2024-09-17- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 6 (01:05):
Back our number two Kentucky Sports Radio here at the
Chos Bar and grill. Where are you folks from? They
just walked in here? Gosh in Kentucky?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:15):
Where's that is that northern just north of Louisville. That's right, Okay,
got you gosh in Kentucky. We got Princeton, Kentucky. Got
the guy who made our banners up here. Our final
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doing my trivia by the way, not tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
But next Wednesday.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
I decided because I'm a little bit exhausted that I
I was gonna do it next Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
So we've changed the schedule so it.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
Get your team for next Wednesday, gives us another week
to uh, to get ready and to go before we
get back. We got to talk about something your former coach,
Drew said. But first our former coach, Yeah, First, I
gotta say something about this meeting today, Shannon.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, No, don't say it. I don't want to know
about it.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
So me, you're supposed to be on it, but I didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Know about it till just a couple of minutes ago.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
So I get this.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
So we have a mandatory company wide iHeart meeting Zoom
that is called how to grow your Audience.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Mandatory. Do you know how little I want to go
to this?

Speaker 5 (02:30):
We can assume you don't have to physically go to it.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
It's on Zoom. First of all, I'm gonna have to
tell I don't have Zoom. I don't have to I
don't have Zao. Why do we have to go to this?
First of all, there are many things you could say
about this show, but the last thing I need is
someone in LA to tell me how to grow my audience?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Like, for real, I can't.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
I don't say this to be rude, but let's go
see what that person's audience is.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
How many followers you got by yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
How many? How many social media followers you have?

Speaker 6 (03:12):
How many people were at You're remote on Friday after
the worst loss in Stoop's history. How many of your like,
how many people came up in Green Bay from another state?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Like?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Do you know how little I want to go to this?

Speaker 7 (03:24):
We guessed when we saw the email that you were
going to be on Well on the low.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
End plot twist, Matt Jones is actually hosting it.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
He just doesn't know it.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
I'm not hosting it. I've never understood the idea. I
said this one day to someone in the company that's
not with the company anymore.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
They were saying to me, we need.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
To talk about how to substantially engage with your audience.
And I was like, no, we don't. I said, I
know I can do it better than you can. You
don't even have a show.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
That was always my thing with program directors. We used
to have to go in and do air checks and
analyze everything. And I'm going like, well, if you know
how to talk in the radio better than I do,
why don't you have a bigger show than me.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Look, I get it. If no one is listening to
your show, I get it. Yeah, like help them. I'm
fine with that. But you know there's somebody in a suit.
Tell When I first started ESPN, they would do it.
And finally I said to my boss at ESPN, who
I like he was in He was in Green Bay
with this. I can't do this anymore. I was like,
you don't host a show, so you know I don't

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mean this to.

Speaker 7 (04:36):
Be rude, but no, you don't take golf lessons from
someone who doesn't go.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
That's exactly right. Okay, I'll tell you what. If Tiger
Woods or John Rahm wants to give me a golf lesson,
I'll listen. But if you're John Rahm and then I
come and try to give you a lesson, come on,
so you.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
Are yeses or no. I'm gonna have my camera on,
I'm gonna have my tie on, I'm gonna be ready
to go.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I've said for many years the bane of our existence
in his business are consultants. They try to tell us
how to do our show from California, and they don't
know have any idea how to do a show in Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Look at you hate in California.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
All right, let me read you what your former coach,
Drew John cal Perry said that a feeling, that's the
coach you were going forward. John cal Perry was apparently giving.
And he does this to this is to his credit.
He did this in Kentucky. He does it.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
He brings high.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
School coaches in the state, yep who want to come
kind of learn how to coach. He has like a seminar,
and that's really.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Good of him.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It is really good. It is really good him.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
He did that in Kentucky for many years and then
he's doing it in Arkansas, so so I give him
credit for that. He said, quote, Well, this isn't quote.
This is Kevin McPherson of our hoop Scoop.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
That's the name of the site, r R A R.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
Not just like our hoopscoop, like a pirate pirate basketball reporter.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Oopscoop, he says.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
John Caliperry said has said the analytics era that embraces
threes and layups while poop pooing mid range is faulty logic.
When asked how why, he pointed to I have thirty
former players with max NBA contracts as proof that having
the middle game matters, thoughts.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
That's why if he had stayed here, we get a
lot of the same. It have been a lot of
the same. And yeah, those guys are making max contracts.
But the game has changed. It changes, it involves all
the time. You have to stay up with keep up
with it. And up to this point, I thought he
was really good at.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Doing that, and that that two sentence period is exactly
why it wasn't gonna work. Because if we're gonna talk
faulty logic, that is the faultiest life. The faultiest logic
you can make in life is I've had success, so

