
really special. And and you know, I'm loving it here
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in Lexington. It's a great spot, settling in wonderfully and
getting to meet and hanging out with the guys as
much as possible. So it's been really great.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
And on that note, I think you were probably Mark
Pope's worst kept secret, a guy that he was very
outspoken about, saying, I gotta have this guy my roster.
He was made to play for me in this system.
What did it mean to you that he a went
to those lengths to secure your commitment. But to have
a guy that believes on you, believes in you that much.
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Your final season of eligibility to say, I gotta do
whatever it takes to land this guy because he needs
to play for me.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Yeah, you know, I think that means a lot. And
you know, for me, it's it's my it's my last chance.
My last year, only got one year. So that was
really important when I'm trying to make my decision, is
you know, I'm leaving a great experience, a positive experience
for me. We wanted to make sure that I was
going to a situation that I would be able to
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contribute and and you know, impact winning at the highest
level and chase championships and and you know that's what
we're doing here at Kentucky. And you know, I think, uh,
see a lot of myself and and Coach Pope, And
it was really cool. You don't really find that very
often in head coaches, especially in college, just to really
be able to you know, be with someone who has
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experienced it and and at your position kind of similar games,
similar style and and so that was really appealing to me.
And and you know allowed us to to get super close,
super fast, which was, uh, which was amazing.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Andrew, we know that that Mark Pope has an exciting system,
especially on the offensive end of the floor. What did
you see the first time when you turned on that
tape and looked at some of those things that that
you would be doing.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
Yeah, you know, I thought it was it was really cool.
Coach Pope does a really good job of breaking down
the film and what he wants to see on offense
and super analytical guy, and and you know that was
that was really you know, allowed me, in a process
that happened so quickly, to be able to evaluate kind
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of the style of play, which I felt like was
the most important thing when trying to make my decision.
So Coach Pope breaks down the analytics and says, hey,
you do this really well. You'll be able to do
it even better in this system because we do X,
Y and Z. And you know, when when the coach
breaks it down to you like that, I think, you know,
it really allows you to be able to see how
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you're going to be able to contribute and and and
for me making the next steps. You know, Coach has
always his his offenses of out a lot of shooting threes,
and and you know he's able to infill so much
confidence in his players to be able to go out
there and shoot a high volume and high percentage. So
it's definitely something that I'm looking forward to standing to
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work at, continuing to grow and and you know, really
be able to act in on the shooting and make
that next step there.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Andrew, He's talked a lot about comparing your role to
Lori Marketing and just kind of saying he's going to
have a lot of shots, that a lot of stuff
is going to be run through him. How would you
describe your game? Do you like that comparison, and what
do you think you personally will be bringing to the table,
uh in mar Pope's offense.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Yeah, No, I definitely definitely love that, uh comparison. You know,
Larry Marketing is unbelievable player and a star in his
own right in in Utah. Now, So uh, for me,
I think I think my game has been able to
continue to develop each and every year. I feel like, uh,
you know, uh work really hard to be able to
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sharpen things that I might not be as good at,
you know, in the off season, to really to allow
that to translate to the game. So I'm super excited
to be able to you know, come off staggers and
down streets, curl and and pop, rifle back and things
like that to create shots not only for myself, but
it's really important for me to be able to cut
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hard and you know, get a shot for someone else,
my teammates and and you know, be awesome to be
surrounded by such amazing guys who can also you know,
shoot the heck out of the ball, and it'll be
it'll be really special and and really difficult to guard.
And we're all out there.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
So, Andrew, you've played a lot of college basketball, multiple stops,
and gained a lot of experience throughout this game. How
can you use those past experiences to to help you
in this transition for this one final season and here
at Kentucky.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
Yeah, you know, I think my experience has has allowed
me to mature and grow not only just you know,
as the best ball player, but you know, on and
off the court, to try to take a professional mindset
to it as much as possible, and you know, try
to carry a lot of my teammates and a lot
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of these guys with the leads, you know, by example
on and off the court. And I think for me,
I know that you gotta be you gotta be ten
toes in in my experience with college and in order
for for everybody to get the most out of out
of your teammates, out of your coaches, out of the
experience and everything that you're looking for. You gotta be
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you gotta be all in. And you know, I think
for me only being here one year, there's only there's
only gonna be one way to do it, and that's
going to be all out, one hundred percent embracing embracing
the fans, which are just with itself pretty special obviously,
and then obviously just embracing Lexington, embracing teammates and coaches,
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kind of go at it full and and give it
everything we got to be able to have the most
success we possibly can.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Andrew, your name comes up almost always when when the
discussion of who's flying under the radar, who's going to
be the guy that we're talking about most by the
end of the season, you know, kind of a guy
who could emerge as the star. And I know you
you're probably humble, humbly, uh you know, deny that, but
you get you get a lot of that praise. Who
would you say is flying under the radar for this
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roster that you think isn't being talked about enough or
you know, somebody that you've seen earlier. Obviously, you guys
haven't got gotten into the you know, nuts and bolts
of the workouts and and all that. But who's the
one guy that you think fans will be talking about
more than they are right now by the end of
the year.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Hmm, that's a that's a great question. I think I
would have to say probably, uh, probably Brandon Garrison. You know,
he's been, uh, he's been awesome. You know, he's the
younger guy, been trying to, you know, hang out. You've
been hanging out a whole bunch and getting to know him,
and you know, he's he's just a really special guy.
