2025-04-23- KSR - Hour 1

KSR is Live at KSBar & Grille talking Travis Perry entering the transfer portal and taking your calls for "Ask Anything Day."

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open up the phones. Whatever you want to ask. I'm
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than that, Drew, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
It's always fun when we get a little off script.
And maybe even tell some alas from the past.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yes, and I also have something in the second hour
where we're gonna play a little draft game, so just
just be ready for that. But let's start with the
big news of the day. Travis Perry enters the portal.
I'll talk about an eleventh hour thing. It happened at
like what nine to thirty last night, two and a
half hours before the portal closed. He didn't didn't make

(02:23):
an announcement. It just got I had a source tell me.
But they must have had everybody on speed dial because
everybody put it out. I thought, hey, I have some scoop,
and then all of a sudden, everybody had it at
the same time. It must have been a group text.
But nevertheless, he is in the portal. Not a shock
to me. I kind of wondered, you know, all these
other people had put out their graphics that they were
back and he hadn't, and I was kind of like,

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is it gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
You know, there was a.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
There's a person who wrote the text machine who has
written me about every two days for the last month
saying Travis was gonna come back, And fifteen minutes before
I got the text they were like, it's official now.
I wanted to be like, you've been writing me this
for two months. I guess what was it official then?

(03:11):
But he decides to leave, let's just start Ryan before
we What are your initial thoughts. I mean, this is
the all time leading scorer in the history of Kentucky
high school basketball.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
What do you make of the decision?

Speaker 7 (03:22):
You know, I'd heard there were some teams putting the
full court press on him, but the fact that he
had not made an announcement, I thought, well, he's probably
gonna come back. And the fact that it lay waited
until the eleventh hour, that just kind of tells me
on the outside of looking in it might have been
a struggle with him in the family trying to decide
what to do. Should we look elsewhere or do we
want to kind of stay in be Kentucky, be at Kentucky.
I think we owe that kid a lot of gratitude.

(03:43):
I mean, I'd hate to think where we would have
been without him after all of our injuries at point guard.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, we might have had Brandon Garrison bringing the ball before.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
What do you think true, I think he's got a
tough decision. I've heard from the moment portal season started
all the way through Monday that he didn't want to leave.
He knew his spot. It's not a competition thing, a
playing time thing. He's very aware of the situation in Kentucky,
but there are some other places that have made significant
offers and opportunities that are in front of him, and

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he has to decide, do I want to be a
Kentucky knowing I'm the thirteenth guy and there's a lot
in front of me and you know, live that dream,
or do I want to take maybe even double the
money and have a significant increase in playing time.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
So that's interesting. I heard the exact opposite, and I'm
not saying you're wrong. This may just be in the
portal era you hear different things. I heard the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I think.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
I think UK actually had kind of thought he was
coming back and like had sort of the the nil
agreement with him, but that ultimately it did come down
to kind of a playing time thing that like, especially
when they got Aberdeen, there was a sense of, well,

(04:53):
Aberdeen will probably end up being the backup point guard
when Lowe is out, and you're now at that point
kind of third string for your second year. So I'm
not saying you're wrong. You know, my source could be wrong,
but I actually heard the exact opposite of that, So
you know, I'm.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Pretty confident he's got some strong offers out there. Oh,
I'm sure there are much more than Kentucky's.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I don't think that. I don't.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
I don't think the money was why he left. I
think it, I mean there was. Well I won't go
into all the details, but I I'm sure he'll get
other offers. But but that would have been the case
back two months ago, so a month and a half
ago or whenever, whenever it ended.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
So either way, I guess it doesn't really matter. He's
he's gone.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
You know, it was interesting looking at the fan reaction online.
I think I think the general reaction is, well, I'm
sorry it didn't work out because we want this Kentucky
kid to play. But that but that people understand. I mean,
he was gonna be the thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Man on the roster last next year.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
I mean Trent Noah kind of objectively fit in better
in some ways last year. I mean, Travis, he's a
great shooter, but he didn't shoot great last year, right,
and he and he really struggles on defense, and I
it's you know, I hate to see him go because
I love having Kentucky kids play, especially one with this

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historic career he had.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
In high school. But I also think for him it's
probably the right decision.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
Yeah, you know, he got thrust into a role he
probably wasn't quite ready for. You know, he just just
got to college. He's playing a major Division one ball,
a lot of physical a lot of great point guards
in his league, and then college.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Could have been ready for it.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Do you is there a world you could have seen
Travis Perry starting point guard for Kentucky.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
Only if it's like on year three or four.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Okay, but what about on year three or four?