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as time changes, it's still gonna continue. The faultiest logic
is I have VCR tapes. They work. I don't need streaming.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
That's why you gotta go to a meeting about expanding
your brand.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
All right, touchee ok, company boy.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
But I don't think this person's gonna be gonna be
saying that. But I'm serious about that. Also, he makes
a logical leap that isn't true. He says, I have
thirty guys with max NBA contracts. True? And do I
think he deserves credit for those I do? Yes, yes,
I do. People who don't give him credit and say, well,
they were good when they got here, that's not fair.

(07:50):
But I will say this, I think one of the
things we've learned is having thirty NBA contracts does not
mean you're gonna win in college basketball.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Right that correlation?

Speaker 6 (08:01):
He thinks because a guy gets to the NBA, he's
gonna win a college basketball title, And we have learned
that that is not the same.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
And I'll also note who are his best players in
the NBA right now?

Speaker 6 (08:15):
Okay, Anthony Davis, who's a superstar, but it's not because
of mid range jumpers, right, Devin Booker, who's a superstar,
but he shoots a lot of threes, Tyres, Maxi superstar threes,
Carl Towns superstar, won the NBA Three Point Contest and

(08:38):
did not shoot any.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Threes here, Tyler Hero.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
All these dudes found their their mojo in the NBA.
Almost every guy just mentioned is better in the NBA
than he was when he was here.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
I mean, how many cow players.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
Let's be honest, we're at the top of college basketball
when they were here a right, John Wall was, Yeah,
DeMarcus was, Anthony Davis is the has been good, really
really good at both Booker's a better NBA player than
he was a college player. Shay is a better NBA
player than he was a college player. Maxi is a

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better NBA player than he was a college player. Even
Carl is a better NBA player than he was a
college player.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Hero.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
So he's right that those guys all can make mid
range shots, but that's not why they're good. They're good
because they can get to the rim and shoot threes,
which guess what is modern basketball? Right, And that sentence
where he basically says analytics is faulty because I have

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guys in the NBA is a good recipe to lose
to Oakland and Saint Peter's Drew again.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah, and the whole bring up your NBA player those
don't even correlate, like they're not taking midrid. I mean,
you've got a couple guys that can make him, but PJ.
Washington once he taking like five or six threes a game. Yeah,
So I mean clearly disagree with this point, like that
most people do spacing and basketball is the way to go.

(10:18):
But just bringing up your NBA contracts kind of has
nothing to do with that and didn't really prove the
point for me at all.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
I Mean, if the question is can John Caliperry produce
NBA players, there's a strong argument there's never been a
coach in the history of college basketball who's been better
at it than that. Maybe John Wooden and Mike Krzyzewski.
But John Wooden and Mike Krzyzewski have something he didn't,
which is how much they want in college right, and

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and don't get me wrong, Cal won a lot, but
he thinks that correlation is one to one and it's not.
And because he's not gonna change that, it's gonna be
more of the same. Yep, I mean it's gonna be
more of the same. Now, that doesn't mean he's gonna
lose to Oakland or Saint Peter's, but he will never
take last year's team. Last year's team was the most

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efficient team he's ever put and he had three of
the most efficient players to ever play at the school,
Rot Reed Shepherd, Antonio Reeves, and Rob Dillingham. In fifty years,
there's gonna be a version of me doing this show.
That's gonna look back historically and goes man. That twenty
twenty four team had three of the six best three
point shooters in history on the team.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Is this right? Is this right?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Grandpa?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
They lost? They lost to Oakland. How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
That the team all get sick that day?

Speaker 6 (11:39):
And they're gonna answer, Wait a minute, they were the
thirty fourth lineup.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
He played the most What that's what's gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, makes me even feel a little sad for Big Z,
a guy that probably could excel in a different you know,
set up different offense. If he's gonna get stuck trying
to shoot mid range jumpers.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
Well, think about this, let's use Oscar. Oscar developed an
amazing mid rate. I mean, if you go back and look,
Oscar shot a pretty amazing percentage on free throw line jumpers.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
How many NCAA tournament games did he win one?

Speaker 6 (12:18):
How many SEC titles did he win this zero? How's
he doing in the NBA?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
That game?