Always happy, fun, easy, easy going. And I think he'll
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be really great on the court. I think he's gonna
be able to expand his game, shoot it a little bit,
and just you know, the physical tools are are obviously
there for him, and I think he'll be able to
really make an impact on this team in this line
under the radar right now, Andrew.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
There's a lot of balance to your game, especially when
you look at the offensive end the floor and you
can shoot the ball. You can obviously, you can watch shots.
Is there a specific area of your game though, that
you're looking to improve in this final season and maybe
when you look at this system, do you have confidence
in maybe an area of your game improving just from
being in Marpope system.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Yeah, definitely. I think if we're gonna talk offensively, kind
of a little bit of two things. One would be
just being able to feeling more comfortable putting the ball
on the floor and you know, being able to kind
of each each year get a little bit more a
little bit more comfortable with that. But uh, you know,
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I feel like I put in the work to be
able to work come ball handling and you know, grab
a rebound, to push the floor and and things like that.
So being able to do that in in this offense,
they are encouraging and feeling the confidence for me to
be able to do that. And then also I think
just being able to kind of kind of like you said,
you know, kind of facilitate the offense a little bit
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more and kind of show my ability to to create
for others. I think, you know, one of the one
of the strengths of my game is basketball IQ and
being around the game for for a long time, so
being able to utilize that read the defense and really
find my fine teammates and and while I'm facilitating a
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little bit more, I think that will just naturally happen
through this, through the system and through my for my
last year. So super excited about that.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
There's so many different personalities, you know, twelve different guys
coming from different places and you know, different age ranges.
It just got I don't know if you've seen such
a you know, wide range of different and you know,
personalities coming together.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
How has that process been the move in?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
You know, obviously over the last week or so, you
talked about hanging out with some of these guys and
you guys sharing the like minded goals of the you know,
understanding the assignment, winning a national championship and embracing those expectations.
But just in terms of those personalities coming together, how
are you guys meshing up to this point? How excited
are you guys to see that kind of translate into
on court chemistry.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
Yeah, you know, that's uh, that's really special. I think
that's probably my favorite part. And you know kind of
what what uh you're looking for within the team, just
kind of creating the bond with your teammates and it's
been the most fun for me being able to you know,
you got, like you said, kind of everybody's coming from
different experiences. A lot of people came from another school
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and a couple from high school, and so for me,
it's been a lot of fun trying to you know,
you know, be able to impact each person and have
a connection with each person. Try to and it's going
to be different with everybody, But you think, I think
as an older guy, as a leader, I think it's
important for me to be able to you know, kind
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of be able to bond and and treat that chemistry
off the court with everybody, be able to you know,
have have that connection which will lead to the on
the court things. And I think, you know, the more
time we spend together off the court, I think that
will continue to help us on the court as well.
And you know, as we talked about coach posts offense,
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a lot of it is is read and react, and
you know, you don't really know with the flow offense
what people are going to do. So the better we
get to know each other off the court and what
they like to do. And then as we continue to
play on the court, I think we'll be able to
really you know, hit our stride when it, when it matters,
We'll continue to get better. You know, every day we
we play with each other, every day we we hang
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out with each other. So I just am super excited
to continue to get to know these guys and when
Amar gets to campus here and and get to embrace
in and get to know him as well, which will
be uh, which will be awesome.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Yeah, tomorrow, Tomorrow is your al's first kind of meet
and great opportunity to hang out with the fans.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
How cool is that for you?
Speaker 5 (40:10):
And how excited are you to you know, kind of
meet Big Blue Nation for the first time and kind
of be welcomed into the La Familia family.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
Oh man, that's uh, that's gonna be awesome. I'm I'm
really really excited about that.
Speaker 11 (40:23):
I think.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
I think it's it's been crazy, you know, since I've committed,
the fans have just shown so much love to us
to get a new post on social media about us
and the whole team and whatever it is each and
every day now, and you know, I think it's I
think it's awesome they're able to embrace us and and
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for for one of the first things that we get
to do as a team, to create a camp for
the community kind of get to know some a Big
Blue Nation. I think is is really special for all
of us and and you know, I think it shows
obviously how much the community meets the means to us,
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but also how much the fans and everything you know
meets us players too. Is Uh, we're able to embrace
you guys and you know, and and be part of
Big Blue Nation as as soon as we're all together,
which is I think a really really special opportunity. And
I'm super excited to get to know you guys and
and for you guys to get.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
To know me a little bit Andrew, awesome stuff, man.
We got to get out of here. Thank you so
much for coming on. And I'm excited to meet you
tomorrow and I'm sure the fans are as well.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Can't wait. Shout out Big Blue Nation.
Speaker 11 (41:39):
Man, Thank you.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
I appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Awesome man, Sean, just a couple couple of seconds here.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
How awesome was that? It doesn't get much better?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Now you can tell that that's a guy that's got
a lot of experience and going to be a leader
in this program, going to be probably a captain of
this team. And well spoken, and that's a guy that
you you want. Definitely in the fold here.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah, and I know tomorrow is going to be a
really cool opportunity fans get to meet and greet with
the players and coaches for the very first time, So
make sure you get on out to that.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's been a blast.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Can't believe the show flew by as quickly as it
as it did three years straight man. Thank you so
much to Matt. Thank you for the KSR platform. This
has been an absolute blast. We will be back, I
guess on our platform. He'll find us on the KSR
YouTube page. We will see you next time.
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Well come back.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It is not Matt Jones, it is Jack Pilgrim and
Shaun Smith for the Sources Say Podcast Takeover Day on
Kentucky Sports Radio. Our third consecutive year. Very excited and
you know, grateful and appreciative to be back our third
straight year. It's it's always a blast, always a lot
of fun. First hour flu By, I can't even believe
that we're already starting our number two. Give us call
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eight five to nine two eight h two two eight seven.