Speaker 7 (06:50):
He's still not the kind of physical type point guard
that we see even you know, Lamont Butler Sears fears.
These guys are this dynamite point guards. I don't know
if he was physically able to do that.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I'm not sure. Drew there's a worst league for him
than the SEC. I mean like that, this is the
worst league you could play in if you're a guy.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
That last year, I think I've said over and over,
I think we had the least athletic team in the SEC.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And it showcased itself.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
And I think that's part of the reason Mark Pope
Witten got so many more athletes.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
And I don't think he would ever be the guy
at point guard. Maybe get to where he's a solid
backup playing a lot of minutes, but just defensively, he's
just he's just not built with the athleticism that would
take to play significant minutes in the SEC. But uh,
you know, I wouldn't This isn't scoop or anything. This
is just me breading tea leaves. I wouldn't rule out
him sticking around coming back. I see it as he's
maybe it got to the last minute and just wanted

(07:43):
to buy himself some time.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Well we'll see, but I don't think that's happening. I
mean I think UK. I think UK is going to
fill that spot. I think they might fill it with
a developmental type player, like a guy who's the thirteenth
guy and understands that and it's coming in and to
maybe be a contributor in the second year or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I could see them almost even.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Doing like a reach a little bit and taking a
guy that's a little bit you know, not necessarily ranked
in the top because they just.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Think can make it work.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Maybe a guy like Tretanoa who wasn't ranked really high
last year and they still brought in. But you know,
I'd be very surprised if you hear the portal two
hours before.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I kind of think you're probably going.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
And you know, even though they brought in Aberdeen, you know,
Colin Chandler when he got his chance, kind of leap
frogged over Travis. Travis didn't play hardly at all in
their last couple of games. Because Colin got a lot
of all of his minutes. I'm sure he wants to
go and play somewhere.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
He's a competitor as a Western Kentuckier Kentuckier Western Kentuckian.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Are you are you bumped?

Speaker 6 (08:43):
I'm a little bummed, and I was surprised. Like I said,
I've heard that both sides wanted to make it work.
My assumption is he got a pretty good offer. So
if that's the case, I'm happy for him. I know
a lot of people mentioned like Bellerman, I just don't
think places like that could afford him. I don't know
nil At Yeah, I don't know even Western. I don't
know if they have I don't even know if they
could afford him. I wouldn't be shocked if he's still
in the SEC. I know when he got recruit out

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of high school. Oh Miss loved him and Florida loved him.
It'd be crazy if he went to one of those.
But I wouldn't rule either one of those out. Joe
Tipton from on three, he mentioned Cincinnati is an option.
I think he's still going to be playing at a
decently high level of basketball.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Not a lot.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Cincinna Army would make more sense to me. I just
I don't see how an old Miss or Florida could
could have watched those games and said this is and
again this is not. I'm not being critical of him.
I think he there is a place for him to
be a really good college basketball player. I'm just not
sure it's in the SEC. I think even in the
Big East there's less less athleticism than there is here

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or the Big Twelve.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
This league is just so athletic that I.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Just don't know how it works since that he's not
tall either. That's the other thing is he's sure in
addition to the to the other.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
Thing, since they would be interested, he'd be Golden be
Kirk Crease's back up up there.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Two pair to get that wouldn't be kind of interesting
to both Kerr and he went to Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Went to Cincinnati offensively, not just the shooting. I think
he can be really good running the show. It's just
the defense. I don't know we'll ever get to what
it needs to be to, you know, be a guy
that's playing a ton of minutes at a place like Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So what about the people that are frustrated? Are they?
You know? I'm confident Mark Pope didn't say I don't
want you to be here. Mark Pope wanted him to
be here.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
But there are people who say, you got to find
a way to keep the Kentucky kid on the team.
I think that was something Ryan maybe you could have
said pre and I l but I don't know if
you can say that now when you're actually talking about money,
you know what I mean, Like when you're talking about money,
like at some point you can't just say, well, you

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have to keep them. Because the thing is, when you
set one cost of a player, you're not just setting
the one, you're setting the whole roster. That's right, cause
if you play pay your thirteenth player a ton of
like the twelfth players will want more, the eleventh players
don want more, you know what I mean? Like it's
it has a it has a cascading defect.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
And you know, this is kind of a unique year
where they've got Jasper Malachi, Trent, They've got three other
Kentucky kids on the roster. So you know, I I
gotta admit it, it kind of stung a little bit,
and I just seem to think I feel bad for
him and his family if they've waited til the last
minute to try to do this, they probably really really
wanted to stay here and just think it's the best
opportunity that maybe he goes somewhere else and play.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Favorite Travis Perry moment at Kentucky.

Speaker 7 (11:32):
Uh, how about was it?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
The Uh?