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Oscar's twenty years too late if Oscar played twenty years.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Before, different situation.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
But Oscar is a perfect example of Oscar is about
as good as you can be playing a style that
you cannot win with anymore. Right, yep, he is the
best at that style. But that style does not drew
when you college basketball games anymore. Or I would argue
NBA basketball games.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
Not many back to the basket centers doing a lot
these days. And I think about you just mentioned on
bed for Big Z. If he really makes him step
inside the three point line and take long twos, I
would feel so bad for the guy.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
The NBA scouting report says three point shooter, but you
know man who can pass and shoot.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
But you know he will.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
Part of me is a little said, you know, I
wanted Cal gone. That was very clear, But like part
of me has said that this is how Cal's career
is ending.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
I was a huge fan of Cal at Kentucky, like
everyone listening was. And it's kind of he was in
front of things. People were yelling, don't do the one
and done. He won with it. He was kind of
came up with some concepts that were new to college basketball.
He was the first doing things like pro Day's always
this idea guy. And now it's kind of like.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
And and this is what's gonna happen In seven years,
Reed Shepherd and Rob Dillingham are gonna be really good
NBA players, and people are gonna go they didn't start.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
In college, they're already doing that.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
That's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
Yeah, and Antonio Reeves is gonna be a seventh man
on an NBA Finals team and people are gonna go.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
He lost to Oakland. I mean, I mean, like that's
gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Aren't there some Arkansas people like saying, hey man, Cal
said this the last couple years, kept saying that his
teams were built for March, and then they fail in March.
Why do we think this is gonna work here?

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Well, I mean, have you seen the There was headlines
this weekend Rockets Mini Camp, Reed Shepherd's teammates giving Steph
Curry comparisons.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
It's listen, I'm gonna be pulling for Reid like he's
my family. But it is going to drive me crazy
when he ends up being a great NBA player.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Raving about him, He's.

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Take your calls right for this Kazar welcome back, that's right, Shandon. Yeah,
this is this Kanye Yeah, yeah, don't.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Compare me to Kanye please, No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm just saying it's.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
This is Kentucky Sports Radio eight nine, two eighth, twenty
two eighty seven. Some breaking news here on three Sports reporting,
Tennessee is going to add a ten percent fee to
their ticket prices for football and basketball, a ten percent
quote talent fee to raise money to give to their players.
Talent fee. Wow, talent The thing is there. I mean,

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that's it's gonna weird, but it's actually I.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Keep thinking, that's another good idea Tennessee is.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Tennessee is at the forefront of having good ideas.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
They are stuff.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
They just are. I mean, you gotta give them a
lot of credit. And this is the part where I
look at somebody like Mitch Barnhart and say, man, you
gotta like you gotta decide do you want to embrace
this stuff or not. Now I'm not saying I want
them to raise ticket prices about ten percent to Kentucky.
I actually think a lot of fans would would not
be happy with that. But it is a creative of YEP,

(16:01):
thing to do that will probably Drew pay dividends.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Honestly.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
See reply to the story It says, so do we
get a discount on UK football season tickets?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah? No, I mean I think that.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
But here's the thing about doing that, though you lose
people are like, what am I paying for true.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
I don't like to admit how good Tennessee's been in NIL.
They were first, even though it looked like cheating, they
just did a collective and said deal with it, and
then they landed all these great players. They worked the
World Series. They had the n I L where you
would pay ten dollars for a jello shot. You didn't
have to be there, but five would go straight to
a player, and five would buy a jello shot for
a fan that was in Omaha, and people bought into that.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
They have.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
They keep coming up putting in that park that are
connecting the two stadiums that a lot of that's in
il Base.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
They've been, really they've been. I don't like it. It's
not a compliment. I don't like it. Who's up next.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Let's go to Jerry.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Jerry, how are you?

Speaker 8 (16:48):
Jerry hey Man.

Speaker 9 (16:50):
I'm going to say, first off, a little bit, I
think I think, uh, maybe we're looking at having a
lot better season as long as I did against Georgia.
But there's what sushi at the end of the game.
That's one of those deals where he doesn't criticized it
the way I mean if.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Jerry, I think if he had gone for it.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
I think if he had gone for it, you would
have heard very very few fans say criticizing.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I don't I.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
Don't know if they. If they, if they hadn't gotten
the first down and the defense stopped Georgia with those timeouts,
instead of being at the thirty or whatever, they're at
the five or the ten, and they run out the
clock at the fifty because because they.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
They ran off the clock at the fifty.