We want to hear from you. We have Andrew Carr
coming up at eleven forty. You will not want to
miss that one. He's going to talk about his wild
journey to Lexington, seen as one of the you know,
maybe sneaky picks for most valuable player on this this
upcoming roster. We'll hear about how things are going move
in process, and I believe workouts start in the next
(01:48):
couple of days, so we're gonna start getting videos and
you know, updates on how things are going, how the
team is coming together. And I believe, uh, tomorrow is
the last player moving in a Mary Williams will be
moved in and right in time for the meet and
greet with Club Blue.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That's gonna be a blast. We'll be out there.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I can't wait to go, you know, kind of mingle
see the fans as our first big NIL event where
you know, kind of the fans and the players and
staff get to come together and kind of, you know,
start this new era of Kentucky basketball off on the
right page. So a lot a lot of fun stuff
coming down the pike. But sean kind of on that note,
with Andrew Carr coming up as a sneaky player that
(02:26):
that you know, known as potentially an MVP candidate for
this upcoming roster, let's talk a little bit about like
superlatives I want to see. We'll talk about lineups, but
who is the player that isn't being talked enough about
right now that you think by this point next year
or you know, obviously just leading up to the season,
it is going to be the one that has kind
(02:47):
of taken over this team and is one that you
know is going to be a difference maker that decides
what this team can do in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
And that's a tough question because so many of these
guys are unknowns to all all of us that I
think you could probably say three or four guys and
be right with it. But obviously, to me, Andrew Carr
is the guy that I think has that breakout potential
that could go to another level. I'll take a Oway
is another guy in this system and the way that
this roster's pieced together that I think can really pop
(03:17):
just because you've got spacing around him. A guy that
can touch the paint, do it off the bounce, can
make Stan steel shots, be a really really good perimeter
lockdown defender. Like I think, he can do a lot
of things in a lot of different areas, So I'll
take it. Ohway is also a guy that I think
could really break through and have a big year, But
Andrew Carr is my guy for the breakout performer, the
(03:37):
guy that just kind of takes it to another level
that we are talking about. But like I said, you'll
get a little talk here to get a little talk there,
because there's just so many unknowns about what these guys
actually are going to be at Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
It reminds me so much last year remember when Reed
Shepherd he was the guy that everybody thought would be
a contributor, Like, hey, you know, he's not being talked
about enough McDonald's All American top forty recruit in the country. Like,
we know he's a talented piece, but just what level
of contribution will he be able to make in year one?
The whispers with early workouts were read's a guy like
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Reid as a dude who is going to be a
you know, high level contributor for us. But was it
going to be as a twenty point per game score
or was it going to be as a surefire top
five pick. We didn't know what that gap was, and
nobody thought on the latter end of you know, being
almost guaranteed to be a top five pick at this point.
So a guy to me like Andrew Carr is approaching
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that territory for me where there's so much buzz about
him being a guy who could break through that it's
almost expected at this point that you know, you know
that he's going to be a reliable piece, so much
built around him. Mark Pope has talked about him every
single interview that he's done, saying that guy was made
for me. He you know, we like Kobe brea greatest
shooter in the last decade in college basketball. Kirk Crease
(04:57):
is going to be a fan favorite like he's talked
a lot in you know, hyperbolic about a lot of
these guys. Of he's the best at this, he's the
best defending, lockdown defender in college basketball. But the guy
he always kind of circles back to is Andrew Carr
as the man. A lot of our stuff is going
to be run through him, a lot of He's going
to be taking a lot of big shots for us,
(05:18):
So I think we should start to expect that. But
beyond that, I have this hunch about Colin Chandler, man, like,
this is a guy that was so highly touted coming
out of high school ends up at BYU with consensus
top thirty kid. I saw him on the AAU circut
a sum of the Pengos All American Camp, thinking, man,
why is this guy going to BYU. He's you know,
he's he's a guy, he's he is going to be
(05:40):
a contributor at some point. The way things unfolded, he
ends up in Lexington. Obviously, the one thing to watch
is his two year transition period after you know, taking
his mission trip. It's going to be an adjustment up
to the season. I think talking to some people around
the program, talking to people close to college and you know, he's.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Out of shape.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
He's not in game shape in the slightest. And it's
my understanding that there's like a six to eight week
ramp up period for kids in similar situations that they
you know, they had a system down pat in at
BYU for you know, the a number of kids that
have done the exact same thing, and it takes once
they get on campus a firm six to eight period
week period to kind of get things rolling and get
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back to game shape. He'll be fined by the regular season.
I don't think we'll hear a lot of the buzz
about man. That's the guy to keep an eye on
for now because he is so behind. But when he
makes up that ground and finds his footing, I think
he has legitimate explosion potential. At least in year one
is a contributor, same vibe with Reed. Shepherd gonna be
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a contributor in year one in my opinion, and then
I think in year two he's going to be and
you know, end up being a lottery potential type type
of talent. I think Colin Chandler has a really really
bright future in Lexington.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah, I do too, And and there's so many guys
that that you look at on this ross that you
can kind of say, okay, like what do we expect
to be them to be now? And there's pieces here
that you look and see that Okay, I could I
could envision multiple years with this guy? Will take it? Ohway,
he's got multiple years of eligibility left, you know, Colin Chandler, Like,
there's some pieces here that you can kind of see
(07:17):
and do they outperform early expectations and maybe do so
well that they're not here long term? That's always that's
never a bad thing. But I'm with you on Chandler, like,
when we he's the name, I think that gets lost
the most just because he's freshman. But he's older. He's
an older freshman, So how does that help him? I
(07:37):
know that he's not had the time and the thing
that some of these other guys have had coming into this,
But where is he when this thing gets started here
in a couple of days, and then where is he
when the season gets here in November? But I like
that pick from you. I think that that's one that
to really keep an eye on as well.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Let's go back to the phone lines eight five, nine
to two two eight seven, we have Joel.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Hey, guys, I'm a Kentucky and I'm a Kentucky and
transplant to gold Freeze, Florida. So I want to answer
your sharp question, and then I want to ask you
all the question uh that when you and I haven't
had the first hand experience, thankfully, but I thought about
it enough that if you get a sharp one of
the things I haven't heard anybody say is is flee.