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Didn't Trent Noah throw like a over the shoulder and
no look between the legs, pass or something to him
in the corner and he nailed it. That was a
big bucket. That's probably I don't one of his biggest bucket.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Who was that against? Was that against Tennessee?

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Not sure the team?

Speaker 7 (11:50):
It wasn't a rough It was on the road somewhere, wasn't.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
It that was a big play. It came in a loss,
but I thought he did about as good as he
could at Alabama for most of the game been put
in a horrible situation. There was even I rememberer. Uh
you know, he just considered a guy that shoots. He
cut back door and Amari found him on a give
and go and he finished a tough lay up. So
even though that wasn't a loss to be putting that spot,
played thirty something minutes against an All American.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, and you remember we started that game up like eleven. Yeah,
you know, we we.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Started in at Alabama and they you know, they they
pulled away, they pulled away, but like we were, we
started on a roll.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
And that was with him in that game.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
There was a moment where they called Mark Sears barely
got tapped on a three and they called a foul
and Travis gets hammered on the other end, doesn't get
a foul. So he was just in a tough spot.
But I thought he played well all things considered in
that situation.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
I mean, like I said earlier, we owly even a
lot of gratitude. Man, Well, I hate to think where
we would have been without him. After we lost. You know,
Labomp Butler, Kirk Crease to Jackson Robinson, our three point
guards that he had got forced into play as a
true freshman. That's a tough situation he got put in.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Which brings me to the second point, which is.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Well, I'd be careful I say this, Actually, Shitton, let's
take an early break.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
So I, because I don't want to rush through this,
all right, let's take an early break.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
I want to talk about there were some reports yesterday
about Kentucky's nisle roster payment and I let's just say
I'm in respectful disagreement with what with what was said,
and we'll talk about when return. This is KSR, welcome back,
and he is Kentucky Sports Radio. Just a little announcement,

(13:19):
Shannon told me during the break. I guess on kr
D in Louisville at ten thirty, they're switching to a
Louisville Bats game.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Now, you know, Shannon, that doesn't make me thrilled.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Right, Well, they got to, you know, have the game
so they can hand out the pickleball paddles to everybody
coming in.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
So that's nice, but that's even more reason not to
do it. But for those of you in Louisville. You
can switch on listen online on w LAP. But you
know who do the Bats play today? That it's so
important that we that that we get preempted from.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
I don't have to look up and see who they play.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I mean the one hundred and fifty games.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
And this is your Cincinnati Reds farm club.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
You should it's.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Fine, but it's not the Reds. This is and I
like the bad future. Okay, you hushed used to it.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
It happened several times while you were gone.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
Oh, it's happened seven Yeah, Drefaluza got interrupted twice. It
happened to Ryan last week.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Great Iowa Cubs.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Well, of course it's the Iowa Cubs. Who would who
wouldn't want to listen to that?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
All right?

Speaker 5 (14:17):
So anyway, there was a report yesterday that from from
from David Sisk. He's a he's a he worked for
Cats illustrated. I actually met him in Indianapolis, first time
i'd met him. Uh, I don't really know him, but
he came out and said that according to people he
had talked to, UH, Kentucky was spending twenty million dollars
on their nil for basketball this year and that seemed

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really hot to me. And and he even put how
much he thought each player was was uh was it was,
you know, making So let me be clear, this is
nothing against him. I'm sure if he said that he
has had someone tell me that. I can say fairly definitively.
I rarely say definitively definitively, that is not true. It

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is a substantially less number. Now, it's a high number,
it might be it. It may be the highest number
in college basketball. It probably is, but it is nowhere
near that number. So I mean, the idea that we
were gonna have a twenty million dollar roster, which will
be ten million dollars more than any other team is
just is not the case. So I just want to

(15:25):
be clear about that because I don't want people going
in the season going, oh, this guy's making this, and
this guy's making this.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's this isn't David's fault.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
But graphics were putting it out there, you know, Jasper
Johnson's making this and all these people, and I just
here's what happens with this stuff. The schools are not
gonna tell people what they're making. I can just tell you,
and I I've tried to find the information out. They're
not telling the schools are not gonna tell you I
spent with X amount of money.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Let's play a little game, Ryan. Why would the schools
not want to tell you?

Speaker 7 (15:58):
Well, because it gets out there. Then the other players
trying to renegotiate their deal exactly.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Who does have an incentive to tell you they're making
a lot of money?