Speaker 9 (17:37):
Anyway, I'm just saying mad, you'd have been criticizing.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
I get First of all, go look at my Twitter
account the moment they punted I criticized it. You cannot
say that I would have. I said, go look at
my Twitter account the moment he did it, I said,
you gotta go for this, and then twenty seconds later
I wrote, I hate hate, hate punting in this situation.

(18:02):
So you can you made you are I'm sure right.
There might have been some fans criticizing. You are not right, Jerry,
that I would have criticized him. I wrote at the
moment that you gotta go.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
Well, Matt, I would disagree. Disagree a second, Jerry.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
You can't agree to disagree with what I would have felt.
I wrote it in the moment.

Speaker 9 (18:24):
All right, But Matt, I'm just saying that with four timeouts,
they had four time outs, w'd be different. They gets
the number one defense in the country. I can see
why he did it, but.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
It's fine.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
But but I would make a bet, and again we'll
never know this, that if you did a fan poll
at that moment, I would bet you the majority of
fans would have said, go do guess And I.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
Think that, and I think that those same fans if
he has done, if he's done the he's gonna get
criticized either way. But as far as your reception goes
officiated football too, And I grew with that other official said.
And the thing that bugs about SEC officiating has been
this way for years. When you're playing a top ten

(19:10):
Georgia Alabama Florida football team and the SEC, you're up
against the officials.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Okay, but do you let me.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
I hate when people say that, because Jerry, I've heard
you over the years. You think our basketball team gets
screwed by officials if they if the SEC wants to,
if the SEC is trying to benefit Georgia Alabama and football,
do you think they do the same thing for us
in basketball?

Speaker 9 (19:34):
Well, I don't know, but a point I'm driving at Matt.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
No, but you're skipping over.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
I'm asking you a question.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
Don't if you think right, if you think they try
to benefit the top programs in football, do you think
they do basketball? You're gonna say no, You're gonna.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
Say I'm saying, hang on, I'm not saying there's some
kind of insider conspiracy too. And this what I'm saying
is is the way they select and run their officiating
programs is it's always been a good they do.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
They do it for basketball.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
I don't know that. I've never creased that. I'm not
one that calls in all about basketball. Mat you got
to confuse to somebody else. But I'm trying to.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
I hate the mentality of everyone's always out to get
us because we take the view a lot of our
fans that the SEC favors the best teams in football,
and maybe they do, I don't know, But then when
it comes to us in basketball, we say the hate
they hate Kentucky and basketball.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
That's not that's inconsistent.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
If they favor the best teams, we should get all
the basketball calls.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
Well, here's what, Well, here's what I'm driving at is it.
I wish the NCAA since because we're making all these changes,
we get away from conference space officiating and go with
a national group of professionally paid officials football.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Right, Well, problem, I appreciate the call.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
The problem for professionally paid officials is they work fifteen
days a year, and I think it would be hard
to justify, you know, paying someone full time for fifteen
days a year.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I think there's a lot of people that think in
basketball that Kentucky gets the shafts sometimes, but in football,
with the underdog, we could get maybe favorable call. I
think it's what some people are trying to know.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
I mean, there's people who sort of believe that we
get screwed no matter what, and I just don't believe that.
I mean the interception call that caller earlier, he gave
a good argument. I still disagree with him, but it's reasonable.
But it's a reasonable disagreement. It is not the case
that the referee set there and go how can we
make it was the second quarter?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
How can we make sure Georgia wins? Right?

Speaker 7 (21:39):
Yeah, that's part of being a fan. Your team is
always the one on the wrong end, no matter what.
You're loyal and not always seeing through the right colors
or seeing through blue, and in most cases we're gonna
think we're getting screwed.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, who's up next? T? T.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
By the way, I'm I guarantee you I was mad
at the moment. I was more mad we punted in
the moment than I was after the game, because.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
You know a lot like you in that moment.

Speaker 10 (22:04):
T go ahead, Hey man, I had to address the
John Caliparty thing first.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
I have another comment.