(08:20):
And I've watched like like, calmly move away. That's what
I'm gonna do because I've I've watched people panic and
you they go eat and things that are in distress.
So anyway, flee calmly. And now I'll beat the living
crod out of it if if I don't flee comly.
(08:41):
And then on the jellyfish, keep a bottle of white
vinegar and you're talking about the urine. Help that white
vinegar does a trick as a at the local and
then watch riptides and that's my p s A announcement.
The rip tides out here get more people than than
sharks and jelly So my question for you Kentucky, like
Kentucky by I'm really excited about it. But and I'm
(09:02):
glad you guys are talking of basketball. I'm on board now.
I wasn't so happy when Cal was there, so I'm
glad he's gone. Kentucky sports though, you know, we're tops
in the nation in gymnastics we had, we had national
team titles shot there, men's tennis national title shot. Our
football team on the rise, still hopeful, and I thought
(09:23):
they were kind of taking you know, a bigger, bigger
limelight when Cal was dimming. Our volleyball team won a
national championship, rival team one. We got track and field Olympians,
we got women's basketball, really excited about that. Our softball
team is not good anyway. The question for y'all is
why can't we be more than a one sports team?
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Why are why do we.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
Have to be?
Speaker 7 (09:45):
I know history says it's Kentucky basketball and you're a
one sport team. But times are changing and why or
why not? And I'll go ahead and hang up. Let's
tell answer that one.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Thanks Joel, awesome stuff there. He gets our Don Franklin
call to day, obviously appreciate the advice on the ocean.
Great insight from an on site expert there, and he
brings up a point that I think I want to
kind of share some some insight on the coach cal
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departure and why that exact take was so important for
Mitch Barnhart when deciding whether or not to fire him
after the season ended. So that is so important for
Mitch to have such a well rounded athletics department where
when it comes to a thirty million dollar buyout to
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fire a guy who has been underwhelming up to that point,
and you demand more and expect more, and you're trying
to find that middle ground of how do you demand
more without you know, kind of putting your money where
your mouth is and getting rid of him, knowing that
there were people that wanted to put the funds together
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to get rid of him and start fresh and end up,
you know what we got anyway with a fresh start elsewhere.
But when you have a thirty million dollar decision of
that magnitude, and we have seen since the revenue sharing
with the NCAA and now schools are going to be
paying these kids directly, that was such a crucial part
of that decision for Mitch that ended up deciding Kyle's
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fate that he was not going to fire col not
because Mitch didn't expect more, and that there was a
demand for more around the program, but he wasn't going
to screw over these other programs around the athletics department
that deserve that money that is in the pot. But
why pay somebody to go away in one sport when
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there's so many other deserving people of new uniforms, new
upgrades with facilities. Knew this, knew that, like it is
so important for Mitch to have a well rounded athletics department,
and it has become that because he does doesn't want
to be identified as a one sport program. That's exactly
the reason why we got into the tough, tricky situation
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with cal this offseason where you want more, but even
if we have the money, we're not gonna pay you
to go away, because it you're gonna go retire and
buy an island and do whatever you want with that money.
If that's how this unfolds. But why if we're gonna
do that, that's gonna screw over the rifle team, that's
gonna screw over the volleyball team. That's gonna screw over
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soccer and tennis and all these other programs that are
fighting and getting to the point that the baseball team
is experiencing right now, making history in their own sport.
So it was a tricky, tough situation that we were
all kind of a polarizing is as polarizing of a
decision as we've ever come across, maybe even in the
history of UK athletics, but at least in recent memory.
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But it was a calculated decision that landed on you
know that it ended up working out that cal found
his fresh start. He knew that he needed to, you know,
his messaging was falling upon deaf ears. He needed somebody
else to kind of get that message through, and this
basketball program found the exact guy to hit restart, you know,
reset and get that fresh start on our end. It
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worked out as perfectly as it could have, even though
it was kind of an ugly toxic situation initially.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
I think if you ask Mitch what the most frustrating
thing has been, it wasn't about losing to Saint Peter's.