Speaker 7 (16:06):
The player the agent speaking.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
The agent wants to say, I got this kid this
much money. Why so kids will go, oh, I need
to go with him. He gets them this much money.
So the agents, who are the only people talking about it,
they are exploding the figures because they want to raise
the market. If you find out that, you know, Aberdeen

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is worth two and a half million dollars, then this
kid over here will go, well, wait a minute, then
I'm not worth two and a half million dollars, and
the market for everybody rises.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So I've said this for three years. I don't believe the.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Money that anyone says about any of this. I think
the money is less than everyone says. I still I
think it's a lot more than it was two years ago.
But I think it's less than people realize. So you know,
I just want. I don't want our team next year
to have this burden of their twenty million dollar roster.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I just don't think that's true, and I don't think
it's close.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
To be honest, you also have when a school loses
on a player, they will tell people that the other
school overpaid X amount to not make it look like
you just lost the recruitment straight up head to head.
So if you miss out on a player, you also
have an incentive to be like, well, they paid x
amount to make it sound like you only lost because
the other school was overpaying. So it's players and the
losers in their recruitments. I think that inflated.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
That's exactly right, Like that you're that's another person. So
like if you're Kentucky and you lose out, or if
you're you know, Florida and you lose out on Aberdeen,
you want to you don't want to say it's because
the kid wanted to play for Kentucky more than Florida.
You go, well, he must have paid two million dollars
or else they wouldn't have left. So I just don't
believe any of the money. It's not It's not a
criticism of anybody who reports it. You know, a lot

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of these national reporters have an incentive. They want to
get information, and so the agent says, Okay, I'll tell
you about my next scoop. But say he made this
much money, right, Yeah, that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know. Remember we always joke about the Shams guy.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yes, and how Shams always says this was negotiated by
blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Why is he doing that because he wants scoop.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Get that name out.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I want scoop the next time, right.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
And you've been saying from the beginning that the numbers
out there are overinflated. They're all inflated, and it's you know,
it leads me to believe that this twenty million dollars
is overinflated. But yet I still think Kentucky has offered
a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
I still think we will have one of the three
highest quote unquote payroll. But it's not what what folks say.
What is happening downtown? There are school children and buses
and coyotes, and like coyotes, what is in downtown?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
What is going on?

Speaker 6 (18:47):
It takes me fifteen minutes to get it from behind
is it science and technology.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's why all those nerds are running.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Okay, it takes me fifteen minutes. I'll even nine to
thirty every day, never have an issue. I texted you
all just kept sitting through the same light with zero
cars moving. It was an absolute parking lot. I even
I got here two seconds before the show. I had
to pull a couple of Matt Joneses to even be
here on time. I broke broke a few laws.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
So it's a science and technology what.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
It's like a big convention rough for the students where
they come in and they all like, do egg drops? Yeah,
do their science and do their technology.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Did you all do the egg drop when you were
in school? No?

Speaker 7 (19:25):
I think we did an egg into a pepsi glass
pepsi bottle.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
What does that mean?

Speaker 7 (19:29):
Like you put a you peel a boiled egg and
you put it on top of a pepsi bottle. But
yet you stick a cigarette or burning paper.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Paper you had you had a school project that involves cigarettes.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
You know, this is the eighties, you know it was
going way back. And then they would suck the boiled
egg through the top of a pepsi bottle.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (19:49):
The you lit a cigarette, that's why you did it
at home.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
But you do it at home. They encourage you to
do that at home.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, okay. You know they used to have pepsis
to come in those glass.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Bottle They still have those in Europe. That's what they use.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
The yes, but go ahead, So you boil an egg,
peel the skin off of it, the shell, and you
get ready to put on top of the of the bottle,
the last bottle. But first you put a piece of
burning paper down in the bottle and you put that
hard boiled egg on top of it, and it sucks
the egg right down to the bottle.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
What's it supposed to teach you? Egg sucking? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
You're egg sucking dog?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Egg sucking. Yeah, that's a good scientific principle.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
That's probably what they're doing down at Reparena.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
They should use their science to figure out the traffic pattern.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, well a cigarette?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
All right?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Who's up next?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Shame from Grayson Shane?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Go ahead, Shane.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
How the gunpowers are they good? Hey? You're talking about
the dark thing? You went too? How crazy it was?
I just a little information here from Kentucky and Carter County.
We had the at one time had the number one

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women's ranked dart thrower in the United States.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
So I'm not I'm not disputing that, shamee. But how
do you know that? Like, like, where are the work?
Where are the United States dart rankings?

Speaker 8 (21:16):
Well, there's actually a dart magazine. There's an Okay, And
how I know this is because my grandmother's next door neighbor.
She's that's her name is Sue Qualls. I talked to her.
She said it was fine to tell her name. She
was a professional dart thrower in back of the nineties
and number one United States.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Okay, but first of all, I'm sure Sue was a
great dark player. Is this Sue that told you that?
Or did you see it yourself?