Speaker 10 (22:10):
But if you read a John C. Maxwell leadership book, John.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Calipari did everything opposite.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
Of what a good leader would do, create an echo
chamber of yes man. He would not take any criticism.
It's just not changing with the times. I mean, it's
it's kind of sad to hear him still take this position,
even though he's gotten a new lease, you know, at
the end of his career.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
It is to me too, because you know, we always
use the example of Saban, But Saban hated to his
core switching to the Lane Kiffin style offense.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
But he went and did he did because he knew
he needed to do it.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
You know, think about think about how ridiculous we think
Dabo sounds when Dabo comes out there and goes, I'm
not taking any transfers to me. Some of the analytics
stuff Cal says sounds like Dabbo just about style of
play exactly.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (23:04):
And then I'm gonna say one thing, and it's not
gonna be bad about Drew, because I need Drew in
my corner on this one. You said something interesting a
couple of weeks ago that's been stuck in my crawl,
and uh, it's it's Burban and Beyond week. And you
said that Zach Bryan was too much a bro country
and I just have to counter that.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Man.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah, I appreciate that. I didn't say he was too
much a bro country. I said he was a little
more bro country than like Tyler.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
But I don't dislike him. I think he's fine.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
TJ Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
He'll make him pay.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.
Here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Welcome back Tukey Sports Radio. Before we get back to phones,
the Emmys were Sunday night. Ye see the shows that
won big. Let's say which ones of these have you watched? Okay,
there were four shows that won big. First of all,
the Bear. Have you seen the Bear? That's all he
went about the cooking.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, love the Bear, yes'm I love it.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Not a comedy though.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Now season three I was kind of disappointed.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
I thought you and I thought season three stump.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
And I really loved one and two, but too season
three was a huge day. Way too slow, way too slow.
You know, the Bear, I don't even he's guy on
the point where.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
I don't even like him.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
You don't want the Bear, No, I mean he just
in season chef, he's so he's just such a downer.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I I we've not talked about this. I bet you
really don't like the Fats brothers.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I can't stand those dudes.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
I knew it, those knew it. They were on way
too much. And you know, I like John Cena. But
the episode with John Cena, I was in Europe and
I was like about to just go out in the
street and start throwing stuff. They that episode was awful.
They use I guess they put those guys in to
try to make it be justified as a comedy, but
they're not funny at all.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I cannot stay.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
In and they we didn't way too much too.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Much, and they're not they're not funny. Yeah, but again
it's still a good show.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I just didn't love all right.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Second, Baby Reindeer saw that That's the Crazy Stalker Lady.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Did you like that?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I liked it? Yeah, it won a lot. Very uncomfortable
watching his show show Gun.

Speaker 7 (25:12):
It's on my list. I've heard very good things. Obviously,
if you're winning an Emmy, you're good.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
But it won. It won Best Drama, and it's supposed
to be really good.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
I didn't. I haven't seen it. And then finally, I
was so happy to see my show. The show I
think is amazing, Hacks win, Hacks won Best Comedy.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Love that show.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, you were talking about it yesterday.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
I've been a huge fan of that show. So those
were the four that I won the most. But I'm
with you on season three of The Bear hugely discip
I hope The White Lotus season three doesn't do that
to me.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Would you say it's coming out?

Speaker 4 (25:41):
I think it's like January and it's got Baby Billy
in it.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
Yeah, baby Billy, he's good in everything is Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
So if I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,
who's up next?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Chris oh, before we do Chris Roe real quick.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
One person writes, Matt when Caliberry was here, you said
he was a great coach. Now that he's last, everything
he did with stupid, No, everything he did did wasn't stupid.
He was a great coach. He's the best. He's the
best recruiter in the history of college basketball. He's one
of the great motivators in the history of college basketball.

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To get all these great players to come together and
to play together. That's a really, really special talent. And
I think he's a better He was a better coach
than people gave him credit for. But as he got older,
I started to realize. I think the lot of that
was because he surrounded himself with a really good staff
that was able to fill in the things that maybe

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weren't his strength, and then he became so stubborn. In
the end, he lost all those guys, and he lost
his and he became around a group of yes men.
And you know, that's just a fact. He lost John Robick.
But I also think it's very important to understand Orlando

(26:58):
and Tigua didn't go. You know, Orlando and Tinka didn't go.
That says something to me. John Welch didn't go.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
John left before he went Darkansas, he left before Cal left.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
I mean there's a you know, he became he lost
part of what made him great.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
And the most talented people in the world have weaknesses.
That's part of life.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Like you know this, Ryan, My weakness is I don't
like to deal with details when it comes to money.
So Hubby is that guy. If Hubby ever left, I
would be worse at everything I did because he picks
up my weaknesses. John Robic picked up Cow's weaknesses. Cows
not a game plan X and O. You know, it's

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not his focus. Robic did that. You know, Cow wasn't
the best at interacting with guys off the court. Sometimes
he could be a little hard on him. Kenny was
really good at that, like he had, these Cows not
good at dealing with bosses. Dwayne Peebe was good with that,
And so when he lost those guys, Ryan, he just
never was able to fill those voids.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
And for whatever reason, the longer he stayed here, it
seemed like the worse he got at those in those areas.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
Yes, So all right, go ahead, Chris, that's still you Chris.