It wasn't losing to Oakland. It was probably your basketball
and your football programs being at war with one another
for a moment there and then the fans going back
and forth with it like that. That's not what you
want as an athletic director, like you want the everyone's
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in this thing together. You want to build to back
this program, back this program. You don't want to be
taking shots at one another. And that was just an
unfortunate time there when that happened. And I don't think
that anything really ever fully recovered from there. I think
the fans recovered. It wasn't as much well this is
a basketball school as a football school thing. But I
know Mitch that was not a moment that he was
proud of, Like he didn't want to have to deal
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with that that day they had that press conference. You
did not want to have to go to bat for
his football program against his basketball program. I know that
was probably one of the toughest things that he's had
to do.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
And that's why it's been so crucial in you know,
heartwarming even if you want to go that far to
see how things have unfolded since then, where Mark Pope
is showing up to football in IL events and I'm
sure tomorrow or you know, Saturday, at the NIL event
with Club Blue, I guarantee you the football program is
going to be there and support and you know there
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is those two things need to be intertwined. All of
the sports need to be in support of one another
because they're all trying to accomplish the same goals. They're
all trying to win national championships and make the University
of Kentucky the best you know, global brand. Imaginable if
you're having two sides bickering at one another and having
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this back and forth, you know, tug of war, that
doesn't accomplish anything. So that was so important and why
it's been so you know, fresh and you know, good
feeling after that all unfolded and seeing the way Mark
Pope has embraced that, the way Mark stoops during his
NIL event, bringing Mark Pope up on stage and saying, hey,
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we're in this together. That it is such a good
thing and it's just a refreshing feeling to have that
and not feel like you got to pick sides and
be well, if you're pro basketball, you're anti football. It
should never get to that point. It should have never
been that, but it got to that point. So it
was just the best thing that could have happened for everybody.
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Love Cal what he brought to the table, the memories
that we created together at Kentucky. You know, those will
never be recreated. That is that era will always be
remembered fondly on my end. But that's not to say
that it wasn't time for a fresh start either, and
we were able to get that. Thank goodness, and you know,
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I'm glad we finally got to approach that. Let's hit
this break. We'll come back, answer a couple more calls.
Can't wait for that if I'm not two two eight seven,
we be back right after. This is sources they take
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Sean Smith having a blast. Can't believe the show is
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flying by as quickly as it is. Give us called
eight five nine two eight oh two two eight seven.
Just a couple quick more segments to go before we
get Andrew Carr on. We're gonna hopefully get him on
at eleven forty on through the rest of the show,
so very very quick window, but we're going to hit
them as they come. Let's go back to the phone line.
We have Bob on.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
Good morning, what's going on? I have two days? You
talk about the sharks. I said it was Cali Perry
was swimming in the ocean, a shark beab in the
butt went the rest today, asked for presidents to get
the taste of his mouth, and the cal Perry BYO.
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I think Mitch is trump Cardy. He helped kel Perry
to his contract if he stayed with Kentucky. His legacy
was sinking faster than the Titanic. To give you a
chance to build it back, he had to leave Kentucky.
I think it's for Mitch helt the cord on him. Anyway,
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It's good to hear your show. Interesting, have a good day, Bob.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Great great stuff there.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I think it was just a matter of you know,
you kind of made your bed and I'll go lay
in it. I know it's kind of a dating back
to the Pat forty store, you know, kind of ironic
dating back to that, but it kind of did get
to that point of we're not going to throw you
a lifeline of paying you for some of these you
know that this recent underwhelming you know, postseason success. So
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let's you know, we gave you this contract in good
faith so you could follow through with it and you know,
get the reward of having you know, being the king
in that seat. You know, do with that of what
you know, what you want.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
No one saw when that contract was signed the next
five years, no one predicted that to play out the
way that it did. The ship was sinking, there were
sharks in the water. No pun intended cal Cal thought
he had boogey man. He just had sharks in the
water and they smelled blood. And once it got to
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a certain point, Jack, I just don't think there was
any coming back from it. I think each year just
felt like a a heavier weight on this program's shoulders,
and it was good for not just Kentucky, but I
think Cal to get it off his back.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Too, And like I like John Caliperry, I do. I
it's a weird position to be in. And I've talked
about this on our own show because do you know
it's gonna be hard for me to root. I won't
root against big Z, I won't root against a do theory.
I won't root against DJ Wagner. Do I hope Arkansas
loses games? You know, finished behind Kentucky. Absolutely. It's a
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really unique weird spot to be in where doing this
job you kind of develop personal relationships and with the
guys that are now supposed to be your sec rival. Like,
I just don't operate that way. It's tough for me
to do in a vacuum. Do I hope John Caliperry
finds success and closes out his career on a high note.
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I do, but not at the expense of Kentucky, you know.
I hope Kentucky goes undefeated and wins every single game
by one hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But like it would be a cool.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Turnaround story to see Cal makeup for some of these
you know, recent downfalls, just to see that messaging get
across to the new you know, I do. I believe
a lot of the stuff that Arkansas fans believe right
now when Cal says that it's going to be this
or that, you know, I almost pity them for like
buying into some of the phrasing. But in a vacuum,
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I do wish him the best and want him to
kind of go out on a high note, not see
his legacy kind of tank. I think part of it
is having the right people around him. I don't think
he's made great decisions in terms of staff going down
to Arkansas, and that's you know, another topic for another day.
But I do hope things turn around and his legacy
is saved a little bit by the fresh start Arkansas.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
I certainly don't think that taking what you were doing here,
if it's not working here, it's not gonna work in Fatteville,
and taking the same thing with you to Faytteville. I
just feel like that's a major risk, and I think
that that's what he's doing here. But as you said earlier,
I like John Caliperi. I've told you multiple times I
set in on a number of those early prexes in
his time at Kentucky when I was first breaking through
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into coaching. One of the most interesting minds in basketball,
the way that he would do things. He coached with
an edge. I think that edge went away in the
back half, and we'll see if he can find it
in Fatteville.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Eight five nine two eight seven. Let's go back to
the phone line. We have Jimmy, Hey, it's going on.