Speaker 8 (21:49):
Well, it's in the magazine.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Do you have the magazine?

Speaker 8 (21:52):
I mean, I've got a coffee with my I've got
a coffee in the magazine and not in my hand.
It's in my house.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Here, Shane, Shane Shannon, are you there?

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah, I'm here, Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I got you. It looks like we lost every.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
No, I got you. No, You're good. I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, Well, where why didn't you respond? I just said
Oh well, we couldn't hear you for a minute, Shane.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
And Shane's still there too, he was still talking.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
So go ahead, Shane. Did you do have the magazine then?

Speaker 8 (22:20):
Yeah, yeah, I do have magazine in my house somewhere.
And in ninety five she represented the United States on
the World Cup team in Swortzerland.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Look at that? About that?

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Who knew that Grayson Catty had that level of of
of darts?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (22:36):
And then never dreamed it?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Right? All right, I appreciate the call. Kentucky has a
has a has a heavy dart.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
His sus a celebrity over there in Carter County.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
I apparently, as always, Sue. As I get back, my
heart just collapses. Apparently we fell off the air in
Lexi Ton. There might be baseball in Louisville. I'm still
doing this show and hopefully you'll be here when we
return this place.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
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Speaker 4 (23:05):
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Speaker 4 (23:13):
Here's Matt Jones, walk ame back.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
It is Kentucky Sports Radio eight five, nine two, eight
twenty two eighty seven. The name of the thing downtown
is the Student Technology Leadership Project.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
State Championship, OH State Championship.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
They certainly made that easy to say, the Student Technology
Leadership Projects State Championship. Six words STLPSC and it means
a lot of buses downtown and a lot of Uh. Well,
I mean, I don't want to say nerds, but nerds
one person rights, Matt. It takes a lot of golf

(23:47):
for you to call kids nerds. You were dancing with
Janet Reno. There's nothing nerdier than that.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
No, that was hot.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
Well, we've seen the photo. I don't know how the
right word I would use.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
No, I mean that Janda Reno, she was the attorney general.
You think about it. I mean you could have you
could go and Alberta. I dance with all Attorney General
Alberto Gonzales and you.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
And Alberto were dancing and Alberto electric slotting Pam Bondieu.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Who was who was Biden's attorney general? Oh, Merrick Garland.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
I've I don't know if I've danced, but I've had
a beer with Mary.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Wow. You know I I do things with the attorney generals.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
And you are you have kind of self proclaimed king
of the nerds. You know, you know, you know, you
don't hide the factory nerd.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
There's nothing wrong with being wrong with be like, don't
let you know.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
You can't be made to feel bad Ryan unless you
participate in it.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
Oh, I read that philosophy.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
You can't be made to feel lesser unless you participate
in it. You can't feel lesser unless you actively allow
that to happen.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
Which brings me up. You asking anything Wednesday? Can I
ask you a question?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sure if you want?

Speaker 7 (24:58):
You're not You talked about what you did in after Dam.
You don't talk about the fellowship and you know one
time you do a play, did you what did you
do in your fellowship this time?

Speaker 5 (25:05):
So we did a lot of read that. The topic
of this was like it was a heavy set of stuff.
It was actually about like when leadership can turn nasty.
You know, we were there where the Holocaust is, so
we sort of spent a lot of time studying like
how did when Hitler was in charge, Like he didn't
just start and just start killing the Jews. It was

(25:27):
a process, like he got people to accept little things
along the way that at the end almost everybody would
have said, that's awful, but they slowly desensitized themselves by
agreeing to stuff along the way, and then all of
a sudden they were like, well, people are like, wait
a minute, where's this going. So we were studying how

(25:49):
that happens, not just in the Holocaust but throughout history.
And uh, like, we read a book. Okay, this was
an entry we had. We read a little book. Here
was the story.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
It was called the Visit.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
And this woman she had been like, this man in
town had gotten her pregnant and then disappeared. And when
he disappeared, she became like a billionaire. Okay, and so
this is an old book, so let's just say now
she became like, we're twenty billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
She comes back to the town, the man is living
in the town, and she says, dear town, I'm worth
twenty billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Town. I will give you ten billion.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Dollars five billion for year city to make it the
nicest city in the world, because it had been like
run down because coal had gone away. It was actually
this is in Europe, but it was a cold town.
And I'll take the other five billion and split it
amongst the citizens.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
You each will get the five billion, and.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
They're all like, that's awesome, and she goes, but there's
only one thing you have to do. We have to
kill that guy.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
Oh my, we.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Have to kill that guy.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
And he had done something wrong, he had gotten her
pregnant and left and not supported the kid.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
So the book is about the town debates this ten
billion dollars would change our town, it would change our lives,
but we gotta kill them.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Wow. And so that was the that's the play.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
And so then you sort of talk about he wasn't
innocent and is it okay to make a thousand people's
lives better and have one person?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
So like, that's what we did. So that's it's nerdy, but.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
I think it's interesting. So is it like an open discussion,
y'all just take turns discussing it?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yes, you take away and everybody gives their opinion.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
And you know, did you want to off the guy?
Were you in for the blood money?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
No?