Speaker 11 (28:10):
Go ahead, Sorry, hey, no, thanks for the Vine, Hey,
I'm curious and maybe you can help talk a little
bit more about this.

Speaker 12 (28:17):
But I heard on the show earlier today that that
Stoops had commented about his offense that it wasn't really
built for you know, I guess a more prolific or
high obtained opportunity in the Georgia game. And what I'm
curious about is when I've heard we have a five
star QB, we have professionals or prospects in the wide

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receiver room, when would it not be.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
They I think they wanted it to be, to be
honest with you, and I think they just the offensive
line has not allowed them to be what they hoped
in the p pass protection. I think they brought in
broadcast and you had those wide receivers because he hoped
to have a more high octane offense, but it became
very clear in that South Carolina game they don't have

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the offensive line.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Okay, all right, at least that's it.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
That's my okay.

Speaker 11 (29:10):
Well, And because I was I was just curious and
kind of taken aback when I hear a comment like
that that does he have the recognition of the talent
or does he have faith in the offensive scheme to
be able to, you know, put his faith in something
like that versus no.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think it's a fair question.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
I'm gonna guess, and this is just a guess, and
I appreciate the call. I'm going to guess there's probably
three million dollars of nil that has been put in
the quarterback, wide receiver, maybe include the tight end position.
You don't do that unless you want to get the
ball down the field. But I just don't think Ryan,

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they don't have the offensive line. And I think you
have an offensive line built for Stoop's kind of old
school football, and you have talent position players built for
a style of football that the offensive line can't do.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I think, going in like you said, they thought they
had that with the offensive line. Mean, there's a lot
of experience out there. I mean, Marcus Cox is a
seven year guy, Eli Cox is a six year guy.
Jaggers his third year. Farmer started it what Florida and Tennessee. So,
I mean they've got the guys there on the line
with a lot of experience. For whatever reason, they'd just
been able to succeed on the field.

Speaker 7 (30:21):
Yet, Yeah, we saw in the last two games. I
mean they might have ideas of having an explosive passing attack,
and I think they have the targets to go to.
But through those two games, Vandergriff does just not have time.
That play we talked about yesterday where it was there,
I mean, I like that they I mean I don't
like to wish they'd run it, but we just cox
missing that block just showed they did not have enough
time to run even a simple route that would have

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been open.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Somebody pointed out to me, you know, we talked about
the second downplay. Somebody pointed out to me, go, look
at the third down play. Guy was opening that one too,
and in that one brock Brock waited a second. He
had the time, but he kind of hitched it and
then when he threw it didn't work.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Man. Either one of those four and short.

Speaker 6 (31:02):
No, No second was a touchdown manecond one might have
been a touchdown. The third one is probably makes it
fourth and one, at which point you're definitely going forward.
There would have been no but second down. Drew's right,
that would have been a touchdown if he had been
able to complete that.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
They just haven't had the time in the last two
games for Vandergrift to do anything downfield.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Who's next, Andrew, Andrew, go ahead, Andrew.

Speaker 13 (31:28):
Hey, Matt, you know, I really like Mark Stoops. I
think he's probably the best coach Kintuch He's ever had.
But there's a part of me that just I love
how Mummy and I just wish Mark Stoops had some
how Mummy in him. He coached that Georgia game like
we had just beaten South Carolina and he was going
for a playoff first and after the South Carolina loss,

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like there's just gunsling it man.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Like, Okay, I would disagree with you on I'm okay
with how Mark Stoops coached that game.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
The vast majority of the game.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
I think if he had come out and tried to
gun sling it, we might have lost by forty I.

Speaker 13 (32:04):
Think, well, I guess, like go back to the punt
decisions specifically, like just go for it. Like Kentucky fans
will forgive a football team for being aggressive. I personally
think that in the playoff era, like if you win
nine regular season games and have a chance to win
ten in a bowl game, like you're competing for a playoffer.
But for me, personally, whether you win six, seven, or eight.