Speaker 11 (21:03):
Jimmy, Yeah, Grant one coach is going to show up,
show up them off, and do we play Indiana. I'll
get out there.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Thanks, great stuff there, Jimmy. No, Kentucky does not play
Indiana this year. That starts the year after. I believe
I have no idea about that second question. The first question,
that's a really really unique situation. I you know, is
there a situation where both coaches are there where Pope
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is there in support of the Shepherd family because he
has every right to be there in support. I mean,
that's family to him, but it's also Cal and they
have their tight relationship.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I hope that's the case. I think it helps that they.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Are friendly and seeing them at some of these recruiting
events be you know, rubbing shoulders and shaking hands and
giving hugs like they are friendly. It does open the
door for might be awkward looking on the outside end.
But as long as she, you know, read in the
Shepherd family feel comfortable with. Reid's Big Day is a
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top five pick. I just don't want it to become
a distraction. Distraction, don't make it about you or Kentucky
versus Arkansas or Cal versus Pope.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's a it's Reid's day.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And however, you know, maybe that maybe that leads to
neither of them showing up, but it needs to be
about Reid. But I think there is a door slightly
open for both of them being there and being cordial.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yeah. The last the last night of the Calipira era
is the NBA draft. That's when it officially closes. When
these guys go, that's when it all ends. I don't
know on Pope, but I would expect at least a
quote or some type of release from Pope about more
guys from Kentucky going to the NBA. And I think
he's going to embrace all those guys that have left
in the last few years.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Absolutely. A five nine two ah two two eight seven.
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Speaker 5 (23:54):
We have like two two minutes, very very quick segment
before we're going to get out get Andrew Carr on
for the rest of the show. So let's go straight
to the phone line and wrap this up with John.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Well.
Speaker 10 (24:07):
I could have talked for fifty minutes, but uh about
my disdain for John cal Perry. It's not only his
his uh, his winnings and losses on the losses on
the floor. It's his constant rhetoric, smart ass uh talking
talking down to the fans. Also a quick question, what
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do you think about uh uh ms Parnhart And like
you talked about his you know he wants to have
overall program which is which is beautiful, but what about
the cat now they're going to have when they're actually
paying uh players from the university. I would I could
see some ad saying well, I'm going to cut out
this program, this program to have a stronger three or
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four programs.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, great call there, Sean John appreciate that. Yeah,
I think it's something to keep in mind. I think
you're going to have to kind of come up with
that recipe in formula to make sure everybody stays competitive.
And I still think there are going to be avenues
with traditional NIL that's not just going to be straight
up pay for play that we've been seeing. So the
guys that are the high profile brand, guys that are
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deserving of their own NIL money, they're going to still
get it. So I think that's something to keep in mind.
Where if you do see a more even balance of
the overall athletic department landscape, just know that that's still
going to reflect with the guys that need their money
that you need to bring in high profile kids with
recruiting and all that. That's still something to keep in Mindshy,
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I think it's going to be evenly balanced.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I think so as well, And obviously everything that we're
navigating in college basketball college athletics. There were going to
be a couple of years there with all these changes
to kind of go through them and see where we
need to adjust and things and then have maybe some
more structure with what it's going to look like. But
look college athletic directors right now, what they've had to
navigate the less through four years and all these changes.
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Full time job became almost two full time jobs with
all that like that, it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, And I think that's why, as uncomfortable as it
was as it was unfolding, I think that was something
they had in mind because they knew that was coming
down the pike. The movement was already in motion where
you just couldn't make a financially crippling decision for your
athletics department. Right before all this stuff was about to unfold,
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we're seeing the you know, Big twelve being turned into
the All State twelve with the idea of revenue sharing
and saying, hey, well, we got to get this money
somewhere somehow, that's where we're going to start. So it
was kind of one step ahead of the curve where
everything really did work out the way it was supposed to.
In the final decision. As weird as it was unfolding,
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it kind of reached the end destination that we were
all looking for. So glad, glad it worked out that way.
Let's go ahead, get out of here. We will have
Andrew Carr on the other side of the break. Can't
wait to have him on. We'll be back right after
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Sports Radio. Jack Pilgrim here with Sean Smith and now
(27:05):
very excited to bring on Wake Forest Transfer in current
Kentucky Forward Andrew Carr on the show.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Andrew, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (27:12):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Very excited to have you on.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Hey, guys, how's it going. It's awesome to meet you.
And I'm super excited to be here and really excited
about the opportunity and everything and great to talk to
you guys today.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Well, Andrew, your journey to Kentucky was obviously unique, starting
at Delaware, making your way to Wake Forest and then
you have your crazy trip to Lexington for your official
visit before ultimately committing. Just what has that process been like,
you know, just the journey, the visit and then just
kind of getting to where you are right now, where
you can kind of get settled in now officially a Wildcat.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
Yeah, you know, definitely. I think for me, wasn't really
a highly recruited kid coming out of high school, so,
like you said, a little bit different, a little bit
different path, but my dreams never changed. Always coming out
of high school, you know, every kid wants to wants
to put on the Way and Blue and go to Kentucky.
So you know, it took me a little while to
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get there, but still still pretty awesome to be able
to do so and super excited. You know, at the
end of the day, I think for me, going through
going through my journey, my college experience, with a lot
of a lot of tough decisions that I've had to
make and that that have led me here, it's been
really hard to you know, move on and leave, leave
the places I've had great experiences at. And you know,
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when I did decide to leave Wake, you know, Kentucky
was gone, and it kind of made my decision pretty easy.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
You know.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
The visit was awesome, and like you said, a little
little chaotics trying to uh put in a bunch of
visits and in three three visits in three days, so
didn't try to try our best not to get off schedule.