Speaker 5 (27:31):
I mean I'm the person who's like, what is the
old Benjamin Franklin quote, It's better for one hundred guilty
people to run free than for one person who is
innocent to be locked up.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Similarly, like, he messed up but that doesn't.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Mean he deserves to die, right, and money is not
everything you. I know Ryan would say kill the guy.
I mean, I like for like. For Ryan, it would
be easy. You give me my share of the five
billion dollars and I'm good.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
He would have pulled the trigger before the debate started.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
There wasn't even been a debate. Of course, she got
out of her mouth. So so that's so, no plays
or anything like that. We had to put on. Then
we had to put on each segment of the thing.
We had to put on a little play, and I
got the final segment. So I hosted a game show
like American Idol, where they voted on whether or not
to kill Oh.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Oh, very good, you were Ryan Seacrest.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Uh, I guess yeah, I mean I didn't call. I
called myself Matt Jones. But yes, doing plays.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
So all of us are doing plays. Rhyme.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Were you gonna do a play?

Speaker 7 (28:32):
You're gonna play this weekend?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Aren't you? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Been Friday?

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Have you learned your lines yet?

Speaker 6 (28:38):
I went over my first line yesterday.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
What's the play?

Speaker 6 (28:41):
Romeo and Juliet?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Are you Juliet?

Speaker 6 (28:44):
I'm not, but my first scene I'm hitting on Juliet.
My first line is, baby, you must be a broom
because you just swept me off my feet.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
So I was practicing my uh you know, I was
workshopping different voices.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Just what's your character?

Speaker 6 (28:58):
I'm Paris in the final scene. I know I'm not prepared.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Let's just say that.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Well, good luck is it with the children's It's for charity,
so I will get prepared. I'm not going to let
the children down, Okay, but I'm not quite there. Where
is this if people want to go in an opera house,
excuse me, les and children's theater across from the opera
house A good deal?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
All right? Who's up next Wednesday? Jerry? Go ahead?

Speaker 10 (29:24):
Matt, yes, any man? Yeah, I was just wondering. John
Haughty was on Fine Ball about two or three weeks ago,
and they had an interesting conversation about stoops and I
guess Halty is close to John somer All, and he
was saying that, uh, somemer Aw's the top of the
list of law schools this year, and he was shocked
that he didn't take a major job last year and

(29:46):
that he's probably gonna take one this year, and that
he felt like that there would be a lot of
pressure on this Barnhart to make a movie because the
job that some are all covids is Kentucky and really
wants to come here. And if there'll be a lo.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
We've had this conversation for two or three years, right
about some raw. I mean, this is you know the
I know how Mitch Barnhart works.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
He is going to make the decision about Mark Stoops
pro or con about Mark Stoops.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
It will not be to get John Somemraw.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
And when you talk and when fine Baum and other
people talk about boosters, you know, at Auburn and Alabama
and some of those schools, there's a group of rich
people who really pressure the school.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
We have one booster.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
That has the kind of impact to do that, and
everybody knows who it is, and he loves Mark Stoops.
So I don't I mean, fine Baum can say whatever
he wants. Fine Baum doesn't know about what happens here.
So I don't think. I'm not saying Stoops is like safe.
But it will have nothing to do with John Somemraw.

(30:56):
Whatever they decide to do one day.

Speaker 10 (31:00):
Well, it's just the points that talkers making. I you know,
I actually I don't know he was in there there,
but he was saying that there would be an enormous
amount of pressure. But from who do something? But from
who at the end, from fans and boosters.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
There are no boosters that have any ability to do
anything like that except one, and he loves Mark Stoops.
As far as fans, yeah, I mean fans. If we
have another bad year, fans are going to make it awful.
But let me and I appreciate the call. Let's go
to when John cali Perry left. Most of the fan
base when John Caliperi left, wanted him gone, right, true.