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It's all the same. You're going to a mediocre bowl
game or whatever, so like, let's be exciting if we're
going to lose some games.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
Well, I think there's a lot of people I appreciate
the call who think that.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I think Mark.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
I think Mark Stoops believes the program is better than
having to just be exciting to get people in it.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
And that's to be fair to him, that's been true
a lot of these years, the last few years.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
How Mummy would have let Georgia score when they got
the ball.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
That's an inesame question. Do you let him score? I
actually think you should have let him score. Now, you
gotta be pretty you gotta be pretty ballsy to let
him score.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, but there's an argument you let him score up one,
Mummy did it. He did.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Lem Me had a game I think it was the
Bowl game, the Music City Bowl against Syracuse. We were
down one with like a minute and a half left,
and he let him score and we got the ball
and had a chance chance to go down there and
tie the game. So I do think there's an argument,
but you would Mark's not aggressive enough to go for
it on FOURD.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
He ain't letting him.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
Score, But but how mummy would have left. I think
that's probably true. Yeah, I mean, mathematically that might have
been something to do. It seems crazy.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
I don't think most coaches would do it, but I mean,
if you're just looking at truly the analytics and numbers,
getting the ball back with more time on the clock,
trying to get a touchdown.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
I think after they recovered that fumble, I'd have let
him score.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
I mean I would have. I'd have probably said, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
What, we should guarantee you get the ball back.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
You get the ball back, and you got it. You
got a chance. Right, And uh so he.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
Likes defense way too much to give anyone free points.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
And let me let me give one compliment to Mark
Stoops what I said a minute ago about cal Stoops
is actually really good at understanding and identifying his weaknesses
and filling in the gaps.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Okay, he is good about that.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Now we can talk about does he really let his
offensive coordinator do their thing? I think that's a fair question,
especially after Liam Cohen had another great game this week.
But Mark is not a detailed guy. He is surrounded
by details. Okay, he's knows you know he and Vins
are great friends. They also fight, okay, like great friends.

(34:34):
But he Vince will be here's Longsie once because he
knows he needs Vince to do that. Mark is really
good about understanding this is not my strength. I'm giving
it to them and Mark's strength is. And Max will
tell you this. He's a great the players loving, he's
a great motivator. He's great at big picture stuff. Max

(34:54):
said before the Georgia game. I say he said it
on the air, right he goes, I wish I was
in that locker room to.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
What he says, because this is Mark Stoops at his
best in like this.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
He said one game of year, he'll break the whiteboard
before the game before he goes out. He's like, this
might be the one game.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
And so.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
The the sort of criticism I have of cal about
not knowing his weaknesses, I actually think Drew Mark's really
good at that.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
Yeah, and I don't know if it works out. But
another example that you know, Eric Wofford really did him wrong,
and for him to put that aside because he believes
he's a good coach. Yeah, through three weeks and we'll see,
but just being able to rehire that guy if he
truly thought he was the best man for the job.
To put that aside shows he's looking out for the
team for That's.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
A very good point.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Very few people would get burned by somebody and then go,
you know what, we're gonna try it again. He did that,
and I think that's I do think that's admirable. Uh,
you can if you need a touchdown or a tuddy.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Since we started calling him tuddies, we've not scored one.
I don't think that's a good point.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
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Ridiculous parlay. No, they're not hitting, but it's it's fun
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Speaker 6 (36:38):
Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio Here at ksbar and grill.
We'll be open all day. Yes, we will Reds and
Braves tonight. I expect there's probably some KSR listeners going
to that game, a lot of Braves fans that listen,
a lot of Reds fans.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
It's the only time the Braves are here all year.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Right, we got a little we just looked it up.
Grant Holmes versus Brandon Williamson. Brandon Williamson's was really good
last year and then he was hurt some of this year.
Who is Grant Homes.

Speaker 7 (37:05):
He's one of the band aids we were putting on
our rush exactly.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
It seems like.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
Every time the Brave signed someone to replace someone's injured
that person. Get the person.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
All right, Well I will.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
If you want, I will text you to updates after
every inning. Give us Brandon Holmes updates. Grant Holmes and
Brandon Williamson. Uh, but we'll but I look forward to
uh to being there. Like I said, this might be
the last last game I get to go to got
my Rids.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Hat on your hoodie? Yeah, Rids HITD to toe today.
That's exactly right. It's all all Reds.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
I want to give a quick shout out and and
prayers to people in Russell Russell County. Russell County UH
Deputy Sheriff Josh Phipps was killed last night by in
a confrontation with with a suspect. I got a lot
of messages last night from people that lived there who

(37:59):
talked to me out you know what he meant to
the community. And I'm sure more will come out today.
But our prayers to the to the people there, and
to his family. You know, we often talk about about
issues where there are problems with something that happens with
an officer or whatever, but then we also always should

(38:20):
remember things like this, which is that they put their
lives on the line, and unfortunately, a very tragic situation
in Russell Springs, Kentucky, where we've been many times very sad.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
When you hear something like that, you're right, because these
guys they walk out the door, kiss their wife, they
don't know if they're coming home sometimes and.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Five thirty in the afternoon it's five thirty in the afternoon,
so prayers out to everyone there in Russell springs into
his family and friends.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Who's up next, bus driver? Bus driver? How are you?