But you know, Coach Pope really made a great impression
driving himself out to visit in US and it was
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really cool for me, you know, just to be able
to spend that time with him trying to relax lacksadaisical,
kind of not really in a formal setting and just
kind of you know, chopping it up and talking for
a couple of hours and in the middle of the
night as we're as we're driving home. So it was
really special. And and you know, I'm loving it here
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in Lexington. It's a great spot, settling in wonderfully and
getting to meet and hanging out with the guys as
much as possible. So it's been really great.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
And on that note, I think you were probably Mark
Pope's worst kept secret, a guy that he was very
outspoken about, saying, I gotta have this guy my roster.
He was made to play for me in this system.
What did it mean to you that he a went
to those lengths to secure your commitment. But to have
a guy that believes on you, believes in you that much.
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Your final season of eligibility to say, I gotta do
whatever it takes to land this guy because he needs
to play for me.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Yeah, you know, I think that means a lot. And
you know, for me, it's it's my it's my last chance.
My last year, only got one year. So that was
really important when I'm trying to make my decision, is
you know, I'm leaving a great experience, a positive experience
for me. We wanted to make sure that I was
going to a situation that I would be able to
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contribute and and you know, impact winning at the highest
level and chase championships and and you know that's what
we're doing here at Kentucky. And you know, I think, uh,
see a lot of myself and and Coach Pope, And
it was really cool. You don't really find that very
often in head coaches, especially in college, just to really
be able to you know, be with someone who has
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experienced it and and at your position kind of similar games,
similar style and and so that was really appealing to me.
And and you know allowed us to to get super close,
super fast, which was, uh, which was amazing.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Andrew, we know that that Mark Pope has an exciting system,
especially on the offensive end of the floor. What did
you see the first time when you turned on that
tape and looked at some of those things that that
you would be doing.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
Yeah, you know, I thought it was it was really cool.
Coach Pope does a really good job of breaking down
the film and what he wants to see on offense
and super analytical guy, and and you know that was
that was really you know, allowed me, in a process
that happened so quickly, to be able to evaluate kind
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of the style of play, which I felt like was
the most important thing when trying to make my decision.
So Coach Pope breaks down the analytics and says, hey,
you do this really well. You'll be able to do
it even better in this system because we do X,
Y and Z. And you know, when when the coach
breaks it down to you like that, I think, you know,
it really allows you to be able to see how
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you're going to be able to contribute and and and
for me making the next steps. You know, Coach has
always his his offenses of out a lot of shooting threes,
and and you know he's able to infill so much
confidence in his players to be able to go out
there and shoot a high volume and high percentage. So
it's definitely something that I'm looking forward to standing to
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work at, continuing to grow and and you know, really
be able to act in on the shooting and make
that next step there.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Andrew, He's talked a lot about comparing your role to
Lori Marketing and just kind of saying he's going to
have a lot of shots, that a lot of stuff
is going to be run through him. How would you
describe your game? Do you like that comparison, and what
do you think you personally will be bringing to the table,
uh in mar Pope's offense.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Yeah, No, I definitely definitely love that, uh comparison. You know,
Larry Marketing is unbelievable player and a star in his
own right in in Utah. Now, So uh, for me,
I think I think my game has been able to
continue to develop each and every year. I feel like, uh,
you know, uh work really hard to be able to
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sharpen things that I might not be as good at,
you know, in the off season, to really to allow
that to translate to the game. So I'm super excited
to be able to you know, come off staggers and
down streets, curl and and pop, rifle back and things
like that to create shots not only for myself, but
it's really important for me to be able to cut
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hard and you know, get a shot for someone else,
my teammates and and you know, be awesome to be
surrounded by such amazing guys who can also you know,
shoot the heck out of the ball, and it'll be
it'll be really special and and really difficult to guard.
And we're all out there.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
So, Andrew, you've played a lot of college basketball, multiple stops,
and gained a lot of experience throughout this game. How
can you use those past experiences to to help you
in this transition for this one final season and here
at Kentucky.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
Yeah, you know, I think my experience has has allowed
me to mature and grow not only just you know,
as the best ball player, but you know, on and
off the court, to try to take a professional mindset
to it as much as possible, and you know, try
to carry a lot of my teammates and a lot
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of these guys with the leads, you know, by example
on and off the court. And I think for me,
I know that you gotta be you gotta be ten
toes in in my experience with college and in order
for for everybody to get the most out of out
of your teammates, out of your coaches, out of the
experience and everything that you're looking for. You gotta be
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you gotta be all in. And you know, I think
for me only being here one year, there's only there's
only gonna be one way to do it, and that's
going to be all out, one hundred percent embracing embracing
the fans, which are just with itself pretty special obviously,
and then obviously just embracing Lexington, embracing teammates and coaches,
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kind of go at it full and and give it
everything we got to be able to have the most
success we possibly can.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Andrew, your name comes up almost always when when the
discussion of who's flying under the radar, who's going to
be the guy that we're talking about most by the
end of the season, you know, kind of a guy
who could emerge as the star. And I know you
you're probably humble, humbly, uh you know, deny that, but
you get you get a lot of that praise. Who
would you say is flying under the radar for this
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roster that you think isn't being talked about enough or
you know, somebody that you've seen earlier. Obviously, you guys
haven't got gotten into the you know, nuts and bolts
of the workouts and and all that. But who's the
one guy that you think fans will be talking about
more than they are right now by the end of
the year.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Hmm, that's a that's a great question. I think I
would have to say probably, uh, probably Brandon Garrison. You know,
he's been, uh, he's been awesome. You know, he's the
younger guy, been trying to, you know, hang out. You've
been hanging out a whole bunch and getting to know him,
and you know, he's he's just a really special guy.