(31:38):
I would say the boosters that matter didn't even particularly
like Cal.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Did Mitch let him go? No, they've held hands on TV.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
No, they went on television and he backed and then
Cal left. Mitch didn't even like Cal. He likes Stoops.
So I mean, you know, think about how we didn't
let Cal go, And there were many more reasons to.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Let Cal go.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
The administration didn't like him, the basketball office at the
end didn't like him, the fans didn't like him. They
were getting no denial money, and yet they were gonna
keep him. Yes, So the idea that there's gonna be
all this pressure to fire Stoops, I think is incorrect.
If Stoops leaves at the end of this year, it

(32:29):
will be because the situation is such he just can't
do it anymore, which is kind of what happened with Cal.
But Mitch doesn't fire people based.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
On booster pressure. Would you agree with that? Totally agree
with that. Yep.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
You know I always felt like Cal stayed maybe a
year or two too long. I hope we don't get
to that point with coach Stoops. You know, we've struggled
the last couple of years, and I hope we don't
get to that point. When we look back five years now,
I said, man, he also stayed one or two years
too long.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Well, if he's here five years, then he better have
had some winnings.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't think he could stay that long. This is good.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
You know, before the Reed Shepherd year drew you and
I said this will be the year that decides Col's future,
and when they lost to Oakland, as far as it
was for the fans, it was over.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
This is the year for Stoops. It is this is
the year. He can't have another terrible year.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Now.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I don't know what good is good? Could even be
five and seven and your competitive in every game. But
he cannot have the year he had last year, or
the fans will be done. I mean they just will.
You know, now what Mitch does is different, but the
fans will be done now.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Before Col's last year, I sudden July. I don't know
that this at the end, but I'm gonna be watching
each game like this is the last ride. And part
of that was him having DJ. It just kind of
would have been a great time if that had a
good year to walk away.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
But I'm kind of.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Going into next football season not knowing it's the last year,
but I'm gonna be taking it in like it could
be the last one.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
But the difference between us and a lot of SEC schools,
we don't have this cabal of boosters that decide things.
Our administration doesn't allow that. We do have one booster
that has a very important voice, but he's not the
kind of dude that fires people. No, he's not not.
He's a very loyal guy. So I just don't think
that will be uh the issue. Hey, bourbon lovers, just

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Speaker 2 (35:00):
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,
one person writes Matt, this is ask Anything Wednesday. Yes,
do you think when Rick Patino retires he could come
back and have a role at Kentucky in some sort
of capacity?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Good question. What do you think not a coach but
like something in the deministration or.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
Yes, I think it's a I would never have said this,
maybe even a year and a half ago, but yes,
I think someday down the road I can see that happening.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
I think we're heading that way as long as Pope
still run on the show. I mean the fact that
Rick was at Big Blue Madness immediately when Pope got here,
tells him he's already trying to get through that.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Door, might do it.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
It's Saint John's. I mean they they're gonna be preseason
top ten. I mean, he's the king of New York
right now, like he's got all this money coming in.
It might be that he's just like mister Saint John's
for now.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
I can tell you one place. He's not gonna be
invited back to Louisville. Louisville, but yeah, you start playing
each other. Saint John's and.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Louisville scheduled the game while you were away. Louisville and
Saint John's. Where might be a home, a home he's
gonna go to look it up. Yeah, wow, he scheduled
a game. I think he's gonna move to a horse
farm outside Lexington, because you got Richard just right up
the road in Cincinnati. He's got his.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
Job all to play at Louisville.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I wonder what the reaction will be for him there,
you know, let me look that up.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
It was that interesting.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's home and home home.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Wow, that first game at Madison Square Gardens. Second will
be played in Louisville.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
So I guess his hope is that by that second
year people are not as mad at him and so, no.

Speaker 7 (36:30):
That's not going to happen. That'll be their biggest crowd
of the day, and they'll be there biggest crowd of
the year. They'll be there just to boo him.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, that's interesting. I had no idea.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Who's up next, Amanda, Amanda, go ahead, Amanda.

Speaker 12 (36:42):
Hello, Hi, Hi, this is a perfect time because you
were hating on pickleball for the bathroom picking you all off.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Then, yes, I hate pickleball. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (36:52):
I just want to have to ask you, as somebody
that loves walking and hates traffic and hates pickleball virtual reac,
what did you think about the sixty five million dollar
plan for this three story pickleball, tennis and virtual reality
center in the middle of the Joe Creasan Park not
far from your house at Sellarman like in the wildlife reserve.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah. See, I don't really know a lot about it.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Somebody wrote me about it last night and said I
should look into it, so I don't want to speak on.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
It without knowing about it.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
But I guess they're putting a pickleball facility in the
middle of a park. One of the great things about
Louisville is it's parks, Like they have an amazing.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Array of parks.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
So my initial reaction is to hate it. But yeah,
but to be fair, I don't know anything about it,
so I can't. I don't think it would be right
for me to take a stance, so I need to
see it. Well.