Speaker 8 (38:51):
I'm good, Good morning, guys.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Morning.

Speaker 8 (38:54):
I got a question to talk about the nobody's mentioned
that last couple of days Kentucky had the ball out
of the game. There very very in Why didn't they
throw to the end zone a couple of times? I
know they didn't have No.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
If he has the arm strength actually to throw at
seventy yards, I'm not sure. I have to assume he didn't,
or they would have done it at least once. I
just wonder, you know, seventy yards a long time to throw,
a long way to throw it. He may just not
have had the arm strength.

Speaker 8 (39:21):
Yes, sir, I was just wondered about that.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Okay, Yeah, we also don't have go ahead?

Speaker 8 (39:27):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Go ahead?

Speaker 8 (39:29):
Yes, sir. I want to say one thing about bus
drivers in safety. Don't pass the buses when the stop
signs out. It happens to me every other day. It's
safety of the kids.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
All right, appreciate you that good advice. I was gonna say,
we don't have a ton of tall guys. But Dane's tall.
I mean, I guess if you were going to do it,
Dane would be the one you would throw it too.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
See.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I wish they would do that, like we talked about yesterday,
even just potentially get a PI you know, now that
you're still your drives alive, you got a first down.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
But I think he's talking about on like the last place.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
Yeah, I really don't have time to protect Vandergart anyone
to get that far, that's it.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I don't know if he's got enough time to drop
back and heave it that far.

Speaker 7 (40:05):
Like Georgia, they tried the hook and ladder, hook and
ladder role, whichever you prefer. But the I think it
was a tight end maybe dingle. The moment he caught
it just got pulled down. But that looked like what
they were going for.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
I think they were at well Barryon was coming around.
Georgia shifted out pretty easily. They get a hook and
then a ladder. Yeah, but like people think it's ladder
like a thing you you climb, isn't it a he
runs a hook and a ladder roll later, but they
call it a hook and ladder.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Uh huh. He described it very well.

Speaker 7 (40:36):
I believe original coaches came out was like, there's not
a lateral or there's not a ladders. We'll call it lateral,
but I hear both.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
Yeah, I think it's it's people say ladder, but it
seems like it probably should be.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Uh uh, we only had the hook.

Speaker 7 (40:49):
Whatever you want to go.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, whatever it was, it didn't work.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
Let me ask you, do you expect a good performance
Saturday against the Ohio Bobcats.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I think this not only the fan base re energize.
I hope that locker room is re energized because they
came out with a lot of fight against Georgia, a
lot of fight, and something was missing against South Carolina.
So I hope they continue to bring that against Ohio.
I don't care just Ohio University. That's still a good
football team. MAC football is pretty good. If one luck
a couple of bowl games lately recent years, you still

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got to bring it.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Yeah, And I mean I think the defense is gonna
show up. You played Georgia like that. I think they're
gonna be great against Ohio. But I need that offense
to really make a statement. I need like high thirties
forties need to really put up points to show they can. Yeah,
you get a little bit of a built in excuse
playing number one Georgia, and I guess we'll talk about
how good South Carolina's defensive line was, but you don't
get that excuse against Ohio.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Before we get out of here, one person writes, I've
met all six of you. I'm including Billy. If I
were to rank the niceness of the six of you,
I would rank Mario one, Ryan two, Matt if he's
in a good mood. Three what it says Drew four
in five Billy and Billy is not nice at all?

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Pole?

Speaker 6 (42:06):
How do we get Billy to not be in the
last place in every pole?

Speaker 7 (42:10):
You know he does the arrogance on the radio, but
that's part of a bit. Is he this arrogant when
he's I'm gonna take up for Billy? I think he's
I think Billy's actually shot with people. I think when
when when I don't think he I think he's more shot.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Just reck unfriendliest at the top than Billy would be
number one.

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