Always happy, fun, easy, easy going. And I think he'll
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be really great on the court. I think he's gonna
be able to expand his game, shoot it a little bit,
and just you know, the physical tools are are obviously
there for him, and I think he'll be able to
really make an impact on this team in this line
under the radar right now, Andrew.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
There's a lot of balance to your game, especially when
you look at the offensive end the floor and you
can shoot the ball. You can obviously, you can watch shots.
Is there a specific area of your game though, that
you're looking to improve in this final season and maybe
when you look at this system, do you have confidence
in maybe an area of your game improving just from
being in Marpope system.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Yeah, definitely. I think if we're gonna talk offensively, kind
of a little bit of two things. One would be
just being able to feeling more comfortable putting the ball
on the floor and you know, being able to kind
of each each year get a little bit more a
little bit more comfortable with that. But uh, you know,
(36:57):
I feel like I put in the work to be
able to work come ball handling and you know, grab
a rebound, to push the floor and and things like that.
So being able to do that in in this offense,
they are encouraging and feeling the confidence for me to
be able to do that. And then also I think
just being able to kind of kind of like you said,
you know, kind of facilitate the offense a little bit
(37:18):
more and kind of show my ability to to create
for others. I think, you know, one of the one
of the strengths of my game is basketball IQ and
being around the game for for a long time, so
being able to utilize that read the defense and really
find my fine teammates and and while I'm facilitating a
(37:39):
little bit more, I think that will just naturally happen
through this, through the system and through my for my
last year. So super excited about that.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
There's so many different personalities, you know, twelve different guys
coming from different places and you know, different age ranges.
It just got I don't know if you've seen such
a you know, wide range of different and you know,
personalities coming together.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
How has that process been the move in?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
You know, obviously over the last week or so, you
talked about hanging out with some of these guys and
you guys sharing the like minded goals of the you know,
understanding the assignment, winning a national championship and embracing those expectations.
But just in terms of those personalities coming together, how
are you guys meshing up to this point? How excited
are you guys to see that kind of translate into
on court chemistry.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
Yeah, you know, that's uh, that's really special. I think
that's probably my favorite part. And you know kind of
what what uh you're looking for within the team, just
kind of creating the bond with your teammates and it's
been the most fun for me being able to you know,
you got, like you said, kind of everybody's coming from
different experiences. A lot of people came from another school
(38:48):
and a couple from high school, and so for me,
it's been a lot of fun trying to you know,
you know, be able to impact each person and have
a connection with each person. Try to and it's going
to be different with everybody, But you think, I think
as an older guy, as a leader, I think it's
important for me to be able to you know, kind
(39:08):
of be able to bond and and treat that chemistry
off the court with everybody, be able to you know,
have have that connection which will lead to the on
the court things. And I think, you know, the more
time we spend together off the court, I think that
will continue to help us on the court as well.
And you know, as we talked about coach posts offense,
(39:29):
a lot of it is is read and react, and
you know, you don't really know with the flow offense
what people are going to do. So the better we
get to know each other off the court and what
they like to do. And then as we continue to
play on the court, I think we'll be able to
really you know, hit our stride when it, when it matters,
We'll continue to get better. You know, every day we
we play with each other, every day we we hang
(39:51):
out with each other. So I just am super excited
to continue to get to know these guys and when
Amar gets to campus here and and get to embrace
in and get to know him as well, which will
be uh, which will be awesome.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Yeah, tomorrow, Tomorrow is your al's first kind of meet
and great opportunity to hang out with the fans.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
How cool is that for you?
Speaker 5 (40:10):
And how excited are you to you know, kind of
meet Big Blue Nation for the first time and kind
of be welcomed into the La Familia family.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
Oh man, that's uh, that's gonna be awesome. I'm I'm
really really excited about that.
Speaker 11 (40:23):
I think.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
I think it's it's been crazy, you know, since I've committed,
the fans have just shown so much love to us
to get a new post on social media about us
and the whole team and whatever it is each and
every day now, and you know, I think it's I
think it's awesome they're able to embrace us and and
(40:47):
for for one of the first things that we get
to do as a team, to create a camp for
the community kind of get to know some a Big
Blue Nation. I think is is really special for all
of us and and you know, I think it shows
obviously how much the community meets the means to us,
(41:08):
but also how much the fans and everything you know
meets us players too. Is Uh, we're able to embrace
you guys and you know, and and be part of
Big Blue Nation as as soon as we're all together,
which is I think a really really special opportunity. And
I'm super excited to get to know you guys and
and for you guys to get.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
To know me a little bit Andrew, awesome stuff, man.
We got to get out of here. Thank you so
much for coming on. And I'm excited to meet you
tomorrow and I'm sure the fans are as well.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Can't wait. Shout out Big Blue Nation.
Speaker 11 (41:39):
Man, Thank you.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
I appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Awesome man, Sean, just a couple couple of seconds here.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
How awesome was that? It doesn't get much better?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Now you can tell that that's a guy that's got
a lot of experience and going to be a leader
in this program, going to be probably a captain of
this team. And well spoken, and that's a guy that
you you want. Definitely in the fold here.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah, and I know tomorrow is going to be a
really cool opportunity fans get to meet and greet with
the players and coaches for the very first time, So
make sure you get on out to that.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's been a blast.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Can't believe the show flew by as quickly as it
as it did three years straight man. Thank you so
much to Matt. Thank you for the KSR platform. This
has been an absolute blast. We will be back, I
guess on our platform. He'll find us on the KSR
YouTube page. We will see you next time.
Host
Matt Jones
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