Speaker 12 (37:46):
I don't know if it's Hooper Settle, but apparently the
coach there at Bellerman for Tennis is really wanting this
to be built to their campus and his dad is
on the board.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, I mean I don't want to I don't want
to get if you don't know that, I don't want
to get into.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Like so, yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
I appreciate the call, but I but I know that's
a big controversial thing.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
They're putting this pickleball.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
In general, if you start the sentence with they're putting
this pickleball, I'm against it. And then if you put
it in the middle of a park, that kind of
makes me, you know.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
Would you rather live by a dog park? Or a pickleball.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
I have to hear that stupid sound at my house
then I personally will go impeach my friend Kraig.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
We don't I don't know. The may or may not
even have anything to do with it.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
I have no idea that Exton built that indoor pickleball
facility out there by Cayumet Farm right off New Circle.
Do people go, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
Country boys opening one by me. I'm gonna live the one.
I mean country boys golf simulators, pickleball and country boy
tap room. And I already asked for a bedroom in
there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I like d H, but why is he getting into this?

Speaker 6 (38:57):
Just jump in, Just do it, man like he just
just do it.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Come on, d H. Who's up next?

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Let's go to Caleb.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Caleb, go ahead, Caleb.

Speaker 13 (39:07):
Hey, guys, good morning.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Hey.

Speaker 13 (39:09):
I just wanted to say they tell you to never
meet your heroes, but Drew, I met you out front
of the Tyler Child's concert over the weekend, and uh,
I was the guy that threw up the heart symbol
with my hands and you were gracious enough to stick
your hand out and shake it. But I haven't heard
the end of it from my wife even inself today.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
That don't be I was running back, but I think
I had a beer. In the other hand, I didn't
want to half heart.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Don't feel embarrassed.

Speaker 13 (39:37):
Look it's good she's embarrassed. And I said, I listened
to these guys every day for two and a half years,
and do you feel like family to me? So I
was just wondering, if it's asking think min today, what's
the proper thing to do if we meet you guys
the heart?

Speaker 2 (39:51):
What you want?

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I appreciate the call for a bowl, but it's up
to you.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Here's that's a very good question. The key when we
meet with the key when you meet people, and this
isn't just about us, This is about anybody you meet
that you like.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
The key is be kind, be nice. I will.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
I love to have a quick initial conversation, but like
be quick, especially if there's a lot of people, right,
if there's a lot of people. Now, if it's just
you're here in the restaurant, I love to talk to people,
but like if you're at that concert. Here's a good question.
Amongst the five of us, let's throw Mario and billion
who is the nicest to meet? Who's the worst to meet.

(40:34):
I'll give you the definitive ranking. Mario's the nicest to meet.
Mario will literally stand with you for an hour.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
He'll take your phone number and call you the next
day to follow up.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
No, Mario has multiple phone numbers from people he's just
met here that he just talks to.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I think Ryan is second. Ryan will be over.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
The top nice, especially if they're young. He does the
handshake move where he doesn't let go and he just
keeps shaking her arm.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Drew is third.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Drew will uh, you know, Drew's busy, but he'll still
be like, hey, I'm Drew, good to see you.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
I'm fourth because I love to meet everybody, but then
like I want to get away after a little bit.
Shannon is fifth because Shannon doesn't like people.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
That's not Drew.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Ask anybody who's ever met me outside of OVW. They
would tell you I was very nice to them.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
They would, but you also get the heck away within seconds.
And then Billy I just sti't think anybody wants to
meet Billy.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Now.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
Billy though, but Billy.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Is amazingly when he meets someone, he's just as blunt
as if you're his friend, Like he'll look at somebody
and be like, you don't smell.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Good's confluity to have, honest it is.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
So that's how I would rank them. I would go Mario, Ryan, Drew, Me,
Shannon Billy.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
I just want to say that guy's wife, you don't
know what we have going on. Me and your husband.
We have a little heart thing going on. And I'm
sorry if you were embarrassed, but let.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
Us be us.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Do you like that ranking? Do you think that's a
fair rank?

Speaker 7 (42:05):
I actually, and I'm being dead sincere, I think all
of us do a really good job meeting people, talking
to people. You do a good job after the show.
Like you said, come to the restaurant. You go to
like almost every table to say hey, thanks for coming in,
appreciate you stopping by.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Yeah, I think that's probably a lot. All right, So
when we come back, I have a draft that we're doing.
Oh the four of us. I need you all to
get your minds. Okay, this is gonna be one that's important.
We'll take a break very back. It's KSR